Australia v India, 3rd Test, Perth January 9, 2012

Bouncy pitch awaits India at WACA

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If India are to make a comeback in the series, they will have to do it the hard way. The WACA curator feels the pitch is getting back its original - famously quick and bouncy - characteristics, and expects this track to behave similar to the one used in the Ashes last season, when Australia played four quicks and won the Test inside four days.

Australia have lost James Pattinson to injury but have the services of Ryan Harris and Mitchell Starc should they want to go in with four fast bowlers for the third Test, starting on Friday the 13th. Starc made a case for himself with figures of 3 for 17 in a rain-curtailed BBL game on Sunday night in Sydney.

"We are hoping it will certainly be like last year," Cameron Sutherland, the curator, said. "It [playing four fast bowlers] won't be the wrong decision if the preparation goes as it is expected to."

The proper preparation will begin on Tuesday. Right now the pitch is hard to tell from the outfield. Sutherland is happy with what is underneath. "It is pretty hard underneath," he said. "We have already done a lot of work just getting the grass where we want, coverage-wise. The actual rolling starts tomorrow."

In the BBL game at the WACA on Sunday night, Perth Scorchers scored 184 and won by 42. Expect batting in the Test to be tougher, though. India won the last Test they played here, but this is expected to be a different surface altogether. "We're expecting more pace and bounce than the last time," Sutherland said. "Good cricket wicket last time, but we hope to have maybe an extra 20% pace and bounce."

That won't be music to India's ears, beleaguered as they are by six straight losses away from home. "That's what we are aiming for. We are in a better place now than when India came here the last time," Sutherland said. "We have redeveloped the whole wicket block over the last four years, and we are starting to get some really good results.

"We have changed our soil type, tried to align it to the traditional WACA characteristics. Probably more so pre-1980s, and it has taken a fair while to achieve that. We have also changed the grass type and how we prepare the wicket. We have tinkered with the whole model basically, and come up with something we think is pretty close to the mark."

Sutherland's dream pitch is a kiss-off, where the ball just kisses the surface and bounces off. He says they are getting close to it. "We weren't getting any cracking," he said of the days when Perth lost its bounce, relatively speaking. "We were getting some hardness, but not really hard. We weren't getting grass recovery, which made it hard to get a surface where we could get some nice kiss-off, where the ball hits and carries through. We are pretty close to achieving that now. Mostly that comes from the soil. It's a combination with the grass as well. One allows the other to work in harmony. So we are pretty close to where we want to be."

However, Michael Hussey, a Western Australian himself, is not getting carried away with the pitch. "I hope it's a nice, fast bouncy pitch," he said. "We play those conditions very well. It is very different to what the Indian players are used to from their home country. But having said that, they've got unbelievably experienced players who have been in Australia before, performed well in Australia before, so I expect them to adapt to the conditions pretty quickly."

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • tompuffin on January 12, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    Guys, these players are professionals. They, batsmen especially are paid massive sums of money to bat on these curated pitches. If they're bouncy, flat or turning so be it! It makes the game interesting. It's terrible that people are moaning about the wicket all the time, because face it, it's not like they roll a new one at the end of each day. If a team didn't pick the right bowlers, then that's too bad! The batsman have even less of an excuse, because this is what they should have been training for. Anyway, at the end of the day, as one of the Australian players said, they're still going to be sending the ball down at the same speed.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 11, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    @indianpunter, of course nothing wrong in making pitches to suit the home side. I'm just trying to spread the phrase - 'dodgy grassbowls' for pace friendly tracks. Well, we have more than a handful of terms for spin friendly tracks making the rounds - dustbowls, underprepared and dangerous dustbowls, dodgy dustbowls, flat tracks, dead tracks, batsmen friendly tracks, batting paradises (pray how?) and whatnot just because they don't support one kind of bowling - that is pace. Am I clear now? Oh yes, Australia definitely deserved to win and big up to our Aussie Comrades. Nothing against their team. It was a pleasure watching Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, Pattinson, Hilfy and Siddle, in no particular order. When there is a consensus among fans that we will address all kinds of tracks with respect, I shall also stop using the term 'dodgy grassbowls". :)

  • chokkashokka on January 11, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    Looking at the quality of these 3 day wickets is just appalling. The kiwis used to prepare such grazing fields and India stopped touring over there - BCCI should do the same with all the rag-tag boards that don't have a pot and perhaps that ought to knock some sense into them. The Indian masses should keep their sets tuned to other entertainment - send a message to the advertisers that series on sub-standard wickets will not be watched. No money no honey - simple. Might as well decide the game on the toss and not waste anyone's time.

  • Meety on January 11, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - no worries, I see where you're coming from, for what it is worth, I don't bag Indian pitches (in general) as being dust bowls, an exception was that Mumbai shocker. I think pitches around the world should have different characteristics, the problem with India is, if they persist in low grassless turners, that's all they'll ever be good on. I also didn't think that the SCG or MCG were that much of a "grass bowl" - the 2nd Test against NZ in Hobart was so unreal it could be described as a Rainforest!!!! BTW - I've heard a fair bit of discussion about the colour of the pitch & they are having heatwaves & bushfires across the state in WA (opposite to what is happening on the Eastern Seaboard), so the curator will keep it well grassed till just before the Test & then shave it down. You don't want a WACA pitch cracking badly on the first day - there is not enough protective equipment to endure that!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 10, 2012, 23:42 GMT

    @Mitcher, agree with you. That's a more balanced view and I see that you didn't call our challenging spinning tracks as dustbowls and dodgy dustbowls and all of that nonsense. I would want more people from your part of the world, England, SA and New Zealand to address our turning tracks with respect instead of deriding them as flat, dead, batsmen friendly etc...A turning track is different from a batting paradise or dead or flat....If a track starts to spin, non-subcontinent people are quick to use ludicrous terms like dodgy dustbowl etc instead of respecting it as a challenging spinning track. That's the reason why I'm deriding the challenging pace tracks as dodgy grassbowls.....not that I don't realise that they actually are challenging pace friendly tracks.

  • Mitcher on January 10, 2012, 21:14 GMT

    In all seriousness, I'd love a considered answer from some Indian fans. If Australia is producing doctored wickets to suit the home team: why a raging greentop (the only one of summer so far) in Hobart for NZ, who love those conditions? Why a batting paradise for India in Sydney? Why a seamer (along with the standard swing) in Perth when our batting has been ripped apart in similar conditions multiple times? I might add I have no problem with turning tracks in India - that is the natural state of pitches in that part. I only complain about Indian pitches when they offer nothing for bowlers and simply produce draws and batfests. Have regularly bemoaned the flat rubbish tracks we've seen in Australia until recently.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 10, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    @Meety, that's just my way of saying it. If spin friendly tracks are being derided as dodgy dustbowls then pace friendly wickets will be derided as dodgy grassbowls. Let's get rid off both the terms and address both the tracks with respect. It should first start from non-subcontinent fans by stop using the phrase dodgy dustbowls because they started it first :).

