Australia v India, 1st T20, Sydney February 1, 2012

Similarities with England tour continue

A limited-overs game in which rain plays a part in your defeat. It is all looking awfully familiar for India
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India last played in Sydney about a month ago. During that Test, R Ashwin, the India offspinner, complained about how everybody was already finding similarities between India's tour of England and their trip to Australia, and how it was a deterrent to India that people were already talking about a 4-0 whitewash. A month later, India's first night of limited-overs cricket on this trip already shares eerie similarities with the limited-overs leg of their England tour.

Unseasonal rains have made their appearance again. Even though India - for a change - got the toss right on a rainy day, and correctly chose to field first, it rained only when India were bowling. By the time Australia came out to field, the clouds had disappeared, and the only towel seen on the field was the one India threw in. MS Dhoni, who has now gone 14 international matches away from home without a win, saw the similarities too.

"The weather played a big part in it [the loss in Sydney]," Dhoni said. "In England we didn't win any tosses, it rained in the second innings and our bowling suffered because of that. This time I won the toss, and with the rain forecast I thought we would chase. I though the pitch would remain the same, if not get better, and 170-odd runs was a good score to chase if the pitch remained the same.

"We got off to a good start but after that it didn't rain. It started to turn and grip, and the odd ball was bouncing more than the normal delivery. It was difficult."

However, while India may have had a valid-ish excuse about being on the wrong side of the weather, the selection of their XI was incongruous with the forecast. They picked two specialist spinners to go with three part-time spinners. They could have played the seaming allrounder, Irfan Pathan, if they wanted to pick two specialist spinners. As it turned out, the spinners found it hard to grip the ball, and went for 108 in their 13 overs.

The medium-pacers, though, did worse, going for 62 runs in their seven overs, with Praveen Kumar not even finishing his full quota of overs. Matthew Wade, the Man of the Match, said India's spinners were more difficult to negotiate than the seamers. That severely hampered spinners were better than the quicks says a lot about India's plight in the match.

"We wanted to pick Rahul Sharma because he did really well in the IPL, and if you look at his bowling analysis he did the job he was supposed to do," Dhoni said. "I think all the spinners did well. I think [Ravindra] Jadeja was a bit expensive but we always play him because he gives us balance. The part-timers also contributed. [Suresh] Raina bowled two very good overs before he was expensive in the third one. Overall it went our way because in between we were able to pull the game back towards us."

The similarities with the England tour continued when India came out to bat. Rohit Sharma's tour of England lasted just one ball when he broke his hand in his first match there. Here, he was bowled off the pad first ball. The pitch did become difficult to bat on, but 31 runs was too emphatic a margin of defeat.

After a night that bore so much resemblance to the England tour, India will hope to avoid one dreaded similarity with that trip: going winless.

In England, the whitewash in the Tests was put down to injuries. In Australia, though, India continued to lose Tests even when not missing any of their stars. The losses in the ODIs in England were put down - and not without merit - to not winning tosses in rain-affected matches. Here, India won the toss in the first game, and still lost emphatically.

Dhoni, though, said that he wasn't reminded of England when on the field. "At that point of time you think of how to get through the adversities."

India need to get through the adversities sometime soon because when that winning feeling is denied for long enough you kind of forget how to get it back.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • CricFreax on February 3, 2012, 2:59 GMT

    will the selectors look at our comment the XI for next game should be Gambhir, Sachin (sehwag can be dropped), Virat, Raina,Rohit,MSD,Ashwin, Umesh, Irfan, Praveen, Rahul if groomed well and given chance this team can play anything test odious or t20

  • keecha on February 2, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    India are most comfortable on the 50 over format only. They have forgotten how to adapt to the 5 day format and never learned the 20 over one. I say this bearing in mind they won the first WC of that format It was won when other teams were caught unaware of that version. They have gone on to quickly adapt and we stay where we were in 2007, still waiting for a last ball blunder by an unsuspecting random Misbah.They need to assign roles to players at diff positions and identify 20 20 specialist bowlers Need to plan for diff scenarios and mentally prepare of every occasion.Assign short term targets and strive to over achieve at each stage of the match, that is what great 20 20 teams do. Dhoni cannot carry the Chepauk pitch all along as he can carry Ashwin, that said Ashwin is one of the best in business no doubt..He has to groom horses for diff tracks, I feel he should bat no3 in 20 20 as he can pace the innings better than any one else, Raina aside.Kohli can be No.4 and Rohit 5.Raina 6..

