Australia v India, 4th Test, Adelaide, 5th day January 28, 2012

Marsh could be sent back to Shield

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Shaun Marsh may need time away from the spotlight in the Sheffield Shield to rediscover his game after a dire series against India, his captain Michael Clarke has conceded.

In a 4-0 pounding of India, Marsh's 17 runs in six innings has stood out as the most troubling element of Australia's progress, casting significant doubt on the role Clarke had envisioned for him as the strong, silent type to replace Ricky Ponting at No. 3.

While Marsh has been named in the Twenty20 squad to face India in two matches in Melbourne and Sydney from Wednesday, the national selectors are yet to decide whether he should be included in the team for the triangular ODI series. Clarke left open the possibility that some first-class matches for Western Australia would be an option for the panel.

"It is a tough question. To be honest I don't know the answer. I'm sure Shaun would like some more runs," Clarke said. "His form in one-day cricket and the shorter form has been outstanding for a good period of time whether for WA or Australia or Perth Scorchers. I have always loved the way Shaun has played. He is wonderful talent. I do see him as a big part of the Australian team in all three formats but he certainly needs to keep making runs.

"If he gets the opportunity to play for Australia in the shorter form or if he goes back to WA he just has to keep working hard and puts some runs on the board. He needs to spend time in the middle to build his confidence back up. I am confident he will perform again for Australia."

Apart from Marsh, the opening partnership of David Warner and Ed Cowan shone at times during the four Tests, but also showed plenty of room for improvement, notably against spin in Adelaide. Clarke said the team's success made it possible to keep the current group together for the time being, the next Test assignment a three-match series in the West Indies in April.

"When you're winning it helps keep a team together," Clarke said. "Individually Shaun and Eddie and probably David would have liked a few more runs. There's swings and roundabouts. When you're playing well you need to cash in.

"There's going to come a time when you're not making runs. Ricky Ponting is a great example of that. Now we're saying he's batting as good as he's ever batted. When you're not performing you need to hang in there. I'm confident they can turn it around."

Ponting's strong form, alongside that of Michael Hussey, has encouraged the selectors to look at retaining both for some considerable time, perhaps as far as the 2013 Ashes in England. However Clarke indicated that further discussions of their futures lay ahead, alongside his own place at No. 5.

"That is probably something I have to speak to the selectors and the coach and a couple of the senior players about I guess. We need to do whatever is best for the team," Clarke said. "If that means I stay at five for the rest of my career, then I stay at five. If I have to move, then I move.

"And everybody is the same in the team to be honest. My goal is to pick the best XI for every game we play to help us win that game of cricket, whether that be one-day cricket or Test cricket and whatever that XI is, I have no problems in selecting that if we think it's going to help us win the game.

"So it's not about the individual player, it's about getting an XI we think can win and players doping their job and the same with the batting order, if it means I have to move from number five up the order or go down - whatever it takes to help us win.

"I really like the fact we have a good mix of youth and experience, I think that is really important in the team success throughout the last few months."

At the end of his initial run of 11 Tests as captain, Clarke said he had grown comfortable with his dual role as leader and selector, and said the level of communication between the players and the national panel had been particularly helpful in establishing a team comfortable in its own skin.

"I think it has been good to be able to voice my opinion as part of the selection panel," Clarke said. "You are one of five though, so the selectors, if they disagree, I have only got my one vote. But it is pleasing, more than being a selector, the communication and the relationship with the selectors, captain-coach, has been very pleasing for me.

"I have enjoyed the challenges, I have enjoyed the communication with the selectors and being able to voice my opinion."

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on January 30, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    No, Shaun Marsh need not retire. Runs do not matter. He has the support of all his team mates. It wasn't his mistake that he got out so many times cheaply. The bowlers are to blame. He need not play domestic cricket to prove himself. He has the full backing of the selectors and the cricket board and also his father and brother. Only he will decide when he will be dropped from the team.He will stay in the team as long as he wants. Oh sorry, I thought he was one of the Indian players.