  • stormy16 on January 10, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    I think this is great to see the WACA going back to what it was and hopefully some great match up's say Steyn V Clark or Pattinson V De Villiers. I think having different wickets in different countires or even within a country is great and expected. Just dont complain when you come to the sub-continent of low spinning tracks!! The thing that amazed me most is not that a spinning SCG and Perth is suddenly flying, but the complains when Aus tour to Asia, constantly complaining about the tracks. One thing about asia is the wickets have always been the same - slow, low and spin friendly - its never changed and its the same for every opponent. Wonder if the Aussies will produce the same wickets is SA were the touring side.

  • indianpunter on January 10, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    @ Dravid_Gravitas, there is no harm in making pitches to suit the home team. India has done that for decades. So your sarcasm is clearly out of place. Sydney and melbourne were decent pitches. There is no shame is accepting that India lost to a better prepared, fit, more committed side. And one that puts test cricket first.

  • JWTragic on January 10, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    @VikkuVinakaram - Perth has ALWAYS been fast and bouncy with the exception of the past 5-7 years in the period after they relaid the square. We used to host the West Indies in the 1970s and 1980s with the fastest and bounciest pitch in the world in Perth and get smashed by them - that's what Test Cricket is about: testing both teams under various different conditions. Australia has traditionally had one seaming pitch (Brisbane - and now Hobart), one fast and bouncy (Perth), one low and slow (Melbourne), one road for batting (Adelaide) and one raging turner (Sydney). Unfortunately, ODIs and 20-20 have hurt these pitches, as has their dual use for Aussie Rules football. I think having a variety of pitches in one series is to be applauded. In fact, if anything, India should be looking forward to a fast, bouncy pitch: it's not as if their team is overloaded with quality spinners, is it?

  • tompuffin on January 12, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    Guys, these players are professionals. They, batsmen especially are paid massive sums of money to bat on these curated pitches. If they're bouncy, flat or turning so be it! It makes the game interesting. It's terrible that people are moaning about the wicket all the time, because face it, it's not like they roll a new one at the end of each day. If a team didn't pick the right bowlers, then that's too bad! The batsman have even less of an excuse, because this is what they should have been training for. Anyway, at the end of the day, as one of the Australian players said, they're still going to be sending the ball down at the same speed.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 11, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    @indianpunter, of course nothing wrong in making pitches to suit the home side. I'm just trying to spread the phrase - 'dodgy grassbowls' for pace friendly tracks. Well, we have more than a handful of terms for spin friendly tracks making the rounds - dustbowls, underprepared and dangerous dustbowls, dodgy dustbowls, flat tracks, dead tracks, batsmen friendly tracks, batting paradises (pray how?) and whatnot just because they don't support one kind of bowling - that is pace. Am I clear now? Oh yes, Australia definitely deserved to win and big up to our Aussie Comrades. Nothing against their team. It was a pleasure watching Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, Pattinson, Hilfy and Siddle, in no particular order. When there is a consensus among fans that we will address all kinds of tracks with respect, I shall also stop using the term 'dodgy grassbowls". :)

  • chokkashokka on January 11, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    Looking at the quality of these 3 day wickets is just appalling. The kiwis used to prepare such grazing fields and India stopped touring over there - BCCI should do the same with all the rag-tag boards that don't have a pot and perhaps that ought to knock some sense into them. The Indian masses should keep their sets tuned to other entertainment - send a message to the advertisers that series on sub-standard wickets will not be watched. No money no honey - simple. Might as well decide the game on the toss and not waste anyone's time.

  • Meety on January 11, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - no worries, I see where you're coming from, for what it is worth, I don't bag Indian pitches (in general) as being dust bowls, an exception was that Mumbai shocker. I think pitches around the world should have different characteristics, the problem with India is, if they persist in low grassless turners, that's all they'll ever be good on. I also didn't think that the SCG or MCG were that much of a "grass bowl" - the 2nd Test against NZ in Hobart was so unreal it could be described as a Rainforest!!!! BTW - I've heard a fair bit of discussion about the colour of the pitch & they are having heatwaves & bushfires across the state in WA (opposite to what is happening on the Eastern Seaboard), so the curator will keep it well grassed till just before the Test & then shave it down. You don't want a WACA pitch cracking badly on the first day - there is not enough protective equipment to endure that!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 10, 2012, 23:42 GMT

    @Mitcher, agree with you. That's a more balanced view and I see that you didn't call our challenging spinning tracks as dustbowls and dodgy dustbowls and all of that nonsense. I would want more people from your part of the world, England, SA and New Zealand to address our turning tracks with respect instead of deriding them as flat, dead, batsmen friendly etc...A turning track is different from a batting paradise or dead or flat....If a track starts to spin, non-subcontinent people are quick to use ludicrous terms like dodgy dustbowl etc instead of respecting it as a challenging spinning track. That's the reason why I'm deriding the challenging pace tracks as dodgy grassbowls.....not that I don't realise that they actually are challenging pace friendly tracks.

  • Mitcher on January 10, 2012, 21:14 GMT

    In all seriousness, I'd love a considered answer from some Indian fans. If Australia is producing doctored wickets to suit the home team: why a raging greentop (the only one of summer so far) in Hobart for NZ, who love those conditions? Why a batting paradise for India in Sydney? Why a seamer (along with the standard swing) in Perth when our batting has been ripped apart in similar conditions multiple times? I might add I have no problem with turning tracks in India - that is the natural state of pitches in that part. I only complain about Indian pitches when they offer nothing for bowlers and simply produce draws and batfests. Have regularly bemoaned the flat rubbish tracks we've seen in Australia until recently.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 10, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    @Meety, that's just my way of saying it. If spin friendly tracks are being derided as dodgy dustbowls then pace friendly wickets will be derided as dodgy grassbowls. Let's get rid off both the terms and address both the tracks with respect. It should first start from non-subcontinent fans by stop using the phrase dodgy dustbowls because they started it first :).

  • stormy16 on January 10, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    I think this is great to see the WACA going back to what it was and hopefully some great match up's say Steyn V Clark or Pattinson V De Villiers. I think having different wickets in different countires or even within a country is great and expected. Just dont complain when you come to the sub-continent of low spinning tracks!! The thing that amazed me most is not that a spinning SCG and Perth is suddenly flying, but the complains when Aus tour to Asia, constantly complaining about the tracks. One thing about asia is the wickets have always been the same - slow, low and spin friendly - its never changed and its the same for every opponent. Wonder if the Aussies will produce the same wickets is SA were the touring side.