  • CricFreax on February 2, 2012, 13:20 GMT

    Another problem there not enough international games played by youngsters recently. the team is getting shuffled too often. they keep on changing players. as every say below. even if the openers are to be changed then the new player will again struggel to get into form. the team should be maintained. may be irfan can come for praveen and umesh for vina or rahul. but the batting line up should be same. we can have one more bowler instaed of jadeja as ashwin's batting also seems promising

    the XI for next game should be Gambhir, Sachin (sehwag can be dropped), Virat, Raina,Rohit,MSD,Ashwin, Umesh, Irfan, Praveen, Rahul

  • CricFreax on February 2, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    The problem for the indian team startd in the toss itself. i am not sure what motivated indian captain to bowl under a overcast condition. As for regarding pitch analysing capablities outside India, we could see the captain has no idea either to choose in toss or selecting team. Ozzies had 2 seamers 1 med pacer and 1 main spinner and 1 parttime spinner. the difference between their bowling and our were there bowled stump t ostump on a good length our bowlers bowled everwhere they wanted to and the captain did not stop it. Also their spinners were quick and our bowler gave them enough time that they might had tea before hitting for six. As fas as batting concerned every one fell down due to the pressure of run rate and captains cool's cool batting

    The end line is that Indian team played as if they dont know cricket and dont have brain and ozzies played good cricket. The indian team should first lear nhow to bowl and where to bowl. until then there will be a loss

  • CricketChat on February 2, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    There is no hope for Ind team on this Aus tour. Their core players have been too battle scarred to come out of the rut they are in. Painful as it may be for BCCI and Ind fans to bare this low after last year's WC high, it did serve its purpose. Time to phase out seniors on decline and infuse new blood. I am certain BCCI will act decisively under a new selection committee. For now though, we just have to see how much fight is left with new comers.

  • AvidCricFan on February 2, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    If any, Vinay Kumar should be replaced by Irfan and top order, Shewag and Gambhir, needs to be bench until they sort out their issues. India is not served well by Shewag who fires once in 10 matches and rides on it. He needs to provide more consistent performance. Gambhir is out of sorts. He needs to be replaced.

  • Hold_the_line on February 2, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    "In England, the whitewash in the Tests was put down to injuries. In Australia, though, India continued to lose Tests even when not missing any of their stars. The losses in the ODIs in England were put down - and not without merit - to not winning tosses in rain-affected matches. Here, India won the toss in the first game, and still lost emphatically."

    A lot of English fans boast of thier win against Aus in 2011 against a side weakened by the loss of a generation of stars. But here we see the relative strength of 2 sides 12 months on. One is on the way up, one is on the way down.

  • on February 2, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    Correction to my earlier post: Please read the statement as: "This Indian team is physically and mentally NOT fit enough to win against Australia"

  • Fast_Track_Bully on February 2, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    well done India. keep going!

  • on February 2, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    complain complains lol........

  • CricFreax on February 3, 2012, 2:59 GMT

    will the selectors look at our comment the XI for next game should be Gambhir, Sachin (sehwag can be dropped), Virat, Raina,Rohit,MSD,Ashwin, Umesh, Irfan, Praveen, Rahul if groomed well and given chance this team can play anything test odious or t20

  • keecha on February 2, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    India are most comfortable on the 50 over format only. They have forgotten how to adapt to the 5 day format and never learned the 20 over one. I say this bearing in mind they won the first WC of that format It was won when other teams were caught unaware of that version. They have gone on to quickly adapt and we stay where we were in 2007, still waiting for a last ball blunder by an unsuspecting random Misbah.They need to assign roles to players at diff positions and identify 20 20 specialist bowlers Need to plan for diff scenarios and mentally prepare of every occasion.Assign short term targets and strive to over achieve at each stage of the match, that is what great 20 20 teams do. Dhoni cannot carry the Chepauk pitch all along as he can carry Ashwin, that said Ashwin is one of the best in business no doubt..He has to groom horses for diff tracks, I feel he should bat no3 in 20 20 as he can pace the innings better than any one else, Raina aside.Kohli can be No.4 and Rohit 5.Raina 6..

  • CricFreax on February 2, 2012, 13:20 GMT

    Another problem there not enough international games played by youngsters recently. the team is getting shuffled too often. they keep on changing players. as every say below. even if the openers are to be changed then the new player will again struggel to get into form. the team should be maintained. may be irfan can come for praveen and umesh for vina or rahul. but the batting line up should be same. we can have one more bowler instaed of jadeja as ashwin's batting also seems promising

    the XI for next game should be Gambhir, Sachin (sehwag can be dropped), Virat, Raina,Rohit,MSD,Ashwin, Umesh, Irfan, Praveen, Rahul

  • CricFreax on February 2, 2012, 13:09 GMT

    The problem for the indian team startd in the toss itself. i am not sure what motivated indian captain to bowl under a overcast condition. As for regarding pitch analysing capablities outside India, we could see the captain has no idea either to choose in toss or selecting team. Ozzies had 2 seamers 1 med pacer and 1 main spinner and 1 parttime spinner. the difference between their bowling and our were there bowled stump t ostump on a good length our bowlers bowled everwhere they wanted to and the captain did not stop it. Also their spinners were quick and our bowler gave them enough time that they might had tea before hitting for six. As fas as batting concerned every one fell down due to the pressure of run rate and captains cool's cool batting

    The end line is that Indian team played as if they dont know cricket and dont have brain and ozzies played good cricket. The indian team should first lear nhow to bowl and where to bowl. until then there will be a loss

  • CricketChat on February 2, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    There is no hope for Ind team on this Aus tour. Their core players have been too battle scarred to come out of the rut they are in. Painful as it may be for BCCI and Ind fans to bare this low after last year's WC high, it did serve its purpose. Time to phase out seniors on decline and infuse new blood. I am certain BCCI will act decisively under a new selection committee. For now though, we just have to see how much fight is left with new comers.

