India in Australia 2011-12 January 29, 2012

Time for India to shed denial

After their skills were found wanting and their mental fortitude questioned, India can't afford to wallow in home comforts
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Four years ago, during an ugly series between these two teams in this country, Anil Kumble, India's captain, evoked Bill Woodfull circa Bodyline, saying only one of the teams was playing cricket. The same could just as easily be said of this series. In their own cocoon of denial, living in the past, out-batted, out-bowled, out-fielded, out-captained both on and off the field, out-coached, out-jibed by the hosts, India didn't really turn up.

The batsmen kept failing but kept getting picked and kept batting in the same positions on the top of that. The bowlers lacked the control; Ishant Sharma carried his flaws and misfortune, which might or might not be inter-related, despite a strong and specialised coaching staff; the old men without the runs didn't write off the debts they incurred in the field; the openers were found out, but everybody kept talking of a time in the past when they used to win.

They used to win no doubt but never as comprehensively as they have lost over their last two series. It was a team skating on thin ice, albeit skating exceptionally well until earlier this year, but the ice has given away now. The rescue squad is of the view it will prepare better ice at home.

To find out where it all went wrong on this tour it is important to go back to where it all started. Melbourne was the kind of Test India used to win over the last four years or so. They just did. Somehow. They used to have the mental strength. That is the reason the fans began to trust this side. That is the reason why they are angry now. They haven't seen that desperation here.

They can't pinpoint a time when the desperation, the mongrel, left this team. Was it when the seniors passed a certain age - and can cricketers age all of a sudden? Was it when surgeries were postponed so that IPL could be played and Tests missed? Was it when the previous 4-0 whitewash was not even part of the board's recap of the last year at its awards function? Did the World Cup win exhaust them and sate them at the same time? This is all conjecture, and possibly unfair, but the fans are asking themselves these questions.

The good Indian team used to win the big moments - it didn't happen over a long period but it was the same personnel consistently making second-innings comebacks and or chasing high-ish totals in the fourth innings. Not now. Melbourne was a bit like Trent Bridge when they let the batsmen off the hook twice. India's bowling plans were outdated, as if the captain and the coaches hadn't seen Australia play since they last played India. They tried to bounce Ricky Ponting out when clearly he had been falling lbw over the last few months, thus playing him back into form. The good Indian teams' tailenders added runs, here Zaheer Khan refused to stay in front of the stumps. A lot of the blame has to be laid at the door of a team of defensive captain and defensive coach, but the mongrel wasn't there either.

It all can't be put down to the absence of that intangible quality either. The skills were found out. Perhaps it might have to do with age and slowing down of the instinct, but Virender Sehwag against the seaming and bouncing ball wasn't a good sight. Gautam Gambhir spent half the series fighting the poke only for the bouncer at his throat to consume him for the other half.

VVS Laxman remained strangely passive at the crease, and only in Adelaide - a Test he shouldn't have played in the first place - did he move his guard to middle stump to counter the fifth-stump line. Rahul Dravid knew his back foot was not moving across, and he tried his darnedest in the nets to overcome it, but could not manage it. Sachin Tendulkar began the summer gloriously, and still looked the best equipped technically, but that is where it stopped.

Melbourne was the kind of Test India used to win over the last four years or so. They just did. Somehow. They used to have the mental strength. That is the reason the fans began to trust this side. That is the reason why they are angry now

The question marks against the seniors are valid and well documented, and it is time to drop those who will not be a part of the side at the start of the overseas tours in late 2013. There is no disrespect to their previous contributions in dropping them. However, it is disrespectful to plant stories in the media, as has been happening, to try to put covert pressure so they are forced to retire. Retirement should not even be a question here; that is the players' decision, and it is understandable for players to want to keep playing. What are the selectors and team management doing?

Good Indian teams bounced back from first defeats, now "bouncebackability" is a word used to mock them. With this team you badly hoped, for the sake of a contest, that they didn't lose the first match. In the lead-up to Sydney, no one other than the Indian team spoke of their ability to come back after their first defeat. From the time they were bowled out for 191 on that first day in Sydney, it was clear it would be nothing short of a miracle to avoid a whitewash.

Perth and Adelaide were natural progression. Mentally they were gone. They were in such bad state they couldn't even ignore criticism in the papers: R Ashwin called the media a deterrent and Sehwag asked them to support the side like cheerleaders.

MS Dhoni's captaincy may be open to whatever criticism but his leadership style of letting everyone be so they did their job best had worked until this debacle began. Good leaders, however, change their ways with time. There seems nobody in this team capable of lighting a fire under a few backsides, or of making on-the-spot decisions that match the desperation of the situation.

If Dhoni's erstwhile strength might have become his weakness, we don't even know what Duncan Fletcher's role is, except that no player wants to blame him. He was a control freak when with England, but has no powers here. He loved DRS, but can't say that in his new employment. He is supposed to be good with youngsters, but doesn't seem to be pushing for them here. He used substitutes to rile opposition captains, but is part of a team that calls back technically run-out batsmen. Is he a square peg in a round hole?

It is believed it is good to hit the rock bottom once in a while so that the only way is up. The problem is, the team and the board react in a manner that suggests they don't believe they have reached there yet. They still boast of home wins. They are complaining of grass on pitches that have actually been pretty fair, and ignoring completely that most of their recent wins away from the subcontinent have come in more-than-friendly bowling conditions. Hopefully they don't actually feel that way, and it is just a "brave face", although it isn't very clever.

Hopefully, at the next year's awards function, the BCCI will acknowledge that apart from hosting IPL and Champions League and putting together a side that won home Tests - the last one is no guarantee - India also lost badly in Australia. Accepting flaws is the first step towards correcting them.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Digimont on January 31, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    Maybe in India you retire when your batting average is lower than your age. I think therefore they all have a couple of years left in them.

    Maybe Sharma and Ohja were taken along do they could witness the death of an era of Indian cricket, so they could help it to rise again.

    A message to the Indian team management...aim for mediocrity, you don't have to improve as much as you do to achieve excellence. Once you have mastered mediocrity (in a couple of years time maybe), then aim a little higher.

  • on January 31, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    Great Article...BCCI should organize dinner and give them shawl and sreephal and retire them respectfully....

    Best is to drop these old players ( sehwag,vvs,dravid, gambhir) and pick a young team which will take Indian cricket to next level.....

  • SuperSharky on January 31, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Gary Kirsten created positive mental minds. Then India have won a World Cup and have become a little bit Big-Headed. Now the Auzzies has deflated those Big-Heads and Duncan Fletcher has to do all Gary Kirstens work all over again.

  • SuperSharky on January 31, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    A lot of cricketers in the past will tell you that one of the toughest mental challenges will be playing Australia in Australia. And if you give the Auzzies a sniff of your mental weakness like for instance being the only country in the world that can not understand DRS, you're in for a whitewash. Some Indian bowlers in the past have been accused of over-appealing for wickets. Sometimes appealing too much because they are so excited that they believe everything close should be out. And with the DRS it showed. When India use DRS, they use it quickly up because they are too eager for wickets. Ravi Shastri could also not understand why in tennis and cricket you only have 2 reviews. Why can't you review everything always, because some bowlers, who believes everything is out, will waste your time. And if you wasted the umpires time on 2 mistakes, then it is fair that you shouldn't ask for DRS anymore.

  • on January 31, 2012, 3:39 GMT

    Quite an obituary! I can't stop watching our following cricket, but I was really upset when Ashwin came to press conferences to say the team was only disappointed and not embarrassed! What more do u need to cause embarrassment?

  • Devyash on January 31, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    It's high time we make pitches like Australia,new Zealand,England at venues in India ,whenever we plan these overseas trip,we must keep 2 months camp over these venues so we can get custom to it,no need to play wt international teams at these venues but definitely we need lot of practices before going to big overseas trip,also we need bowlers who can bowl 145 plus as India doesn't have that pace @ our batsman cannot play the pace,how r they going to face pace @ swing together........we are not going to overseas for couple of years & all these will be soon forgotten as ipl & all series in India will start @ mostly we will win.........

  • garryc1036 on January 31, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    where it all went wrong? it all went wrong when India's star players avoid coming to the west indies tour before the England tour because maybe they thought they were too big or didnt need to waste time playing a struggling team like the WI. instead they were prob relaxing with their feet up cause they were No. 1

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 31, 2012, 1:50 GMT

    @soumyas. It's funny that you are still supporting Dravid. He must be from your state and/or caste. Therein lies the whole problem with Indian cricket team. There should be no quota system. Perform or perish - that should be the only criteria. Dravid was a great batsman in his peak. Nobody can deny that. But now he is 39+. His batting and catching will only get worse with time. There are other promising batsmen from Kranataka - Uthappa and Manish Pandey come to my mind. Did it ever occur to you that by not retiring Dravid might be blocking the way for your fellow Kannadiga batsmen like Uthappa and Pandey? Same thing goes for Tendulkar - by delaying his long overdue retirement, he is blocking the way for fellow Mumbai batsmen like Rohit and Rahane.

  • CricketWalia on January 31, 2012, 1:46 GMT

    Great article! It is frank and to the point. Great teams and players admit if something is wrong. If you are truly a good cricketer then you should at least be able to compete (not saying win) in all conditions. I am disturbed by the denial though not surprised. Does anyone remember the great Indian spin quartet? Now does anyone remember how their careers came to end? I remember the tour when Pakistan visited India and completely embarrassed the old lot. This is just history repeating itself with new actors, new roles and new venue. Just like most Indian movies the ending is the same.

  • Harry_Kool on January 31, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    This should be addressed to your board, Sidharth. They are the ones who are brushing this under the rug with the "wait till they come over here" comment. It would appear most true fans know there is an issue, something your board either can't or don't want to grasp. @jinkab. Perth was the only green pitch. Did you see Adelaide? Or Sydney? Hobart & Brisbane are as well. I do agree that your board needs to do something about pitches, they can & have produced fast bouncy pitches for tests e.g. Nagpur 2004. So why not have some pitches to use for both batsmen & bowlers to play on?

  • Digimont on January 31, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    Maybe in India you retire when your batting average is lower than your age. I think therefore they all have a couple of years left in them.

    Maybe Sharma and Ohja were taken along do they could witness the death of an era of Indian cricket, so they could help it to rise again.

    A message to the Indian team management...aim for mediocrity, you don't have to improve as much as you do to achieve excellence. Once you have mastered mediocrity (in a couple of years time maybe), then aim a little higher.

  • on January 31, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    Great Article...BCCI should organize dinner and give them shawl and sreephal and retire them respectfully....

    Best is to drop these old players ( sehwag,vvs,dravid, gambhir) and pick a young team which will take Indian cricket to next level.....

  • SuperSharky on January 31, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    Gary Kirsten created positive mental minds. Then India have won a World Cup and have become a little bit Big-Headed. Now the Auzzies has deflated those Big-Heads and Duncan Fletcher has to do all Gary Kirstens work all over again.

  • SuperSharky on January 31, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    A lot of cricketers in the past will tell you that one of the toughest mental challenges will be playing Australia in Australia. And if you give the Auzzies a sniff of your mental weakness like for instance being the only country in the world that can not understand DRS, you're in for a whitewash. Some Indian bowlers in the past have been accused of over-appealing for wickets. Sometimes appealing too much because they are so excited that they believe everything close should be out. And with the DRS it showed. When India use DRS, they use it quickly up because they are too eager for wickets. Ravi Shastri could also not understand why in tennis and cricket you only have 2 reviews. Why can't you review everything always, because some bowlers, who believes everything is out, will waste your time. And if you wasted the umpires time on 2 mistakes, then it is fair that you shouldn't ask for DRS anymore.

  • on January 31, 2012, 3:39 GMT

    Quite an obituary! I can't stop watching our following cricket, but I was really upset when Ashwin came to press conferences to say the team was only disappointed and not embarrassed! What more do u need to cause embarrassment?

  • Devyash on January 31, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    It's high time we make pitches like Australia,new Zealand,England at venues in India ,whenever we plan these overseas trip,we must keep 2 months camp over these venues so we can get custom to it,no need to play wt international teams at these venues but definitely we need lot of practices before going to big overseas trip,also we need bowlers who can bowl 145 plus as India doesn't have that pace @ our batsman cannot play the pace,how r they going to face pace @ swing together........we are not going to overseas for couple of years & all these will be soon forgotten as ipl & all series in India will start @ mostly we will win.........

  • garryc1036 on January 31, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    where it all went wrong? it all went wrong when India's star players avoid coming to the west indies tour before the England tour because maybe they thought they were too big or didnt need to waste time playing a struggling team like the WI. instead they were prob relaxing with their feet up cause they were No. 1

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 31, 2012, 1:50 GMT

    @soumyas. It's funny that you are still supporting Dravid. He must be from your state and/or caste. Therein lies the whole problem with Indian cricket team. There should be no quota system. Perform or perish - that should be the only criteria. Dravid was a great batsman in his peak. Nobody can deny that. But now he is 39+. His batting and catching will only get worse with time. There are other promising batsmen from Kranataka - Uthappa and Manish Pandey come to my mind. Did it ever occur to you that by not retiring Dravid might be blocking the way for your fellow Kannadiga batsmen like Uthappa and Pandey? Same thing goes for Tendulkar - by delaying his long overdue retirement, he is blocking the way for fellow Mumbai batsmen like Rohit and Rahane.

  • CricketWalia on January 31, 2012, 1:46 GMT

    Great article! It is frank and to the point. Great teams and players admit if something is wrong. If you are truly a good cricketer then you should at least be able to compete (not saying win) in all conditions. I am disturbed by the denial though not surprised. Does anyone remember the great Indian spin quartet? Now does anyone remember how their careers came to end? I remember the tour when Pakistan visited India and completely embarrassed the old lot. This is just history repeating itself with new actors, new roles and new venue. Just like most Indian movies the ending is the same.

  • Harry_Kool on January 31, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    This should be addressed to your board, Sidharth. They are the ones who are brushing this under the rug with the "wait till they come over here" comment. It would appear most true fans know there is an issue, something your board either can't or don't want to grasp. @jinkab. Perth was the only green pitch. Did you see Adelaide? Or Sydney? Hobart & Brisbane are as well. I do agree that your board needs to do something about pitches, they can & have produced fast bouncy pitches for tests e.g. Nagpur 2004. So why not have some pitches to use for both batsmen & bowlers to play on?

  • street_smart on January 31, 2012, 0:46 GMT

    We all know that all our experienced guys failed but I don't understand with this one or two series failure why they have to be dropped? Ponting was similarly down in form but never dropped & see how he has returned to form. Everybody is bashing Sehwag how he cannot play in bouncy pitches, then how the heck he scored 195 in Melbourne back then? Dravidian just failed this series. Laxman & sachin probably failed one or two more. When Austria or England loose in sub continent pitches, it is never said that they should go & prepare spin tracks in their domestic format. Then why India need to have bouncy track in domestic cricket? I also don't understand why fast & bouncy pitches are labeled as good pitches & rank turners are booed as worst pitches when both type of pitches demand skill.

  • Rohit.Kulkarni on January 30, 2012, 23:25 GMT

    Excellent article Siddharth!!Covered most aspects responsible for the kind of debacle. My favourite line "They used to win no doubt but never as comprehensively as they have lost over their last two series".Could have also shed more light on Zaheer not being fully fit and being unable to spearhead the attack.Not a single 5 wicket haul!! Also,Ashwin's fielding was worser than VVS's.

  • gothetaniwha on January 30, 2012, 22:28 GMT

    India are still in denial 8/0 in tests away from home and they blame the green wickets in Eng and Aus ,but these guys Dravid SRT and Laxman Sehwag have toured Eng , Aus ,SA, NZ plenty of times in the last 15/20 years and some of these 4 have played plenty of county cricket and played on these wickets . Wake up India or in 9 months time NZ will tour with 5/6 young quicks bowling at 40 year old granddads , good luck to ya , and a coach who knows all about Indian cricket ..... .

  • on January 30, 2012, 22:27 GMT

    Great article! And going by this, there seem to be a myriad of things that are not being done as they should. I agree with Jaschaggar - the problem is at the grassroots level. India has never been dominant in away series, and the simple fact of the matter is they never prepare well enough for them. They don't practice enough in local conditions, they don't seem to be executing (or even having) plans for opposition teams very often, they don't focus enough on their fitness... the list goes on and on. What we must remember though is that India are still one of the great teams in world cricket, and it was not that long ago that they held the World Cup in their hands. I think the belief will return with some wins under the belt... and if these come at home so be it. But I'm sure the fans are craving some form of change... even if they only change one thing - e.g. make some bouncy pitches - just do something and do it diligently.

  • Harry_67 on January 30, 2012, 22:23 GMT

    I totally agree with Ian Chappel's view that the biggest problem with the Indian team is their star status. It is more tham abvious that the Indian Cricket team is a team of stars first and then a team of cricketers. No where in the world a bunch of players are adored and paid so much for average performance....there is not even one cricketer who is not involved in TV and or Bollywood in some shape or form. N'thin wrong with dat as long as they perform on the cricket pitch. Other disturbing fact is apart from Tendulkar, Dravid, Sehwag, and Laxman none of the players have any humility either, they act like superstars when in India or overseas. However credit must be given where it is due and they have been playing some good cricket until the world cup. Some say that they are tigers at home and scared cats abroad but I don't see any other team setting the world on fire when they're touring either, look at what is happening to England...c'mon Team India, u're better tan this!!

  • AvidCricFan on January 30, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    One problem holding the coach back is the star status and fragile egos of players, blind fan support and media that always is looking for controversy. Fletcher may have taken a "go with the wind" approach learning from Greg Chappel fiasco. Greg Chappel may have been right calling spade for spade that way he saw. For a fan of Indian team, the biggest issue for me is the way this team lost all matches in England and Australia. Even the home series performance against WI was not stellar given the home conditions. If the performance of the past 2-3 years is taken into account, 7-8 players in this team needs to be replaced.

  • ProdigyA on January 30, 2012, 21:42 GMT

    I think the biggest problem is Dhoni. He looses any match in the very first session of the first day. If things do not go his way, he just gives up. No motivation, no enthu which actually spreads like a cancer among other players. Someone said his style of captaincy works only in ODI's and not tests, i think that is very true. Sack MS, Lax, Dravid, Sehwag, Ishant from the test team and we will be all set. And yes, Ashwin needs to work on his fitness, speed and fielding, i cant find out the difference between him and lax and thats as worse as it can get.

  • Prabhas on January 30, 2012, 20:44 GMT

    Good One But dont understand why IPL is being blamed by so many. The common argument is that IPL pays more money. But no one seems to talk about why is it paying more? Isnt it because we (fans) turn up in big numbers to watch the match in stadium and on TV? Isnt this the reason sponsors give more money to IPL players? So if we are so much concerned about the tests, why not ditch the IPL matches (yes, even on TV) and watch the full 5 (or whatever) days of test cricket from ground or on TV? Do we really think that there will be more money in IPL for the players if the fans watch more test cricket? And if money is the key motivator for the players, they will definitly perform (or atleast try to perform) better in test, right? So finally the key is the spectator, isnt it? Lets think about it before blaming players/BCCI.