  • indianpunter on January 10, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    @ Dravid_Gravitas, there is no harm in making pitches to suit the home team. India has done that for decades. So your sarcasm is clearly out of place. Sydney and melbourne were decent pitches. There is no shame is accepting that India lost to a better prepared, fit, more committed side. And one that puts test cricket first.

  • JWTragic on January 10, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    @VikkuVinakaram - Perth has ALWAYS been fast and bouncy with the exception of the past 5-7 years in the period after they relaid the square. We used to host the West Indies in the 1970s and 1980s with the fastest and bounciest pitch in the world in Perth and get smashed by them - that's what Test Cricket is about: testing both teams under various different conditions. Australia has traditionally had one seaming pitch (Brisbane - and now Hobart), one fast and bouncy (Perth), one low and slow (Melbourne), one road for batting (Adelaide) and one raging turner (Sydney). Unfortunately, ODIs and 20-20 have hurt these pitches, as has their dual use for Aussie Rules football. I think having a variety of pitches in one series is to be applauded. In fact, if anything, India should be looking forward to a fast, bouncy pitch: it's not as if their team is overloaded with quality spinners, is it?

  • HatsforBats on January 10, 2012, 9:57 GMT

    @ landl47; boring! Why should test pitches follow such a pre-determined formula of behavior? Different pitch properties provide for squad flexibility and selection dilemnas; aren't you glad Aus screwed up by not picking Hauritz for the Oval? A fast seaming pitch may not turn sideways but it will provide bounce, and a skillful bowler will make the most of it; Warne loved bowling at the 'Gabba. I also don't know why any Indians would be complaining considering how fragile our batting has been; Ishant could be an absolute handful on that pitch.

  • on January 10, 2012, 9:37 GMT

    Apart from Weak domestic Structure in India the Problem equally arise due to unequal FREQUENCY scheduling in series between the Two Countries.If we all sees in last 10 years Australia tours India almost every years e g 2001(3 test 5 ODI),2003 (TRI SERIES with NZ as other team).2004(4 test),2006(champions trophy),2007(7ODI),2008(4 TEST),2009 (7 ODI),2010(2 TEST,3ODI),2011 (WORLD CUP),While during the same period India Toured Aus in 2003,2007 and now in 2011 that is gap of 4 years,Beside this The Aus players are regular visitors due to IPL.Thats the reason Aus quicky adjust in India were as exactly opposite India struggle in Down under,If the same thing reversed many quarters of media and Aus cricket expert first made this point.Give India to tour Aus atleast once in 2 year and let see how the performance cant improves

  • on January 10, 2012, 9:27 GMT

    If India manage to win the last Test at PERTH 4 Years ago against compaqratively 100 times better Australian side than this one they got to belive that they will repeat the same at present too.Nothing are impossible to achieve Indians can regained their lost pride by winning the next two test which they can be capable of too

  • rkannancrown on January 10, 2012, 8:45 GMT

    Where is the pitch in the photo ? It appears to be outfield everywhere. The big difference between BCCI & CA is evident in the way the pitch is prepared. CA or ECB, for that matter, tailor make pitches to suit the hometown. if Australia or England visit India and are given a pitch where the ball turns a shade, we can see the teams, aided by ESPN & Crico info commentators, bemoan the lack of sporting piches & how the pitches in India favour the home team.

  • VikkuVinakaram on January 10, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    If Indians welcome visitors with a dustbowl it is shameless act however if Australia welcomes visitors with grassbowl (read Pitch), it is not ... what a funny game. :-)

  • on January 10, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    If Waca pitch reacts the way ptch man described thn it will be a nightmare for indians definitely aussies will win and we might see india lowest total of test matches :D

    WACA always one of my fav grounds because of extra bounce and pace eagerly waiting to see another inning defeat and aussies thrashing so called best batting line up hahahaha flat track bullies :D

  • stalefresh on January 10, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    You coud make a spinning cobra at Perth, and India will still struggle. The only reason for that is IPL.

  • Meety on January 10, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas - agree that it looks hard to find a pitch there - but I guarantee it won't be that colour in the next day or so. "...A dodgy grassbowl again?" What other pitches in this series were "grassbowls"?

  • Bigbanger666 on January 10, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    @Spence 1324 Sounds about right to me.

  • The_big_j on January 10, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    IPL has single handedly destroyed Indian cricket.

  • cricket4evar on January 10, 2012, 5:19 GMT

    i feel india are about to be pummuled again with aggressive fast bowling. Poor dhoni seems to be having as bad a turn these last 8 months as compared to the brilliant run in his first few years. Get ready for a right royal drubbings india,

  • johnathonjosephs on January 10, 2012, 5:08 GMT

    imagine Ambrose playing for the Indians at the WACA *drools* India could potentially win by an innings then

  • on January 10, 2012, 4:35 GMT

    I think India should sit out their old horseslike Laxman ,Dravid and Tandulkar and should include new players who could play fast bowler son fast pitches.It is high times if these players do not get retired they should be thrown out toinclude fresh players whocouldgainexperience in sich conditions.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 10, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    Surely the most obvious decision is Ryan Harris instead of Starc? I would even put Mitchell Johnson back in the squad over Starc. Starc is not threatening at all

  • johnathonjosephs on January 10, 2012, 3:52 GMT

    Why don't young Indians/Sri Lankans/Pakistanis go do some English County Cricket? All the legends of old have done it and got experience outside the subcontinent. It really helps for bowlers and batsman to get experience both in the game and in the conditions outside subcontinent. Why doesn't Kohli or Thirimanne or Yadav or Thissara do it? Oh yea, I forgot, they have the IPL now

  • RoJayao on January 10, 2012, 2:41 GMT

    India have got a lot more problems than the pitches they're facing and if the comments on here are in any way indicative of the thoughts running through the minds of the Indian team, they're already psyched out and have lost. Suck it up people, this is test cricket!

  • CricketFanInLosAngles on January 10, 2012, 2:37 GMT

    To find out which Indian batsman needs to be dropped we need see who is likely to succeed/fail at the fast and bouncy WACA pitch. Sehwag is hit or miss he can get out low to 20-30s or Aussies panic maybe upto 70s. Gambhir will have real trouble with the bounce and the Aussies will definitely bounce him. He is likely to get out in 0-20s. Dravid is fighter and should stay. Tendulkar is in good form, except for some bad decisions at critical times. Laxman is likely to score between 10-40s, unless he really turns it on. Doubt it. Kohli has flaws in in his batting and has yet to prove in tests. Also Aussies know how to get him out, LBW. Rohit has the technique and potential. But it would be baptism with fire. But he will score 20-60s. So I would think of replacing Laxman and Gambhir (if we can find another leftie, which is not going to happen). Looks like Laxman will have to sit out this test match.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 10, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    Where's the pitch in that picture ( O _ O )? I don't see any pitch there! A dodgy grassbowl again? Shame!