  • AvidCricFan on February 2, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    If any, Vinay Kumar should be replaced by Irfan and top order, Shewag and Gambhir, needs to be bench until they sort out their issues. India is not served well by Shewag who fires once in 10 matches and rides on it. He needs to provide more consistent performance. Gambhir is out of sorts. He needs to be replaced.

  • Hold_the_line on February 2, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    "In England, the whitewash in the Tests was put down to injuries. In Australia, though, India continued to lose Tests even when not missing any of their stars. The losses in the ODIs in England were put down - and not without merit - to not winning tosses in rain-affected matches. Here, India won the toss in the first game, and still lost emphatically."

    A lot of English fans boast of thier win against Aus in 2011 against a side weakened by the loss of a generation of stars. But here we see the relative strength of 2 sides 12 months on. One is on the way up, one is on the way down.

  • on February 2, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    Correction to my earlier post: Please read the statement as: "This Indian team is physically and mentally NOT fit enough to win against Australia"

  • Fast_Track_Bully on February 2, 2012, 6:14 GMT

    well done India. keep going!

  • on February 2, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    complain complains lol........

  • on February 2, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    Such a lame excuse by Dhoni and the writer. Just because it rained India lost.What about misreading the pitch? India have run out of excuses sadly. But being a Sri Lankan fan, i dare to say anything because India will let go all frustration with us.

  • Meety on February 2, 2012, 6:01 GMT

    I suppose the interest will now be in Oz v SL, & SL v India matches. In regard SL, their recent memories are pretty good ones in Oz, so India maybe about to get some more PAIN!

  • sg05 on February 2, 2012, 5:19 GMT

    IND need IRFAN and UTHAPPA too, uthappa has the ability to play well in especially FOREIGN pitches he s a WELL hitter in Foreign ground earlier days He done that in CB series also Opening partnership with sachin and helped(as a opener he done little bit) india to won the seies 1ST time in aus he blasted his every 50's in ENG,Aus. Sehwag will be well suit in Asian pitches

  • zenboomerang on February 2, 2012, 5:04 GMT

    Very surprised at many of the negative Indian comments... Its a T20 & results are usually unpredictable... Dhoni, Gambhir batted well but without support & some bad luck to RG Sharma while only P Kumar, Jadeja leaked runs... I would have added Umesh Yadav or Zaheer to the bowling - 1 in each match... Also take out Jadeja & get Dhoni to open - he's in the wrong postition... In return the Oz bowling unit was very good again & proved the difference in this match...

  • zenboomerang on February 2, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    @Ali Malik :- "Every team struggle's in Australia"... A fallacy... WI, SA, Eng, Pak, SL, NZ have all at various times had good series in Oz... Though I'm not sure why India haven't... Sri Lanka has always put up a good fight in ODI's & I expect them to again be tough to beat... The Tri-nations looks like an exciting prospect & Oz aren't the favorites - again...

  • Siva-The-Human on February 2, 2012, 4:27 GMT

    There is only one person able to rebuild our team! He is GANGULY.

  • The_big_j on February 2, 2012, 4:24 GMT

    This Indian team should go hide itself such an disgrace, not only to indians but cricket itself. 1 billion people... highest paid cricketers... unlimited supply of money and all the facilities at their disposal... yet their getting swept left and right. All the indian "great" batsman should be dropped and forced into retirement.

  • on February 2, 2012, 4:00 GMT

    If INDIA wins in this tour, that will come against SRILANKA not against AUSTRALIA!! This Indian team is physically and mentally fit enough to win against Australia. It is as simple as that.

  • wake_up_india on February 2, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    Typically cricket stats show a batsman's average, or mean, score. It would be more indicative of the consistency of the player, and hence utility to the team, to show the 50 percentile, or median, score. Sehwag (still) has an average of 50.79 in Tests, but he clearly does not reach 50 with 50% probability, i.e. his mean and median are quite different. I think his mean is boosted by occasional (and unpredictable) mega scores. I doubt if his recent median score has crossed 25. I wonder if the Cricinfo statistican can dig up this metric for all our fading greats. Team selection should be based on the median, not mean, score. One can come up with objective selction guidelines such as, if a batsman's median falls below a certain level he must start facing periodic time-outs from the team, the exclusion period getting longer unless the median improved (in first class matches). This will help ensure that the team place is not "owned" by a given player.

  • Yarms on February 2, 2012, 3:33 GMT

    Well said Stranger09...! The majority of comments are form fair weather friends. We should be backing our team in crisis. If we are real fans do we really need to give them extra pressure by kicking them when they are down? We have heard all the comments about the old guard in Test matches and time to bring in youth.. The Youth has been brought in to the T20 and ODI's lets hope they perform to their potential. Come on India.. Lets show the Aussies what we are really made off.. and Indian Fans time for you to support your team... when it really matters!!!

  • here2rock on February 2, 2012, 3:06 GMT

    India must drop Shewag and Gambir from the next match. They can not continue to create mess at the top of the order. It is time to try fresh new openers in the next T20.

