Australia v India, 2nd Test, Sydney, 4th day January 6, 2012

The dream is dead

India's three stalwarts will never win a Test series in Australia. How broken they must feel
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It's all over, as Bill Lawry would say. Sachin Tendulkar: 22 years of international cricket, five Test tours to Australia. Rahul Dravid: close to 16 years of international cricket, four tours to Australia. VVS Laxman: same as Dravid. They will never win a Test series in Australia. How broken the three must feel. Australia, the land that loved them and also broke their hearts, had to be part of reason they kept going at their age.

Australia, the big tease. Australia, where they came within three wickets or an enforced follow-on of winning a series in 2003-04. Australia, where they played the most bitter Test in recent memory but couldn't bat out two sessions and a bit. Australia, where Tendulkar is closing in on 2000 runs at an average of 58, where both Laxman and Dravid have more than 1000 at averages of over 45. Australia, where they shall never win a Test series.

The dream didn't even reach Perth. It sounds more natural when Lawry says, "It's all over at the WACA," as opposed to, "It's all over at the SCG". Well, it was tragicomic in the end, with the Indian tail swinging and reaching scores that have now become milestones for this side. Three hundred was almost slow-clap-worthy. Three fifty surprising. Four hundred unbelievable.

It gave you time to forget empathising. To stop wondering what the three would be going through, how they would be taking this. Later on, though, you did. You realised that - and you knew it for a while - the end is near. That the three might not have enough left in them to make it to late 2013, when India start playing away Tests again. They only come to Australia in 2014-15. For non-Australian players of this era, the World Cup and Australia tours have been the big motivation, the events they build up to. Brian Lara managed to win one series here, Jacques Kallis too.

Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman came here this final time with their best pre-series chance of winning. Two weeks in, the chance is no more. They were part of the reason this team was expected to do well. They have seen the team through the worst times. Times when the team wasn't even expected to compete outside India. They played a part in turning the team around. They went through disappointment and despair to finally see a time when they could actually be expected to win matches abroad.

They played a big part in this disappointment too. How they must be cursing themselves. Laxman scored 2, 1 and 2 in his first three innings. Dravid was not the Dravid of the last year, but fought to score a fifty at the MCG. He has been bowled thrice in this series. Tendulkar has looked in glorious touch, but was dismissed at the worst times. They are known for converting starts into big innings, for grinding the opposition down. Not a single century between them. Today, though, even the most hard-nosed analyst would have felt bad for them. Sport doesn't.

The Melbourne Test was within their grasp on three occasions, but they watched it slip: twice in the field, once through their collapse. Dravid dropped a catch, too. It was the bad old days of Indian cricket coming back. Too often in the recent past India have been napping at big moments in Tests.

The despair was reminiscent of their disappointment in beautiful Cape Town when, a year to the day, India let South Africa escape through defensive fields and uninspired bowling. The three saw their last chance of winning a series there disappear then. At least they came close then. At least Laxman made a big contribution in the previous Test. At least Tendulkar scored a superlative hundred against a red-hot Dale Steyn at Newlands.

At least India drew the series in South Africa. Here it will take a miracle for India to even come close to drawing the series. In all likelihood the three will have to live with the fact that their teams never played good enough cricket for long enough periods to win series in Australia and South Africa.

Trying to draw this series 2-2 and retaining the Border-Gavaskar Trophy will keep them going. Life will go on as well. In fact it already has. An hour or so after the defeat in Sydney, the BCCI released the next IPL schedule, a whopping 53-day event. It's all over.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Mitcher on January 9, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    @  Karthikayan T: yourself and a portion of your countrymen seem a little confused. Yes, Australia have a bad record in India. Not overseas in general. We all know India demolish opposition at home. That's the point. But they are significantly worse in almost every other country. Australia, even in a rebuilding phase, can't match the hopelessness of India abroad.

  • on January 9, 2012, 3:44 GMT

    Indian Team Performance always bad in overseas condition as bad as Bangladesh test team. Indian team is lion on Indian soil but wet cat at overseas venues.

    This is bitter truth.

  • cloudmess on January 9, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    I don't think the gulf between the two teams is that big, and I wouldn't be surprised if India came back to win at least one of the last two tests. But India have been horribly let down by some ultra-conservative tactics in the past 6 months, both here and in England. I fear some of this is down to having appointed the notoriously cautious Duncan Fletcher- a great coach of mediocre teams, and vice versa - at a time when India were riding so high.

  • donda on January 9, 2012, 2:06 GMT

    Oh it seems like Agneepath series has gone into agnee. Media always make things look bigger. It's ok to lose a series , it's ok to retire , it's ok to not win outside your home. Every team do that. What were every body expecting that australia at their home under new captain will allow india to win a series easily , ah never.

    Winning a series in australia is most difficult part of cricket and that's why england is #1 team because they won it last time but not again in next 20 years i bet.

    Aussies are so hard to beat at home just like a sumo wrestler. I hope to see good ODI series this time around and finally sachin gets his 100 100 and retire.

    No bad feeling, it's part of cricket, australia deserve series win and every body should accept it that no team can emulate what australia did in last 10 years. It was twice in 100 years history making thing. Not gonna happen again in years by any other team.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 9, 2012, 2:03 GMT

    @Raminder_Bali, ROFL....Hilarious....can't stop laughing at your terse comment. Very well said...hahahaha...

  • OutCast on January 9, 2012, 1:59 GMT

    Look at the Indian surge... I mean, they play more home games than outside... India play more minnows than mighty giants... India play on flat tracks and collect mountain of runs- which is PHONY... if India start playing for team victory, they may start winning cupla games, but every Indian on the team is playing for their individual place on the team... except Sachin- who is playing for his own record ha hahah... Look at Clarke, if Clarke was on Indian team he would've kept going until he broke Lara's 400 mark, but in Aus it doesn't happen...

  • Stevo_ on January 9, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    Indian cricket protect Sachin to a huge degree - no fielding, no press conference, no captaincy, preparing pitches for him to score on. So no reason he can't play on and on and on and on when he has the BCCI protecting him. SAid it before and I'll say it again - the majority of Indian cricket fans , aren't cricket fans they are Sachin fans and the BCCI know this and need to protect their $$

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    First of all let me say that this doesn't change anything for any of those three. There's always some record, that is out there that a player doesn't achieve. Ponting wanted to win Three WC, Sachin wanted to score a century at Lords, Lara to score a century in India, and the list goes on. Its the press, public, and editors that come up with such things. For example, Sachins scoring 100 centuries. How is that even important, rather they should focus on 50 century in Tests and ODI, which the latter should be more important.

  • shahzaibq on January 8, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    I would like to see the Indian fans on this site who had predicted a series win for India... They had the illusion that Australia was on the decline, and this would be the time to catch them off guard. What they forgot was that Australia's second choice bowlers were better than India's first choice bowlers. The reason that India was number one was because they were good at home. That does not make a champion team. Neither does constantly playing a sub-par team like Sri Lanka. The Big 3 are still the best hope and replacing them will be tough, but India needs to pro-actively take that step, even if it means a slip in their rankings, lost series, etc. They're losing them anyway; why not do it with zealous, eager youngsters! Dhoni's captaincy record has been pure luck. Anyone who has the Big 3 + Sehwag and a confident Bhajji, will be a successful captain. The same could be said of Ponting with McGrath, Warne, Gilly, but he was aggressive, looking for wins instead of avoiding defeats.

  • C97Adnan on January 8, 2012, 21:59 GMT

    India can't win outside of their soil.They may be champion at home. I donot consider Kholi as star making why selector still giving him chance. That's enough. India has to play outside their soil to judge talent. I have seen Pakistan bringing back to track atleast learn from them my dear selector and coach.

  • Mitcher on January 9, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    @  Karthikayan T: yourself and a portion of your countrymen seem a little confused. Yes, Australia have a bad record in India. Not overseas in general. We all know India demolish opposition at home. That's the point. But they are significantly worse in almost every other country. Australia, even in a rebuilding phase, can't match the hopelessness of India abroad.

  • on January 9, 2012, 3:44 GMT

    Indian Team Performance always bad in overseas condition as bad as Bangladesh test team. Indian team is lion on Indian soil but wet cat at overseas venues.

    This is bitter truth.

  • cloudmess on January 9, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    I don't think the gulf between the two teams is that big, and I wouldn't be surprised if India came back to win at least one of the last two tests. But India have been horribly let down by some ultra-conservative tactics in the past 6 months, both here and in England. I fear some of this is down to having appointed the notoriously cautious Duncan Fletcher- a great coach of mediocre teams, and vice versa - at a time when India were riding so high.

  • donda on January 9, 2012, 2:06 GMT

    Oh it seems like Agneepath series has gone into agnee. Media always make things look bigger. It's ok to lose a series , it's ok to retire , it's ok to not win outside your home. Every team do that. What were every body expecting that australia at their home under new captain will allow india to win a series easily , ah never.

    Winning a series in australia is most difficult part of cricket and that's why england is #1 team because they won it last time but not again in next 20 years i bet.

    Aussies are so hard to beat at home just like a sumo wrestler. I hope to see good ODI series this time around and finally sachin gets his 100 100 and retire.

    No bad feeling, it's part of cricket, australia deserve series win and every body should accept it that no team can emulate what australia did in last 10 years. It was twice in 100 years history making thing. Not gonna happen again in years by any other team.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 9, 2012, 2:03 GMT

    @Raminder_Bali, ROFL....Hilarious....can't stop laughing at your terse comment. Very well said...hahahaha...

  • OutCast on January 9, 2012, 1:59 GMT

    Look at the Indian surge... I mean, they play more home games than outside... India play more minnows than mighty giants... India play on flat tracks and collect mountain of runs- which is PHONY... if India start playing for team victory, they may start winning cupla games, but every Indian on the team is playing for their individual place on the team... except Sachin- who is playing for his own record ha hahah... Look at Clarke, if Clarke was on Indian team he would've kept going until he broke Lara's 400 mark, but in Aus it doesn't happen...

  • Stevo_ on January 9, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    Indian cricket protect Sachin to a huge degree - no fielding, no press conference, no captaincy, preparing pitches for him to score on. So no reason he can't play on and on and on and on when he has the BCCI protecting him. SAid it before and I'll say it again - the majority of Indian cricket fans , aren't cricket fans they are Sachin fans and the BCCI know this and need to protect their $$

  • on January 9, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    First of all let me say that this doesn't change anything for any of those three. There's always some record, that is out there that a player doesn't achieve. Ponting wanted to win Three WC, Sachin wanted to score a century at Lords, Lara to score a century in India, and the list goes on. Its the press, public, and editors that come up with such things. For example, Sachins scoring 100 centuries. How is that even important, rather they should focus on 50 century in Tests and ODI, which the latter should be more important.

  • shahzaibq on January 8, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    I would like to see the Indian fans on this site who had predicted a series win for India... They had the illusion that Australia was on the decline, and this would be the time to catch them off guard. What they forgot was that Australia's second choice bowlers were better than India's first choice bowlers. The reason that India was number one was because they were good at home. That does not make a champion team. Neither does constantly playing a sub-par team like Sri Lanka. The Big 3 are still the best hope and replacing them will be tough, but India needs to pro-actively take that step, even if it means a slip in their rankings, lost series, etc. They're losing them anyway; why not do it with zealous, eager youngsters! Dhoni's captaincy record has been pure luck. Anyone who has the Big 3 + Sehwag and a confident Bhajji, will be a successful captain. The same could be said of Ponting with McGrath, Warne, Gilly, but he was aggressive, looking for wins instead of avoiding defeats.

  • C97Adnan on January 8, 2012, 21:59 GMT

    India can't win outside of their soil.They may be champion at home. I donot consider Kholi as star making why selector still giving him chance. That's enough. India has to play outside their soil to judge talent. I have seen Pakistan bringing back to track atleast learn from them my dear selector and coach.

  • on January 8, 2012, 21:31 GMT

    I wonder what will happen to Indian team when these 4 old horses will retire?

    54 days of IPL!!!!!! wow !!!!!!!...!!India's Test cricket future is all over for sure.

  • BKamalJeet on January 8, 2012, 18:50 GMT

    totally agree with jonathonjosephs comments

  • on January 8, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    I cant read this ... :( Wish these three could have enough energy left in them to come back for the next tour.. i know m being sarcastic..but hey...that what an die hard Indian cricket fan is all about.. :)

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    Blaming Dhoni & Co for yet another fiasco on foreign soil is banal, please let me know when we dominated in foreign soil ! There is famous saying "Old men decide to war & young ones bleed", BCCI has to change it's policy & invest/focus more on Test cricket.We have never mastered playing in swing/bounce and we never will unless we make some changes to domestic circuit.The achievements of this team till now has been due to the fact of individual's commitment - Sachin,Dravid, Laxman & Khan. No testimony required for Sehwag's talent but the way he gets out is audacious, the best part he gets away saying that's the way he plays !!! Virat's footwork is open invitation for LBW,the attitude he flaunts should have never made Indian team.BCCI seriously needs to visit the amount of cricket we play, prepare sporting wickets in domestic cricket, high time we have bowling coach, preferably from SA(Fanie De Villiers,Allan Donald),& five men bowling attack should be really thought about.

  • oneNOnly_Sachin on January 8, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    and for the recent past.. last year he was the International Cricketer of the year.. if some of his runs has not won matches.. its the rest of the team to be blamed.. yes it must be painful for the greatest batsman of all time(let alone batsman one of the greatest men of all time) to be surrounded by such mediocrity.. he must be pained that he never got support.. he must be pained that he battled his mind,body,family,most of his life to take burden for making a billion people happy everytime he goes out to bat.. and the same guys not even able to let him take his call.. It so difficult to even make 5 people in a family happy.. This guy has made a at least a million people happy everytime he is out on the field.. and he has delivered... for 22 long years.. incredible to say the least.. Its hard to have that mandate.. Its hard to be Sachin Tendulkar.. I absolutely with him.. and will be with him for he has given me more smiles.. more happiness than anyone else.. Thanks Sachin

  • on January 8, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    If Rahul Dravid was not in the team, all the test matches in England would had ended in 3 days.

  • oneNOnly_Sachin on January 8, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    and about the youngsters you want to try out..there have been many who have come and gone.. neither any one of them has the temperament to last in test cricket nor the technique to survive on lively pitches..they only have short tempers... include Sehwag and Dhoni to that list as well.. these are just flat pitch guys.. and who says they have not been given chances.. Sachin tendulkar was 16years old when he saved a test match for India in England scoring a hundred coming at number 6.. he was 18 when he hit a hundred 100 at perth with the last batsmen.. batting at number 6... he was 25 when he battled a back pain.. and wickets falling at the other end to score an epic 136 against pakistan.. when last 4 batsman failed to score last 17 runs... he was 25 when he single handedly won around 6-7 series for india in 1998.. and in his 30s he took India to the WC 2003 final again mostly all alone.. won the last CB series in Australia.. many many other matches.. that is what Sachin Tendulkar is..

  • oneNOnly_Sachin on January 8, 2012, 16:54 GMT

    the criticism would have been there even he got out otherwise... in the next innings he got out to a mistake.. in the 1st innings in SCG he was playing supreme and seeing everyone get out at the other end.. and he played out trying a shot.. in the 2nd innings he slowed down because the new ball was due in 5 overs..and there was a long deficit.. and India had to bat for a day and ahalf and not 20 overs to save the match.. and if he would have got out while trying to play a shot.. the criticism would have been why he did that when the need was to save the match.. so there is no end.. and for the useless who question his commitment and say he is playing for money.. just one statement he can earn more if he stops playing.. and he already has enough.. he is the one who came back a day after his father's death to play for the team.. he is at a stage where no has ever been and neither will anyone ever be.. He stands unique and the one and only.. continuing..

  • oneNOnly_Sachin on January 8, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    Going thorugh each of the comments.. calling for the head of Sachin.. the only feeling one gets is the frustration of the mediocre... contradiction at every place.. all say what use are the runs if it cannot win a match.. and int he next line they say its a team game so why cherish individual achivements.. how in a team game the person who has tried the hardest.. scored the must runs when every one around him failed is the one to fault.. absolutely ridiculous.. people are saying he is chasing his 100th that;s why slowing down when he nears the hundred.. I think they are blind eyed.. against WI when he was 67 NO overnight.. he started with a six.. closed to 94 in a matter of 15 mins.. he dint get out poking.. but just the he was playing another shot and the ball rised a bit.. the next 73 at MCG another chanceless innings.. he slowed down not for his century but just to see that over off as that was the last over of the day.. continuing..

  • Nampally on January 8, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas: When you talk about the Howlers, in the MCG test, during the big winning partnership of Ponting & Hussey, Cricinfo write up clearly reported that TWO LBW decisions against Hussey & one caught behind(on the leg side) + one LBW against Ponting (at 15) were not given by the Umpire. Hussey got about 90 & Ponting got about 70. These came out of Hawk eye review. So even if the first innings decisions went against Cowan & Hussey, they were doubly compensated. Also Ashwin was wrongly adjudged LBW.The Hussey- Ponting partnership won the MCG for the Aussies. DRS would have righted these nevertheless they were Umpiring howlers. So guys who criticised you need to consider these favourable decisions that won the match for the Aussies.

  • on January 8, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    The comments against Dravid cannot be digested!!! I firmly believe that India can even manage without Sachin but not without Dravid, or at least someone like him!!!!

  • NALINWIJ on January 8, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    The old stalwarts may have one last trick but apart from Sachin this will be getting less frequent and is delaying the development of the younger group and why can"'t the bowling and fielding step up to make them competitive. Zaheer is causing problems to the top 3 left handers and Yadav showed promise. Sadly the Aussies are finding cracks in the WALL of DRAVID.

  • RSBali on January 8, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    There was no dream in first place. It was a mirage created by the media in India which has now turned into a nightmare.