  • donda on January 10, 2012, 1:58 GMT

    Wow if that's going to be 80's pitch then match will end in 4 days. australia winning easily because old reflexes cannot handle bounce and pace.

    I hope WACA stands up to it's reputation and give us fast bowling paradise. Looking forward to it.

    No hopes for india but aussies are gonna win easily.

  • on January 10, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    Why there are no Indians playing in the Big Bash League. A few good Indian players could have been short circuited into the test matches. They would have been conditioned to the weather and pitches by now. There is a need to strategically exploit the Australian summer. BCCIs ego should not come before the teams fortune. Indian fan sentiment is bigger than BCCIs ego. Would have loved to see Patan brothers, Vijay, Karthik, Badri, Tiwari, Panday and Rayudu get some runs. Wouldnt mind seeing Ganguly and Harbajan too.

  • Meety on January 10, 2012, 1:25 GMT

    @landl47 - mate, on the topic of pitches what you described is IMO right for all pitches EXCEPT the WACA. It's unique & I think that is good for cricket. Otherwise lets just get drop in pitches!! Don't forget that a true WACA pitch gets plate cracking under hot conditions (almost Day 1). If we had a Warne or MacGill we wouldn't be debating a 4th quickie!

  • Meety on January 10, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    @ allblue - you could be excused for thinking there was a conspiracy to homogenise the pitches, but this was partially due to the SCG & WACA being relaid. The SCG use to be one of the fastest tracks in Oz in the 50s & 60s, but most remember it has the place where Oz could ambush the mighty WIndies in the 80s, (it was a pitch coming to the end of its life). The worst pitch in Oz has usually been the MCG, it was mainly due to Football played right up until the cricket season, & then more recently drop in pitches. I believe this will just about be the last year the Adelaide Oval will be played on a non drop in pitch, (IMO a shame). IMO - any Test championship should be played in Oz because it does have the widest range of character of pitches in World Cricket. A pity Darwin cant be used much in summer due to monsoons, as the couple of International matches I seen of it, it was almost Indian.

  • RSBali on January 10, 2012, 1:19 GMT

    If it finished in four days last year, it may finish in three this year!

  • Naresh28 on January 10, 2012, 1:17 GMT

    Rohit should replace Kohli who is on the short side and therefore will not succeed. If India wanted to use an additional pace bowler from the bench then there is none to choose from - a selection blunder. Its not VVS that needs replacing but one of Shewag, Gambhir, Kohli or Dhoni who are freebies. The un-balanced Indian team needs to be revamped in future.

  • Meety on January 10, 2012, 1:15 GMT

    @Haroon Hameed - IF the WACA behaves like the WACA of old, it actually gets QUICKER on Day 2. Batting first may be the way to go! @ HashmiMA - rubbish, you are the holders of the Border-Gavaskar trophy, it is on the line, India must try & win. No Dream series, but there is a trophy cabinet to keep stocked! @ smudgeon - I agree, I wonder if they were saying they are trying to get the pitch to crack? Because behind pace & steepling bounce, I use to love the way pitch would crack under extreme heat. The WACA use to get cracks more obvious than a plumber bending over! @ Cpt.Meanster - mate GOOD pitch preparation is like cooking/brewing. That's why they have Horticultural degrees & usually have years on the job training before they get the top job! The WACA was re-laid aboutrs ago, that's why there is a bit of fuss about it (helped India 4 yrs ago)!

  • AvidCricFan on January 10, 2012, 0:45 GMT

    Indian team need to look at benching Gambhir, Laxman, Kohli and Ashwin if the wicket shows pace/bounce character. Though, Ashwin is a delima right now. He is the second best batter in the team. Seeing how Gambhir and Laxman batted, I dont think they stand chance on a pacy wicket.

  • serious-am-i on January 10, 2012, 0:37 GMT

    can we please see another "Bodyline" line and lengths in the Perth. Please, please I would love to see the Indians getting beating down these guys are not ready to give up cricket otherwise especially the so-called legends. I would include Rohit in the squad and drop whom.. umm.. difficult question..,, All the Indian players are in terrific form with scoring 100 from 1 to 7.. Hope I witness the blood shed for the betterment for the future of the Indian team.

  • sk12 on January 10, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    Well I for one think the bouncy wicket would suit the Indians more (nevermind they ll ultimately lose) - Their battting will anyway collapse, atleast have some help for the bowlers.. so that the opposition dont rack up 600+ runs and totally demoralize the team.... I have enough confidence in Zaheer, Umesh and Ishant to run thru the Oz batting on a green top.. Heres hoping that the Indian batting (atleast a part of it) somhow manages to punch above its weight and get a competetive score..

  • Mitcher on January 10, 2012, 0:29 GMT

    Let's also not forget that SCG was talked up as being a minefield and turned out to be a batting paradise (despite what the indian batsmen made it appear at times).

  • on January 10, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    Dont worry India isnt so weak that it cant beat Australia,The pitch will also help Indian bowlers and as well India has beaten Australia about 2 yrs ago.

  • ultrasnow on January 10, 2012, 0:03 GMT

    Open with Gauti and Dravid, VVS at No.3, Sehwag down the order. Drop Kohli, play an extra bowler. Show intent.

  • on January 9, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    here's hoping for another spanking

  • redneck on January 9, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    @landl47 while i agree in theory, the waca is one of those unique pitches in the world that add to the legend that is test cricket. i could say the same about headingly over in england has no help for spin. but that doesnt make it a bad pitch infact its a result oriantated pitch! also i have no trouble rolling out a fast bouncy pitch for india. after all we used to roll out the very same type of pitch when the west indies toured in the 70's/80's and we got smashed, only fair that we use it to our advantage now. you guys saying a bowler friendly pitch is the best chance india have???? no indias best chance is in adelaide on the closest thing australia have to a sub continent wicket, bowler friendly wickets and india dont go together! zaheer is a good bowler but his strength is getting the ball to do things on the most placid of tracks, not using bounce and pace to unsettle opposition batsmen.

  • xylo on January 9, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Call me ignorant, but can someone explain how the pitch that was used for the T20 match could be modified like the curator says so quickly?

