Australia v India, 2nd Test, Sydney, 4th day January 6, 2012

'This phase will make team stronger' - Dhoni

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MS Dhoni believes that this challenging period, during which India have slumped to six straight loss in away Tests, will help him and the team as a whole build character. "In sport you are not destined to only win," he said when asked of how difficult it has been to cope with the trough, especially following his early success as captain. "You'll lose at times. You will face difficult times. That improves you as an individual, and as a skipper.

"If everything comes easily to you, then you don't really appreciate the kind of hard work that goes into it [winning]. This is a phase where I think the team will get stronger. Of course it won't reflect in the result right now, but overall it will really help us know [recognise] the importance of winning and what needs to be done to keep the winning phase going."

There is nothing to hide behind now. India came to Australia with fit players, the best 17 available to do the job - Praveen Kumar's absence being an exception - and had time to acclimatise, but they have lost the first two Tests. They competed for three days in the first Test, but were always behind in the game after the first session in Sydney. Dhoni reiterated the obvious fact that both the batting and bowling departments had failed.

"If you see the last two series, including this one in Australia, we didn't score enough," he said. "We didn't put enough runs on the board. Of course, to win Tests taking 20 wickets is very important but also we need to give that cushion of extra runs on the board, so that the bowlers can plan the opposition out.

"It is a bit of a worry, but the good thing is we saw the batsmen score runs in the second innings. Of course it was not good enough to save the Test, but we have seen in the last couple of Tests, everybody has scored at least a fifty. That gives us an indication that we need to convert those [starts] into big innings."

It needs mention here that four of those fifties came in Sydney when pitch had flattened out, and when the bowlers' intensity was obviously down since they had a 468-run lead behind them. If anything was going to save India, it was big hundreds. The big hundreds were all scored by Australia, which has brought Dhoni's captaincy under immense scrutiny. Especially criticised is his almost formulaic spreading of the field in Melbourne, at the first sight of the Australian lower order. Dhoni spoke about it.

"Usually, when you come out of India, there comes a phase where the ball doesn't do much, and there is not much for the bowlers," he said. "That's the time where we need to improve. Not only as a skipper for me, [but] the plans need to be executed really well. Because you have a few fields in mind, if the bowlers stick to that plan and execute well, it looks very good. But once it starts going wrong, it looks very difficult to manage.

"What could have been done is, bowl a line where you attack a particular target, a particular area, so we force the batsman to go through the covers, and invite him for a drive. If he commits a mistake we will have slip fielders to catch him. If it starts to reverse then change the plan a bit, look to have fielders on the leg side, try to bowl as straight as possible. It's about execution also. With more exposure that's what the bowlers must have learned in the last couple of games. We have looked to attack a bit more with Zaheer [Khan] because he is our main wicket-taking bowler. We don't want him to look to contain any batsmen as such."

When told that Zaheer's economy-rate was actually the best among the Indian bowlers, and asked if attacking and taking wickets wasn't the best way to slow the runs down, he said: "You have to back it up with good bowling. He [Zaheer] is someone who bowls very well according to the field. It's something that can't go just one way. You can't have four or five slips throughout the Test match. Ultimately you have to score what the opposition scores too. It's a combination of both. You have to come up with strategies, what works the best. It's a balance between getting wickets and what kind of partnership the opposition is getting. If they score very quickly you may have an attacking field but it will be difficult to get the amount of runs they score."

It's all stacked up against Dhoni the captain, Dhoni the batsman, and his team. The series can't be won. The Border-Gavaskar trophy can technically be retained. Looking at how things stand now, though, avoiding a whitewash will be an achievement. Dhoni said the team needed to take some time off cricket. On that account the team has done well to lose inside four days, giving them extra time away from the cricket.

"They [the players] have got a fair amount of exposure to the Australian bowlers in the last two Test matches," Dhoni said. "What is important is to switch off from the game. You don't really want to overdo it. There may be a few individuals who want to spend a bit more time on the field, but I feel it's always important to switch off from the cricket. That really helps you de-stress a bit, and come back in a positive state of mind. I feel that rather than spending more and more time practising, what we need to do is spend some time off the field with some recreational activity and get some time off cricket."

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 9, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    There will be no change for the next match, it will the be the same result as per the last 6 test matches overseas. Dhoni will come out again saying we will get stronger from these defeats. They will get stronger when they get back home on dusty tracks where you don't need to be that good take wickets just land one in the dust.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 9, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    @ Nampally - in fairness to Sehwag, he did haveowl 25 overs (roughly) & like Kohli, was probably one of the better bowlers! Kohli should bat @ #8 & share the new ball with Zaheer!

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 9, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    Dhoni, the ODI cum T20 Captain has failed this team bigtime. How would you explain Boucher, Fidel, Swann+Broad+Bresnan and now Pattinson+Hilfenhaus (Aussies escaping twice at MCG and once at SCG) getting away from hopeless losing situations? Of course I'll give credit to the opponents. BUT I want to look at Dhoni as well while appreciating the opposition. Please don't listen to this bloke Mahendra Singh Dhoni. India has been winning despite him. India reached no.1 courtesy sterling performances of our batsmen though the opposition managed to escape, courtesy Dhoni's atrocious captaincy. Now that the batsmen have struggled in England and Australia to put up huge scores, the passages of play when the opposition escaped are turning out into disheartening opposition wins or horrible draws. Dear BCCI, see the obvious pattern and drop this substandard player cum ODIish+T20ish Captain. Don't persist with him anymore lest Oxford Dictionary might include Fool as the new synonym for Cool.

  • POSTED BY StatisticsRocks on | January 8, 2012, 20:41 GMT

    And how exactly r we going to get stronger Mr Dhoni. By being less aggressive, thanks to ur stpd captiancy. U don't even hv the technique to play a full delivery like u did at SCG (c&b by Hilffy). Any way u r losing why dont show us some fight and play aggressive.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 8, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    Drop this excuses manufacturer Dhoni and make Dravid or VVS the Captain from Perth. Fly in Dinesh Karthik. Bring in Rohit for Kohli. Kohli shouldn't have been there in the first place.

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | January 8, 2012, 19:30 GMT

    Based on majority of comment here, following need to be dropped: Gambhir, Sehwag, RD, VVS, Dhoni,Kohli. So who is going to captain the side? Poor fielders are barred for that position. So the only remaining is SRT (though not a great fielder he gives his full effort). He must take up the leadership for the future of India.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 8, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Drop this excuses manufacturer Dhoni and make Dravid or VVS the Captain from Perth. Fly in Dinesh Karthik. Bring in Rohit for Kohli. Kohli shouldn't have been there in the first place.

  • POSTED BY kanthreddy on | January 8, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    I dont think Dhoni will be selected even into Bangladesh Test eleven with his batting skills. His conservative captaincy also best suited for ODI'S where he can contain runs and wait for wickets to fall. A test captain should be more aggresive and innovative. If we need to look at future, I think one of the three stalwarts(Most probably Laxman) should be replaced with Rohit Sharma for the rest of 2 matches. Kohli should be given more chances if selectors think he is for future. Coming to batting performances, sachin looks best until he reaches 70 or 80(most probably thinking about 100). Dravid is always a class act, I think he will play well in the rest of the matches. The main culprit according to me is Sehwag who throws his wicket and exposes the middle order. I agree that he plays his natural game but should not be at the expense of teams chances to post a good score. He should atleast play for first 10 - 15 overs just to get feel of the pitch.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | January 8, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    BCCI/Selectors - we need tall, young batsman for overseas games. Rohit Sharma is the best we got at the moment.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | January 8, 2012, 8:27 GMT

    @tram - Dravid is quite capable of solving his problem. Dhoni is the keeper and captain - cannot change midway thru series. Kohli has class and needs to convert. Rohit should come in. We need an extra bowler - who? Fly Sreesanth in? Retain Shewag - but give him a lecture. Him and Gambhir are poor and thick headed. VVS got out to a gem ball this last innings. We need extra bowler definetly.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 9, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    There will be no change for the next match, it will the be the same result as per the last 6 test matches overseas. Dhoni will come out again saying we will get stronger from these defeats. They will get stronger when they get back home on dusty tracks where you don't need to be that good take wickets just land one in the dust.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 9, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    @ Nampally - in fairness to Sehwag, he did haveowl 25 overs (roughly) & like Kohli, was probably one of the better bowlers! Kohli should bat @ #8 & share the new ball with Zaheer!

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 9, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    Dhoni, the ODI cum T20 Captain has failed this team bigtime. How would you explain Boucher, Fidel, Swann+Broad+Bresnan and now Pattinson+Hilfenhaus (Aussies escaping twice at MCG and once at SCG) getting away from hopeless losing situations? Of course I'll give credit to the opponents. BUT I want to look at Dhoni as well while appreciating the opposition. Please don't listen to this bloke Mahendra Singh Dhoni. India has been winning despite him. India reached no.1 courtesy sterling performances of our batsmen though the opposition managed to escape, courtesy Dhoni's atrocious captaincy. Now that the batsmen have struggled in England and Australia to put up huge scores, the passages of play when the opposition escaped are turning out into disheartening opposition wins or horrible draws. Dear BCCI, see the obvious pattern and drop this substandard player cum ODIish+T20ish Captain. Don't persist with him anymore lest Oxford Dictionary might include Fool as the new synonym for Cool.

  • POSTED BY StatisticsRocks on | January 8, 2012, 20:41 GMT

    And how exactly r we going to get stronger Mr Dhoni. By being less aggressive, thanks to ur stpd captiancy. U don't even hv the technique to play a full delivery like u did at SCG (c&b by Hilffy). Any way u r losing why dont show us some fight and play aggressive.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 8, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    Drop this excuses manufacturer Dhoni and make Dravid or VVS the Captain from Perth. Fly in Dinesh Karthik. Bring in Rohit for Kohli. Kohli shouldn't have been there in the first place.

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | January 8, 2012, 19:30 GMT

    Based on majority of comment here, following need to be dropped: Gambhir, Sehwag, RD, VVS, Dhoni,Kohli. So who is going to captain the side? Poor fielders are barred for that position. So the only remaining is SRT (though not a great fielder he gives his full effort). He must take up the leadership for the future of India.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | January 8, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Drop this excuses manufacturer Dhoni and make Dravid or VVS the Captain from Perth. Fly in Dinesh Karthik. Bring in Rohit for Kohli. Kohli shouldn't have been there in the first place.

  • POSTED BY kanthreddy on | January 8, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    I dont think Dhoni will be selected even into Bangladesh Test eleven with his batting skills. His conservative captaincy also best suited for ODI'S where he can contain runs and wait for wickets to fall. A test captain should be more aggresive and innovative. If we need to look at future, I think one of the three stalwarts(Most probably Laxman) should be replaced with Rohit Sharma for the rest of 2 matches. Kohli should be given more chances if selectors think he is for future. Coming to batting performances, sachin looks best until he reaches 70 or 80(most probably thinking about 100). Dravid is always a class act, I think he will play well in the rest of the matches. The main culprit according to me is Sehwag who throws his wicket and exposes the middle order. I agree that he plays his natural game but should not be at the expense of teams chances to post a good score. He should atleast play for first 10 - 15 overs just to get feel of the pitch.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | January 8, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    BCCI/Selectors - we need tall, young batsman for overseas games. Rohit Sharma is the best we got at the moment.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | January 8, 2012, 8:27 GMT

    @tram - Dravid is quite capable of solving his problem. Dhoni is the keeper and captain - cannot change midway thru series. Kohli has class and needs to convert. Rohit should come in. We need an extra bowler - who? Fly Sreesanth in? Retain Shewag - but give him a lecture. Him and Gambhir are poor and thick headed. VVS got out to a gem ball this last innings. We need extra bowler definetly.

  • POSTED BY inblue on | January 8, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    THIS IS WHAT DHONI SHOULD SAY from now on in the press meet.......... This is not right and absolute cheating, we help their new bowlers and their come back bowlers bowl us out every time and become famous, we help their struggling batsman get back into form and make centuries and even triple centuries if possible. But they don't help us making a draw or at least make that century we all are waiting for. And now they are talking of taking 4 fast bowlers in the next test match,this is not fair at all and we will not take this lightly any more and ask BCCI to organize 2 IPL's a year from now and forget about away test matches................