  • Capt.Hilts on January 8, 2012, 14:35 GMT

    Fans are under illusion that India was no.1 Test side. It was rankings, scheduling and timing. India played 3 to 4 Test Series in span of 2 years against SL, winning 2 or 3 of them, which boosted their rankings. FTP only calls for 2 series ever 4 years. They won NZ away series and home series. They drew SA away series, but they also drew two SA series at home (pretty bad for dominating no.1). They won Eng away and home when Eng were pretty weak that what they are now. They struggled to win WI home and away (shouldn't be case for no.1 and no.8 teams). They won 2 Aus home series, which only is the best achievement in period they became no.1. But the Aus side they beat twice at home was thrashed by SA, NZ, Eng at home. They became no.1, by playing numerous series against SL, playing others mostly at home and ofcourse because other teams were poor in that period. If one goes by current teams, Aus, Eng, SA are ahead of India and India would have to compete with SL for place 4.

  • on January 8, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    What a beauty of an article.Absolutely Superb. and True :(

  • Morfi on January 8, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    "An hour or so after the defeat in Sydney, the BCCI released the next IPL schedule, a whopping 53-day event. It's all over." Fitting end to a brilliant piece...! Instead of finding fault in the 3 players who have been the servants of Indian cricket and are even now, the BCCI should realise what damage the IPL is doing to world cricket at large and Indian cricket in particular. It is all about the money now!!

  • on January 8, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    When evils like IPL is around how could you dream about else. Until that IPL is killed you can't dream. This Team India is IPL servant and completely unfit and useless to play International Cricket or Test Cricket. IPL has taken betting to highest level. IPL is not a Cricketing event it is a worst commerical event. Team India and BCCI is completely focussed on IPL. Because of IPL, Team India is losing skill, inspiration, motivation and fitness to play Test Cricket. These curators, coaches and BCCI officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in other tournaments. IPL is completely meaningless and obsolete Tournament. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch between Countries unlike IPL Teams which look like clubs. Test Cricket is ultimate to watch on sportive pitches. But IPL is making these pitches Lifeless.

  • spin_king4 on January 8, 2012, 11:18 GMT

    i don't get indian fan's you turn on your player sp quickly (that is every player that isn't sachin). I cant believe most of you are calling for dravid the leading run scorer of 2011 for india and all of test cricket, and the only indian batsmen to show he can still score on overseas wickets (3 centuries in england; none by any other batsmen on tour) + anoter on a tough wicket in windies yet all of the fan on hear will call for dravid's blood aying he is passed his best while at the same time explaining how they think this will not be tendulkar's last test series in aus becaue he still has got it. i'm not trying to be anti tendulkar but please look at the fact on current form if of the big three the if you ere going to drop 2 a so many are suggesting on their recent preformance it would have to be 1t laxman and 2nd tendulkar a dravid i the only one in the last 12 months that has hown the ability to preform for the team when the going i tough.

  • bismoy on January 8, 2012, 10:39 GMT

    selector please drop dravid...He is pretender in name of wall.

  • bismoy on January 8, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    Sachin will play till 2015 he is best...Rahul is overhyped and should have been dropped in year 2007.

    With rahul in team one drop catch is expected .He avg 30 vs SA in SA and 40 against Aus in Aus.

    His played well when mcgrath and warne didn't played in 2003.

  • RandyOZ on January 8, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    Sidharth I am usually not a fan of your articles but this piece was brilliantly written. To the point and exactly the kick up the backside the fans and the BCCI need. Kudos mate.

  • on January 8, 2012, 10:16 GMT

    I agree with comments that say that Monga is mistaken these guys care about never winning in Australia. They don't think one bit about it. I am sure they like someone like Monga showing that they care. Specially Dravid seems to be completely disappointed with the whole BCCI (IPL) system, and goes along with it.

  • joseyesu on January 8, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    First of all they won't dream, it is we dream as like they. All three better retire for teams cause. If you cannot play then least is expected from Kohli, Gambir, Ashwin, Yadav. No longer we can expect century partnership. Gone are eden and Sydney's and we become mad after the first 2 test.

  • on January 8, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    India was paying the ICC to stay # uno, something must have gone wrong after the WC????????

  • Rahul_78 on January 8, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    There is still some life left in the old warhorses Sidharth. Irrespective of how hopeless it is looking at the moment and obituaries of the great Indian batting lineup has been written by most..I still see these stalwarts pulling one last trick out of the hat and then at least 1 if not 2 out of these 3 bowing out of test cricket after the OZ tour. Hope floats...!

  • KALPANA. on January 8, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    @team india.. please understand that its not as if the fans only like you when you win. we fans want to see our team fight hard.. make the opposition sweat.. try and make them nervous.. "AS ANIL KUMBLE DID ALL HIS LIFE". i can happily accept team india's loss in the series if i feel they really fought hard. but all what fans like me get from team india is sloppiness. just not what they should play like in australia. we all know that team india will lose this series. atleast they must show their toughest face to team australia in the remaining tests. good luck team india.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 8, 2012, 7:39 GMT

    I remember before this series even started, Indian fans were claiming a 2-1 victory or a 2-0, or even a 3-1. But now look at the reality. The major mistake of the Indian failure is MS Dhoni. I have been saying this for almost 2 years now, but Dhoni is not a good captain in Tests. His field placings were unbearable. Even Ravi Shastri, who never fails to defend his team, couldn't believe Dhoni's field placings and openly criticized him (along with other Aussie commentators). If Dhoni had lost the WC, he wouldn't even be in the Test Team and would make way for Parthiv or Karthik

  • on January 8, 2012, 7:14 GMT

    I just would like to say that indian players no more hungry for success in recent past. Lots of old players have achieved fame, money and personel achievemrnt. If you think india is the best team because of world champion i am not agree. India has good batsmans that's all.They dont have match winning bowlers. India need to make match winning balance combination of team (should be young and experience). Last thing i would like to mention that do not give them so much money for nothing. If indian team think they are world champion they have to prove other wise it was just happened.

  • on January 8, 2012, 6:59 GMT

    It is alright. Let Dravid and Laxman just answer their critics with good score this series. Needn't win the series and let the incompetent Dhoni take all the credit for all the efforts taken by the three greats.

  • on January 8, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    as fan of those cricketers have sympathy for them that they have not won any series in south africa & australia but this point of time their time is up now and they themselves hang thier boots. and make way to youngsters. as most of aussies were do because they are to getting aged now

  • Dono68 on January 8, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    Great article. It just goes to show how great, and humbling, the game of cricket is. You can't have it your way for much of the time - you can't take anything for granted. For the greatest of all batsman, a final innings of four runs proved illusive. For another great batsman, 100 hundreds, once a certainty, hangs out there like a mirage. A great game is always bigger than its champions.

  • on January 8, 2012, 5:44 GMT

    I don't understand how everyone has so many doubts on whether India deserved the no.1 position in tests! There was a ranking system defined for it and they won the necessary games to be qualified for it and they earned it and deserve it in every damn way! As simple as that! When something goes wrong, people love to question every damn thing! And as far as the inability to play in overseas conditions goes, Australia toured India in 2008 for a 4 test series and in 2010 for a 2 test series. On both occasions, the Indians beat the Aussies 2-0! Then let's first say the Aussies are incapable of playing in overseas conditions before commenting on the Indian team!!

  • on January 8, 2012, 4:48 GMT

    I used to think that cricket is only for people with mere skill to battle the toughest bowlers with grace and timing. it seems very odd to see people like dhoni who can never ever play a proper defense or foot work to be leading a test team. why did hitting the ball out of the park with mere luck of connecting the ball with a wood became a yard stick of how well a player can bat? cricket has become a mere entertainment and in that aspect i would say the dream is dead. Do any one know why every one in austrailia gives a standing ovation to master? it is just because people have real good sense of watching cricket. they know how well some one has performed over the years and what kind of cricket they have played. if we loose a test match its not because of sachin failing to score a superb ton. its because we can never ever produce a fast bowler. its bowlers who win matches. even if you score 10000 runs if you cannot pick up 10 wickets you cannot win the game.

  • rohanm79 on January 8, 2012, 4:38 GMT

    @henchart - why dont you worry about your ageing stars like Ponting and let us worry whom we choose to represent us...You could also teach sportsmanship to your aussie cricketers who need a lesson in manners

  • on January 8, 2012, 4:34 GMT

    I don't think any of these three need to give way to any one at the moment. its none of any ones business to ask some one to retire. after playing for such a long time they know 200 % better than what we ignorant people will ever know. if ponting can score a ton after 2 years and he can stay in CA team why can't our players stay when they are scoring consistently every other match. why don't we look at our bowling attack? why can't we produce a genuine fast bowler? tests are not won because of mere batting. any team in a test match spends more time together when they are bowling. if the bowlers cannot do the job then any team is bound to loose the match. austrailia won not because of there 650 but restricting india to under 650 in both the innings. No body has the right to blame the three. why don't you ask dhoni to win test match for india? why don't you ask sehwag who failed miserably in austrailia? why don't you ask ishant sharma why he played when he knew he is not at all fit?

  • cricket_wins on January 8, 2012, 3:59 GMT

    CONSISTENCY and DISCIPLINE (consistency in performance, including winning and discipline in bowling, batting and fielding) - this is what we lack. This is not easy to achieve for the Indian team, so let us accept that such performances are the norm. In fact, wins are a flash in the pan. Keep expectations low.

  • posybeon123 on January 8, 2012, 3:06 GMT

    is this guy a indian or not?

  • RK.Chandru on January 8, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    Grooming of fresh talent should be done in a phased manner and not completely. Does anyone believe, the Pujaras, Rohits,Badris and the Kohlis are anywhere near the class of the Tendulkars, Laxmans and Dravids? I'm afraid, NO! No doubt, problem with India right now is only the batting and with such paltry scores in the kitty even the finest bowlers' morale will be dented. Let the openers first give the team a solid start. Let Mr. Sehwang learn to respect the opposition's bowling and learn to play a longer innings instead of a quick 30 or 40. Let Gambhir be shown the exit doors. Virat and Dhoni stand exposed and instead of wasting time with Kohli, let Rohit be tried. And finally, do not blame as if we lost only because Laxman failed to score big. Just because, he doesn't have a backing and he's an easy meat to point all your fingers...

  • on January 8, 2012, 0:40 GMT

    I think India is making Australia look good, their ranking fifth is about right. They have some good young bowlers coming through but the batting looks weak. The consistent batting performers for Australia in the last two tests have been Ponting,Hussey and Clarke all on the wrong side of thirty.Ponting and Hussey have been exposed by good bowlers for the last two years. The toothless Indian bowlers would struggle to bowl out a club side. They have just made Clarke who is nothing more than a good batsman look like Bradman.

  • .Raina on January 8, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    It has always been a mystery 'how India as a country' operates, and succeeds in many ways. It is the same when the things do not fall in place and there are failures. It is, of course, the same with IND cricket team. Let us hope the bad patch has ended for now and we will see a 'New India' (again by chance only) at Perth. The fans will again be behind them, and we will again ignore & forget the in-adequacies of the team (those need to be addressed).Long Live India, and its mysteries....!!!!

  • on January 7, 2012, 21:10 GMT

    Still I have some hope left in Trimurti but I can't keep it a long way.Either they should give their best shot or hang their shoes as early as possible. We have young players in waiting like Pujara, Rohit, Raina, Kohli and few others. We should start rebuild the team and give these young players a fair chance. I have no grievances from sachin, Dravid, VVS. They had done enough to feel proud us in past. we should infuse young blood to boost the team's overall energy. I just observed that England and Aussies bowlers were well prepared to encounter our batsmen, they were most of the time hitting good length and line for longer periods without giving enough loose balls, even you defend many good balls and just missed ones that used to take wicket. In my opinion our batsmen should start to play for draw and as they see opposition team get bored of us, use this moment to attack on them. opposition team is using our positive stroke play against us, bowling just outside off stump area.

  • akmal786786 on January 7, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    U Indian fans who'd be accept that India never won the any kind of matches out side of India so plz don't mind bcz u people must watch that kind of result in future again again

  • on January 7, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    Indian team needs major changes. First of all, sack Dhoni from captaincy. He gives up the game even before the game begins. This is worse attitude I've ever seen. I wouldn't mind if he tried and failed, but not trying because of possible failure is just unacceptable. A captain should give confidence to his bowlers by setting attacking field. Look how Clarke set up field for his bowlers on a flat track. Second change is to remove the big three from test side. Sachin looks to have great technique, rest do not. None of them is making big scores. It was painful to to watch sachin blocking everything once he got beyond 70. Quest for personal achievement should not cost a team the game. Bring the new boys in. They will fail in the beginning, never mind. Aussies failed too, but now they look all set to bring back the 90-00's glory.

  • on January 7, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    Three players can never win a series because you need a team effort to win. In last four or five tours they was never a team effort .

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 7, 2012, 20:02 GMT

    Although I am not a HUGE fan of Aussie mentality or their ARTIFICIAL nationalism... I am however an ardent admirer of their sporting sincerity. As athletes.. there are very few nationalities in the world that come close to Australians. Perhaps the Americans, the Chinese and Russians are in the same league. They are passionate about their countries. The will to win at any cost is ripe in their blood. SORRY but Indians DON'T have that... in ANY aspect of sports. Indians usually play the game for the sake of participation and representation. India are NEVER known to be good in any sport. Such is the case with the cricketers too. Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are past their prime YET we don't have a suitable replacement for these guys. This shows the BOLLYWOOD style situation our country finds itself in. Our youngsters see money and cheerleaders instead of white clothing and test caps. The next test team of India will be at the bottom of the table. Mark my words.. we need a MIRACLE.

  • zuber21886 on January 7, 2012, 19:40 GMT

    the last line the punch line!!

  • NaniIndCri on January 7, 2012, 19:12 GMT

    I don't understand why people have to bring IPL every time they write a column. Of course the life will continue whether India wins or not. Why do people not criticize Big Bash for Aussies performance before? It has been 9 months since IPL and if these pundits think IPL is reason for every loss then they might want to think another career. If any player gets injured its IPL, If any teams loose its IPL. I wonder why players like Pattinson and Cummins are injured? Oh I know they thought of playing IPL. Introspection is necessary but not with precognitions. Also the pundits do not have solutions either, what do they want? Cancel the IPL? guess what that's not going to happen.

  • on January 7, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    What if their dream didn't reach Perth..? They made their mark on the planet earth!!

  • on January 7, 2012, 18:44 GMT

    Dream is Dead? When was it alive? India has been playing Tests against Australia in Australia from 1948. 64 years and still no series victory. No possibility of winning a series from here now. Just dream that the nightmare doesn't happen. Another whitewash. Oh, forgot- the second successive whitewash overseas? When did that last (ever happen) to a team.

    Wake Up Team India. This is the Indian Team- not a Bollywood plot

  • knan on January 7, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    Dhoni as a captain is not aggressive enough to turn things around. His approach was ok under Indian conditions where the bowling was strong enough to bowl-out the opposition. But under alien conditions he should make things happen instead of playing a waiting game . Ganguly was good at it and in the present team Gambhir would have been the ideal captaincy material, if only his batting had not fallen away. I would certainly play Rohit in the next match and drop Kohli . Even VVS who was never good at horizontal bat shots should be dropped for Perth. A player like Parthiv would have been a better bet but in his absence it is worthwhile to try out Rahane. Also BCCI needs to review its contract with Eric Simmons in view of the dismal performance of the fast bowlers. If he could not help the fast bowlers under helpful conditions in England and here in Australia, it is better to let him go. SRT is playing well but his age is showing up. Failure of the openers is causing a big problem

  • on January 7, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    I am not sure if harsh and pitiful words - "How broken the three must feel" - are going to offer any encouragement to anybody. It is not even a fair assessment of their emotions as players. It must not be forgotten that, no matter how they perform, their single motivation is to win the game as a team. If Mr. Monga's point is that other younger players should be a given chance then this could be said in better ways too than said in the article.

    A fundamental reason that we lose tests like these could be the lack of "FAST" bowling pitches in India which translates to lack of match practice on fast pitches and finally inconsistency in winning on pitches like those in Australia and SA consistently. Winning matches boils down to skill and training. We have no shortage of skill but we can certainly work on training our players in various conditions on home pitches.

  • ut4me87 on January 7, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    Dhoni should not be in the Test team. Bring some body like Ganguly to captain the side and only then, we can win. I have been living in England since 1971 and you could walk into any England - India test matches until India started doing well (not always winning) under Ganguly. Gambhir for all his problem looks like the man Ganguly was in 2001.

  • mgzak on January 7, 2012, 18:08 GMT

    It always comes down to the better bowling side. Despite his inexperience, Pattinson is an extremely fine bowler and with support from Siddle and Hilfenhaus, the Aussies have a very good bowling attack. India has a strong batting line up but their bowling is weak. Zaheer is their best bowler with an average of 30+ per wicket. With Clarke, Ponting and Hussey on the side, the effect of Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid is negated. Sehwag cannot make runs against good bowlers who are smart. I am amazed that he could score a triple century, let alone 2. Smart bowlers could work Sehwag out easily as he has no foot work. At he gets on in age, he will find that his lack of technique will work against him. Hand, eye coordination can work when you are younger. When reflexes start going, technique is what keeps batsmen going. In fact, all great players who played into their late 30s had good technique.

  • only_sehwag on January 7, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    So, who are the replacements for these three?

  • Perfect.Stranger on January 7, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    Its a team sports and the players needs to encourage each other. I miss that in the Indian team. One main reason for this is the aloofness of Dhoni. They need to put a more vocal keeper behind the stumps who can encourage the whole team with his chattering. It has an added advantage of getting on the nerves of Batsmen as they dont enjoy someone shouting in their ears all the time. May be they can play Dhoni as a batsman and try another more vocal keeper. Just a thought.....

  • on January 7, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    Ok. We lost 2 matches. But still series and Border Gavaskar trophy we can save by winning the next two. Be optimistic guys. Our top 8 batmen scored fifty overseas in the first 4 innings already. Don't you think that this is a great start for series? I am sure that 2/3 of our batsmen will get big hundreds in the next 4 innings and will bring proud for India. I wish them all the best.

