Australia news August 7, 2012

Spin focus at pre-season camp

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No fewer than eight spin bowlers have been rounded up to take part in Australia's pre-season camp in Darwin from Wednesday, ahead of trips to the UAE, Sri Lanka and India over the coming year.

Nathan Hauritz, Jason Krejza, Michael Beer, Cameron Boyce and Steve O'Keefe will join those slow bowlers already selected for the matches against Afghanistan and Pakistan, which include Xavier Doherty, Brad Hogg and the Victorian allrounder Glenn Maxwell. Nathan Lyon and Jon Holland are absent due to the concurrent Australia A tour of England.

The national team's planners have also spent time in discussion with the Marrara Oval curator John Furner, directing him to prepare training surfaces as similar as possible to those expected in the UAE and Sri Lanka.

Beyond the home summer lies a four-Test series in India, and the national selectors are also thought to be keen to assess their options apart from Lyon.

"We've got a couple of important series coming up, in the UAE against Pakistan and Afghanistan, as well as the ICC World Twenty20 in Sri Lanka in September and after a disappointing series in England recently we feel this is a great opportunity to really put in some good preparation ahead of our next tours," the Australia coach Mickey Arthur said.

"We're expecting dry, turning and slower pitches in the UAE and also in Sri Lanka so we have a real spin-bowling focus on the next week in Darwin with both our training and matches

"The Marrara Oval curator is preparing net and centre wicket conditions similar to those we're going to face in the UAE and in Sri Lanka so our spin bowlers can get some good practice in, while our batsmen can also get accustomed to playing in those conditions."

The young New South Wales batsman Nic Maddinson is another notable invitee to the camp from outside the list of CA contracted players, while Mitch Marsh has also been included following his dumping from the Centre of Excellence last month for disciplinary reasons.

Camp participants

CA contracted and UAE tour squad: George Bailey, Dan Christian, Michael Clarke, Pat Cummins, Xavier Doherty, Callum Ferguson, Brad Haddin, Ryan Harris, Ben Hilfenhaus, Brad Hogg, David Hussey, Michael Hussey, Glenn Maxwell, Clint McKay, James Pattinson, Ricky Ponting, Peter Siddle, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade, David Warner, Shane Watson, Cameron White

Non-CA contracted: Michael Beer, Cameron Boyce, Nathan Hauritz, Jason Krejza, Nic Maddinson, Stephen O'Keefe, Mitch Marsh

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Auscricketfan on August 10, 2012, 2:09 GMT

    This is a great idea considering we have a test series in India, the One day tour in the UAE and the T20 world cup, but i could never understand the decsion to drop Nathan Hauritz before the 1st test against the Poms in the last ashes series i mean come on he was the most consitent spin bowler we had in Test n ODIs and on top of that he started devloping into a more than capable lower order batsmen, he didnt do that bad against India in the short test series b4 the ashes which was his come back from injury as well so another exmaple of the inconsintecy we have with slow bowlers but in sayin that Nathan Lyon has done more than a good job since taking over as No1 spinner but i still think Haurtiz should be our No2 spinner he is better than Michael Beer who isnt ready for International cricket as our No1 or 2 spin bowler

  • jmcilhinney on August 9, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    It does seem rather odd to hold a spin camp when your #1 Test spinner, who is still relatively inexperienced, is unavailable. Maybe it wasn't possible to avoid the schedule clash but you'd hope that they tried at least.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on August 8, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    Australia are a completely irrelevant side these days. A spin camp certainly won't help them. There for the taking by almost any international test side, they remain an average, middle-ranked and frankly boring team.

  • jezzastyles on August 8, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    @smudgeon - flying in retired subcontinent batsmen to prepare our young spiiners - at first I nearly laughed, but then it struck me - bloody great idea. Because if there's one thing we're used to seeing in IND, its our spinners getting hammered all over the park. Don't know about the cost factor, but maybe the next Batting Coach (how long has Langer got left on his contract) should be a retired subcontinent batsmen?? If we can harness the full strength of our bowling resources for the next Ashes series, the Pommy batting lineup will be tested near to breaking.

  • Chris_P on August 8, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    @RednWhiteArmy. Yes, all very amusing, but where were you after South Africa handed you your you-know-what after the first test? What was it again, 318.5 runs per wicket vs. 20 runs per wicket? Ah yes, stats you would want your team to be performing and backing up your statements. Well done!

  • smudgeon on August 7, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    what about Greg Ritchie? oh, hang on, this isn't just a forum for listing our favourite players, is it?