  • POSTED BY Predic on | January 8, 2012, 7:59 GMT

    Dhoni please dont lose matches and say it helps for individuals. Tell us how many matches you want to lose to become perfect. Half of the players were already played plenty of times in aus against aussies.

    Learn from successful australians. Learn to bat well, learn to bowl well, learn to field well and learn to speak well(at press conferences) this is enough to learn. You need not to lose matches and learn the mistakes from them.

    Learn how aussies will fight back if they lose any test match. Recollect how they have played against SA.

    Sehwag please play with disicipline for atleast 5 overs. Please dont try to hit boundary for every ball, if you are so much clever then open your eyes and do good footwork and then hit four asif you are hitting 4balls against single attempt.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    If any of the top order batsman play aggressive then he can pass the Positive energy to other players. But unfortunate all are playing a negative game and all players are under pressure. I still cant imagine why sachin also playing of a strike rate like 40. Wht will happen in PERTH??. Dear Sehwag "Uper Cut" ka time Hogaya. Can we pass 200??

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | January 8, 2012, 3:13 GMT

    Based on majority of comment here, following need to be dropped: Gambhir, Sehwag, RD, VVS, Dhoni,Kohli. So who is going to captain the side? Poor fielders are barred for that position. So the only remaining is SRT (though not a great fielder he gives his full effort). He must take up the leadership for the future of India.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 8, 2012, 2:04 GMT

    I find it really a hard pill to swallow that the captain of the team acknowledging the fact that he had no plans for the bowlers because the team did not have enough runs on the board! "If the bowlers had more runs then we could have tried different plans", this is a joke right? I mean a opposition player scores 329 not out and two other struggling players score hundreds, I thought it would have meant that whatever plans Dhoni had were not working and it was time to change things. This Indian team does not need a coach but they need a strategic person who tells the captain the strategy to win games, someone like Andy Flower perhaps. India is great in IT and maybe they need to explore the opposition's strengths and weaknesses using the technology as our captain and senior players are not able to do it themselves.

  • POSTED BY on | January 8, 2012, 1:31 GMT

    Dhoni please save your explanations and excuses for someone that cares .obviously when you packed your stuff you also packed a bag full of excuses and explanations that you were going to need

  • POSTED BY manwar12 on | January 7, 2012, 20:22 GMT

    India Lost second successive match in 3 and 1/2 day including an innings defeat. They lost 4-0 to England. Did they play better than Bangladesh? Then why India is so arrogant and refuse to invite Bangladesh to play against India in India? Indian supporter should go back to history and look at India's performance even 20 years after they got test status.

    I think it is time for India to play with Bangladesh. They will be lucky and greatfull that they can face the world's No 1 allrounder.

  • POSTED BY mta_imran1985 on | January 7, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    dohni doesn't understand wat is test cricket untill include class player ROHIT SHARMA. he is genienun test batsman, but still dohni prefer to giving chance to play Virat Kohli, he is pure oneday specialist. he can't score more than Ashwin i dont knw why nt giving chance to play clasicc ROHIT.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | January 7, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    The real downer for the Indian team was when the Aussies scored 620 runs for the loss of just one wicket. Ashwin's plea for Aussie declaration showed the total resignation of the team. Matters got worse when Sehwag in his usual carefree manner threw away his wicket. Aussies went there with grit & determination not to get out under any circumstances, which they did brilliantly. Indian bats are suicidal. All Aussies had to do was to wait for the Indian batsmen to make the mistakes - as simple as that. It was differing mentality of the 2 sides that decided the Winner. Dhoni might shout at the top of his voice that "this is the best team he has". Whole world knows its deficiency except Srikant & Dhoni.India cannot win with this bowling. They need another wicket taking bowler to prevent a rout of 600 runs for 1 Wkt. bowling!.Various alternatives: Allrounders Pathan,Jadeja or Dinda the seamer.Cost of flying these 3 guys is worth saving Indian dignity. Dhoni needs to learn this simple truth.

  • POSTED BY SunnyD on | January 7, 2012, 16:53 GMT

    Sure, they will come back stronger when in India

  • POSTED BY Dronaa on | January 7, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    Someone should tell MSD that such statements do not help.Especially if the captain gets a brain freeze for 6 overseas tests in on the trot. And how much has been his own precious contribution to this debacle. As if not scoring runs was not enough, uninspiriing captaincy and tactics have led to India losing atleast 3 tests they could have won or at the least drawn. Lower order fightbacks are good , but if they happen with suxh consistency against a team not long ago ranked as number 1, then it tells a lot about the captains mindset.Look at the scores racked up over the last 12 innings by opposiing batsmen - Pietersen 202, Bell 159, Cook 294, Clarke 329* ( lowewr middle order -> Broad 77, Trott 100+, Broad 71*, Pattinson 37, Siddle 41). And what was the Indian captain doing all this while ? Getting stronger I guess. If it hadnt been for Dravid 146 India would not have hit 300 even once in England. And if not for Ashwin and Zaheer & Ishant 300 would have been tough this time as well.

  • POSTED BY Aussasinator on | January 7, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    Although I'm convinced Australia will win it 4-0, a better fight does await in Perth. Nobody likes one sided matches, even the winning country's crowd.

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    INDIAN TEAM will come hard in Perth for sure.Team might win or lose. But there wont go down as they did in first two test. We will always support you team INDIA.

  • POSTED BY KarachiKid on | January 7, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Indian fans fail to see that IPL is actually impacting Indian cricket negatively. The successes were because of these 4 pillars in the batting order, lone pillar in bowling (ZAK) and your captain. With the pillar ageing, its obvvious IPL trained batsmen/bowlers are in the limilight. These players would not be able to play quality cricket outside Sub Continent.

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    sehwag is the biggest liability india is facing currently..he shud be thrown out of the side.....

  • POSTED BY OzHarris on | January 7, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    @Ramesh Srinivasan ::: Perfect# Agree with you mate.... BCCI makes flat tracks for averages and making cricket as batsman game , with lame IPL like a cherry on top. Dont worry guys.. Bangladesh tour of india followed by zimbabwe tour...we ll get back our averages and ranking. TEAM INDIA

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    well, we were humiliated loss. millions of fans very too frustrate about indian team performance. though ms dhoni so far did n't take any learning lesson from the past experience. he is very adament. he doesn't have sense to use the right player in right time. first of all read about the pitch condition. then u select whether need to take batting or bowling. in the SCG you won the toss instead of select bowl first you choos the bat. that was very wrong decision. then again bring the virat kholi. please give chance for rohit. and another one big mistake he didn't give chance for to play in australia irfan pathan. if u had given chances for those players must have changed result and those scenarios.

  • POSTED BY srireddy43 on | January 7, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    Dhoni is playing in the Eleven just because he is captain. For me he doesnt even get selected in the bangladesh test team. Now that we cannot win this series, India can try few things like removing one senior player(probably Laxman) and try both Rohit and Kohli(I guess he needs more time). Sehwag can play his naturall game but only after he plays minimun of 10 overs just to get touch and feel......Bring ashwin ahead of Dhoni just to tell him where he stands in the test team as a batsman. May be try new bowler in place of Ishant sharma.

  • POSTED BY charlie2921972 on | January 7, 2012, 9:44 GMT

    My eleven for Perth Test are 1)Sehwag/Gambhir 2)Dravid 3)Rohit 4)Sachin 5)Laxman/Rahane 6)Ashwin 7)Dhoni/Saha 8)Zaheer 9)Mithun 10)Umesh 11)Ojha

  • POSTED BY drnaveed on | January 7, 2012, 9:41 GMT

    dont worry indian cricket team, BCCI has has planned and has announced schedule for IPL,if you didn't score or took wickets in the current series in australia ,no problem , score runs and take wickets in that tournament, soon all the indian fans will forget your performance abroad yet again, as they have after the england series in england.

  • POSTED BY drnaveed on | January 7, 2012, 9:29 GMT

    dont worry indian cricket team, BCCI has has planned and has announced schedule for IPL,if you didn't score or took wickets in the current series in australia ,no problem , score runs and take wickets in that tournament, soon all the indian fans will forget your performance abroad yet again, as they have after the england series in england.

  • POSTED BY hmmmmm... on | January 7, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    I find Dhoni's last comment about switching off and not needing practice the funniest - if you cared about winning, the only way you can get stronger is through practice and application and not spending time making more TV commercials! I really hope someone in the Indian squad ignores him and takes some time out of their busy life to focus on improving their game for teh next test so it at least makes becomes a contest - as much as would like to see Australia complete a whitewash. The problem with Dhoni as captain is that his time out of cricket starts as soon as his team isn't winning. Once Ponting and Clarke were set in Sydney he completely switched off and stopped attacking hoping a wicket would be gifted to him...his team followed his lead and used the two days in the field for sunbathing rather than bowling and fielding.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 7, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    This is what hurts me the most as an Indian supporter that India refuses to make changes and learn from their mistakes. They carry on a cricket field without any planning it seems. They are not very good readers of the situation that is when to attack or defend. In the Sydney test when Clarke brought himself on before the new ball both Tendulkar and Laxman shut the shop instead of seeing this opportunity to score 50-60 runs before the new ball was taken. What happened, Tendulkar lost his wicket to a straight ball and Laxman went against a good new ball. Nothing gained. Why would Dhoni bat first on a green pitch when his side has been struggling with batting overseas for a long time now? Too many tactical errors.

  • POSTED BY mlkt on | January 7, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    Replacing kohli with rohit seems logical since kohli has not done anything and has not looked comfortable.....but dont expect that things will get miraculously alright and rohit will win the next test 4 us....the team has to take collective responsibilty and show some competitive spirit......in melbourne they first let the aus tailenders to make so many runs..and then blew away the advantage while batting in a good position.....while in sydney they wre down and out from the first session itself......showed no fight whatsoever..........how can u get stronger when u r not even showing some fight!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 7:28 GMT

    Its easy to say drop the seniors and bring in the new blood ! Indian fans are fickle minded ! The same people criticizing Dhoni will praise him to the high heavens if Indians manage a draw or a win this seris or worse, Sachin scores his much awaited 100th 100 ! I say this as an ardent Indian fan ! The time of transition is near, but it has to be gradual or whatever work Ganguly and Dhoni achieved over the last decade will be washed away !!

  • POSTED BY DC75 on | January 7, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    Batman said - you die young as a hero or live long enough to become a villain (or something on those lines). I think time has come for the big three to retire, I am sorry to say that they have already become villains.

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    Dhoni is right this phase will make team stronger and these matches are good practice indian players for bigger events like IPL & Champion league

  • POSTED BY riteshvora on | January 7, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    i think the team is not playing as a unit , every one is concerned for their personal records... coz its the last series for sachin, zahir, vvs,rahul .. its better they do sightseeing rather then play serious cricket.

    RIP INDIAN CRICKET

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 5:31 GMT

    Remove Kohli, Sehwag. Send Ashwin to open with Gambhir. Play an extra bowler. I have never seen Dhoni playing a Captain's Innings in any tour outside India. He should be sacked of Test Captaincy. :-/

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 5:31 GMT

    Remove Kohli, Sehwag. Send Ashwin to open with Gambhir. Play an extra bowler. I have never seen Dhoni playing a Captain's Innings in any tour outside India. He should be sacked of Test Captaincy. :-/

  • POSTED BY prasadg79 on | January 7, 2012, 5:30 GMT

    MS Dhoni ... Well said ...Don't worry, I agree with you that as a team, you people gave 100% in the last six overseas test matches and ended up on the loosing side. I wont be surprised, if this amazing streak does not end till this test series atleast. I was a hug fan of yours in the past, but now, i get a feeling that you are happy with whatever the results we end up with, as a national team. Please get ready and be fit for the biggest event of the year ... Your favorite IPL tournament and forget about this tour ... It is anyways lost, even before it started. Thank you again Mr.Dhoni ... for your speech !!!

  • POSTED BY vmanbalaji on | January 7, 2012, 5:29 GMT

    Could not see the result would have been any better had Australia batted first in Sydney, either by winning the toss for it would have been unlikely that India would have put them into bat, looking into thin bowling resource. Had India scored runs chasing, Clarke would himself had been critisized for electing to hat at Melbourne.

