Australia v India, 4th Test, Adelaide, 4th day

India 'disappointed' not 'embarrassed' - Ashwin

Sidharth Monga at the Adelaide Oval

January 27, 2012

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R Ashwin is on his first trip to Australia. He has not bowled extraordinarily well but he hasn't disgraced himself either. Over a period of time he has looked the third-most comfortable India's batsman in this series behind Virat Kohli and Sachin Tendulkar. He is also the most abused India player on message boards and below-the-line comments on internet articles.

The simple reason is, Ashwin has been to more press conferences than any other India player through the series. Not counting the pre-series press conferences, in 12 days of Test cricket he has faced up to the media five times, only four fewer occasions than he has taken a wicket. This should not be mistaken as media's self-importance. Throughout the series this space has reported players' quotes as they are, without interpretations or embellishments. What the players say has been reported to the fans, and because Ashwin has been the most visible player on the platform, he has taken the most of the criticism from the fans.

The seniors have mostly stayed away from any interaction. It hasn't helped that a few of the other youngsters don't speak English and the media manager sent by the BCCI doesn't translate the Hindi quotes for the Australian press, which discourages the team from sending them out. Which has left us with Ashwin, who in his last press conference said that neither he nor any member of the side was embarrassed at the team's performance.

Today Ashwin sought to clarify what he said. "It would be nice if you could rephrase," Ashwin said. "'Embarrassed' is not the right word. Nobody has done any one thing faulty. We have not fooled or cheated anyone. 'We are extremely disappointed' is probably the words I can use. It is a sport.

"At the end of the day we have competed hard, it's not that we have chucked it away. We've given it everything we had. Yes we came down short on occasions, there were moments we could have seized, and it would have looked different. We have not seized the initiative, and there hasn't been enough in the bank to do it. Yes, we are extremely disappointed.

"We always felt that we should give something back to the fans, but if you keep thinking something is going to be faulty back home, you can't really do [the required] work here. It's like we are on work, and we have to concentrate on it."

It doesn't help either that Ashwin has been defensive in press conferences. Ask him why India go on the defensive as soon as they have been doing, and he questions your cricketing intelligence. Ask him about his inconsistent lines and lengths, and he says: "As a matter of fact, I bowled pretty well in Melbourne. There have been phases when I've bowled well. I wouldn't say that I didn't have much luck, but we always stumbled upon a roadblock where we get three wickets and don't get the fourth quickly enough to attack as a whole, and have gone into a break and not seized the initiative. There have been situations when it's happened like that.

India get together after Shaun Marsh's dismissal, Australia v India, 4th Test, Adelaide, 1st day, January 24, 2012
R Ashwin: "We have competed hard, it's not that we have chucked it away." © Getty Images

"With due credit, their players, a couple of them actually, have used their feet very well. I have tried to adjust to that. In Australian conditions, with the Kookaburra ball, even if you deceive them in the flight, they can go through with their shots. This is the learning I've taken from the series, stuff I would work on when the guys are stepping out to me. But to be honest, the ball has really come out of my hands well."

Ashwin was asked why it was always he who answered the media most of the time. Media interaction is not mandatory in bilateral series after all. "If that is what required of me," Ashwin said, "if this is also a role I have to play as a cricketer, I definitely have to play it. If it is for the team, I am ready to take it [on]."

Like others, Ashwin made it a point to talk about the playing surfaces. "There might be different scenarios and different conditions when teams travel to different places," he said. "That's what we have seen over the last one year. I think teams are getting increasingly stronger at home and they do realise that they need to give their bowlers enough in the wicket to get something out of it. Definitely under the sweltering heat and [when there is] lack of bounce, we might fancy ourselves. But a team that wants to count itself at the top of the world has to perform all over. So no excuses."

Ashwin said the fans could expect a better show in the limited-overs leg of the tour. "Everything is going to be fresh," he said. "It is going to be a different ball game. The colour of the ball also changes. Hopefully we could change our luck as well.

"In situations like these we need to forget what has happened and get on with it. Like I said, the ball is going to change, the squad is going to change, people coming in with fresh energy will help, so [we have to] just keep being positively. And we have played some good one-day cricket, even though we lost in England. I think there are people that appreciate that once again things - dew, rain, everything - didn't go our way. I hope that doesn't happen here. I am sure it will not happen over a period of one month. Looking forward to playing good one-day cricket, and if we get on top we shouldn't let them [the opposition] back again."

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by Cricket_Geek on (January 30, 2012, 18:37 GMT)

@ big_al_81 - Look at it this way. Indians bowled decently but not consistently. Its wrong to dismiss them saying they bowled poorly. They were made to look poor by excellent batting by Michael Clarke. I do agree many of our fast bowlers are over-rated. Zak needs consistent support especially in overseas test matches. Here we saw ony spells here and there where the bowlers were consistent. Indians are not taught to bowl consistent line & lengths. They are always told to develop slower balls, reverse swing & other variety in their bowling which are useful in Indian conditions. When we go abroad the pitches offer help anyway for quicks & all you need to do is be consistent with your line & length. The Indian quicks tried too many things & got hammered. Ian Chappell in an interview said correctly that the culture needs to change. We need quality consistent quick bowlers & not medium pacers. Its for the board to decide how they are going to nurture them.

Posted by Crickee2020 on (January 29, 2012, 4:24 GMT)

Plz man ! If indian team is disappointed and you are not embarrassed .. well I WILL SAY THAT INDIAN FANS ARE ASHAMED ! You might say, yea, we won the world cup but looks like thats the end of the indian cricket ? guys... guys... there are hundred crickets who cannot make it to indian team but if they had FOUR chances like this, one match would have been better ! for gods sake, dont say you are JUST disappointed, you should be ASHAMED man! indian Fans are, where do we dig our heads !

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 8:12 GMT)

team india should be ashamed....... they won world cup what a shame... :P

Posted by AvidCricFan on (January 28, 2012, 3:13 GMT)

The team India performance is embrassing not disappointing. The combined runs scored by India's top four big guns could not be equal to the scorer in the Aussie team in both innings and 4-0 drubbing that the team received after similar results in England, is embrassing, not disappointing. Sorry, about 3/4 of the team need to be replaced. The players that need to be replaced are: Shewag, Gambhir, Dravid, SRT, VVS, Dhoni, Ishant Sharma, and Zaheer Khan. I would not consider Yadav unless he gets his fielding raised to acceptable level. This makes 9 out of 11 players that need to be replaced. Selection committee better make note of this.

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 3:08 GMT)

Wow MSD u still continue as the captain of Team India after loosing two major series! while Dili of SL drew test matches in England and won 1 in SAF but he is still sacked. Go SL cricket. Way for the future.

Posted by Rooboy on (January 28, 2012, 3:02 GMT)

@Nite Kat - because we are always told that Australia cannot win in the sub continent. Pakistan and SL are in the sub continent, hence why those countries are brought up when considering Australia's record in that region. I wouldn't have thought it that difficult to understand. Of course Aus lose series away, but not like this. India need to take a massive look at themselves ... instead they want to complain about insignificant issues and deny responsibility for their 'performance'. With this attitude, things will get much worse before they get better ...

Posted by nachami on (January 28, 2012, 2:40 GMT)


Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 2:34 GMT)

Well I am totally disappointed with the performance of our Indian team. Excepting the first 2 days of the Melbourne tests all the other days we played like novice. I am also very much disappointed the manner in which Laxman, Dravid succumbed also Tendulkar especially in both the innings of the Adelaide test. I think it's high time for Sachin to perform in the upcoming tri-series or retire gracefully. regards, r neil rashan.