  • jinkab on January 30, 2012, 20:18 GMT

    The blame also lies with ICC. ICC knew that we will be playing on green top pitches, so why didn't they prepare similar ptches for our players to practice on before their departuture for Australia?

    ICC needs to prepare green top pitches in every state and make it mandatory that a minimun of 30 or 40 percent of all first class matches will be played on them.

    Otherwise similar debacles will repeat in the future also.

  • myStraightTalk on January 30, 2012, 17:49 GMT

    I salute this guy for a bold and honest article. Upto the point and no-non sense comments about indian team. Way to go cric-info in putting article like this. Hope BCCI does not influence cricinfo and mug Sidharth Monga. Good one. Keep coming..

  • Jaschaggar on January 30, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    The fact of the matter is that clean up of the system in required right from the grassroot level, absolutely mandatory to get rid of the idiotic first innings lead rule in Ranji, its easy to blame IPL but i guess thats oversimplifying it

  • rgom on January 30, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    I am surprised that I have not heard till now. AUS/ENG/NZ/WI/SA can all be made to look less than pedestrian when they travel to India. But unlike the other boards BCCI wants maximum business and will not prepare a pitch that will produce results in 2 days. Remember the pitches we got in NZ in 2002 and see what we gave them when they came back to India.

    There is no excuse for India losing this badly. However, if the above mentioned teams lose badly on a turning wicket in India, the media reaction will not quite be the same. It is somehow worked into the minds of people that using spin as home advantage is somewhat cheating, while using pace as home advantage is quite the norm.

  • on January 30, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    Australia work out opponent batsmen and Bowler before the tour kick off.VVS luxman was a surprise for them in early 2000s with quality display of batting that Australia couldnot control him when he visited Australia 1999 and 281 not out in 2001 when he was recalled in test side , when Australia were almost unbeatable and they won 17 consecutive matches in early 2000s. To beat Australia , The opponent team are required to introduce quality new batsmen(debutants) like Virat Kholi, Although they played against him in IPL. To beat them is to surprise them with introduction of quality new batsmen,new spinner and fast bowlers. Because they don't know how to deal them until they play with players few matches. To Beat England, you are required to have quality spinners.

  • on January 30, 2012, 14:05 GMT

    Losing and Winning is the part of the game, the way the indian team lost , people believe bangladesh team could have challenged Australia for few sessions atleast. Not single inning they played with no deficit(leads), Not a single inning they bowled them out cheap, rather they could not bowled them out (10 players) many times. I mean to say they didnot stir any challenge to Aussies? Fighting with a loss is better than losing like this series. England are also losing but they are not losing the way the indians did, Australia have lost to India in India last year 2-0 but they didnot lose like this series.

  • LBWMan on January 30, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    T20's to blame. This hit and giggle crap will kill test cricket. Just look at how far the Indian test side has plummeted in no time. BCCI, reap what ye sow. Shameful.

  • BalKang on January 30, 2012, 13:26 GMT

    India TEST Squad going forward Draft 1 I have listed below what I believe is the first point of change in moving the India test side forward. I still need to work on the batting order but these are the contenders.

    Coach: Sourav Ganguly Back Up Staff: Anil Kumble Bowling Coach: Venkatay Prasad and Anil Kumble Battling Coach: John Wright Feilding Coach: Johnty Rhodes Analysts/Advisors - Technical and Been there and done that/it: Anil Kumble, Sachin Tendulkar and ....

    Players: 1. Ajinkye Rahane 2. Gauthm Ghambir 3. Wriddiham Saha (w) 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Virat Kohli 6. Virender Sehwag 7. Mahendra Singh Dhoni 8. Harbhajhan Singh 9. Ravichandran Ashwin 10. Zaheer Khan 11 .Umesh Yadav 12. Varun Aaron 13. Pragyan Ohja 14. Rohit Sharma 15. Dinesh Karthik 16. Ishant Sharma 17. Murali Vijay

    Mid Range Back Up Players (must have some sort of potential): Irfan Pathan

    Future Prospects: Rituraj Rajeev Singh Balwinder Sandhu Rahul Sharma

  • Tito-rao on January 30, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    Problem with Indian cricket is very obvious, it is IPL!! It is destroying Indian cricket exponentially as the upcoming players do not have to work hard to make their place in a test or one-day side because the money is in IPL. The whole temperament is based on 20-20 format so how do you expect them to be good in long formats. Half of the current team is expired and the other half is more worried about IPL contracts, after parties and media adverts and surprisingly enough BCCI seems not bothered about any of this at all..Good luck to Indian Cricket

  • on January 30, 2012, 12:49 GMT

    Man that article was so spot on, not saying just coz it concurs with my thoughts... but some very valid points you raised without beating around the bush or saying too little too late the way mr bogle or mr gavaskar do or like mr shastri never does... seriously sidhartha you have turned me into a fan.

    But honestly don't expect anything from this team and admin - where we have experienced guys like sehwag, gambhir, dhoni who ramble without gain. Youngsters who can't think straight but just bitch around. and legends who can't face the problems straight and are just hiding from criticism.

    All you can expect though is illogical, extreme excuses, statistical BS and disoriented comments from players, admins... and of course fans eating all that BS and icing it with star culture and runs which don't buy wins...

  • anukrtiti on January 30, 2012, 12:12 GMT

    india have to do sth.................its not the thing that somebody has to retire,or have to leave this team.........i believe this team will win and win seriously very well in overseas..... just the thing which i feel they need to do is to show unity in the field and not in the dressnig room and in thier hearts and also look at the past videos and take out their own faults and practice in nets,they have 2 or 3 months time before the next test and i think if they do well in dat they will surely encourage the next generation of world test cricket................

  • Noball_Specialist on January 30, 2012, 12:12 GMT

    Well, I do think this is a bit of an overreaction. If anything is to blame I would point the finger at Dhoni's captainship. Since the ODI WC he seems to have lost his cricket pitch mojo - he looks rather ragged and tired. Austraila are a tough team to beat in their own backyard and of course some criticism is due for certain members of the Indian camp. But to only blame the 'seniors' is a bit shortsighted. I think Laxman in particular must be freed from duty - Dravid must be given a go another series. Should he fail at that series - he should also be given the orders (sadly, I'm a big fan of Dravid). Dropping Tendulkar is out of the question - he's just overcome by his 100th 100 - he'll surge once he slays that gremlin. Anyway the batting isn't necessarily the biggest problem, it's the bowling. Indian bowlers are well - bad to say the least.

  • Smithie on January 30, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Sidarth - it is pity that you have chosen to reject my input on SRT /DRS/Srinivasan - this continues a worrying trend on Cricinfo of the application of a BCCI filter. I thought you were an unbiased journalist prepared to air reasonably presented viewpoints however it appears that the less professional aspects of Bal's biased editorial policy have constrained you. A less than professional approach that constrains healthy debate that is aimed at improving cricket overall. Why ?

  • Usmaan21 on January 30, 2012, 11:34 GMT

    India is a great team with some big names. This is not the end of world for them as they are capable of coming back. Teams do perform bad on ALIEN conditions i.e. England, Australia, Newzealand and South Africa struggle in sub-continent/UAE whereas India, Pakistan and Srilanka struggle on tracks offering swing, pace and bounce.

    The things that are missing in Indian team are fighting spirit, consistency and determination specially from the captian and senior players. Kohli, Sachin, Zaheer and Yadav have looked good on the series but Rohit Sharma was dearly missed.

    Harbhajan Singh, Munaaf Patel and Srisanth should have been in the squad for a better contest. I am sure that this still will bounce back in the shorter formats of the game. Goodluck Indian Cricket Team.

  • Kirk-at-Lords on January 30, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    If anyone doubts the validity of what Mr S Monga says here, I refer you to Mr R Dravid's recent comments about not even thinking about retiring until AFTER the next Test series over half a year from now. Even if the Wall retired before that series, it would lock in the 'paralysis of non-analysis' that has become standard in Indian cricket. For so great and (normally) selfless a servant of Indian cricket to take such a small-minded view, rather than set a gold standard for perceptiveness as he did in other contexts in the Bradman Oration last month, is a severe disappointment. Dravid ceded the stage to a vice-captain who can only speak sensibly through his bat, one that has now fallen ominously silent. All that is left are hollow words put in place by the BCCI: 'No need for anyone to retire'. As for captain Dhoni, the deafening silence reflects his level of non-engagement. The only thing sadder than the 4-nil whitewash is the self-inflicted Indian brainwash that has followed.

  • on January 30, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    First thing the selectors should do is to make awarness with cricketers all are dispensible, no one take their place for granted. Our superstars take their place for granted. So along with Viru , Gauti , Dravid and VVS , we need to drop sachin and send a meesage that anyone can be dropped if they do not perform. Dropping Sachin will make a difference of 50 odd runs , for grooming youngsters we can take that risk. Also one cannot keep going until Pointing sword is haging for century records, that will hurt the team cause. All have served the team well for years , the request is do not create burden for the same in future. Like England tours when batsmen failed we dropped bowlers , please do not make the mistake again.

  • PiyushD on January 30, 2012, 10:28 GMT

    Excellent article, it said everything.Need not say anything more.

  • on January 30, 2012, 10:16 GMT

    Why criticize everything without dwelling into the reason for failures. All of us must realize that we are the World Champions and also have a good world class tournament called IPL. Where we lack is in the test Arena. Now Umesh Yadav and Kohli are IPL products but did well in Tests , however we lost the tests because our Top 5 batsman failed to score a century, out of them except Laxman everyone plays IPL matches regularly , do you mean to say that IPL led to Dravid getting bowled?? We need to change the Test Team to bring in some josh among players, the oldies including Zaheer need to be dropped, I see everyone shouting about Dhoni, but he is a No 7 batsman ,he is supposed to have a average of 30, its the top 5 who must score, if we go like this ,we may drop umesh yadav for not scorng a century next time.

  • RaoBobby on January 30, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Lets not forget the years of happiness these trio (VVS/Rahul/Sachin) has given to india. i mean if there are two bad seires their must be 10's of good series so why you guys forgetting these 10's for 2. plus no one is talking about bowlers bowlers are equally responcible for loss if not more. example of pakistan last test against eng, batsman only give bowlers 146 runs to bowl and they won because bowler performed in indian team batsman carries the extra pressure that they have to give 350 plus to bowlers to get a real chance of winning. i bet there will be 100's of good fast bowlers in india its only need good managment/structure to bring them up but indian one eyed people always look for next sachin and co. from Pakistan

  • yorkerguru on January 30, 2012, 9:58 GMT

    There is only one thing I could say now! Why is the team management still not considering Zaheer Khan as a potential Indian captain??? What wron has this lad done in his tenure????

  • veerakannadiga on January 30, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    There is an old adage in India..."when your time is not good, even the dogs sleeping by the roadside bark/bite at you"..that is exactly what is happening to our team, or else what do you make of this sort of India bashing by all & sundry. Yes we had a couple of bad series but it is not as though the world has collapsed. Surely we can make a comeback. Countries, whose citizens do not even have a decent meal per day are belittling us & it hurts.After all this is a sport & should be treated as one. One can actually feel the sadistic happiness of some, due to our defeats, oozing out of the print.We at least lost fair and square unlike some who get bribed to cheat. Lets face it, a strong Indian cricket Test team is in the interest of world cricket and it is not the other way round. Instead of damning our team, just let them be... for surely the comeback is round the corner. AMEN.

  • KiwiRocker- on January 30, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    Good and honest article. I have played this sweet moment of Indian defeat thousand times in my mind. India has not lost 8-0 ( even more if you include ODIs) but they have been humiliated. Biggest farce is ICC rankings where India is ranked as second after losing eight test matches. Another joke is Sehwag- A Mere flat track bully who has scored nothing when it matters outside India. However, the real fact is that these defeats have finally exposed that how foolish Indian fans are who are worshipping a so called impostor and God of cricket Tendulya for years. Tendulya is no Ricky Ponting and has failed to deliver. Cricket is a team game and one man should not be blamed for India's defeats however if one has to be blamed then it is Tendulya. First James Anderson made a mockey of his Technique and now an Australian Third Eleven has exposed Tendulya and co. An Australian team without their best player Watson, Johnson, Cameron etc deserves a huge credit. Can Indian selector drop Tendulya?No!

  • darkage on January 30, 2012, 8:58 GMT

    im not getting why everyone is blaming dese seniors the problem is so much de biggest prob i felt in both england and australlia is openes we remember last time before de recent tour dinesh karthik was opening and he was splendid also last time sehwag was great before that also our openers laid de foundation and den our seniors laid de foundation dere is no question about dere capabilities also prob is dere age i agree but i dont think dey are responsible for everything also wat is dhoni doing as well as tailenders doing dere its like dese big3 has to do all de scoring and obviously presure will be on dem also and about bowlers zaheer is not in de best so try to get some solid openers and good keeper batsmen

  • Happy_AusBang on January 30, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    Everyone is putting the blame on the three icons but no one is talking about Sehwag. In my opinion, he should be the first to go. I am not saying he should be dropped forever, just a rest of one or two series so he can compete with the others, find form and justify his place in the team. By making him Vice Captain Indian selectors have made it difficult. He should not take himself as an automatic selection. And he has to Shut Up!

  • Gupta.Ankur on January 30, 2012, 8:35 GMT

    Why blame batting every time? what about our great bowlers including the great Zaheer Khan who give away 600 runs and 300,200's as if we are offering free lunches?

    Dravid is probably the best no.3 after Bradman and Sachin probably the greatest batsman ever to set foot on earth...

  • asifpharmacist on January 30, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    you all indian guys are very patriotic and thats gr8 to read but one thing which i felt is that all are cursing indian batting line .indian batsmen are the greatest of all times ,but you know all subcontinent players face difficulty with swing on fast pitches of aus/eng.the real poblem ,no one disussing is indian fast bowling.if u ve genuine bowlers,then one can defend 200 and 250's as well.if india fails to acheive big total y not australia? real fast or if not fast ,swing bowlrs are the need of the day.

  • Ammdex-tro on January 30, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    Not too many days ago, Sehwag scored a sensational double hundred in an ODI against WI, and Indians treated him like God. And now the same set of people are calling him to retire. Not too many days ago, Dhoni captained India to the World Cup trophy, and Indians almost worshipped him. And now they are calling to axe him from captaincy. Sachin Tendulkar has been India's cricket icon for the past 20 something years, and after a bad couple of series, Indians consider him useless? Wake up Indians, you can't get gold everytime, this is a competetive sport. Its the players themselves who'll decide when to retire, not you. And they've got the right to do so, because they've done so many great things for your country.

  • kurups on January 30, 2012, 7:47 GMT

    well written article...only a complete overhaul of the system with special emphasis on providing pitches & conditions of bouncy and seaming wickets will generate skillful future players consistently that hopefully will make india a better team. Tendulkars, dravids, sehwags, etc..probaby happen only once in a generation and waiting for another of those kinds to appear is like a lottey. Better change the system and get everyone prepared to perform overseas!!!Gauti, Dhoni, Vinay Kumar were from the start of their career and still are all massively deficient in skills to perform overseas and why were they picked?...based on some stupid domestic records!!!..and without assessing any skill levels!!!

  • on January 30, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    And, to add to their denying attitude now, they may end up playing better in the tri-series, winning a great excuse to forget this whole thing. The problem here is that the captain, the vice captain, the selectors, up to the board are all part of it, and they will simply not accept that this is horrible. That's what is reflected in what you wrote: "The batsmen kept failing but kept getting picked and kept batting in the same positions on the top of that." If the seniors aren't retiring, why couldn't one or two of them be dropped in the 3rd or 4th test? Why would Kohli bat at 6 even after top scoring in 3 consecutive innings, and getting out last-man twice? Sehwag's arrogance is fine sometimes, but saying "we also won 2-0" was nonsense; both those matches were pretty close.

  • soumyas on January 30, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    @Al_Bundy1, your team will loose against bangladesh in indian pitches itself...;)

  • soumyas on January 30, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    yupe DRAVID has failed but still look at his stats in last 8 overseas TESTs, 16-innings, 655-runs, 46.78-avg... and he is the only batsman(currently playing) having 45 plus avg in overseas.... look at the below querry... http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;result=2;spanmax1=31+jan+2012;spanmin1=01+Jan+2011;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

  • premendrasinghal on January 30, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    Everybody is questioning in media about 3 seniors. But taking the failure in whole suggests that Indian openers are bigger failure than those 3, they didn't spend enough time with new ball and so no 3, 4 and 5 came too early to bat. In my opinion the young Gambhir didn't look so promising in the crease and he has also become a very slow mover in the field when he was fielding at midwicket and allowed Australians to take single except the Hussey's dismissal he looked a poor performer to me. And what we can say about Sehvag. He is no more fit for an opening position. We must find a better opening pair for India.

  • rockee1980 on January 30, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    Why indians are in denial that there is no problem in indian cricket and this is just a temporary phase. facts are - Sehwag , Gambir and Dhoni have technical flaws while playing on bouncy and seaming pitches where as the BIG THREE are over the hill and should be shown the door. Indian cricket needs an Argus review like the australians because losing 8-0 so badly is very embarrassing for indian cricket followers even though players like Ashwin , sehwag may feel otherwise....It's time to blood youngsters lik rohit , pujara, meneria , etc...

  • sweetspot on January 30, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    @Hasnain Sarfraz - Michael Clarke did not "give up" any IPL offer. He was not in any demand there! If this series had taken place in India, Australia will be taking a hard look at themselves. NO team is winning much away these days in conditions unfamiliar to them.

  • sweetspot on January 30, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    What nonsense! Increasingly, more and more teams are ONLY winning in conditions they are familiar with. Look at England going down to Pakistan. Now England does not have class or mental fortitude if they lose to India and Sri Lanka? Look at the vast number of experts who have suddenly found all sorts of reasons why India is now a trash team! Hello! This is a team that was #1 even after the World Cup. That's not that long ago. So many faults in Dhoni's captaincy? Which captain in the world is aggressive these days in Tests? If everyone is so wise, why not the coach of the team? Sometimes things don't go according to plan. No need to panic. Just enjoy the cricket and let the people in the right places do their jobs. They are not fools who need advice and expertise from all and sundry.

  • D.Sharma on January 30, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    Dravid failed in one series and people want him dropped. Sachin hasn't performed in any series and has skipped one since SA... and people want him to stay in the team. Where is the sense in that?

  • S_Nath on January 30, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    You are bang on target! May be, this article should be circulated to all those who are in denial mode. The way all in the team including young players are talking the same language, it appears, there is some kind of player union over there. But the funny thing is, it appears that even BCCI officials are part of this union. Is it that having purchased all these superstars at abnormal prices by IPL teams including the one owned by BCCI President, they have no choice but prop up these stars till the completion of their contract periods for IPL? If that is so, they are digging their own grave. The fans are so angry that this may probably boomerang on them and they may find low interest in IPL & cricket itself if the indian team is performing like this.