    While it is hard to think that Dhoni would have gone into the test match in abroad with 5 bowlers, when at home, test matches are played with 4 bowlers knowing fully well of flat tracks and it is imperative to take 20 wkts to win a test match.

    What is intriguing is that the bowling line-up without experience of Sreesanth (who can take wickets in flat tracks like in Nagpur against SL, match winning 5 for), and Munaf who can be tight and maintain line and length and hold one end up, they all can bowl with intensity for 20/25 overs per day, it is clear the selectors have erred in picking bowling line-up.

  • POSTED BY MumbaiKarnatakaFan on | January 7, 2012, 5:24 GMT

    Drop 1 from Laxman / Dravid, Drop Gambhir, 1 from Sharma / Zaheer for Perth and bring in Rohit, Ajinkya, and 1 from Mithun / Vinay depending on who is dropped.

    Sehwag, Ajinkya, Virat, Tendulkar, Rohit, Laxman / Dravid, Dhoni, Umesh, Ashwin, (Vinay,Ishant) or (Zaheer,Mithun)

    Firstly, the new guys will bring in more energy (less negativity) and at this moment that is more important than talent.

    Secondly, persist with Virat, Umesh even though they haven't been successful, (although Umesh to a degree did quite well in Melbourne) because these guys will be our future and its a great opportunity to get some valuable learning of Australian conditions.

    I would also like to see Dravid and Laxman announce their retirements during or after this series. Dravid had an exceptional last year and there is no better time to go on a high. I am the greatest fan of Dravid. However each time he comes to the crease this series I can see he is struggling. Australians have bowled very well and to a plan.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 7, 2012, 4:40 GMT

    Australia had the best of conditions, batted when the pitch was at his best, India bowled in hot conditions, Australia bowled in cool overcast conditions. Dhoni should have never batted frist consiedering how bad India has been batting of late. A huge tactitcal error by him again.

  • POSTED BY Imran_Ahmed_Mani on | January 7, 2012, 4:36 GMT

    MS why dnt you take rest from IPL???????? Infact indians want to take rest from the test cricket they just love money earned from IPL.

  • POSTED BY Deepak_Toronto on | January 7, 2012, 3:22 GMT

    I JUST CHECKED THE INDIAN TEST SQUAD. I AGREE WITH DHONI ,INDIA CAN STILL WIN. WE NEED TH FOLLOWING CHANGES: 1. SEWAG 2. GAMBHIR 3. TENDULKAR 4. ROHIT SHARMA - CAPTAIN 5. RAHANE 6. ASHWIN 7. SAHA . ...........DHONI -RESTED 8. OJHA 9. ZAHEER 10.VARUN AARON 11 UMSEHA YADAV

    CALL IRFAN PATHAN,ROBIN UTTAHAPA,PUJARA AND JAFFER AS REPLACEMENT FOR KOHLI,LAXMAN ,DHONI AND DRAVID.

  • POSTED BY indianhistory on | January 7, 2012, 3:20 GMT

    Indians are known to be emotional. They are certainly missing the home cheering crowd plus seeing too much of a formal environment is a turn off for them.. But i think they will bounce back with a win in perth. Sachin will score his 100 in the 4th test.

    They were completely demoralised due to lack of energy from Dhoni. He has to come up with new ways to keep the team motivated.

  • POSTED BY Jaggadaaku on | January 7, 2012, 2:57 GMT

    Mr. Cold, I don't have no words for you, nor your team now. The bottom line is Dravid, Laxman, and you especially, not good for cricket. If this phase(0-2) will make team stronger, then last year, the team-India was on same phase against England, and your team couldn't win any match of the rest. Do you really think this phase really makes your team stronger. The bottom line is the captain has to be role model mostly. That is why the captain are for. If the captain won't make the runs, what the captain would expect from the other batsmen. Australian captain made 329 not out runs, and you couldn't make even 30. Sehwag shouldn't be in test team or you cannot put him on opening slot. Just use him to open when you guys want to build the foundation to win. You may not win this match, but there were much possibilities to avoid losing by innings if you, Sehwag, Dravid, and Kohli played carefully. What did you learn coming to AUS 2-3 weeks early on BCCI's expense? How to lose the match?

  • POSTED BY Jaggadaaku on | January 7, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    Mr. Cold, I don't have no words for you, nor your team now. The bottom line is Dravid, Laxman, and you especially, not good for cricket. If this phase(0-2) will make team stronger, then last year, the team-India was on same phase against England, and your team couldn't win any match of the rest. Do you really think this phase really makes your team stronger. The bottom line is the captain has to be role model mostly. That is why the captain are for. If the captain won't make the runs, what the captain would expect from the other batsmen. Australian captain made 329 not out runs, and you couldn't make even 30. Sehwag shouldn't be in test team or you cannot put him on opening slot. Just use him to open when you guys want to build the foundation to win. You may not win this match, but there were much possibilities to avoid losing by innings if you, Sehwag, Dravid, and Kohli played carefully. What did you learn coming to AUS 2-3 weeks early on BCCI's expense? How to lose the match???

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 2:31 GMT

    All say Our batting line is no.1 batting line it is not true.our batting good on only pappers.....shame on us...take some batting tips from ausi's batsman or zaheer or ashwin.. Dhoni wht r u doing u there no batting from last 4 tests r captain behave like this?alwys give only reason when we loose matches.oue big mistake we can not takes wickets in regular intervls if we tke 5 wickets thier tale enders makes 100 plus runs...1st match ends dhoni says we have focus on why we not take wickets of tale enders and this time says this phase mkes India stonger....wht a stupid coment MSD...alwys being practicle...u loose ur captancies in test i know fter tis serires

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | January 7, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    @INDIAN FANS - we are carrying too much dead wood in the current test team. SHEWAG, GAMBHIR,LAXMAN, DHONI - thats four places. Two are openers. That is not good. We can only select a team for the next game from those who are in Australia at present. Dravid could come good and would make the best captain. If we opened with the two youngsters - Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli - both are highly regarded by Ian Chappell - they are the future. Bring in Saha, Rahane and Ohja. Laxman is a slow runner

  • POSTED BY Siddhu_Roy on | January 7, 2012, 1:48 GMT

    During the last visit, they lost the first (Melbourne) & second (Sydney) tests but won the much tougher Perth test and played a decent Adelaide test. The same may happen now. Of course they fought little harder last time but there still is chance to make up for these humiliating losses. Come-on team India! Win the Perth test again. You can do it guys!

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 1:29 GMT

    If u draw nxt test u make some changes dhoni 1- Rohit come kohli go. 2-Give instruction to sehwag stay in a crease at least on session or Rahane come. 3-Oza come ashwin or sharma go. 4-Play positive not loose temperd. 5-Dhoni u should make at least 50 plus runs.

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 1:04 GMT

    Make Dravid as opener and bring Shewag to No6 or 7 . replace ohja with aswin.

  • POSTED BY Kaze on | January 7, 2012, 0:53 GMT

    India must be the strongest team on Earth given that Dohni says thrashings make them stronger, lol. If Aus whitewash them maybe India will go back to #1 .

  • POSTED BY ak0022009 on | January 7, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    where is Pragyan Ojha???? These are not Indian pitches where Ashwin can turn, this is something where only Ojha can succeed... Look at Michael Clarke's delivery to Sachin, we need Ojha. Ashwin wont be able to get any wicket. Get Ojha in and get LBW in play ... good luck team

  • POSTED BY on | January 7, 2012, 0:36 GMT

    we loosss 4-0.this is true.no onw save us.

  • POSTED BY Ms.Cricket on | January 7, 2012, 0:20 GMT

    India should give a chance to Rohit Sharma and Rahane in the next Test. On the next tour Dravid and Laxman, great as they are, will not be around while Rohit and Rahane could be. Indian fielding needs more spark. So best is to cut losses and look forward and gain experience for the future. India cannot win this series now so the best team for next Test should be Sehwag, Gambhir, Rahane, Tendulkar, Rohit, Kohli, Dhoni, Ashwin or Ojha, Zaheer, Ishant and Yadav.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 23:55 GMT

    I have more determination and guts than the entire Indian team put together. When I think of Indian comebacks or their so called determination of character I think of a squashed grape that people step on as they walk by.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    Dhoni mentioned taking time off away from Cricket. Well...thats THE LAST THING THEY SHOULD BE DOING!!! in my opinion immediately after they lost they should have all gone into the nets to practice. if I was coach or captain, I'd have them all in the nets batting and bowling,fielding. Doing drills. I'd have them up at 5am and not allow them to finish until every man had done their fair share. This philosophy about "taking time away from cricket after loosing" is a bad attitude. If you want to be CHAMPION, you have to work hard.Nothing of value comes by luck - its won by pain and sacrifice. Doesnt the Indian team know this? clearly not. They think the best answer is a trip to Sydneys opera house or a visit to the beach. Very unprofessional in my opinion. I used to be a fan of India but I cannot tolerate lazyness and a lack of determination. I question now why they even bothered getting on a plane to travel to Australia. They clearly dont care.

  • POSTED BY gooru on | January 6, 2012, 23:49 GMT

    If Ashwin has got technique why not allow him to Open.. It doesn't matter how much he scores as long as he occupies the crease for 30 overs. It is the intent that matters... Right now Indians are playing with no intent and directions and the willingness is totally absent from the team in such an important series. See Gambhir's body language after scoring 60 odd runs. He could not keep the focus as he was too tired...to play. In australia 'fitness' and 'focus' matters as the bowlers are always waiting for that one good ball, which is very different from Indian attack. Oh...my we will just employ two spinners on both ends and 'WAIT' for the wicket to fall on its own.(Just what Dhoni is doing...). Guys...We know that it is a sport...and Cricket is not a power sport definitely.... It is a delicate combination and tenacity and talent.... We know our players are good in talent but tenacity????? In any game LOSE but not SURRENDER...

  • POSTED BY gooru on | January 6, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    Mr Dhoni .... our beloved captain..., Its not about loss.... Its all about the contested fight...I dont blame you for losing.. but for the intent of the players in staying there an putting up a fight making Aussies work hard for their victory. Unfortunately we didn't show the guts to fight... We threw it in their basket.... If the pitch was so good to bat after the first day.. and God damn... every child in India knows it is all about first two sessions...and the quality of the openers in their ability to defend.... Even if we would have scored 120 runs and stayed the two sessions we would have put huge runs on the board and who knows would have wont the game. Talking about Openers... it doesn't matter how sehwag plays in sub continent pitches....he should resist the temptation to go after the outside off ball giving catch practices..

    If your natural game is not that may be he should not be picked for Australia, England and South africa.I see the intent only with Dravid and Ashwin..

  • POSTED BY Sanj747 on | January 6, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    This bloke is a joke. As a leader you can responsiblity and unfortunately Dhoni cannot. I have watched all 4 day of the tests and can see why India failed so badly There is no leadership. India simply were pathetic and failed to run up. There are issues with the captain, batting, bowling and fielding. They need more than almight intervention.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 23:27 GMT

    This explains why we won the world cup. It was home advantage - played in India!

    I still remember the three key points driven by Greg Chappel which never went well with Indians. 1. Perform or perish. Dont take your place in the team for granted. 2. Need young blood to build a second line of defence. Dont forget - we won the T20 world cup first with all young blood; and now the world cup too with all youngsters except Sachin. 3. Rotation. Rotation does not mean being "dropped". This was perceived by indian players as being left out. Greg Chappel's intention was to give sufficient time to recover to main players while giving a chance to another talent to be identified. He wanted allrounders in middle order and tried to mould Ramesh Powar and Irfan Pathan. We do not have one since Kapil.

    Guys, there is too much cricket and too much money. Understandable you dont play you dont earn. Afterall if you fail to perform - you dont do any good to your earning potential!

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    Please bring in Irfan Pathan ..put all the things aside for betterment of INDIAN Cricket, everyone know he is bowling well..

    I have one question to the selectors, suppose assume he is in very poor form but he is still better than few bowlers they are there in AUS. He is not even older to think to give chances to young guys.