  • CricketFanInLosAngles on January 9, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    Both teams batting will have same problems on this pacy wicket. Indian bowlers can take advantage of the pitch same as the Aussie bowlers. The Aussie bowlers are better equipped with pace though. But one Indian bowler has more guile and may offset that. The real difference would be in how the batting holds up. Both teams batting is fickle right now. I would discount the last test as it was perfect for batting. If the Indian team stick to their plan and are aggressive they can be equal to Aussies. For Aussies if the batting can handle the pressure, then they can come out on top. Should be fun test though. Too bad Irfan is not in the team. We need a bowling allrounder. Definitely need to include Rohit and drop Virat. Laxman is still good for this series. Sehwag is all good in Sub-continent conditions. Not so in Aussie conditions. I guess, he will keep his place.

  • on January 9, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    Ashwin should not only be classified as the best Indian all rounder , but he is also the best Indian batsmen OVERSEAS.

  • smudgeon on January 9, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    I agree with the comments below regarding pitches should be prepared with local characteristics and flavour (although I think some comments are more petulant than even-handed!). A few people in recent times have mentioned that Australia should prepare one or two turning pitches (Darwin & Canberra have been mentioned as possibilities) that are used to a) give spinners a chance, b) prepare Australian batsmen for tours to India & SL, and c) add more variety to the playing conditions on offer. I have no qualms about Indian curators preparing dustbowls or turners for test cricket - and it should be the same for Indian fans expecting traditional Aussie pitches. Overcoming unfamiliar conditions is all part of the 'test'...

  • Shrekk on January 9, 2012, 21:12 GMT

    Absolutely typical indian attitude: moaning about SOMETHING OR THE OTHER!! They could NEVER in their lives admit that "everything is fair and this is the best that our cricket could ever offer. We LOSE not because of injuries, umpiring, wickets, selection etc. but because we're still not good enough and we have to accept that!!"

  • on January 9, 2012, 21:10 GMT

    I really don't mind crickket played on a pitch that is similar to the one in the picture.its very exciting to watch batting collapes.most of us will agree that 600 runs scored by our team is less interesting than to see opposition scoring 150.

  • gandalf_gray on January 9, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    Lots of people make these mistakes

    1) Pitches in India are *not* turning the way it used to in the 90's. The real turner is one that turns 'fast'. Most Indian pitches in the last 10 years have been slow turners on day 4 and day 5 - one of the reasons Harbhajan hasn't done as well as Kumble used to in the 90's

    2) There is absolutely nothing wrong in having grassy wickets. In fact I don't mind a pitch that is totally in favor of bowlers (be it seamers or spinners). What is cricket without these variety of conditions ? Thats what makes our sport so unique.

  • Alexk400 on January 9, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    It is simple. Sehwag fails Indian team fails in overseas!.

  • Alexk400 on January 9, 2012, 20:07 GMT

    India team is divided. Every man for himself. simple. Team players are not fighting as single unit. India did not even fight say more about the team. Losing is fine. Not fighting and giving up is not accepted.

  • Buggsy on January 9, 2012, 19:59 GMT

    @landl47 - that's just wrong. A proper pitch is one that provides good cricket and is fair to both teams. Who cares if spin is neutralised? I love watching quicks dominate and the batsmen quiver!

  • on January 9, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    bouncy wickets will definitely support the Aussie fast bowlers, Indian bowlers may not be able to take advantage of fast & bouncy wickets.Also indian batsmen are struggling against the extra bounce.

  • InnocentGuy on January 9, 2012, 19:48 GMT

    I really don't understand why it is so hard for the Indian batsmen to counter the pace and bounce. I mean I know it's not easy. But they have come early, they practice a lot, and after more than 3 weeks, you'd think that they can at least stroke the ball around a bit and not fall in a heap like they do. I know the team has the collective ability to do so but for some reason they are always intimidated.

  • Mitcher on January 9, 2012, 19:48 GMT

    How quickly things change!! Just weeks ago many Indian fans thought they were HILAAARIOUS referring to aust's 47 etc and telling us how their attack would do something similar to us with seam and swing. Now it's all whinging and moaning about the pitches. Firstly, READ THE ARTICLE!! It clearly states preparation hasn't even begun, hence the wicket being so green still. And to those saying India should respond by preparing rank turners for aus, eng, SA.... Umm, how would that differ from the past 40 years?!?!

  • on January 9, 2012, 19:47 GMT

    Aussies are good at pace bowling but they got bowled for 47 against SA quality pace. India should play their heart out and give them a good lesson. It is about confidence and Indian bowlers can do better than this. Dhoni should take charge and set a attacking field and give support and confidence to his bowlers. When Aus was 3 down in their last match, where is attacking field. The bowlers became complacent and allowed many runs. I think, India should opt for Rohit instead of Dravid. What do you think? Go India!

  • on January 9, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    Maybe it would not be a bad idea to open the batting with Dhoni/ Ghambir, & Dravid ? give the Australian bowling something to think about. with the extra bounce it might be a bit more difficult to hit Dravid's stumps. If they bat first Dhoni can be an attacking option just like Sehwag but maybe a bit less inclined to throw his wicket. Then Sachin @ 3. If India are in a good position then Sehwag @ 4 then Kholi , Laxman & the tail.

  • bumsonseats on January 9, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    if the pitch is going to be in that jungle i would be surprised. australia needs wickets similar to the 1st 2. just a healthy covering of grass, making it green will give the indian bowlers a chance. its not as if the aussies top 3 are much cop. added to 2 oaps and a wicket keeper who keeps dropping catches and no runs and a captain who till the last test most wanted rid of. dpk

  • igorolman on January 9, 2012, 19:28 GMT

    I'm glad the WACA is going back to its roots (no pun intended). While people say a good cricket wicket should be x/y/z, variety is the spice of life. After all, didn't Sydney used to be a raging 'Bunsen'? And Adelaide a total shirtfront. It's nice to have one or two wickets around the world that tilt the balance one way or the other - otherwise, why don't we just play on artificial wickets? Good on Mr. Sutherland. And to all the Indian fans moaning ... there is nothing wrong with making a turning track. Nobody objects, we expect it in the sub-continent. However, given that pitches deteriorate over time, and that tends to make batting against spin harder, a pitch that rags from ball one is no use. Turning square on day 4 or 5? Not a problem. It's part of the test that Test cricket offers. After all, do you think the ball is going to skyrocket off a length at Perth on day 5? Unlikely ... if only because the Indian batsmen haven't looked particularly keen to play 5 days!

  • sashi94 on January 9, 2012, 19:27 GMT

    hhillbumper.. so growing grass on a pitch requires a talented curator? nice joke. Go look up Jacque Kallis (RSA), Greame Smith (RSA), Andrew Strauss (ENG), Mohammed Yousuf (PAK), Younis Khan (PAK), Mahela Jayawardene (SL), Inzamam ul Haq (PAK)and Kumar Sangakkarra (SL).. These are arguably the best non Indian test players of this decade and look at their averages in Australia. All their averages drop 10-15 runs on Australian pitches. Lots of credit must go to the bowler friendly wickets. ONLY Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman have a higher avg in Australia then their regular career avergaes. maybe you are complaining about the wrong people here..