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:55 GMT

    s marsh is good player but in long version of game i think osman khaja more suitable in place of him........

  • zenboomerang on January 30, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    The selection process has been flawed for many years & the previous selectors put in S Marsh as their defining glory... Other failures include White, Smith & Hughes (last 2 were too young & inexperienced) while good batsmen like Adam Voges & Chris Rogers were piling on the runs... Rogers has been the leading runscorer (combined) in Oz & County for many years... Rogers an opener & Voges no.3-4... Would have fixed most of our batting failures over the last 4 years...

  • zenboomerang on January 30, 2012, 2:23 GMT

    @popcorn... living in dreamland?... Warner 2 tons in 6 (1 in 3) Tests - Watson 2 tons in 32 (1 in 16) Tests says it all... Hayden averaged 1 every 3.4 Tests while Langer was 1 in 4.5 Tests... Watson isn't an opener with an average that ranks him with Haddin - while Wade & Neville are better than both of them & Paine with the bat...

  • gpm86 on January 30, 2012, 1:54 GMT

    I agree with Lachie. He should be sent to shield cricket before the West Indies Tour. He is a quality batsmen who was rushed by selectors back into the test team. Haddin should do the same

    I think the squad for the West Indies tour should be: Warner Cowan Ponting Clarke Watson Hussey Haddin Harris Siddle Hilfy Lyon with 4 extra squad members being: Marsh, Marsh, Pattinson Wade/Nevill.

  • Meety on January 30, 2012, 0:03 GMT

    @Jarrad Hoskin, wasn't his ton in a Ryobi match? Anyways, I'm a fan of his, but he has been a major dissappointment IMO. He should be in the ODI side, but I wouldn't select him in the test side until he hits 3 tons in the one season!

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    I like this batting lineup: Watson, Warner, Clarke, Ponting, Hussey, Khawaja, Haddin, Siddle, Pattinson, Hilfenhaus, Lyon. I think that Khawaja will do well at no.6. I see him being someone like Kholi. There will be growing pains, but its important to keep him there because hes the type of player who needs one good score then the flood gates will open. Much like Kholi seems to have done. Warner or Cowan to open, i am not sure. I only said Warner because of age, hes under 25 whereas Cowan is 30.

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    The win speaks itself. he had no words when they lost to NZ in hobert last year before indian series. His level of confidence has gone million miles now. gud luk for fture Mr. Clarke!!!

  • on January 29, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    I think they are going back to Khawaja.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    march should never play test cricket again until he learns to get his average over 37, Im sick of hearing how good his technique is when his average is 37, he's never dominated shield cricket and I think he never will, it's just because of his last name that he's got ahead of other guys!!!!!!

  • on January 30, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    No, Shaun Marsh need not retire. Runs do not matter. He has the support of all his team mates. It wasn't his mistake that he got out so many times cheaply. The bowlers are to blame. He need not play domestic cricket to prove himself. He has the full backing of the selectors and the cricket board and also his father and brother. Only he will decide when he will be dropped from the team.He will stay in the team as long as he wants. Oh sorry, I thought he was one of the Indian players.

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:55 GMT

    s marsh is good player but in long version of game i think osman khaja more suitable in place of him........

  • zenboomerang on January 30, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    The selection process has been flawed for many years & the previous selectors put in S Marsh as their defining glory... Other failures include White, Smith & Hughes (last 2 were too young & inexperienced) while good batsmen like Adam Voges & Chris Rogers were piling on the runs... Rogers has been the leading runscorer (combined) in Oz & County for many years... Rogers an opener & Voges no.3-4... Would have fixed most of our batting failures over the last 4 years...

  • zenboomerang on January 30, 2012, 2:23 GMT

    @popcorn... living in dreamland?... Warner 2 tons in 6 (1 in 3) Tests - Watson 2 tons in 32 (1 in 16) Tests says it all... Hayden averaged 1 every 3.4 Tests while Langer was 1 in 4.5 Tests... Watson isn't an opener with an average that ranks him with Haddin - while Wade & Neville are better than both of them & Paine with the bat...