    My ream question is anyone watching irfans progress..and i can give the answer as no as it is very simple he has bowled the deliveries in the recent ODI he played that he used to bowl in earlier times.

    I have seen the ball swinging like anything in the game.. Please put him in there....

    Am not getting y to take RP singh if he is not fully fit in ENG series when the fit guy like irfan is bowling well

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | January 6, 2012, 23:14 GMT

    @hiyer, I totally agree with you. Drop a batsman, Dhoni to no 6, and Irfaan to 7. 5 bowlers is a must for India.He can bat ok and would bowl into the wind in Perth where the breeze is a factor. As an Aussie though, I hope they keep the same combo.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    I was not disappointed in england tour, as even though we were losing matches i have seen the strong desire on the players that they have to perform well, like praveen, dravid, dhoni not only them but all of them but we are un done by superb pace and swing bowling by english and injuries from Indian players. I have seen each and every ball in all the tests there.

    But here it seems they lack that desire. Except bowlers and sachin ( I am not a big fan of sachin ) showed complete but considerable amount of hardwork but again undone by Aussie batsmen and having no stand of patners on other side of wicket for sachin.

  • POSTED BY avijna on | January 6, 2012, 23:04 GMT

    Why is India unable to produce a single good Fast (145 - 155) Bowler. India really needs 2 genuine quicks to win on Bouncy tracks. The fault is in the selection and encouragement. Pakistan has similar pitches to India. Yet they produce genuine fast bowlers, who do well in Bouncy tracks. The reason is simple the selectors in Pakistan will not consider anyone who bowls below 135MPH. Maybe India should start doing the same kind of selection to encourage picking genuine quicks. This may resolve some of the issues India has.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 22:55 GMT

    The media has been brain washing us for a long time. Forget about records and experience. When the team loses the whole nation loses. Its time to rethink the selection process and bring a new generation of players. Of course we will loose matches in the process but it is much better to loose with youngsters on the side then loose in the hands of much experienced players. Records and statistics don't all the time count, its consistency and techinque that matters. Bowling is weak and we should continue searching for fresh bowlers.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 22:55 GMT

    The best thing is go through the early games history how they went on the same ground even though pitch gets changed it easy to asses what can be done..

    See the luck that india have, Dhoni won the ton after long time in overseas and he opted to bat. Otherwise they would have batted the result of this match is a DRAW cause AUS would have pulled back in fourth innings unlike India.

  • POSTED BY Mandadi on | January 6, 2012, 22:46 GMT

    I was there on Day3 Sydney match, very disappointing to see body language -ve. Win or loose fighting spirit missing. There are lot of gaps in field places. I wish India will workout these and come strong next match..Guys fire up man show some fight...

  • POSTED BY bugs1960 on | January 6, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    Yes..sure the team will become stronger...probably after the 4-0 whitewash...dont see any way that can be avoided...bring rohit in instead of Kohli now..

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | January 6, 2012, 22:27 GMT

    A vacation is what this team seems to think this tour is all about. Why bother to play if the whole side doesn't care about winning.

  • POSTED BY Jaggadaaku on | January 6, 2012, 22:26 GMT

    Mr. Cold, I don't have no words for you, nor your team now. The bottom line is Dravid, Laxman, and you especially, not good for cricket. If this phase(0-2) will make team stronger, then last year, the team-India was on same phase against England, and your team couldn't win any match of the rest. Do you really think this phase really makes your team stronger. The bottom line is the captain has to be role model mostly. That is why the captain are for. If the captain won't make the runs, what the captain would expect from the other batsmen. Australian captain made 329 not out runs, and you couldn't make even 30. Sehwag shouldn't be in test team or you cannot put him on opening slot. Just use him to open when you guys want to build the foundation to win. You may not win this match, but there were much possibilities to avoid losing by innings if you, Sehwag, Dravid, and Kohli played carefully. What did you learn coming to AUS 2-3 weeks early on BCCI's expense? How to lose the match???

  • POSTED BY explorer18 on | January 6, 2012, 22:15 GMT

    Sad that the team doesn't know its strengths - and hence all the generalities.

  • POSTED BY Pilko_Pump_Pants on | January 6, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    Until the BCCI puts cricket before money things will not get better. After the 2007 World Cup in 2007 BCCI said they would produce better pitches for fast bowlers. We are still waiting. Winning at home is not enough. You have to win abroad . For all those who say England produce pitches for their bowlers, they may do but they can goto Australia and South Africa and beat them. India can only win at home or against the weaker teams overseas. They play all the matches in the IPL and then need a rest for the West Indies tour. That tells you all you need to know about the BCCI , but most Indian fans on here defend the BCCI like its an attack on the country if you criticise them.

  • POSTED BY Precioustar84 on | January 6, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    By the way, I remember when Ashwin was upset after 2nd day I believe, he said wicket was flat so there was nothing the bowler could've done so I had told myself I will remember that comment when the Indians start to bat. If we are such flat track bullies, this was a pathetic performance from the middle order. The only batsmen to praise for good batting EFFORT were Gambhir, Sachin, Laxman, Ashwin and Zaheer!! Too bad they couldn't carry it over the line. Mostly disappointed with Dhoni and Kohli in this match. Are we allowed to have 1 Indian team that travels green tops only and another set that stays for subcontinent matches only? Because apparently we have just those type of players in the team.

  • POSTED BY Precioustar84 on | January 6, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    Dhoni - all we hear from you now is blah blah blah ...if u going to talk the talk, then be able to walk the walk!!

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 21:07 GMT

    I think Indian batting is the strongest skill for winning Test cricket games but from last six games away from home their senior batsman not performing at all. India must need to drop some player like Shewag, Laxman, Dravid they need to retire if Tendulkar can't help much the He should thinking retire like Saurav Ganguly. India must start with thier new fresh young blood like other team. If you guys analyses from last ten test 7 tests completed in 4 days and 9 tests have results I am not expecting wasting my 5 days without any result All teams have issues while they play away from their home for example Australia played last year in South Africa and all out in just 29 or 32 runs at that time Michel Clark was part of team too so Australia know that their problem they also loss last game at their home with NZ I think Indian selection team can't give ,ore chance to now Indian senior batsman there is no more personnel feeling if you don't do your job then you should know what do you have l

  • POSTED BY truth_bearer on | January 6, 2012, 21:06 GMT

    Stating the obvious in the most prosaic manner, that's what most post-game interviews are usually about. That's the one thing MS Dhoni seems to be really good at.

  • POSTED BY theRule19 on | January 6, 2012, 20:02 GMT

    Utterly disappointed in the Indian teams performance in the just concluded test match. Really hope, they improve on the fielding (most importantly) and batting (primarily) in the next games. The rest can take care of itself. Good luck team India.

  • POSTED BY shiva89 on | January 6, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    i dnt agree that its the time for veterans to quit... be it be any series home or away... it is only seniors who are doing things for india. sachin scored more than 230 runs in 4 innings... highest for india. dravid did well in melbourne and was the only guard in england. laxman did well here in sydney 2nd innings. all 3 of them did well against the windies n scored plenty of runs. it is the youth which seems to be unmanageable... gambhir doing nothing for more than 2 years except in 2-3 innings. kohli not justifying himself in tests. sehwag didnt contribute heftily. raina proved out to be a big failure in tests. dhoni himself is mediocre in tests. its the only seniors on which team india is sailing... without them it is even difficult for india to find a place in top 6. In the perth test they can atleast replace kohli in favor of rohit.

  • POSTED BY RameshRayaprolu on | January 6, 2012, 19:45 GMT

    In fact, this phase doesn't make you stronger, but it seems we got more weak ! Just because the wicket was flat, we got some runs in the last innings. That can never make you feel strong. As a fan of Indian cricket, I would like to see some 'fighting' instinct and neck-to-neck test matches, doesn't matter if we loose all the games, or if the games end in 3-4 days. So far in this series, I have not seen any fight-back from either out batsmen or our bowlers. A repeat of the same result as in England tour is inevitable but, I wish to see some fighting performances from the Indian team.

  • POSTED BY HiyerNHiyer on | January 6, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    You need to have horses for courses.. for Aus, get a team that will play better there and not go by past records.. Sehwag and Kohli bowling 20 overs ina test is a joke..have guts, play with 5 frontline bowlers.. the additional batsmen is not helping.. Get Rohit in, Get an additional fast bowler and not Vinay kumar please..You still have 5 days for the next test.. get Irfaan Pathan down and make him play, he can play as the fifth bowler and bat at Seven

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | January 6, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    The big problem is the batting can't hack bounce and the only decent bowler is Zaheer.Ashwin has achieved nothing so far and seemingly bowls well on home tracks and is useless abroad.He has got a test ton though.Step forward Harbhajan mark 2.Sehwag should be dropped as he shows no class away from home.To keep getting out to this Aus attack is poor.England played the same bowlers and smacked them around mercilessly.Yep India you lost to one average team

  • POSTED BY HiyerNHiyer on | January 6, 2012, 19:37 GMT

    Simple.. if the curator says the pitch will do help teh bowlers for the first two or three sessions before the start of the test..listen and do NOT opt to bat after winning the toss. Also, please check the results and the way the pitch behaved over the past year or so.. C'mon MSD if we can sit here and see that what are you and your support team doing??. For perth use common sense rather than going on a "Sightseeing" trip..

  • POSTED BY ggsg on | January 6, 2012, 19:27 GMT

    Team as whole has failed. No point in saying its becuz of seniors team lost it is becuz opener and top order has not fired middle order has not come good, leadership has been devoid of idea, bowling unit as whole has been indiscpline. People were talking bhajji should drop or retired ashwin is good... but.... team india has failed. two more test to if india have to come back they team as an whole collective unit have to play out of there skin. good luck india

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | January 6, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    Some fans are suggesting Dhoni give up his captaincy. I believe he doesn't deserve a place in the XI leave alone captain the side. But, on second thoughts, who else could lead this side better? Some may suggest Sehwag but I don't think he is that good a leader as he is a batsman. I think Gambhir is a very good choice. I hope the BCCI get their acts together. World cricket needs a strong Indian side. I may have had arguments with Indian fans in the past especially when they were playing England but it is sad to see a team with names like Sachin, Rahul, VVS, Sehwag and Zaheer go down tamely to a mediocre Aussie side. I expect India to bounce back in Perth and Adelaide. They should win at least one of those tests. They should try Ojha but Ashwin has done well with the bat at least. But, if India are serious about winning these tests, they should play Ojha. Even Ganguly was saying the same thing in his commentary. Finger spinners usually don't do well in Australia.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | January 6, 2012, 19:02 GMT

    The only way forward for India is to make some bold decisions - let Dravid and Laxman retire gracefully. I am not suggesting that the youngsters taking their place will be as good as them. These kind of players come once in a generation. India were lucky that they had 4 such batsmen at the same time. However, no one (no, not even Sachin even though he is still in great form which is incredible) is greater than father time and age has caught/will catch up with all players sometime. I am an England fan but was expecting India to beat the Aussie side this time and thus tick a box that is pending for a long time (a series win down under). They deserved better than their series loss in 2007-2008. So, it is quite disappointing that they have been crushed like this. But, India is a huge, cricket-mad country and they could easily find 15 quality players to make a world beating squad. Priority should be given to test cricket though.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    why he is saying some words after every defeat ? if he has some moral then he should resign as test captain. like dravid did after eng tour even though he performed well. earlier he was winning on luck and now that luck is also working only in indian pitches

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | January 6, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    L.Balaji (captain) & DKarthik (55 of 32 balls) of TN went after the target of 146 in 13 overs in the Ranji match against Haryana. TN tried till the last ball of the match, missed by just 5 runs and it was draw. TN took the risk though already safe with the 1st innings lead (per Ranji rules on 1st innings lead). Compare that with Dhoni's refusal to chase 88 from 15 overs against West Indies ! I would rather watch such spirited Ranji matches than India matches under Dhoni's captaincy.

  • POSTED BY Scheduler on | January 6, 2012, 18:24 GMT

    two of the best comments from Mr. Shastri ' Kohli has the ability to put away the loose balls and Hilfenhaus has the ability to take wickets. I guess its time star cricket also brings in freshness to its commentary team

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 18:16 GMT

    The basic problem is chemistry. Dravid and Laxman have to go. It is time to bite the bullet and let Pujara and Sharma come in. Sachin should still remain in the side but with strict instructions to always remain positive in his batting. Ganguly (my current fav commentator), kept talking about how Sachin has gone into a shell and predicted his dismissal.