  • on January 7, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    The result would have been different if Dhoni would have applied some pressure. Ishant Sharma is becoming a liability. Why were Pontng and Clarke let off after 3/37 ? They just gave up !!! When you give up and hope for declaration that ONLY adds to pressure on Batsmen !! It is same as crying for help : pls batsmen please save us we cant stop the bowlers ... Thats the mentatlity of the team. Now batsmen already feel a mountain to climb chasing 468 behind... Even Bradman would have failed to take this team home. They gotta change the attitude: read Rameez Raja's comments on advising Pak team to play like war against England... A theme Imran Khan used, why cant captain motivate the team like that : guess what : captain doesnt have respect of everyone in the team because captain himself performs poorly, prepares poorly and is laidback. Unless Dhoni brings his head down from cloud nine, oldies or youngsters we will nev win

  • TRAM on January 7, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    Yes. India batting failed. But why? IMO the #1 reason is AUSTRALIAN PREPARATION. Aus captain and BOWLERS very thoroughly analyzed the Ind batting (videos) and had SOLID PLAN on where to bowl for Ind batsmen. And their bowlers PRACTICED THE PLAN HARD ahead of the series to put the ball exactly in those areas again and again.

    On the contrary, Indians captain & bowlers neither had plans nor had the capacity to bowl accurately. On top of that the captain was defensive on the field.

    How many balls Sehwag got out side off? How many short of length balls VVS got? How many on the pads balls Gambhir/RD got? SRT somewhat succeeded because he does not have much of weakness in technique. If he gets out thats because of his own doings. Ashwin succeeded because Aus wouldn't have considered him as a batsman and wouldnt have studied his batting. They would have only studied his bowling. And he doesn't have much history (videos to study) either.

    It is all about PREPARATION.

  • AvidCricFan on January 7, 2012, 15:59 GMT

    Two from Kohli, VVS and Gambhir need to be replaced. While Gambhir scored 83 plus in SCG, he will struggle in little challenging condition. He simply doesn't have technic to cope. The same is true to some extent about VVS. Moreover, he is a big liability in the field. Kohli has weakness, he can be persisted with keeping future in mind. Replace Gambhir with Rahane and VVS with Rohit Sharma.

    The real challenge for India is lack to quality bench strength. The T20 (IPL) and ODI coupled with docile Indian wickets is not grooming right players for the test cricket.

  • NeoTheSaviour on January 7, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    Just finished watching highlights of the Last Match of Warne and McGrath. It intrigued me how fortunate cricket was to have some one of the 'ability of Warne' and 'discipline of McGrath'. Those were the kind of reason people like me (Indian Fans) would get up and follow Australian Tests. The last one of that Legendry Group 'Sachin' is on the verge of saying good bye (may be 5-10 more tests). I am certain once he is gone almost 50% test followership in India will drop (grounds any way people are avoiding I am taking about TV). I don't see any more long term prospect rising through Indian ranks. These defeats (Eng/Aus) will totally deflate Indian Crowd interest in Test Matches. And I am wondering how long test Cricket can survive without the money India is pumping. IPL is giving all entertainment India needs, it looks this series (4-0 to Aus) will be the event which un-officially be the starting point of death of International Test Cricket. Test cricket would be limited to Ashes. Hope '

  • Marcio on January 7, 2012, 15:48 GMT

    The problem is the Indian media and public have created the delusion that only bad umpiring cost them the last series in Australia. That is nonsense. All umpires are from neutral countries. In fact I believe India won their 1 test last time - in Perth- because INDIA bullied officials and the AUS team. They didn't know what to do in that game, losing their natural aggression. Remember, India lost the 1st test of that dries by nearly 300 runs. I doubt bad umpiring was the cause.

  • GoIndia2012 on January 7, 2012, 15:41 GMT

    This is another australian ploy to demoralize India and the Big three, who the aussies know are the only hope the current Indian team has of salvaging this series. All the indian fans rooting for the Big Three's necks should think twice. There is more to winning test matches than just kicking out the three Best Batsman in your team 2 of them being one of the games's greatest!! The Big three need to exit, absolutely!! But in a more planned manner. All three cannot go at once. I think next one year is good time for them to start exiting one by one giving ample chances for younger players to play side by side the greats.

    More than kicking out the Big Three who have served India so well, India should reconsider having IPL maybe every 2 years. I feel too much 20-20/ODIs is THE big reason that the young guns are not performing at the big stage even after getting ample chances. Also need to look at creating faster wickets in subcontinent just like Aussies learnt how to play spin.

  • naveenpnayak on January 7, 2012, 15:27 GMT

    @Arunvilla-- haha... I dont think u know much about cricket

  • arvin on January 7, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    dhoni as captain is the problem and laxman time expired a while ago... other than that how about steve waugh failed dream of conquering final frontier or pontings dream of winning a series in india... failed dreams are part of the game and in cricket when it comes to test matches 1 or 2 batsmen alone can not win no matter how good they are.... when ur bowlers take 4 wickets in a match all ur efforts as batsman are in vain...

  • on January 7, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    Be rest assured that most of you who are denouncing IPL now will not give up watching it, for it has so deeply penetrated into the Indian cricket's veins, including fans. The comments on this article vindicate the saying 'Common sense is not so common'. I don't understand how the trio can be blamed for the loss and asked by most fans to retire. RD had the second best year of his life & saved India from humiliation of not even scoring 200 ever in England series. Tendulkar hasn't got his 100th 100, but he surely played his part by scoring a series of half-centuries in the 2nd half of test cricket calendar. VVS-yes he's the one who really is struggling. What most people can't fathom is that rest of the batting line has become a group of duds. Openers+Dhoni+Kolhi can't score more than 50 runs together on most of the occasions. And our bowlers were never our strenght. Even on odd occasions when they did well by dismissing top order batsman quick, they ran out of intensity to finish the job

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 7, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    @all the comrades on board (Meety, sagitrama, sriraj, indianpunter), I'm sorry to have upset you all. It's just that I've watched those series (India in England 07, India in Aus 07/08, India in Aus 03/04) so closely that I firmly believe that India was the beneficiary in England (though it was just one howler in favour of a tailender) and India paid a huge price on the other two series to Australia. I completely agree that this Aussie side has completely trounced us and rightly so. Absolutely, fearsome bowling. Great fielding and excellent batting. Add our T20ish/ODIish captain to the equation. Big up to Australia. Hats off. I personally don't think Hussey's and Cowan's were howlers (they were marginal) just like how Ponting escaped a LBW (that's no howler either, that's a marginal). Howler is when the decision is blatantly wrong (ala Bucknor+Bowden style in 03/04; Bucknor+Benson style in 07/08). Yes, there were wrong decisions in this series also but they are not howlers IMHO.

  • KarachiKid on January 7, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    Winning in Australia requires superlative batting, that your batsmen are capable of but also needs superlative bowling where your team seems a bit lacking !

  • on January 7, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    Yes its surely is dead .... But really feel very bad for tendullkar when I see his face on the field when our bowlers are carted around the park . I think tendulkar is the first legend who has never had a bowling unit which can 20 wickets comfortably in any conditions since he made his debut.

  • shrastogi on January 7, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    Its not just this series which have been a disappointment twice before India should have won a series in Australia - in 1977 & then in 1985. In 1985 we drew the series and in 1977 we lost 3-2. This time around we had the best chance because of experienced batting and decent fast bowling. In 1977 we didnt have fast bowlers as the test lost were closely fought. If Ashwin can score runs with a relatively new ball one fails to understand why we couldnt bat longer and convert innings loss.For the whole year we havent been collectively batting well even in India but it was hoped the experienced trio would pull their weight. It remains to be seen if they are able to do better in the remaining two tests.

  • dms1972 on January 7, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    Did you know that, if Australia win this series 4-0, India will lose their second place on Test rankings and will be joined by Australia in equal 3rd place?

  • anita1_cric on January 7, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    comeon can anyone expect SRT to ply for the team ..biggest joke ...he alwys plays for himeslef never for the team. If you count on him it does not make senese ..yes count on dravid the hard working player fo the team ..even laxamn had stayed long time and saved many test ...never SRT

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 7, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    @Ahsan_Shere Just check all the matches we won outside sub continent since 2000 and you will find laxman's contribution in almost all matches. He bats down the order and you compare him with other batters who have better avg. Funny how these short tempered indian fans (teenagers) call for the seniors heads. Ponting and hussey had been worst performers for their team in last two years yet they are persisted because there are not worthy replacements. We indians are more boastful when it comes to projecting our wins yet pretty emotional when it comes to accepting defeats.

  • on January 7, 2012, 12:44 GMT

    SHIV-it is right time to ask top three to step down and these three were their to make fame and money .look at Aus and even the best players with form have gone on retirement to give youngerster a chance where as Sachin/Dhoni/Dravid still hangs b'cos of fames and the influence . it is going to a white wash

  • analyseabhishek on January 7, 2012, 12:35 GMT

    @Srivas Ramgopal- Saurav ganguly's role is often overemphasized in 2003-04 series. yes he gave a good start and set the tone for the series but Aus were without Mcgraw and Warne and the pitches were flatter than this time around.

  • Sanj747 on January 7, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    Ray24 spot on. Quite a poor side for a while. Even when they were number 1 purely due to rankings their only away series win was in NZ. India cannot and will not be able to win overseas. This has been proven time and time again.

  • Arunvilla on January 7, 2012, 11:57 GMT

    The problem is Dhoni!!get rid of him from the test team he doesnt even have the requirements to fill in it. select jadeja he will be a better test cricketer than a better odi player. Include i.pathan in the team he will fill in as a fast bowling all rounder.but as long as dhoni is thr he will never get selected. Pls for gods sake sack srikanth from the selectors job he is total useless. And at last give the test captaincy to ZAHEER KHAN i know it sounds awkward but he has tons of experience, plus he played under 4 different captains, above all he is aggressive not like dhoni. After all we will be playing only is india for the next 2yrs. Thn why cant we try him. It should be done for the man who done almost immortal service to the indian team and still never given enough credit for what he has achieved for so long with success as the best left arm seamer in the world.

  • Raju_Iyer on January 7, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    I had to patiently read through 141 comments (mostly silly, emotional overreaction, typical from passionate fans) but I came across a gem of a comment from Junnun Chowdhury (via Facebook) which gives a brilliant perspective. We have to remember that this is real life - not a movie like Lagaan. In which era was our cricket team winning regularly abroad? In fact in the olden days, we would get beaten regularly, even at home. Why is it that neither England nor SA, neither of whom can be considered weak teams anytime in their history have never managed to win the World Cup in the last 37 years? Becasue, at the end of the day, this is a team sport and like everything else in life, there will be ups and downs so we must be mature enough to handle them. How can we forget after just one and a half bad series, the numerous occassions that this very team has provided us tremendous joy and pride? This is the time we need to support them the most and wish them the very best. Bharat Mata Ki Jai!

  • on January 7, 2012, 11:27 GMT

    @priceless, that's not fair, if India won the the World Cup only because it was played in India, why haven't England won on the 3 occasions the WC was staged there or Australia/South Africa on their home soil. India's test run abroad has been execrable, obvious for all to see, but that should not detract from their WC win, remember they beat Australia, Pakistan and finally Sri Lanka in 3 tense encounters. Seems a long while back but it did happen and DRS was used.

  • Antomann on January 7, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    Never mind. They'll get over it.

  • Abhayaprada on January 7, 2012, 11:03 GMT

    @henchart... As a 8th generation Aussie I find your comments hilarious... Your bias is obvious... I prefer to admire our opposition & wish them well... Rather than the repetitive non-sporting nationalism shown by you & many of the current posters... lol... Good luck to you & the other pommy posters... lol...

  • Itchy on January 7, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    @logicalthinking: which greentops are you thinking of? The SCG? That's why one team managed 4/650+ and the other team couldn't match that in two innings, including their second innings when the pitch was playing very easy. Just your team who couldn't match it with a bunch of rookie bowlers + P. Siddle

  • Philip_Gnana on January 7, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    India is just another flat track home performing team. The last time around in Australia, the Aussies were still building a team and India (as we can now see) managed to fare well with Ishant Sharma performing superbly. That was the key. Someone to tame Ponting. It has not worked this time around and the deep cracks in the Indian team is now showing. Flat track kings. The longer the seniors stick around the longer the period of rebuilding. We see Sri Lanka doing the same, the difference being the seniors are not over 35 yet. Virat Kholi is a key play along wtih Murali, Raina to take over the reigns batting wise. It is pure selfishness in the part of the seniors to stick around this long when there is talent available. Administrators take note. India needs to be prepared to experiment with players and losing during the time of rebuilding is not a great concern. The present Australian team bears fact to that and so does the England team. Philip Gnana, Surrey

  • on January 7, 2012, 9:56 GMT

    This is the perfect time to boost the confidence of youngsters and team management should stick with Kohli and get in Rohit as well by replacing with any1 of the AGEING LEGENDS. If Kohli is dropped on the expense of an AGEING player than for sure we all have to expect that these GRANDPA's of Indian cricket will continue to play and there is a fair chance they can still get a chance to visit Australia again in 2014 tour. I did wrote before that Umesh will not be a handy in Australian conditions, but people start saying big just with 1 performance. He hardly has the ability to bowl in Australian conditions and to players of the calibre of Ponting, Clarke etc. Just looking at the speedometer performance if he get selected than we all can just laugh. It's time to give emphasis on youngesters in this tour rather persisting with Grandpa's, if the Team management is anyway serious. Bring in Irfan Pathan, the perfect partner in these conditions for Zaheer.

  • on January 7, 2012, 9:35 GMT

    Indian & South Africans rarely rise to an Occasion where as the erstwhile Mighty WI and Oz always relish and look forward to important tours and hence do extremely well. They are inspired by Challenges whereas India are intimidated most of the times by them. Thats the difference, precisely!!!

  • on January 7, 2012, 9:32 GMT

    How can people blame Tendulkar? Yes, he did not yet has his elusive 100th ton. but it is not that he is struggling like Ponting was struggling...

    Take a look at following stats for last year (2011)...

    Tendulkar: Avg. 47.25, Home Avg. 43.6, Away Avg. 48.9, 1 Century (Away) and not India did not play Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Namibia, etc. Ponting: Avg. 31.92, Home Avg. 44.2, Away Avg. 32.33, No century

    So I do not agree when people say Ponting shown more grit and determination. We have again come back to situation where we look up to Dravid and Sachin to bail us out every time and they are delivering... they are not getting support from others.

  • on January 7, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    Disgusting as an indian cricket lover. Spineless unenthusiastic display. We love you more. Please come right back, now!!!

  • indianpunter on January 7, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    yay! we have the IPL just round the corner. To soothe the senses, to calm the frayed nerves. Ugh!

  • here2rock on January 7, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    This is what hurts me the most as an Indian supporter that India refuses to make changes and learn from their mistakes. They carry on a cricket field without any planning it seems. They are not very good readers of the situation that is when to attack or defend. In the Sydney test when Clarke brought himself on before the new ball both Tendulkar and Laxman shut the shop instead of seeing this opportunity to score 50-60 runs before the new ball was taken. What happened, Tendulkar lost his wicket to a straight ball and Laxman went against a good new ball. Nothing gained. Why would Dhoni bat first on a green pitch when his side has been struggling with batting overseas for a long time now? Too many tactical errors.

  • sportofpain on January 7, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    Disappointing performance - hard to accept such a capitulation but the reality is that both bowling and batting have been below par. Consider that we lost 20 wickets for less than the runs that Australia scored for the loss of just 4 wickets. We can say what we want but this must be one of the worst drubbings we have received. And it came at Sydney where 4 years ago we were robbed. Seems like there is no justice in sport but I think the reality is that we haven't let the youngsters get their due. While the big three have stayed put, we have played musical chairs with the likes of Yuvraj, Raina, Pujara, Kohli, Badrinath, Murali Vijay, Mukund. None of them has got an extended run and the big three also seem to be resistant to any change in their batting spots. Rahul at 3, Sachin at 4 and VVS at 5 means a youngster can only come in at 6. Kohli has class - give him an extended run at 3. Find a spot for Rohit as well even if that means a tap on the shoulder for 1 of the 3. It's time.

  • priceless1 on January 7, 2012, 7:47 GMT

    @ cheeseburgers That because the world cup was played in India ..

  • unix_anand on January 7, 2012, 7:45 GMT

    I think selectors has to be think now very seriously. Non performance players has to sack, players like V. Kohli, Laxmax, I sharma, Sehwag has to be drop and ask them to improve basics in domestic cricket. I sharma was continious failed sence England tour. Now selector has to think and give the chance new players whoes are doing well in domestic cricket. I would suggest the name Rohit Sharma, Chateswar Pujara, Manoj Tiwari, Wasim Jafar etc etc .

    Thanks.

  • on January 7, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    I don't understand why everyone is blaming batsmen, Test Matches are not won by Batting alone, more importantly team has to take 20 wickets to win a test match, Do we have bowlers who can take 20 wickets ? Can anyone tell me how many teams in history have lost a test match after scoring 650+ runs and declaring.. The problem is mental state of the Indian team once opposition starts building a good partnership. Our Shoulders Dropped, Not Attacking much and start waiting for opposition to declare... is this how a Test Match is being Won ?

  • on January 7, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    Dear Mr. Monga, we have been writing these guys off and talking about their retirement (even without their agreement to it !) for years now and they are proving us wrong every time. These three are still the best to do the job in tests and I believe they can go on for a couple of more years in the test arena... who knows? Tendulkar may still be available for next 4-5 years. All depends on how they keep themselves up in best shape and form for few years more. If that happens, you and I may again start talking in 2014, "it is almost sure that these three are making their last trip to Australia"... huh...

