Australia news August 13, 2012

Ponting motivated by Ashes failures

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Ricky Ponting has said he is motivated every day by the memories of losing the past two Ashes series in England and he hopes to retain his place long enough to have another chance to win the urn away from home. Ponting will be 38 when Australia tour England next year and having had his ODI career ended by the national selectors earlier this year, he knows that he will not make the trip unless his form over the coming 12 months justifies it.

As a Test-only player, Ponting now has plenty of down-time to ponder his goals, and while his colleagues fly out for a limited-overs tour of the UAE this month he will remain at home, working on his game. And visions of Michael Vaughan, Andrew Strauss and their team-mates raising the urn in triumph at The Oval will not disappear.

"It's one of the biggest motivators I have right now. Every morning I get up and go to the gym and I'm pounding away on the bike or the treadmill, it's with some of the memories of The Oval still in my mind from the last couple of tours," Ponting told ABC Radio on Monday. "They're things that don't go away quickly.

"We've been very close over there on the last couple of tours, haven't quite been good enough and we were nowhere good enough when England were in Australia last time. I think all Australian Test players have a point to prove to England and probably more of a point to prove in England."

But while thoughts of an Ashes redemption are in Ponting's mind, he knows that he cannot afford to overlook the many contests looming before that trip. His next engagement for Australia will be the Test series against South Africa starting in early November, before three Tests against Sri Lanka, and then a tour of India before the Ashes.

There is also the prospect of playing in two more Ashes battles, for back-to-back series have been scheduled for next year, with England to tour Australia barely six months after the series in England. By then Ponting will be 39, and while reaching that point while remaining in the baggy green might seem like a best-case scenario for him, it is not a goal he thinks is out of reach.

"It might be easier to sustain now that I'm only playing one form of the game," Ponting said of the desire to keep playing. "The amount of cricket that I've played over the last 15 years is pretty immense, 160-odd Tests and 370 one-dayers… that's a lot of cricket. Now that I'm not playing that one-day side of things I'm playing a few [Sheffield] Shield games this year, a few Ryobi Cup games, I'll get a few more Hurricanes games this year, but as far as where do I end, that all depends on how my hunger is and how I'm playing and how my form is.

"We've got 18 months of some of the most competitive Test cricket that we've had in a long time: South Africa in Australia, India in India and then the Ashes, back-to-back series pretty much. It doesn't get any bigger or better than that for an Australian cricketer. If I can make it through to the end of that, that would be great. If I can play well enough to have an impact on some wins through that period that would be great as well. Really for me all I can focus on now is being right for the start of November."

In Ponting's favour is the fact that few middle-order batsmen are knocking the door down at domestic level. The national selector John Inverarity has spoken of George Bailey, Peter Forrest and David Hussey potentially being the next men in line for Test cricket but none have dominated in the Shield over the past few years to the extent that their case is irresistible. Ponting said he would accept it if he lost his place to someone more deserving.

"If there's someone out there better than me that is breathing down my neck and pushing me out the side, that's international sport," he said. "If there's someone better than Michael Hussey or David Warner that's the way it is. You have to be picking the best team to win every game you play. I honestly think if we play the way these guys can play and we just do things that little bit better … they'll find it hard to beat us - I don't care who we play."

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Hammond on August 16, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge- I don't hope so, we still have some very arrogant cricketers in the Aussie side that need an ongoing dose of defeat to wash away the still tangible vestiges of hubris and arrogance (and also amongst the Aussie cricket fans). Would love to see a 4-0 drubbing in England.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on August 16, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    Haven't the tables been turned famously eh? England unquestionably the better side and Ponting has spent the last few years being utterly humiliated. Yes, the jealousy from some Australian quarters reflected badly on a few, but I can't believe for a second that there is universal envy of England's success of the last few years; respect for the better side must surely prevail amongst mature cricket followers. England would love to bowl at Ponting again next year, they'd no doubt be delighted to bowl at any of the club-grade cricketers that currently don the Australian shirt. The question is - having spent so long now in the doldrums as an average, middle- ranked team, how long will Australia continue to remain the butt of all the jokes? I for one hope they manage to put up some kind of a fight soon, for reasons of posterity at least.

  • zenboomerang on August 16, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    @thebrotherswaugh... Many experienced commentators have questioned Pontings captaincy skills with good reasonings - though his team support is probably unrivaled... Except for the India series, from the Oz summer of 2010, Ponting has averaged in Test series: @14.1 v Eng; @31 v SL; @17.5 v SA; @33 v NZ; @24.3 v WI... Hardly Test worthy, with India really only having one good 'in form' bowler the other series show where his batting is at & considering how low NZ & WI rankings are, Ricky has been under achieving for years... The Test series against the Saafa's will show if he is worthy of going on an Ashes tour or not, otherwise I would be blooding a replacement for the SL & India series...