    Gambhir needs a gut check. In Oz, the opening partnerships are critical to visitors. Oz attack can quickly get on top if they smell blood early. Remember Viru-Akash 03-04, Strauss-Cook last year? Opening stands of 100+ are ESSENTIAL for a visiting team to survive in Oz.

  • POSTED BY myStraightTalk on | January 6, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    The team is not playing as a unit when we have seniors relectuant to take the leadership role.. Sachin should have taken captain for his experiance not persuing personal goal.. Laxman gave away more runs in the field and running between the wicket and still he find a place in the team because there is no player in india to replace those guys.. what a joke.

  • POSTED BY Advanced_Donkeys on | January 6, 2012, 17:56 GMT

    oh..wait..no..no..i say no...you guys can't bowl too much short balls.Indians are afraid of that . Hereafter just slow, friendly deliveries only ...ok..

  • POSTED BY woodhaven on | January 6, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    if india wants to retain Top 5 position, they should only play in their own country with spin friendly pitches

  • POSTED BY Advanced_Donkeys on | January 6, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    When???????????????????????

  • POSTED BY Ganes.V on | January 6, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    Sad.Being an Indian cricket fan it was a very bad feeling -we lost the second test too. Wonderful batting by Ponting Hussey and Clarke in particular. Not long back the same Aussie team were on the verge of scoring the lowest score ever in tests against NZ and here they are doing superbly against India.It is the Indian bowling which is bad. Of course the batsmen also makes mediocre bowlers look great when they bat! This Indian team and the same Sachin could not score a 100 against the west Indies in indian wickets and how do we expect him to do it in Australia where the wickets help bowlers? He is a great batsman but sorry He is losing it and will soon be seen as a burden for this team and as one who is blocking youngsters chance to enter the team. People forget good deeds soon...He should try scoring the inevitable 100 in the remaining tests and if he misses- he should retire with grace. So should Dravid and Laxman retire too without waiting any longer.. Save their grace and face..

  • POSTED BY srikrishsri on | January 6, 2012, 17:47 GMT

    MR.DHONI, Please dont justify for the defeat you have been through the season.., first england now australia.... But its hard to digest the fact that we have gone down very badly. Stand up and do something which remembers you as an INDIAN CRICKET TEAM CAPTAIN and not CHENNAI SUPERKINGS CAPTAIN... Commitment should be of the same level. Its not that you play for the amount you are bought and give your best for the amount that you owe to your team owner... Wake up guys, stop marketing the ghost of cricket(T20)..., keep alive the beauty of this game.... Michael Clarke has set a good example by boycotting IPL., now he has shown what kind of a leader he is... Mr.Dhoni., please learn from your host captain and perform for INDIA....

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 17:40 GMT

    when will the indians realize that sehwag cannot score against fast bowling on fast wickets, and with dravid, tendulkar and laxman all but retired, i shudder to think what will happen after their departure from test cricket. kohli is over rated and IPL has all but ruined him. raina and rohit should be inducted but the the indians will still be suspect in england, south africa and australia. Tigers at home, jackals overseas.

  • POSTED BY CheetosRule on | January 6, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    Tigers at home..Paper Tigers Abroad

  • POSTED BY positiveindian on | January 6, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    As a diehard fan, I am extremely disappointed. I remember Aus in SL series recently (may be a couple of years back-not in 2011), if my memory serves right, Aus won 3-0 but the the matches were close. At least there was a fight by the losing team. Here, I thought we competed hard in Melbourne but lost the game in Sydney on the first day. But the attitude is shocking. Why the defeatist attitude?? So what if you have only 190 runs in the first innings. Play i.e. bowl, field as if your life depends on it. I guess we either have lack of skill, or motivation or both. We need some players who can inspire like a kapil, Imran, Javed, on the field. Sadly, the Indian team currently looks like we have no one. As a die hard fan, I will always give support to the team, especially when they are down. If they think they are better and can win, they will. Its all in the mind. Nobody thought in 2008 that we will win in Perth of all grounds. But we did, work hard, believe and show attitude to win.

  • POSTED BY IMEthan on | January 6, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    n wat abt anil kumble new coach?

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    Well said, Dhoni, After hitting rock bottom, the only way is up. Hope for best.

  • POSTED BY Nomad82 on | January 6, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    When Dhoni was first promoted to captain for India, he was praised for being an inspiration to his players. If you don't back your bowlers to bowl in dangerous areas, then they'll struggle to perform and tale wickets. Modern batsmen are hard to contain.

    Look at the huge difference the combination of Pups aggressive captaincy and McDermott's aggressive coaching have made for Siddle and Hilfenhaus. This time last year, they'd have struggled to get Gambir out...

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 17:10 GMT

    I PAY TO WATCH PROFESSIONALS PLAY. Stop talking philosophy and being amature - sometimes a retrospective analysis and admittance is important. Why not admit that you lacked instinct and failed as a captain to gain momentum. YOU AND YOUR BUNCH ARE NOT WORTH MY TIME AND MONEY.

  • POSTED BY Anantharao on | January 6, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    India's away performance has to improve. This is acceptable to Dhoni may be. But for those million fans of India it is very disappointing. Each International cricketer's profession is cricket either as a Batsman or Bowler. Earlier days before starting first test match in Australia or England teams have to play some practice matches before going to the real Test Match. We cannot blame anybody other than us. Now a day's Bowling Machines are readily available. Put only short balls for period of days for those who does need practice. Prepare bouncy Pitches similar to Australia and England (import soil from these countries if required) in India and do the intensive training. Regarding the uplift from here, If Dhoni doesn't make any changes in Team; we could expect the same result. We should put Ajinkya Rahane and Rohit Sharma in and rest old guns. Forget that they scored some runs in this match. The way Ashwin Stands- bat backlift- for batting is the best and the future. More time to BAT.

  • POSTED BY Zaynsbaba on | January 6, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    Nothing but a load of boloney from Dhoni. Yes, they'll get stronger...when they get back to their home turf after a whitewash downunder.

  • POSTED BY SanjivAwesome on | January 6, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    If we could re-create our team with hungry test cricketers who want to play cricket for cricket fans, Dhoni, his losing strategies and team mates may be able to go on an extended recreational leave. Sad to say that I had predicted India will fold on day 4.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    WE heard this after the first two matches against England...... and ended up suffering even heavier defeats. Oh well.......

  • POSTED BY drnaveed on | January 6, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    dhoni said " in sports you are not destined to only win" , agreed , but in sports you are not destined to loose every single test abroad as is the case here with this indian side. he then said "you'll loose at times.you will face difficult times.that improves you as an individual and as a skipper" , i dont agree with that,here you are loosing every time you play,rather than loosing at times,furthermore if the above phrase is true than i think bangladeshi team is on course to come on top of the teams ranking in the near future as thay are loosing every single test home or abroad. the BD team has changed so many captains just because of loosing test matches.mr dhoni should think twice before speaking.similarly, mr sehwag said this is the best indian bowling line up he has played with,i think this was a big joke as well .india should select a different team for tests,as most of the other sides are doing.sehwag,gambhir,kohli and few others are not meant for playing test cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    The time has come for Dhoni to be sacked as captain. His leadership of the side since the tour of England has been extremely poor, while his batting leaves much to be desired. Come on Dhoni, you don't spread the field when bowling to tailenders. As captain of the side he has to take the blame.

  • POSTED BY xylo on | January 6, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    "The big hundreds were all scored by Australia, which has brought Dhoni's captaincy under immense scrutiny." interesting idea. The captain is held responsible for the failures of big names like Surrender to Virender, Master Blaster Sachin, The Wall Dravid, Very Very Special Laxman?? Enough of these titles, and get on with your performances. The captain did what he could - win the toss - and asked these big names to bat to put on a big score. He also did sound a warning that the ball might do a bit for the first 20 overs or so. And, the big guns were back in the hut by the 25th over. After all, it was the captain who played with the tail with the limited talent that he has to get them to at least 190.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    Indians where never aggressive in this match...which is the difference between the team who was in 2003 and 2008 who visited Australia

  • POSTED BY maulikshah17 on | January 6, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    4 humuliating losses in England and already 2 here. The way this is going, India is on track to lose the other 2 as well. When exactly is this 'character of strength' going to kick in MS?

  • POSTED BY prasanna_79 on | January 6, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    The best thing to do is remove Dhoni from captaincy in test matches,make him concentrate in his batting instead..,play with 5 bowlers mostly ( as ashwin can definitely contribute consistently with the bat ) 3 athletic seamers + 2 spinners in good pitches,4 seamers + ashwin in seaming pitches or 2 seamers & 3 spinners (ashwin,jadeja & another spinner) in indian conditions.. The senior batters who are unfit or lacking in athleticism like laxman,sehwag should retire graciously.. Select condition specific batters ( for ex.., raina in test matches in India alone ) and batters ( & not flashy) who are gritty and battle hardened in FC cricket..,who wouldn't give their wickets away easily..,like badrinath,parvinder singh,pujara should be given a long run in test matches.. India dont tour abroad in the next two years.. So this is the best time to give some confidence to the new batters in test matches.. Give the young batsmen a long run.. Also make fitness a first priority.. Come on India..

  • POSTED BY samudralakiku on | January 6, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    If Dhoni and Team wants to get time off from too much cricket, they should take time off from IPL and CLT20s. Not the International games. If they can not do that, they should retire and solely focus on IPL. They can trade national pride for insane amounts of money from IPL.

  • POSTED BY oziejune on | January 6, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    Blame it on the IPL partly and sponsorship deals. Thre is so much financial gain and committments, that it takes it toll on the players focus and ultimately yheir game. Sad but true.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Shewag,Kohli & Ishant sharma should be replaced by rahane,rohitsharma & Ojha

  • POSTED BY Sarangarajan on | January 6, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    Are we to believe that the present Australian team is as good as the results suggest in the present series.We are blaming the ageing super stars for all the follies in the team. Name any one young batsman in the Aussies who has done well barring clarke in the last innings.So the age factor has nothing to do. Look around and see what kallis has done in the SA Vs Srilanka series? It is just one innings of Indian batting that can upset the Aussies on their track .It almost happened in the first test when India was crusing along at 214/2 till Sachin got out. Same thing happened here in Sydney also in the second innings. The collapse had been sudden and un- announced.Let us get a sizeable first innings lead and see how the aussies wilt under pressure.There is nothing more to loose and am sure that this team should play freely and tame the Aussies. Sachin's batting has been the only purple patch so far .

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    COOL STORY BRO! AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE! TIME FOR ANOTHER SERIES WHITEWHASH

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 16:01 GMT

    Yes if all these big talkers are sent out and if we couulod fine some fresh legs-Opps the cupboard is empty

  • POSTED BY Indiaforever on | January 6, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    I dont really agree with Dhoni as a captain meaning his tactics, but we dont have a better captain in sight. I dont really think that Sehwag or Gambhir will do a better job in test matches, we should only remove Dhoni when we have someone else in sight of the job for long term. In terms of Dhonis Wicket keeping and batting, i think Saha is a better keeper but hes not a great batsmen but then again Dhoni isnt a great batsmen is he? I agree with what he says that this slump will make us a better team, but hopefully we will come back strongly in Perth where we won the last test there. Sachins 100 will come in Australia definately, either in test matches or the ODIs against Australia and Sri Lanka.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 15:44 GMT

    I seriously hope what Dhoni believes in comes true... I mean its disgraceful to have the team you love and respect lose by such a huge margin... This is the second time within 6 matches India has played(away from home) that we have lost by an Innings. Disgraceful. Anyways all we need to do his hope for the best and pray that the Indian team wins the next two matches and gains back the status quo it once had... God Bless India....

  • POSTED BY NaniIndCri on | January 6, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    Its time to drop Ishanth Sharma. I don't understand how many more matches he needs to play to become experienced. All the talk that he is not lucky is rubbish, he is not lucky because he is not consistent. He should bowl consistently to one line and length to get a wicket, which he seldom does and once in a while he bowls a good delivery that is not good enough in test cricket. He should learn from Ben Hilfenaus on how to bowl consistent line and length.