  • satanswish on February 2, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    Don't just find similarities, work on your shortcomings. They are plentiful of them. First thing you gotta do is to sack your captain from Test captaincy. Next thing would be force retire 40-nearing oldies or seniors whatever they call. Infuse young blood for the opportunity they deserve. Dhoni just rided on the success wave of players matured from Ganguly's Team India. Its Ganguly who deserves accolade for building strong Team India which made them win WC2011. I'm afraid Dhoni's honeymoon period is over.

  • wolf777 on February 2, 2012, 2:39 GMT

    Why Irfan Pathan was not played? No Yadav either? What Dhoni was thinking? Obvously, he has some beef against Pathan brothers.

  • mondotv on February 2, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    Well I thought Sehwag was unlucky - he got a beauty (sure he didn't move his feet but he never does - another day he might have missed it and survived) and it was one of only two Brett Lee balls that actually swung - the other one being a wide. And speaking of wides, I'm an Aussie fan but was with those two wides that weren't called early in the Indian innings - both umpires should be disciplined for that. Still - a very comprehensive victory and Dhoni can't blame the rain - rather we should look at why the Idian spinners weren't turning the ball on a damp track -- oh wait I know why - they left the real spinners out of the team. Ashwin barely turns it at the best of times, Raina bowled at about 100km/h and Rahul just about broke his hand in his first over so I can't really say what he normally does but it looked like mainly toppies..so once again no sideways spin. Could have been the track but I suspect the method...

  • BalaSenty on February 2, 2012, 2:24 GMT

    India should have batted first like @Harry said. This Indian team lacks fighting sprit. Raina simply talks a lot. Funny No hit Sharma waited for a golden duck. How he can play test match? He can not come to test side and that too to replace VVS. Sehwag is also not interested to play. Poor Indian fans, may be one moreloss in T20 and 8-0 ODI loss may be there!!!!!. In all these, Indian team enjoys in Australia by sightseeing and giving great excuses.

  • jasonpete on February 2, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    @Jagadaaku,did you noticed wada came as an opening batsman and dhoni lower down the order? It's sehwag duty to make some runs.when the openers don't give proper start you can't win the game.what a silly reason even though I am not an Indian ,Indian. Fans are the worst when Indian team losing matches.keep it balance when Indian team wins Or lose matches,dont go extreme either way

  • on February 2, 2012, 1:39 GMT

    THEY WILL ALL ODI IN AUS..SL WILL BEAT THEM 3-1, AUS 4-0!!!!

  • on February 1, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    I'm sure BCCI have a departeement where guys have a duty just for find some excuses after losing mathes, amazing :-) a captain should be brave to admit the mistakes. Just like Andrew Straus he lost he admit simple.

  • Patchmaster on February 1, 2012, 22:56 GMT

    Indian supporters have long invaded the reports and articles on all test match, ODI's and T20's, harping on about how this and that match didn't matter, because India would beat them or India would do this and that. Fact is, India are terrible at the moment, they are full of excuses and empty of skill, courage and passion. Ireland would beat India in a test match. Maybe India will win in India, but it doesn;t matter if you're king at home, but get thrashed around the world. Cricket was invented in England, so to call yourself a great side, you have to be able to play on the surfaces that cricket was invented for, i.e. green and damp. AUS and WEST INDIES sides have managed it in the past, that's why they were great sides. India are a long way from that.

  • Hodra99 on February 1, 2012, 22:51 GMT

    More excuses from the Indian team.....maybe your just not good enough????

  • on February 1, 2012, 22:46 GMT

    Last time the Indians toured Australia, Rohit Sharma was getting called No hit Sharma and after finally getting a game after the test series, he got out first ball without hitting it. I hope he has better luck soon and is able to dodge that unfortunate nickname.

  • rumcork69 on February 1, 2012, 22:41 GMT

    It very funny how all the media and fan are bashing the Indian cricket team. Just remember life is a cycle there must be ups and downs. Look at England in their current series with Pakistan. Australia a couple years ago. The West Indies have a deep hole to get out off. Yes there needs to be change in the Indian team but pointing fingesr is not helping from fans and the media. There is a lot confidence lacking in this indian team, once they solve that things will fall into place.

  • jaztech on February 1, 2012, 22:40 GMT

    Indian writers are so India-centric it's almost an embarrassment to read. India either win the match, or India lose the match. Their were either too good for the other team which is why they won, or they played poorly which is why they lost. The role of the other team is relegated to showing up and going through their paces apparently, not influencing the game. Australia played well. They WON the game. Not that would be something remarkable for an Indian writer to write about.

  • sifter132 on February 1, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    "the only towel seen on the field was the one India threw in" What rubbish Siddarth. Xavier Doherty had a towel in his pocket and was still wiping the ball between every delivery, even in the final over - so implying that the water had magically gone away by the time Australia bowled in pure drivel. And if India's spinners were finding it so hard to grip the ball - why the hell did they pick 3 of them (and bowl Raina for 3 overs too)? They knew there was a good chance of rain, they knew the ground was already wet from earlier rain - they should have known exactly what the spinners would face.

  • Abhimanyu on February 1, 2012, 22:05 GMT

    Only positive for India in this match was Rahul Sharma. Another day and he could have had 4 wickets. He still got at least one wicket to show despite dropping two tough catches and MS Dhoni missing one stumping chance also. Why can't Indian selectors be as smart as the Australian selectors? They certainly could bring Murali Karthik back but they did not. Hogg is lucky to be born in Australia.