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 2:04 GMT)

In Melbourne India was on top for first couple of days, then suddenly tendulkar got out, not a good lead indian lost. In Sydeny Clarke/Ponting/Hussey made india to bleed. in perth warner was on fire. in Adelaide again Clarke/Ponting. I wonder if we ommit Clarke and Ponting from Aussie side what would be result of this series. Just that Indian captain Dhoni did not attack when it needed.and all those indian fans who are asking for heads of Sachin, Dravid and VVS dont forget that before the start of this series Ponting was facing same music. Just give respect to old fellows and let them find themselves, they will be going to disappear one day but dont push them so hard. I am in Australia I have not seen any aussie so angry and disappointed with Ponting when he was failing miserably in SA and even against NZ. Indians particularly start too soon to demand to hang someone, and please forget england tour just look at this one. its 4-0 dont add to misery of players by making it 8-0

Posted by fosterbat on (January 28, 2012, 2:02 GMT)

If this was not an "embarassment" please don't ever think of embarassing us,we may not survive the ordeal. Nothing against you Mr Ashwin,you did as well as expected.

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 1:50 GMT)

"At the end of the day we have competed hard, it's not that we have chucked it away" very funny joke of an ERA :)

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 1:31 GMT)

If it was me, Id have Laxman off after one home series, Dravid in 2013 (if his form continues to be like this) Sachin whenever he wants. This will give a young batsman time to adjust(till 2013) and when Dravid leaves we'll have only one slot to fill instead of 2 if he leaves now, believe it or not, if the 3 left today and we had 3 new guys in (pujara, rohit and rahane/badrinath) we wouldnt even win at home... seniors need to be phased out not pushed out all at once. Give one guy time to settle in (Kholi needs another 2-3 series to become established... ask yourselves if the 3 didnt go today and Kholi plays bad the first 2 matches of the next series, wont there be a possiblity of him being dropped and rohit being drafted in?, hell they might even play Saha in his place)

These are my 2 cents, I dont mean to offend anyone but asking Dravid to go after one off series is heights of senselessness given what he did in england

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 1:27 GMT)

I cant believe there are people asking for Sachin and Dravids retirement, I mean Dravid has had one bad series... who was the one who stood tall in England? Why not ask for Gambhir or Sehwag or even Dhoni to be dropped? Why Dravid? So are we not allowed to have one off series? And whats up with him being bowled? So is it better if he does "The Sehwag" then? The man had one bad series, cut him a break. Sachin cannot be touched... he played better than Gambhir, Sehwag and Dhoni... maybe if he fails for the next 2-3 series yup else no. Laxman is the only one I can see in trouble, If the selection committee had guts then give Laxman one more Indian series to go out on a high note (like the deal with Ganguly) but I dont think that will happen, maybe Laxman would bow out on his own

Posted by HawK89 on (January 28, 2012, 1:18 GMT)

India gave it everything they had and ended up with heavy defeats, thats an embarrassment when they thought they were #1 in the world. Bowling short & wide too often, playing poor shots with the bat, doesn't matter where they play, even pakistan will hammer them.

Posted by Sidura on (January 28, 2012, 1:07 GMT)

Ok....who wants to play IPL now? India, stop being arrogant and join the rest of the cricket playing nations as humble.

Posted by ronson333 on (January 28, 2012, 1:07 GMT)

South India would lose a game against North India, that says it all.....Srikkanth please resign, and you can go to CSK, and India can go to Ganguly....which is the correct way forward

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 1:02 GMT)

@ chicko1983 - i dont understand why aussie supporters always include SL and Pakistan matches when talking about India v Australia. thats as stupid as saying we are better than Australia, becuase we beat NZ! huh??

also your point about Australia "should have won" one test in India is equally ludicrous. By that logic...india "shoulda" won that test in 04 (chasing 200 on the last day with 10 wickets in hand, and it rained all day), hence would never have lost the series!

Posted by ronson333 on (January 28, 2012, 0:57 GMT)

Ashwin is not captancity material,he lacks the fight required for a captain. He has a good 20-20 record....but he has a south indian mentality...what we require is Kohli for captaincy (and this is coming from a south indian)!

Posted by cricket4ever6 on (January 28, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

Let's not get carried away here folks! There's no doubt India's test plans need some rethinking, sure. To sum up India's recent performance: India's bowling has never been consistent, but in the last 2 overseas test series, too many of its batsmen have been out of form at the same time to bail out the bowlers. In England, it was all Dravid, and in Australia it was all Tendulkar/Kohli. Remember you need 1-2 *partnerships*. To sum up Australia's performance: Its batting was not a whole lot better, and Clarke, Ponting and Hussey's performances mask that. But those 3 were enough to create partnerships. And Australia's bowlers are nowhere as good as this series has made them look, and they will soon get found out. Ditto for England as a whole, in fact they're already being found out versus Pakistan. Eng and Aus (and SA) usually have the edge in bowling in their conditions, all that has happened is a remarkable bit of luck, finding most of Ind's batting lineup out of form.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (January 28, 2012, 0:44 GMT)

Why is Ashwin facing the media? Where's the captain? Where are the Big 3? I guess they are too embarrassed to face the media.

Posted by   on (January 28, 2012, 0:33 GMT)

Ashwin- what do you mean you and the Indian team are not 'embarassed' with such a 'shoddy' performance; in the years of test cricket Ganguly came the closest to winning India a test series in 2003; possibly the 1978 comeback series and losing 3-2 (after being 2-0 down); had you guys at least won one test the tag would have been a bit too far fetched- but getting thrashed 4-0 at international level; that too the fans being extremely optimistic with the squad; either you fellows have purposely not played too well squasing the fans expectations or you have just gone back to the old adage where the Indian fans forget (say after you have a good serie at home); I hope the Indian public do not forgive this team till you get your act together in Australia where you have not won an overseas series; moreover it is considered a benchmark being such a tough place to play cricket irrespective of the 'inherent' weaknesses of the opposition which was to your benefit in this particular series;

Posted by NikhilNair on (January 28, 2012, 0:29 GMT)

I don't blame Ashwin... he at least showed the the courage to come out and speak rather than hiding behind another youngster's back. There is too much pressure on him as well after this series and I hope Ashiwn/Ohja/R Sharma will remain in the pool as they will be the future spin triplet. As for the others... we have said and heard enough.

Posted by Dubious on (January 28, 2012, 0:15 GMT)

Wait a minute. some of the younger players don't speak English? It's India's official language, surely they're having a lend.

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (January 27, 2012, 23:47 GMT)

@AussieHere: LOL Well said. May be Ashwin switched the two words.

Posted by big_al_81 on (January 27, 2012, 23:40 GMT)

@ Cricket Geek. I don't know which series you've been watching. I thought maybe it was England v Pakistan as the bowling really has been good on both sides throughout the series. Since you mention Michael Clarke however it must be the same one the rest of us have watched. The bowling on the Indian side has been poor. The bowling on the Australian side has been very good and made to look world-beating. While Indians lay into the batsmen, many of us from outside India have repeatedly tried to point out that the bowling is a bigger problem. You have to pick a side that can take 20 wickets and not do so while conceding a gazillion runs. It's just not happening. and having seen most of the options rolled out in England and now Australia - it doesn't look like it will in the near future. Especially while everyone blames the batsmen.