  • POSTED BY arun_padmanabhan on | January 6, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    yes Mr. Dhoni, you speak well..but when most of your batsmen have been found wanting for technique, isnt it better to practice with intensity on whatever time is available?? and with about 1 week left, almost all the technical glitches can be solved..and as one comment said, if the loss in england didnt make the team strong enough, what will??

  • POSTED BY Me_A_Gemini on | January 6, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    Hopeless captain of a Hopeless team....

  • POSTED BY silly_pt on | January 6, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    I think the real problem with India is excessive cricket since the time IPL started. These players especially the special 3 have been performing consistently for last 10years or so & frequency of games played have increased significantly post IPL. Also there has been poor tour management by BCCI with some meaningless home tours just to retain no. 1 ranking. It just takes away the essence of playing & everything becomes more or less mechanical. The players just couldn't be there 100% however hard they try. And in such mind set when you lose to England 4-0 that is a tremendous psychological setback. World Cup win was a great achievement & was essential since we could not possibly let the best ODI player in history go without that, but after that they needed rest & whole lot of it. Anyways, If special 3 are destined to retire without an Aus, SA win then be it. Cricinfo publish.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 15:20 GMT

    I think Indian batting is the strongest skill for winning Test cricket games but from last six gmaes away from home thier senior batsman not performing at all. India must need to drop some player like Shewag, Laxman, Dravid they need to retire if Tendulkar can't help much the He should thinking retire like Saurav Ganguly. India must start with thier new fresh young blood like other team. If you guys analyses from last ten test 7 tests comleted in 4 days and 9 tests have results I am not expecting wasting my 5 days without any result All teams have issues while they play away from thier home for example Australia played last year in South Africa and all out in just 29 or 32 runs at that time Michel Clark was part of team too so Australia know that thier problem they also loss last game at hteir home with NZ I think Indian selection team can't give ,ore chance to now Indian senior batsmans there is no more personnel feeling if you don't do your job then you should know what do you have l

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 15:20 GMT

    The middle order collapse was the reason for loss I think. Recollect that Australia was 37/3 and India was 243/3 today. Had our middle order batsmen Kohli and Dhoni stitched together a big partnership, the picture would have been different. We were deficit by 68 runs. Had 2 or 3 batsmen stepped up and rose to the occasion, we could have atleast drawn the game. Anyways, good for Gambhir and Laxman. They are back in form. Someone please replace Sehwag. His bravado is too much.Never performs when team needs him. Remember him getting out for Duck in World Cup finals, and now falling for 4 runs.Retain Gambhir as he is the only left hander in team,O pen with Ashwin and Gambhir. Take an extra bowler in place of Sehwag and replace Kohli with Rohit Sharma. Good to see 400 on board though. Hope to see Sharma in Perth. Cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY Jaggadaaku on | January 6, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    Mr. Cold, I don't have no words for you, nor your team now. The bottom line is Dravid, Laxman, and you especially, not good for cricket. If this phase(0-2) will make team stronger, then last year, the team-India was on same phase against England, and your team couldn't win any match of the rest. Do you really think this phase really makes your team stronger. The bottom line is the captain has to be role model mostly. That is why the captain are for. If the captain won't make the runs, what the captain would expect from the other batsmen. Australian captain made 329 not out runs, and you couldn't make even 30. Sehwag shouldn't be in test team or you cannot put him on opening slot. Just use him to open when you guys want build the foundation to win. You may not win this match, but there were much possibilities to avoid losing by innings if you, Sehwag, Dravid, and Kohli played carefully. What did you learn coming to AUS 2-3 weeks early on BCCI's expense? How to lose the match???

  • POSTED BY veetee2011 on | January 6, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Really? You guys need a break? Come on! The biggest factor missing from Dhoni is inspired leadership, "leading from the front" quality. You can't just wait for things to happen. You can't control how batsman play. However, you an still control it somehow with changing the batting order. Bowling? You can control. Why didn't you try with your medium pacers or Tendulkar's leg spin for a change? Did you see how Clark got Tendulkar's wicket? At least try it. When you have two back to back 250 partnerships going, I expect all 11 names in the bowling column. At least that's how I would have done it!

  • POSTED BY ddlj26 on | January 6, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    The problem with Dhoni here is he believes his bowlers will always bowl to a plan which i think going by the indian attack and its weakness will never happen... Dhoni when will you realize that TEST cricket is not ODI or T20 for that matter, there are so many overs and bowling to a plan throughout the match is impossible. I think Dhoni should take a cue out of one of our successful test captains Ganguly who not only used to give tit for tat but also set attacking fields when the need of the hour like in adelaide, headingley and so forth... Also i feel where dhoni as a captain lacks is motivation on the field, he should not shy away from talking to the bowlers and letting them know what he wants and also how comfortable they are to bowling to certain fields

  • POSTED BY Pakistanvictorious on | January 6, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    The only reason for such deep slump of Indian cricket is the poor administration, I dont know when the Indian cricket administrators will realize the importance of injecting young blood. If you have to lose at the end then why not to lose with young guys. Indian fans should understand that individual records are not important than the national pride. Indian cricket need a complete overhauling, they need to prepare supporting pitches,young blood should be introduced and gods should be excused now, enough is enough.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 15:03 GMT

    i dont think ms dhoni should be blamed what can he do if his team mates just are showing no intensity on the feild just talking about their personal matters to the team showing no intrest in the match he cant go and shout to a tendulkar dravid or laxman sehwag how will this make team stronger he knows better than us but i think we should wonder what duncan fletcher is doing dhoni was doing well overseas as captain with same team that went to eng and aus (almost) when kirsten coach should be sacked

  • POSTED BY noplay on | January 6, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    Hey skipper, you are so right. It is difficult for a team with these names to get any worse. So they better get stronger. You are looking just like my team (WI) when you played England and now Ausstralia

  • POSTED BY onkar567 on | January 6, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    A shameful performance on the part of the indians,definitely.Dhoni,including some players (exception(sachin t)) are taking this tour granted.They don't want to give some really convincing performances which shut the critics,but instead put it on their luck to win the 5-day contest.DHONI,REMEMBER YOUR PLAYING CRCKET FOR YOUR NATION,NOT PLAYING FOR THE SAKE OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYWAYS,BEST OF LUCK TO THE BOYS.HOPE LIKE EVERYTIME IN THIS SERIES,GOD(SACHIN T) SAVES THEM.........................

  • POSTED BY heshan666 on | January 6, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    Well,i don't know how india come out this situation and play thier own game(attacking cricket).It's going 2 be another 4-0 defeat against Australia.But if u see how Srilanka played against SA,that should be a lesson 4 india.Keep your mental fresh 4 next few days.And look to get something around 350 mark 4 your first inning,if you bat first.Then exactly you can give your bowlers a chance to pick wickets like what SL did in the 2nd test against SA.But if you don't do that the same result will be see.

  • POSTED BY Test_Match_Fan on | January 6, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    Here is the root cause of the problem: India is a 20/20 team. 20/20 and IPL is not cricket. Go back to the drawing board and select a test cricket team. Get rid of all the 20/20 wonders like Kohli and Dhoni and Ashwin, and bring in some real test cricket talent out of Ranji Trophy (old school)

  • POSTED BY IndianFan12 on | January 6, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    I looked at the records in the post-Gavasker era (1970 - going froward). No point looking at India's performance before that since we were like Zimbabwe/Bangladesh then. India in Australia - Won - 5; Lost 14 (not including this current series) Australia in India - Won - 4; Lost 12

    I agree India needs to get a series victory in Australia but the overall victories indicate Australia is not great either. Remember, they came with one of their best teams in decades (2001) to India and lost that series. India did not have Srinath or Kumble then. Hang in there guys. Dhoni is a good leader, very resilient and willing to learn. Some changes are needed especially with the oldies past their prime. We will come back strong soon!

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    Hello Mr.Dhoni, first of all try to learn something about batting and setting an aggressive field for the batsmen when pressure is building around. Don't be cool as always. U should show more aggression in the field. Or better retire from Test cricket.

  • POSTED BY avi82 on | January 6, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    At least show some guts and make the series 2-1 instead of whitewash

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    Well doni has been say this from last six test....He also said "In sport you are not destined to only win" But He is not winning any test. lol....

  • POSTED BY tanstell87 on | January 6, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    Dhoni should give-up captaincy in test cricket....Zaheer would make a good captain...!

  • POSTED BY raveekoomar on | January 6, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    I repeated this slogan to my friends since 1992, BOWLERS WIN MATCHES NOT BATSMAN. If you look at history Kapil's Devils would never have beaten the GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME - WEST INDIES in 1983 had it not been the prep talk of the captain then that we can still give our best shot we got the ability we got the bowlers to do it. So even then it was a paltry score of 183 the captain boosts the confidence of the bowlers, who according to world media at that time was medicore except for Kapil himself maybe. Coming to the point what else should i say but drop Kohli push Ashwin up the order, dont know if Rohit sharma can score a century atleast in the next two tests put together, and have 4 fast bowlers. Ashwin will do the spinners job. Or bring back Irfan pathan. Cant we have some Indian bowlers go to English counties and improve their skills there? Zaheer became a different bowler since his time at Worchestershire where Vikram solanki backed his inclusion in tht county. Bid bye to IPL.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    Question for all....by the performance of Dhoni in the Tests so far is he fit as a no.7 batsmen who can bat with tail and even finish the game??? he is good Odi and T20 player but not a convincing and consistent batsmen. Indian team should see for a different captain for tests, if we take the captaincy equation from dhoni where can he be placed??? as a batsmen or as a wicketkeeper??? The best no.7 batsmen is A.Gilchrist, he was a fine finisher, a controller and the best wicketkeeper of the game....

  • POSTED BY indianpunter on | January 6, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    This is worse than the bad old days of the 90s. Never thought i will have to live thru the nightmare of the 99-00 series down under one more time. I am losing my faith. Unfortunately, Tendulkar playing for his 100th doesnt help anyone. He got out just before the 2nd new ball ( being too cautious) and exposed Kohli/ Dhoni/ Lax to the new ball. If only he put the teams cause first, he would have been sitting on 103 or 104 hundreds by now.

  • POSTED BY analyseabhishek on | January 6, 2012, 13:58 GMT

    The problems is that this is not a young team which will benefit from experience. All these superstars will be gone within a year and with them, all the so called experience!

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    before starting this match i forward one mail to cricinfo. but from your side not put that one at that day and i commented this match will finish within 3 and half days.and result 2-0 both one happend.

  • POSTED BY venbas on | January 6, 2012, 13:46 GMT

    In sport you are not destined to only win....whoa what do I do now...cry or laugh. We are looking at 8-0 scoreliine at end of this series. This will be the WORST EVER track record of the Indian team in away matches PERIOD. Forget winning, this bunch of bozos will not even be able to draw a match in Australia and that will drive the nail the coffin on the WEAKEST india time to travel outside in decades or maybe the worst ever India team since India started playing cricket.

  • POSTED BY srisal on | January 6, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    Guys relax! What is wrong with you ppl. Aus winning in Aus is no big deal. each team wins at home as the conditions favor them. aus cannot win in SA against a strong SA side and in India this Aus team will definitely loose big time. yes, i agree Ind didnt manage to win in both the away series, but it is no crime. they are trying their best, sometimes Hardwork pays sometimes you struggle even with a lot of effort.so chill. none of them really pointed out that indian team won wc because they played at home, that was not the biggest discussion at that point of time so why do we have to bring that now. if sach plays well we will enjoy if he doesnt starting cursing MS and others.. its a game, so get a life!