  • gpm86 on January 30, 2012, 1:54 GMT

    I agree with Lachie. He should be sent to shield cricket before the West Indies Tour. He is a quality batsmen who was rushed by selectors back into the test team. Haddin should do the same

    I think the squad for the West Indies tour should be: Warner Cowan Ponting Clarke Watson Hussey Haddin Harris Siddle Hilfy Lyon with 4 extra squad members being: Marsh, Marsh, Pattinson Wade/Nevill.

  • Meety on January 30, 2012, 0:03 GMT

    @Jarrad Hoskin, wasn't his ton in a Ryobi match? Anyways, I'm a fan of his, but he has been a major dissappointment IMO. He should be in the ODI side, but I wouldn't select him in the test side until he hits 3 tons in the one season!

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    I like this batting lineup: Watson, Warner, Clarke, Ponting, Hussey, Khawaja, Haddin, Siddle, Pattinson, Hilfenhaus, Lyon. I think that Khawaja will do well at no.6. I see him being someone like Kholi. There will be growing pains, but its important to keep him there because hes the type of player who needs one good score then the flood gates will open. Much like Kholi seems to have done. Warner or Cowan to open, i am not sure. I only said Warner because of age, hes under 25 whereas Cowan is 30.

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    The win speaks itself. he had no words when they lost to NZ in hobert last year before indian series. His level of confidence has gone million miles now. gud luk for fture Mr. Clarke!!!

  • on January 29, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    I think they are going back to Khawaja.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    march should never play test cricket again until he learns to get his average over 37, Im sick of hearing how good his technique is when his average is 37, he's never dominated shield cricket and I think he never will, it's just because of his last name that he's got ahead of other guys!!!!!!

  • farkin on January 29, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    Marsh's 17 runs in six innings from 4 test says there was some thing more behind the dropping of Khawaja

  • TheLoneStranger on January 29, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    No kidding, Michael? Shaun wants some more runs? What an understatement! He should never have played in the 4th test, and probably not in the 3rd, either. Meanwhile, we have Katich and Khawaja, the former being a proven test match performer, cooling their heels on the sidelines. Get real, selectors! You persevered with Punter long after he should have been dropped, and he came good. Katich was dropped for no valid reason whatsoever. Restore Katich to his rightful place in the test team!!!

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:58 GMT

    maybe time to recall Usman Khawaja, 20s and 30s are better than 0's and 1's...

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:56 GMT

    @Lachie Burgess: He deserves more chances? 17 runs in 6 innings isnt enough for you? Come on, Kawaja was dropped for less, Hughes was dropped for less....Why should Marsh be different?

  • Buggsy on January 29, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    Right, there's no option of 'could', he SHOULD be sent down and get Khawaja back. He looks much more techincally correct than Marsh ever will.

  • on January 29, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    Theres one name everyone had forgot and that is that of callum ferguson sure his shiled season hasnt been the strongest but he just got a 100 in the last game before the bbl and is the 2nd highest run scorer in the ryobi cup he is a genuine no.3 and australia need more right handers ther is to many lefties

  • dsig3 on January 29, 2012, 5:41 GMT

    If he can get a game. Dudes average is not that great.

  • I-have-Steyns-autograph on January 29, 2012, 5:20 GMT

    i don't know how marsh was selected in the first place. his first class record is dismal, and he hasnt even been amongst the runs in the last few seasons. 7 hundreds in 69 matches and an average of 37? it's amazing that he briefly surpassed his abilities.

    i mean, i know his dad played for australia, but honestly!?

  • tfjones1978 on January 29, 2012, 4:59 GMT

    Marsh should be given first class matches (4 left in season I think) for WA and be expected to show his worth to get on the tour of WI. Haddin should also have some time off from international side to focus on his game in WA squad. This will give another player a chance. Selectors could advise that its part of the rotation policy to improve the reserves. Whomever is doing well in first class cricket should go on tour of WI with the squad that did well during the test series vs India. Australia should look to have 8 batsmen, 2 wickys and 7 bowlers (5 pace, 2 spin) as the tour squad, and this squad should be kept together (whilst they are in form) and play 3 (part time) to 12 matches (full time) per player. Australia should look at playing 15 to 20 test matches each year with regular matches against bottom teams for our reserve players (like in soccer). Australia should also play warm up matches (3 days) against top assocate team in each region (Ireland, Kenya, Afganistan, etc).