Posted by RaMin90 on (January 27, 2012, 23:34 GMT)

Sorry Ashwin but India should be ashamed of themselves because that's another humiliating whitewash within a year. 4-0 loss to England and now a potential 4-0 drubbing against Australia. What makes this even more embarrassing for the Indians is that all of those matches was one sided, India wasn't anywhere close to both England and Australia. Ashwin knows that but won't admit it. This Indian team don't even invite Bangladesh and Zimbabwe for a full series but yet can play anywhere/whoever they want regardless what the situation of the Indian team is. Why these double standards India? I think India has too much control over cricket and needs to invite the minnows to their country so that everyone gets a chance. India are playing some 90 tests within 8 years and they already lost 8 of them. They could potentially lose a majority of these Test matches and should be removed of their Test status for being embarrassment to the game.

Posted by Lankaraj on (January 27, 2012, 23:06 GMT)

Dear My Indian Friends - Not all is lost , India has blessed with heaps of talented young players like Kohli . Let's move on and hope that BCCI will make correct decisions based on lessons learnt from both England and Aussie tours We shouldn't forget what those 3 senior players did for us over the last few decades. We MUST not dwell on it, but remember and thank them for their effort. As Gary Sobers said " Form is temporarily, but class is permanent"

Posted by mamboman on (January 27, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

Why is this non-entity being trotted out to justify India's failure and hubris? It is an insult tot he Australian media and the Australian cricketing public. Give us your little tin god Tendulkar and have HIM justify the team's failure, seeing he has so richly contributed to it. Be a MAN, India, don't hide behind cricketing boys.

Posted by Chirs-Cry on (January 27, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

"Embarrassed but not disappointed" - Flop Dulkar while correcting Ashwin

Posted by Rahulbose on (January 27, 2012, 22:18 GMT)

I hope after the final day the big 3 announce retirement. At least then fans can move on, and maybe remember the high points of their careers. Otherwise, I suspect things will get ugly and it would be a shame if Indian fans start trash talking them. Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman deserve a better farewell, but alas life can be cruel.

Posted by Kush1515 on (January 27, 2012, 22:04 GMT)

Rajiv Shukla is a big gun to go. How did he is in top position without knowing ABC of cricket? There is lots of Butter chicken in our BCCI which needs to be replacedI switched off and disconnected my sky TV and will no longer see any more Indian cricket team matches. They have some responsibility for their fans and needs to take some accountability. Please be happy and make everybody happy. Please resign after 8 match loss in abroad. I don't see any hunger in current indian team. They thought that they achieved everything and can do the honeymoon for rest of the life. I believe their Honeymoon is over now. I would blame some seniors and younger players, selectors and coaches who are not giving enough chances to new players like Rahane, Rohit, and Manoj who have got not a single chances to play abroad. What is the use to take them in abroad? Just wait for some injury and then replace it, such a ridiculous. We all know that time has come to say good bye to Sachin, irresponsible Sehwag

Posted by Cricket_Geek on (January 27, 2012, 21:47 GMT)

The bowling on both sides were good not being great. Just that middle order Australia was too good while the Indian middle order just collapsed everytime. The only thing Indian bowling lacked was consistency which was made more glaring by the attacking batting by the Australians. Indians failed to grab the intiative when they had to. If the first test had gone the other way who knows what might have happened in this series. The Series was lost in Melbourne & after first innings in Sydney. Rest was a mere formality. The most valuable player for Australia has been Michael Clarke. His attacking batting helped Ponting to play at his own pace without undue risks & he managed to play himself back to form. A more consistent team would still have run the Australians close who are still very very beatable as shown by a team like New Zealand

Posted by chicko1983 on (January 27, 2012, 21:45 GMT)

I hate to break it to you Indians but since 2001, Australia has actually won more than not in Asia and has a win / loss ratio of 1.9. (check out the stats if you don't believe it). We just came from Sri Lanka where we won 1-0. Our last tour of India we lost 0-2 but should have won one and it was the the worst team we have sent there in the last 25years. It's not going to be easy for you. Can't wait to see eng and aus win back to back series in India, you guys will have run out of all your excuses!

Posted by Lankaraj on (January 27, 2012, 21:29 GMT)

Ashwin is a leadership material. India should nurture his talents and prepare him as the next captain. I see a lot of similarities between Ash and famous Ravi Shas.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 21:22 GMT)

Yes, we as Indians are embarrassed with the loss in Australia... On the other hand, the article says Ashwin was the 3rd most comfortable batsmen after Sachin and Kohli. I would have been happy if he did justice to his bowling credentials more than batting abilities....I am still not convinced about Ashwin as a bowler.

Posted by sixandout on (January 27, 2012, 21:11 GMT)

Vinod Sankaranarayanan - I think you mean 1 in 50 million, but I get your point. However, the embarrassed tag should stand. The rest of us, as you termed it, did not arrive in Australia as the NO.2 team in Test cricket. They may not have won, but they surely could have been better.

Posted by Hendersun on (January 27, 2012, 20:55 GMT)

I am looking for Saha and Ashwin to each geta ton here that inspire batsmen after theim to bat all day and draw this match. The whitewash has to be aborted.

Posted by hhillbumper on (January 27, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

To be fair I would be ashamed to get beaten by this Aussie team.No top 3,worlds worst wicket keeper and a bowling attack that is barely county standard.Yep be ashamed.Don't worry IPL will be here soon so you will be heroes once more.

Posted by shooter_7 on (January 27, 2012, 20:50 GMT)

I completely agree with Ashwin.. Someone will win & someone will lose.. I am a very proud Indian & a few losses would not change it in anyway whatsoever.. I am disappointed & very upset, but in no way embarrassed because in the end, it is just a sport..

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 20:36 GMT)

I was disappointed after the English tour. After Australian tour I am embarrassed as an Indian fan.

Posted by Arrow011 on (January 27, 2012, 20:24 GMT)


Posted by RaoBobby on (January 27, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

I think this indian batting is capable of score on any ground in the world the only thing is that they are not being able to get out of the shell of foriegn pitches/ground etc... some time a little thing sparks and team comes into the rythm a good/boundry/catch anything which lift the moral of the team. i remember the catch of Shahid Afridi in t20 worlcup in eng against newzeland had lifted the fragile team up and we ended up trophy in our hand.. the most horrible thing i noticed in india team is that their energy goes down very fast few boundaries from clark/ponting they goes down no team effort to keep the morale of team up and beleive in themself that we can won in eng/aus.

Pray/wish from pakistani for indian team that they would do better outside india as well

Posted by Nampally on (January 27, 2012, 19:49 GMT)

Embarassment is when the opposition get 600 on a flat batting pitch & India cannot even get 300!Also when the opposition with inexperienced bowlers beat you 4-0, that is a Royal thrashing!. India has done nothing right either in bowling, batting or fielding. One guy stood out - Kohli. He was not afraid of either the crowd & the fielding side sledging at him. He conquered the bowling, sledging & abusive crowd to score his century.Alas - if only India had Rohit Sharma playing instead of VVS Laxman, there would have been 2 guys with guts. Good batting by these 2 may have inspired others to rise - who knows? Aussies had Clarke & Ponting consistently scoring. It was surely embarassing when the Fab 3 had no answer in batting because both these guys are way behind Sachin & Rahul in total runs scored in Test Cricket. Never mind the Team, the Fans were more embarassed than the players. We took lot of taunts & insults from other cricinfo inputers - due to total eclipse of batting & bowling!