  • sk12 on August 7, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    wow the seam position looks perfect in the photo..

  • Beertjie on August 7, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    @jeauxx, a good wish,but mine is for Boyce to develop as quickly into a potential match winner (I know this takes time!). If you're right, SO'K's improvement could permit us picking 4 out and out quicks (one a left-armer). Hope he gets a go!

  • Chuckworth on August 7, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    What about Steven Smith?

  • on August 7, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    @Gordo85 How does Cullen Bailey being your favourite state player make him worthy of being part of this camp?

  • Auscricketfan on August 10, 2012, 2:09 GMT

    This is a great idea considering we have a test series in India, the One day tour in the UAE and the T20 world cup, but i could never understand the decsion to drop Nathan Hauritz before the 1st test against the Poms in the last ashes series i mean come on he was the most consitent spin bowler we had in Test n ODIs and on top of that he started devloping into a more than capable lower order batsmen, he didnt do that bad against India in the short test series b4 the ashes which was his come back from injury as well so another exmaple of the inconsintecy we have with slow bowlers but in sayin that Nathan Lyon has done more than a good job since taking over as No1 spinner but i still think Haurtiz should be our No2 spinner he is better than Michael Beer who isnt ready for International cricket as our No1 or 2 spin bowler

  • jmcilhinney on August 9, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    It does seem rather odd to hold a spin camp when your #1 Test spinner, who is still relatively inexperienced, is unavailable. Maybe it wasn't possible to avoid the schedule clash but you'd hope that they tried at least.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on August 8, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    Australia are a completely irrelevant side these days. A spin camp certainly won't help them. There for the taking by almost any international test side, they remain an average, middle-ranked and frankly boring team.

  • jezzastyles on August 8, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    @smudgeon - flying in retired subcontinent batsmen to prepare our young spiiners - at first I nearly laughed, but then it struck me - bloody great idea. Because if there's one thing we're used to seeing in IND, its our spinners getting hammered all over the park. Don't know about the cost factor, but maybe the next Batting Coach (how long has Langer got left on his contract) should be a retired subcontinent batsmen?? If we can harness the full strength of our bowling resources for the next Ashes series, the Pommy batting lineup will be tested near to breaking.

  • Chris_P on August 8, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    @RednWhiteArmy. Yes, all very amusing, but where were you after South Africa handed you your you-know-what after the first test? What was it again, 318.5 runs per wicket vs. 20 runs per wicket? Ah yes, stats you would want your team to be performing and backing up your statements. Well done!

  • smudgeon on August 7, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    what about Greg Ritchie? oh, hang on, this isn't just a forum for listing our favourite players, is it?

  • sk12 on August 7, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    wow the seam position looks perfect in the photo..

  • Beertjie on August 7, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    @jeauxx, a good wish,but mine is for Boyce to develop as quickly into a potential match winner (I know this takes time!). If you're right, SO'K's improvement could permit us picking 4 out and out quicks (one a left-armer). Hope he gets a go!

  • Chuckworth on August 7, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    What about Steven Smith?

  • on August 7, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    @Gordo85 How does Cullen Bailey being your favourite state player make him worthy of being part of this camp?

  • hyped on August 7, 2012, 10:56 GMT

    nathan hauritz sholud be promoted...

  • on August 7, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    what about shaun marsh????

  • on August 7, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Looking forward to this summer's season of cricket. lets hope that the likes of O'keefe, both marsh's, cutting, boyce, all the young quicks all stay fit and healthy and keep improving their games. hopefully Khawaja and co who have moved states will take their games to the next level. i will have my bulls season membership and will follow all the young state players around australia. I dont think we are that far away from competing for the top position in world cricket again. maybe another 2 years and we will be there, only if the Khawaja's, Burns, Lynn's, Marsh, Maddinson, hughes all become prolific run scorers in 1st class cricket like the Hayden's, langer's, Lehmann's, Love's, Law and co did 15 years ago.

  • RandyOZ on August 7, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    Good work in doing this. Can we please leave Langer behind though. Surely it's time to give Justin the flick?

  • tanstell87 on August 7, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    this wont help Australia....they are an ordinary team who are going to blown away in Sri Lanka & in England next year

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 7, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    Australia need a miracle! There massive lack of talent wont be fixed by going on camp, shoving a sausage on a stick and whistling cumbaya.

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 7, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    Obviously everyone knows the aussys have a massive lack of talent in all departments, and after reading those names you've also just given me a great laugh. Thanks.