  • henchart on January 7, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    @zenboomerang : still dreaming and hoping against hope?Thank your stars if it isnt 4-0 for Australia!Dhoni's press conference was as cocky and hollow as ever .The guy needs to be booted out of test team let alone captaincy.Would M/s Srikkanth and Co. have the guts to not select sachin-dravid -laxman trio in tests if India lose 4-0?BCCI is run as per whims and fancies of the likes of Tendulkar and Dhoni .These chaps can pick and choose which itself is detrimental to Indian cricket.But who cares? IPL 5 season schedule has been announced and these 3(Sachin,Dravid and Laxman) will play in IPL 8 also ,even on crutches if need be! ,

  • on January 7, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    Awesome.... couldn't have been better.......

  • on January 7, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    Dhoni's luck has run out as a captain especially abroad. I am not saying he is a bad captain, but he is good in the shorter format of the game. But he lacks imagination to win Test matches abroad. India have never been comfortable abroad and it is only because of a brave captain like Sourav Ganguly (an astute reader of the game), who was aggressive to the core that we came close to winning a series in Australia in 2003-04. If you look at our record abroad, we have never been able to win series abroad, since we don't capture key moments in a game. We always have a safety first approach (SA series last year was a prime example). @Sriraj: I agree with you that we have never faced Aus in full strength since 2001 and yet we lose. That has a tale in itself. It comes to the age old argument of having better infrastructure like bouncy pitches in domestic cricket. But tell me something, how many of the current team play domestic cricket. Sachin, Dravid, Rohit sharma may be. That's it!!!

  • on January 7, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    cricket is always a team game..n these men made their names count even on a losing note many a times..but what worries me is de fact that these ppl who gave us lot to cheer over the years has to leave in such a way!! its sad but they gotta accept that they were beaten by better teams..

  • Ray24 on January 7, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    Over-rated and overly obsessed with players, bar Dravd.

  • on January 7, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    the last line says it all 2 months of meaningless (other than a quick buck or 2) time and energy wasting exercise. i mean why not send players to other countries to play in their conditions to help to adapt better. seriously noone in Indian cricket seems to have a plan or even care about future development. the journey from the penthouse to the cellar has already begun and the velocity is high

  • AtticusFinch on January 7, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    @Ravi Philar . . . I absolutely agree with you. Dhoni is the problem here in Australia as he was in England. He is completely disinterested whether India loses by 600 Runs or 10 Wickets. Even against West Indies, India just about managed to keep it compeititive. Dhoni's complete Indifference on the field is staggering. It speaks volumes about his lack of interest to be in White Clothes, if you put him in a Dirty Yellow outfit, am sure he will become a Charging Tiger. Sack him immediately, I say and make Kohli Captain. Its putting him into the deep end, but, hey, things cant get any worse than this!

  • sagitrama on January 7, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas: I m really disappointed by your comments...you were one of the few Indians on this forum that made sense (I still respect your comments on Dravid and SRT). But COME ON!!!! Australia have TROUNCED India. And if you are talking of Howlers....How is it that you have conveniently forgotten the first test of this series where there were three decisions that went against Aussies (2 Ed cowans and Micheal Hussey)?? 2 of them were HOWLERS...and yet Australia won the match by 122 runs. Why do Indians lose their sense of logic and conviction when they play Aussies? (I m an Indian too!). Last time India played Australia Kumble said "only one team played in the spirit of cricket". This time only one team played with any kind of spirit on the field. Lastly, this series and the one before in Eng shows how great Rahul Dravid as a Test captain was. He was inspirational, attacking and bloody minded to win in England. Dhoni would do well to have even one of these traits for the future.

  • indianpunter on January 7, 2012, 6:15 GMT

    @Dravid-Gravitas, For someone who is a regular on this forum, you should have known better. Howlers lost us the series in 07-08? Your comments are reflective of the indian and BCCI mindset in general, Denial. Wake up and smell the coffee, mate.

  • SamRoy on January 7, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    And Sid, for Christ's sake stop being less hard on Dravid. Sure he is a great player but he is way past his sell by date. But he has been the worst batsman for India on this tour (including Kohli). That 68 was outrageously lucky. Played and missed 40 times. And he has been bowled 4 times in 4 innings (once of a no ball). Laxman has been a old baggage. Can't move, can't bat.

  • bouncer3459 on January 7, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    Dream or DAY DREAMING decide for yourself, Monga.

  • SamRoy on January 7, 2012, 5:44 GMT

    Siddharth A few things about the dream. In 2003-04 there was no McGrath (which our media conveniently forgets). In 2007-08 Australia were a side on the wane. In 2011-12 Australian batting has gone downhill (Yet we are getting thrashed). Problem in India has always been overhyping of its cricketers. Some of them were world class. Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag, Kumble and Zaheer. Others were good cricketers to were overhyped. Laxman (who even a few years ago used to perform only against Australia), Ganguly (terrible against short pitched stuff), Yuvraj (no feet movement), Dhoni (no batting technique and zero affect outside sub-continent) and Harbhajan (prromising spinner who lost bite 4-5 years ago). Still solid captaincy from Ganguly helped India learn how to win away from home. And Dravid who too was a good test captain took Indian test team to next level. Kumble consolidated it. Dhoni with his defensive captaincy has been exposed in tests when conditions are not in his favour.

  • zenboomerang on January 7, 2012, 5:25 GMT

    @Sidharth Monga... That particular dream may be dead... But retaining the Border-Gavaskar Trophy is still possible & would be a great achievement when put into the current context... Looking forward to a rejuvinated Indian team in Perth & an exciting match :) ...

  • rahulcricket007 on January 7, 2012, 5:22 GMT

    i believe that sachin will come again in aus . at age of 39 he is stil a very good fielder , a good batsmen . infact he is the only indian batsmen in the series so far which has played comfortably against aussies bowlers . also he didn't drop catches like dravid , laxman .

  • andrew27994 on January 7, 2012, 5:20 GMT

    Why can't Dhoni think of promoting himself up the order at No.5 or 6 in the batting order and keep Ashwin at 7. He is certainly a better batsman than what he has shown in tests. Similarly Ashwin has been a Mr.Consistent with the bat since last 2 months. He should bat at 7 and India should go in with an extra seamer. That would take some burden from some of the other bowlers and avoid injuries. Also it allows quicks like Ishant and Yadav to consistently bowl at 145kphs if they want to without fear of getting injuries. Look at why teams like Australia, South Africa and even Pakistan have been successful. Because they have all-rounders who can back up both the batsmen as well as bowlers. India have potential all-rounders like Ashwin and Mithun. So why not let them play in Perth, where the pitch is fast and bouncy. I am sympathetic to Rohit Sharma but I feel he should be used in Adelaide instead where the pitches are more suitable for batsmen.

  • on January 7, 2012, 5:14 GMT

    Indian Can Never win a test series in Autralia, as simple as that

  • cheeseburgers on January 7, 2012, 5:08 GMT

    Well! Brian Lara and Jacques Kallis might have won here but never lifted the World Cup which I think is the biggest prize of them all. Master did. Anyways it's all fair and square as in life:)

  • Imran_Ahmed_Mani on January 7, 2012, 4:28 GMT

    India again proved that they r just paper tigers. Sham on indian team.

  • nyc_missile on January 7, 2012, 4:19 GMT

    Yep it is dead and I feel as sad as you do, Sid..because these legends don't deserve such an ignominious end to their careers if 'they' consider overseas success as the real one.Lets not react in a knee-jerk fashion because recent history proves that the same individuals have come out triumphant(Headingley 2002,Durban 2010,Perth 2008)on much more difficult surfaces than these..Also I thoroughly disagree with some experts saying that we need to revamp pitches blah blah blah,no sir..spin is our strength and shall be so for whatever its worth.For instance Perth wasn't changed to a dust bowl just because Oz lost 4-0 over two tours in India on relatively spin friendly tracks.It is the fighting spirit and strong desire to win which made difference in Perth of all places,after what was a soul-breaking ordeal in the match before..And that is precisely what is missing in this team and undoubtedly captain should take the brunt of blame.Dhoni just cut it as an aggressive test captain!

  • on January 7, 2012, 3:21 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas: Are you that brave enough to suggest there have been no howlers when teams tour India? Come on, even the last time you won 2-0 at home, the 1st test was won thanks to a howler against Aus when they needed 1 wicket! Anil Kumble's 10 wicket haul had 3 howlers! They have a history I tell you. And let's keep in mind that India hasn't played a full strength Aus side for years. They have never faced Warne since 2001. They faced McGrath in only 1 series after 2001. In 03/04, they played an attack of Lee, Williams, Dizzy and McGill. In 07/08, the Aus side had so many injuries that Jacques and Rogers were opening at Perth with Shaun Tait playing!

  • Meety on January 7, 2012, 3:03 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - I understand you're dissappointed by the way India are losing, but your comments on (January 06 2012, 17:52 PM GMT), were unbecoming & not what the real Dravid would of said. BTW - decisions went both ways in 03 & 07. Really dissappointed hearing comments like that from you. I usually agreed with most things you say (except the bit where you believe the 80s Windies were far & away better than 2000s Oz)!

  • on January 7, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    india hasnt even won a test series in south africa too.so they have many things to do..lol

  • on January 7, 2012, 2:37 GMT

    Who got 4 wickets in the SCG Test? Hilfenhaus? Pattinson? Siddle? Lyon? No to all the above - INDIA is the answer!!! Ba ha ha

  • Sayedgee on January 7, 2012, 2:21 GMT

    Dude... cricket is a team sport (remember Clarke)... it's not about 3 individual's dreams, Sachin, Demigods..... Its about India winning or losing, who cares if these 3 cannot win a series in Aus. It should be all about India winning or not winning in this case (from a Pak cric fan).

  • on January 7, 2012, 1:54 GMT

    dont count Tendulkar out yet

    .

  • only_sehwag on January 7, 2012, 1:49 GMT

    Lot of people are saying that the big 3 should retire...good point...so, who are the replacements?? Kohli?? Raina?? A big reason why the middle order failed was gambhir failing in every innings and exposing the middle order to the new ball..they were never good players of the new ball..that is why they bat deep...it is the job of the openers to see of the new ball..otherwise we could open with laxman and tendulkar..

  • Hindhustani on January 7, 2012, 1:40 GMT

    Problems facing India overseas : a) Can play good length and full deliveries which swings late and pithched on off stump. b) Pure technical problem. No foot work for sehwag, laxman. c) Indian Batsman not playing on back foot and behind the line of ball. Thats why laxman is not able to judge whether to live or not and being caught in slips. Without moving feet he is poking at away going deliveries. D) Biggest problem is sehwag. Not giving good opening partnerships and getting out quickly.Not even dugging out. His weakness his foot work. witout even moving feet how can some one play away going deliveries or in good swinging and bouncy pitches? Is he a magician ? No. He shouldn't be touring overseas with Indian cricket team. He is not even average overseas test player.Remove sehwag and give more chances to abhinav mukund who is good form in domestic cricket. E) Dhoni .Another waste test player player and very bad defensive captain.

  • Naresh28 on January 7, 2012, 1:30 GMT

    @INDIAN FANS - we are carrying too much dead wood in the current test team. SHEWAG, GAMBHIR,LAXMAN, DHONI - thats four places. Two are openers. That is not good. We can only select a team for the next game from those who are in Australia at present. Dravid could come good and would make the best captain. If we opened with the two youngsters - Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli - both are highly regarded by Ian Chappell - they are the future. Bring in Saha, Rahane and Ohja. Laxman is a slow runner

  • on January 7, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    On the day Indian can beat Australia, England can beat Australia, India can beat England, Australia can beat England. All of you Indian cricket fans need to get a grip and realise that winning and losing go hand in hand. You have 3 aging star batsmen who need to call it quits, but life goes on. There will be other stars over the years who achieve a lot. You need to think of the focus that cricket gives the vast Indian population and whether your side wins or loses the people have the great experience of seeing special people playing a fantastic sport. One thing that any cricket nation needs to beat Australia is mental toughness...that is where we are good...think Steve Waugh, Alan Border, Ricky Ponting...England have caught up a bit with this but every other test nationmin the world is light years away.

  • on January 7, 2012, 1:08 GMT

    Sadly, they only have themselves to blame. Hate to say it but I do not feel any sympathy for them. They've collectively let the team down in England and now in Australia.

  • on January 7, 2012, 1:05 GMT

    Well things like these are meant to happen, so we dont forget the difference between mortals and immortals. SRT, Laxman and the best batsman India ever produced Dravid. Honestly, I wonder how his record would have looked if he had played as long as SRT did. But this game is not about records, is it? It is about being competitive and play as a team. This whole scenario is missing. Team India is playing like individuals. The glue tht keeps them togather and fight as a team is missing. BCCI has missed a trick by not introducing younger players from time to time who could have taken their place eventually. I feel bad for these great three. I feel they are dragging themselves out every time they play, cause when they look behind, there is no one to take their side. Also with all the domestic cricket being played, can BCCI only come up with Zak, Ishant etc. I mean what were you expecting? Spinner friendly tracks in Aussieland? Its so disappointing for a cricket fanatic to be witness this!

  • backwardpoint on January 7, 2012, 1:02 GMT

    Lest it cloud the real picture... The 400 was good to see after 11 away innings where we couldnt scale beyond 300 (yes, we scored 300 once in Eng, but I said we couldnt scale beyond 300). Even here, we wouldnt have reached 300 unless a certain Z Khan and R Ashwin took their chances and chanced their arms, so to speak. Its no surprise that these two werent in the team in the Eng and they prob have made a dif to the 400 score.

    Real dark moments for the BCCI team. Its time for real introspection. As the wise men said, its the tests that the pinnacle of cricket. Everything else is redundant. Are the folks at BCCI listening?

  • logicalthinking on January 7, 2012, 0:59 GMT

    @zain.ul.abideen: totally agree with your thoughts bro...im am an indian supporter and now looking fwd to the end/pak series instead..Best of luck Team Pak hope u thrash the pommies and show them their deserved ranking i.e. #1 @ home and #8 overseas. Same with the Aussie (great win btw!! congrats to pup n ponting for showing how its done)....everyone keeps saying India should only organise home series n flat track bullies...to all the GREENTOP BULLIES: if you are allowed to be bullied around, no matter flat or green track, you cannot be the BEST. the team that performs on all tracks are the best team like the great WI team. Period

  • Not_Inbetweenist on January 7, 2012, 0:59 GMT

    weather they(team india) lose or win, they are still legends in terms of the passion towards the game, skill, dignity and charisma they bring to the game of cricket with their presence. love them or hate them but you cannot ignore them. Its not fair shadowing their greatness with just two unfavourable series. they always hold the special place in the cricket world for their contribution to the game, milestones they reached, history they made, artistry in batting they possess continuously over the decades. its not the case that they intentionally losing but somehow it just not falling in the right place, happens in any sport with any team which actually make the sport more interesting. so rather than giving them free tips( how to play and how not to) through free text box provided by cricinfo it's better grabbing a beer and chill out.

  • on January 7, 2012, 0:57 GMT

    I GUESS THE TRIO HAS TO RETIRE WITH GRACE,RATHER WITH HUMILIATION

  • orangtan on January 7, 2012, 0:32 GMT

    Frankly, we could not have dreamt of winning in Australia, not after the debacle in India which was conveniently forgotten in the short-lived euphoria of the 5-0 ODI victory over England and theTest/ODI wins against the hapless West Indies. Our much maligned bowlers turned in a surprisingly good performance in Melbourne; however, the complete failure of the batters has now made a 4-0 thrashing inevitable. As the seniors ride off into the sunset, I daresay their callow twittering replacements will find it very hard to even win on flat home pitches. It is Indian cricket that should bear the brunt of Virat Kohli's digital rage.

  • desolationmike on January 7, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    It's all about the howlers is it Dravid_Gravitas? Funny how the supporters of two opposing countries can both feel cheated by the same independent umpires! Might be time to accept the losses and look to the future.

  • dunger.bob on January 7, 2012, 0:27 GMT

    @ Zaynsbaba "MARK MY WORDS, BCCI will soon be at the forefront of a movement to eliminate test cricket."

    Interesting. If India were to withdraw from Test cricket, would that be the end of the game ?

    Absolutely not. One or two of your sub-continental cousins might drop out as well because they are simply too scared to oppose the BCCI, but it won't stop the rest of us from playing on.

    I can't speak for anyone else, but I can pretty much guarantee you that Aussies will not accept that Test cricket is dead until the day we cannot get anyone to play against us. Even then, we wouldn't give up. I can see the Aussie team walking around the streets of London, Jo'Burg and so on with loudspeakers trying to goad 11 guys into accepting the challenge. You know how good we are at getting up peoples noses so I don't think it would be long before the Poms or Saffers bristle up and take us on.

    Test cricket needs India, but not so much that it would die without them.

  • Ms.Cricket on January 7, 2012, 0:19 GMT

    India should give a chance to Rohit Sharma and Rahane in the next Test. On the next tour Dravid and Laxman, great as they are, will not be around while Rohit and Rahane could be. Indian fielding needs more spark. So best is to cut losses and look forward and gain experience for the future. India cannot win this series now so the best team for next Test should be Sehwag, Gambhir, Rahane, Tendulkar, Rohit, Kohli, Dhoni, Ashwin or Ojha, Zaheer, Ishant and Yadav.

  • Drew2 on January 7, 2012, 0:14 GMT

    A very well written article. Make no mistake. This series was about more than the Border-Gavaskar Trophy. It was about India having the opportunity to be the first Sub Continent team to win a Test series in Australia, and for three legends from their best era ever, to be a part of that. It's over in the blink of an eye. All this against an injury depleted side. I've said it before. The piches in India need to be more balanced to help their batsman cope with seam and pace. There's no point in being formidable at home and no good abroad. You can be both, especially with the talent they have had over the last 20 years.

  • on January 7, 2012, 0:06 GMT

    I think Dhoni is too defensive in his approach. He always expands fields for Clarke, Pointing & Hussy .. why ? This gave these 3 chance to settle down. It happens in all innings & they settled in all innings & took match away from us....

    So very defensive Captaincy ... Saurav Gaungly was very aggresive captain, He could win us this time. But he is doing commentry outside ground :(

  • on January 7, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    I still believe Sachin will come back again. He can play easily another 3 years. 42 year sachin will be far better than young player. no doubt.