  • RoJayao on January 29, 2012, 3:23 GMT

    Yes absolutely he should be playing all four of WAs last shield games and if he doesn't make good runs he should not be picked for the West Indies, simple as that. ODI runs do not matter a jot!

  • Chris_P on January 29, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    Marsh should never have been picked after one T20 game. He was on a hiding to nothing. Just shows, guys, that ODI & T20 form means squat for the real cricket. I feel for Khawaja, he played well on seaming tricky wickets showing great temperment, and gets the boot when he could have cashed in on & consolidated his test spot. Little Swampy, you need to score big runs before getting a start again.

  • othello22 on January 29, 2012, 1:49 GMT

    The answer is simple - Drop Marsh and slot Watson in at 3. Everything else has been ok, middle order is firing, Warner and Cowan have the makings of a decent opening combo... Watto would make a great Number 3. Has good defensive technique, is experienced at playing against the moving ball from his time opening, can score quickly and has an expansive enough game to play the kind of counter-attacking knock needed from a number 3 batsman. If he's not fit, give Khawaja another crack, he has shown some promise in his short time in the test side. The biggest selection headache is what to do with the bowling - With Sids, Hilfy and Rhino going gangbusters, how do we now find room for Cummins, Starc and Pattinson?? The mind boggles.

  • on January 29, 2012, 1:00 GMT

    I think Ferguson could be the black horse in the ODI Tri-series. In the Ryobi Cup he has scored 286 runs (twice unbeaten) in 6 matches and is 2nd only to Brad Hodge.

  • Seers on January 29, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    Unbelievable that people rule Hughes out. He is a far better batsmen than Marsh and Cowan, and possibly Warner and Khawaja, yet the youngest of the lot. The guy has 3 test centuries overseas and a first class avge around 50 including 17 centuries (compared to Marsh avge 37 and only 7 centuries in more games). Too much has been made of Hughes getting caught in the slips. There are much worse ways to get consistently out (just ask Dravid). However, ultimately it's about how many runs you make and he makes more than the other options. He just needs to be persisted with like England did when Cook was young, rather than dropped after failing a few times in some of the worst batting conditions of the past year (Cape Town, Hobart). Doubt he would have failed like Marsh did in Sydney and Adelaide, but he wasn't given a chance on the good batting pitches.

  • MinusZero on January 28, 2012, 23:52 GMT

    They need to stop picking test players based on T20 form.

  • burleighboy86 on January 28, 2012, 22:45 GMT

    Khawaja will likely be picked I think, IF Watson doesn't return for the Windies series. He'd make a good long term 3, but maybe start him at 5 or 6 to settle into the side properly. Give him a real good run at it too. But the problem lies when Watson does eventually come back. He'd be the one to drop out, yet again. I personally think Marsh isn't the player that Khawaja can, and likely will, be. Has the right temperament for test cricket, and is nice and young. Has a good 15 years of solid cricket left in him.

  • on January 28, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    Yes, Shaun Marsh was a disaster. He deserves no place in the team. Off-topic, how many of you want to join me in my bet that David Warner is a one-series (may be half-series) wonder and we will never remember him an year from now ?? Ed Cowan has a lot of potential....Warner is a joke in Test Cricket. Surprised, how Ozies called him the next Australian captain after one century....jeeez !!

  • on January 28, 2012, 17:33 GMT

    Request to ICC. Please setup another Aus/Ind Series , so that Indian bowlers can revive Marsh's career.

  • Barnesy4444 on January 28, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    Why not move Ponting back up to 3, Clarke at 4 and let young batsmen find their feet at 5/6 the way it's always been done? Marsh shouldn't be picked for test cricket again until he scores big, consistent centuries. This is something he hasn't done throughout his whole career.