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (January 27, 2012, 19:48 GMT)

In this age of media hyperbole, teams as rarely as good or as bad as is reported but India has spectacularly proven the exception to this rule who are probably worse than reported. With India not due to play its next away series for about 2 years now is the time for the next generation to earn their stripes at home. Hopefully the senior players will realise the time for the future players of Indian cricket has finally arrived. If we are to lose then it must surely be better to lose with young players and let them gain the experience needed.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (January 27, 2012, 19:37 GMT)

If losing 3 tests in a 4 match series by an innings is not embarassing then what does it take? Or maybe Ashwin is right, that embarassment is not the right word. How about humiliation, shameful, overpaid overrated and underperforming? Clueless is another. I accept there are times when things don't go your way, in maybe one possibly two tests in a series but 8 consecutive overseas tests. This is not coincidence but a pattern of the scale of Bangleshi and Zimbabwean proportions. Even NZ beat this Aus side in Aus. India let Aus score 600+ runs for 1 wicket in the 2nd test, were bowled out for under 200 twice in the 3rd, then gave almost 400 run stand in the 4th. Aus are without Starc, Pattison, Watson and so on. Every Aus bowler who has come in has done their job. And who have got on the bench? Vinay Kumar and Mithun. That says it all.

Posted by geemanjee on (January 27, 2012, 19:33 GMT)

@Vinod S ... you should be embarassed with your math, or maybe ashamed, definitely more than disappointed :)

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 19:17 GMT)

What is the use of top guns like SRT,Luxman,Dravid and Sehwag in the etam, if you guys have to lose like this. I can bet that a younger team would have performed better than this team. I think, they have just created a world record by losing 8 straight games(It will happen, eventually by mid day on Jan 28). I agree with some of the people, that these big guns only concentrate on their personal performance or IPL. and we all know why IPL. I think, ONLY Indian players are teh one, out of 11-12 international teams, who took IPL on their nerves. Now, coming to BCCI, that board has now only become a money monger board, who does not think about anything else but Money. No one cares, how national team is doing? I would also blame (some of it) our public on the debacle of Indian cricket team.If they stop watching IPL or dont give much importance to it, then IPL's hype would definately be lesser.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

Vinod, we all understand what you are saying. I would like to respect Dravid & Laxman as individuals who gave Indian cricket of their best. However - First by offering themselves for selection when they were visibly way past their best AND then, trying to misuse their South Indian connections in BCCI to keep them part of the playing 11 at the expense of Rohit Sharma, they have both managed to lose all the respect they had gained over the last 15+ years. They have become beggars who wanted to collect whatever little money they could in return for past services provided to the Indian Cricket Fan. I leave Dravid & Laxman themselves to decide what they would think if somebody else did to them what they have done to Indian Cricket. They have created a situation where all Indians as 1 will only say Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish the day they announce their retirement (if they have the shame left to do it), instead of I am sorry to see this man go that some others got.

Posted by Cricket_Geek on (January 27, 2012, 18:53 GMT)

We have seen an Indian team over the last 1 year performing woefully below par. Yes this is a team full of batting greats but most of them are past their peak. The only thing is none of the legends realise its time to go. They performed wonderfully well over the best part of 2 decades but all good things come to an end. As Gambir had said in an earlier interview a player should realise when to call it a day and I think its about time. I am not going to find fault as to who batted badly. Its just that this Indian team needs fresh blood. India will get battered intially when the seniors retire but that fine but will eventually be fine. They did get battered even when the seniors were there as well.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 18:49 GMT)

oh yes Ashwin , you may not be embarrassed but we definitely are . no complaints from you as it is your first tour and i am sure you will do better in future and please stop bowling on middle/leg line , try to bowl on off stump line consistently .

Posted by VIVz_forearm on (January 27, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

amazing...4-0 in england and then 4-0 on aus and still not embarrased...just amazing!! only india can say that...

Posted by ravi_shankar88 on (January 27, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

@ifellow indian cricket fans.had a good laugh about comments on ashwin.didn't you people realize players like him and kohli were made scapegoats for mistakes done by seniors.atleast he has the guts to face the media all the time unlike some senior players who were hiding in the dressing room. for me he's the only bowler who bowled well after umesh yadhav,and also batted well.after all this his first tour to down under. if you want to blame someone like zaheer,ishant...etc.they are the senior most bowlers among others and also got past experiences of playing in australia.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 18:38 GMT)

Well, the Indian team should be embarrassed. They have proven to be absolutely spineless. I didn't expect them to deliver a 4-0 whitewash, but I was expecting them to show some gumption and at least eke out a draw in Adelaide....especially after being utterly humiliated in the first three tests. What is even more embarrassing is the way they conducted themselves - flipping people off, whining about how the pitches suited the Aussies, sledging....methinks the new generation need to be taught proper etiquette and responsibility before being taught how to play cricket.

Posted by adityakoundinya on (January 27, 2012, 18:32 GMT)

So how many loses does it actually take for you to get embarrassed.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 18:31 GMT)

why is my comment missng whr it gone?/

Posted by maheecricket on (January 27, 2012, 18:30 GMT)

I dont know what makes Indian team to be embarassed..More than anything worst captaincyis the reasons for this debacle..Horrible field settings both by Dhoni and Sehwag and they never been smart captains..Batting keeps failing, but not even a change in batting order through entire series..India needs captain like Ganguly and atleast even if he is not performing, he knows how to choose the correct team and correct combination for a match. I believe Kohli should be made as captain as India needs agressive captain with right temparament and attitude..Ofcourse Sachin should retire before he gets 100th hundred to prove to the world that he is not behind records.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 18:15 GMT)

Has Shrikkanth tendered his resignation yet? Please don't give him a chance to do so and summarily discharge (i.e. SACK) him.

Posted by Kaze on (January 27, 2012, 18:13 GMT)

I hope the Indians are finally waking up to what Greg Chappell was trying to do, get rid of the rubbish from the team. I hope this test whitewash is forgotten so we can see the same side getting whitewashed again hopefully by a side like Zimbabwe or Bangladesh :)

Posted by Kaze on (January 27, 2012, 18:10 GMT)

What a liar if they are not embarrassed then they have no shame and that would be pathetic.

Posted by ms.arjun on (January 27, 2012, 18:03 GMT)

Sad to see so many people just waiting to bury people alive when they are down..

Posted by venutt on (January 27, 2012, 17:58 GMT)

So you want Ashwin to come out express your views to the media like dropping Dravid, VVS, SRT & Dhoni? He had the guts to face the media when others were hiding behing their failures. Yes, he could have bowled better (ofcourse with better support from the other end).

Posted by knan on (January 27, 2012, 17:53 GMT)

Ashwin , at least has the guts to come to the media conferences and take it on the chin. The same cannot be said of the Big 3. This match has also proved that Saha is by-far a better choice than Dhoni for the wk's role in test matches. With the next foreign tour quite a few months away, it is the right time to blood youngsters in the test team. Let the youngsters get used to the test match atmosphere playing in helpful home conditions before playing abroad. @ShashReddy - This test would've also finished in 3 days if Mike Clarke had decided to field first after winning the toss.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

l aim from chennai yet i feel that Ashwin does not deserve to play cricket for the country at all.His bowling has become very predictable and he is very lazy in the field.Why the selectors did not give a chance to Rahul sharma who could have bowled well in aus conditions?..Also not giving rahane and rohit a chance to prove themsot sure if he is laughing at us for watching the terrible match.Also gambhur keeps digging outside his offstump as if some snake is coming near him...The wall has become old and somany holes not just cracks are in it.Laxman needs a walking stick it appears and SRT looks lost in chasing his eluding century..Time to make some overhauling but it is india and who knows even the oldies will make it to the next Aus tour...