  • RoJayao on January 7, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    @zain.ul.abideen You are absolutely correct about the expectations of fans being unrealistic now the big three are so old. How many tests and series have India won where they shouldn't have but for astonishing individual feats of one or more of these three legends? India were always a disputed no.1 team in tests because they were much more a team of champions than a champion team. Now those champions can't perform the miracles as much or at all anymore and the team struggles. Why are so many people surprised?

  • on January 6, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    Sachin with all due respect we do not wish to see your 100th international 100. It has been a draining year for India and the little master is in the center of it all. When India won the world cup every one said they did it for Sachin. So do us a favor get the team to tie the series for you and the whole country. A century in a whitewash is less impressive than no centuries at all in a tied series.

  • sermadali on January 6, 2012, 23:46 GMT

    I still don't understand who make these Rankings ..India Never WIN in Australia .... in the last decade... how come they were rated as No.1team. Why they criticize the Indian batting ..Were they good in Srilanka, SA,England and Australia they should not be called As No. 1....batsmen in the world. Produce some fast bowlers mate....1.2 billion peoples cannot produce fast bowler that can bowl and bowled the team out .... Are you listening India men produce...................plzzzzzzz..Just blaming on batting wont help

  • nlambda on January 6, 2012, 23:41 GMT

    It is not their fault. We were never good enough to win, and this is due to our bowling. I think the best chance was in 2003/04, but again the bowling in tests 3 and 4 was pathetic. Zaheer was unfit (again!), and Harbhajan had broken his finger (which he was hiding, incidentally - some things never change!). How can we beat Aus in Aus when the bowlers keep getting thrashed around the park?

  • on January 6, 2012, 23:35 GMT

    Watching the 2 test matches there was no inclination that India wanted to win. The poor captaincy by Dhoni has continued from the English series and the batting is crumbling. I believe it is time for the Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman to retire - not only are they failing, they are bringing the team down. Tendulkar is getting out at crucial times in both matches and I believe he is too focused on getting that 100th 100. Dravid's batting is extremely awkward and not assured. Laxman cannot get an innings going until Sydney. It is really time for the test time, like the ODI team, to be re-shaped and to introduce more youngsters to the side. I believe the youngsters can and will bring the drive to win for an Indian side that is lacking any motivation. Furthermore, Dhoni should have more aggression in his captaincy by taking advantage of the good positions and placing more effective fields. With these changes there will be a more successful and motivated Indian test team.

  • on January 6, 2012, 23:30 GMT

    yeah, move on Dravid_Gravitas!! The Indians have been beaten fair and square-- that too by a so called 'inexperienced and young' Australian team. Move on Team India. There is no point talking about ifs and buts. Move on because there are two more tests. Try to make something out of them or else some of the folks in Team India will be limited to being folklore.

  • on January 6, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    Dravid and sachin are both of the same age. Both should be treated equally. I think in case of Sachin, he is allowed to play until he wants to. But it is not the case for Dravid, each and every dismissal of his is scrutinized. Dravid had a relatively lean patch for 2 or 3 years, Sachin had a far worst patch earlier. Dravid was the leading run scorer in Tests in 2011. Laxman has a slightly difficult time in the last 6 to 8 months. If one has to go among these 3 , who will be the one is it Dravid or Tendulkar or Laxman ? Lets not praise people for scoring attractive half centuries which is no use for the team.....Batsmen have to fight it out and be team-oriented, be it Dravid or Tendulkar or Laxman... Most people have answer who played for team and personal records among these 3. Ravi shastri wants one of the 3 to give away to youngsters, but he dont want sachin to be the one...So it is between Dravid and Laxman as per the Shastri(comedian).... Let's wait and watch .....

  • brittop on January 6, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    @qrk1882: what's bad for India in the fact the Tendulkar's trying to score a century?

  • KrazyToes on January 6, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    The reality is - all 3 - Laxman, Dravid and Tendulkar - DO NOT CARE one bit that they never won a series in Australia;

    Tendulkar will point to all his stats - 99 centuries and counting - and claim his "greatness"

    Dravid will talk about his 5 or 6 centuries last year with 2 or 3 coming in England and show his "revival"

    VVS always has the epic innings in Eden Gardens 2001 to talk about.

    Thats all they care - personal statistics. They do not care about milestones like winning the first series in Australia in 2 decades - winning for India is the last thing in their mind. So this article is pointless. So "how broken they must feel" is pointless - they dont even think about it is the fact.

    The guy among the 3 who will care the least about winning a series in Aus is Sachin Tendulkar; thats the difference between Michael Clarke who can declare at 329 - can anyone imagine an Indian team declaring when Sachin is in 329 to try to win the game? NO freaking way.

  • nikhilshahb on January 6, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    India needs to overcome the mental block of not being able to win a Test series in Aus. Worrying too much creates pressure and triggers a top order collapse. The problem with India in recent times has been the form and injuries to Gambhir and Sehwag who can give them good starts and then the middle order exploiting them. With runs on the board the bowling attack gets sorted out. A score of 191 puts pressure on the bowlers. I think they needs to think positive and manage a score just like the 400 in I2 in Test 2. Once Sehwag and Gambhir work them into form hopefully the runs will flow. Teams like England and Australia are good at taking advantage of that. The pace and bounce issue takes a 15% hit on the Indian batting and after winning in England in 2007, NZ, twice in WI and 2004 in Pak this team has proven that it can overcome the pace and bounce syndrome. It is the players and press who take advantage of this and usually by the time they play a couple of Tests it is already too late!

  • Silloh on January 6, 2012, 22:58 GMT

    The dream is dead is quite an accurate statement. Whilst the Indian selectors continue to apparently dream, the Australian administrators , because of their hard work are certainly seeing their dreams converted into a reality. This does not mean the three experienced guys are totally over but unlike Australia , succession planning seem to have taken a back seat for the Indians and there will be three huge batting places to be filled shortly. Virtually impossible for some time.

  • on January 6, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    As a true cricket lover I feel bad about Indian performance in Australia,because India has the best batting line among all the teams its not easy to get 20 Indian wickets specially Sachin and Dravid are the hard nuts to crack and on dead surface when ball is not doing any magic its a simple Indian Pakistani tracks at SCG.I am from Pakistan but a true lover of cricket ,Sachin is my favourite player.Now Dohni has to think that he is playing Test cricket its not IPL,and as a captain you are the most responsible person in the field,you need to talk with your guys during the game when bowlers are down with cracking strokes of the batsmans,constant change in fielding placement are important,India team is not weak but the captain is not doing his job,he has the best coach and experienced Sachin with him but he is sill loosing,say like 6 tests in a row thats horrible. Captain is responsible to use his players properly and wisely as M.Clarke did.

    No problem keep trying and BEST OF LUCK.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 6, 2012, 22:28 GMT

    I'm not sure if the team as a whole is dreaming about the tour but I'm sure that some certain player and his fans have been dreaming about a personal milestone so much so that the media has been going nuts discussing more about it than the series at hand....Shame! Talk of weighing down the team for a personal milestone and misplaced priorities.....Come to think of it, can we import Michael Clarke??? He will straighten out things in our dressing room. Take a bow to Michael Clarke, The Captain true to the word. The team player true to the word. I've never respected an Aussie Captain more. He sure is right up there, in a class of his own. Michael Clarke = RESPECT. Period! Dhoni is the biggest joke that could have ever happened to any test match team in the world. Very sad to see such a clueless captain leading a test team of 1.3 billion. Well, if a foreign woman can think of leading India and her 1.3 billion people, then why not Dhoni? I'm gutted....Please publish..

  • on January 6, 2012, 22:15 GMT

    I agree with this article, in order to be called "Legandary" or "Great" a team or player must perform and WIN in any condition, against anyone, anywhere in the world, as great of players that Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman are; there careers will be incomplete without conquering Aus in Australia. The last team who deserved to be called great was "Australia" of the 2000 decade. They beat whoever, wherever, however, sign of Greatness. This India team has enjoyed success on the back of BCCI's financial muscle but sooner or later they had to be exposed.

  • Nampally on January 6, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    Amazing stubbornness of the Indian Selectors! While the team is blown away, they insist this is the best they can offer?India needs 5 bowlers & 6 batsmen +WK. This is only possible by having an all rounder of right stripes in the XI- a Seamer or a Spinner. Since Yuvraj is not available, Jadeja will be the spinning all rounder & Irfan Pathan seamer one.These are best available on their current form. It was shocking to hear a media statement by Ashwin on Day 2 saying we are waiting for declaration by the Aussies!. The bowling was so poor that the team had given up the Test! There after they played like losers & Lost.Dinda has done well with high wkt. count in Ranji this year.Get him in the XI along with eitherJadeja or Pathan- 2 more wkt. takers.How can Dhoni say "this is the best team" whilst players are praying for declaration? It is sad to see such poor & unimaginative selection of the squad. A demoralized Indian team needs fresh troops.Selector Fly in Pathan, Jadeja & Dinda RIGHT NOW

  • Nsaharan on January 6, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    I strongly believe Laxman should play more often ( not just OZ series)and the middle order should do what they are suppose to do. They should have played R sharma instead of Kohli and Laxman at no 2. Dhoti got it all wrong.

    Btw Sid I must congratulate you on a great job that you have been doing - love your work. Sukhi Ma'am would be so proud of you. ....Saharan

  • Precioustar84 on January 6, 2012, 21:46 GMT

    @pvr - I totally agree with you! IPL has done more harm than good our Indian cricket team but can't say that some of us didn't see that coming. Its many Indians (new generation mostly) that supported T20 leagues and those that continue to encourage it shouldn't even complain at these losses. If anyone noticed carefully, there were many shots that were played that remind you of T20 mindset. I can't believe BCCI is focused on IPL schedule when our team is failing abroad. No wonder Dhoni had a big smile on his face after the second test was over (must've thought big paycheck coming up). I don't watch IPL for a reason and have believed it ruins Test format for Indians and I'm proven right!! Please publish cricinfo

  • Precioustar84 on January 6, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    I know people keep thinking that Sachin is obsessed of getting 100th ton, I'm probably in the minority group who feels that he hasn't chased after it all else he would've received it, especially in India. I think the hype is MEDIA-DRIVEN than anything else so that people don't focus on the real issues with our team. Sounds like its the works of BCCI to have fans follow that dream so they aren't criticized but their plan is rightly failing. I believe after winning WC, Sachin's other goal before retiring was to win series in Aus which unfortunately will not happen as he will retire after this tour with or without his 100th 100. In the meantime, I hope Team India can do some damage control. I respect all 3 so much but please retire with whatever grace and dignity is left now. Cricinfo please publish

  • noplay on January 6, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    What a really sad story. Nothing to do with who should be on the team and how to set fields. Just a moving story

  • YNS_GoIndia on January 6, 2012, 21:24 GMT

    We are making too much out of it! We played badly and we lost. No need to be so melodramatic about it. Many players miss out on one thing or the other. Lara (and probably Kallis) never one the world cup, Steve Waugh couldn't overcome the "final frontier" etc. etc. etc. One more thing. I never understand why Indian journalists appreciate an Australian win in Australia (their home) than an Indian win in India. I am sure if the situation had been reverse, the journalists would be coming out with the "home tigers" tag!

  • on January 6, 2012, 21:12 GMT

    @Ahsan_Shere - spot another specialist #6 batsman in the history of the game who has close to 9000 runs. It's not the quantity, but the quality of runs - the game situation, the opposition. Laxman often bats with the tail and scores the vital 70s or 80s which helps save a tight match, or win improbably. Why is it that Inzamam is rated a bigger match winner than, say a Jayawardene, or Chanderpaul? If everything was in the stats, Kallis would be considered a better batsman than Viv Richards ( and I say that with utmost respect for Kallis's skills purely as a batsman, he is a great of this era, but can you compare his impact to Viv's, and the quality of bowling he demolished?). Fantastic effort in general by Australia, to keep their foot on the pedal.

  • Shan156 on January 6, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    @Ahsan_Shere, that is because Laxman mostly bats at #5 or #6. He is talked in the same breath as Dravid and Sachin because of his ability to dismantle the best bowling attack of his time. His 281 in Kolkata was magical, his 148 in Adelaide and 178 in Sydney were amazing and his 9th wicket stand with Ishant that helped India win the test in Mohali was great. He has starred in several memorable Indian victories - apart from the ones mentioned, SL and Durban 2010 immediately spring to mind. Few can match his wristy strokeplay. So, yes, he may not be as good as Dravid and Tendulkar stats-wise, but he more than makes up for it with his fighting abilities. As an England fan, it makes me quite happy that the only top team against whom he hasn't scored a ton is England:-) That said, he looks past his prime and needs to make way for youngsters (who may not be as gifted as him but that is the only way for Indian test cricket to move forward)

  • Shan156 on January 6, 2012, 20:42 GMT

    @Azhar Babar, I'm afraid that is an incorrect assessment. Yes, Lara starred in a few Windies victories but they had good bowlers at that time - Ambrose, Walsh and sometimes Bishop (even Kenny Benjamin was decent) mainly. After the retirement of these great bowlers, Windies went on a downward spiral and won very few games if any. Why was Lara unable to conjure his magic after these great bowlers left the scene? The fact is, bowlers win you tests and batsmen set them up. As @Ashish Mishra says, Sachin is the most complete batsman of this generation. Look at his records against all countries both home and away. Except Pakistan, where he has played very few tests, he averages close to or over 50. Lara struggled against India for whatever reason. Taking nothing away from Lara, but he alone did not win games for Windies. It was the effort of the bowlers. India seldom had an attack remotely as good as the Windies. Sachin is way way superior to Lara. I'm an England fan, btw.

  • SirViv1973 on January 6, 2012, 20:42 GMT

    From an outside perspective, Ind have been way to slow to instigate change. I think its likely that the top 5 will remain as it is for Perth, going forward this has to be the last series for Dravid and VVS and perhaps for Dhoni as Capt to. Gambhir looks to be the only real option as a long term captaincy option, so I wld think it prudent if he was to move to 3 which would allow either Rahane or Mikund to open, People shld not forget that M.Clarke was struggling to score runs this time last year and many in Aus did not want him as capt and look at him now! Sharma shld then be given time to develop at 5. If Dhoni was replaced as Capt perhaps it would make sense to move him to 6 and play 5 bowlers certainly Ashwin bats well enough to bat 7, or the option is there to keep Dhoni at 7 and play another batter at 6. Nothing has to be set in stone if you have Dhoni and Ashwin then you can be flexible with 5 bowlers or play the extra batter depending on the conditions.

  • hhillbumper on January 6, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    A bitt harsh blaming Duncan Fletcher.As for what he did for England he bought us from World number 1 to beating a good Aussie team in 05.He won on tours of subcontinent.He can bring a lot to a team.The difference is that England wanted to get better and India just seem to live off a World cup that was won in their backyard.Look in the mirror and learn to man up then you might move forward.Alternatively play in the sub continent and look at the difference it makes. Sehwag can flail away to hearts content and apparently Ashwin is an all time great in India.

  • on January 6, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    If there is any sense of common sense , the Indian selectors should give opportunity to the remaining players in test squad for the remaining 2 tests.Tendulkar after his 100 th century should retire. Selectors should drop Dravid Laxman and Gambhir.On a pitch where the opponents scored over 600 runs, none of the Indian batsmen could score a century. Bring the new cream of players. With over Billion population and with cricket so much commercialised there are loads of talented cricketers coming through Ranji and IPL. India can still become an effective talented and capable team. It is all in the hands of selectors how they manage the future of Indian cricket.

  • on January 6, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    I don't understand why is kohli still there.He has given enough chances. And did u guys see how he showed middle finger to fans. would u believe I means fans are fan. why they pay you that much money. for ur patience ur training ur work hard.

  • gandharibr on January 6, 2012, 19:48 GMT

    I do not understand why the article seems blame the batsmen alone? Honestly, with the kind of bowling attach we have, it is not surprising for Clarke make triple hundred or ponting to get back to runs. Our bowling is pathetic. It is obvious that even if indian batsmen score tons of runs, there is no guarantee that they can save the match.

  • on January 6, 2012, 19:46 GMT

    Guys Frankly speaking when Hyden, Gilchrist, Grath and Warne is retired every one thought AUS team is finished but look at them In no time they are performing at best with all new bowlers. U never know same may applicable for india too. Its hight time for the three big guns to retire with class and respect else the career may end up like the way Gunguly and Azhar.

  • Shueb on January 6, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    Seriously wonder how these 3 batsmen are feeling... having played for so many years & still not winning a series wud surely hurt...

  • moBlue on January 6, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    @sidharth monga: nice non-mention of the facts, mr. monga. how on earth were the three supposed to win the series in AUS against the then-world champions, considering what transpired on days 4 and 5 with AUS battling to save the series, and bucknor intervening, not once, not twice, but four times - egregiously! - to save the test for AUS?!? "they weren't good enough to win..." you say. bull. *that* conclusion could not have been more dead-wrong!!! the 2003-04 IND team was more than "good enough" to beat AUS in AUS. in fact, the defending world champions looked quite abject in defending the last test, though - because of bucknor's daylight robbery! - the final score card may not reflect that! but facts are facts! they were indeed good enough to win a series in AUS! no other team in world cricket those days, incidentally, could have piled on 705 against the reigning world champions! but they were robbed of a win by a duplicitous umpire. i could not disagree with your conclusion more!!!

  • explorer18 on January 6, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    If team India are serious - they should go all out to win the next 2 tests. There are a few adjustments to make. First, mental: have a determination and work on the plans. Next, some players will have to go. Younger players seem to show more fire in their bellies. Pick Rahane, Rohit, and if it makes sense, Ojha as the fifth bowler. Then see who can go. It could be Virat for being so inept. Virat along with Dhoni are responsible for the middle order collapse in the last innings. It could be Dravid for being so out of touch. Dravid, when he is out of form and struggles, has a big negative impact on the middle order. It could be Laxman, for being so bad in first 3 innings. Last, Dhoni could also go. He has failed as captain, and also a batsman. If I have to pick one person on the team responsible, it's Dhoni. Anyone can captain. Sehwag, Gambhir, Laxman, and may be even Zaheer Khan. Zaheer seems to read the game much better than anyone else on the team. My 2 cents.