  • Peterincanada on January 28, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    @Meety You are totally right. I think Watson, presuming he is fit, should go to WI as the number 3. The upcoming Shield games should be used as a run off for the extra batting spot. If Marsh does better than the others and scores heavily he should be kept. In the absence of FC fixtures nobody else has really put up his hand.

  • on January 28, 2012, 16:46 GMT

    he did perform well on SL tour...dont ignore him completely if u want to prepare teams for subcontinent wins. Oz selectors should also try and develop atleast 1 more spinner. wouldnt matter if he isnt very impressive...just see how swann and panesar have bowled in 2nd test against Pak. Oz have good pace bowlers no doubt...but they shud imagine a scenario where they play with 2 spinners...maybe include 5 bowlers ?

  • dosapati_anand on January 28, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    Shaun Marsh was a huge hit in IPL. Is there a relation between his continuous failure and his T20 success? Has it actually affected his game? Nobody seem to think on those lines.

  • on January 28, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    Dump Marsh for the Vice Captain. Watson is a far better player, but should bat down the order. How is it that Australia's three senior batsmen (Clarke, Hussey, Ponting) are not filling the most troublesome spots in the top three, instead protecting themselves in positions 3-6. Hussey is an ex opener, he should move to 3 and allow Watson to rest at 6, it will make Australia's solid bowling line-up that much more formidable.

  • Mary_786 on January 28, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    Shaun Marsh is a terrible long-form cricketer. It is that simple. He is a good ODI and an excellent T20 player, but he is abysmal at the longer game. 10 years of first class cricket reflect that. His test record reflects it as well. He will occasionally turn in fine innings (like that 141 at Pallekele) but he will never score consistently and will only ever average in the mid-thirties. Keep Shaun Marsh for the limited overs cricket matches, and pick a player who is actually suited to longer-form cricket for the tests - i.e. Usman Khawaja.

  • crh8971 on January 28, 2012, 13:34 GMT

    Shaun Marsh is the least credentialed player to bat number 3 for Australia in the last 30 years and his failure has demonnstrated the folly of selectors making test team selections based on performance in T20 and ODI cricket. Nine or ten years of first class cricket with an average of 37 and only seven centuries should never have qualified him for selection. Great players of the past who got little or no opportunity such as Siddons, Hodge, D Hussey, Law, Love, Rogers, Elliott and even Lehman and Bevan must just shake their heads. All of them had far superior records than Shaun Marsh. If he had ever had a breakout first class season where he scored 1,000 plus runs then he might be worth a try but he hasn't and probably never will.

  • Wozza-CY on January 28, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    @ hyclass, where are you? Ur entitled to an 'i told you so'. How is it that Warner & Marsh get gigs in the test team on the back of Mostly T20 performances yet D.Husseys scores runs in all three formats & can't get a look in anywhere? Watto to open with Warner & not bowl, Mussey to 3 & Dussey at 6. Now there's a strong batting line up!

  • on January 28, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    Marsh is one of the best batsman in australia at present just need one inning to get back right us there

  • enigma77543 on January 28, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    Agreed, just because Aus won convincingly shouldn't mean that non-performers be retained, something similar happened with Ind, they carried dead-weight for too long just because they were winning so the emphasis must ALWAYS be be there on improving things further rather than being content with wins. Even Warner looks brittle against spin, it remains to be seen how he does in the future against quality spin bowling

  • gogoldengreens on January 28, 2012, 10:44 GMT

    Send Shaun Marsh back to shield cricket and forget about him... Khawaja would be a lot better long term player at 3... Mitchell Marsh would be worth picking ahead of his brother in shorter forms of cricket

  • on January 28, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    Whatever happened to Usman Khawaja who displayed good temperament and sound technique.

  • on January 28, 2012, 9:21 GMT

    I personally don't think they should send him back. He is great and deserves a few more chance. Just gotta do practice practice practice for small break until the next matches!