  • theRule19 on January 9, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    There is no problem in playing I.Pathan in place of I.Sharma, but the only problem here is that Pathan does not have pace and when the conditions are not swing friendly, he can go for a lot of runs unless he improves on pace. Batting wise no doubt that he will be a great addition to the team.

  • on January 9, 2012, 18:50 GMT

    I 'm happy to Sreeshanth in Australia as 4 th bowler :: He may be crank , HUL-BUL but he bowls some extrodinary wicke t taking delivery ... and one of very good INDIAN SEAM bowler who can howl out swingers ;

  • TheVoiceOfReason on January 9, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    Mike Hussey you diplomat, grow a pair and call it like it is, India have no chance at the WACA and they better pack some extra helmets! All these PC quotes, no sledging allowed, what a load of rubbish, let's get some neddle back into cricket and stop thinking how your comments might impact on your commercial value in India.

  • hhillbumper on January 9, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    There is a lot of moaning from some Indian fans re a bouncy pitch.You can do two things.Moan like hell and claim it is unfair or learn to play on them.Just because a lot of Indian tracks are slow and low that means that maybe the curators do not have the skill or that is what BCCI demands.Lots of runs and boundaries.That is fine but then don't whinge if your players are not properly prepared.That is down to BCCI to sort out their own wickets.

  • on January 9, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    Pace, bounce and Indians afraid of playing on this pitch - hese are comments I am seeing in this forum. Dont you realize that India lost both the matches in the series so far, when not playing on pacy pitches? Do you really think Aussies can handle pace, bounce and seam better? Isn't that they were bowled out for 47+ nonthing less than two months ago facing a debutant bowler? It is the application of skills that will be the deciding factor as to who will win the match. On the confedence side, Aussies have some advantage right now. Lets see how Indians will react.

  • gorsi on January 9, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    There aint No pitch the pic above !!! its all grass !!! is that what they gonna play on ??

  • S.Jagernath on January 9, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    India need to set extreme turners for Australia,South Africa,New Zealand,England & West Indies & pitches with grass for Sri Lanka.India must produce pitches that favour themselves as every other team produces "sporting" pitches that favour themselves only.

  • S.Jagernath on January 9, 2012, 16:37 GMT

    Rahul Dravid & Sachin Tendulkar can handle extreme greentops,Tendulkar has done it many times over his career & Dravid batted brilliantly at Trent Bridge recently.Hopefully India will get to know the Australian team before Day 1 & will know whether to play a 4th seamer.The batting needs changes & the inclusion of Ajinkya Rahane at 5 & Rohit Sharma at 6 would be the best way to go,both have decent backfoot techniques & would appreciate the workout.They can't do much worse than Virat Kohli & VVS Laxman anyway!

  • andrewedwards on January 9, 2012, 16:34 GMT

    @andy1984 You failed to mention bowling average wise Zaheer Khan has the second best overseas figures after Malcolm Marshall?

  • Bharath.Narasimhan on January 9, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    I want to see a right arm fast bowler to come n bowl 150 plus delivery,gosh i can never forget that 7 for 1 spell from ambrose at the Perth in 1993....

  • spence1324 on January 9, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    News-flash just in! the indian health and safety executive has called off the waca test after ruling that the pitch is to dangerous for his batsman to play on, commentating to the media he said:Using the latest 'ball tracking' technology we have ascertained that the ball bounces to high above the ankle to allow our indian batsman to delver a fair contest between bat and ball!.ha ha!.

  • YoBro on January 9, 2012, 16:18 GMT

    Guys, relax. Does anyone even read the article? This picture is before its been rolled and before the final preparations for the Test. Obviously the real pitch won't look like the one in the pic but a duller version of it. Either way, it will be green enough to scare our weaker batsman. They will be exposed. @andy1984: You're wrong about Gambhir. Less than a year ago, he averaged 60.5 in 4 innings in SA (he missed second Test due to injury). He's also played the long innings in Napier. So he knows how to bat outside and he is a trier. His problems are mostly in the mind.

  • landl47 on January 9, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    If the pitch is like Sutherland says it will be and going in with 4 quicks would not be a wrong decision, then he's doing cricket no good whatever. A proper pitch should assist the fast bowlers on the first two days, be neutral on day 3 and assist the spinners on days 4 and 5. A pitch which allows the quicks to dominate throughout the match and doesn't require a spinner to be included is just as bad as a pitch which gives no help to the seamers at all. I hope, for his sake, Sutherland has prepared a pitch which will give everyone (batsmen, seamers and spinners) a fair shot. Otherwise he should lose his job.

  • on January 9, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    Are they trying to mislead like Dilshan was misled at Newlands?

  • PPD123 on January 9, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    I agree with Cricbuff. India's best chance of winning a test match is in bowler friendly conditions. It is in those conditions that batsmen from both sides will struggle. India's batting woes is well documented and I do not see a turnaround overnight. Infact I would feel that the curator will do a huge favour if he makes a green and fast pitch. Scores of 175/200 from both sides and a 3 day test will be fun to watch. I am all for it. I only hope Dhoni looks at it positively and keeps enough men in catching position behind the wickets. Should be an interesting match.On a batting beauty, I feel the combination of Ponting/Clarke/Hussey are outscoring Dravid/Sachin/Laxman. Else if you see the openers and wkt keepers from both sides are evenly matched (read not scoring). Green and fast pitch pls.

  • andy1984 on January 9, 2012, 15:32 GMT

    I was suprised that at the begining of the series the media labelled this tour as India's best chance of winning a test series in Australia. To be honest I thought India had their best chance of winning a test series on the last tour where they had a very good team lead by the magnificient Anil Kumble. The results in this series do not suprise me at all and I will be suprised if India do not lose 4-0. If we look at India's batting they have only three batsman Dravid, tendulkar and laxman who have the ability to perform in these conditions. Sehwag is a bit of a hit and miss. Gambhir never plays well outside the subcontinent. Kohli and Dhoni are siting ducks. If we look at the bowling apart from Zaheer India do not have any bowler of International quality. For that matter Zaheer is no anil Kumble who can consistently bowl out sides in all conditions single handedly.

  • the_wallster on January 9, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    @Fiery67 hahaha! absolutely fantastic. i put money on the 4-0 whitewash yesterday so im fairly happy with the way t his series looks like going. looking forward to seeing starc.

  • PiyushD on January 9, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    Is this a cricket pitch or ground for cows to graze ?