  • ROXSPORT on January 6, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    Well, the trio have only themselves to blame. Dravid should not have been sleeping when Hussey came to bat & edged the first ball through Dravid's legs for four. Lax & Sachin should have been awake as well & recognised the signs. Perhaps one of them should have come up to Dravid & asked him if he could field in his (Dravid's) position. Then maybe Hussey's catch would have been taken (on 69) & the last wicket pair could have folded earlier. You never know. You need to seize the moments. And those who fail to read them have no one else to blame but themselves. The troika flopped miserably & they can not, repeat can not, pass the blame.

  • USAPakCricFollower on January 6, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    I don"t think just these three batsmen can win a match for india, the best they can do is get a draw. To win a match india has to get 20 batsmen out and it does not have match winning bowlers at the moment. The outlook is not bright unless you find better bowlers that will also take the pressure off the batsmen. I don't see any chance of drawing this series, avoiding another whitewash would be an achievement.

  • xylo on January 6, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    @Ravi Philar: with your acumen, why would you not retire Sachin Tendulkar? Because he has been performing and reeling off big scores?

  • ObaidAnsari on January 6, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    Indian team is not performing well as a team. Also dhoni should be more aggressive in the field.

  • Flash007 on January 6, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    What a tragic ending to poetic careers! Beautifully written article! It echoes the heartbeat of every Indian fan, to see us win an Away series in Australia, to see these stalwarts go into the sunset in glory, Alas! I can't help but feel emotional & sorry for the most wonderful batsmen of our Era. We were used to see them dominate, used to see them fight back, used to seem them create magic, but never used to see their dreams shattered and ours with them. The recent Eng & Aus series have been a rude tragedy which they have never deserved. Its sad that we have to see them go out scarred. They deserved better.

  • spence1324 on January 6, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    @David-gravites,zzzzzzz change the record mate!,there were no howlers in those games just the normal looking for excuses from india fans who can not figure out why there team is frankly useless outside india!

  • CricketLifer on January 6, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    Analysis should cover more than just how the game is played on the field or how specific batsmen or captain is performing. Seeds of India's demise in Test Cricket have long been sowed when focus changed to limited over cricket - 1st one day matches and then 20/20. Most emerging players want to be those shot makers who please the crowd with 4s and 6s and not really the bowlers who take wickets. Moreover, in limited overs format one does not have to bowl the opponents out, just contain them and let your batsmen score more than they have scored to win but in Test Cricket you do have to take all 20 wickets. Name one strike bowler in Indian squad who can inflict major damage - consistently - there is no one. Until Indian Cricket focuses on development of world class bowlers, we will always be chasing this elusive dreams of test victories.

  • Play_with_me on January 6, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    The last statement in the article sums up our performance. "An hour or so after the defeat in Sydney, the BCCI released the next IPL schedule, a whopping 53-day event. It's all over."

  • McGorium on January 6, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    And so, this is the state of test cricket then. The "top" test sides Eng, Aus, SAF, and Ind can thrash the opposition at home, but not away. I don't see Eng or Aus beating Ind at home, and on the basis of very recent data, neither can India beat Eng or Aus on their home turf. SAF squared their series with India, both home and away (1-1 in each case, as I recall). Then again, I suppose it makes for interesting viewing. As far as India is concerned, it might just be a case of aging batsmen. Dravid getting bowled 4 times in 2 games is a sorry sight for a man labelled "the Wall". Indian selectors need to think of a succession plan soon: even Rohit Sharma would do no worse than Dravid or VVS, and even if he failed, at least the failures would be a learning experience. I think the selectors have been shortsighted in picking Kohli over Sharma, but that's another matter. Maybe one way forward in future is to have a proper opener with sehwag (like Jaffer) and let Gambir bat at #3.

  • nadu_1975 on January 6, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Like what happened to the great Aussie team with retirement some of the greatest players to have graced the game , its time up for the Indians too. But the process of rebuilding will have to be undertaken with collective responsibility of players, administrators and most importantly former players. Just look at Craig Mcdermott, former fast bowler of the 80/90's who now is the bowling consultant of the Aussies. the relative ease with which the Aussie attack has thrashed India has been made possible with the indepth analysis and efforts of this man. Please we too have former players who can step up and play a more active role, instead of doing IPL,commentary etc. Please time is running out otherwise we shall meet the same fate as that of the great West Indies team. good luck.

  • sherishahmir on January 6, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    Sheer disappointment that another subcontinent side after pakistan (1999)who has the ability to beat Ozzies could not achieve this milestone.what should one say after having players like sachin,Segwag, gambhir,Dravid, laxman still not able to beat Ozzies in their backyard. Why harbhagan not selected, India bowling was also reason of that defeat. Shame on all our subcontinent sides who always demolished like leafs of trees in autum whenever they faced Ozzie in their backyard.

  • Pavan_2020 on January 6, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Not sure why we dont entertain the idea of sending sehwag down the order. coming in at around 20-25 overs mark when the ball has lost the shine, i think he will be more effective. anyways he doesnt seem to last more than 2-3 overs coming in as an opening batsman. May they should let dravid open with gambhir and let sehwag come in place of tendulkar/kohli. send laxman 1 down. Sure i understand he is very destuctive as an opening batsman, but just imagine how destructive he would be when the ball is not swinging and has the license to hit with out bothering abt the new ball...

  • Silverbails on January 6, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    Well, so the BCCI have released the next 53 "wunder - event" of the IPL. Who really cares, apart from the accountants!! I, for one, don't think that I'll bother watching any of these pretty inconsequential matches. So long as the BCCI ONLY CARE for the shorter versions of the game - ODI's and T20's - Indian Test cricket will continue to suffer. Perhaps have 5 test series AT HOME against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe is the way forward? Result of this series is only going to be 4 - 0. And, this HOLY GRAIL of Indian Test cricket STILL remains; this is EXACTLY the SAME as that OTHER HOLY GRAIL of Indian cricket: winning a Test Series in South Africa. Ah well, we can continue to dream of successes in BOTH of these countries, for at least the next four years!! Will the Indian Test Team EVER win in these 2 countries - who knows, but the IPL certainly DOESN'T help the cause!!

  • on January 6, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    Seriously! Brian lara has managed a series. That was WI team who never lost a series for 15 years anywhere. Lara was 3 tests old when he played the series am not taking away his contribution of 277 in sydney. But WI had Walsh, Ambrose, Benjamin and Bishop in the attack. They had Hooper, Aurtherton and Richardson in the batting line up. They scraped through to 1 run victory to keep the series alive and then went to win the series in Perth. On his own Lara could not do anything once he lost the bowlers and aussies became stronger. All these cricketers have instilled a belief of winning abroad. I followed Sachin and cricket since 1989, had to wait to see the test match victory outside subcontinent in 2001 in Zim since then have seen NZ beaten away, Eng beaten away, WI beaten away, SA and Aus drawn series, Pak win away. These are significant contribution. The unfinished business will be done by younger India. Please people dont just look at Stats. look at where we are today than before

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 6, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    I'm not sure if the team as a whole is dreaming about the tour but I'm sure that some certain player and his fans have been dreaming about a personal milestone so much so that the media has been going nuts discussing more about it than the series at hand....Shame! Talk of weighing down the team for a personal milestone and misplaced priorities.....Come to think of it, can we import Michael Clarke??? He will straighten out things in our dressing room. Take a bow to Michael Clarke, The Captain true to the word. The team player true to the word. I've never respected an Aussie Captain more. He sure is right up there, in a clas of his own. Michael Clarke = RESPECT. Period! Dhoni is the biggest joke that could have ever happened to any test match team in the world. Very sad to see such a clueless captain leading a test team of 1.3 billion. Well, if a foreign woman can think of leading India and her 1.3 billion people, then why not Dhoni? I'm gutted....Please publish..

  • prathore on January 6, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    A very good Article.. good Job.. We need to make changes in our team, need youngsters.Sehwag should never play test match outside India we are really wasting that spot. Kohli had enough chances, I would rather see Varun Aaron in his place which gives more bowling options. Get the new boys in and give them exposure of the foreign conditions. 3 bigs need to seated than need to be be seated, it is not that we are winning any matches if they play... Just thoughts from an frustrated Cricket fan.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 6, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    For once let's be realistic than being sentimental and emotional. Indian teams/squads haven't been good enough to win on some tours. Having said that, the best chance to win a series was in 03/04 but Bucknor goofed it up big time. Bucknor it is again who goofed it up in astronomical proportions in 07/08. It's too big an ask to win against world champs in the wake of 4 big howlers on the final day in 03/04 and countless howlers in 07/08. England couldn't even save the series on our 07 tour to England in the wake of just one howler in favour of India's tailender. That should give us a perspective of 4 crucial howlers in favour of champion frontline Australian batsmen in 03/04 and the countless howlers on the subsequent tour of 07/08. Not even the mighty Windies in their pomp could beat a minnow like New Zealand when the umpires cheated the Caribbean Tigers on their 1979/80 tour to New Zealand. So, yes, it's a sad story. But move on folks......

  • on January 6, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    is the author sure the trio had a dream?its easy to day dream.im talking about the dream which gives u sleepless nights, which makes u work towards achieving the dream.i know for sure one of the trio has been dreaming about a personal milestone

  • on January 6, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    Dhoni has been and will continue to be the problem; the one who weighs this team down. It's fine to be COOL, but more important and essential to be aggressive. He is so defensive with bowling changes, field settings that it brings down the team morale.Just see how lethargic the fielders get! He is a less than average wicket keeper and poor Test batsman. Just the way S.Africa threw Graeme Smith into the captaincy after the Cronje crisis, so too India should make Kohli or Sehwag the captain. I think Kohli is almost ready. He successfully captained India to a U-19 World Cup .At the same time, retire Dravid, Laxman and Dhoni, and bring in Rohit Sharma, Pujara, Tiwary, Saha or someone who is a better keeper. Make changes now, rather than fall to 7th or 8th in ICC rankings. Learn from Clarke and the Aussie Board.

  • IMEthan on January 6, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    why everybdy is after indian team? who is behind all this debacle? the coach DUNCHEN FLETHER yes tell me if v still had gary kirsten as our coach, we would had never lost like this.. wat is the job of coach n sport staff? dunchen, WHO IS HE? WAT HAS HE DONE AS A PLAYER? WAT HAS ZIMBAWAY DONE OVER THE YEARS? WAT HAS HE DONE AS COACH OF ENGLISH TEAM? COME ON he can have a lot better coach in india wat abt ANIL KUMBlE

  • zain.ul.abideen on January 6, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    I'm a Pakistani fan of sachin. Just a bit surprised to see so much sorrow being felt by the indian cricket lovers. Yes, the series can't be won but its not lost yet. 2ndly, we can't always be expecting miracles from these great stars. maybe indian fans are just used to sachin doing magic all the time for them. But the truth is, these great stars are past their prime unfortunately and you shouldn't realy expect them to win series after series on their own. the whole 11 need to deliver for that. Best of luck to the indian team for the remaining two matches. go sachin go make your century!!!!

  • on January 6, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    Time to leave the stage. You all are great batsmen ! Rahul is the best Test batsman India produced. Laxman was always joy to watch while he bailed out India many times. Sachin is the greatest batsman I have seen most complete , simply the best. Even though Replacements preforms better than you (that itself near to impossible) the same affection and love will not be there because of yous guys on-filed and off-field behavior. It is not easy to put comments like that but very emotional thing to suggest something like that. 99 is good don't chase 100. Zaheer was also best bowler for India in last 4 years. Time to leave India color. Play or don't play Circus I don't care.

  • on January 6, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    As a cricket fan, I have a ton of respect for these 3 wonderful players. They always play cricket the right way and was never involved in any controversies. They are gems and India should be very proud of them. (As a Pakistani supporter, I wish we had one of them:)) But on the flip side, I don't put them on Brian Lara's calibre. To me Brian Lara was better than Tendulkar in TEST cricket. India plays their home tests in India where the wickets are batting friendly, boundaries are shorter and the average score is comparatively high than other countries. Tendulkar - for all his world class talent and class - has not saved or won a lot of TEST matches for India. Lara won and saved matches for West Indies against stronger teams when the chips were down. Anyway, I do recognise for what Tendulkar has done on and off the field. Salute to the little big man. P.S.: Ahh- it was only late 1989 when he came to Pakistan and smacked Mushtaq and Qadir for sixes in Peshawar. Not that long ago:).

  • Ahsan_Shere on January 6, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    Why Laxman is always talked with Tendulkar & Dravid? He is the only specialist test batsman in the game's history with above 130 matches & less than 9000 runs!! Come on people! He is the most over rated player ever. Present day batsmen besides Sachin & Rahul, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Jacques Kallis, Kumar Sangakkara, Ricky Ponting Mike Hussey, Younis Khan, Kevin Peitersen & Mahela Jayawardena all are better bat than him. None of them is better than Tendulkar or one can compare Kallis with him & only two better than Dravid.

  • PTtheAxis on January 6, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    what will it take to take out dhoni ? 20 overseas losses in a row ? maybe even that might not be enough. india is a land of dynasties.

  • arvik on January 6, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    The dream is over. The stalwarts will leave without conquering the final frontier that they always dreamed of. Sorry mates, your skipper let you down at MCG and more so at the SCG. Did any one realize that Australia who won the toss in 2011 against England and in 2010 against Pakistan and opting to bat folded out meekly? Australia ended up in the losing side against England and if not for Kamran Akmal, Pakistan would have thrashed them as well. MS won the toss and elected to bat - that was over confidence & silly. You've to look at history, MS. SCG is a batting paradise but not during the first 4 sessions. MS simply handed it over to Clarke - a slow starter, perhaps. As the legendary Wasim Akram repeated over & over, the body language was always amiss. I believe they didn't want to win it as much as we wanted them to. In fact, at Perth, MS will play Rohit ahead of Kohli when he could get creative and play Ashwin for Kohli and Ojha as the second spinner - the pacers are useless anyway.

  • venkatesh018 on January 6, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    The final words of this article truly sums up the state of Indian cricket: ITS ALL OVER. Everything regarding this Aussie debacle will be long forgotten once the series is over and the next ASSIGNMENT for the players will start. Nothing will change and so Nothing will improve.

  • on January 6, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    A pledge from an ardent cricket fan who has watched every cricket event by paying full fees for last 12 years:

    "I hereby denounce IPL and vow not to watch it again. The modern version of 'Packer Circus' has had its toll and it is not worth my time or money."

  • 5why on January 6, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    When Ganguly scored 102 in Mohali and 85 in Nagpur against Australia, he was advised to retire after the 2 Test series. He did.

    How many of our pro's will be asked the same question now ?

  • faizanshah195 on January 6, 2012, 16:54 GMT

    Love to read the comments of indian fans on a day like this... :)

  • sathish008 on January 6, 2012, 16:51 GMT

    Well Said Monga. That is the fact. - "Trying to draw this series 2-2 and retaining the Border-Gavaskar Trophy will keep them going. Life will go on as well. In fact it already has. An hour or so after the defeat in Sydney, the BCCI released the next IPL schedule, a whopping 53-day event. It's all over. "

  • sashwin on January 6, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    Does the BCCI have any shame? I pray most foreign players boycott IPL, for the sake of saving cricket. The Indian public is equally shameless, they will forget all these humiliations during the IPL. Some useless batsman will hit 6 after 6 in IPL, and thats all Indians want. To see sixer after sixer, and not enjoy 'real' cricket. Tendy will play the IPL, after all he is Ambani's puppet. Dravid, Kumble, and Laxman have principles, Tendu doesn't, all he plays for is personal glory and money.

  • explorer18 on January 6, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    If there was a dream - did they ever really declare their intentions? It appears to me that if India indeed had a clear goal to win the series, the results in the first test might have been entirely different. Players may be great, but it's the team that needs to come together with a common goal to defeat the opponents. For the team to come together with a determination to win, someone needs to take responsibility. That would be the team coach, manager and of course the captain. For three innings, first test was even. What if they went into to the match with a fire in their bellies to just go out there and try to win? Nah! Not this team's style. They respect the opposition, they stick by their players, they think they just have to show up and go through the routines, and somehow everything will turn out OK. That's pretty much been their philosophy. What a waste of this awesome talent.

  • grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr on January 6, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    Better luck next time gentlemen, India just came a whisker to later to take advantage of a weakend aussie team. The Aussies look to be on the road back after some very good bowling and the much mailgned skipper grasping australias respect buy the necki for 1 am eating humble pie and would like to congradulate Micheal Clark on his great effort and captaincy . WELL DOEN SKIPPER..

  • aks1812 on January 6, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    Dravid and Laxman are way past their "use by date" . Their constant self denial of this fact has immensely reduced my respect for them. The horrendous slip catching that laxman and dravid has displayed in last one year tells the complete story.The athletism is just not there and reflexes are long gone. With this reduced ability you are most likely to fail in tough situations.Ganguly did a very wise thing for which atleast now I have the liberty to assume that things would have been different with ganguly at No.7. However in future people would not say similar things for these two.

  • Scrop on January 6, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    When they had the golden chance, they Batted poorly (although not Sachin) and they deserve to come back home empty handed.

  • on January 6, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Unless the IPL is abiolished, our test status will not improve. The circus like event has really tested our pride as a test playing country. Let's stop IPL and concen- trate more on the real form of the game i.e. TEST CRICKET. If we still continue with IPL, our test status will be in total ruins.

