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Australia have smaller talent pool - Greg Chappell

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April 14, 2011

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Simon Katich and Michael Hussey take a single, India v Australia, 4th Test, Nagpur, 2nd day, November 7, 2008
The Test team could do with the services of Simon Katich and Michael Hussey while they remained "viable" Greg Chappell said © AFP
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Greg Chappell, Cricket Australia's national talent manager, has said, on returning from a "reconnaissance exercise" to the US, that Australia do not have as large a talent pool for cricket as some other countries, and hence have to be careful not to waste any of the talent they have. He said the key for Australian cricket was giving young players enough opportunities so they develop mental strength early. Chappell and four other Cricket Australia officials had visited the US to study the functioning of two American teams - the Boston Red Sox and the University of Texas football team - and explore, among other things, the way they identified and nurtured talented players.

"We're not like India, we can't waste talent," Chappell told the Sydney Morning Herald. "They can have a few fall over and there will be someone there backing them up, but we don't have the talent pool they have, so we have to be a lot more efficient.

"You might have ten players at the end of the under-19 programme, but we need to get the majority of those guys through to the next level. How does a player develop mental toughness? You develop mental toughness in the heat of the battle; nobody has come up with any other way.

"That means we have to work with the states to make sure that if we have identified these players, they get opportunities in all formats over the next few years, which can sometimes counter what the state thinks is important for them."

The Test team, he said, could use the services of the three senior statesmen, Ricky Ponting, Michael Hussey and Simon Katich, but only so long as their selection remains "viable", with them scoring runs and guiding the transitional team. "They are mature cricketers, they know what the landscape is and that they can't play forever. As long as they can bring something to the table, not only the runs or wickets, but the input they can have with the group, they are viable.

"We've got a new captain [Michael Clarke]. Change isn't just about personnel, it's about attitude and intent and about tactics, and I'm sure Michael will bring different thought processes to the captaincy. That is a positive thing. I don't think we need to make wholesale changes to see regeneration within the team."

Shane Watson, Australia's new vice-captain, should remain in the opener's slot, Chappell said. "We need players who are going to help us win games, and Shane Watson opening the batting can help us win games. [His bowling] also gives the flexibility to play an extra spinner in Sri Lanka or an extra pace bowler in South Africa."

Chappell, who took over Australia's captaincy from elder brother Ian in the '70s and then had his sibling play under him, said Clarke and Ponting should be able work around the rather awkward scenario of a team containing its former leader. "The one that is stepping down has to be conscious of the fact he is no longer in charge. I was fortunate [with Ian], I leaned on his experience and I am sure there were times when he had to bite his tongue and wait for me to either ask questions or wake up. I am sure there will be such times for Michael and Ricky as well, but they will work it out."

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Posted by crusty52 on (April 16, 2011, 6:11 GMT)

There are a numerous intelligent young cricketers in Australia that are forced to make a career choice that offers them opportunity and financial security - and its rarely cricket! Why? Because the people left to coach and run the game in Australia are generally those that have nothing but cricket in their lives and have no skills for anything else.. and worse seem to have also failed in other pursuits. They value people like themselves - basically dud humans! Does this sound like one GC? The current COE, CA and state coaches as well as their so-called 'talent identifier' blokes wouldn't know talent if they fell over it.

Posted by Meety on (April 16, 2011, 4:34 GMT)

@Dr.Qwert - re: Watto at 34, young bloke by the name of Armstrong playing for NSW T20, I think he & maybe Abbott (also NSW), could fill that role.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (April 15, 2011, 12:03 GMT)

Darren Berry ... Good one! My stomach still hurts after that one. Anyway I think players should be picked on form, not on the form they might have in 5 years. Picking Smith at no6 in Tests is a slap in the face to about 15 Shield batsmen around the country. I do not dislike Smith, I would like him to succeed at international level when he deserves selection. He or Beer or any other unjustified pick should not get a baggygreen at the expense at another player in better form. It cannot be good for team morale when a selectors-pet keeps getting a game (and a healthy pay-packet) when others more deserving are missing out. Having said all this, cricket is so corrupt now, it makes you wander why certain baffling things continue to happen.