  • rahulcricket007 on January 9, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    i would like to see the test matches of ind -aus scheduled on the following grounds , 1st test firoz shah kotla , delhi , 2nd test , green park , kanpur , 3 rd test chepuk , chennai , 4 th test eden gardens , kolkata . all wkts should be square turner like wankhde 2004 .

  • chapathishot on January 9, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    Last test in Perth talk was all the same and the Australian media and players were talking about India being blown away by the fast bowlers and particularly TAIT .What happened is the reverse and TAIT's career was over

  • rahulcricket007 on January 9, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    where is pitch in the picture ? i wil not be surpised if match ends in 3 days with aus winning by 7 wkts or by 132 runs .

  • tinkertinker on January 9, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    Can't believe all the comments about how green the pitch is, he hasn't even started the main preparations yet that was clearly started in the article(you wonder if people even both to read the articles before they comment).

    The pitch obviously won't look like that on friday.

  • Fiery67 on January 9, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    The picture in the acticle of the pitch should be enough to have the indian team management ordering 11 adult diapers for their team to wear whilst batting. Let the fireworks begin.

  • aa61761 on January 9, 2012, 14:03 GMT

    It would be nice to see how Indian batsmen handle the pace and bounce of New pitch. I am not too optimistic about Indian batting, may be the game will be over in three days as I expect Australian batamen will also get in trouble.

  • on January 9, 2012, 13:54 GMT

    where is the pitch, under the grass? lol.

  • SanjivSanjiv on January 9, 2012, 13:54 GMT

    Hope the pitch backfires......and then it will be an interesting equation.

  • Dr.Ashutosh on January 9, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    NOW THAT'LL BE FUN...SO MUCH BORED TO SEE ALL THOSE BATTING DISPLAYS...TIME FOR BOWLERS TO STORM AWAY THE OPPOSITION...MAY THE BEST WIN...

  • truebleue_cricfan on January 9, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    Looks like Hussey has more confidence in the Indian players than they themselves have at the moment.

  • Marcio on January 9, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    I'd like to see India compete, and maybe even pull off a win to liven up the series. But I can't see it happening in Perth. I'm expecting another crushing win to Australia here, given the conditions.

  • allblue on January 9, 2012, 12:50 GMT

    One thing that would fascinate me about Ashes series downunder was that the five grounds each offered a distinct surface to play on. Brisbane (swing/seam), Adelaide (good batting), Melbourne (seam) WACA (pace, bounce), SCG (spin). So a five Test series was a true test in that a side's all-round cricket abilities were challenged around the grounds. Over recent years they have seemed to converge and we've had that curse of the modern age - homogeneity in surfaces. I think it's great that the WACA for one is consciously trying to revive their traditional wicket because the game is all the richer for it. Now if only Sabina Park took up the challenge and brought real pace back into the equation...

  • PrajithR on January 9, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    The pitch seems to be greener than the ground... India should retort by preparing rank turners (which turns square from the first ball) in India... Rules should be then even for both... If ICC sanctions then BCCI should withdraw from ICC ... It is only there only to suck money from India... Why such dichotomy in rules? Cricinfo please publish

  • crikbuff on January 9, 2012, 12:05 GMT

    India's best chance to win a test match is on a bowler-friendly wicket. India is struggling to cross 300 in an innings. On a green top, the Aussie batsmen will struggle as well! It is up to Zaheer and co. to do the job!

  • spinkingKK on January 9, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    Contrary to the common beleif, I beleive India will win if the pitch is going to be bowling pitch. India has got a terrific fast bowler in Zaheer Khan and two excellent support bowlers in Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav. In a bowling pitch, that will be enough to rattle the inconsistent Australian batting line-up. Indian seniors will perform without any fear of failure if the conditions are very bouncy and bowler friendly. Ultimately, 40 or 50 runs they score above par will become decisive. This is all provided, the pitch is what the curator predicting and India doesn't drop VVS.Laxman for this crucial match. So, my bet is on India to make it 1-2.

  • sankar8000 on January 9, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    It is going to Backfire on Aussies...wait and see...

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 9, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    It's funny to read what the curator had to say. He speaks about pitch preparation as if it preparing a food item... absolutely ridiculous ! Having said that, it's good to have quick and bouncy pitches most of the time for test matches. It would provide for good cricket. India are already OUT of this series. I don't care whether they lose 2-0, or 3-0 or 4-0 from here. India have MANY problems within the team and it's time the BCCI handles this situation with fairness and credibility. The seniors have to GO ! India will become a MINNOW overnight and I am OK with that. It's okay to lose with young blood than with fading 'stars'. My prediction for 2012 would be India losing or drawing every test match they play and falling down the rankings rapidly. The future is dark and I feel sorry for the Indian fans.

  • on January 9, 2012, 11:05 GMT

    I cant believe this is real pitch on which 3rd test will be going to play, it seems part of the stadium

  • AbdullahShaikh on January 9, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Wow , that was the last thing we needed. a paradise for fast bowlers and a graveyard for our batsmen. but frankly speaking we should have buried the old heroes long back instead of seeing them get buried in the England series and now in the Australian series. We should stop living in the past. The past heroes have passed their sell by date. Now we need new heroes. our selectors are ignoring our present heroes, who are left languishing in the domestic Ranji/Duleep for toooo long. Time to look at A.Rahane, R.Sharma, at the top. Can also increase the depth in batting by considering I.Pathan in place of Ishant. I thing Ashwin and Pathan at 8 & 9 will definately help indias cause. Ishant has played for too long without giving any serious performance since a couple of years now. just one reputation in the previous Australian tour has kept Ishant in the team for too long. Like Harbhajan he also should be dismissed.

  • satanswish on January 9, 2012, 10:39 GMT

    If Indians bat first in this test, match should get over in 2 or 3 days max.

  • andrew-schulz on January 9, 2012, 10:39 GMT

    A bowler does not make a case for Test selection by picking up 3 wickets in a slogathon. How Starc has got back in the 12 after his efforts against New Zealand is baffling. At least, Monga, you are not now talking as though it is an even contest and the Indian batsmen have only lose a round.

  • annys on January 9, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    India needs to do the following in perth

    1. batting order: gautham,dravid,kohli,sachin,sehwag,rohit,dhoni,aswin,ishanth,zaheer,yadav

    2. bat with a positive attitude

    3.sachin has to more aggressive

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 9, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    These kinds of pitches should be banned from Test cricket. Only placid batting wickets should be prepared so that the Indian batsmen can beef up their stats. Bowler friendly pitches are killing cricket. IPL pitches produce most entertaining cricket, becasue the likes of Raina, Kohli and Dhoni can dominate. /s

  • RandyOZ on January 9, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    Shame Patto and Cummins aren't there to rip through this line up but Ryan Harris is easily capable of doing this. More pain ahead for the individual record seekers.