  • Harry_Kool on February 1, 2012, 22:04 GMT

    At the Oylimpic Stadium, you ALWAYS bat first. The pitch gets lower, slower & harder as the game wears on. This is common knowledge, weather conditions or not, you ALWAYS bat first there. Surely the Indian think tank must have bene aware of these stats? 7 players the same as the test team? That is a little hard to understand why, but to each to their own.

  • inthebag on February 1, 2012, 22:02 GMT

    One game people - settle down.

  • GMathews on February 1, 2012, 21:58 GMT

    I M THE PERSON WHO POSTED MANY COMMENTS FOR rahul sharma, thanking management giving him a chance. I FEEL HE IS THE BEST SPINNER INDIA HAVE CURRENTLY FOR SHORTER FORMAT, HE MUST GET CHANCE AHEAD OF ASWIN IN THE ONEDAYERS, his first T20 his figures would have been around 20 for 4 ,unlucky he lost two return catches and probably a LBW, I found 3 positives with yesterdays match 1. Dhoni has shown some batting confidence 2.Rahul Sharma's performance 3.India's youngsters fielding. EVERY ONE BLAMES WITH SOMANY REASON FOR INDIA'S TEST LOSS 4-0, I WOULD SAY THE MAIN REASON TO LOSE THE SERIES WAS THEIR FIELDING

  • Stranger09 on February 1, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    To all the so called Indian supporters who has taken Indian team for a beating, be honest to say that you've all blown trumpets when the same team won the world cup plaing in India...if India bats well in Indian conditions is that a fault??come on guys have some respect for your team...can't blame them all the time because ur ego is getting hurt with their losses.....to all the friends talking about dhoni's ego, when did u get a chance to spend in the Indian dressing room and witness that. There is a definite disappointment when the team doesn't perform well.....but we need to support the team in their bad times too...the worst thing India has on their back is the pressure from their own supporters when they lose which doesn't happen with other teams.....so all the Indian cricket fans...step up.....support your team

  • on February 1, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    Every team struggle's in Australia. but problem here for indian team is stardom. Too many stars which dnt let captian to choose new player's easily because of Paper records r 2 heavy, same problem pakistan had from 2000-2003 when we had the best players of all time but they were losing because of they stardom n their ego which stopped them to learn. Indian players should come to learning yard again to fix their problems. YUVI was stand-up winner in crises along with Dhoni, since he left the team, now india lacks fire. India should bring new players in systematically instead of sticking to old guns who score in purposeless matches more but on real occassion they fall while playing out of india.

  • WellKept on February 1, 2012, 21:33 GMT

    Ashwin should open with Rihane. He has opened before in his career. In this tour he has courageously faced the attack and the press! We need the opening pair to last and put runs. Rest Gambhir, i think he is still dizzy from England hit. If team wants to keep Sehwag for reasons I fail to understand..send him down the order, anyway he lasts only for a few overs..let him do what he wants there..

  • Favell on February 1, 2012, 21:30 GMT

    Sidharth Monga writes that "the only towel seen on the field (when Australia was in the field) was the one India threw in." When you are trying to be clever in explaining India's humiliation Sidharth, you'd better get your towels right! Bailey, Lee, Hussey, Hogg and others had towels and all were vigorously trying the dry the sodden ball. Lee also had sawdust. He couldn't land his feet as he would have liked inn the slippery conditions. The rain worked against the Aussies, not for them.

  • SanjivAwesome on February 1, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    Drop Sehwag immediately - his recent run of under-performance is testimony to an ageing has-been. I doubt they are reading this post, sigh.

  • Jaggadaaku on February 1, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    Have any one noticed? Both wicket-keeper faced 43 balls exact, but the wicket-keeper who has plenty of International experience made only 48 runs, and the wicket-keeper has no International experience made 72 runs. If Dhoni had make 72 runs, India wouldn't have lost the match by this margin, and could another batsman step-up and could win the match. In this series, India only could win any match, if they are chasing 120 runs in T20, and 175 in ODIs somehow. Looks like they don't care about anything. In Australian side, the whole team is different than the test side while Indian side, 7 idiots are same as the test team. India don't need to take 2 spinners in any form of the match. They have Ravindra Jadeja, the all-rounder who can bowl and bat. He just made 314* in domestic match before the West Indies series started, but never got a chance in whole WI test series, nor in AUS test series. Then why they keep playing domestic cricket, if they won't select from there?

  • Patchmaster on February 1, 2012, 20:07 GMT

    India..how the mighty have fallen...........How Sewag keeps his place is a miracle really. Dhoni needs to retire to the IPL and finish off ruining his career there.

  • Buggsy on February 1, 2012, 19:48 GMT

    I can't believe how Sehwag is only now getting found out with the full swinging ball. If he doesn't fix that soon his career will be over.

  • on February 1, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    Blaming Fletcher for the defeats wont help. Just a reminder, its the same Fletcher who did great job for England when he had full control of the team management, selection and can freely pick his side and had a word in the management. In India, he is just a puppet and a scapegoat when things go wrong. Dhoni is playing all his CSK team members, there are better players in IPL who can perform better than this team. Ravindra Jadeja was dropped and see how he performed after wards. Its high time to axe few senior players who take their position for granted. IPL could be a bonus for young players who dream of making it big, but at the same time, IPL will be responsible for the downfall of this mighty Indian team when the Senior players will leave..