Posted by Meety on (April 15, 2011, 10:41 GMT)

@Gordo85 - LOL! Are you saying Darren Berry should of got a go ahead of Adam Gilchrest???? Please!!!!! @VivGilchrist - Watto is an interesting dilemna. In ODIs his average as opener balloons to 64 when batting 2nd. This is because he feels the need to conserve energy when batting first for his bowling. I think Watto's mind needs some fine tuning! @BombaWiggins - mate the old NSW conspiracy hey? Given it been quite a while since NSW even had a national selector it still makes for a good whinge. Believe it or not, but NSW is the strongest state for playing talent. @SeaforthA1 - I agree that in TESTS the best XI need to be selected, & Punter & Huss are in that XI IMO. I do believe we wasted an opportunity to blood players in that tour of Bang. I'd only have taken Pup, Watto, Smith, Pattinson, Paine & Ferguson, (maybe Doherty), from that squad. I'm not against the older players that went, just not for that tour.

Posted by hyclass on (April 15, 2011, 10:07 GMT)

Im very surprised to read Chappells' comments on the depth of talent.I recall being inspired 20 years ago by an article he wrote in which he is quoted as saying that,'It is not practice that makes perfect,but perfect practice'.Statistics suggest that there are 60 Indians for every Australian.If we only looked at population,we would give up before we began.Quality is the only important factor.Regardless of population,only eleven men each get to walk on the field and face each other.I strongly disagree with his assertion that India have better depth.Where are their great pace bowlers and spinners.Their bowling attack is no more than adequate and their batting is excellent but aging.Australias depth of talent is also excellent.The administration of that talent on the other hand has been terrible.Chappell doesnt need to reinvent the wheel.Australia has been renowned for 2 decades for the quality of its cricketing system.That system only requires leaders who can administer it with integrity

Posted by hyclass on (April 15, 2011, 9:50 GMT)

The philisophical mistake being made is that age is ever a factor.Youth or maturity must never be of greater importance than runs and wickets.It is 4 years of theories such as these,taking the place of form and facts,that have driven australia to their current lows.Players with excellent records have continued to languish in 1st class ranks without explanation and others have been used or instructed divisively or inappropriately.Great teams are great because their players are performing in a united fashion with a common sense of purpose and systemic integrity.In turn,those who wish to make the team lift their own standards to new levels creating reserve strength.This natural progression has been hopelessly undermined by the current administration who continue the habit of reckless selection and spiteful omission.Our systems are excellent.Our state cricket as strong as ever.Our pitches are as testing as the weather allows their preparation to be.Runs,wickets and accountability win games

Posted by   on (April 15, 2011, 7:14 GMT)

For once I agree with GC the young players need to develop mental toughness and to do that they need to be playing against the best players in the land. However, even if State selectors do pick some of these guys, unless test players are playing State cricket against them regularly the young guys will only be playing against the also rans and each other and won't experience how hard it is at the next level. We need a full review of grade , state and test committments to make this happen and I doubt CA or the coaches have the will to make it happen

Posted by _Australian_ on (April 15, 2011, 6:30 GMT)

I think CA should have a long hard look at their selction of people for admin positions. Chappell seems to be making excuses already. He is already been reported as saying that the older players should move aside and is hinting so again. Sorry but I am a strong believer in picking the best 11 players in the country regardless of age. The most efficent way of blooding talent is by not playing them till they are 100% ready. Not thrown to the wolves at a young age. M Hussey, M Hayden, J Langer, D Martyn, D Lehman all had to wait there turn to represent their country and all of them did well when given the chance. It takes an exceptional talent to perform at a young age. Too many players have come in young to only fail. Hughes and Smith both made their Test apperances too early for my liking. Players need to prove themselves over several years at state level before making the jump. Unless they are overwhelmingly better than the incumbent why take that risk.