  • on January 30, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    vvs has definitely had a very rough patch and a lengthy one. Being on the wrong side of the age, it is time that he gives space for Rohit. but I dont know why ppl are behind tendulkar and dravid. Even the opposition has accepted that Tendulkar is the only man in form. He has been scoring runs, although not getting the most awaited 100th 100. Coming to Dravid, last year had been the best he had had. He was the top scorer in world cricket and only man to come from Eng with head held high. These terminators will definitely go one day. Lets not force them to do so. For me the player in fault are gauti and viru. It has been the history of indian cricket that they have succeeded in alien condition only with the openers giving them a fair start. It time for selectors and team management to form a strategy. I don't think dropping the Big 3 is going to solve the problem. It might even worsen it

  • maheshrathi on January 30, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    A reasonable article, but one key piece is missing: we need sporting pitches back home and the media needs to accept the blame for not keeping this issue alive.

    What I agree with and what really surprised me in this tour was Dhoni's defensive captaincy and the coach being MIA. Kohli is a great leader, in Ganguly mode, and I hope he is given the captaincy.

    While I agree that VVS must be let go, I do not agree with letting go of Dravid and Tendulkar. Have we forgotten what Dravid did in England? I also believe that Tendulkar played really well in this series.

    Even with this bad January, I predict that Tendulkar will end 2012 with an annual batting average of over 50 in both tests and ODIs.

  • maheshrathi on January 30, 2012, 5:06 GMT

    You have missed one key point this article. What is needed the most is to prepare sporting pitches back home. This is where the media needs to take some blame for letting this issue die down.

    As for the seniors, it is definitely time to let go of VVS, especially since we already have a lot of youngsters like Rohit to replace him. However, before we ask for Dravid's head, let's not forget what happened in England. Similarly, Tendulkar played pretty well in this Australian series. We will soon find out that Sehwag spoke the truth when he said this Australian bowling is really good and they did not bowl many lose balls.

    The point about Dhoni's captaincy is valid. That is what really surprised me in this series...don't know why he became so defensive. Same with the coach.

    I think we will compete well in the ODI series and I believe India will bounce back rather strongly over the next 24 months and be back at number 2 in the world.

  • AtticusFinch on January 30, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    Siddhart Monga, Lovely Article. But Nothing Will Change. Dhoni will continue, the pathetic opening partnership will play several more tests, S/R/VVS will never retire and will not be dropped either, Batting orders have been carved in Stone, Stand-up-comedy Press Conferences will continue.Srikkanth will continue and the BCCI will be counting the cash already that will accrue from the next three editions of IPL. Hail the great Indian Circus.

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    well put!!! ...but will it have any effect on the powers tht take the decision...hard to say..? None of the seniors right from vengsarkar,gavaskar kapil till saurav..left a good example of graceful exit...had to be pushed nudged out...nobody left a good legacy....and dravids statement was unlike dravid.... probably it will take another white wash...to have bcci take any action.

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:41 GMT

    I am a Pakistani. These players are making so much money that i think it is difficult for them to motivate themselves and train hard to win against a team like Australia. IPL is destroying Indian test team and the amount played by Indian players may also have contributed to this lethargic effort. Anyway, India beat Australia in India, so that makes the two teams equal.

  • God_Save_Cricket on January 30, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    I am simply bemused @ the excuses given by the team as well as the management. We no longer need to sing of the past glories. With all due respect, I sincerely feel the team composition requires a complete re-jig. If we really need to maintain our test playing status as one of the top contender, we better take some pro-active measures. With this team and with this defensive frame of mind we are not moving forward, but backwards. Seniors, kindly let others be given a chance. You have had your days. It would be great if you take a break, for get about retiring, get yourselves into form and prove to the world that you still have cricket left in you to play for the nation. Losing once or twice ain't an issue, but losing consistently and that too by an innings, is somethign not expected of a team like India. We can say the same with Zimbabwe who are currently building up. Guys, come on and grow up!!!!! May the cricket thrist in people carry on and don't let it die.

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:32 GMT

    A real soul searching article. One should accept the reality. While doing so there is ever chance to take corrective steps. Bold steps are to be taken for the sake of Indian cricket. 'Through the dark woods one has to travel to keep the promises'

  • ArjunVS on January 30, 2012, 4:28 GMT

    Shame on you Sidharth !!

    The comment from Kumble that day at the press conference was "Only one team played within the spirit of cricket (or was it the game) today".

    As a journalist, it is unethical for you to misquote and misrepresent to get a story line.

  • featurewriter on January 30, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    Sidharth, your commentary on India's performance in Australia, and their laundry list of excuses, is paralleled in your writing. It's riddled with the same blame-finding language that we heard from the players' lips this summer. How about the truth? Tendulkar was self-focused, not team-focused. Kholi is a pretentious brat. Laxman played beyond his use-by date (though I have loved watching him bat in the past). Dravid was a man out of form, despite coming from a purple patch. Gambhir never looked comfortable on Australian wickets. Sehwag has become an impatient, impulsive batsman. Dhoni captained his team like 12-year-old playing backyard cricket. Sharma has immense talent, but only harnesses a small percentage of it; and that is wasted because he too easil falls victim to Australia's targeted sledging tactics. Zaheer was probably the standout, but he didn't receive enough support from the captain or the batsmen (in terms if building scores from which to attack, not defend).

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    BAN IPL in India u will see the result. Players and Board are here to make money not to play cricket. Right now even teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe can beat in India in Test Cricket. Why? This is because They are not playing for Country. They are playing for Money (IPL) Kick out IPL from India It will make them to play for the country.

  • IAS2009 on January 30, 2012, 4:19 GMT

    if one have to loose so badly why not with youngsters, at least there will be future, I agree the big three will not get better, there will be some spark in home series in coming months but it will be all decline.

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    As a Pakistani, I am confused by many comments here that are after Rahul, Sachin or Laxman to retire? Why? With the exception of Laxman both Sachin and Rahul played much better then most juniors.Also 1 series failures does not make them "over the hill" "bad" etc. They each have another 12 to 36 months of cricket left in them and it will be a shame to see them dropped just like this. Bu there are very few comments about the main person who is responsible for the losses here. Mahender Sing Dhonei- a useless captain who stays behind the wocket and does nothing what a captain does. Is this the captain who slected Vinay Kumar over Irfan Pathan? He is no Anil Kumble . He is no Ganguly-perhaps one of the best captain the subcontinent has seen. It was Ganaguly's team that won all the matches. His team gave victories to Dhoni and Dhoni got the credit. Dhoni also destryed Ganguli's team and and now has started loosing. People call hi captan cool. I call him uselss captain who doesnt have a clue.

  • ravi-1967 on January 30, 2012, 4:06 GMT

    This is a very bad moment for Indian Cricket. Now rumours are on that Dhoni would be stripped of test captaincy and Sehwag would be made captain. This is a sad state of affairs. What is Sehwag's overseas record for which he is considered for captaincy. Leave alone captaincy he does not deserve to be in the team. People including past cricketers are baying for the seniors to move ahead and let youngsters come in. Nobody seems to be talking of Sehwag's performance.

    Sehwag says he has not got his due and blames Dhoni for it. Is that why he is batting like this and letting the team down. Questions to be asked by every one. Let us not question the credibility of the 3 greats (Dravid, Sachin and VVS) but focus on what Sehwag has done for his team and country.

    As Indians we should be behind the team and support them. BCCI does not deserve our support. If all supporters boycott the IPL then it would die a natural death. IPL is the root cause of the debacle of Indian Cricket.

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:01 GMT

    indians typically have a very short memory. a couple of memorable wins in the upcoming ODI series. and everything is forgotten. This is why Dravid is not talking about retirement yet. Nor is VVS. If BCCi and the leaders had any sort of urgency, we would have seen Rohit Sharma play in Adelaide. But that did not happen. With such low expectations, India can never be a credible #1, let alone #2.

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    Lovely summary Sidharth. A lot is being said aboutr seniors and batting but not enough is being directed at the bowlers. Part of why their batsmen outbatted us is because our blowers underperformed. Just a few weeks ago, Australia scored 284 shooting out SAF for 95. How did they respond? Not a listless gifting of centuries and giving up the game but shooting Australia out for 47. Batting is more individual, and getting opposition out a much more team thing : captain+fielding+bowlers. We failed even more in the latter.

  • Tweak_it on January 30, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    Agree with most of the points in the article. In defense of the denial mode, it is not easy to dismiss the past performances of the batting greats. In England Dravid was our best batsman, Gautam was struggling with injuries, Sehwag back from one and Sachin / VVS had a bad tour. Against West Indies at home, RD and VVS were No 2 & 3 in the run scorers list with averages of 64 and 99 respectively. Hence I have no doubt that the right squad was picked. What is worrying is the stubbornness after the defeats in the first 2 test matches. With the series on the line, there were no changes (bar the ill-advised Vinay Kr) at Perth and more shockingly at Adelaide where at least Rohit and Ojha, if not Rahane as well, deserved a chance. Moving on, besides the shelf life of the Big 3, we need to seriously look at Gambhir's form, Sehwag's approach outside subcontinent, Dhoni's batting and captaincy in Tests outside India, Ishant's lack of wickets and absence of a spinner with an X-factor.

  • MaheshChalke on January 30, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    What is issue with Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid? They never play like this.

  • satish619chandar on January 30, 2012, 3:53 GMT

    Denial.. It should be absolutely smashed.. How come a team with record fail for 8 times.. Ok.. Such a big team failed for 8 matches on a trot.. Shouldn't there be anything wrong? Captaincy was bad by both and batting atrocious.. Bowling was always weak point but failed to stand up in favorable conditions too.. Imagine a situation if India won first test by bowlers not allowing the tail to wag.. If the team is going to deny everything, people ll lose interest in home wins too.. Unfortunately, other sports are not rising the level in India.. Otherwise, cricket ll easily follow the track of Hockey!!!

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:49 GMT

    Yes I fully agree with the contenst of this article, the Indian media and Commentators are to blame, ther subscribe to the usual excuses, which the teams is now famous for. The Indian team is packed with talent, but old age is the draw back, you may be the best in any sport but comes a time you must face reality and retire or else how will promissing youngsters get a chance. Why is India the only team to object to DRS is it because they are still depending on Umpire favours (using the IPL as an incentive).

    Come on India pls dont use your power (Political and Financial) to win matches like you did in the final of the last World Cup. You are now paying the price.

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    The comments of some our cricketers are worse than their performance.But this is nothing new. Its been part of our civilization.

  • Alexk400 on January 30, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    FIRE DUNCAN FLETCHER. He was making free money. 8-0 anyone with common sense will fire the coach. Not sure why still have the job. Why old guys still in the team. what to achieve for dravid and vvs. Nothing. Atleast sachin need a century. Lets call zimbabwe or team with no tall fast bowlers to play against india so sachin can make his century and we can forget about it. He is sole reason for indias 8-0 loss. No one else. Period. Sehwag should have moved to middle order. Not sure why he played in opening , It almost seems like no one want to make a change and become a scapegoat and target for villification by media. It is quiet clear why indian team afraid to make change even with impending loss. They lacked the courage and coach just wants to make money and not want to be next greg chapell fiasco. It is quiet simple. Stars rule indian cricket. Unless BCCI chop them off it is not going to work.

  • kmgnath on January 30, 2012, 3:34 GMT

    After the world cup, Indian players are in their honeymoon. They don't want to play spirited/challenging cricket. Indian cricketers have to grow up in all the forms including mentally. BCCI has to rewamp its strategies regarding many, No thugs in the board, Promot cricket not just money, IPL is killing international cricket, today its test cricket tomorrow it'll be ODIs, If a player is not performing send him to NCA immediately don't keep on giving chances and finally shut the doors on him, Fitness should be given high priority including batting, bowling, fiding, attitude and mental strenght to challenge, work on the domestic infracstructure so that you can get high quality, IPL money is spoiling the players, its time to reduce the IPL players values and should be linked to test cricket. Eng, Aus..few other boards are jelous about BCCI , so they are going cut throwt way, India should raise up rather then be a cry baby. No polititions in cricket board plz, sack the underperformers,

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:28 GMT

    Fire the coach. Since he came in there has been no show of spirit from the team. The rot started in the West Indies tour, when India refused to chase at 4 runs per over to win, and instead agreed to end the game with some 60 runs needed from 15 overs!!

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 3:20 GMT

    Duncan Fletcher may be is not bad, but still it doesn't hurt to change the coach, may be he is just unlucky for Indian cricket, also time to change the bowling coach, under Eric Simmons we see no improvement in our bowling unit, why can't India take Wasim Akram or Glen Mcgrath as bowling coach.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 3:19 GMT

    Ishant is not unlucky, he should learn from Stuart Broad or Siddle, both of them were so ineffective last year when they used to bowl short, now they are bowling full and they got rich dividents, Ishant sharma with his pace, height, swing, if he bowls full he will definitely get bag full of wickets, he has discard the notion that bowling short is his natural length, that is rubbish. if he keeps bowling short he would not continue to not get wickets, and he would have to consolde himself saying he is unlucky

  • on January 30, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    Indian fans should not show disrespect to Dravid, Laxman and Sachin. These 3 players deserve eternal respect for what they did for Indian Cricket. Even against England, Dravid was the only player who tried putting some fight. Please dont blame the Indian Batsmen. Indians need to blame their bowlers. Australia won cause they are one of the top bowling side and India lost cuz India's bowlers are worst than Afghanistani Bowlers. Hence it was easy for Australia to flood the scorecard with runs.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    Pujara should be drafted in the Test team immidiately. Pujara, Rohit Sharma, Ajinkye Rahane and Kohli - these young players should be persisted with in Test cricket, they are future of indian cricket.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    Kohli has to tell himself he can be one of the best in the world in Test cricket, he should take Test cricket more seriously an show the world the same.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:54 GMT

    Dhoni is playing as wicket keeper/batsman/captain in IPL, CL, T20, ODI, Test, it is hurting India that its captain is mentally and physically exhausted, either he has to quit wicket keeping/captaincy in IPL and CL, or he has to quit captaincy in Test cricket.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:54 GMT

    make Gambhir captain, responsibility might bring the best in him and he might start scoring tons after tons, like Clarke.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:53 GMT

    no need for any of the veterans to retire, rather senior players should be rotated, so that more young players get to play against weaker opponents, and against stronger opponent indian team should be picked on merit be it senior or young players.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:53 GMT

    BCCI's priorities are wrong, Ranji trouphy 4 day match tournament should be India's no. 1 domestic tournament, not IPL. over importance to IPL is doing big damage to Indian cricket.

  • thekobra on January 30, 2012, 2:39 GMT

    I don't understand. When did anyone deny we lost badly in Australia?

  • binojpeter on January 30, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    What we need badly is a captain who is still ready to attack with three slips in place even if opposition goes at 4 per over.

  • on January 30, 2012, 2:21 GMT

    Look everyone is cursing when Indians don't play well, after all cricket is engraved in our blood, Dhoni or Swehag captain both got cursed, the only person who will not get cursed as he is a living idol is "Little master" Tendu make him captain even though he did not do well once as a captain we will not curse who we worship as an idol win or loose!! Frankly i think the Aussies bowled exceptionally well, good line and lenght and with clever variation, only one who has that ability as a bowler was the experienced Zaheer. and hats off to Clarke as an outstanding captain, and who says older players can't do well== did younot see how Ricky played, still respected even though his term of being captain was not the best!!

  • Meety on January 30, 2012, 2:01 GMT

    The worst thing that can happen to India is if the big 3 all retire at the same time. That will leave a MASSIVE hole in the side. Clearly though, regeneration is required. IMO - VVS is the most vulnerable. Dravid looks like he still wants to scrap & I think can fix his game, Sachin is close to untouchable atm, so it's VVS. I think Sehwag could drop down the order & play as an allrounder. I think Ghambir has got some fight in him & given he did well against the Saffas in Saffaland should be kept. So its VVS to go now & Dravid next.

  • Patchmaster on January 30, 2012, 2:00 GMT

    The money and greed of the IPL destroyed the very giants that helped create it, i.e. Tendulkar, Sehwag etc. They went for the money, but they parted with their skill, courage and mental strength in return.......what a shame for the game of cricket.

  • on January 30, 2012, 1:55 GMT

    time gambhir is shown the door and the seniors rotated!!

  • fairdinkum on January 30, 2012, 1:42 GMT

    Everyone is targetting the batsmen to vent their anger, but you don't understand cricket. India will never win away from home until they have a bowling attack that is disciplined and bowls as a team, building pressure. It simply wasn't evident in this series but, in contrast, the Australian bowling attack has improved dramatically and has become capable of taking 20 wickets every time. Australia is the same team bowled out for less than 100 runs not long ago. It's up here, mate (I am pointing to my head). If you are confident your bowlers can get the 20 wickets, the batsmen improve dramatically

  • Nathan74 on January 30, 2012, 1:41 GMT

    Indian Cricket Board is not interested in winning games. Play IPL at all costs and rip-off Indian public. Indians should boycott IPL. All players who don't perform should be dropped. Stop hero wrshiping. Tendulkar may have been a master batsman. That is what he is a "Has Been". Now he is master failure. Dravid was wall. Now he is a hole. Lakshman I don't want to even speak about him. It is time Ishant to go back to training school. Zaheer Khan has been on injured list more than played. He is on his way out. BCCI should get a fitness coach for them. Don't let these players do their exercises on the bed. Their field is horrible. Basically everyone must attend basic traing and fitness. You want to be paid good money and want star ataus earn it. You all are just stray cows on the streets of India.

  • dilscoop_uk on January 30, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    I wonder what diff Sachin's 100th Intl Century is going to make to the future of Test Cricket of India. All of these 3 Pensioners should go now ! we don't need ur records.

  • on January 30, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    Rohit Sharma has a first class average of 63, once Rravid, Tendulkar or Laxman retires, he can replace one of those but try replacing two others.

  • Cricket_theBestGame on January 30, 2012, 1:11 GMT

    india's solution. kill IPL and allow players to play county cricket in off season. make playing domestic cricket mandatory while not on national duty. aust players will play Sheffield cricket the first chance they get..thats how clarke got back in form and in side after 2005 ashes !

  • SantoshPawar on January 30, 2012, 1:02 GMT

    It has become a routine exercise for Indian cricket players and the establishment to hide their inadequacies and flaws by bringing up past performances. Hey, does anyone live in the past to keep clinging to it in the present! Everyone lives in the present and only thing relevant in the present is how and what you are doing now. This Indian team and establishment is full of arrogance because it is only when one has humility that one understands about and learns from their mistakes and flaws. This Indian team has closed the doors to learning. You can see it from the players statements after a 4-0 whitewash. Rather than hanging their heads in shame and introspecting, several players are merely retorting about past performances. Time to kick out all non-performers from this team. It time for Gambhir, Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Dhoni, Zaheer, Ishant to go. The senior players past their prime have to go home and rest need to go back to domestic cricket for learning basics of playing cricket.