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 17:43 GMT)

The series was already over after the first test, rest was just a formality. All those who thought that India had a slight chance of leveling the series, well records speak. To me it had always been a team good in their own back yard...... OZs beware of the dead pitches for Ashwin the great and Bhajji

Posted by TRAM on (January 27, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

Guys, dont punish the messenger ! Whatever Ashwin says is what his team seniors want him to say. Seniors cant face the media because they dont have even the courage Ashwin has. I dont believe the "good English" theory. All seniors have reasonable English to talk to media. If India had won the matches there would be fight among seniors on who would talk in the media :-)

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

What is he saying? That he(they) were not good enough from the start?

Posted by mick82 on (January 27, 2012, 17:31 GMT)

I like him and im sure he will do well here in the future as will Virat even though he seems like a bit of a whinger

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (January 27, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

Bring back Greg Chappell. He knows how to deal with non-performers. He will find a way to get rid of Dravid, SRT, Laxman, Viru, Gauti and Ishant. He was always for bringing in fresh blood

Posted by Ravishankara on (January 27, 2012, 17:16 GMT)

Ashwin may not be embarrassed. The fans definitely are. By the way, embarrassed is a very mild word.

Posted by NScriclove on (January 27, 2012, 17:14 GMT)

I totally understand what ashwin trying to say..he is not embarrassed bcoz in this match india really performed gud( according to him)...I think in 8 lost matches, this is the only match India streched their loss on the 5th day bcoz most of the matches they lost in 3 days or even 2 days...I think he and all other players of indian cricket team are very satisfied with their performance.keep it

Posted by hvijay.1985 on (January 27, 2012, 17:07 GMT)

I think Ashwin needs some clarification as regards the difference between being embarrassed, being ashamed and being disappointed. Embarrassment is a perfectly appropriate word to use in this context. You don't need to cheat or be guilty of something to be embarrassed -- that is being ashamed.

Posted by Naren420 on (January 27, 2012, 17:06 GMT)

@amit, totally agree with you and pretty much with most of the comments here. Indians living anywhere in the world, take pride in being Indians and are embarrased when something like this happens. Not only once but twice and it is a pity that this India teams doesn't even feel embarrased. It looks like they are just going through the motions to get their personal records elevated. Prior to the England series, in Indian cricket history, we were on the receiving end of only three whitewash series. The last back in 1967. And in 2011 & 2012, we have two. Obviously, it is disappointing, humiliating, embarrasing or whatever you want to call it, Mr. Ashwin. Indian teams needs a complete makeover. I request the AUS & SL teams for the good to cricket to let Sachin hit a 100 in the ODI's, so he can go back home and retire. It is also time for Dravid, Laxman and Dhoni (since he is not interested in Test cricket anymore) to retire from tests. Give the youngsters a chance, they deserve.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 17:05 GMT)

After reading all the comments - I beging to realize the dangers of being a celebrated sportsperson. None of us who are commenting here are remotely close to playing for India. Person to person - how many of us are close to Ashwin's successes? Earning the India cap is an honor in itself. Even if you cannot retain it.

Iam sure some heads will roll. Not Ashwin's perhaps. But, even if Ashwin were to not play a single game again, he would have been more successful than almost all of us. Not to speak of the veterans and what they have achieved over the years. So - yeah this bunch could not meet the expectations of 1.2 billion people. Fair enough. But they were the chosen 11 from 1.2 billion too! 1 in 10 million. (Ok , 1 in 5 million - assuming girls are not allowed in a men's game). What is embarrassing about being 1 in 5 million? Sure, they will not keep their spots. But they were there once. Cannot be said for the rest of us.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 17:04 GMT)

Drop the all the player who played in both the Eng and Aus series and have shamed the fan and nation (I think that would be most of the team barring Saha, Umesh, Kohli and Ashwin). Let them duke it out in domestic cricket for a year and earn a place back. I would bet 80% of the dropped players would immediatly retire instead of go through the grind again. The BCCI needs to send a message that there are consequences for non-performance. The BCCI rewarded most of these players with millions of rupees when they won the World cup (and justly), now time to penalize.

Posted by svenkat02 on (January 27, 2012, 16:55 GMT)

Very well said Ashwin! I loved the usage of the word 'WORK' to describe the job that you do playing for India.I never get embarassed when I fail at work if I have done my duty properly enough. Sometimes doing it properly enough isnt going to work best, but why should one feel embarassed about it? Too much of importance and emotion is attached to Indian cricket and thats why people talk of embarassment and all. Its good that we have some sensible shoulders like you in the team for our future. You guys will start performing soon and true fans of Indian cricket (the sensible ones) will always be behind you.

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (January 27, 2012, 16:49 GMT)

If this is everything you have, you guys don't deserve to be in the international team or play internation cricket. Even when we play in our backyards we give 200% effort. We should appologize to the English and the Aussie fans who came in expecting a great competetion with the so called World Champs. Pathetic display in the field and now in the press box. At least be Humble and accept we have been routed by a determined, disciplined, and hard working team in Australia. Look at their preparation and look at ours and yet Mr Ashwin claims "We gave everything we can"...No Sir you have not . This is by far the worst effort from an Indian team, and more than anything it's the over confidence and the cocky attitude that has gotten us here. Shame on us.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

India has a worst history of playing bad cricket outside india ...yes they are tough opponent in india but to become a World champion they have to win outside india also convincingly which help them to endorse their championship.with the likes of Sachin Sehwag Laxman and Dravid hey not to forget Dhoni it was last chance for India to stamp their crown over "Test" world

Posted by India1231 on (January 27, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

You are in early stages and a Kid. So talk carefully

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 16:45 GMT)

My question to Ashwin is can India beat Australia in India 4-0 or England. I don't think so. India has never beaten Australia or England in such a manner in which present Australian side is doing. When out of form players like Ponting and Clarke can score double hundreds in two tests matches where batsmen can score. What is wrong with Gambhir, Dhoni, Sehwag, Laxman and Dravid. Even Kohli played well in this series. Sachin defense approach to get that 100th ton has brought his downfall. It is better India stop playing test cricket because can see ever test is lost. Forget about winnings series at least Indian batters could have batted like they do in ODI match. In that way at least we get runs, why so defensive batting. When Sachin was Captain in 2000, India lost 3-0 and then resignation came from Sachin, will Dhoni have guts to resign and take the blame. He was failure in the whole series.. Test cricket need a new captain and Ashwin can be given that duty. he is prospective player.

Posted by csowmi7 on (January 27, 2012, 16:44 GMT)

even though the Indians are doing woefully bad down under cricketers of Indian origin are blooming all over the world. Rampaul, chanderpaul, bishoo, amla, muralitharan, and now panesar. This shows the poor standard of coaching in our country. Our coaching facilities have failed miserably in blooming quality fast bowlers since Kapil Dev. Even the most talented bowlers Ishant sharma, Ajit Agarkar, Munaf Patel, Sreeshanth have been reduced to nothing. Look how the ECB has transformed Stuart Broad into a fearsome bowler and allrounder even after being hit for six sixes by Yuvraj.