Posted by Dr.Qwert on (April 15, 2011, 6:28 GMT)

The test team i think this 'small talent pool' will produce in 5 years: Nic Maddinson, S. Marsh / Hughes, Usman Khawaja, Michael Clarke, Shane Watson, Chris Lynn, Paine / Wade, Beer / O'Keefe / Holland / Smith, Peter Siddle, Pattinson / Copeland / Faulkner, Patrick Cummins to me that looks like a very strong team from such a 'small talent pool'. the depth we've always had for pace bowling is just about the envy of world cricket, we'll have 3 or 4 very good openners in the afore mentioned & Mitch Marsh. 2 keepers that are young & already making big impressions we have a system that is prduces a good pool of talent & a very strong state comp. only wholes i see in that side is Shane Watson will be 34 with no apparent batting alrounder & the spin options are suspect. although 5 years is a long time for someone to come onto the scene.

Posted by MinusZero on (April 15, 2011, 5:50 GMT)

@Something_Witty. Nethertheless, i stand by what i say that he would be of more value in the middle order.

Posted by cricketik on (April 15, 2011, 5:27 GMT)

Coming to the reserve pool of indian cricketers , the picture is not that great. Batsmen,no doubt, the Pujaras, Rainas, Kohlis, Rohits and a few under19 players and they keep coming..... The problem is with the Bowling Departments. When there were no fast bowlers , lot of effort nd money ahs been pumped in and we had Zaheer, Munaf, Ishant and Praveen but can not see anyone who is close to them. Worrying thing is the Spin Department. In domestic cricket no one to back up Harbhajan. Even Bhajji is not at his best. Amit mishra, Rahul sharma, Prgnan Ojha with due respect not the world class. Anil Kumble and people like him must start a special academy for grooming spinners. Wicket keepers are nowadays more of batsmen. Karthik has been out of form with his keeping eversince he played as a batrsmen. Dhoni has never been a great keeper though he is a good batsmen and has dropped so many sitters but he is good at stumpings. Hope India develops good pool of spinners and keepers.

Posted by Something_Witty on (April 15, 2011, 4:05 GMT)

MinusZero you are rather incorrect in your assessment of Watson. Yes he has only passed 100 twice, but he also has a 97, a 96, a 95, a 93 and an 89. All but one of these scores was made in a WINNING cause. If that's not winning matches opening the innings, I don't know what is. More hundreds will come for Watson, and soon they will come thick and fast.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (April 15, 2011, 1:26 GMT)

Please dump Greg Chappell immediately. He sank Indian cricket and he is going to sink Australian cricket too. Why not get some of the people from our amazing team into the selection panel? Matthew Hayden, Adam Gilchrist, Shane Warne, Glenn McGrath, for examples. I am sure that they could find talent and know how to get the most out of players.

Posted by Masud_BITK on (April 15, 2011, 1:03 GMT)

Greg, I am again. Please don't throw out of Ricky, Simon, Hussy, etc. for welcoming new bloods. It is always better to prolong their career and let youngsters play and learn from them. Kawaja is coming, so as Phil. They should play with seniors as long seniors can perform. Don't think they are old but gold. I am afraid that Simon is on high risk to kick him out of the team, if he plays few matches bad. Phil hughes played terrible for many matches, he still deserve chances, I am on him. Similarly, Simon also deserves some chances at this age but not too many. Many of Aussie players have been wasted in AU, such as Cullum Ferguson, he should have picked long time ago. He needs more chances, beautiful players, so as Nannes.

Posted by MinusZero on (April 14, 2011, 23:49 GMT)

Australian selectors need to have the guts to give these young players a go instead of sticking with the veterans for so long. Look what happened when they kept McGrath and Warne for so long without blooding young talent. The bowling has gone to the dogs. The same will happen with the batting. Fresh players will be brought in right at the end and will need years to develop enough to play at test level. I also disagree with Watson staying at opener. Chappell said "We need players who are going to help us win games, and Shane Watson opening the batting can help us win games". I dont really see where he is coming from. He would be better off strengthening the middle order. As an example, in 36 opening innings he has only passed 100 twice, the improving Tamim Iqbal has done it 4 times in the same amount of innings. They need a player at the top that can pass three figures more than twice in 19 tests. Where is Hayden and Langer when you need them.