  • Meety on January 28, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    The heading needs to be changed. The word could needs to be changed to SHOULD! He's failed. Not saying he can't come back better, BUT, IMO his performance was WAY WORSE than Hughes, who also scored a century in SL. Hughes batted on worse pitches against a NZ attack who (against the Zimmers) just took 20 wickets for 198 runs, & showed a lot more skill than India. I am not saying for one moment Hughes should be back in the side, what I AM saying is Marsh needs about a year of big FC scores before he is considered for tests again. I don't mind him in the T20 side as he is an experienced T20 campaigner. I would seriously consider Marsh for a tour of India.

  • Nightwing32 on January 28, 2012, 8:09 GMT

    Well why not both? It is going to be a long ODI series and Australia will have a rotation policy as well. Give players like Faulkner, Wade, Christian and Mitch Marsh a chance as well to taste international cricket and more. Shaun would have a good chance to get back in form.

  • on January 28, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    He has got a lot to offer looking at his age his is only 28 so still 7 yrs of play He needs to be stick to his basic attacking approach and the way he played in recent series against us is very sad because i had seen his all matches in ipl he is nice batsman i think a break of 1 or 2 series and giving Watson a chance will make him play for his place and it will take out his best from his bat best wishes for his future

  • popcorn on January 28, 2012, 6:40 GMT

    Now that the Sheffield Shield 4 day games will begin in full flow, the 5 of them should battle for the Top Three places to get onto the plane to the West Indies .Namely - Warner, Cowan, Khawaja, Watson, Shaun Marsh.

  • farkin on January 28, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    "Marsh could be sent back to Shield" what the ********* you mean could . he should be sent down to shield if they will have him or down to a club side

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    The selectors are not much better than the previous sorry lot. Marsh should not have been rushed back into TESTS because played well in a Big Bash game

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Damn straight Marsh would have liked a few more runs, honestly with how shakey the openers are we need a No. 3 who is comfortable opening the bat, a man like Shane Watson. Back when Ponting was at No. 3 if we lost an opener cheap, he'd make sure there were a few runs on the board, unfortunately he's had to do that from No. 4 this series. Perhaps Clarkey should drop his grudge with Katich and look at including him back in the side, he's performing well domestically.

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    Shaun Marsh should be dropped and hammer it out in the Sheffield Shield. Shane Watson should open with Warner, and bowl less as Australia have a great list of bowlers to choose from, Ricky Ponting can stay at no. 4 or move up to the old no. 3, Clarke should move to no. 4 or no.3 to solve the top order problems, Hussey at no.5 with Dan Christian at no.6. Haddin at no. 7. The bowling will be a dog fight between Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Harris, Pattinson, Starc and Cummins. No more Johnson, unless he can take wickets in the Shield. Although it is Clarke's 1st ever whitewash, could it be Australia bowling so well or India playing so badly. Unfortunately Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Harris & Lyon are not part of the ODI team.

  • popcorn on January 28, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    The Top Three is worrisome.It CANOT be FEAST or FAMINE. Warner scored two centuries - one against New Zealand,one against India.To expect he will play defensive for long, is dreaming. He has moulded himself along Sehwag and T20 lines.But spinners have found him out, his impatience is glaring. A good opening partnership foundation is VITAL to the Team morale and a huge score.We experimented with Phil Hughes. Failed. Dave Warner and Ed Cowan will need an extended run in the West Indies. If they combine well there, stick to them.If not,get Shane Watson back as one of the openers.Or let Usman Khawaja open. He has Solid technique.Oh for a Hayden - Langer,Taylor - Slater,Simpson - Lawry opening pair!And for a Ponting who made the Number 3 position his own.Now that Ponting has scored well a Number 4, we need a good solid bat at Number 3. I would say put Shane Watson at Number 3.How long do you wait till till you tell non-performers like Shaun Marsh to go back to Shield games?

  • Gizza on January 28, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    All the non-performers in the Border-Gavaskar Trophy should be sent back to first-class cricket. In Australia's case, there are two players (Marsh and Haddin). In India's case it is pretty much everyone. Even Kohli who was technically the best could use some mental improvement and learn the art of patience a bit more. And for the bowlers Yadav was the best but needs to learn consistency and hunger.