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    Unless the domestic pitches are made to suit the fast bowlers, it is not at all possible to play good game of cricket in away pitches. How long we are going to steam roll the pitches which will offer low bounce and make our batsmen unworthy to play in faster tracks. The class of Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman will not always come good on faster and seaming wickets.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    Being a cricket fan for several years.. I have seen these kind of embarrassing defeats of India in abroad. But those days our bowlers were suffered a lot. India bowlers were hopeless and batting is the only strength. But nowadays our batting is going deep down. And that too India is having one of all time three greats (Sachin, Dravid and Laxman) in there batting line up. I think India should have a Test cricket captain. Honestly Dhoni is not the correct at the moment. Should give the responsibility to someone who is good in Test cricket and should play for next five or six years. Dhoni is a very good wicket keeper/batsman, but not for test cricket. the burden is too heavy. Gautham should be India's next captain. and Rohit sharma should be a regular playing eleven.. and time to say goodbye to elders..

  • POSTED BY Sano27 on | January 6, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    I simply cant understand what Dhoni trying to convey....if this phase makes the team stronger then what about from the tour against Englad....these guys including the "batting legends" didnt learnt anything from the previous tour so far...!

  • POSTED BY Mill1 on | January 6, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    If anyone needs time off from Cricket, surely that can be arranged....in fact those who need time off should also miss the next 2 tests, i'm sure some willing replacement can be found!! Also, as cricketers and batsman mature, even the really exceptional ones, they change their technique to suit the needs of the team, tendulkar did so a few years ago. However, why is it always OK for Sehwag to adopt a wreckless attitude, just because "thats the way he plays"...if he was such a great batsman, he'd have the ability to change accordingly. I don't know why the media keeps reporting on Tendulkar's 100th 100....who cares, its a team game...instead why not report on the technical reasons why india is doing so badly and how the IPL has made the national team into an embarrassment. When the English premier league was created they didn't change the rules of the game, make the goal posts bigger etc....they just made the spectacle more commercial. So ban IPL, and make tests more commercial.

  • POSTED BY 777aditya on | January 6, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    in the next match, Kohli should make way for Rohit Sharma and perhaps Sachin should open with Sehwag with Gambhir at 3 like the ODIs. cant help but think that Irfan Pathan could have added more teeth to the attack and might have helped the batting woes as well

  • POSTED BY Dhsquarem on | January 6, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    In my analysis we lost the game because of these reasons; 1). Wrong decision to bat first. 2). India did not score close enough to give any challenge to Aussies. Their batsmen played freely without worrying about the total score. Also Aus bowlers had an advantage that they could bowl India out cheaply anytime. 3). Clark started scoring at a good pace and that put India in defensive field. That opened window for Ponting and Hussy to score as well. Of course Clark kept on scoring at a pretty good rate. That allowed them to put such a big score in very short time, to give their bowlers more than 2 days to have a shot at India. 4). In second inning Sehwag should have seen the pitch going flat as he himself bowled to Aussies. He should have just tried to avoid anything outside off and stick to basics, especially to save the test. Someone needed to play Clark inning from India. Dravid, Laxman have lost touch and need to be rested with Kohli. Rohit & Pragyan should be in for next game.

  • POSTED BY DJGenius on | January 6, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    Don't see how the team will become stronger with batting collapses in 6 consecutive test matches overseas, I think the batting unit lacks serious patience against bowlers who bowl a consistent line around the off stump and being used to easy shot making back home does help them either. Never saw anybody willing to fight it out instead play strokes which were not called for apart from a few dismissals which were off good balls. Unless they start playing 100 overs on a consistent basis I don't see how the team is going to perform better. Before this tour the bowling was a weak link, now its the batting and the caption says the team will get stronger !

  • POSTED BY Kaze on | January 6, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    Being thrashed will make the team stronger, how funny. I guess being whitewashed will take the team to greatness lol .

  • POSTED BY Don_Simon on | January 6, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    Yep, players will be in great form by the time of the IPL !!

  • POSTED BY hunksurat on | January 6, 2012, 13:00 GMT

    Captains lead by example but look at dhoni. If you see most of the test playing teams captain most of them are outstanding "test" players. I think its time that Dhoni should be relived of his test playing duties. We need some WK who can atleast hold their ground for 1 hr and score some runs, unlike Dhoni. Next thing we need to change is the middle order. What the heck. 1st test 214-2, 290 odd all out. This test 260-3 and 290-7. You cannot keep having such collapses often. There is absolutely no spine in our middle order. SRT should start treating bowlers on their merits and not jsut slow down becoz he is nearing a milestone. If yesterday it was sehwag bowling to clarke he would have literally torn him apart. They were scoring @ 6 runs per over when Indian part timers were bowling. SRT gave too much respect for clarke and paid the price. This Indian team is going nowhere. Bowlers who cannot take 20 wickets and batsmen cannot score runs in foreign conditions.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    I am sure that kolhi will be ddropped for the next match. But wierd will it be for dhoni to drop kolhi, coz he himself is not scoring any runs..

  • POSTED BY DAN22 on | January 6, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni...Pain makes mankind stronger...Dont know about the fans though.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    guys No team is winning in other country now a days only england had done it to australia all other countries are tigers in their own back yard but mice out of it pls give dhoni and co some time they will roar big

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | January 6, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    This squad along with Dhoni and Fletcher should be sent home for well earned rest! India need fresh legs and bodies. There is nothing to be gained from thise series playing the same team. Let's try and test new blood.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    in the beginning it sounded Good all these words from Dhoni- now it sounds pathetic...it is time to look beyond oldies - i know laxman scored a 60 and dravid had a great year and sachin almost saved the game....but is it not better to loose with youngsters than these guys who have been around for long .....time to say goodbye guys....but next series if it is is india all of them will score hundred or break a leg or sixers in IPL and thinks are back to singing hosannas how great these players blah blah....

  • POSTED BY A.Ak on | January 6, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    Should think about dropping Kholi and add one more bowler. When India keep on fialing to take 20 wickets in a match its Worth a try. I Pathan? who can contribute one way or the other. OR at least think about giving it someone who is seeking chance to prove, like Badrinath. NOT to a t20 hero.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    Sadly the truth is Dhoni is 100 percent not suitable for test captaincy, his field placings are rubbish coming to test matches, his instincts which change the bowler the very next over after he took a wicket just proves demoralising for bowlers! After drawing a test match in West Indies which they never tried to win they flown to England and got a 4-0 demoralising loss, then now in Aus tour from a commanding position of 214-2 in the first innings of 1st test they loss 2-0 ! We surely missing a Character like Ganguly in the side, we have too many a gentleman in Sachin-Dravid-Laxman who are not inspiring enoguh with words to younger ones ! We surely need characters who dont like to loose not the ones keep on giving excuses !

  • POSTED BY Ragothsun on | January 6, 2012, 12:40 GMT

    I think Dhoni should admit that his team has been outplayed in all departments collectively by the Aussies and see how his players can execute whatver skills they have better in the last two tests. Philosophy is easy and might help players destress before matches. Once match starts, if you cannot tackle what the Aussies are throwing at you in terms of bowling, batting and fielding, we are back to stress again. So, unless the Indians learn to execute their skills better as a unit, no amount of philosophy or recreation can help. You just have to compete equally session by session and show the opposition you have what it takes to tackle their game. If not, 4-0 is certain and more philosophy and coming back to flat and dusty pitches in India will follow to regain the 'ranking' a bit!

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    hahaha,,already 6-0..it is making the team stronger haha....

  • POSTED BY KK_Cricket on | January 6, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    Lets not take anything away from Dhoni.. He has done really well so far except for these two important tours but feel his mind is taking too much toll currently.. Don't forget he leads in the limited over matches as well.. We need a fresh mind for Tests and feel Gambhir can be a good bloke for this.. He is always in attacking mode and that mindset is required to lead as captain.. Steve Waugh, Ponting, Clarke, Strauss and even Smith, these people attack and come hard at the oppositions and that is what is required.. so far so good for Dhoni but now we need a fresh mind set.. Dhoni himself should leave the Test captaincy and make way for Gambhir...

  • POSTED BY ramli on | January 6, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    A captain can only be as good as the team ... this defensive/attacking field set up will work .. only when the bowling is done to a plan ... if the bowlers were astray .. no amount of field setting is going to help you ... this team lacks intensity ... oldies are not prepared to sweat it out anymore .. they are happy scoring little here and there to retain their places ... the result will not be any different .. even if a young team was fielded ... why not we start thinking ... our limited overs team after 2007 got stronger ONLY after youngsters were included ...let us not waste time ...

  • POSTED BY Mayan820 on | January 6, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    Come on you Indian supporters . . . be positive, you have to be positive. Stop harping on the negatives and search for the positives. There are many positives . . . G. Gambhir almost got to his century in the 2nd innings, which is an excellent effort after his duck in the first. He can only do better from here. Sehwag is minutes away from burying Australia in a mountain of runs, S. Tendulkar will surely get his 100th century very soon, a fantastic player like R. Dravid will not be denied runs for a 5th consecutive innings, no way, V. Kholi is struggeling, but will very likely be replaced by R. Sharma who is an excellent batsman and with regard to R. Ashwin . . . in this guy you have the next Indian super star. He is one fantastic player, whom the Ausies will want to wish away, mark my words. Bless all your players (especially the captain M. S. Dhoni), BLESS them and do not curse them with even one word of negativity.!

  • POSTED BY CAJOSEPH on | January 6, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    Dhoni....your attitude is a bigger concern than the performance of the team. This defeat needs to hurt and you show no signs of it. After England all of us, staunch India fans thought that it's a one off series. Every team has the right to have a bad series. Even back then you were not too worried, just blamed lame things like luck and injuries. It's time now to wake up and accept that we are just incapable of playing abroad. It's time to introspect if we are making the right decisions, its time to take some tough calls really. At a time when the team is being put to shame by a rookie bowling unit, we are talking of individual achievements like Sachin's 100 100's. Time to start making some tough calls, time to take defeat seriously and work out a plan. As of now the only plan that I see is...wait till the end of the series...we will have two years without touring abroad, giving us the best chance to boss over opponents on our own batting beauties.

  • POSTED BY Yevghenny on | January 6, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    It's not just losses, it's the manner of these losses. They have almost all been crushing victories. In a couple of them India had opportunities, but failed with the bat and look impotent with the ball.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    There is an element of luck or "IFFY ness". If we had put them to bat, and if our bowlers had taken advantage of the wicket, we could have got them out cheaply. If we had the same placid wicket that Aussies had in their first innings we may have taken a good lead. But cricket is not an iffy game. One has to bowl in the right areas and not erratically that our bowlers did and bat with some resoluteness and not throw wickets as Sehwag and a few others did. Perth will not be easy and recovery will depend on some meaningful changes!

  • POSTED BY Jiteendra on | January 6, 2012, 12:03 GMT

    I must admit that Indian team is doing us a favor by ending the match in the fourth day itself....at least the fans will not wait another full day in the false hope that India can win or even draw the match!! thanks a lot to our great team.......you guys truly rock!! If we can boast off our team's good performance....it's very much right on our part to criticize them.....n yes....BCCI needs to behave in much more responsible way.....their constant refusal to adopt the DRS system only reflects their obstinate behavior and bossy attitude! ......i think that this is simply an excuse to cover up the fact that indian team is not capable enough to win a series in difficult conditions of SA, Eng, Aus....n any other world class team.....please MS...the best think for you will be to resign and retire from the Indian Test team..you will surely be surely the team a great favor!!

  • POSTED BY Kothandaram on | January 6, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    It is somehow baffling as to why such a strong batting line-up keeps failing abroad. the big three or four - didn't strike in unison in both the Tests and the results showed. when Batsmen like Tendulkar and Dravid don't come good, then the team collapses. it is wrong to keep blaming the youngsters if they fail on a few occasions. they need time to find their feet. Kohli, ROhitSharma and Pujara are among the future middle-order mainstays and need a decent run before they are discarded. Raina was given a pretty long run but his frailties came to the fore in the longer form though he still scores heavily in the shorter versions. it has to be seen how the Indians can bounce back after the two demoralising defeats

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 11:52 GMT

    Haha. M.S Dhoni...always good with words...not with tactics...I think attractive words would not be good enough to defend a terrible whitewash against England in England and same in Australia.