Posted by bobagorof on (April 14, 2011, 23:47 GMT)

I agree with wix99. The 3 match ODI tour was the perfect opportunity to blood some younger players. No point in trying to find form with anyone at this stage - the next series is months away and form will change in that time. But having a look at a couple of new faces who might be regulars in the side in 2-3 years would have been worthwhile. But I DO find it interesting to hear that it's policy to pick the team from the under-19s, and those guys get a favoured ride throughout their careers. It's been obvious that certain players are the selectors' darlings despite performances - sometimes it works out (like Watson), other times not (North) - while others are ignored. How about picking on form and performance, as well as potential? George, Copeland, Hazlewood, Cosgrove, Lynn, Christian, Khawaja, Bailey are good young players who deserve a chance. Hopefully Hauritz will be back in the team now Ponting isn't captain. Move Watto down to 4 and play Hughes now he finally found some form.

Posted by BartSimpson01 on (April 14, 2011, 23:05 GMT)

"We're not like India, we can't waste talent" ... Really, just like you did when u were the head coach of India!!!

Posted by PYC1959 on (April 14, 2011, 22:24 GMT)

THE TALENT POOL AT THE TOP IS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS................. MAYBE WE SHOULD INTRODUCE SOME YOUNGER PERSONNEL THERE WHO ARE MORE IN TOUCH WITH THE MODERN GAME.

Posted by Masud_BITK on (April 14, 2011, 21:24 GMT)

I like Chappel because he is a straight talker and he talks like a nonpolitical or non aussie person. However, his view and/vision is quite poor to forcast anything about crciket. From this article, he compared Australian talent pool vs India. This is like comparing an apple with an orange. India has 1.3b people and 95% of them like cricket. In AU, we have only 200m people, among, less than 20% of them like cricket. However, the quality AU can produce much better than India comparing with population vs number. Mr. Chappel should concentrate on state cricket rather looking at India or US Footie. We are reducing kids to play cricket in AU. It requires to be developed asap.

Posted by timtom on (April 14, 2011, 18:56 GMT)

Mr.GREG ..u r the man..Be at helm of ACB for another 2 yrs and complete the destruction...Really an audacious statement of SMALL POOL in AUSTRALIA..underestimating the very system that needs a transition...What was Ricky,hussey and Johson doing in Bangladesh ? Was`nt it the right time to bleed at least 5 youngsters from SMALL TALENT POOL....Well u had a chance to handle a large pool of talent as Indian COACH and result was there for everybody to see... Destroyed careers of Ganguly.Irfan ,,drop in Sachin`s form by keeping him at no.4..So handling smaller pool is really difficult...Personally i wud like u to continue with ACB (whose members have brain freezed) and make AUSTRALIA as NO 1 team among associate nations in next two yrs....NO 1 never the less..

Posted by milepost on (April 14, 2011, 18:39 GMT)

Sanjeev_Talwani you are having a laugh! Importing "Pakistani player Usman Khwaja for instance"??? His family immigrated to Australia when he was three. He wasn't selected as a three year old. Thanks to Marty McFly for the information collected from the time machine 20+ years ago! If you can't say something intelligent, just don't post anything that's a really poorly thought out response.

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 18:25 GMT)

First time CHAPPEL is spot on ......Aus missed Gilly as opener Diemen Martin & Symonds in the middle and Shane Warne as a spin bowler all these could play WC 2011 but Aussie selectors pressed them for retirement............If murali could play in WC2011 Warney surely could play.................SA needed experienced Gibbs in middle order. ...........................Keep building teams for future on & on and keep losing in present on & on.............great strategy.......They plant a tree.....when it is fully blossomed and begins to give fruit they cut it it is a pity................nonesense..................Dhoni didn't falter and kept Sachin....Sachin delivered and Dhoni succeded............Sanga kept Murali but dropped Jayasuria and he reached finals but failed there...........Legends are not born every day.they are a few in billions. they are the true big game players ..... you must value them when you have them

Posted by Sanjeev_Talwani on (April 14, 2011, 17:20 GMT)

I totally agree with Chappell. While Australia is running so short of talented cricketers that it is now importing foreign players (Pakistani player Usman Khwaja for instance), young Indian talents like Cheeteswar Pujara, Manish Pandey, Murali Vijay and Paul Valthaty are not getting a chance to play in the Indian national team because its already brimming with talent.