  • Rockfort on January 30, 2012, 0:56 GMT

    Only way to turn around is to drop all the seniors. The 150-200 rus scored can be scored by Raina and others. Also, with dropping of Dravid the silp fielding may improve. One thing is, Dravid has a very low strike rate. He allows the opposition bowlwers to get into a nice line and length making it difficult for lower order batsmen.

  • insightfulcricketer on January 30, 2012, 0:50 GMT

    Cricket is a team game .You live as a team and die as a team. Australia had that spirit at crucial times. Got to pay tribute where due that Australia is a proud country with strong willed people who play their sport (any) hard and skilfully. It showed in the way their fast bowlers would slide athletically after bowling a long spell. Ponting showed an old dog can learn new tricks while keeping the fielding skills intact inspite with age catching up. Clarke showed guts ,gumption and good on him.He will keep the Oz cricket flag high. Ok I got to dig the pitches in India so they are all flaky and dusty before Oz come home. We will be waiting anxiously to get a few things "straight" of our own :)

  • S.N.Singh on January 30, 2012, 0:36 GMT

    ALTHOUGH THE WRIFER SEEMS TO BE RIGHT, I THINK TENDULKAR, DRAVID, AND LAXMAN, SHOULD CONTINUE TO PLAY. KHOLI, RAINA, AND SHARMA SHOULD GET A PLACE IN THE SIDE. THE PROBLEM INDIA IS HAVING IS TO GET AN OPENING STAND. SEHWAG AND GAMBHIR HAV TO GIVE A START. THERE IN NOT ONE MATCH DRAVID AND TENDULKAR GET TO BAT WITHOUT PRESSURE. TENDULKAR DO NOT GET TO PLAY HIS OWN GAME ,HE HAS TO BAT UNDE PRESSURE. THE PROBLEM WITH INDIA IS THE BOWLING. THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM WITH INDIA IS, IT IS WITH THE BOWLING DEPARTMENT. THE COACH IS ALSO THE PROBLEM, HE IS ALLOWED TO TELL THE PLAYERS AND TEAM WHAT AND HOW TO DO . TAKE THE COACH OUT FROM A SERIES AND SEE WHAT HAPPEN, LET THE MANAGER AND CAPTAIN DO THE JOB. GET A BOLING TEAM AND THE TEAM WILL PLAY WELL, PLAY THREE SPINERS. S.N.SINGH USA

  • ptnair on January 30, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    @Saswat Praharaj :- you are wrong.. check the stats... @Wasif Alvi :- you are correct. VVS and Dravid should take a break... @Hassaan Mansoor - you said it.. IPL destroyed the team and it will continue to do so. Time for Dhoni to step aside and experiment a new captain... @Al_Bundy1:- You are partially correct. Dropping all seniors in one step will be too ambitious. One at a time, starting with the poor performer will a better option.

  • Dashgar on January 30, 2012, 0:26 GMT

    I think the greatest indictment on India was that after 3 tests of batting failures they still didn't pick Rohit Sharma or Rahane. The sooner India shed the 3 the better for their rebuilding.

  • sackthem on January 30, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    SIMPLE SOLUTION- Non Performance Boot Them, if the selectors have the guts. Those oldies will not leave on their on accord with the fame and money they recieve they need to hang in for few more years. Can anyone imagine them retiring. I don't think so until the board takes action. Lame excuses, we have whitewashed them 2-0.

  • Shaun_wick on January 30, 2012, 0:09 GMT

    My view is, Indian team is a very good team in India and sometime in other sub continent countries only. But when they come into western countries to play cricket they are not a good perform team. India is the worst country comparing with other sub continent countries Sri Lanka and Pakistan under overseas performance. SL and Pak records in overseas are much better than Indian team. Till Indian team plays in India, I guess they can consider as one of the best teams in the world. But outside the indian soil, I guess they are not strong at all. just a basic team. They need young blood, specially in balling side....!

  • bobagorof on January 30, 2012, 0:09 GMT

    It was mentioned years ago and now it looms ever closer - the retirement of the entire Indian middle order at once. The players have the right to continue playing for as long as they like, but their selection is not guaranteed - however, there will come a time in the near future when Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman will not be in the side, and only careful management will allow a smooth transition instead of a mass exodus. Perhaps this process should have started a few years ago. Australia started last year, with Katich being dropped, but will still contend with Ponting and Hussey retiring in the next 2 years, but they have tried new blood and will have some experience to carry them through. The longer India wait, the worse the problem will be when they eventually can avoid it no longer.

  • Naikan on January 29, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    It is easy to lambast the batsmen and not look at the real problem. The real hint is in the statement of how the team tried to get Ponting by use of bouncers. The pitches in Australia assisted the bowlers who bowled well and to a plan. In reality the Australian batsmen should never have managed a double hundred, leave alone a triple. The Indian bowling allowed the rebirth of Ponting and the Australian batting and failed not just from a lack of ability but also a lack of proper and latest intel. The process of getting a highly paid coach to do that for the players has finally backfired. I question how effective an Englishman or an Australian coach is when India plays against these two countries. Our worst performances seem to have come under such coaching.

  • donda on January 29, 2012, 23:26 GMT

    I just say one thing that Indian nation don't deserve these legend players because if you don't give respect to a legend you will not get another one for years. Sachin played for 22 years and won WC for the country. But who cares, it was last year. Talk about today, it seems like Sachin has to prove every moment of his life that he is the greatest cricketer ever born. But who cares in India.

    India was #1 team because of these legends. Now they are down and it's time to disrespect these legends because they are old.

    Only in India fans disrespect greatest sportsmen, so sad to see how ungrateful this nation is even after wining WC 2020, ODI and #1 rank in test.

    I don't know what Indian fans want from their cricketers, may be they want them to catch moon instead of a ball for them. How sad.

  • S.N.Singh on January 29, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    THIS ARTICLE IS GOOD TO GET PLAYERS TO GET UP AND GET.HE DID HIGLITED THE FACT ABOUT COACH AND MANAGEMENT. THIS A PROBLEM WITH INDIA, BCCI, THEY HAVE COMPLEX FOR EXPATRIATE. THEY CONTINUE TO HIRE COACHES FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY. WHAT HAPPENNED TO THE SENIOR/EXPERIENCED PLAYERS IN INDIA ? ALL INDIA NEED IS A BOWLING COACH,, THIS IS THEIR PORBLEM FOR DACADES. INDIA ALWAYS DEPENDS ON THEIR SPINNERS. NOW WITH ADVICE FROM COACHES THEY CHANGE THAT. DO NOT ALLOW THE COACH TO DICTATE THE GAME. ALLOW THE CAPTAIN TO STEER THE BOAT, ASSISTED BY THE MANAGER. COACHES CHANGE THE PLAYERS WAY OF PLAYING ? INDIA NEED PEOPLE LIKE KAPEL DAV , ZAHEER KHAN AND MADAN LALL TO HELP THE YOUNG BOWLERS. CHANGE THE PRESENT TEAM ADMINISTRATION. INDIA PHYSICAL FITTNESS TEAM IS VERY POOR ? S.N.SINGH USA

  • on January 29, 2012, 23:07 GMT

    I enjoyed this article. U can run but u can't hide. WI fans knew this was coming. The writing was on the wall since the Indian tour of the WI. Yes they won,as was expected. But their victories in the WI and even in India agst a #7 team were far from convincing. On the tour of the WI they made all sorts of excuses, for their rather ordinary performance. In INDIA the same thing. Well there was no hiding in Aus. The truth was revealed, they were never #1 material. Could u believe Lyon of all person, destroying the mighty India batting lineup, that included the 'great' Sachin, on a batting paradise. Don't make me laugh.

  • on January 29, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    As a Pakitani I have little say. Mr. Is lucky captain .he is not true captain. I did not see him motivate the players. He just stand behind the doing nothing. Bring the captain like dada. Otherwise India going to be paper champion. They are good players . They should say good bye to old horses. Thanks for not let Pakistani player in ipl. Most of the player in right now is money hungry.selection committe what you find good in I. Sharia and not irfan Pathan.

  • on January 29, 2012, 22:31 GMT

    Good article - I must say as an Aussie I was flabbergasted to hear Ashwin basically say "well you win some and you lose some - sh*t happens". I think that is a sign of not being in the right place mentally. The Australian attitude is that you would die for your team if necessary - the Indians need a bit more of that attitude. Kohli has that sort of mentality - just needs to direct it better. He was the highlight of the summer really, and mostly because he just wanted to be involved, which was a feeling I didn't get from any of the other Indians.

    This series made me worry about the future of Test Cricket - it all seemed "too hard" for the Indian team - if they lose the passion, and sell out to the easy money and fame of T20, what will happen to the longer form? It's only after you've conquered the test arena that you are a true cricketing hero - after all, which of Sachin's, Virender's or VVS's innings do we remember - the test innings!

  • on January 29, 2012, 22:31 GMT

    No one should ask seniors to retire but they should be selected on merit. In Indian team players like VVS and Zak are selecting themselves in to the team. Chief selector is agreeing simply because his son is not yet ready to take one of the spots. The day he is ready, one of the seniors would be axed without notice.

  • THINK_BEYOND on January 29, 2012, 22:26 GMT

    @ Hassaan Mansoor: My Pakistani brother, you are spot on!! Also happy to see the way your team is building up. Wish ur team good luck in the next T20 WC. I am a Hindu and an Indian, but the next team I like to watch and enjoy watching is Pakistan. Well obviously when it is India-Pakistan I support my country like you do.

    @ Sanj747: I agree with you, the problem is with our system. We are not born as fierce competitors, neither do we show fairness in selection that is definitely not based on talent, otherwise Irfan, Abu Nechim would have been part of the squad instead of Vinay and Mithun. No rotation policy - still a big fan of big 3, is it not time to start giving chance to Rohit, Tiwary, Pujara other than Kohli?? Are we really trying the right mix?? Are we really giving chance to youngsters to groom up?? Except Kohli and Ashwin who else made the final 11?? Just carried them like baggage.

  • WeirPicki on January 29, 2012, 22:21 GMT

    What a dreadful performance by a dreadful, spineless team. I guess when your country is obsessed with 20/20 clown cricket this is all you get. Woe is India, they'll play better at home but be awful away for a decade or more. Surely it's time the vastly over-rated Tendulkar retires before he embarrasses himself.

  • on January 29, 2012, 22:16 GMT

    Shed denial and have an Argus style review? Kapil Dev has a better chance at making a comeback in the next test than for the BCCI to do that. What's wrong with India? Consider these comments; Gambhir openly admitted that he hates bouncy green decks, Ashwin thinks that there is nothing to be embarrassed about despite being hammered 4-0 and N Srinivasan thinks that the solution to doing better overseas is to just beat them on Indian decks. If someone senior as him can come up with a response as moronic as that then how do you think a tour review is going to go down?

  • IAS2009 on January 29, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    i agree with one of the post regarding Indian captain, i think Ganguly was the captain who made Indian player they could beat any team, cone of captain India had has that attitude. Right now the players are bigger than team, most of them are playing for records it looks like, The example is Michael Clarke for Aussie team, when Clrake could have easily score 400 but chose to declare innings for winning a test match. India need that attitude in their future captain.

  • bingohaley on January 29, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    Just something to ponder: The population of Oz is a bit more than the total metropolitan area population of Mumbai........

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 29, 2012, 21:38 GMT

    (contd) These 'rock stars' are over fed, over paid etc and SPOILED by US, the Indian people. If we can sit back and take it easy just like other countries then perhaps these guys would perform wholeheartedly. It's time the Indian people are heard not just in politics from a democratic perspective BUT also in sports. Look at the Argus report of Australia. Ultimately the Australian people were asked their opinion as to how to go on about bringing in fundamental changes to the national cricket team. Why can't the same be done in India ? this is a valid question that the BCCI should answer. They need to be more transparent. This is not just about winning and losing, it's about national PRIDE and integrity. As Indians we can understand that winning or losing is part of sport BUT the manner in which you lose is important as to invoke feelings of hope or hopelessness. Sadly, the latter is what every Indian is feeling now. It's time for CHANGE, the people deserve BETTER from those responsible

  • Cpt.Meanster on January 29, 2012, 21:33 GMT

    Indian cricket has ALWAYS lacked the BALLS to do things right. This has a lot to do with the way of life Indians lead. Indians as a people are very compromising in every aspect of life. They are easily satisfied with mediocrity in their society. Whether it's the central/state governments, or the public transport system, the local municipal governments or the education system etc., Indians don't care HOW the system functions as long as they get what they vote/pay for. That to me has been an obnoxious feature of India since independence. Indians generally NEVER strive to achieve excellence beyond a certain yardstick. Take our sporting culture for example, India NEVER features in the top 10 in any Olympics. Out of a billion people, only 1 or 2 athletes win medals in any sport. Only 2 sports are actively watched by Indians: cricket and hockey with the later suffering from lack of financial out pour and neglect. Even cricket is now under a serious threat due to over hyped players. (contd)

  • on January 29, 2012, 20:51 GMT

    Fast bowlers make good captains: Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, Wasim Akram, etc. They are aggressive and attacking. So Zaheer might be good one. Everyone should realize that age affects reflexes and therefore their ability against fast bowlers. So time to bring in the new players.

  • Digimont on January 29, 2012, 20:22 GMT

    As an Australian, I really don't know much about the depth of Indian longer format cricket. I can only assume from the bunch of geriatrics sent to Australia that there is no depth whatsoever. India, for the sake of world cricket, get serious. I can see only 3 players worthy of being kept (Yadav - shows promise, Saha, similar, Kohli - the only class act in the side). Apologies to Zaheer, but only for his bowling, he is a liability in the field and with a bat in his hands. He's too old though to build a new attack around so has to go as well. None of the big 4 (6 if you include Gambhir and Dhoni) deserve a home farewell, they have all severely dented their past reputations and are now average players with the exception of Tendulkar, who is now merely good. Ishant has a career in Indian soap - he has the angry gaze into the camera already mastered. Worst touring side to visit Australia in my lifetime, including Brearley's rabbits in 70's - at least their bowling was test standard.

  • JoseBautista on January 29, 2012, 20:19 GMT

    we r missing yuvi! hopefully he comes back soon! and dravid is still pretty reliable in teaching these youngsters on how to play!

  • Hermes55 on January 29, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    This debacle had to happen. Pity the Indian selectors! England similarly chose both aging stars Gooch & Gatting for the disastrous Ashes 1994-95 tour that ended their test careers.

    If they had changed the great Indian middle order before this series, every loss would have been followed by variations of this comment from outraged Indian fans: 'The selectors panicked after one bad series. If only VVS (or RD/ST/VS) had been there, he would have shown the rest what guts (or technique/perseverence) was'. It is also true that the Indian batting stars seem to have aged overnight. Sadly, even legends lose their hand-eye coordination at some point.

    Now Indian selectors have the uneviable task of replacing these wonderful players with fairly decent batsmen (bane of selectors when great players leave in batches). Gradual replacement allowing new batsmen to settle in would have been ideal but they may not have that luxury now. Obviously, they should ensure a gradual turnover in future.

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:56 GMT

    Head of BCCI, Duncan Fletcher, MS Dhoni should resign. After-all they are responsible for the debacle. Show some moral courage, admit the deficiencies and resign. We can not stand your lack of skills to manage Indian Team.

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:27 GMT

    Aren't we missing Gary Kirsten ?? He was the architect of Indian wins in the past ..

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:26 GMT

    Dhoni would still remain my captain if he shows interest in playing test cricket. Let's not forget he was the captain of the team when we won world cup and under his leadership we went from number 5 to number 1 to ICC ranking. I agree he hasn't been imaginative, but his team is terribly out of form in both batting and bowling. We need a world class spinner who can take wickets in the lunch and tea session. Ashwin is no good - he simply doesn't have the skills , but it would be difficult to replace him. They shouldn't drop Ojha as he was never given a chance to perform in Australia. Based on performance only they should drop Laxman, Gambhir and Sehwag and change the bowling coach. Dravid should be given one more chance because he is so hardworking and did well against England.

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:19 GMT

    @nickydude - That's because India has never won a series against Australia and these seniors have always lost series against the Aussies. They haven't been able to draw a series there. Winning in Australia would have given them immense satisfaction.

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    After seeing the debacle of Indian Cricketers and ascendancy of Pakistan, I am certain that BCCI will allow Pakistan Cricketers in IPL.

  • Siddharth_zenox on January 29, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    Now... THAT is what i call a perfect article !!!! the last line summed up everythin. Siddharth Monga you have given a gem and a possible target point for those wandering minds who are still to be waken up from their cloudy investigation of where we have gone wrong....

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:02 GMT

    This will continue forever unless true cricket lovers in BCCI & selection panel. 54 days non stop commercial cricket will totally damage indian cricket but fill this greedy cricketers pocket. Find 11 good fielders for the team first then start to play international cricket

    I have a question. How many of these cricket fan will reject IPL?

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    As rightly expressed by our co-readers, one of the main reasons for the poor performance of our cricketers in England and Australia, is the lot of 20-20 matches conducted by IPL that too paying very high unimaginable amount to all the players for just spending 3 hours for a match without any stress and IPL matches oblige cricketers not to stress oneself. I doubt anywhere outside India whether any cricketer gets this much huge money that is paid in IPL matches. The reported talk of our Captain's intention of retirement before the next World Cup is not necessaryThe dangerous effect on our cricketers mind that they cannot perform well on speed-tracks should be erased or changed and the Coach should play a vital roll in doing so. Will he?.

  • Smithie on January 29, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    Inspite of having the protection of no DRS in both England and Australia both SRT and Laxman have failed to produce the goods. Isn't it time now, Mr Srinivasan, to join with coach Fletcher (the man behind the original development of DRS ) and work constructively on the ICC Board to get DRS fully implemented under the control of the ICC Elite Umpiring Panel. Such a gesture would improve your VERY dented international image - considerably. And it certainly needs much improvement Sir !

  • No_BS on January 29, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    Very well written indeed! Sums up everything pretty well!

  • yorkshire-86 on January 29, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    Instead of wanting to bring in loads of 18-22 year old twenty twenty sloggers, where are all the 27-32 year old (the prime years for most cricketers) experienced batsmen? The coach HAS to exert his power and demand that DRS is used in EVERY game. Pakistan vs England (and Swann over the last few years) has proved in the modern game that the best way to spin teams out is with the assistance of the DRS, and spinners have always been a strength in India.

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    Being a Pakistani.....I think Indian media are overreacting....come on man sachine is a great player. He is passing through a bad period. But really its time to take retirement from rahul and vvs.