Posted by MumbaiIndians10 on (January 27, 2012, 16:39 GMT)

This famed batting line up, legends of cricket, top run getters we have it all then why are we still failing?? I dont remeber in the past 15 years going to england and australia and getting whitewashed in every format in every series! I would say the board of india is totally at fault!! Why wasnt laxman dropped from the last 2 tests, why was dhoni made to play when he cant even get a decent score outside the subcontinet!!

Posted by bigdhonifan on (January 27, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

India is disappointed right. We all know team changing. 11 when Ganguly taken charge and emerging players like Dravid, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Laxman made India #1. We need to look for futire, hope Kohli, Pujara, Ajinkya, Aswin etc make India a solid team in 2 years. All the best. Still Loves this game and our Team. But this only to Test, Stilll India is one of the best in ODI's even without our Prince YUVRAJ. Prayers for Yuvi.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

We are 'embarrassed' Mr.Ashwin, You represent a country so it matters what the ppl of the nation think not what you all think. White wash and still only 'disappointed' NICE! I have heard newspapers saying Dravid might retire but I feel few more heads need to roll. But I salute what Dravid as done for Indian cricket may be he deserves one farewell Indian series.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 16:34 GMT)

Ashwin is correct. There is nothing to feel embarrassed. As a matter of fact, it is the so called fans of the Indian cricket team who should feel ashamed that they have given up on their team. Every team goes through 1 such phase. The mighty West Indies are not so mighty now. The No.1 ranked Australian team slipped to No.5 in the rankings after the retirement of McGrath and Warne. Pakistan, which was once on top is fighting for the 6th spot. Bottom line is, stop over reacting as if the world is about to end. India played miserable cricket, India lost! Stop stating the obvious that "something" needs to be done. Every player in that dressing room is responsible for this, not just 1 individual.

Posted by loyalIndianfan on (January 27, 2012, 16:32 GMT)

Not sure if Mr Ashwin needs to have a sense of pride when he represents his country!Having lost 8 overseas tests on the trot (most probably) he SHOULD be embarrassed! Or maybe he's waiting for the 15th test loss! Have some PRIDE man!

Posted by serious-am-i on (January 27, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

Poor really poor batting display. Please for god's sake send seniors out one by one, its alright even if we lose 4-0 at home. The only reason I see sachin hiding from press is every one is going to be asking him about his 100th 100, was he feeling too much pressure and so on.. I wonder where is the Dravid who struggled in almost all matches and comfortably said he was hitting the balls well, he only got out because of good balls. He must have been kidding to get good ball each time for his dismissal. VVS is going to be asked when r u retiring so he is hiding. Now who are remaining - Kohli, Gambhir, Sehwag, Dhoni, Ishant, Umesh, Ashwin, Zaheer, Mithun, Vinay, Saha, Ojha. Mithun, ojha didn't get a chance to play in the series, I always felt Ojha was a good bowler compared to Ashwin even though he bats poorly. In England Ojha was in squad never played India lost 4-0, in Aus Ojha in squad, didn't play its going to be 4-0. Is this is some kind of superstition or a statistical magic ?

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (January 27, 2012, 16:22 GMT)


Posted by x-squire-x on (January 27, 2012, 15:50 GMT)

a couple of things, first of all the team should be embaressed, as they also should've been after the engand tour, they have failed to even put up a fight, and thats something to be seriously embaressed about. secondly, i can't understand why ashwin came in for so much stick... the likes of ishant, gambir, tendulkar and shewag have been pathetic and deserve nothing but criticism.

Posted by Sports4Youth on (January 27, 2012, 15:40 GMT)

Even thought i dont agree with what he says, but any way he is fresh to this level and also showd his capablities with the bat in trying conditions. Also the conditinss were not suitabe to spin so his personal performance should not be judged by this series. So i guess he deserves to be persisted with. MORE URGENT CHANGES ARE REQUIRED IN THE BATTING DEPARTMENT.

Posted by androyuvi on (January 27, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

I am an indain, and i really feel bad about the way our fans treat these cricketers.. As soon as India won the world cup they became our gods, and as soon as they lose matches we ditch them like anything.. Why are we carried about everything they do.. Even those cricketers are humans and they are really trying hard. One should talk only if he could do it.. Swearing or ditching these players wont help in anyway.. they should realise this "disappointment/embarrassment" and they should change on their own.. As a fan we can only hope and expect.. Others all left to their hands.. I personally feel R Ashwin shouldn't be treated like this. Atleast this man has some guts to face the press..

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 15:25 GMT)

Well, I find it funny how people are abusing Ashwin for his performance, when he actually is the third most successful batsman for India this series, albeit the fact that he was a failure with bowling. This was a tournament, where even the legends failed, why blame an upcoming cricketer? And i honestly feel Dhoni should be ashamed of his imprudence letting Ashwin to have multiple chat sessions with the media. Its captains mistake to have let him talk to the press. Blame the seniors for the loss, not the new comers.

Posted by royramesh on (January 27, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

I cannot understand the bile thrown at Ashwin. He after all volunteered to face the press when his so called seniors, captain, coach and manager hide under their beds. It tells me that Aswin is brave and not afraid to take on a challenge and a losing battle of a press conference. Ashwin doesnt deserve any scorn (his other mates do) - in his first year as a test spinner he has carve out a niche already as a good off/doosra spinner; a capable batsmen who looks at home batting in Tests with the third best technique in this star studded lineup. In this Test he looked also as the best opening bowler as well! Good luck Ravi A.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

its only 2 series!! look at Australia.when they lost ashes, against soth africa and against india. people asked for change but pointing, haddin and hussey.All of them are still there and making runs. so why indians fans cant understand that its a game and there will be moments like that. I guess people remember when india was all out for 54 against Srilanka but they are world champion now.they were no 1 in tests not too long plz let players fight to get their dignity back. they are wise to retire on time.they want to do something for future of India.they did a lot for indian cricket when they were plz people let them adjust.look at ganguly he retired at right moment with memories of win.i want the same for dravid and lax-man n tendulkar can play as long as he wants.he gets this by default.ODIteam:1) Sachin,2) sehwag, 3)virat,4) rohit,5) raina, 6)jadeja,7) dhoni,8) pathan, 9)ashwin, 10)zaheer,11) yadav. leave gambhir he is gud but not great!!:) I AM NOT FROM INDIA!!

Posted by ravi311 on (January 27, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

How ca you say "forget everything that has happened", but the sad truth is if god forbid INDIA wins the one day series some how, everything will surely be forgotten by the public and by the BCCI. Another worrying part is the seniors not facing the media, they also should be held accountable and should explain what went wrong to the indian fans, who are for sure really embarrassed because their team lost it without giving any fight in 8 consecutive tests, not one not two, somebody needs to explain that.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

Boy, you are really thick skinned. If this does not embarrass you, what will? perhaps 2-0 in T20I and 8-0 in the one days?

Posted by thinktank1 on (January 27, 2012, 15:15 GMT)

India must win the coming one day series.. That is the only way India can prove to the world that they are good without senior players.. also Kohli made a century in 4th test. Both these factors can save some pride and let the selectors think about senior players. :)

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 15:14 GMT)

Ashwin played 3 tests in non-helpful conditions mostly. And he did bat well the first 2 tests. Beside Zaheer and Yadav in a couple of innings, there was nothing from the bowling unit. But more importantly it was the batting unit that failed. I am surprised nobody is bringing up the records of sehwag and gambhir. But everyone wants VVS and Dravid to go. Let us select a team based on pure statistics. Then Tendulkar and Dravid have the best batting records in the past 10 tests followed by laxman. ( I didnt include kohli as he didnt play the england series ). If there are two players who should be dropped based purely on statistics, it is Sehwag and Gambhir. And oh - the i forgot - DHONI.