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    Ironic that we (Aussies) win 4-0 and send players back to Shield Cricket while India losses 4-0 and says there will be no changes. Good luck with that!

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  • on January 28, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    Ironic that we (Aussies) win 4-0 and send players back to Shield Cricket while India losses 4-0 and says there will be no changes. Good luck with that!

  • Gizza on January 28, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    All the non-performers in the Border-Gavaskar Trophy should be sent back to first-class cricket. In Australia's case, there are two players (Marsh and Haddin). In India's case it is pretty much everyone. Even Kohli who was technically the best could use some mental improvement and learn the art of patience a bit more. And for the bowlers Yadav was the best but needs to learn consistency and hunger.

  • popcorn on January 28, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    The Top Three is worrisome.It CANOT be FEAST or FAMINE. Warner scored two centuries - one against New Zealand,one against India.To expect he will play defensive for long, is dreaming. He has moulded himself along Sehwag and T20 lines.But spinners have found him out, his impatience is glaring. A good opening partnership foundation is VITAL to the Team morale and a huge score.We experimented with Phil Hughes. Failed. Dave Warner and Ed Cowan will need an extended run in the West Indies. If they combine well there, stick to them.If not,get Shane Watson back as one of the openers.Or let Usman Khawaja open. He has Solid technique.Oh for a Hayden - Langer,Taylor - Slater,Simpson - Lawry opening pair!And for a Ponting who made the Number 3 position his own.Now that Ponting has scored well a Number 4, we need a good solid bat at Number 3. I would say put Shane Watson at Number 3.How long do you wait till till you tell non-performers like Shaun Marsh to go back to Shield games?

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    Shaun Marsh should be dropped and hammer it out in the Sheffield Shield. Shane Watson should open with Warner, and bowl less as Australia have a great list of bowlers to choose from, Ricky Ponting can stay at no. 4 or move up to the old no. 3, Clarke should move to no. 4 or no.3 to solve the top order problems, Hussey at no.5 with Dan Christian at no.6. Haddin at no. 7. The bowling will be a dog fight between Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Harris, Pattinson, Starc and Cummins. No more Johnson, unless he can take wickets in the Shield. Although it is Clarke's 1st ever whitewash, could it be Australia bowling so well or India playing so badly. Unfortunately Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Harris & Lyon are not part of the ODI team.

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    Damn straight Marsh would have liked a few more runs, honestly with how shakey the openers are we need a No. 3 who is comfortable opening the bat, a man like Shane Watson. Back when Ponting was at No. 3 if we lost an opener cheap, he'd make sure there were a few runs on the board, unfortunately he's had to do that from No. 4 this series. Perhaps Clarkey should drop his grudge with Katich and look at including him back in the side, he's performing well domestically.

  • on January 28, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    The selectors are not much better than the previous sorry lot. Marsh should not have been rushed back into TESTS because played well in a Big Bash game

  • farkin on January 28, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    "Marsh could be sent back to Shield" what the ********* you mean could . he should be sent down to shield if they will have him or down to a club side

  • popcorn on January 28, 2012, 6:40 GMT

    Now that the Sheffield Shield 4 day games will begin in full flow, the 5 of them should battle for the Top Three places to get onto the plane to the West Indies .Namely - Warner, Cowan, Khawaja, Watson, Shaun Marsh.

  • on January 28, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    He has got a lot to offer looking at his age his is only 28 so still 7 yrs of play He needs to be stick to his basic attacking approach and the way he played in recent series against us is very sad because i had seen his all matches in ipl he is nice batsman i think a break of 1 or 2 series and giving Watson a chance will make him play for his place and it will take out his best from his bat best wishes for his future

  • Nightwing32 on January 28, 2012, 8:09 GMT

    Well why not both? It is going to be a long ODI series and Australia will have a rotation policy as well. Give players like Faulkner, Wade, Christian and Mitch Marsh a chance as well to taste international cricket and more. Shaun would have a good chance to get back in form.