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:38 GMT

    very good article. senior or junior a player who is not performing should not be selected based on reputation alone especially in dead rubber.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 29, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    The solution is simple - DROP the non-performers. That includes - VIRU, GAUTI, DRAVID, TENDULKAR, LAXMAN and ISHANT. The Big 3 are on the wrong side of 35. They are only going to get worse, not better. They should be advised to play GOLF. Play the Youngsters like - RAHANE, ROHIT SHARMA, PUJARA, TIWARY, ASHOK DINDA, ABU NECHIM AHMED, IRFAN PATHAN, TP SUDHINDRA

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:30 GMT

    First of all our cricketers must learn to respect the opponents.They have better record than us in all forms of the game.Gambir's comment about the pitch was prepared to suit Australian bowling was foolish and not acceptable.Before 1992 how many test matches we won in India,after that we all knew the results.we were winning almost all the series played in India how was that possible?.Our pitches were prepared to suit our spinners,tha's how Kumble took 10wks,a spinner who could not even turn the ball.If the West Indies were to prepare their pitches to suit their fast bowling then no team could play them.Remember what happend to Srikkanth in 1989 against Ian Bishop.

  • King_Viv on January 29, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    Time to be harsh and cull some of the fat. The India team for the next test series should be; Rahane, Gambhir, Kohli, Tendulkar, Sehwag (c), Raina, Saha (wk), P Kumar, Ohja, Zaheer, Yadav. Being whitewashed once cost Flintoff his captaincy and Fletcher his coaching role, twice should spell the end of the blessed one (only in tests as he is fantastic in ODIs) and Fletcher. Sehwag will score well in home tests and perhaps over time if Kohli matures, he can be installed as the long term captain. Gambhir should be put on notice as Mukund and Pujara are waiting on the bench. Dravid and VVS - thanks for the wonderful memories. I will be telling my grandkids with utmost fondness about Kolkata, Adelaide, Headingley and Durban but time to graciously move upstairs into the commentary box where Manjrekar and most of all, Siva need to be replaced

  • Sanj747 on January 29, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    Nice piece but let's be realistic. Indian cricket lacks the will power to be strong on the field. The culture is all about individuals and this is reflected in all parts both with administrators and the players. India unfortunately in all reality will never be a power house. Series wins have eluded them in SL, SAF and Aus. A culture that lacks the need to hard yards to be at the top. A system that will never allow it to happen.

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    being a PAKISTANI, i don't want to comment on this but as ASIAN i have to. india needs a strong captain like ganguly aka dada (i always think he was born on the wrong side of border). for me last 10 years success story of Indian cricket just because of him. he is the one who made the whole indian team. he is one who take out the old horses out & put young guns in the team.he is the one who made the formidable middle order. Ganguly was a true captain who got the guts to do things his way. he picks a guys & backs them till the very end like yuvraj, harbhajan, zaheer, irfan and many more. since Ganguly has gone who his permanent no. 6 batsman in indian test team, nobody knows. Dhoni was always a lucky captain i never seen his captaincy imaginative, he was just winning matches by sheer luck.In the end a very sincere thanks from the whole PAKISTAN to indian board for not allowing PAKISTANI players in the IPL. please make sure they never play IPL

  • nickydude on January 29, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    It is amusing that we always hear of being Australia as the final frontier for the big 4. No one, nor the big 4 ever spoke regd SL, where we'vnt been able to win a test series since 1993, since SL became competitive enough!

  • crikbuff on January 29, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    Very nice read. However, the problems with Indian cricket cannot be summarised in one article. Indian cricket needs an honest independent Argus-like review! The review should look at all aspects of Indian cricket - BCCI and its functioning, domestic cricket, players attitudes, etc. Most importantly, no analysis of Indian cricket is complete without an assessment of the IPL impact! But first, Indian cricket needs to accept that it has hit rock bottom!

  • SachinRao on January 29, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    My suggestions: Coaching staff: In the absence of visible technical help we need a overhaul like Sri Lanka. Get a seasoned international coach and have an seasoned Indian like Pravin Amre as the assistant. Get an experienced bowling coach. Captain: My vote is for Virat Kohli in Tests. Batting: Put up a camp on a special fast and bouncy wicket and rank turner. Check the technique and temperament of players. Apart from Pujara, Rohit and Rahane, get domestic performers a chance. Focus on openers. Bowlers: Get fast bowlers like Nechim (he proved me right by his recent performance) and Dinda in the team. Check other performers like RR Singh. Drop Ishant,Mithun and Vinay Kumar. Focus on big turning spinners. The camp should lay the foundation for the future.

  • VEXXZ on January 29, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    If Dravid or Ponting were members of the West Indies cricket team , the politics of WI cricket would have had them dropped from the squad . VEXXZ.

  • kitten on January 29, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    Very well written article, and absolutely true, every word of it. It is time for some ruthless measures. Firstly, legends or not, Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman, should be given fond farewells in a ODI or charity match! Secondly, I agree, that Dhoni should be relieved of the captaincy in Tests(he is the best in ODIs and 20/20s), and handed over to Gautam Gambir or Kohli. Pujara, Rohit Sharma, Rahane, and a few others drafted into the test team. Let's face it, we can't fare any worse than we have already done. But the plus side will be that the youngsters will gain experience and will certainly perform better in the future. They will also be better in the field, and also running between the wickets. Let there be no more sentiment regarding treating the oldies with respect regarding their past glories. Jettison them immediately, and also caution Sehwag about his batting, before we become the biggest laughing stock of the world. Time to wake up guys!

  • on January 29, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    OOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry really sry poor Indian Cricket team. All I am thinking if Indian cricket team should ever go to England or Australia to play against them???? Its a good idea to stay home and play against them thats how we might enjoy the game a bit.

  • on January 29, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    For lack of enough new good candidates to recruit, the IITs and IIMs, had a few years ago, extended their professors' retirement age from 60 to 62. Has the BCCI extended the retirement age of its cricketers from 35 to 45? Why don't the BCCI give them permanent tenure? And, India's head coach should be at least 100 years old. We are obsessed with centuries, NO? Bowling coach, should have certified cataract in both eyes. Fielding coach should need help to walk. Osteoporosis will be an additional qualification. And, BCCI should upgrade the technology to show its various bank balances, including the total, to be telecast alive all over the world, with minute-to-minute updates, under the title "Money is Power". And, everyone can live happily ever after. End of the dream story. Does anyone from BCCI or its selectors, ever read any of the feedback from the Indian cricket fans. No. Noway. They have far better things to do. Don't say, it's funny. NO. It just hurts.

  • on January 29, 2012, 17:28 GMT

    I received a lot of harsh remarks when I posted "World Champions of Indian wickets" after India - England series played in India. India has to come out of their self denial. Ganguly brought in the fighting spirit; which was carried a little longer by Dhoni. Indian team seems to be good old indian team!!!!

  • on January 29, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    Did the world cup win exhaust or sate them? Yes,it did sate them to an extent that there was no hunger left, even in the face of famine, where they should have had a voracious appetite for more. It was all there, the oppurtunties, the arena, the abundance of food for excelling and stamping the supremacy. Now, they have sunk deep, pounded by those who showed hunger, the appetite, they have been gobbled up with lot of relish,turning them into shit down their guts, to be expelled, stinking and rotting. Disgusting India,being an avid cricket fan and more so of team India, it boils my guts.

  • mensan on January 29, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    Two 4-nil whitewashes in consecutive away series, certainly it can only be a board like BCCI who hasn't shown any reaction. About role of Duncan Fletcher, when you make players gods, no coach has courage to demote gods.

  • netcricketfan4ever on January 29, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    Well, I thought losing 4-0 would be the best thing to happen to this overrated Indian team. But I am afraid, nothing is going to change. BCCI head says England, NZ will lose when they play in India, Gambhir wants rank turners, Sehwag points to the 2-0 win, Kohli and Ishant Sharma predict that Aussies will have a tough time in India when they tour, Ashwin says the team is not embarassed, Fletcher feels lady luck has deserted him, Dhoni has no clue on how to captain in Tests. One good thing is that none of the aging seniors have opened their mouth to give any excuses (at least I haven't read them say any) because they know this is beyond humiliating. I can't understand all this fuss of wanting the big three to retire, can't the selection committee just drop them or don't they have the guts to do that? Happy for Aussies, though they still have quite a few problems which have been largely unexposed by this mediocre Indian team.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 29, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    Sack Duncan and drop Dhoni - two undeserving members (baggages) of Indian Squad. One comes from a minnow team and the other has nothing in him to play proper cricket.

  • mensan on January 29, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    @Sonny Nijral... trip of Pakistan? strange? until yesterday no one from india was willing to hear about playing Pakistan... Anyway I loved the details in this article. Well written!

  • praveenchopra on January 29, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    everybody knows its difficult to we indians to play in pacy and bouncy wickets when bowlers bowl at you +140 kmh,so we can not blame indian batsmen,when aussies come to india we can beat them,so no need drastic changes,we can continue and give them more time to come back to form,we just need to be more patient

  • Afta on January 29, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    One problem with India is that, they refuse to admit their faults, and when they are exposed, everybody is at each others throats. Too much T20 (IPL) has ruined any interest or preparation for Tests. This is very serious. If money is of primary importance for the BCCI, then don't blame the players. Having said all that, I think the selectors should have phased out aging players including Tendulkar. It may not sound right for many an Indian, but that's the plain truth. India has an exceptional talent in the form of Virat Kohli in all three versions of the game. In my opinion if Masur Ali Khan Pataudi could captain at the age of 21 why not Kohli. India needn't look back for the next 10 years. Its time that bold decisions are made.

  • on January 29, 2012, 17:06 GMT

    All said in media. The only question is why Jimmy in selection committe can't do what is said when he was not in it? Experts like Mongia, Saba Karim, Madan lal, Bedi etc can only criticise in media. Why they are not helping the Indian team? Its ego and politics. The BCCI members either did not play cricket at any level or played few so they don't know abt International matches or changing time. Yes, we need new to graduate but at the expense of old. But when will the old give way? 15yrs of Int'l cricket is enough. Give others also chance. India's population is Bn. We will get quality players. We need fresh and young blood. Also, we need separate team for Tests. ODI and T20 can be handled by Dhoni but not Tests. We also need the rotational policy. BCCI should try to make policies where each player should fight for their place in the team not be there because of some old records.

  • on January 29, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    @ Sonny Nijral, You are absolutely right. Get their Adrenaline up. There doesn't seem to be any juice left in the senior batsmen, senior bowlers, and the senior coaching staff. A few with some juice left like Gambhir & Ishant are repeating the same mistakes, again and again. For captaincy, I don't see anyone else other than Kohli with the required spunk. No one, repeat NO ONE, who is likely to tour in future should play ANY domestic internationals, henceforth. It should just be a long boot-camp cricket in India, with young legs, and active brains, till the next oversees tour. And, see the results.

  • MENDIS_Forever on January 29, 2012, 16:52 GMT

    Mr.Siddharth Mango..sorry..Monga, Don't discourage your team Do encourage them.That's what they want at the moment.

  • serious-am-i on January 29, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    spot on. This team is in denial and showing all sorts of excuses possible when they could honestly confess - sorry guys we were not well prepared and we were not hungry for a win. India must not only get rid of the Big3 but also Zaheer. Ashwin must be reprimanded to improve his fielding else keep him out of the squad, we can't afford to have many more Laxman's on field. I honestly that a set of talented individuals are allowed to play in England, Australia and South Africa when ever the domestic circuit has gap in them. In the ODI's I am fearing for a worse performance similar to 99-00 CAB series. Raina will get out to short ball in each of the matches.

  • nitoy on January 29, 2012, 16:41 GMT

    This is the ashes for Indian Test Cricket - one more year of this and Test status must be REVOKED. We other nations such as Ireland, USA, etc. must be given fair shot at test status!

  • on January 29, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    every team has a bad time. now its on india. they will come back. you guys no need to be panic.

  • playitstraight on January 29, 2012, 16:27 GMT

    Well since India are playing at home for the next 2 years, they can rebuild and hopefully bounce back. I don't know what the BCCI are doing, last year we faced West Indies at WI and then few months later, we faced the same team in India. In 2010, we faced New Zealand at home and now in August, we will again face them at home. What is the point of these useless matches with weak teams? We have to play cricket against the top 4 or 5, not the 8th or 9th rankings. The only positive is that batsmen and bowlers will "regain" their form and play well. I think we should play England, South Africa, Australia, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan (hopefully) at home so we can also prove to be strong at home.

  • cantwaittosee on January 29, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    Very well written article.'They are complaining of grass on pitches that have actually been pretty fair, and ignoring completely that most of their recent wins away from the subcontinent have come in more-than-friendly bowling conditions.' That is a very intelligent statement. I agree that bowling is a bigger problem and we lost in Oz more because of our bowling than batting. Fix the pitches in India. Produce good, fast, supporting tracks for domestic cricket so that we can produce bowlers who can take 20 wickets in tests. But I guess the bigger problem is that BCCI just wants to fucus on Tests and international cricket where the money is. Nobody wants to put in the hard work at domestic level for less money.

  • homerr on January 29, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    india not replacing the so called big 3, just because they dont have the talented players to replace them...india simply is a country dried out of talent..

  • csowmi7 on January 29, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    @jibran Khan. Whoa whoa lets think things through first. Yes at the moment india are deplorable in test cricket but that doesnt mean that this is a minnow team. We are talking of a team that has been number 1 in test cricket for over almost years. Only the Australian and west Indies cricket team has held the title longer. Lets see Pakistan come in the top 3 anytime in the future and then we'll see

  • on January 29, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    Good article. But I doubt anything will change because even the selectors are in denial and arrogant. I won't be surprised if the same team is picked up again. By the time India plays their next test, their rating is likely to go down to 5 or below. The players may have been great in the past but there is a factor called age. A slow reaction of even one second to the fast bowlers means getting out. Just look at the way Dravid getting bowled some 6 times. Even in the home series against a very weak WI, the Indian team was not dominating. WI scored 590 in one of the innings and 463 in another and had scored more than India in couple of innings. So it is not home conditions vs foreign conditions. India was already down when it played WI but everybody denied/ignored it and blamed it on the absense of Tendulkar, Dhoni and Zaheer. But how long will India depend on them? A good team does not rely on only one or two players. Every team loses their key players some time or other.

  • shrastogi on January 29, 2012, 16:07 GMT

    Continuing to my earlier comment - There is nothing wrong in saying that one feels that an opposition batsmen is turning round the corner in short time. If Rahul Dravid had watched Ponting in the seires against SL, SA & NZ and felt that he is going to score big anytime soon his first duty should have been to state this in the team meeting much before the start of tour and if he had any tips on getting Ponting out he should have spelt that out or should have requested team to work that out based on Ponting's weakness. So this hurts as Dravid is a serious professional player. Now to coach - I dont think Fletcher has done his duty well. I dont know the circumstances but he has been let off by England and then accepted by India which never happen with any of the previous foreign coaches of India. His performance should also be reviewed. I dont think we can blame selectors. They picked up best possible team but in tour selection they should have intervened as team was not doing well.

  • cricketsage on January 29, 2012, 15:59 GMT

    Well said, Siddarth. "Accepting flaws is the first step towards correcting them. This is also tantamount to admitting that the selectors made a mistake by going on reputation rather than form, at least for the top four batsmen. Admitting mistake means losing face and that is difficult in sub-continent culture. It is easier to make all sorts of excuses and wait for the next series against a much weaker opposition on home grounds and claim that overseas tour was an aberration.

    I felt that some players, although in form, were hopelessly unfit e.g. Zaheer Khan. Wonderful bowler though he is, he appeared to be lumbering in to bowl and escorting the ball when fielding. He appears at least 10kg overweight. Remember his paunch on UK tour ? He has lost some weight since but not much. Point about being unfit also applies to the elder batsmen, everyone knows their names.

    Lastly, Sachin... For all his wonderful record, he has not helped Indian team when it really needed him. Sad but true.

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    Has there been an instance in the history of Indian cricket a player has come out and said "I am not good any more. I will hang up". No instance. Even Kapil Dev did not. He took ages to get past Hadlee.Gavaskar for his 10000th. Individual records matter here. Not the team. If India were to be good at home they should have handed a 3-0 to West Indies and they won't even for a Bangladesh side. First and foremost just define the players fitness. Make sure a player does not exceed a BMI > 21. Look at Ashwin. His body looks like one of the aged Indian Air Hostess. Based on the current fitness this Indian team will not even make to a Womens baseball team in USA. Srikanth keeps telling to the media, players automatically select themselves based on their performances. If that be the case excepting Virat everyone in top 7 should be dropped. Let us see if Srikanth has the guts to pick a side without them.

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    please please stop making these kind of pitches to batsman allow 200 hundred in one day these kind of pitches we can called bowlers grave yard . then how you find good bowlers ?

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    When the selctors select Vinay Kumar ahead of Irfan Pathan- agood soldi allrounder, it tells you the whole story about the Indian cricket mindset!

  • MiddleStump on January 29, 2012, 15:50 GMT

    A well thought out article that covers most aspects and which does not blindly blame 'aging seniors' for all the team ills. I would only add that in the future the BCCI MUST talk to every player before announcing the team. It is downright insulting to the paying public and fans world over to witness what happened the past month even while the series was in progress. The team captain publicly declaring his doubts about playing more test cricket, the vice captain expressing a desire to bat in the middle order and his opening partner wanting to bat on turning pitches at home were clear indications that at least some players had no interest in the ongoing series. This is simply not fair to the concerned players or to the fans. The BCCI cannot compel players to play test cricket if they do not wish to do so, or force them to play out of position. By the same token once players have been selected with their consent, they must give their very best until the end. They owe it to the nation.

  • buntyj on January 29, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    yes indian board, selectors, players should shed denial but unlikely; maybe fletcher n vvs will be the fall guys n viru in as captain; can things change- only if india lose at home next season; so we havent quite reached rock bottom yet. hence, the denials;

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    Hasnain, M Clarke is the not the only one, great Afridi has also done the same by refusing to play in Bangladesh... This is example of great players which I am sure Indian team has none as of now .....

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    It is very sad for India Team to lose 4-0 against Australia. Now BCCI has to answer about this losing series. And they have to take decision show end roads to Sachin/Dravid/Laxman because without them if we lose against low rated teams, Then we will think that it is just begin of future teams. I don't know when Pujara, Rohit, Raina, Yuvraj, other yougsters will get chance in Indian team. Secondly BCCI has to prepare fast track pitch in India to promote fast bowlers. It is also sad that India (Population 125 crore) cannot produce a single consistant fast bowler like Waqar, Wasim, Shoaib Akhtar. It is also necessary to stop players to take part in Bollywood.

  • explorer18 on January 29, 2012, 15:32 GMT

    Very well said, Sid. FIRST: Attach monetary penalties for every test match lost. Show that India takes this loss seriously. If the board or players stood up and took responsibility, most fans wouldn't be so frustrated. Some quick changes that should made to demonstr. Sack: 1. Coaching staff - they haven't produced a single positive moment 2. Test Captain - he does not know how to change tactics in adverse conditions, and it cost us a lot. 3. Some suggestions: Make Gambhir Captain, Kohli still has to grow up. 1.Test W/K can be based on merit: MSD, Karthik, Parthiv.... 2. DHONI captains the ODI's 3. Make Saurav, Dravid and Laxman part of Selection/Coaching staff. 4. Offer Pujara/Rohit/Rehane/Ojha/Yadav/Kumar contracts to focus on tests. 5. Be graceful about phasing out the old.