Posted by Chris_P on (January 27, 2012, 15:09 GMT)

I think he has been misquoted.

Posted by Hrit24 on (January 27, 2012, 15:06 GMT)

I think that Ashwin was one of the most competent allrounders in this team in Australia. And I also agree with his words. India competed hard, but unfortunately their standards have dipped so much that they are supposedly the level of an Associate nation (say, Canada and the Netherlands). I think the time has come to let Indian cricket traverse into the future. I am sure they will win again after developing new young talent.

Posted by ShashReddy on (January 27, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

Our players are giving their best. If we compare 3rd test we finished in 3 days ( innings defeat) and now this test at least they extended up to 5th day. credit goes to our cricketers. It is time to bring Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to India then all of our top order batsman ( including ashwin) can score centuries. It is the time to give farewell to our seniors. Saha is playing better than our great captain Dhoni.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 15:01 GMT)

The whole indian team should feel the embarrassment rather then get disappointed. Disappointing performance eighth time in a row it is just shameless to say that. Ashwin missed a few tricks and more to protect himself. These guys are just disappointing millions and millions of hope and yet they are not embarrassed.I hope they play to win in onedayers or else they will just be proud to say tuf conditions and we are still learning.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 14:50 GMT)

Mr.Aswin stop acting smart ...An Off Spinner must turn his ball , pls understand ..This is not limited over cricket wr u can survive only on straighter ones

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 14:50 GMT)

I have nothing to say about Ashwin's interview.. at least he has attempted though not totally successful or failure. There are other 'gentlemen' like Sachin, Rahul, Lakshman, Sehwag, Ishant, Dhoni etc.. who did not even attempt to save the game in the last 2 matches. The attitude of the crieketers itself is objectionable. Their commitment has come in for severe criticism. Of course, the series is over and after this white-wash, the players will use the face-wash and come out as usual. Let us see how they will "wash" in the ODIs and T20s.

Posted by csowmi7 on (January 27, 2012, 14:47 GMT)

I dont understand why everybody is complaining about Ashwin. He's only saying what the management tells him to. And for those people who believe harbhajan would have been better. His bowling in australia is 3/96. yes Ashwin bowled bad in sydney and in Adelaide but no bowler in the team has been exceptionally good even Zaheer khan. he was up against australia's best players of spin clarke and ponting. Give the kid a break. He's 6 tests old has taken 31 wickets at an average around 33 very close to bhajji's, a test century and a fifty at an average of 37. nuff said.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 14:39 GMT)

As dhoni is gonna step out of the test cricket next year, it appears by the things going, the management may consider ashwin as the captain of india!!!!!!!!!!!!! To most people this will be a surprise, but dont forget he has led as the captain for the tamil nadu cricket team as a successful all-rounder for few years. Also make a young and matured player like Ashwin as captain rather than inconsistent and immatured Sehwag. As ashin is a good replacement for harbhajan, he finds seat in the team comfortable. But its time for the management to remove players out of the team(however experienced they are) and give chances to young blood like Rohit sharma, pujara, tiwary and talented all rounders should be part of the side like irfan.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 14:39 GMT)

Poor guy- used as scapegoat by the seniors. But yeah- shows a lot of spirit and accepts responsibility. My wild guess is that he will become the Indian Captain oneday, atleast for tests.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

I dont know which India Mr Ashwin is talking about (probably the 11 in field), but Indians from "INDIA" are definitely embarrassed. Unlike other countries of the world, 90%+ indians only play and follow a single sport named cricket, and when our countrymen fail in such a way at that, it definitely is embarrassing. What is even more embarrassing is the excuses we have been hearing since the first loss in England, and the hollow promises of improvement Atleast after the Perth loss, if not before, it was time for india to do something out of the box, but what we were served was the same old dish and some new excuses (like the one by Mr Gambhir about Grass on Pitch and Rank Turners for Australia was actually laughable, and with Gambhir failing in both innings it actually is embarrassing... oops.. i meant "disappointing")

Posted by GreatOnPaper on (January 27, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

Isn't it funny enough that the guy actually said that... Dear Ashwin actually u guys should be ASHAMED..Rather than just be 'disappointed' but u ppl r not even 'embarrassed' !!! That pretty much explains ur pathetic performance.. It doesn't hurt u guyz to b humiliated 8/8 times,u believe u guyz r doing ur best... Hahaha..Good enough :)

Posted by spinkingKK on (January 27, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

Even in ODI's, I can't understand why these selectors left out Ishant Sharma who could have been very very hard to handle in the australian conditions. Instead, they are going to play Vinay Kumar who is going to be tonked for sixers after sixers by Warner, Watson, Sangakkara, Chandimal etc. These Indian selectors have no imagination and they will just select the players on the basis of what they have done in Indian conditions. Ishant Sharma or Shoib Akthar may not be any useful in the Indian pitches. But, they are very very handy when you have fast bowlers' paradise. These selectors are past test cricketers. But, they still don't seems to know what is required in international arena. India need to appoint Greg Chappel as the chief selector and get rid off all the players who are taking their spots for granted and who are doing politics in the team.

Posted by kabe_ag7 on (January 27, 2012, 14:00 GMT)

Irrespective of the tragic tour, I totally respect and support Ashwin's sentiment when he reasons that 'disappointed' is the right word, not 'embarrassed', which media uses incessantly. It will help many fans get a perspective that it's after all a sport and that you shouldn't stake 'national honour' on it. There are thousand other things which deserve that attention.

Posted by big_cheese on (January 27, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

If this is the best YOU (the ones who think they gave it all they possibly could) could do, perhaps, selection committee should look beyond YOU, Mr.Ravichandran!

"forget what has happened and get on with it"? Really? I mean, really? India was the leading test nation a few months ago and they lost to two very good sides in back-to-back overseas series (whitewash) - and as a fan, I am expected to forget all this? I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK SO. Better start performing and start EARNING (not requesting/pleading for/asking for) some respect.

-a dejected fan (to say the least!)

Posted by praveenchopra on (January 27, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

i am against the move to chose ashvin,should chose ashok dinda or sreesanth as india need an express bowler to silent australia

Posted by AF2199 on (January 27, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

This is exactly the kind of attitude which will bring India down to No. 8 position in test ranking this year. If after humiliating 4-0 defeat (And big ones including Innings defeats) one cannot get embarrassed I wonder what will. Absolutely shameless from Ashwin.

Posted by on (January 27, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

What a joke , before the tour everyone talked about sachin this, sachin that,,, where is he now.... why cant he face the media. You call sachin the greatest,, what a joke, why could he not save india even once atleast get a good score. If india has to rise ,,, PLEASE DROP SACHIN FIRST.