Posted by Biso on (April 14, 2011, 14:32 GMT)

Greg Chappel might as well fool himself but sadly he is out to fool all Aussie cricket fans.The selctors should have blooded a few fresh talents against BD or at least few of those who are on the sidelines , pehaps waiting eternally for a test call.If this isnt a waste of talent , then i do not know what is.

Posted by soumyas on (April 14, 2011, 14:22 GMT)

@Hoggy_1989, not every time it will be waste, travelling over the world and watching others will definitely open a different dimensions of thinking for anything be it sport or culture or science, if you have not experienced in your life, just travel to different country and experience....

Posted by soumyas on (April 14, 2011, 14:14 GMT)

But still Australia have fared really good in cricket over last 20 years, your thinking perfectly suits england rather that Australia, england cricket team need to find some fresh,young cricketers who have natural ability....and ur sentence "We're not like India, we can't waste talent" is a msg to BCCI, in spite of winning world cup they still have wasted players like Uthappa and rohit sharma. Even ashwin wasn't given fare chances in world cup, players like piyush chawla,Nehra don't have ability but somehow they find place in team,

Posted by Percy_Fender on (April 14, 2011, 14:07 GMT)

It is odd that the last young player who was marked for greatness in Australian cricket was Ricky Ponting. Michael Clarke came through but was never expected to be a great. This could be because players who are very good do not get the recognition that may be due to them when they are in their teens. This lack of recognition is perhaps illustrated in the selection of someone like Mike Hussey late in life. This may be understandable considering that Hussey's salad cricket years coincided with some 'irreplacables' in Australian cricket like Hayden Langer,the Waugh brothers Martyn and so on.I feel that these days talent is not being noticed in Australia as they should be.There seems to be a longing in the selectors as with their people that such and such is the next Warne or Magrath. These players were once in a lifetime types and they too did not get a rosy baptism. The sad part is that a decent spin bowler like Hauritz is being kept away in the hope that another Warne is around.

Posted by jonesy2 on (April 14, 2011, 13:46 GMT)

this is a joke isnt it? chappells having a laugh??? australia have theee most talent in state teams around the country. like rugby in NZ.

Posted by sandhusaab on (April 14, 2011, 13:34 GMT)

nt sure what he means by we are nt like india

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 13:16 GMT)

Dan christian seems a bit neglected , he can bat and score Very fast, he can bowl, he can field, he is young...yet smith gets all the opportunities because australia want a SPINNING allrounder, there too fussy and need to pick based on qaulity not trying to fill certain roles with players who arent good enuf to fill these roles. also out with greg chappel he's an idiot he is gonna ruin australia just like he ruined india with blooding younger and worse players...as soon as india dropped chappel and recalled senior batsman in the test side they went to number 1.

Posted by drinks.break on (April 14, 2011, 13:05 GMT)

@ BombaWiggins 11:45am, there is no factual basis at all to say that NSW is favoured above the rest. If you take the last test series (Ashes), and count the players involved by state according to the state they were playing for when they were FIRST PICKED for Australia, then 6 out of 19 were from NSW (31.6%). Given that NSW has 32.6% of Australia's population, that proportion is as close as possible to exactly what it should be. The states that are truly over-represented in the national team, based on state population, are WA (21.1% of the team v 10.1% of the population) and, by a huge margin, Tas (15.8% of the team v 2.4% of the population). The "underperforming" states are Qld (15.8% of team v 20.0% of pop.) and, by a huge margin, Vic (5.3% of team v 25.5% of pop.) - SA, like NSW, is about right. Why is Tas so over-represented and Vic so under-represented? No idea for Tas; for Vic it's probably because of their AFL obsession, which takes the cream of athletes away from other sports.

Posted by Salim_123 on (April 14, 2011, 12:57 GMT)

I agree with wix99. Players like ponting, hussey should not have been sent. You could have played Callum Ferguson, Dan Christian, Usman Khwaja and Shaun Marsch. They are players for tomorow. Similarly Bret Lee should have been rested and instead sent upcoming bowlers. If these talents are not given an opportunity against Bangladesh than against whom. The tour though was completey useless could have been ideal platform for upcoming players. Please do give Usman Shaun , Ferguson a chance. You won't have Husseys and Pontings for long.