  • black_mask2685 on January 29, 2012, 15:31 GMT

    INDIA AT ITS BEST...........They can only win series on the home grounds and their crowd. They complain when lost and put blame on pitches, grounds or the umpires. Don't worry now to put all behind BCCI will host all future series at home grounds and invite Banagladesh and Zimbawe to light up the team once again. Sidharth Monga got it right "They are complaining of grass on pitches that have actually been pretty fair, and ignoring completely that most of their recent wins away from the subcontinent have come in more-than-friendly bowling conditions".

  • itsthewayuplay on January 29, 2012, 15:17 GMT

    Flower's and Strauss' assessment of England's weakness against high quality spin was refreshing and honest. Unlike the India's way of dealing with the disastrous and humiliating tours and England and now Australia when all we hear is 'the batting didn't click'. The only way I see the batting is going to click is to arrange home series against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and with no DRS in India, bowlers with the help of the umpires may be able to get 20 wickets in more than one test in a series. Ashwin took 9 wickets at an average of almost 63 and a SR of 112 felt the bowl came out of his hand 'really well'?! That's a wicket every 18 overs for India's first choice spinner. Mishra or Chawla must surely now come back into the reckoning.

  • Siva-The-Human on January 29, 2012, 15:17 GMT

    @Jibran Khan! are you happy?

  • akon1986 on January 29, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    ICC should cancel Indians test license

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:12 GMT

    what needs to be changed is simple.. 1) make someone like Virat Kohli captain. groom him on Indian soil while the elders are phased out. 2)Give him guys under him who are willing to be as ruthless and loyal. 3) Get the new team to demoralize the visiting teams..showing them what it is to play in india.. 3) Then let him go abroad as a young and ruthless captain. A Pak trip would be ideal to get the juices flowing.. anywhere Dubai, sharjah Bangladesh..

  • songbird69 on January 29, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    I can't remember the last time I read such a well-written article mr.Monga ! Maybe I feel that way because it absolutely mirrored all that I've been feeling for a while after having watched Indian cricket closely & passionately. I believe strongly , like you've mentioned, that the world cup win has drained them of the fight we used to see previously. But I say the cricket experts know their job better than us & we should assess the team over a year & be a little more patient before we write them off.

  • shrastogi on January 29, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    Continuing to my earlier comment - The seniors were living in their glory days and hence there was a lot of baggage when they couldnt deliver as there was no fear of failure. The team needed fresh players desperately, as they have no baggage and want to cement their place in side, by resting a senior or two. There were no plans for Australian players and I dont think any senior came up with effective tips for opposition in the team meeting as one of the senior was quoted as backing Ponting to score runs. I'm sure they must be following Australian team in their spare time as they had to tour Australia. The one day team has fresh legs and no baggage players but it would be a good idea to play only 2 out of Gambhir, Tendulkar & Sehwag for starters and see how young fresh legs are performing.

  • Bang_La on January 29, 2012, 15:02 GMT

    @Rakesh Vohra, I don't agree with your suggestiosn rather re-suggest, 1.make India play only on their own soil, 2. In case India need to play outside India, they should play against Namibia (watch out, they also have two fast bowlers who play in counties), Malaysia, Argentina, Uganda. 3. ICC aka BCCI should declare ever #1 team in the ranking despite all dry-cleaning.

  • on January 29, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    very nicely written.. truth is truth..

  • JPSMatharu on January 29, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    Seems like Australians paid Indian Cricket team to lose this eries. Also, waht happened to Ishant Sharma, he was good when he played first time for India against Australia. And this time he could'nt even get wickets. If he got, then it was 1 or 2. May be he needs some rest and lots of practice, as he bowls in the same line, which a kid can play after a while too. Change the team, its the time now. Retirement for Dravid and Laxman. Realy a disappointed series. I am sure Indians took money from Ausies. BCCI should find it out.Otherwise its the beginning of end for Indian Cricket

  • Bang_La on January 29, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    India who? Whats this all about?

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:49 GMT

    This Indian team has been out-played and out-classed by a far superior squad. The transitional phase in Australia cricket appears to be over and the old tiger is on the rise again.

    With the current team, India could still enjoy success against weaker teams like the West Indies, Bangladesh, and Kenya. But the better teams like RSA, SL and England will show them up.

    Changes are inevitable. Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag and Sachin will be gone before this year is out. Hopefully, Sachin gets that elusive ton before he calls Time on his illustrious career.

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    im a ardent indian, feels embarrased when no one from indian team feels they did disservice to their national pride. its a shame we keep on harping odi record when it is clearly known test matches have improved a lot in quality and increaded viwership as team india did good, now they nose dived, plus have reaction we are mature people if failure is to continue without any remorse then we will lose country pride, its just like soldiers who take care of our borders.i have been emotional, could not enjoy life last 1 month, becoz never saw any indian team lose like this, they dont even last till 4 th day. please some sense prevail, govt please help in removing this non performers, sehwag, dhoni, st,vvs,rd. i saw gambhir giving fight though he is handicapped i keep him,kohli loves country keep him,others need to pack may r.d deserves one more chance as till last series he was one man army.

  • Sidura on January 29, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    @blackerthanyourhate......India should start playing home series against Bangladesh to prove your point. 5 match series would do.

  • zain.ul.abideen on January 29, 2012, 14:45 GMT

    Wow this is harsh. It seems that the critics of indian team and their wellwhishers are getting harsher and louder and louder whereas the indian team is becoming more n more stubborn in thier denial and refusal to accept the degree of their failure. For me the reason for this failure is only one and that is, these players have reached the pinnacle of their careers in winning the world cup and reaching no.1 ranking and their pockets are full with IPL dollars and endorsements. Looks like they have nothing to fight for....

  • mukund.i on January 29, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    I guess it was harbhajan who was injured/dropped in this case/series; that caused the debacle that we just witnessed :)

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    Why worry when the IPL comes around the Indian players will hit every ball for six and the media will change its story. The players will be paid humungous sums and will be described as the best players in the world. Bring on the IPL. What they don't realize is that Test cricket is the ultimate TEST.

  • aarifboy on January 29, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    Laxman can stay but time for Sachin and Dravid to go from tests,they are too old to play 5 days continously.

  • ElvisKing on January 29, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    The management kept on playing the players who failed not once nor twice or thrice but umpteenth time and still kept on picking them, as if these players were bonded laborers and they had to play whether they delivered or not and as if there was no other option available. If changes had been carried out and if the new players failed to come good, the management could have reverted back to the old guard. As I had written earlier, of course I am a nobody, Sehwag was not the captaincy material and he proved me right, there was nothing new that he tried to bring into the Adelaide Test match, neither players nor any change in tactics, except he used Ashwin to open the bowling in the second innings and after a couple of overs in the first. How come our fast bowlers do not know where the good length spot is and bwhich is the best stump line they should bowl to? Every time they got carried away and bowled short and got hammered. Where was bowling discipline ? Is the bowling coach worth?

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    Mr. Rakeshes solution is the best in the current scenario...

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    To start correcting mistakes, you firstly should realize that there is a mistake. India can not afford to live in the state of denial.

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    MR Gerry_the_Merry not Sri lanka and Zimbabwe just Zimbabwe :) . watch out for tri nation series ahead.

  • shrastogi on January 29, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    Well written. Monga has tried to highlight right issues. I think best way to sum up India's performance is that they were out planned. Micky Arthur/ McDermott clearly were better than Fletcher/ Simons hence making Clarke more effective and Dhoni uninspiring. By the 4th test the side was mentally gone. The best example of which was highlighted by Laxman dismissal in the last innings. Two fielders were placed on midwicket for airy Laxman flick to Lyon and he played that shot to get out as if he hadnt noticed those two fielders. This is palnning. Similarly for Sehwag there were two players at point for cut shot. We didnt do the same for Ponting. There were no changes in batting order and team management just refuse to accept that their seniors are struggling for form and are sorted out hence a need to try out new players. BCCI also needs to send players out of subcontinent at least a month in advance and they need to play more matches against stronger domestic sides.

  • wake_up_india on January 29, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    It is a good thing for India that Test status can be earned but not lost. Bangladesh would have put up a better fight at least in one test. And we keep hearing that deciding when to retire is the "right" of a "great" player. Booting them out when not performing is also the BCCI's right and duty. These so-called greats are not tenured professors in US universities, or Bhishma in Mahabharata, who had the god-given ability to choose his time of dying. The mongrel you refer to is the captain and coach combined. In Ganguly & Wright we had a bloodhound. Here we have poodle.

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    Its gonna be Shameful Series Loss For India...BIG TALKS only..you need to show it..!!Like Pakistan..

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    India Whitewashed 4-0 ? its not a big news or something new for us But what was significant that they got beaten by the team whose captain Micheal Clarke had given up on the offers of The Big Bash and IPL to just play for his team's success and how great was his success ;) Wonder how many Indian players will give up the IPL now ??????

  • sluxman on January 29, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    I think the focus shoud be on the bowling which has performed below par in all the overseas tours, including Zaheer Khan. We talk of dropping Sachin and Dravid. SRT averaged 35,44,34,81 and 31 in the last 5 series including this one. Dravid averaged 25,63,77,50 and 20. And we are after their neck. Ponting, on the other hand averaged 33,17,31,16,56,24 and 23 in the last 7 series. He was not dropped and he came good (though against a club level bowling attack). It only proves that we are short sighted. World cup can be won with part-time bowlers but not tests and it clearly showed. It is pure luck that we became number ones in tests a few months back till England and Australia put us back in place. But we are talking of "tired seniors". What about the "tired" youngsters like Ishant Sharma or Harbajan who win matches once a while but score "centuries" in other matches?

  • praveenchopra on January 29, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    we like the way sehwag play,its very entertaining,no one can play like him,no need to drop anyone,pujara and rohit have to wait atleast another 5 years i am sorry to say

  • expat on January 29, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    Good article, but I think Sidharth has missed the most important thing, in my view. This is overconfidence/complacency leading to a tendency to dismiss or woefully underrate the opposition. This is what lead to Australia's loss of the Ashes in 2005, & I believe, contributed significantly to their recent loss to NZ. The same thing is happening now with the Indians, except they haven't, yet, become angry enough to demolish an opposition in a whitewash as the Australians did in 2006. The Australians were still good enough (at home) to do so, even as the light was fading. Perhaps something similar will happen with India, but the light there is also definitely fading. It then takes quite a while to appreciate the depth of the problem & rebuild properly. Since when do players have the "right" to decide when to retire? archyb

  • on January 29, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    Well done INDIA......You deserve it.............Hahahaha.............

  • Jimmers on January 29, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    Looks to me as an outsider that the seniors need to go (including Sehwag) and let the young ones take responsibility. Kholi looks like a future captain, maybe it's time to give him his head and see what happens, you can't keep losing away like this, it's embarrassing

  • Mann123 on January 29, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    I think Sidharth has hit the nail on its head with this article. Pretty much sums up the situation. When a common man goes to work he gets salary and bonus and performance ratings based on current performances not what he did 3 years back. Hearing Strauss accepting his weakness and the fact that opposition is a better team makes me feel Indians are just an arrogant bunch who just refuse to accept reality.

  • doosra95 on January 29, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    You Sidharta Mongrel how much more rubbish can you write, this team India is the most celebrated FTB,even their overseas victory's are on flat deck .No1 to NO2 but keeps getting battered.

  • stark-truth on January 29, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    It has been a rather prolonged and monumental humiliating disaster for India. What is most striking is the huge margins of defeats and visible lack of grit and fight to show pride in playing for a billion people. It is evident too much is taken for granted by many in the Indian team. Gambhir's awful utterance about the "right" of Laxman to call it quits whenever he deems, is a damning indictment on the arrogant psyches of some of these players - selfish psyches that obviously feel little remorse for the widespread anguish they have caused, and for the pall of gloom that engulfs Indian cricket followers.

  • on January 29, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    Denial? Where did the writer find this word? IPL- that's the word. Time for IPL for the Men in Blue and Team India. Yaar?

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    If vvs laxman and rahul dravid are selected again then india will keep on losing

  • heshan666 on January 29, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    well,it's the reality that can happen when a team do lost their matches regular and then all start to do criticize their team heavily.Thats what exactly happen to SL as well.So IND should get these criticisms as a wish for next matches,not as a scorn.So here is the opportunity to IND and SL to play in AUS and to show their class and they are the best two teams in the world like they did in 2011 WORLD CUP.

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:34 GMT

    mr rakesh who the r u to sack dhoni anpi band karke chup baitho

  • Pritt32 on January 29, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    Indian cricket is going to a very bad patch. I hope the team can salvage pride in the forthcoming one day series. India need to rebuild their test team, by bringing fresh players, dropping Dhoni as captain and dropping a 4/5 players. India team need to keep distractions to a minimal and focus on playing quality cricket which we know they are capable of doing. India's overseas record has always been bad, but can be improved if we prepare pitches that the batmen have problems with. India need to move forward and put the bad patches behind them, but they have learn from them. The team received a barrage of criticims from ex-players, media and fans, as it shows everyone is concerned about them and want them to perform well. I hope India bounce back.

  • Hodra99 on January 29, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    One of the best articles by a cricinfo writer in a long time. Good analysis...will they listen though and accept these glaring deficiencies??? Probably not, it is the BCCI after all....

  • Rawlonski on January 29, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    Solution to Indian problems (mark 2)..... first, Indian supporters need to be realistic with what they expect from their team - so many write like the last 15 years have been an era of domination by India - it wasn't - I am not saying they were a bad team (they deserved the No 1 ranking for that fleeting time), but lets face it, they struggled abroad even when Sachin / Laxman / Dravid.... and Ganguly (????) where at their peak.

    It is too early to get rid of everyone because of a couple of bad games - Sachin has still been one of your best batsman for the past 18 months and I would have hated to see the England tour without Dravid.

    Some changes are required, but most of them seem to be in the attitude of the players.... they just don't seem to care about losing

  • Haleos on January 29, 2012, 12:03 GMT

    @achyuthsun - u forgot to mention the Wall with more holes than a strainer and the great I-need-tailenders to be a saviour VVS.

  • Percy_Fender on January 29, 2012, 12:03 GMT

    Duncan Fletcher it was who actually turned England's cricket. He is a superb analyst of the technical part of a cricketer be it a batsman or a fielder. There is simply no Englishman who has a bad word for him. That despite the hammering England got in the Ashes series following the one the won in 2005.I am not sure why he has so far not got the results with India on overseas tours.Maybe it is better if they changed the bowling coach to someone other than Simmons who we all know is part of the Kirsten legacy.Sometimes things happen inspite of the supporting staff as was the case in the glory years of Dhoni's captaincy.With his family background it was always unlikely that he would confront the seniors no matter how they played. Unlike Saurav Ganguly who came from a different background.Dhoni's greatest asset was that he was lucky. And since he kept winning (or drawing at least) everything,he could remain calm.Worthy of a case study.The BCCI needs to introspet objectively.

  • Abhimanyu on January 29, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    WOW!! what a article this is!! Sidharth Monga, you have hit the nail in the coffin with this article! Sorry, for my earlier comment, posted it without reading this first. Nothing more needs to be said by the readers since you have covered it all in one article. What we need to do now is make sure that all players and the BCCI officials somehow read this masterpiece of yours. This article needs to be published in all the newspapers on a same day across India.

  • ChuckyDoll on January 29, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    What a brilliant piece of writing. When there is chorus between the fans and media, all cannot be wrong. It seems to be fight between BCCI (and its protected players) and the fans. The statments that Dravid, GG, and Sehwag have made over the last few days implies the greet to hang on to power. Neither of them with guarantee that they will fix the problems but they only guarantee their own position in the playing 11. What is even more worrisome is why are these players, whose head is called upon by the media, are protecting Fletcher. Fletcher should be the first one to be fired. He should have been sent home from Australia. BCCI (and its players) are hoping that this storm will pass away and in a few months time, everyone will forget for over. However, this time, the media is doing a perfect job of keeping the wounds fresh. Keep it up! Keep the wounds fresh unti this Shameless bunch is kicked out or retire.

  • on January 29, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    The best way to make a good future indian team.Make a strong indian A team select Sourav Ganguly as Captain select MA Agarwal,Unmukh Chand,Ashok Meneria,Manish Pandey,Sourav Tiwary,Mukund,ShikkarDhavan,B Kumar,Vikas Mishra,B aparajith,Abu Rechim,Rishi dhavan,Pradeep Sangwan,Harshal Pattel,Ikbal Abdulla. Let this team travel to Aus,Eng & SAF.!

  • UdayP on January 29, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    An excellent article and as others have said, how did this get through the continual bias towards Indian cricket recently. Should older players retire? I still play club cricket and I'm over 40 but as time went on, I went from the 1st team to now playing in the 3rds. Tendulkar and Laxman don't need to worry about ever playing in the 3rd team of any club but if they love their country as much as the rest of us, they need to realise it's time to go. As Sidharth said, it's their own decision but the Indian board and selectors should have some guts and help them along.

  • Wefinishthis on January 29, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    India's problem is the same as what Australia had during the ashes... bowling. You simply cannot win tests if you cannot take 20 wickets, regardless of the score. During the ashes, Siddle and Hilfenhaus were short but even worse inaccurate and impatient which cost us but improved dramatically under McDermott although I still think that they are not good enough to win back the ashes. Australia's best 4 would be Pattinson, Cummins, Harris, O'Keefe and I'd still like to see Copeland given another go. I don't know why the Indians never talked about Praveen Kumar who I think is the best Indian bowler I've seen in years. Their other problem is that all of their pitches are the same turning/batting pitches. Indian batsmen rarely get to play in swinging/bouncy conditions at home and therefore are never comfortable away from home.

  • TheBengalTiger on January 29, 2012, 11:30 GMT

    Blakey- If thats the case, why are all the foul mouth australians not bought before match referees? didnt mentuon that did you?. And the drs is flawed. If an Asian team wasnt the one opposing it, every other country would agree too

  • Abhimanyu on January 29, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    Now, give us one good reason why should India select Dravid and Laxman for the next test series at home against a team like New Zealand? We don't need a Dravid and Laxman to win in the subcontinent, we can do that without them easily, there is enough bating talent (Pujara, Badrinath, Manoj Tiwari, Rohit, Rahane) all waiting for an opportunity. Do not forget that Dravid and Laxman were picked in the squad because India wanted to win in England and Australia. Now, since India have failed to do that, there is nothing left that these guys can do for this Indian team. Can't believe, India will be stuck with such selfish players for another couple years since our Indian selectors don't have the guts to drop them (not taking about Tendulkar). Only thing the Indian cricket fans can do now is watch them make runs on flat pitches at home and extend their personal records for the next 2 years.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    rakesh..you too are like selctors..you used the word "LET" sachin get his 100!!! that's your country's prob mate..don't let it..just do it....