You send a rookie who is coming to AU on this first tour and ask him to take the beating.. this itself shows the character of many seniors in the team. Where is sewag,, just before going to AU he scored 200 ,, what happend now. . Sachin is just playing for his own benifit. He wants to score that 100 in AU so he planned and skipped WIN ODIs deliberatly,,, and now in AU he wants to play ODI ... who is he to choose the games to play ??? I know one thing for sure.. he has the politicians and the BCCI under his control . No one has the guts to speak anything against him. WHAT A PITY

Posted by spinkingKK on (January 27, 2012, 13:52 GMT)

"The team has given everything they had?" Please.. mate! You guys are 3-0 down in the series and Clarke set you a target of 500 to win an Adelaide pitch which was still good for batting. Your team's immediate reaction should be to go for the target if Sehwag gives you a good start. He did. Now, the seniors and all the batsmen should have seen it as an opportunity to redeem themselves of some pride and went for it. Instead, Sachin and Laxman went into their shell to save the match. At the fall of the Laxman's wicket, a NIGHT WATCHMAN been sent out as if they are going to block the whole of 5th day. Even if they have been successful in doing so, what for? The series is 3-0 down. Making it stay at 3-0 in Adelaide pitch is not going to give you guys any pride. It is a PATHETIC approach and that shows how much you value a victory in a test match and how much sportive you guys are in taking the defeat or victory. You are playing to win every test match! Be sportive to take a defeat also.

Posted by Smithie on (January 27, 2012, 13:51 GMT)

Why is SRT hiding from the press? Because he will be asked to publicly give his opinion on DRS. How can the cricket world be held to ransom by one individual? If India is to begin on the road to redemption after this utter national humiliation, working with the the ICC to fully implement DRS effectively is a good place to start. Tell SRT to fully use his bat to avoid LBWs and join the real world.

Posted by Buggsy on (January 27, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

This highlights a very important point - why are Tendlkar, Dravid and Laxman not doing interviews? Too lazy? Too good for the rest of us? This is why I like Kholi and Ashwin so much; they're copping it from every one but at least they have the guts and decency to face the media.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 13:30 GMT)

But we are embarrassed. These guys will never learn. and BCCI which is a private body will never do any thing to correct. Indian public should stay away from cricket / watching cricket in TV / buying products endorsed by these selfish set of guys.

Posted by pattanbd on (January 27, 2012, 13:30 GMT)

Can anyone please ask Mr Ashwin, When Will he and his teammates get embarrassed? If this monumental drubbing does not cause embarrassment, then what will?

I understand the rationale of 1 or 2 series, but the mindset of the team, BCCI officials should change. Their is nothing wrong in getting embarrassed!!! and if you are not, then you are really not playing from your heart...

Posted by LillianThomson on (January 27, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

They should be embarrassed. Ashwin took 9 wickets @ 63 each. Yadav took 14 @39 each. Ishant took 5 @ 90 each. Even Zaheer's 15 came at a poor average of 32 each. Match after match, India would have done better with Irfan Pathan swinging the ball and scoring lower order runs. The batsmen were even worse. Kohli topped the averages.....with an average of 37. Tendulkar averaged 36, Sehwag 25, Dravid 24, Gambhir 23 and Laxman 19. Pathetic one and all. We've reached a point where the once-great Tendulkar would no longer command a place in the Bangladesh Test team, yet no-one dares drop him.

Posted by Bala74 on (January 27, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

I can sympathise with the situation that Ashwin is in. The team plays badly, the captain and the senior players dont wish to speak to the press (the perks of being a 'senior' player, I guess) but a junior player in his 2 test series is asked to speak for the entire team. Sachin, Dravid, Laxman or Zaheer are comfortable with english and they too must be put in front of the press and asked to explain the performance of the team. What is frustrating and annoying is that not only are they not performing but they are also trying to escape from answering to the fans. When things go well, they are falling upon themselves to get airtime and give their opinion on every under the sun. Wish the people of India see who two-faced their cricketers are.

Posted by Yevghenny on (January 27, 2012, 13:26 GMT)

probably should be embarrassed. 8 maulings in a row

Posted by RSBali on (January 27, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

Ashwin if this is all you had to give then you have come short and we do not want you in the Indian team. You may be good for Chennai Super Kings in the 20 over format. Sorry dude.

Posted by vijay_dinanath_chauhan on (January 27, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

8-0 defeat margin overseas,most matches badly lost, can't be luck alone The team that had started winning overseas under Ganguly from the early 2000s has either aged or is out of form at the wrong age( the middle order).

It's sad that the Fab 3 of Indian batting had such a poor outing in their last 2 overseas Test series...but Credit to the Australian middle order and their bowlers who had a plan for most Indian players

Posted by Mann123 on (January 27, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

Ashwin's press conferences are like a record that is played over and over again. Now the test series is about to end and excuses have finished, so now he talks about doing well in One day series. I can't believe they still believe they 'gave their best' and were 'unlucky' and all that. These guys should look at themselves in the mirror and ask, did I do the best I could?

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (January 27, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

A humiliated India were SERVED UP ON A PLATE by the English for Australia to take easily. A mediocre series at best is this, played by two middle-ranking teams.

Posted by peterss on (January 27, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

At least Ashwin doesnt back off! Shows his spirit. But he needs to bowl better in foregin conditions! Ind should have played Ojha instead of Yadav in this game!

Posted by ronson333 on (January 27, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

Bring back Harbhajan! Ashwin has been out of his depth...

Posted by eyballfallenout on (January 27, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

you should be 'embarrassed'

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

Ashwin, the Indian team powers that be, led by Dhoni, Srikanth & N Srinivasan represented by you have abused their authority to protect 2 positions coming up in the Indian batting line-up on the retirement of Dravid & Laxman for your CSK mates, Murli Vijay & S Badrinath. That is why, YOU FROM CSK do not feel embarrassed at the defeats - the India defeats to CSK are a fair price to protect Murli & Badri from the danger of Rohit Sharma / Ajinkya Rahane scoring runs, thereby occupying a position that CSK MANAGEMENT want to reserve for CSK boys - Murli Vijay & S Badrinath. On grounds of performance, at least 1 if not both the oldies would have been sent out of Team India by the 3rd test, exposing one of the positions to Rohit who might have scored....that would make Badri's entry into team India difficult. Therefore, the oldies have been retained for the entire series. CSK is not embarrassed, they will now have 2 more reps playing for Team India when the oldies make way.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

Ashwin had a very good series & is one of the few that stand out. Regarding the ODI series I disagree that India will fare any better. The damage has already been done.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (January 27, 2012, 12:46 GMT)


Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

HAHAHAHAHA this is the biggest and best joke I ever heard. If they are still not embarassed, than they will be definately embarassed after losing a series from a team coming from MARS. Good joke ASHWIN.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (January 27, 2012, 12:43 GMT)


Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

I must say Ashwin is a highly opimistic guy , really ...... :)

Posted by   on (January 27, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

HAHAHAHAHA this is the biggest and best joke I ever heard. If they are still not embarassed, than they will be definately embarassed after losing a series from a team coming from MARS. Good joke ASHWIN. Please post

Posted by AndrewFromOz on (January 27, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

Why must Ashwin face the media while India's so-called "legends of the game" hide in the dressing-room? An example of what is wrong with cricket in India...

Posted by indianpunter on (January 27, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

yeah.. there is the T-20, ODIs.. when will BCCI and India learn?. The rot is systemic and institutionalised. Will it take a shellacking in the other formats too before they wake up. God forbid! if India were to win the tri series, everything will be forgotten and glossed over.. I have never felt so gutted in my 25 yrs of following Indian cricket. And Ashwin, grow up and be accountable.

Posted by JustOUT on (January 27, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

Wow.. its an embarassment. All the Indian fans thought that you will atlest draw the series and you guys have fooled us. Its cheating us with your flat track records.

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