Posted by Victorian-Roo on (April 14, 2011, 12:53 GMT)

I know dat we were in a similar situation in the 80s where Border had to play alongside lesser talented individuals. Thanks to our strong system, we managed to produce some excellent domineering cricketers. However, I'm afraid, this may not be the case this time. Twenty20 is gonna consume the country's talent. Money is important come what may! Too much money is being thrown around and more importantly you don't even need to be that talented to earn those bucks. People are prioritizing money over country pride. Look at Warner/Tait. If the next gen get a taste of T20 from a young age then they will start looking at playing the sport for financial reasons and not for performance or pride. The attitude is changing in Australian Cricket and one can sense it. We certainly don't have the population we'd like and a county system like the Poms where some of our guys can earn good money just by playing Tests. I reckon we may not be able to come out of current slump in a long, long time.

Posted by indianzen on (April 14, 2011, 12:02 GMT)

Empty vessels makes much noise... Indians are not stoppable in any aspects in the world...

Posted by King-Cobra on (April 14, 2011, 11:58 GMT)

The primary problem with ACB is that they think too much. They should first downsize the management panel, particularly those who are not getting used to modern day cricket, and spend the funds on finding more talents.

Posted by ygkd on (April 14, 2011, 11:52 GMT)

"You might have 10 players at the end of the U19 programme" - what planet is this statement from? One of the reasons AFL kills cricket stone dead is that is has 40 players each per 16 teams and it now is adding 2 more teams. Result? More players needed so the 20-24 bracket is now being rescrutinised. And surprise, surpise, they'll probably find some of these useless failed rejects from the 4 State competitions and the country leagues will actually, once given a chance, be better than the 19 year olds. Not everyone develops at the same age and some youngsters are just over-rated. I used to wonder why the Indians disliked Greg Chappell so much. Thanks for answering this question.

Posted by BombaWiggins on (April 14, 2011, 11:45 GMT)

Maybe our current setup is at fault, we have a tradition of favouring players from New South Wales, if your a talented player from the other states you have the odds against selection into the national side. On a side note, well done Bangladesh. ACB don't start patting yourselves on the back over the series win, carrying on with your business and usual attitude. This attitude has lost us almost every trophy we ever had, and tumbling out of the World Cup should have WAKE UP screaming at you in bright neon lights with klaxon horns blaring.

Posted by wix99 on (April 14, 2011, 11:17 GMT)

I think the selectors made a mistake selecting Ponting, M Hussey and Brett Lee to tour Bangladesh. Sure they performed well but the tour should have been used to give some younger players a chance. Usman Khawaja, Shaun Marsh and Dan Christian are a few of the players who should have been playing against Bangladesh.

Posted by cricmatters on (April 14, 2011, 10:58 GMT)

@abhi_cricinfo Your comment is spot on. Australian Selectors are part of the problem. They keep giving endless rope to no hopers and keep the real talent on the bench for too long. So far they were winning so no one asked any quesions. Now suddenly they need to go to USA of the all the places to learn about the basics of picking a team.

Posted by Willowarriers on (April 14, 2011, 10:55 GMT)

Ahah. So when exactly did Greg Chappell stumble upon this discovery? Noone else seems to who have come up with this before. Did the pool shrink in the last 4-5 years since the retirement of the Aussie big guns? There wasn't much talk in the air about paucity of talent earlier. Indeed, if Aus had won the WC I doubt very much if this would have been the proferred justification for the U.S. trip.

Lage raho Greg Chappell! Nice textbook explanation to justify the expenses!

Posted by Nerk on (April 14, 2011, 10:49 GMT)

Laughing at Greg Chappell. Australian cricket has done pretty well over the last hundred and so years with a "small talent pool" without having to go to the US and not just in cricket. We Aussies are getting better in soccer, been brilliant in Rugby and always competative in the Olympics. Hell, if American football wasn't such a stupid sport we'd beat the US at that as well. I agree with a number of people on this site and say the problem is not our players, but our selectors and board.