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    @Gerry_the_Merry. You can beat ZIM so easily, but not SL. But SL will beat IND,ZIM & BAN. Even we lost ENG 0-1 only in ENG 3 match series, but everyone knows what happen to IND in ENG that is 4 defeats from 4 (clean sweep).

  • Nigels on January 29, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Good Article...Well done..!

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    yes what ismentioned above is correct.but last time when india went to australia players like sachin,dravid,laxman and sehwag got 7 hundreds.but it failed this time.andindian batting was weak as their bowling was awesome except ishant sharma. coming to captaincydhoni had not made any mistake but except one.he kept the field open in the melbourne test that was a point of losing hope.but retirement first cause for the seniors first dravid then sachin and then laxman.when india playanother away game in 2013

  • whitesXI on January 29, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    I really feel for Dravid in this, are people already frogetting his performance in England? I've heard and read calls for him to move down the order and be dropped but he made 500+ runs a couple of months ago against the now no.1 test team. I'd be more concerned with the fact that without Dravid's huge contributions India didn't pass 300 runs all tour.You can't expect him to play two test series in arow like that, especially when the rest of the team doesn't pull its own weight

  • KarachiKid on January 29, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    The worst thing that happened to Indian Test team is IPL. apart from that, the batsmen's frailities against moving and bouncing ball are well documented. Sehwag's and Gambhir's continuous failures are case in point. I think add another year or two when Sehwag's reflexes are down, he will not be able to even bat well on Sub-continental tracks as his technique, just like Yuraj Singh's, relies heavily on hand-eye coordination. Dont take me wrong, I still think he, along with Zaheer Khan, is at the center of India's rise to number 1 spot. But with time, he will subside far quicker than Sachin Tendulkar, VVS Laxman and Rahul Dravid. The longetivity of these three greats depended largely on a very sound technique, unlike Virendar Sehwag.

  • sravanmalle on January 29, 2012, 10:28 GMT

    Oh my god! one really can't understand why Dravid still doesn't want to retire from test cricket. He had done enough in the past in test cricket for India, its time to retire from International cricket now.

    Australia tour is the most forgettable tour towards the end of his career. A best batsman should learn quickly from his mistakes, but dravid didn't as he kept bowled 7 out of 8 times. Dravid deserve to give retirement and give a chance to new generation who can get adjusted once they get to play in a difficult conditions like Australia, England & South Africa.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    "Was it when the previous 4-0 whitewash was not even part of the board's recap of the last year at its awards function?" That says it all. We (BCCI and players) could not care less. Contrast this with what Andrew Strauss did - played as an invite for Somerset county to try to get back into form.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    a very apt article...One of the best articles I've read in cricinfo ..I agree with each and every line Sidharth wrote.........."They used to win no doubt but never as comprehensively as they have lost over their last two series. It was a team skating on thin ice, albeit skating exceptionally well until earlier this year, but the ice has given away now. The rescue squad is of the view it will prepare better ice at home."....cant agree more........choice of words are also exceptional........

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Inda's current opposition are who they should be looking to for guidance in the near future. The way Australia have looked into all their own faults in order to correct them, has seen them turn their fortunes around stunningly. Instead India just seem to want to deny that they failed.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Inda's current opposition are who they should be looking to for guidance in the near future. The way Australia have looked into all their own faults in order to correct them, has seen them turn their fortunes around stunningly. Instead India just seem to want to deny that they failed.

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:11 GMT

    they must win two world cups in a row to replace this loss

  • musingsofamoron on January 29, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    This editor should be part of the selection committee for his cricketing knowledge!!!

  • Sabir_007 on January 29, 2012, 10:01 GMT

    Bad News for Cricket fans - India lost 0-4 to England and then 0-4 to Australia. Good News - Lagaan movie getting telecast on Sony Max today. A win is guaranteed there. Enjoyyyy....

  • bilal11928 on January 29, 2012, 9:57 GMT

    So at that day someone beat the World No 1 (2-0) and someone who claim to be the No 1 lost to (4-0)

  • sharidas on January 29, 2012, 9:52 GMT

    Many years back the South African Board made a brave decision and appointed a young lad as Captain ( Graeme Smith). Of course he had problems with one/or more old warhorses,but went on with his job and have done extremely well. I am in no way suggesting that Dhoni should move away, but rather, it is time that we fostered younger talents and also started using younger captains in other forms of the game so that there is never a vacuum in the system. We can take twenty/20 players into the test team...talent will always prevail -only, the opportunity must be provided.

  • Woodsy71 on January 29, 2012, 9:25 GMT

    Well written sir!! How did you manage to evade the BCCI filter?? Encore !! Encore!!

  • blackerthanyourhate on January 29, 2012, 9:25 GMT

    Accept your mistakes and move ahead team.show everyone what you all are capable off.

  • Naumanmalik on January 29, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    a beautiful written article, haven't read this kind of article for a long time. good job sidharth. indian team need to as sidharth said "Accepting flaws is the first step towards correcting them". India is a very talented team, full of potential, BCCI needs to focus on real cricket then events like ill and icl. Focus, passion and hard work is the key.

  • anah on January 29, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    When the board and the players are getting loads of money there is no need to accept flaws! Quite unfortunate but true

  • achyuthsun on January 29, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    Any reasonable team would have made changes in the 4 th test after we were bullied in the 3 test but no one in this team have guts to take strong decission. We will be now playing most of the matches in Sub continent and these flat track bullies like Sehwag, Gambhir can look to increase their average

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:07 GMT

    Guys....be supportive for those cricketers who served the country for long long time, this is a bad patch which is going on for every Indian cricketers and I am sure they will overcome it very soon. Come on guys, they are same Sachin, Dravid, Laxman who played some terrific innings which we can't forget.

    Think about Ricky Ponting whose bad patch was running for last two years, now he got some runs against India on his own soil. This Australian team was bowled out within 50 runs in South Africa just few months back. So it is cricket guys and please be supportive for our cricketers.

  • Blakey on January 29, 2012, 9:06 GMT

    Very well said. I would like to make 2 comments: Raul Dravid has been absolutely sensational in all of his speaking engagements, humble and inciteful. Contrast this with Sachin; for a man who has acheived so much in this game and is held in such high regard, I was very dissapointed 1. by his reactions to several dismissals and 2. his lack of support for the UDRS. Yes it may have its flaws but I can't help feeling that Sachin's opposition to it is based on his awareness of the favourable decisiopns he has received due to his standing in the game. Unfortunately there weren't any severely bad decisions that went against India on this tour to encourage a change of mind. Sorry, a 3rd thing. If Kohli's language is so obvious to so many, why is he not being briought before the match referees? Well played Australia!

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    Solution to all Indian problems 1.SACK dhoni from TEST matches, and make KOHLI captain,and bring in dinesh Karthik in, Remember when smith was made caption of SA at similar age 2.let DHONI play and captain the ODI's 3.SACK Duncan Fletcher as coach, and make GANGULY and KUMBLE Indian coach 4.make laxman and dravid retire/drop 5.SACK the current selectors, and make DRAVID chief selector, and kind of similar role for LAXMAN in setup 6.keep an eye on sehwag and gambhir,but they are still not that bad 7.bring in pujara/Rohit/Rehane/Mukund in setup 8.Try irfan pathan and Jadeja in TEST matches ,if that worked would be fantastic 9.let SACHIN complete his 100th ton, and then make him to retire 10.Bring back Venk Prasad and Robin Singh in coaching setup

  • Nish8738 on January 29, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    Don't understand why everyone is putting a gun to dhoni's head. It's not his fault 6 batsmen can't score 4 bowlers can't take wickets. He is a wicketkeeper hes doing his job all right. You can't question his captaincy. India has always been bad abroad even in ganguly's erra. Let's back our team up for the ODI series. Last thing they need is their own country to wish bad for them. LETS GO WORLD CHAMPS time to show where you come from.

  • Cool_Jeeves on January 29, 2012, 8:48 GMT

    We will defeat Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe. Tendulkar will get his century.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 29, 2012, 8:43 GMT

    Bye bye 10dulkar, Dravid and Laxman. Its about time the Indian selectors strarted to pick teams on merit rather than reputation. Time to clear out the cupboard and build from scratch, get more youth involved and get some more decent seamers too.

  • on January 29, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    Simply the best article that i have read till date.....GOOSE BUMS....

  • cricketmaniagola on January 29, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    Diagree with your opinion completely suggesting Laxman should not have played in Adelaide ....the guy in his prime batted with tail enders or under the shadow of sachin, dravid n ganguly...1 bad series...then dravid had one bad year ...he is no less a batsman then sachin or dravid labelled finest of our generations ...nearly 9000 runs at number 6 denotes logevity and consistency ...he shd have kept batting at 3 as in england in home series against WI n also against Australia....Dravid should have moved down to counter the second new ball which is causing damage since India has a long tail...in my opinion Sehwah should be dropped first alongwith Dhoni n Ishant n Zahher too for his stupid batting ...Laxman should captain for one year and Gambhir a vice captain..passing on the baton would be easier....Sachin has lost the moral right to remain in Test team after 8-0 scoreline..Sehwag`s attitude is damaging for future cricketers..

  • on January 29, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    Well said.. Well said... If the Indian team could take anything from this series, it is these:

    1. Its high time Dravid and Laxman retire and they themselves may be of this view. When they leave, BCCI have to be prepared with more than two suitable replacements. They may have Yuvraj in the wings, but its time they invested their time and money in training talented middle-order youngsters like Manoj Tiwary, Rohit Sharma and Cheteshwar Pujara.

    2. Umesh Yadav and Ravichandran Ashwin are two symbols of a prospective tail-order that is capable of bowling well as well as adding formidable runs when the top order collapses. Yadav's figures do not justify the bowling performance he showed while Ashwin has the makings of a great spinner in the lines of Vettori and Swann. And the fact that he is among the top scorers for India in the series speaks of his batting ability.

  • on January 29, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    AUstralia just need to settle down, no one likes an arrogant team. yes you won, good well get over it. wait til south africa comes and plays ya. no one likes to watch a one sided game, boring as.

  • htenneti on January 29, 2012, 8:27 GMT

    Lets be honest to ourselves as the author rightly says. We were much less fitter and much less prepared for this tour. You do not go into a tour of Australia assuming things will work. we did the same mistake during the England tour. I dont think selectors will ask the senior players to make way. Sachin,Dravid, Laxman will have to take this decison on their own. Not because they performed badly in this series, but its time for nurturing a new indian cricket team which will be ready to compete in 18 months time. Indian test team has competed well in the last 6-7 years. The cycle is over. A new beginning needs to be made.

  • on January 29, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    please give youngsters chance.let the old guys say goodbye.

  • alltimegreat on January 29, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    Lovely honest article that BCCI should read for sure. If they still don't get it..I hope Indians fail miserably in ODI series in AUS and show that all is not well with Indian Cricket future!!

  • Advin on January 29, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    While everybody is talking about the failure of the famed Indian batters,it is the bowling that worries me.Zaheer runs out of steam after his first spell,Ishant and Yadav would not get into an Australian state side.Even a second string Aussie attack of Cummins,Pattinson and Starc bowling for India would have made the contest far more even.

    In the batting,atleast India has got Kohli,Rohit and a few others to look forward to.The bowling cupboard is absolutely bare.Unless they learn from the Aussie bowlers about bowling length and line and applying relentless pressure on the opposing batters,there is not much hope for India on overseas wickets.

  • on January 29, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    So true .. losing isn't the problem, losing without a fight is. India didn't lose, they were defeated - they looked and behaved defeated. They didn't score, they hoped someone would .. some sort of individual miracle; they took a few wickets and then took the foot off the pedal, mostly waiting for a declaration. Instead of soul-searching, they blamed media, pitches, tweets .. boasted about home wins, got into war of words which didn't back performances. In the end they were found physically and mentally wanting even on flat surfaces, despite practice matches. Australians were very good, but beatable - NZ and SA had proved it pretty recently. Most of all, India doesn't seem hurt enough, embarrassed enough. IPL, ODI wins, home wins - just anything to sandpaper it. Its not so much a dent to the pride, there seems misplaced pride all around, even lack of it. And THAT means there is more darkness in store before the tunnel ends ..

  • CricEshwar on January 29, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    "Accepting flaws is the first step towards correcting them.", Gem

  • SRHaider on January 29, 2012, 7:52 GMT

    Sid... good sound article. Thought provoking!

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    Its looks vry easy bt actually not like that..dropping seniors isn't tough task but getting india on right track with new players is vry diffclt. Test cricket is that part of game which requires years of hard work and expertise .It requires some vry nimble solid batsmen and experienced bowlers. People are thinking that australia is nice team but it's not true australia is one of the poorest performer of test cricket now days..I bet u bring australia to india or somewhere else lik RSA or Eng i am damn sure they will not able to make it again..similiar things happens with england when they beat india ..and oldie experts sitting outside commented vry badly over india compare indian batsmen with donkeys n god knows lik what..indian were helpless n india lose 1st rank in that series England thought they r gonna new test king but finally a day came when they lose vry badly to pakistan , a team which is struggling even for eleven players...v will b back better than ever..hu ha india aaya Indi

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    Cannot write any better truth than this Siddhartha. I was so disgusted to see and hear Sehwag that "we won 2-0" ..the world knows specially the Indian cricket fan that despite these big stars and in home condition we struggled to beat 8th ranked WI and he is boasting of this win. Sadly enough even the seniors cricketers are hiding behind the bush instead of boldly accepting the we were just not good enough. The perennial problem of Indian cricket is that we never accept our faults and always points back to the history or time is not good. What is Mr Sehwag expecting from Indian fan..to support them ..this is not a 1 or 2 test matches loss. This is 8-0 and the manner in which the losses came. 4 out of 8 came by an innings and the other were of margin close to 300 which they couldn't manage in last 18 innings or so..and he is asking for the support from the fan. I wish that the fans & media let this debacle postmortem going until the selectors and non-performing players shown the way out

  • VickGower on January 29, 2012, 7:36 GMT

    "A lot of the blame has to be laid at the door of a team of defensive captain and defensive coach."

    Just doesn't make sense. Tell me one captain living or dead who can take a game to 5 days with a batting line up that struggles to score even 200 runs (STRUGGLES TO SCORE EVEN 200 RUNS), and an eleven that is the worst ground fielding unit of the world. Did Gambhir/Sehwag/Sachin/Dravid/Laxman flame out because of poor batting coaching from Fletcher or poor captaincy?! End of story. Kaput. You can blame coach/captain for not ousting a couple of seniors from the top 5 for Rahane/Rohit at least by the fourth test but not much more. And remember, for that you will have to blame both Dhoni and Sehwag; and then, of the remaining 9 you will have to propose ONE player who could have forced Gambhir/Dravid/Laxman out.

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:34 GMT

    Well said. A really good piece of writting that i do hope the BCCI would read. But ofcourse, they have thier own compulsions- IPL - cannot be let off for a silly game like 'Tests'. How else will they be able to rake in the $$. Players will be picked for what they did in the IPL, so they would also be happy to do what their sponsors want. After all arent they the same persons. Nope i cant see any good come out of this. Its the paying public that should teach them a lesson.

  • JustIPL on January 29, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    It is obvious now that india wanted to maintain the ranking by having a series against west indies before english and aussie tour. to test the bench strength and then beat NZ and any other teams by using rank turners but aussies and englhish did not allow this. DRS and FTP were made India friendly specially against swann who was benefitted by the DRS a lot . even against pakistan DRS helps him get wickets. but cricket is not just about stats and hard core performance out there in the middle is needed. It is very common to find fault with IPL but I think talent is not coming through and persisting with seniors is providing disgraced and fallen role models to further deteriorate qualit of upcoming talent. Looks like indian public is parting ways with cricket as talent is not coming through.

  • Vikramaditya100 on January 29, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    I dont think the team will learn anything. They will continue to live in denial till they lose 4-0 at home against Aus. (which I hope they do) Not sure if even then the lessons will be learnt.

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    It is up to selector to drop all the stalwarts and create new team. If they cannot do it then all selectors should resign. and also the chairman of BCCI. See to it that next Chairman and committee is only of cricketers.

  • AusieBangaleeShameem on January 29, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    Understrength bowling attack shattered Indian so-called strong batting line up not for once but eight times --- what would happen if Aussie main bowlers were fit? Lucky escape for India from down-under with losing only their under-pants!!!!!!

  • johnathonjosephs on January 29, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    1st step of getting on the wagon is admitting you have a problem. You work on the 5 step program up until you are up and fully running 100% again. India need to admit they have a problem, identify the problem, then fix it. No need to not admit you have one and keep committing the same mistakes

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:19 GMT

    India don't deserve to play Test cricket, Test status should be given to Ireland, India is still an associate when it comes to Test cricket. Overrated and Over hyped.

  • OnlyKaps on January 29, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    Lacked fight .. or simply fear of the betting mafia ?

  • Caino94 on January 29, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    Wow...this is deep.... I would have to agree though, the indian team needs to seriously look towards the future because you have Tendulkar 38, Dravid 39, Laxman 36 and Sehwag and Gambhir in their 30's, no its not old but it could hit them when this fabulous trio do decide to retire and it will all be with in 6-18 months of each other. We've seen Australia lose their stars like Langer, Hayden, Gilchrist, Warne and McGrath all of a sudden, new players are bred in without much experience..and hell...were still looking for that mysterious test spinner although i do believe that Lyon is doing a great job atm. My words of advice...dont sack the likes of dravid, sachin and VVS but just keep them on notice and rest them for more matches and let them have a mentoring role on the younger players such as kholi, rohit, raina and pujara. With the bowling, well you need a good coach to teach them discipline and bowl consistantly in line with off stump...patience is the key...the key to win tests

  • rahulcricket007 on January 29, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    FIRST CHANGE SHOULD BE THE CHANGE OF CAPTAIN , LOOK AT PAKISTAN , THEY DEFEND A NEARLY NOTHING TOTAL BECAUSE CAPTAIN WAS IMPROVISING BOWLERS OVER AFTER OVER , HE WAS ENCOURAGING THEM , GIVING SUPPORT TO THEM . I NEVER SAW DHONI ENOURAGING BOWLERS IN ENG TOUR & AUS TOUR . HE JUST GOES BEHIND THE WKTS & REMAIN SILENT FOR THE WHOLE DAY , EVEN GANGULY ON COMMENTATORY WAS CRITICIZING DHONI FOR THIS . ALSO DHONI DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO BAT ? NEXT CHANGE WOULD BE SENIORS . OUT OF 3 SENIORS ATLEAST 2 HAD TO GO .

  • on January 29, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    I was taken aback when I saw Niranjan Shah nonchalently not even accepting that we have touched the 'Nadir' ! And rightly so ! He knows that IPL will bring in the Crores of rupees to forget about all these 8:0 defeats! As long as the BCCI & the players Bank accounts get filled up, no one is bothered about the genuine Cricket Lovers & the monumental defeats that the Team is going through! Why should any one retire ? The Non- Performers, what ever their age are to be kicked off from the Side!