  • Rags57 on January 6, 2012, 16:27 GMT

    It is true that these three have been great players but why are we giving too much importance to how they would feel as individuals? Team India needs to win a series in SA and Aus for itself not just for some individuals alone - even if they happen to be great. Let the media stop talking about Sachin's 100th hundred. Let us take a leaf out of Clarke's sacrifice for the team cause when he could have easily gone on to make 400. BCCI is utterly insensitive to India's test standings - money and IPL are their only concerns. All the Indian cricketers including the three greats continue to play IPL and give it fairly high importance. It is only when all of us (fans, media, BCCI and the team) learn to value test cricket and team work as of ultimate importance, we will become a great cricketing nation.

  • on January 6, 2012, 16:27 GMT

    I feel really sorry For these 3 specially RD.. being a gr8 fan of his.. the guy will leave with so many unfulfilled dreams...... Couldnt be the WC winning part.... Culdnt win Test series in Aus and SA ....... Couldnt receive a send off from ODIs with win........ I M in tears...... Hail RD... U were the best and will remain The Best....... !!!!!!

  • samya1980 on January 6, 2012, 16:26 GMT

    THE THIRD TEST SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED TODAY ITSELF BY GIVING 20 MINUTES BREAK..THE WAY INDIANS ARE PALYING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINISHED BY TOMORROW TEA...HA!

  • pvr726 on January 6, 2012, 16:24 GMT

    Couple of major flaws in the article:

    >> Australia, had to be part of reason they kept going at their age

    I would think money was more of a reason

    >> came here this final time with their best pre-series chance of winning

    How exactly did we determine this? Of course Australia was beaten down, but India was no better, after England series white wash.

    All in all, IPL seems to have done an irrevocable damage to Indian test cricket - not just losing, the inability to play the match for 5 days - is a huge cause of concern.

  • intcamd on January 6, 2012, 16:23 GMT

    The last 2 sentences say everything you need to hear; Michael CLarke gave up the IPL millions to focus on winning tests. We have our MS Dhoni, the hero of our impoverished masses, could score 2 runs, and lamely concede the test, and probably already looking forward to returning home and adding to his millions. The board - we all know they could nt care one hoot about India winning; they have their IPL billions. It is a mystery why we continue to root for and patronize this team and this sport.

  • HypeBuster on January 6, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    Guys - Wake up. Our youngsters are not standing up to the challenge and are not motivated by Test cricket. Even Dhoni felt relieved in England, when the ODI series started after the Test series. For aus/eng/sa, their young bowlers/fielders/batsman are standing up. What about India ? How long will Dravid/Tendulkar/Sachin continue to bear the burden ? When will Gambhir/Kohli/Sehwag and Dhoni standup and score some runs or Ishant/Ashwin/Yadav start taking wkts ? This is the difference. They are getting easy money in IPL and other forms. Once this series is over, the Indian public will totally forget about it and also we don't have any test cricket for the next 2 years and we will come back to no. 2 in test, by winning in our own dust bowls. It will De Javuuu all over again and you and me will forget about it and join the bandwagon.

  • Zaynsbaba on January 6, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    While everyone focuses on the "batting gods," one must not forget that the Indian bowlers couldn't get out even half the Australian batting lineup. Dhoni might be a good ODI captain, but his test captaincy is far less than par. Fielding is quite evidently not worthy of a side staking a claim on world no.1. The problems are greater and deeper than what seems to be realized. Pardon me, but the idea of a dream to beat Australia in Australia with this Indian side is laughable. The problems go far into the grass-roots and the subcontinental sports psychology. The problems also lie in the "star culture" of Indian cricket. Pile on top of this the huge distraction of the IPL money, fame and glamour...and you have a monster that will eat the Indian cricket alive...at least the test cricket. And it will continue to embarrass Indian cricket for the foreseeable future. MARK MY WORDS, BCCI will soon be at the forefront of a movement to eliminate test cricket.

  • srivatsan on January 6, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    It's sad indeed but hey do give some credit to Oz bowlers. Not long ago they suffered the same scale humiliation against England. On a flat wicket I had a good hope Laxman and Sachin would grind out a draw but the Aussie attack was more consistent than us. Again not blaming the bowlers what can you do after you got out the first afternoon for a paltry score.

  • on January 6, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    ya they must be feeling very sad abt that but once again remember folks that only these 3 greats cannot win u a series and that too against a tall australian team which we were thinking was a very weak opponent..once again cricket is not an individual game like tennis but a team game where each and every member should perform equally not that sachin or dravid should always score and the rest will be basking on their glory .Any way that's a loss which they will overcome very soon

  • babarzia on January 6, 2012, 16:01 GMT

    as pointed out by a commentator earlier, but worth mentioning again. All the top Indian Australian cricketeres are not short of money, and live a decent life style.

    Question is why did Clarke refuse hit and giggle IPL to concentrate on test tricket, and what dividends if any did this decision pay

  • Beertjie on January 6, 2012, 15:51 GMT

    Solution for future success - send Indian test batters and bowlers to Oz to play BBL each year to get used to conditions.

  • JoydeepGupta on January 6, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    1999, 2007 and this 2011-12 team never had it in them. The only big chance of winning in Aus was in 2003-04 tour under Ganguly's captaincy! But, thanks to Steve Bucknor, and a brilliant last innings by Waugh - we couldn't do it..

  • on January 6, 2012, 15:49 GMT

    When i watch any Australian bowler on the field i see an aggression on their face all the day round. I think that is what defines their way of play. Every Indian batsmen takes precautions on field while batting. But if you see Indian bowlers they are very normal while bowling and even at that time I can see a confidence on the face of Australian batsmen. Maximum of all Indian wickets were taken either at slip position and it was caught behind. But Australian wickets fell not due to good swing but due to their bad timings. So i think India must have a look at this if possible. Seriously speaking want India to draw the series by 2-2. Sachin will get his 100th ton in this series. we all know that.

  • on January 6, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    Yep.. these 3 really deserves a win here.. bt.. not every1 will get wt they want.. they hv shown repeatedly hw to bat in this part of world.. Ya.. Lara might hv done it.. kallis might hv done it.. bt, these 3 didnt hv one thing which Lara and Kallis had.. A solid and long support frm bowlers.. its bowlers who win test matches.. Even though d current series is predicted as most possible chance of Indian win in Aus soil, I feel we gave Aus a run for their money in our previous tours.. which itself was a very big success given our current bowling attack.. Hope they salvage some pride frm their next 2 tests, obviously wid some help frm their teammates, esp bowlers.. Most importantly.. a series win here r not, they wil b still remembered as most successful away batsman in Aus soil.. As a Individual, thats wt v can max ask for.. I repeat, Team win(esp, Series win) is never on any single individual..

  • on January 6, 2012, 15:36 GMT

    :(...poor performancce by indian team.....specially sachin.......

  • on January 6, 2012, 15:34 GMT

    What all these cricket pundits miserably fail to realize is that the problem with Indian cricket team, in the worst of their days, has always been their insipid bowling. If Australian bowlers could keep a disciplined line which can trouble Indian greats the likes of Tendulker (who, lets not forget, arrived in Austrialia early to get acclimatised to the pitches here), why could'nt the Indians! Zaheer is the only bowler of international calibre, rest is just junk, and value of that junk has been arbirarily raised by that pathetic T20 league, known as IPL. How this kind of cricket is going to hurt Indian test team will be further witnessed by everyone in the rest of this series, which I firmly believe, would be a thorough white-wash of Indian team.

  • arun_padmanabhan on January 6, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    Well, no one can achieve everything..a career without a series win in australia will be the biggest black mark in the profiles of these 3..lets hope that the prospect of another series loss down under will bring out something inspirational from them..having said that, its for everyone's good that atleast one among the 3 retire after the series..

  • Rakim on January 6, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Well said writer. It was always a dream: nothing more xD

  • on January 6, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    I just got curious and checked these three greats test records outside subcontinent (excluding Zimbabwe). I was amazed to see till today, Sachin was involved in only 2 series wins (Eng,2007 and Newzealand, 2009). Dravid and Laxman won 3 series (West Indies 2006, Eng,2007 and Newzealand, 2009). Win/Lost for them in those tests are, Sachin 8/32, Dravid 9/24 and Laxman 9/24.

  • Mill1 on January 6, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    At least they won in England in 2007, led by Dravid. Dravid deserves to be at least on the same level of respect as Tendulkar. At least Dravid has the ability to stand up and be counted and speak the honest truth and play for the team. Unfortunately, BCCI, Dhoni have other priorites and is reflected now in the attitudes of the youngsters coming through. Bring back Ganguly for one last final hurrah!!

  • mp110 on January 6, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    @Aidan FX - are you for real re: Sachin? I doubt Sachin will tour Aus again! - He keeps playing because he obviously enjoys cricket and is doing well.

    Contrary to what you say, I don't think he is hanging on - for e.g. he opted not to play in international t20s so that a youngster could take his place. That doesn't sound like a person who is hanging on and playing for the sake of it! Furthermore, he hasn't played an ODI since 2nd Apr 2011 - I personally believe he will not play another ODI - despite being able to walk into the team on form alone.

    Re: the GOD comment - I think you are misguided here - I don't believe he thinks that - words like GOD are used by the media and fans - and quite wrongly.

    Re: 100th hundred - this is a media issue, fanned by newsprint and tv channels including Ch 9 as a marketing ploy - nothing more nothing less. The fact is he got out in the 80s - and funnily enough lots of other batsmen do too1

    re: 1st slip comment : and your evidence is?..........

  • VickGower on January 6, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    If India is at all to get something out of this trip, they must "rest" Dravid and Laxman and expose Rohit and Rahane to these conditions. We will lose the other two tests, but arent those tests lost already? Lets get something out of this trip.

  • veetee2011 on January 6, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Enough is enough. They have given their best and these three are well past their prime. I think it is time for these three to go. They should announce retirement right after this series.

  • BroccoliPower on January 6, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    India; organize that HOME test already! so that "god" can swat the home flies all over to get that darn 100 of his and we can all move the heck on, ALREADY! pshhht "God" my....

  • indyarox on January 6, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    "Life will go on as well. In fact it already has. An hour or so after the defeat in Sydney, the BCCI released the next IPL schedule, a whopping 53-day event. It's all over." - The last few lines say it all. A board which wants to just milk the cash cow and doesnt pay any respect to the game of cricket deserves such a team. We indians should boycott the games. Stop filling the stadiums for IPL and meaningless ODI cricket. The message will definately reach the powers.

  • Nampally on January 6, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    Yes one dream is over. It was total surrender by a demoralized Indian team with no fight left. Dhoni & Kohli failed big time when their batting was need of the hour!Kohli's LBW may have been saved if DRS was in place?. No fighting spirit, no guts, no determination.Once Sachin & VVS were gone in quick succession, the end was a formality.Thanks to late heroics by Ashwin, ZAK & Ishant India reached 400.At least Ashwin showed consistency in his batting in every innings he played so far.Does India really need the sixth batsmen when there is NO production? Another All rounder like Pathan or Jadeja will be an infintely better choice.Fletcher has been a disaster since he replaced highly successful Kirsten. This combined with poor Captaincy by Dhoni & equally poor squad selection has brought a great Indian team to its knees. The way forward is to correct these defeciencies - NOT JUSTIFY them. Fly in Pathan, Jadeja & Dinda to play in the next test & save further humiliation. Wake up Selectors!

  • AB_DeVilliers on January 6, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    India have not won a series in Aus and SA because, collectively as a team, they were not good enough. At differing stages the batting, bowling, fielding and captaincy was not up to scratch. They need to live with it and move on. On this tour, say what you want about the batting, Zaheer Khan for all his experience and skill has been a complete let down. As a result, the bowling, especially in the 2nd test, was mindless. However, it epitomises this Indian team, and those for the past 2 decades - collectively just not good enough to win series abroad in Aus and SA. I don't see this changing anytime soon. Get over it. Move on. IPL awaits.

  • LuvThyGame on January 6, 2012, 14:49 GMT

    the trio havent played well to deserve this.. you cant blame others.. if D, SRT and VVS had matched Ricky, Clarke and Hussey then they could have saved the match.. while they are by far the technically most sound in India, their old age is playing up.. having fielded for 2 days you cant expect those old legs / eyes to bat with concentration.. even on a batting paradise I cannot see any of Dravid, Sachin or VVS making a big Test hundred .. look at Sachins scores.. he plays like a genius for the first 100 deliveries and then somewhere sub-consciously his body/mind starts tiring and he loses concentration and makes mistakes.. .. If I were the Chairman of selectors, I would call Dravid and VVS and request them to announce retirements to get an honorable exit.. the team is losing anyways, it may be good time to groom youngsters.. If Rohit doesnt play in this series, you cant expect him to deliver when India comes back in 3-4 years... he is the future and this is the time to prepare..

  • on January 6, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    In eulogising the three, you are forgetting that it is not just the team's failure but their own individual/collective failure also. It is not as if only the team let them down, they also let the team down often. I look forward to these kind of articles coming up in the event of someone's retirement (they deserve it surely) but not before that.

  • KBCA on January 6, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    Quite simply put, Dhoni does not have any idea about test match captaincy. He is a good ODI captain where containment is the name of the game, but he is seriously lacking the nous and creativity to be even a decent test captain. this series has pretty even sides but the captaincy will lead india to 3 or 4-0 defeat

  • Vpx23 on January 6, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    THE NEXT GENERATION WILL WIN ABROAD.. BRING ON THE BOYS!!!!!!!

  • on January 6, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    A dream that never got realized

  • on January 6, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    @Sunda217: It raises higher level questions as how such a lossing team could win WC 2011? Why such great teams who can beat India in a humiliating manner, cap-sized in WC? Was it because India was destined to win the WC even before it was staged? Was that the reason WC 2011 venue was changed from Aus/NZ to India/SL? Was it because Sachin was destined to retire with a WC win against his name, for all the money his advertizers put into BCCI and ICC coffers with the TV rights? It questions the quality of the WC, the integrity of ICC and BCCI, more than these teams. Remember, the WC winning team has not performed well in ODIs in Eng, and my prediction will not perform well in the coming tri-series as well. If that happens, there should be an investigation into the WC 2011.

  • ravi_hari on January 6, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    A timely piece Monga. Not only did the big 3 fail themselves and India, they have been beaten at their own game. Dravid bowled through the gate 4 times - the wall finally brought down. Sachin got while driving played on and caught. The master stroke becomes his nemesis. Laxman once caught while flicking and twice while shaping to play it on the on-side and leaving at the last minute to be bowled or caught. The wrist gives up! I feel the Aussies did a lot of home work especially after the England tour. They saw how the Indians barring Dravid struggled against the well pitched up deliveries. Pace, placement and movement done them in. Also the way Dravid got out gave them clue to sort him out. Though Clarke said once they get Sachin out the batting folds up and it was true in all 4 innings, I felt mentally the team lost confidence once Dravid got out in each innings. Just to change the bowlers' rythm, Laxman should come in at 3 at Perth. Fortunes might change in India's favour.

  • wolf777 on January 6, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    Didn't you write an piece praising Indian attack? What were you thinking?

  • sharadcsc on January 6, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    For Perth,Team India should opt for Rohit in place of Virat and ask Dravid to open in place of Gambhir with the latter coming at number 3.Dravid is good in leaving the balls and if Dravid and Sehwag could provide a decent start,it could ease the pressure of Gambhir.I would have preffered Vinay instead of Ashwin but looking at India's dismal batting i guess Ashwin should be retained for the lone fact that if not with the ball he can contribute some with bat.Otherwise imagine Zaheer coming at 8 and swinging balls with closed eyes.Ashwin can build useful partnerships with top order batsman and provide a bit of solidarity in batting lineup.India is certainly missing Praveen Kumar in these conditions.He is India's Hilfenhous who would swing the ball all day and go on bowling countless overs.Oz's, i probably think they will retain Lyon and bring Harris instead of injured Pattsion.I hope injury to 21 yr old could help Team India saving some sort of pride in next Test.Best of luck Team India.

  • JustOUT on January 6, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    As I said in the other article, winning a test series in Aus & SA has remained a dream for both Sachin & Dravid. Its a shame for their career. No other words.

  • varunrallapalli on January 6, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    For these three to come back next time to Australia...they need to be on top of their game physically and mentally for 2 or more years, which in all probability is impossible......Its not all over though...India still have pride and Trophy at stake. This famed trio must be complemented well by Gambhir and especially Sehwag....if India are to entertain any thoughts of levelling the series and retaining the trophy.......It would be satisfying for Tendulkar to get his 100th ton at Perth where he impressed one and all with his strokeplay when he was a newcomer in the early 90s...Hope that everything will fall in place for Sachin and Team India at Perth and Adelaide

  • qrk1882 on January 6, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    @ AidanFX... fantastically said mate..."This 100th 100 is totally weighing the team down and I assure you the Aussies know it." Sachin is really playing for his 100th 100. Dravid is a tru Indian Player. Sachin is al about records and ENDORSEMENTS.

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    Brilliantly written article. So true. Maybe in the coming years people will talk about them in the same tone they talk about Bradman not completing the average of 100 runs

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    It has been fairly disappointing to say the least. I think it is important to remember that cricket is a team game. Even when Ganguly was around, the "fab four"had few trophies in the BCCI cupboard despite their tremendous record. So what is the problem? Inability to bowl out the tail. Poor fielding. Poor batting of Gambhir, Sehawag and Dhoni.It actually boils down to the bowling. It is impossible to win the big moments with just one bowler Zaheer khan. While there is no doubting the quality of these wonderful batsmen , the fact of the matter is that batsmen can take you to the next level and open the door for you, but the bowlers and fielders have to close the doors o n the opposition and the fielders have to seal the lid. Bye greats,you did your bit, but at least some of you were part of the World cup triumph. Maybe test cricket is dead as the BCCI will tell you . sridhar

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    When are we going to build the proper infrastructure back home in india ( bouncy tracks, grooming young talent from schools and training in academy)? I think it is time to play well any where in the world not only in india.

  • Juniorklassy on January 6, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    in 2007 - 08 all three came close of winning a Test series in Aus, but for the worst umpiring & worst sportsmanship by Aussies, cost us the series... !! 8-10 decision went against India, in a single test match....!! thats too much... (its not an excuse but a Fact....)