Posted by abhi_cricinfo on (April 14, 2011, 10:40 GMT)

@Rajeev129 : Actually I am opposite to Sir Greg. Everybody waste talents (knowingly and unknowingly) but in case of India we don't produce talents (bowling one's especially). In case of Australia they don't expose talents. This is old habit of both nations. But what is India doing in this article , this is about Australia. Even the article is under "Australia news" section. This is greatness of Sir Greg.

Posted by wambling_future on (April 14, 2011, 10:33 GMT)

"You develop mental toughness in the heat of the battle; nobody has come up with any other way." Australia need somebody mentally tough to dump him.

Posted by suhail.padiyath on (April 14, 2011, 10:30 GMT)

@abhi_cricinfo: u got Greg Chappel wrong....he meant that Australia can't afford to waste talent because they have limited no. of talented personnel.....whereas India has abundance of cricketing talent and so. "They can have a few fall over and there will be someone there backing them up, but we don't have the talent pool they have, so we have to be a lot more efficient." This is what he said.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (April 14, 2011, 10:13 GMT)

@abhi, I agree, however when you consider how england were slated as being disrepectful on by various boards and some posters, when they rested key players against BD its understandable. However, those players were significantly out of form during the ashes, with the exception of Hussey, and so its best to use BD to get the players into form.

Posted by samin1 on (April 14, 2011, 10:01 GMT)

I am not sure that Greg Chappels ideas have much credibility - we saw how he disrupted the India team in the 2007 WC and how with larger the same base of players under better management they ended up being 2011 champions

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (April 14, 2011, 9:58 GMT)

Dan da man Christian needs to be in the team in all formats pronto. Failure to do so is idiocy at its highest level. He is young, fit and one of the best players in the country, if not THE best.

Posted by Indianbeast on (April 14, 2011, 9:45 GMT)

seriously who has brains and power to dump this goose in a BIN- the quicker Australians will do will help them rebuild.

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 9:37 GMT)

What then hell. They are the most talented team. They can create 5 national teams each state player is capable of playing for the country. THey should do what they do best. That is not blooding youngsters as an Indian team or Asia team does. They believe in experienced players playing . Hussey made his debut at the age of 32 so think about. THey are lookin at perfection rather than immediate glory as India is doing. India can never achieve the consistenc as an australian team as. Will an Australian team be happy with that sort of success nooooooooooooo

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 9:36 GMT)

The smartest thing Greg Chappell has said in the past 4 years. But a bit of a loose cannon statement - he does't realize that the approach of leading teams and organizations has moved away from "Cooper, scrub that bloody deck so hard I should be able to see my face in it" It's why his stint as coach in India was a failure and why he's not able to inspire confidence in his current role. Making players insecure, even by stating the obvious is not the best way to inspire great results

Posted by Dr.Qwert on (April 14, 2011, 9:34 GMT)

why does anyone care what the chappels say? they're relics of a bygone age who have lost all touch. to say India can waste their talent is rediculous, they've got the most out of their guns like tendulkar, Dravid, Laxmann, Sehwag & are giving players a go now as abhi outlined. australia wasted talent right throughout the golden era. Bevan wasn't given a real go in tests as they didn't care to develope his weakness, was 1 of the best batsmen australia ever produced & was overlooked. Brad Hodge played 6 tests, cant argue with his results averaging 55 & they dropped him as they said his technique was too loose... left in Symonds however proving it was a popularity contest. & still wasting talent, Marsh hasn't played a test yet including being overlooked for the out of form Hughes when bringing someone in. Wade hasn't even been looked at. Copeland wasn't mentioned by a selector with a misfiring attack during the ashes. Hauritz was ostracized after a bad series against india.

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 9:32 GMT)

It's ingenious of Cricket Australia to study other sports' teams to decide the outcome of their own cricket teams. It's difficult to see the rationale behind it. Games like Baseball and Basketball have seasons, larger coaches, bigger access to athletes and a much more rigid and well established system of players coming through. Not to mention they play a lot more in a lot shorter period of time a year. CA needs to use games such as Bangladesh and early WC matches to rest the Pontings and Husseys and give more exposure to the Hodges and Cosgroves a chance at top level cricket. It is unclear to see where Greg Chappell is coming from as Australia has always had one of the most established cricket systems in the world. A smaller talent pool just seems like a convenient excuse to not find adequate replacements for the aging stars in the current team.