  • sk12 on January 29, 2012, 6:57 GMT

    Zaheer and Ishant just couldnt move the ball enough - they were swinging and cutting quite a bit in 2009-2010, wonder what has happenned in the last 2 years. Umesh and Ashwin needs to learn the consistency. In the batting, Dravid will retire now and Laxman will retire after the next 2 home series by year end. Rohit, Pujara, rahane will take their places soon. Dhoni will definitely have to start to shout encouragement to the bowlers and fielders from behind the stumps, esp wen the chips are down. its diffi as a captain, but he has no other chioice really. Hopefully by 2013 we will become competitive again.

  • AKalidas on January 29, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    Bang on, Sidharth ! Time to say our goodbyes to the veterans, thank them for the wonderful memories and move on. They have lost their rights to choose when to leave and have overstayed. It is not the loss, but the manner in which they let the team succumb time and again, without fight, without care and in absolute hope of our continued love and suppot. Time to replace, rebuild and recover. Give Dhoni a you...ng team, support him and start building & climbing. Our current baseline should be somewhere between Bangladesh and Windies. A team comprising Rahane, Mukund, Kohli, Rohit, Pujara, Raina, Dhoni, Ashwin, Rahul Sharma/Ojha, Ishant, Umesh, Vijay, Manoj, Unadkat, Varun/Mithun and Dinda/Jadeja should be a good start.

  • Gopinat on January 29, 2012, 6:51 GMT

    BCCI and the companies that sponsor and fund cricket in this country won't even read this article, which essentially is your title. We will continue to foster and further all forms of one day cricket. They will continue to argue that Umesh Yadav and Virat Kohli came through One day cricket.

    I am also surprised that no one except Maninder Singh has questioned what has NCA delivered. A few years ago, BCCI would have send Ishant Sharma to MRF Pace Foundation. Now there is no time for all that. We will continue to have bowlers whose average would be envy of any batsman.

  • giridhar1988 on January 29, 2012, 6:49 GMT

    For ashwin, the field set by dhoni looked as if the opponent team was chasing down around 200 in T20. Comparatively, clarke had four men surrounding sachin when facing rookie spinner lyon. Unless the selectors take some brave decisions thinking about the future, the Indian team's rise back to the top will be as impossible as seeing a green and bouncy pitch in india. And as superbly said by Monga, if you are not willing to accept you are in a mess, the thinking to get out of that mess will not take place. The fans should not support the team if they continue to play like this. Only if we fans make ourselves clear that this is not the way to go, the BCCI will realise that the money will not pour in for them and they will not turn a deaf ear to what is going on. The events during the period till september will decide the future of indian cricket and the hold the bcci has in the international arena.

  • giridhar1988 on January 29, 2012, 6:40 GMT

    The Indian team's fall is like going up very high in a parachute and suddenly it bursts. India's rise to Number 1 was mainly due to we playing mostly in the subcontinent except tour of NZ (who were not the best test side) & winning consistently. Also, due to the fact that Australia were in the period of transition. Now that the next test overseas is by the end of 2013, it is a golden opportunity for the youngsters to be drafted in the side to replace laxman & dravid. It is baffling to note that rohit sharma was carrying drinks instead of a bat in the middle to score runs. The bowling also looks very thin. Umesh is new to tests but he looks like a good bowler in the making if groomed properly. Ishant sharma is handy with the bat more than with the ball. Even after playing around 40 tests, he is not able to take wickets consistently. Just like zaheer, he should be sent to playing county cricket in england. For the first series in aus, ashwin dint not bowl too badly.

  • MiddleStump on January 29, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    A well thought out article that covers most aspects and which does not blindly blame 'aging seniors' for all the team ills. I would only add that in the future the BCCI MUST talk to every player before announcing the team. It is downright insulting to the paying public and fans world over to witness what happened the past month even while the series was in progress. The team captain publicly declaring his doubts about playing more test cricket, the vice captain expressing a desire to bat in the middle order and his opening partner wanting to bat on turning pitches at home were clear indications that at least some players had no interest in the ongoing series. This is simply not fair to the concerned players or to the fans. The BCCI cannot compel players to play test cricket if they do not wish to do so, or force them to play out of position. By the same token once players have been selected with their consent, they must give their very best until the end. They owe it to the nation.

  • on January 29, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    i dont understand 1 thng.. Dravid's been critisized, so ws laxman nd shewag... But 1 man simply gets away.. M.S.Dhoni... we talk abt axing or in dat case retirmnt of seniors..bt wat abt d captain himself.. does he hav anythng behind him to support his test berth..?? rohit was in awesum touch bt nw he has to wait for 6-7 months for a test, n the form will nt be d same.. if we r talkng abt "handing over the job" to next era thn y nt start dat wit test captaincy.. i thnk indian team is playng wit 10 guys.. dhoni's nt gud enuf fr da test level.. i was really disappointd wit da fact dat Rohit was there jst to carry drinks n msgs to the team...... selectors plzzz wake up.. its morning.. if u dnt thn may be u selectrs wil be axed next tym around..

  • m_ilind on January 29, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    Well written article, Sidharth! Thanks.

  • Alien1 on January 29, 2012, 6:24 GMT

    What about Sachin , you never mentioned his name , he is supposed be "The Greatest Player"... a great player is the one who rise up to the occation, not focus on his records. 100 centuries are worth nothing if you loose in such a shameful manner.

  • Buggsy on January 29, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    Denial is the only word I can use to describe this Indian team. Some things never change. At least Australia had the guts to admit they had a problem and took action to fix them.

  • Viichi on January 29, 2012, 6:22 GMT

    The problem with this team is everytime we think they have hit rock-bottom someone starts digging. Case in point was Sehwag in the second innings at Adelaide - it is ike he was trying his best to get out and failing miserably at it and finally he achieved what he wanted with a full toss!

  • CapitalC on January 29, 2012, 6:16 GMT

    India needs an England kind of shake-up at the top. Accountability is the word here. Sehwag wants to forget it all and have a move on. Very well. But what does this mean? Is it go back, relax , earn handsomely in IPL and start winning again at home against NewZealand. We are not yet going to think about building a team which can win overseas as this is so far ahead in the future? One can judge the attitude of the team from Gambhir's comment where he instead on talking about preparing more sporting pitches at home, indicated that we should go back to square one by preparing rank turners? These guys does not have a say and specially when they have lost so badly. But the board is an accountable body. Are they listening?

  • SmartStrategy on January 29, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    This is a fantastic article, and I suggest every one associated with Team India should read it! It sums up all the debacle, although it should also have touched a bit of rare positives that came from the series (Kohli, Yadav). The most alarming thing for Indian cricket's future is: the reactions from BCCI and team press are very discouraging, inept and arrogantly defensive. It also shows a lot of ignorance to modern day cricket and lack of introspection. Look at England team's response to their recent defeats. The first thing is you must accept the faults, the flaws, understand the problems very well, then only you can think of solutions and plan for the future (a basic management skill). It's alright to loose a series to a better team, but what is saddening is the total absence of initiatives, strategic changes, and a good fight towards trying to win/save the Test match, one after the other, in ALL 8 (16 innings) occasions. Pathetic to see the the same old outdated strategies...

  • ranjit.sg on January 29, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    "Accepting flaws is the first step towards correcting them." Absolutely spot on Sid.

  • on January 29, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    I think your second last paragraph hits the nail on the head. Like a lot of our discourses, the cricketing discourse lacks introversion, and therefore, honesty. Until we can realistically peg our performance to whatever the causes (over-the-hill seniors, technical faults, limited preparation,...), things won't change.

    Also agree with the comment on the selectors. I don't think it was wrong to go into the series with the seniors. The fact is that we didn't make a change for Perth, and even with the series gone, for Adelaide. That shows that the selectors lack judgment, guts or both. Just as Pakistan '78 was a watershed series that saw the end of a great spin generation, let's hope the selection committee now calls time on the great batting generation, thanks them for their outstanding services, and moves onto what's next...

  • moBlue on January 29, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    such a dramatic article! look, the rot starts at the top... with what little regard the BCCI has had for test cricket for years! remember that IND - with the awesome players they had including the trinity whom now everybody seems to be deriding - won abroad over the last decade not because of, but in spite of, the bcci! for instance, in 2003 and 2007, the IND team did not have good tour matches in AUS as preparation, yet they managed to earn respect from us fans. similarly in SA just over a year ago! so now all good things have to come to an end. the trinity are not playing as well as they used to be. not their fault, really, that they are aging. the selectors suck as usual! look at the openers and the bowlers they picked. dhoni has never been an astute test captain or a good away batsman. our bowlers, with the honorable exceptions of zaheer and yadav, never looked like taking wickets, which is par for the course with the teams that the brain-dead selectors have picked for years!

  • on January 29, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    brilliant article, Sid - that hit the spot! between outbursts of denial from the badly outplayed Indian team - as you said, totally outplayed in every department - the insinuations in the Indian media about who's retiring and the "rift" between Dhoni and Sehwag, and finally the BCCI's head-in-the-sand attitude of "problem? what problem?" the fans are getting pretty frustrated and cynical, I can tell you.

  • Rumy1 on January 29, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    So we saw more of the same. Enough man.Time to rest Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Clearly, Sehwag is the most irresponsible player in team. This is proved time and again. Good time to bring Jaffer, Badrinath, Pujara and Kaif for the Test series at home. Wasim Jaffer, Badri and Pujara would be a great blend. Kaif would be a great addition as well. Kaif has always been a captaincy material. Make him the Captain. Besides youth, you need experience for right mix. Both Kaif and Jaffer are in early 30s.Sounds much better than greats in 38s / 39s. Time to blood in Rohit Sharma too.Bring back Harbhajan. Ashwin remains an avg. Ranji level offie who has carrom ball. Ashwin stands sorted out by international batsmen including lesser mortals like Bravo,Chanderpaul, Russel, Rampaul, etc. Pragyan Ojha should also be brought back in. He is a much better bowler with lot more variation and skills than this Srikanth favorite - Ashwin.Time to confirm Saha or I.Khaleel -India's best wk now

  • rangan12 on January 29, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    Very Rightly said Sidarth.. Team should not find excuses ... Seniors should give way for the youngsters.. instead of saying we won in india 2-0

  • on January 29, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    It is a wonderful article. Lots of facts. We need to respect our Star players but cannot hang on to them for forever. Also, the pitches in India need an overhaul. There should be a mix of flat and bouncy wickets. Surely the BCCI has enough money to make that happen. I wish the selectors and BCCI read this article. It is so true I believe Siddharth is becoming a better writer than Harsha. Wake up BCCI - no point in blaming the players when you guys are at fault. Recent N Srinivasan's statement reflected where BCCI stands.He is always in denial mode. Now is the time Lets not get drenched in some home wins and the useless euphoria of IPL. Get the domestic circuit back on track. It's the test wins that matter the most for me - more than the world cup.

  • Gizza on January 29, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    India deserve to lose at home because of their excessive denial. England and Australia will both be capable of doing so. No they won't whitewash India but they can win 1-0 under their best circumstances. New Zealand are also capable of winning. Good fast bowlers can still take wickets in India like Marshall, McGrath, Steyn. You have to adjust your line and length and once you that it won't be that hard. Just outside off stump and fuller compared to the non-subcontinent pitches. Less short pitched stuff unless it is really short. The selfish 40-year-olds won't make hundreds again and Zaheer Khan will fail as well. It will be up to Kohli, Yadav, Aswin, etc. to fix their brains and be more consistent otherwise it will be India's biggest embarrassment.

  • Rumy1 on January 29, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    The Test team for forthcoming home series should look like this....Wasim Jaffer, Rahane, S.Badrinath/C.Pujara, M.Kaif (Capt.), V.Kohli, Rohit Sharma, W.Saha/I.Khaleel (WK), Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma/Umesh Yadav and Pragyan Ojha. The other three spots could be for S.Sreesanth, Manoj Tiwary, and PA Reddy. Extraordinary problems need out of box thinking to solve. Look at Aussies. They have appointed Bailey as Captain of their T20 international side even when Bailey is yet to make an international T20 debut.

  • Rumy1 on January 29, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    So we saw more of the same. Enough man.Time to rest Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Clearly, Sehwag is the most irresponsible player in team. This is proved time and again. Good time to bring Jaffer, Badrinath, Pujara and Kaif for the Test series at home. Wasim Jaffer, Badri and Pujara would be a great blend. Kaif would be a great addition as well. Kaif has always been a captaincy material. Make him the Captain. Besides youngsters, you need some experience too. Both Kaif and Jaffer are in early 30s.Sounds much better than greats in 38s / 39s. Time to blood in Rohit Sharma too.Bring back Harbhajan. Ashwin remains an avg. Ranji level offie who has carrom ball. Ashwin stands sorted out by international batsmen including lesser mortals like Bravo,Chanderpaul, Russel, Rampaul, etc. Pragyan Ojha should also be brought back in. He is a much better bowler with lot more variation and skills than this Srikanth favorite - Ashwin.Time to confirm Saha or I.Khaleel -India's best wk now

  • on January 29, 2012, 5:38 GMT

    great article. but everyone keeps saying india dont play away until 2013 yet according to the ftp they play in sri lanka this year. still in the subcontinent but still away

  • cricbrick on January 29, 2012, 5:38 GMT

    I sometimes wonder if BCCI/players do care about losing a series abroad. I feel the arrogance is such that they silently enjoy fans and opposition moaning and celebrating the loss/win as if they just went out to fulfill contractual obligations.

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  • cricbrick on January 29, 2012, 5:38 GMT

    I sometimes wonder if BCCI/players do care about losing a series abroad. I feel the arrogance is such that they silently enjoy fans and opposition moaning and celebrating the loss/win as if they just went out to fulfill contractual obligations.

  • on January 29, 2012, 5:38 GMT

    great article. but everyone keeps saying india dont play away until 2013 yet according to the ftp they play in sri lanka this year. still in the subcontinent but still away

  • Rumy1 on January 29, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    So we saw more of the same. Enough man.Time to rest Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Clearly, Sehwag is the most irresponsible player in team. This is proved time and again. Good time to bring Jaffer, Badrinath, Pujara and Kaif for the Test series at home. Wasim Jaffer, Badri and Pujara would be a great blend. Kaif would be a great addition as well. Kaif has always been a captaincy material. Make him the Captain. Besides youngsters, you need some experience too. Both Kaif and Jaffer are in early 30s.Sounds much better than greats in 38s / 39s. Time to blood in Rohit Sharma too.Bring back Harbhajan. Ashwin remains an avg. Ranji level offie who has carrom ball. Ashwin stands sorted out by international batsmen including lesser mortals like Bravo,Chanderpaul, Russel, Rampaul, etc. Pragyan Ojha should also be brought back in. He is a much better bowler with lot more variation and skills than this Srikanth favorite - Ashwin.Time to confirm Saha or I.Khaleel -India's best wk now

  • Rumy1 on January 29, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    The Test team for forthcoming home series should look like this....Wasim Jaffer, Rahane, S.Badrinath/C.Pujara, M.Kaif (Capt.), V.Kohli, Rohit Sharma, W.Saha/I.Khaleel (WK), Harbhajan Singh, Zaheer Khan, Ishant Sharma/Umesh Yadav and Pragyan Ojha. The other three spots could be for S.Sreesanth, Manoj Tiwary, and PA Reddy. Extraordinary problems need out of box thinking to solve. Look at Aussies. They have appointed Bailey as Captain of their T20 international side even when Bailey is yet to make an international T20 debut.

  • Gizza on January 29, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    India deserve to lose at home because of their excessive denial. England and Australia will both be capable of doing so. No they won't whitewash India but they can win 1-0 under their best circumstances. New Zealand are also capable of winning. Good fast bowlers can still take wickets in India like Marshall, McGrath, Steyn. You have to adjust your line and length and once you that it won't be that hard. Just outside off stump and fuller compared to the non-subcontinent pitches. Less short pitched stuff unless it is really short. The selfish 40-year-olds won't make hundreds again and Zaheer Khan will fail as well. It will be up to Kohli, Yadav, Aswin, etc. to fix their brains and be more consistent otherwise it will be India's biggest embarrassment.

  • on January 29, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    It is a wonderful article. Lots of facts. We need to respect our Star players but cannot hang on to them for forever. Also, the pitches in India need an overhaul. There should be a mix of flat and bouncy wickets. Surely the BCCI has enough money to make that happen. I wish the selectors and BCCI read this article. It is so true I believe Siddharth is becoming a better writer than Harsha. Wake up BCCI - no point in blaming the players when you guys are at fault. Recent N Srinivasan's statement reflected where BCCI stands.He is always in denial mode. Now is the time Lets not get drenched in some home wins and the useless euphoria of IPL. Get the domestic circuit back on track. It's the test wins that matter the most for me - more than the world cup.

  • rangan12 on January 29, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    Very Rightly said Sidarth.. Team should not find excuses ... Seniors should give way for the youngsters.. instead of saying we won in india 2-0

  • Rumy1 on January 29, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    So we saw more of the same. Enough man.Time to rest Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Clearly, Sehwag is the most irresponsible player in team. This is proved time and again. Good time to bring Jaffer, Badrinath, Pujara and Kaif for the Test series at home. Wasim Jaffer, Badri and Pujara would be a great blend. Kaif would be a great addition as well. Kaif has always been a captaincy material. Make him the Captain. Besides youth, you need experience for right mix. Both Kaif and Jaffer are in early 30s.Sounds much better than greats in 38s / 39s. Time to blood in Rohit Sharma too.Bring back Harbhajan. Ashwin remains an avg. Ranji level offie who has carrom ball. Ashwin stands sorted out by international batsmen including lesser mortals like Bravo,Chanderpaul, Russel, Rampaul, etc. Pragyan Ojha should also be brought back in. He is a much better bowler with lot more variation and skills than this Srikanth favorite - Ashwin.Time to confirm Saha or I.Khaleel -India's best wk now

  • on January 29, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    brilliant article, Sid - that hit the spot! between outbursts of denial from the badly outplayed Indian team - as you said, totally outplayed in every department - the insinuations in the Indian media about who's retiring and the "rift" between Dhoni and Sehwag, and finally the BCCI's head-in-the-sand attitude of "problem? what problem?" the fans are getting pretty frustrated and cynical, I can tell you.

  • moBlue on January 29, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    such a dramatic article! look, the rot starts at the top... with what little regard the BCCI has had for test cricket for years! remember that IND - with the awesome players they had including the trinity whom now everybody seems to be deriding - won abroad over the last decade not because of, but in spite of, the bcci! for instance, in 2003 and 2007, the IND team did not have good tour matches in AUS as preparation, yet they managed to earn respect from us fans. similarly in SA just over a year ago! so now all good things have to come to an end. the trinity are not playing as well as they used to be. not their fault, really, that they are aging. the selectors suck as usual! look at the openers and the bowlers they picked. dhoni has never been an astute test captain or a good away batsman. our bowlers, with the honorable exceptions of zaheer and yadav, never looked like taking wickets, which is par for the course with the teams that the brain-dead selectors have picked for years!