  • rahulcricket007 on February 1, 2012, 19:39 GMT

    THOSE PEOPLE WHO R SUPPORTING SEHWAG SHOULD NOT THAT LAST TIME WHEN WE WIN CB SERIES SEHWAG WAS DROPPED IN THE FINALS , UTHAPPA WAS PLAYING IN PLACE OF HIM .

  • wake_up_india on February 1, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    The team is suffering from low confidence, made insurrmountable by a Zen captain, albeit a good player. Ganguly would have chewed off all his nails by now. Need more fire in the belly.

  • Ravi_kumar_musuku on February 1, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    We were waiting for this match and woke up around 3:00AM, our bowling section is ok but batting is very poor, u guys play only in india that to on batting wickets and u guys play for money, it was wrong decision by taking fielding after winning the toss. Please look at australian cricketers they play everywhere in the world, we play only for records that to in subcontinent pitches.

    Guys do not waste time in watching the cricket for now, you can watch when we play in india by palying against Canada, Zimbabwe and Netharlands.

  • on February 1, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    No Pathan again in 2nd T20 , Dhoni does not like him. Why do'nt u guys rest Ghambir & Shewag, give a chance to Tiwary/ Pathan. Dhoni's EGO is the problem.

  • gogoldengreens on February 1, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    heres a same as the tests - Rohit Sharma in to replace Dravid the batter that gets bowled - a like for like replacement

  • on February 1, 2012, 18:44 GMT

    There is another spin to Indian cricket team saga: Let the entire empire/ structure crumble first before a new one can be built upon.

  • on February 1, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    Australian Cricket Board is very very smart. They scheduled the T20Is right after the Big Bash and picked all the best player from the BBL. Wonder if Hoggy would have been picked if the T20I was before the BBL.

  • on February 1, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Rahul was impressive bcz his technique is so flawed that he gets bold every time................funny

  • on February 1, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    again v are lukin a white wash in odi too...i don't knw why they brought irfan to aus...juss for vacation i think!!

  • on February 1, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    Hey guys relax first. cricket is a funny game. After India won the world cup last year all Indian cricket fans portrayed dhoni as god. And now see what happened everything is upside down. Watch cricket as a game and not as a religion. LOVE ALL THE TEAMS I MEAN LOVE CRICKET AND DON'T LOVE A PARTICULAR TEAM. SO THAT EVERYTHING WOULD BE NICE. I MEAN ENJOY THE CRICKET THAT'S IT. MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO INDIAN FANS ARE DON'T TAKE CRICKET PLAYERS AS UR ROLE MODEL OR HERO OR ANYTHING.

  • Micky.Panda on February 1, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    Jadeja flops again. "Dhoni said. I think all the spinners did well. I think [Ravindra] Jadeja was a bit expensive but we always play him because he gives us balance". How does it make sense to play Jadeja at all. His batting strike rate in T20 Internationals is just 85 (120 is a minimum pass mark) with average of 12. He has 6 wickets at 44 runs a piece, and bowling economy rate is 7.13. Economy is not too bad but as an all rounder he is a complete flop. Z Khan and Harbhajan would make runs faster than Jadeja and surely both can bowl better. Where is the balance? I suppose to be fair, Jadeja only gets a bat when India are in desperate wicket trouble, and hence the slow rate, but I still think he adds little value.

  • BowledYa on February 1, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    Just think of what Dhoni is telling his team. If the weather, the toss, conditions, fitness, health etc. etc. go in our favor then we can win. Otherwise forget it. The stars have to be aligned, and oh by the way we have to be playing at home, then surely we can win. No wonder the team has no confidence in their ability to win. With this mindset they have already lost the rest of the matches. Instead he should try taking the responsibility and not make any excuses, period.

  • ccriccfan on February 1, 2012, 17:49 GMT

    Goodness, too much excuses! Be a man dhoni and admit that your leadership style is a thing of the past. You were just plain old lucky when the seniors were going great guns or a lot of younger in form players were in the team. You are too self biased to think with clear head to give a chance to Irfan Pathan

  • WellKept on February 1, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    PLEASE PLEASE - SOS!! - REMOVE SEHWAG

  • on February 1, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    Dhoni please stop making these kind of statements. Weather and Ability has got no correlation.Pick Irfan in place of Sehwag and take Luck factor out of the equation completely.

  • ishrat1971 on February 1, 2012, 17:37 GMT

    @rahulcricket just over a couple of months ago Sehwag blasted the highest score in limited overs cricket ... What has gone wrong .... Is the malaise within the team players.... Is grandstanding proving to be the downfall..... What is Fletcher doing...

  • India_calling on February 1, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    I still can't figure out what the hell Vinay Kumar is doing in this team.....and why Irfan Pathan is still warming up the bench only......if the bowl is team swinging then even Pravin Kumar is worthless......we need Umesh Yadav anyhow or atleast bring in Munaf Patel as he can bring up bar anytime in game....but still batting failures again.....they need to put up partnerships together rather handling it individually......hoping just best for future....