Posted by JasonG_123 on (April 14, 2011, 9:23 GMT)

This is ridiculous, Australia has as good a talent pool as any other test playing nation. The problem is with the administration - the selectors and coach.

Posted by mikehunt27 on (April 14, 2011, 9:16 GMT)

abhi_cricinfo before you burst out silly comments again perhaps re-read Chappell's quote. He is not implying that India has wasted talent.. he is saying that they have an enormous pool of talent whereas Australia do not.

Posted by Sl_Kid15 on (April 14, 2011, 9:12 GMT)

@abhi_cricinfo i think he means that India can afford to use different players on a regular basis as a population over 1billion who love cricket supports that. In Australia a population around 22 million whose love for cricket is in decline, means they have to identify with talent and 'blood them'. i don't think he was criticising India.

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 9:00 GMT)

Typical Greag Chappel Talk. Coining some words and at the end it doesnt mean anything. e.g. words like "viable".

Posted by Rajeev129 on (April 14, 2011, 8:55 GMT)

@abhi_cricinfo: Mr. Abhi we could not understand, are u in favour of Aus or India ?

Posted by Something_Witty on (April 14, 2011, 8:37 GMT)

Well this is rather like stating the obvious.... India = 1 billion people. Aus = 20 million people. Why does this require a trip to the US to suss out?

Posted by PYC1959 on (April 14, 2011, 8:12 GMT)

I hope Chappell paid his own way on this trip as I fail to see why you need to go to USA to discover something about Australia !!!!!!! If this is the sort of rubbish that he was employed to do then Heaven help Australian Cricket in the future. Of course Ricky and Clarkey will work it out, my guess is that they already have. Get on with the job you are paid to do.................

Posted by dsig3 on (April 14, 2011, 8:06 GMT)

Blooding young players early is not the only answer. I agree that we have a small talent pool but rushing in players is not going to make them any better. Alot of our best players matured in state cricket. I dont mind doing it but we dont want to end up fielding youth teams like Pakistan used to and get bowled out for peanuts.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (April 14, 2011, 8:05 GMT)

I agree Hoggy. I'm starting to believe the Indians in thinking Chappel isn't as good as he thinks he is. As for Watto, he is made for no4 (aka Kallis) allowing Clarke to bat at his more suited no5. Opening with Watson, as consistent as he has been, does put a strain on his all-round talent and also his batting past 50runs. They should be maximizing his talents while he is fit and able.

Posted by Gordo85 on (April 14, 2011, 8:02 GMT)

In other words Mike Hussey and the older players are just playing for themselves. Like all ways the older players are going to block the young good players Australia has which is a shame,they should be shown a chance to shine like Cullen Bailey who has not even been given a chance to show what he has got. Not only that but he has a better First Class bowling average than Smith and also Bailey is no mug with the bat. This is one of the reasons why in 1999 I gave up following for Australia because all the players that deserve a chance to play for them never do and it makes me sick just like Darren Berry and that was the icing on the cake for me.

Posted by   on (April 14, 2011, 8:00 GMT)

There he goes pontificating again!

Posted by abhi_cricinfo on (April 14, 2011, 7:43 GMT)

"We're not like India, we can't waste talent" Greg Chappell at his best. We gave chance to talents like Murali Vijay , Abhimanyu mithun , Cheteswar Pujara , Saurabh Tiwary , Naman Ojha , Shikhar Dhawan , Jaidev Unadkat , Piush Chawala (played in WC 2011) ,etc . All of these talents got chances against opposition like South Africa , Sri Lanka , Australia and New Zealand in span of 2 years. They are not out of radar either. Australia don't have courage to play against Bangladesh without Hussey , Watto , Punter , Lee , Clarke and Mitchell Johnson. A player named Brad Hodge was sidelined for no reason. Mark Cosgrove is going to repeat Hodge. Australia produce more Fast Bowler and Batsmen than any other country produce.

Posted by Hoggy_1989 on (April 14, 2011, 7:37 GMT)

They needed to go to the US to learn that? You could have paid me 1/10 of what they spent on that trip and I would have told them the same thing! Irresponsible waste of money that...and all for nothing.

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