  • Gordo85 on August 7, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    This is flat out shocking to be honest. No mention of Cullen Bailey at all who is one of my favourite players at state level. What does this show or say about Cricket Australia. It is very concerning indeed.

  • kirangupta on August 7, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    Good to see Boyce and Marsh in there.

  • jonesy2 on August 7, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    nice. on paper one cant see australia losing a game in the world twenty20 if they all play well and as a unit

  • jeauxx on August 7, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    If I could have one wish for the next 2-3 years of Australian cricket, it would be for Stephen O'Keefe to live up to his statistics. If he could transfer numbers of 28 (bowling average) and 34 (batting average) to Test level Australia would be a much more comfortable side.

  • smudgeon on August 7, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    good thinking! a lot of people have been saying this for years - train (or, better, compete) in the top end to get experience in conditions similar to the subcontinent. i wonder whether there'd be any thought giving to flying in a few retired sub-continental batsmen to also give our tweakers an idea on how to bowl to players very adept at spin. conditions are one thing - out-thinking a batsman who knows spinners inside-out is another thing altogether. still, this is a very positive move, and i am looking forward to seeing whether it pays off. hopefully Lyon and Holland can make it back for the tail end of the camp. oh, just noticed Hoggy is in the group too! man, his comeback is such a feelgood story. i hope he's there not only to pass on his immense knowledge and skill to the next gen spinners, but also because he is in the selectors' reckoning beyond the T20 cup. (if he can teach one young wristie how to do that flipper, he'll have done more than enough!)

  • maddinson on August 7, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    few very good inclusions in Mitch Marsh and Maddinson, both are highly talented and capable to serve Cricket Australia for a substantial duration in all 3 formats.

  • Meety on August 7, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    I see a fair bit of value in that. Good iniative.

  • Ben1989 on August 7, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    a very good idea by the coaches etc. things like this should've been occuring a long time ago to prepare by the time Warney retired, but obviously no one realised how important a good spinner is to a test team, hard to reach number 1 without a good slow bowler who can take wickets and/or dry up the runs, Lyon is getting there & hopefully the tour he's currently on helps, otherwise Holland is certainly looking the goods or even Boyce

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  • Ben1989 on August 7, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    a very good idea by the coaches etc. things like this should've been occuring a long time ago to prepare by the time Warney retired, but obviously no one realised how important a good spinner is to a test team, hard to reach number 1 without a good slow bowler who can take wickets and/or dry up the runs, Lyon is getting there & hopefully the tour he's currently on helps, otherwise Holland is certainly looking the goods or even Boyce

  • Meety on August 7, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    I see a fair bit of value in that. Good iniative.

  • maddinson on August 7, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    few very good inclusions in Mitch Marsh and Maddinson, both are highly talented and capable to serve Cricket Australia for a substantial duration in all 3 formats.

  • smudgeon on August 7, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    good thinking! a lot of people have been saying this for years - train (or, better, compete) in the top end to get experience in conditions similar to the subcontinent. i wonder whether there'd be any thought giving to flying in a few retired sub-continental batsmen to also give our tweakers an idea on how to bowl to players very adept at spin. conditions are one thing - out-thinking a batsman who knows spinners inside-out is another thing altogether. still, this is a very positive move, and i am looking forward to seeing whether it pays off. hopefully Lyon and Holland can make it back for the tail end of the camp. oh, just noticed Hoggy is in the group too! man, his comeback is such a feelgood story. i hope he's there not only to pass on his immense knowledge and skill to the next gen spinners, but also because he is in the selectors' reckoning beyond the T20 cup. (if he can teach one young wristie how to do that flipper, he'll have done more than enough!)

  • jeauxx on August 7, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    If I could have one wish for the next 2-3 years of Australian cricket, it would be for Stephen O'Keefe to live up to his statistics. If he could transfer numbers of 28 (bowling average) and 34 (batting average) to Test level Australia would be a much more comfortable side.

  • jonesy2 on August 7, 2012, 8:01 GMT

    nice. on paper one cant see australia losing a game in the world twenty20 if they all play well and as a unit

  • kirangupta on August 7, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    Good to see Boyce and Marsh in there.

  • Gordo85 on August 7, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    This is flat out shocking to be honest. No mention of Cullen Bailey at all who is one of my favourite players at state level. What does this show or say about Cricket Australia. It is very concerning indeed.

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 7, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    Obviously everyone knows the aussys have a massive lack of talent in all departments, and after reading those names you've also just given me a great laugh. Thanks.

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 7, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    Australia need a miracle! There massive lack of talent wont be fixed by going on camp, shoving a sausage on a stick and whistling cumbaya.