  • dilscoop_uk on February 1, 2012, 17:10 GMT

    Drop "Mr Hit Miss" Sehwag ! Drop "Mr Hit Miss" Sehwag ! Drop "Mr Hit Miss" Sehwag! Bring any technically correct batsman.

    How pathetic IPL"stars" lost to "Australia A" side . Mark my word this IPL Bug will absolutely finish Indian Test and One day side.

  • on February 1, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    Plain and Simple: As of now, Australia has far better Cricketers than India - in quantity and quality. Lady luck is the only one who can, perhaps, help India on this tour. By the way, where is Duncan Fletcher, Eric Simons & the imports who are supposed to help the team? May be they are hiding, thinking that Lady luck doesn't like their faces! Hoping that in their "absence", she may come in and embrace the boys!

  • BowledYa on February 1, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    Boy, I have never heard more excuses than from this Indian team. What will be next? After the first test defeat I thought it will be a whitewash as the players have no confidence in themselves and lack desire to win. They will not win a single match in Australia. What I want to find out is what is the record of continuous losses by a team overseas and how close is India to it.

  • on February 1, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    Come on guys! this is our typical attitude wen india looses we are first to blame them either dhoni... situation is so pathetic makes sense but dont just throw words saying "dhoni is no more ....he is unlucky.,...he is unft for captain....." realax! even i m not fan of him. But lets boost him support him morally... may we can put some of our opinions.....hope if these ppl read it ....may guide them good.... here goes my opinion is to get IPathan to playing 11.. vinay need to be benched. rahane should give a chance ,,,,instead of an opener...big NO for Rahull....yet to play mature ininings to get into internationals....give a chance for Ojha..left sliders ll work out......

  • NSGD on February 1, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Dhoni, stop blaming the weather cause i woke up at 3:25 in the morning only to find out we are going with 2.5 spinners and 2 bowler both medium pacers (some how VK bowl some with pace of 135K) but still it was wrong decision by the team management to go with 2.5 slow bowler and not go with 3 fast bowlers. All i can say is i had a good sleep cause i went back to sleep after watching 4 overs.

  • on February 1, 2012, 16:32 GMT

    drop shewag and bring rahane. and try pathan for ashwin..

  • wiiCricket on February 1, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    I am baffled at how Indian fans treat their team after each loss and how they make them heroes after each win. The problem with Indian team lies in their bowling department. They simply don't have match winning bowlers (sorry but Z Khan is not as lethal as he is portrayed at times). Usually a team with strong batting puts the cushion for bowlers but with batsman not clicking their bowling disaster is now more evident than ever before. Bring in some good bowlers and you'll see how fortunes are changed but oh wait where art thou? ;-)

  • cricket_fan_1980 on February 1, 2012, 16:27 GMT

    No more excuses, please! Learn from the English who are so gracious in defeat this time round

  • Y2SJ on February 1, 2012, 16:12 GMT

    The main difference between the Indian team that was winning regularly and the current team is Gary Kirsten. With out him deciding the tactics and field setup, Dhoni is lost at sea. Fletcher leaves it to Dhoni and Dhoni leaves it to bowlers and bowlers leave it to the batsmen to throw away wickets. That is the main difference between someone like Ganguly or Dravid. They lead the team and Dhoni is just managing the resources.

  • unbiasedfan on February 1, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    oh don't worry the winning feeling will be back and all the batsman will score runs by the bucketfuls and the bowlers will become unplayable once they are back on home tracks and everything else will be forgotten as a bad dream - the sponsors will be happy, the telecasters will become even more garrulous and incoherent, the foolish fans will go delirious with vicarious pleasure and the players will go smiling all the way to the bank or their photo shoots (or is it same).

  • kulsatyen on February 1, 2012, 15:56 GMT

    It is indeed sad to see a World Champion team blame the losses on anything and everything except themselves. The first step towards improvement is accepting that something is amiss..

  • thinktank1 on February 1, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    I see a lot of comments about Irfan Pathan.. he was strictly average in Indian domestic matches. Australian batsmen on any given day in any conditions would hit him all over the ground. Forget irfan.. he is just like praveen kumar.. no pace, only little swing. He has to reinvent himself taking a long break. Wasim Akram was different with pace and swing to deceive the batsmen.

  • cricpolitics on February 1, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    Now blame the rain. Get these Indians out of Australia please. They still have the guts to keep coming up with excuses. They better need to get out of self denial and accept that they are a pathetic team.

  • on February 1, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    the current indian team will loose ,even if their batsmen have given 2 lifes per wicket

  • iluvcricinfo on February 1, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    Its time to drop Sehwag. He is not contributing anything to the team which is putting lot of pressure on others. We need a consistent partnership at the top. He plays once in a blue moon which is of no good to team cause. He is taking it easy bcos he feels his place in the team is safe..Drop him from 1 or 2 matches, then he will realize..

  • Lovetesh on February 1, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    I am surprised at the adamant behaviour in team selection. In the name of giving chances they are losing matches (without any remorse), losing pride (rather happily) and their credibility (infact they had already lost it). Pathan should have been there. Jadeja is useless in these conditions.