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    I feel sorry for Dhoni since the team India is a different outfit once they go outside the sub continent. Dhoni's main failing is his tremendous confidence in the players of choice. the old tested time worn veterans like Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman besides the explosive Sehwag. But their best days are over and it is time for him to build a team of the future around Rohit Sharma, Pujara, Badrinath besides Sehwag and Ganbhir and himslef for experience. Too much reliance on only old war horses like Zaheer and Harbachan did not help Dhoni because he refuses to trust new tear aways like Umesh and Aaron for fast bowling. Not long ago he was reluctant to try Ashwin even though Harbachan was not delivering the results expected.He is very conserative as a captain and not enterprising. He requires a change in mind set towards youngsters coming up. He is very brave in talking but in action he is very defensive without any inspiration for new recruits

  • POSTED BY VikkuVinakaram on | January 6, 2012, 11:49 GMT

    I sincerely hope the "getting stronger" part is short-lived ... there are so many Indian fans like me who whole-heartedly support the team however are extremely disappointed - not in losing matches - but rather in the way in you lose them ... Looking back I wonder if we really deserved to be No. 1 and all the hype around it ... we are way way behind the rest of the world I guess ... but in cricket (especially in Indian cricket) the memory is short lived .. all it takes is one t20 victory to erase the "memory" of loss ... :-)

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 6, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    "Dhoni said the team needed to take some time off cricket. On that account the team has done well to lose inside four days, giving them extra time away from the cricket".LOL , THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE LOSE ON THE THIRD DAY ITSELF , IT SHOULD HAVE GAVE YOU MORE TIME TO GET AWAY FROM CRICKET .

  • POSTED BY veerakannadiga on | January 6, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Well said Dhoni. hope your words will come true.

  • POSTED BY SagirParkar on | January 6, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    i dont know what Dhoni is talking about here. I'd have thought that bonding ought to have taken place after the England debacle and this team have been together for a fair few years now.. how long do they need to bond ? Dhoni definitely needs to crank up the aggression in the field and not set defensive ODI style fields when your team needs wickets, no matter how good the opposition is batting. you still have to make them work for their runs ! He also needs to take a look at his form with the bat and probably consider Rohit at 6 now. Kohli has had his chances. he even failed against the windies in India in the tests.. i dont mind losing, as long as you put up a fight.. so far, India has wilted in 3 innings and have waited for Australia to declare in Sydney. That to me is defeatist attitude. this needs to change.

  • POSTED BY Sumodh131981 on | January 6, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    You can be stronger only if you learn from your mistakes. Sadly this Indian team does not look like improving. Perth and Shane Watson awaits.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 6, 2012, 11:42 GMT

    " THE GOOD THING WE SAW WAS THE BATSMEN GETTING RUNS IN SECOND INNINGS " . WHAT RUNS ? YOU , SEHWAG & KOHLI WERE OUT IN SINGLE DIGIT SCORES THANKS TO ASHWIN & ZAHEER THAT HELP INDIA MAKE 400 OTHERWISE INDIA WOULD HAVE NEVER PASSED CLARKE 'S INDIVIDUAL SCORE 329 ( NOT OUT) .

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 11:42 GMT

    How about going back home for a few players? and replace them with some young keen fresh faces. Dhoni's captaincy was questionable at times, especially his field placements. He went on the defensive when it was better to attack. The bowlers bowled too short and were not used in short spells. The fundamental difference between Clarke and Dhoni is in their thinking. Clarke inspired his team to do better, his team is not the invincible australian team of the past...leadership is all about leading by example and inspiring...Clarke wins hands down on all counts!!! Sorry Dhoni your time is really up!!!

  • POSTED BY shabbasus on | January 6, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    This is the team which won the worldcup, again at home...whenever india plays abroad, they can't win..it's a simple but true fact..Time has come to put some fresh blood in the side..have rohit sharma in place of kohli and bring back bhajji..Too much reliance on the aging batsmen hasn't done any good too..forget about sachin's 100 -100's , they would only count if india wins...anyways best of luck guys!!

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 6, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    "THIS PHASE WILL MAKE TEAM STRONGER " . YEAH HOW STRONG TEAM HAS BECOME WE HAVE SEEN IT ON THE FIELD . ABSOULTELY NO INTEREST IN MATCH , BOWLERS BOWLING RUBBISH LENGHTS ( ESPECIALLY ISHANT ) , BATSMEN GETTING OUT CHEAPLY . THAT 'S HOW A TEAM GETS STRONG .

  • POSTED BY zuber21886 on | January 6, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    I see a ray of hope and some anger in Indian cricketers which will show in the third test, but this should have been present after first test

  • POSTED BY burleighboy86 on | January 6, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Playing in a losing side either makes or breaks a player. Steve Waugh is the best example of how being in a losing side can strengthen your resolve and determination, and appreciation for a win. Throughout Australia's dominant years, he was the stand alone figure who had played in some tough times in the late 80's. Firstly being a senior member, then more significantly Captain, he instilled a winning determination into HIS team. Together with early failings, his dropping brought about a gritty, rugged style with his wicket his ultimate belonging. When he retired, the side looked that little bit more fragile. Ponting is also a great leader of men, but maybe didn't possess the killer instinct of Steve Waugh. And now we've come to the present. This is a rebuilding phase in more ways than just talent. They need to appreciate a win. Clarke has struggled, been dropped, and also modified his game, not unlike Waugh. He is very astute, and will make an excellent Captain. Has already stepped up

  • POSTED BY baskar_guha on | January 6, 2012, 11:34 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni's assessments. Particularly, the point that we only have Zaheer as a frontline bowler and the others may not even be skilled enough to bowl specific lines to frustrate and contain the batsmen. It may be a mental thing with the bowlers for the same set fared well in Melbourne. Time to move on to Perth and try to do better there. That is the only thing the team can control.

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 6, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    ...The loss of Dravid and Tendulka will be felt big time - again maybe they won't be as hurt in bowling stakes - but then again they are on this tour seeming to rely to much on Zaheer; but I just wonder - the longer these guys insist on playing on the worse it is going to get. Theoretically if India were to bounce back at all it could be the worst thing for them long-term because it would give the administrators, coaches and the captain the perception that everything is fine - when the bubble will have to burst eventually.

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 6, 2012, 11:25 GMT

    The thing going for your team is you have more adequately prepared to fast track and unearth bowlers. When Aus won the Ashes 5 Zip in 2006 the problem there was they were set to loose Glen McGrath & Warne - and also a host of batsmen - so in a sense the whole team was decimated. Lee went to a new level shortly afterwards but when he went to India - he was pretty much destroyed from there on in; although Johnson threatened to go to new heights (winning ICC award)... well we know what happened to him. The decline in Aus was gradual but inevitable. So I think you've wisely gone with youth in bowling stakes Ashwin, Sharma (still young but many games under his belt), Yadav and balanced by experience in Zaheer - so although you don't have quite the same problem as Aus - the quality of Tendulka and Dravid will be felt; perhaps it is fortunate Laxmen is doing mediocre so someone in his place may rectify that. I also wonder about the longevity of Zaheer. He is not too old but his fitness?

  • POSTED BY rohanm79 on | January 6, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    Sorry I disagree with you saying that the batting effort from the Indians was in a less easier environment....i am sure i read somewhere that the (from Clarke) that the one thing about Australian bowling was the consistency...

    You could also say that the opposition having been bowled out for a meagre score gave a more relaxed environment for the Australian's to do their batting...but then this doesnt really fly does it?

  • POSTED BY TheSaviour on | January 6, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    "You are not destined to only win". Agreed, but Six straight Losses suffered by a team who was No 1 Test Team a year before demands some serious explanation

  • POSTED BY Juniorklassy on | January 6, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Well Said Dhoni.. all is not lost yet..!! we are still capable of a comeback, just what we need is some patience , application , Confidence from our batsmen...!! i hope its gonna b 2-2... & we will make the best comeback of All time.. ! Kome on..

  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    well...lets see.....since dhoni has said this.....i am least bothered about the result of the series, it may b 0-4 at the end i dont care..... would like to keep an eye on his captaincy and also the team willingness to win, for the next two tests, to see what they have learnt, if the same performance continues then dhoni is being over optimistic for sure......

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  • POSTED BY on | January 6, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    well...lets see.....since dhoni has said this.....i am least bothered about the result of the series, it may b 0-4 at the end i dont care..... would like to keep an eye on his captaincy and also the team willingness to win, for the next two tests, to see what they have learnt, if the same performance continues then dhoni is being over optimistic for sure......

  • POSTED BY Juniorklassy on | January 6, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Well Said Dhoni.. all is not lost yet..!! we are still capable of a comeback, just what we need is some patience , application , Confidence from our batsmen...!! i hope its gonna b 2-2... & we will make the best comeback of All time.. ! Kome on..

  • POSTED BY TheSaviour on | January 6, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    "You are not destined to only win". Agreed, but Six straight Losses suffered by a team who was No 1 Test Team a year before demands some serious explanation

  • POSTED BY rohanm79 on | January 6, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    Sorry I disagree with you saying that the batting effort from the Indians was in a less easier environment....i am sure i read somewhere that the (from Clarke) that the one thing about Australian bowling was the consistency...

    You could also say that the opposition having been bowled out for a meagre score gave a more relaxed environment for the Australian's to do their batting...but then this doesnt really fly does it?

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 6, 2012, 11:25 GMT

    The thing going for your team is you have more adequately prepared to fast track and unearth bowlers. When Aus won the Ashes 5 Zip in 2006 the problem there was they were set to loose Glen McGrath & Warne - and also a host of batsmen - so in a sense the whole team was decimated. Lee went to a new level shortly afterwards but when he went to India - he was pretty much destroyed from there on in; although Johnson threatened to go to new heights (winning ICC award)... well we know what happened to him. The decline in Aus was gradual but inevitable. So I think you've wisely gone with youth in bowling stakes Ashwin, Sharma (still young but many games under his belt), Yadav and balanced by experience in Zaheer - so although you don't have quite the same problem as Aus - the quality of Tendulka and Dravid will be felt; perhaps it is fortunate Laxmen is doing mediocre so someone in his place may rectify that. I also wonder about the longevity of Zaheer. He is not too old but his fitness?

  • POSTED BY AidanFX on | January 6, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    ...The loss of Dravid and Tendulka will be felt big time - again maybe they won't be as hurt in bowling stakes - but then again they are on this tour seeming to rely to much on Zaheer; but I just wonder - the longer these guys insist on playing on the worse it is going to get. Theoretically if India were to bounce back at all it could be the worst thing for them long-term because it would give the administrators, coaches and the captain the perception that everything is fine - when the bubble will have to burst eventually.

  • POSTED BY baskar_guha on | January 6, 2012, 11:34 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni's assessments. Particularly, the point that we only have Zaheer as a frontline bowler and the others may not even be skilled enough to bowl specific lines to frustrate and contain the batsmen. It may be a mental thing with the bowlers for the same set fared well in Melbourne. Time to move on to Perth and try to do better there. That is the only thing the team can control.

  • POSTED BY burleighboy86 on | January 6, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Playing in a losing side either makes or breaks a player. Steve Waugh is the best example of how being in a losing side can strengthen your resolve and determination, and appreciation for a win. Throughout Australia's dominant years, he was the stand alone figure who had played in some tough times in the late 80's. Firstly being a senior member, then more significantly Captain, he instilled a winning determination into HIS team. Together with early failings, his dropping brought about a gritty, rugged style with his wicket his ultimate belonging. When he retired, the side looked that little bit more fragile. Ponting is also a great leader of men, but maybe didn't possess the killer instinct of Steve Waugh. And now we've come to the present. This is a rebuilding phase in more ways than just talent. They need to appreciate a win. Clarke has struggled, been dropped, and also modified his game, not unlike Waugh. He is very astute, and will make an excellent Captain. Has already stepped up

  • POSTED BY zuber21886 on | January 6, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    I see a ray of hope and some anger in Indian cricketers which will show in the third test, but this should have been present after first test

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | January 6, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    "THIS PHASE WILL MAKE TEAM STRONGER " . YEAH HOW STRONG TEAM HAS BECOME WE HAVE SEEN IT ON THE FIELD . ABSOULTELY NO INTEREST IN MATCH , BOWLERS BOWLING RUBBISH LENGHTS ( ESPECIALLY ISHANT ) , BATSMEN GETTING OUT CHEAPLY . THAT 'S HOW A TEAM GETS STRONG .