  • on January 9, 2012, 10:01 GMT

    put on ur gardenin shoes dhoni!!! wht else cn u do!!!

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    India - Do not be afraid face it , fight it , and do not put us down by going down without fight , small advice for dhoni pick u r team upon merit and form go in with five bowlers and look to take 20 wickets , attack is the key word all the way

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:46 GMT

    India should poach this WACA curator: Cameron Sutherland, and have him prepare a couple of pitches in India. This is the cheapest solution to their woes long term.

  • Plz_Dont_Get_Whitewashed on January 9, 2012, 9:36 GMT

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  • smudgeon on January 9, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    I don't really like reading "Starc made a case for himself with figures of 3 for 17 in a rain-curtailed BBL game". Sure, 3/17 is good figures in any format. But it's no real indication of test form! Starc is a talent, I'd just rather there were maybe a few more shield games going on at this time of year so we can see where players really are at form-wise. That aside, it's good to hear the Aussie pitches are starting to get back to their own distinct flavours. The Perth pitches of the 80s had a fearsome reputation - always happy to see something in the pitch for the bowlers, for the majority of this summer there certainly has been that.

  • awisal on January 9, 2012, 9:27 GMT

    Indian batting is pretty solid in terms of experience. It is only the matter of time and Inshallh they will do better this time. It is our subcontinental nature which is the problem, means slow at the start. The problem is not with talent but application and since the comments of elder Chappell has hurt the ego of our stars already, they will silence him with the performance on Field. Our prayers with you Team India.

  • kimian on January 9, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    I know that it will be a grassy ......but this grassy,Come on CA....beleive your team will win on a normal wicket than a extraordinarily grassy wicket

  • Predic on January 9, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    If india bats first then this test match will finish in max of 2 days... If Australia bats first then this match will finish in max of 2-3 days...because the reason is simple...this pitch is not suitable to indians at all.... Again expect australia will lose but at the end...Indians will lose.... New year to australia but not still to India.... All The Best...

  • jonesy2 on January 9, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    starc is going to be the bowler to watch, reckon he will flourish on this track

  • SanjivAwesome on January 9, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    There will be no miracle. We are stuffed. Sorry guys. Wholesale changes must take place when our team returns home. In the mean time, let us simply admire the Aus Test match abilities.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    The only Relief for India is James Pattison is out .But still their Task are cut out it requred them to play out of their Skin to level the series.This Seires against Australia are probably was the best Chance for India as they probably faced the most weakest Aus team in the century in their own den and India are full strenth side.But now India wil be happy if the avoid second successive overseas white wash

  • HashmiMA on January 9, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    India need not to worry about WACA pitch anymore as there is no chance of winning the series anymore...also Pat in not in for this match.

    They have won a match last time they were here, so they can take some heart out of it. In bowling they should be more hostile rather then bowl friendly medium pacers to Aussies. Ponting needs to be tested with bouncers more, rather then the gentle stuff from Ashwin. Also ZK needs to keep the pressure on paddle when the chips are down for Aussies and never let it go loose like he did in SCG last week after taking 3 initial wickets.

    Replacing VVS would be a better option as Rohit can bring in the required serenity into the middle order of Indian team, also in my opinion India should give rest to Gautam and bring in some other opener having some decent technique against short pitched stuff. Rest is ok, and we all wish that Tendulkar gets his 100 this time and then get himself out of the shackels for the remaining test and one day series to come.

  • satish619chandar on January 9, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    I wouldn't like to predict anything.. As usual, just hope a better performance from India.. with the kind of people playing in the 11, they are surely a better team than the way they are performing.. Wish they do some justice to their billing..

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    wow there goes another match for India especially if they bat first once more I don't think they have good fast bowlers except Zaheer Khan so winning this will be tough for them unless they make changes in this match.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    series 4-0 in favor of australia clearly on the cards unless india makes miracles on the fieild..overseas woes continue for india....6 losses in a row...

  • Suresh_Joseph on January 9, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    Dear Hussey,

    Glad that your CSK roots are intact ;) BTW, how would you define 'quickly'?

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  • Suresh_Joseph on January 9, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    Dear Hussey,

    Glad that your CSK roots are intact ;) BTW, how would you define 'quickly'?

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    series 4-0 in favor of australia clearly on the cards unless india makes miracles on the fieild..overseas woes continue for india....6 losses in a row...

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    wow there goes another match for India especially if they bat first once more I don't think they have good fast bowlers except Zaheer Khan so winning this will be tough for them unless they make changes in this match.

  • satish619chandar on January 9, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    I wouldn't like to predict anything.. As usual, just hope a better performance from India.. with the kind of people playing in the 11, they are surely a better team than the way they are performing.. Wish they do some justice to their billing..

  • HashmiMA on January 9, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    India need not to worry about WACA pitch anymore as there is no chance of winning the series anymore...also Pat in not in for this match.

    They have won a match last time they were here, so they can take some heart out of it. In bowling they should be more hostile rather then bowl friendly medium pacers to Aussies. Ponting needs to be tested with bouncers more, rather then the gentle stuff from Ashwin. Also ZK needs to keep the pressure on paddle when the chips are down for Aussies and never let it go loose like he did in SCG last week after taking 3 initial wickets.

    Replacing VVS would be a better option as Rohit can bring in the required serenity into the middle order of Indian team, also in my opinion India should give rest to Gautam and bring in some other opener having some decent technique against short pitched stuff. Rest is ok, and we all wish that Tendulkar gets his 100 this time and then get himself out of the shackels for the remaining test and one day series to come.

  • on January 9, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    The only Relief for India is James Pattison is out .But still their Task are cut out it requred them to play out of their Skin to level the series.This Seires against Australia are probably was the best Chance for India as they probably faced the most weakest Aus team in the century in their own den and India are full strenth side.But now India wil be happy if the avoid second successive overseas white wash

  • SanjivAwesome on January 9, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    There will be no miracle. We are stuffed. Sorry guys. Wholesale changes must take place when our team returns home. In the mean time, let us simply admire the Aus Test match abilities.

  • jonesy2 on January 9, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    starc is going to be the bowler to watch, reckon he will flourish on this track

  • Predic on January 9, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    If india bats first then this test match will finish in max of 2 days... If Australia bats first then this match will finish in max of 2-3 days...because the reason is simple...this pitch is not suitable to indians at all.... Again expect australia will lose but at the end...Indians will lose.... New year to australia but not still to India.... All The Best...

  • kimian on January 9, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    I know that it will be a grassy ......but this grassy,Come on CA....beleive your team will win on a normal wicket than a extraordinarily grassy wicket