  • on February 1, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    men in blue bttr look out when the other men in blue land in aussieland,double trouble 4 india when SL join da party

  • PiyushD on February 1, 2012, 15:27 GMT

    bad team selection, the biggest problem is at top, the opening pair is hurting India a lot, its time to give Sehwag a break, ask Sachin to open with Gambhir since there is no reserve opener in the squad, also give chance to Pathan early. This has been failure not only at the skill level but management has failed to bring in any insight.

  • on February 1, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    Let us just stop expecting India to win now. Its a BAD team. Accept it. We should start thinking about how we can win in Zimbabwe now. (Zim is also overseas, no?)

  • jakigui on February 1, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    dont blame weather for da POOR performance by INDIA!!!

  • on February 1, 2012, 15:12 GMT

    Sehwag and Gambir at top are thoroughly useless...they are playing on their past reputation...it is time they are dropped from T20 and younger guys are played...with these two poor fielders...and poor runs at top not even Mike Bearley can win forget Dhoni

  • unregisteredalien on February 1, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Oh give me a break. It isn't some mystical recurring curse and blaming it on the rain is more pathetic than Milli Vanilli.

  • pritpalpabla on February 1, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    MSD and Indian team just want to finish this tour ASAP... I think Dhoni already said all the things in the press conf. which he prepared before boarding the plane to Aus... He don't have any more excuses.... Now BCCI should create a job position who will give team India new excuses after every defeat when ever India go overseas...

  • symsun on February 1, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    Drop at least Sehwag, if not Gambhir. Bring in Rahane. In crucial matches PK though seem to be bowling gud, he looses control 100% when needed at the death overs. Try Pathan for PK.

  • jonesy2 on February 1, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    moral of the story? australia are the world beaters again

  • jonesy2 on February 1, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    rain played a part? haha i think only australia's awesomeness played a part

  • rahulcricket007 on February 1, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    WELL RAHUL WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE . OKK THE MAIN FAILURE IS OUR OPENING PARTNERSHIP . WE NEED TO DROP SEHWAG .

  • Raggie on February 1, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    The selection of the 11 is atrocious, i dont know whats with dhoni in picking up Irfan when any other captain would have picked him , it clearly suggest that there is something personal in between them, he always keeps ignoring him. When they pick up R sharma they should have picked irfan either in place of vinay or jadeja. he is better than both of them in terms of batting and bowling .

  • on February 1, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    Blaming it on the conditions is RIDICULOUS!!! The Aussies had the tougher time with the rain today for god's sake! It goes without saying that a side should always bowl first after rain. That's because the outfield is so damp the ball simply won't travel. Despite smashing many balls, Aus didn't get that much 4s bcz of the outfield! And after the rain break, we lost all the momentum we built up and lost Wade! When the Indians were batting, the ball was sizzling through the outfield since it had dried! And talking about balls spinning - didn't Gambhir say they are masters of rank turners?

  • ushakiran on February 1, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    LOL...........hey dhoni ur luck was gone buddy....try to make some pooja to ur fav. god

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  • ushakiran on February 1, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    LOL...........hey dhoni ur luck was gone buddy....try to make some pooja to ur fav. god

  • on February 1, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    Blaming it on the conditions is RIDICULOUS!!! The Aussies had the tougher time with the rain today for god's sake! It goes without saying that a side should always bowl first after rain. That's because the outfield is so damp the ball simply won't travel. Despite smashing many balls, Aus didn't get that much 4s bcz of the outfield! And after the rain break, we lost all the momentum we built up and lost Wade! When the Indians were batting, the ball was sizzling through the outfield since it had dried! And talking about balls spinning - didn't Gambhir say they are masters of rank turners?

  • Raggie on February 1, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    The selection of the 11 is atrocious, i dont know whats with dhoni in picking up Irfan when any other captain would have picked him , it clearly suggest that there is something personal in between them, he always keeps ignoring him. When they pick up R sharma they should have picked irfan either in place of vinay or jadeja. he is better than both of them in terms of batting and bowling .

  • rahulcricket007 on February 1, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    WELL RAHUL WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE . OKK THE MAIN FAILURE IS OUR OPENING PARTNERSHIP . WE NEED TO DROP SEHWAG .

  • jonesy2 on February 1, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    rain played a part? haha i think only australia's awesomeness played a part

  • jonesy2 on February 1, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    moral of the story? australia are the world beaters again

  • symsun on February 1, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    Drop at least Sehwag, if not Gambhir. Bring in Rahane. In crucial matches PK though seem to be bowling gud, he looses control 100% when needed at the death overs. Try Pathan for PK.

  • pritpalpabla on February 1, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    MSD and Indian team just want to finish this tour ASAP... I think Dhoni already said all the things in the press conf. which he prepared before boarding the plane to Aus... He don't have any more excuses.... Now BCCI should create a job position who will give team India new excuses after every defeat when ever India go overseas...

  • unregisteredalien on February 1, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Oh give me a break. It isn't some mystical recurring curse and blaming it on the rain is more pathetic than Milli Vanilli.

  • on February 1, 2012, 15:12 GMT

    Sehwag and Gambir at top are thoroughly useless...they are playing on their past reputation...it is time they are dropped from T20 and younger guys are played...with these two poor fielders...and poor runs at top not even Mike Bearley can win forget Dhoni