    (Yes ,we are playing poorly in this series, no denying that)

    but feel sorry for this terrific Trio..... they always gave their 100 % when entered the Cricket field....

  • sachin1088 on January 6, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    This is one of the most touching articles to come for sportsmen for sure. people are very fast to come up and say horrible things for the team, they should try to feel what the greats in the game feel like. After giving everything up and having become legends in their own rights in this game, they still have to take abuses every time their team lets them down. Yesterday Dravid said, the indian team needs inspiration. The team doesnt have to look far for inspiration. They have legends amongst them. The look on Tendulkar's face when he got out today, was one of the most heartbreaking sights in cricket, next only to him getting out in the world cup final

  • sharadcsc on January 6, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    The Dream is not dead atleast for Sachin.It could be all over for Rahul and Laxman though.I am sure he will come Australia again no matter whether it is 2014 or 2024.He will look to play tests for atleast 4 more years and i certainly believe he has his sights on WC 2015.He looks very fit as of now and his form has never faded since 1989.Even in the worst phases of his career he was averaging more than 45.Team India lost this test because of wrong decision making from MSD.He should have bowled first and try to extract whatever possible help was their in first two sessions.But once India batted first in good bowling conditions and were shot for 190 odd,it was all over for them as there was nothing left for the bowlers on a flat pitch and then with a trail of almost half a thousand runs they collapsed under pressure.Battingwise both teams are vulnerable and two three wickets from both sided are always walking wickets.Its the extra zip from James,Hilfy and Siddle that gives them the edge.

  • indianpunter on January 6, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    Thank you, Sid for not sugar coating the bitter truth pill. Clarke made test cricket his and his teams ultimate priority and the results are already showing. Mark my words, Australia will be top of the tree within 3 yrs or so. Whereas, we have gone backwards and its all falling in a heap. In England, we could hide behind the injuries ( though the truth was far worse) and here we have been laid bare. This is a shameful day for Indian cricket, more so because BCCI has shown where its priorities lie.

  • boredkumar on January 6, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    spare a thought not only for those three but for people like my self and all those people who will read this article with disappointment. We never got to experience the joy of winning in australia or south africa and honestly i don't know if I would have the same enthusiasm to wake up at 5 am hoping against hope to see india win. its equally disappointing fir the scores of fans who have been kept waiting for the day to come when we can compete abroad, ganguly brought us close but we could not sustain it. A very very sad day indeed. whats worse is that the BCCI wont change they just see the money not the supporters who bring in the money for them.

  • agamgoyal on January 6, 2012, 13:27 GMT

    Whats really astounding ans surprising is too many people are criticizing Dravid, Laxman and Sachin ....Too many people think Sachin's 100th 100 is weighing him down ...I agree it might be ....but the point is he is still by far the best batsmen in the team and i guess he will be for a long time to come ....i think more than Sachin ...the Sehwags, Kohlis , Dhonis and Gautams ...would have been hoping that sachin gets the record ...though not for their good ....but for thinking that by this way the match could have gone into 5th day and ppl wouldnt have noticed our failures as they would be talking about his 100 hundreds ...All 3 Sach, Lax and Rahul have been true champions ...and they will always be true champions ...but the others playing around them don't even get inspired by them ...I mean playing around them should be uplifting but i think for the current lot in the team it is the reverse ..i miss Yuvi nd Bhajji .. they atleast shared the dream ...and to others mint money in IPL

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:25 GMT

    As an Aussie, for patriotic reasons I did not want to see India win this series, but as an unabashed fan of Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman...I cannot help but feel sad that I will be seeing them on these shores for the last time. Oh what joy they have given me over the years! Dravid with his aura of invincibility and defensive nouse that made you feel he could bat for days on end if it was required. Tendulkar with his technical finesse and artistry that made you feel like you were watching a master class everytime he batted...and Laxman who always seemed capable of a stupendous innings against all odds with shots of the supernatural variety thrown in to delight the purists. I do not see the heir apparents in the current crop of Indian youngsters to step into the shoes of these Grand Masters...but, I fear that it is because the IPL is leading the Indian cricketing youth on a rupee laden path directly to hell from which there is no return. I hope I am wrong, I sincerely do.

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    An hard question. If some sensible Aussies can walk away from IPL, Why can't these three greats ? They still play for the franchise. don't they?

  • AndrewFromOz on January 6, 2012, 13:22 GMT

    Sorry Indian fans. They are as soft as butter. Treated as Gods at home, they fail to cope in places like SA and Oz. But it is not just you, the Pakistanis are just as soft....

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    Losing isn't bad. Not fighting is what that hurts the most.

    I feel Perth test will be over in 3 days no matter who replaces whom.

    Zak has no support. Fielding was lacklustre. Batting looks good only on paper.

    BCCI is simply ignoring test cricket. Younger generation is lured to IPL. BCCI should be blamed for the lack of quality in test cricket.

    India doesn't deserve a rank higher than Aussies given their attitude on field.

  • Gillys_club on January 6, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    Good end to the article. My thinking is that this trend of embarrassment in Test Cricket started with the end of IPL in 2011 (sure the tour of Windies followed, but still..) and is going to end with the start of IPL 2012. Its Test embarrassment sandwiched inbetween IPL...

  • rahulcricket007 on January 6, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    it was a heart touching article epecially the last paragraph .

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    It proves INDIA bought the World Cup 2011

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    It was one sided all the way. It was as if Australia was playing against UniversityXI or under 19 team. They took 20 wickets, we took only 4. We lost the match on Day1 itself, the only interest in the game was Sachin's ton. Otherwise it is helpless surrender to Kangaroos. We have become a team to get lost form back, to get debut 5 wickets, to get debut Centuries or any other world records. We are no doubt good at home conditions but some how cant adjust well in other continents. May be home sick....... It make us also sick...........

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    i have no sympathy to them. Great people make their own destiny and not leave it on others. How many times have they failed to play that one innings that would have secured them a series victory in Australia. Well, i do not want to go back to 03 or 07, just back 10 days..3rd day of a boxing day test match..India 100 behind, 7 wkts in hand..dravid and lax at crease..what happened next? bloody talking about sympathy and broken dream..

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    I think indan Team is getting what it deserves . We have not played to the potential and the intent is missing . Dhoni captancy has also been exposed.

  • Juniorklassy on January 6, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    They came close in 2007-08, but for the Umpires... almost 8-10 decisions were against Indians. which cost us the series.... or else today these 3 would have had a Series Victory in Australia, against there name... (no doubt our team is playing poor in this series, no denying that at all) also this was Our best chance to win a series Down under.. hard luck to the True Champions of Indian Cricket .......

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    reading this article made me really really sad !..couldn't read this without a lump in my throat ..:(

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    Cricket is a Team Game, it's not about individuals. Here lies the core problem of People from the Subcontinent, always trying to rate players bigger than the Game itself. This is no different, be it India or Pakistan or Srilanka. As an ardent lover of the Game, more than the fact that the Trio never won Test Matches in Aus or SA, it's worse to see that India as a Team never managed to do it till date. It's always better if there's a healthy competition, whatever Sport it may be. On that note, the World Cricket is in much better order now than the Periods of WI and Australian dominance. The World knows that this Trio is Great and they have performed all over. But to Win and Win Consistently, all in the 11 should play really well and that's what Professional teams think about, be it Australia or England in Cricket or Germany or Spain in Football.

  • on January 6, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    now lets move our focus to ipl..i am intrested more how kohli's raina's and sharma's perform in next IPL thats the big thing and today money matters more than pride..

  • dms1972 on January 6, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    The thing I can't work out is where Gupta.Ankur has gone. And the other thing I'm very confused about is that I was under the impression from all the pre-series talk from Indian fans that this was going to be an easy series win to India. What has happened?

  • d_the_b on January 6, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    Still 4 innings left in this series for Tendulkar to score his 52nd hundred.

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    The dream is dead...!!! As Bill Lawry would say, it's all over. Sachin Tendulkar,Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman--Australia, the land that loved them but broke their hearts , had to be part of reason they kept going at their age. Australia, where they shall never win a Test series. Today, even the most hard-nosed analyst would have felt bad for them.

  • dms1972 on January 6, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    @rahulcricket007, interesting observation you made about how long it took Michael Clarke to score his first double century. It took Tendulkar 10 years of Test cricket before he scored his first double century.

  • dms1972 on January 6, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    To all those who are either illiterate or have blatantly ignored the fact that I have repeatedly said Tendulkar is one of the all-time greats, my argument is not with those who believe Tendulkar is a great, it's with those who think Ponting isn't. They use double standards when comparing Tendulkar to Ponting, & use illogical arguments like, "he never faced Warne & McGrath", "he had great players around him making him look better than he actually was" & "he played well in the 2000's when the bowling was poor", yet don't apply these same ludicrous standards to Tendulkar. Their only valid claim to disregard Ponting's status as a legend is his record in India, & this poor record is basically due to one man, Harbhajan. But this isn't enough to disregard him as a legend because, as I, & many others, have pointed out before, there are many valid reasons why you could disregard Tendulkar's status as a legend. Simple fact is, they are both legends, and anyone who denies it, doesn't know cricket

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    i think the time has come for them to retire... one by one and the test middle order to rebuild

  • dms1972 on January 6, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    To all those who are either illiterate or have blatantly ignored the fact that I have repeatedly said Tendulkar is one of the all-time greats, my argument is not with those who believe Tendulkar is a great, it's with those who think Ponting isn't. They use double standards when comparing Tendulkar to Ponting, & use illogical arguments like, "he never faced Warne & McGrath", "he had great players around him making him look better than he actually was" & "he played well in the 2000's when the bowling was poor", yet don't apply these same ludicrous standards to Tendulkar. Their only valid claim to disregard Ponting's status as a legend is his record in India, & this poor record is basically due to one man, Harbhajan. But this isn't enough to disregard him as a legend because, as I, & many others, have pointed out before, there are many valid reasons why you could disregard Tendulkar's status as a legend. Simple fact is, they are both legends, and anyone who denies it, doesn't know cricket

  • baskar_guha on January 6, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    You cant have it all. No one does. In sport and in life. Stop looking back except to learn. Keep looking forward where anything is possible. That should the mantra for not just for Team India but its many very emotional and regretful supporters.

    So what is possible - a win at Perth and a win at Adelaide which means India retains the Border-Gavaskar trophy for another two years. It will take extraordinary effort but that is what the best are expected to do.

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    All good things come to an end. Indian fan must come to term with it and out of denial. Its over for the generation of Sachin and new generation has to take up their place.

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    You NEVER know... They said the same thing 4 years ago too!

  • Sundar217 on January 6, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    The moment India lifted the 2011 WC, as an Indian cricket fan I was setting up next target as ENG Test series and AUS tour. That would be the rousing end for our greats Sachin, Dravid and Laxman. This loss will be a huge black mark in their career and also Indian team's pride.

    As a world champion in ODI we cannot lose so badly in test cricket, it raises doubts about the quality of cricket we have in India.

  • KK_Cricket on January 6, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Whatever commitment and responsible play the batsmen have shown in Sydney, had that been done in Melbourne, the series would have been level.. And with such a prolific batting line up, we are expected to score 292 (lot less if we had aggressive captaincy)... This attack is not the best Australian attack and we saw that they are playable and can be scored off... its just that the desire is not there with all the batsmen.. Kohli has disappointed the most.. the attitude he shows in limited over matches, was never visible in tests.. we need sensible aggression at no.6 and Kohli should not be in two minds.. he should look to score but stop playing across if he has to be a part of this team...

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Beautiful! And still if the BCCI does not curtail the monster called IPL and cuts it to proper size, then the end of India as a serious cricketing nation is well near...... very near. I raise my glass to you Michael Clarke- you showed the way by not playing IPL and resurrecting a struggling team. When will Dhoni and Kohli's learn that IPL glory on nothing tracks are child's fodder!!!

  • Farce-Follower on January 6, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    A shame that their Board and Captain didn't share their dream.

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    well atleast in South Africs they were competitive and fought a good series, ever since England they have become good only for the weaker teams like WI

  • Nehreer on January 6, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    sachin has looked in very good form only to be undone by some very good bowling the rest of the batting has just fallen apart. overseas we have mostly bowled more or less as good as we have batted but its always the bowling that is criticized its high time the batting lived up to its potential

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    He doesn't has any right to blame Bowlers. His bowlers could have done far better had he shown some faith on them. As soon as batsman hits one or two boundaries either in the direction of deep point , deep extra cover or deep square leg he immediately opts for sweeper on either side of wicket. If he gets discouraged so quickly than there is no point saying that bowlers did not perform. We are primarily a batsman crazy nation. Therefore we are self proclaimed best batting line up in the world. The day we start reducing our hailing and loving attributes for our batsman, our bowling will certainly improve. Its been ages when we played with five bowlers in a match. Four bowlers strategy put a hell lot of pressure on bowlers, whereas on the other hand you still opt for seven batsman in spite names like Tendulkar and Dravid. If Dhoni is a good captain he should scrap this strategy of seven batsman. Who knows such a tactic might end up bringing a all rounder.

  • rsrinath on January 6, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    These three champions (along with ganguly) have been the reason many fans believe that india can win overseas.definitely disappointing they could not experience the joy of winning a series in aus or sa. everyone will have unfulfilled wishes.regardless of whether achiving it or not you will remain in the hearts of every indian fan who have watched you play.definitely india will win next time when they tour this land.thanks a lot for your services to the indian cricket,time for the likes of kohli,rohit,raina,pujara to perform in tests and keep the indian flag flying. all the best team india for the next two tests.... play to your potential, you will be victorious!!!!!

  • ishrat1971 on January 6, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    The last paragraph says it all

  • AidanFX on January 6, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    Meh - It might be the end for Dravid and Laxman - Tendulka wil probably come again; the guy strikes me as someone who will keep playing and playing and playing for the sake of it. Got heaps more respect for Dravid. Listened to his recent press conference; the guy is a real gentlemen - his analysis of the opposition team sounded like an objective commentator and there was less of the robotic statements and cliches associated with press conferences. Does Tendulka actually believe the things his loyal fans say about him - that he is a 'god'. The fact he assumes the right to still Dravid's place as first slip, a position he has been for yrs - leads me to think he believes he just about does. This 100th 100 is totally weighing the team down and I assure you the Aussies know it.

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  • AidanFX on January 6, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    Meh - It might be the end for Dravid and Laxman - Tendulka wil probably come again; the guy strikes me as someone who will keep playing and playing and playing for the sake of it. Got heaps more respect for Dravid. Listened to his recent press conference; the guy is a real gentlemen - his analysis of the opposition team sounded like an objective commentator and there was less of the robotic statements and cliches associated with press conferences. Does Tendulka actually believe the things his loyal fans say about him - that he is a 'god'. The fact he assumes the right to still Dravid's place as first slip, a position he has been for yrs - leads me to think he believes he just about does. This 100th 100 is totally weighing the team down and I assure you the Aussies know it.

  • ishrat1971 on January 6, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    The last paragraph says it all

  • rsrinath on January 6, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    These three champions (along with ganguly) have been the reason many fans believe that india can win overseas.definitely disappointing they could not experience the joy of winning a series in aus or sa. everyone will have unfulfilled wishes.regardless of whether achiving it or not you will remain in the hearts of every indian fan who have watched you play.definitely india will win next time when they tour this land.thanks a lot for your services to the indian cricket,time for the likes of kohli,rohit,raina,pujara to perform in tests and keep the indian flag flying. all the best team india for the next two tests.... play to your potential, you will be victorious!!!!!

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    He doesn't has any right to blame Bowlers. His bowlers could have done far better had he shown some faith on them. As soon as batsman hits one or two boundaries either in the direction of deep point , deep extra cover or deep square leg he immediately opts for sweeper on either side of wicket. If he gets discouraged so quickly than there is no point saying that bowlers did not perform. We are primarily a batsman crazy nation. Therefore we are self proclaimed best batting line up in the world. The day we start reducing our hailing and loving attributes for our batsman, our bowling will certainly improve. Its been ages when we played with five bowlers in a match. Four bowlers strategy put a hell lot of pressure on bowlers, whereas on the other hand you still opt for seven batsman in spite names like Tendulkar and Dravid. If Dhoni is a good captain he should scrap this strategy of seven batsman. Who knows such a tactic might end up bringing a all rounder.

  • Nehreer on January 6, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    sachin has looked in very good form only to be undone by some very good bowling the rest of the batting has just fallen apart. overseas we have mostly bowled more or less as good as we have batted but its always the bowling that is criticized its high time the batting lived up to its potential

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    well atleast in South Africs they were competitive and fought a good series, ever since England they have become good only for the weaker teams like WI

  • Farce-Follower on January 6, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    A shame that their Board and Captain didn't share their dream.

  • on January 6, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Beautiful! And still if the BCCI does not curtail the monster called IPL and cuts it to proper size, then the end of India as a serious cricketing nation is well near...... very near. I raise my glass to you Michael Clarke- you showed the way by not playing IPL and resurrecting a struggling team. When will Dhoni and Kohli's learn that IPL glory on nothing tracks are child's fodder!!!

  • KK_Cricket on January 6, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    Whatever commitment and responsible play the batsmen have shown in Sydney, had that been done in Melbourne, the series would have been level.. And with such a prolific batting line up, we are expected to score 292 (lot less if we had aggressive captaincy)... This attack is not the best Australian attack and we saw that they are playable and can be scored off... its just that the desire is not there with all the batsmen.. Kohli has disappointed the most.. the attitude he shows in limited over matches, was never visible in tests.. we need sensible aggression at no.6 and Kohli should not be in two minds.. he should look to score but stop playing across if he has to be a part of this team...

  • Sundar217 on January 6, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    The moment India lifted the 2011 WC, as an Indian cricket fan I was setting up next target as ENG Test series and AUS tour. That would be the rousing end for our greats Sachin, Dravid and Laxman. This loss will be a huge black mark in their career and also Indian team's pride.

    As a world champion in ODI we cannot lose so badly in test cricket, it raises doubts about the quality of cricket we have in India.