  • thebrotherswaugh on August 15, 2012, 20:34 GMT

    @popcorn - yep, we've seen how poorly AUS have done since Ponting resigned the captaincy to Clarke, who possesses neither the flair nor tactical acumen of the legendary Ponting. Note the sarcasm!! Ponting is a great cricketer, and he was a captain who fought tooth & nail for his team, you could never question his ticker or his willingness to do battle. But he was an average captain. Steve Waugh was much better (and if you look at his stats from when he concentrated on batting alone, the average is around 60 in tests), and his successor also. Ponting also LOST two Ashes series, something neither Taylor or Waugh EVER managed to do, but you conveniently omitted that little stat, didn't you. We'll agree to disagree.

  • RandyOZ on August 15, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    Poms look very jealous of Ponting, the best since Bradman, as they have never had any champions (Botham - laughable!).

  • on August 15, 2012, 11:25 GMT

    Ricky is one of the best batsman we ever produced, but he should've retired at the end of the India series. I have a lot of respect for him, but he's long past his best to the point where he's a free wicket.

  • Meety on August 15, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    @Kaze - I rate G Chappell ahead of Punter too, but for about 5 yrs, Ponting was the 2nd best batsmen of all time. Obviously waned, as did Chappell & Border. Border is harder to rate, as he was a lot more different. I just remember how often things seemed to be OK in Oz's dark days of the mid 80s IF AB was still at the crease! (Punter marginally ahead but that depends on which side of the bed I get out of in the morning)! @ popcorn - I think when people judge Punter's captaincy, they need to have a look at possibly the only other batsmen/captain of the modern era to have gone thru the same upheavals & see how he coped - that's Richie Richardson. It didn't end well for Richie Rich, Punter is light years ahead. Both had to cope with declining dynastys & were the gun batsmen. IMO - Punter was a great ODI captain, slightly above ave Test captain. I wished he'd of been more like his nickname when captaining the team.

  • reddawn1975 on August 15, 2012, 9:03 GMT

    No Ponting is the best batsman since Bradman he is a modern day machine.And has led Australia through some good and tough times the Numbers don't lie doesn't matter which country he made runs didn't make runs he's a champion and far to many people have jumped on his throat way to soon.Support your champion like the Indians support there's.They show pure love for the game and there cricketers.keep going hard Ricky there's runs in you still

  • othello22 on August 15, 2012, 8:26 GMT

    He has an uphill battle to retain his place until the Ashes begin, tough series against the Saffas (who may very well be number 1 by then), SL and a series on Indian dustbowls where he has never really looked comfortable. Ponting is one of the greats no doubt but he has looked vulnerable last few years especially when the ball is moving. Unfortunately, age is diminishing his once fabled powers but he is a very determined man and for his sake and Australia's, I hope he makes it. Of course, the other problem is that Australia's hopeless top order will never provide him with any starts either and it will once again be left to him, Clarke and Hussey to do all the heavy lifting just like last summer against india. Australian cricket is in a dire state, so it's hard to justify dropping a tried and proven batsman like Ponting unless there is an obvious replacement who is in red hot domestic form, which there is not.

  • popcorn on August 15, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    @thebrotherswaugh,I cannot why you don not rate Ricky Ponting highly as a Captain. Do you think he achieved the Pinnacle of a Captain's success - the HIGHEST number of Test Wins as Captain in Test HISTORY, merely by strolling up to take the toss, let the players field wherever they wanted,had the Midas Touch to know WHICH bowler to give the ball to bowl,rode his luck to get Win after Win,merely did batting work and scored 41 Test Centuries,that he was lucky to have Shane Warne,Glenn McGrath in his Team, but Steve Waugh,Mark Taylor and AB did not have this luck? What utter nonsense! Ponting was the GREATEST ever Captain for Australia. I'll leave you with just one thought - Ponting has been the ONLY Captain to whitewash England 5 nil - he did that in The Ashes 2006 -07. The last Captain who did that was Warwick Armstrong 85 years before that. So give the guy his due Credit.

  • Hammond on August 16, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge- I don't hope so, we still have some very arrogant cricketers in the Aussie side that need an ongoing dose of defeat to wash away the still tangible vestiges of hubris and arrogance (and also amongst the Aussie cricket fans). Would love to see a 4-0 drubbing in England.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on August 16, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    Haven't the tables been turned famously eh? England unquestionably the better side and Ponting has spent the last few years being utterly humiliated. Yes, the jealousy from some Australian quarters reflected badly on a few, but I can't believe for a second that there is universal envy of England's success of the last few years; respect for the better side must surely prevail amongst mature cricket followers. England would love to bowl at Ponting again next year, they'd no doubt be delighted to bowl at any of the club-grade cricketers that currently don the Australian shirt. The question is - having spent so long now in the doldrums as an average, middle- ranked team, how long will Australia continue to remain the butt of all the jokes? I for one hope they manage to put up some kind of a fight soon, for reasons of posterity at least.

  • zenboomerang on August 16, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    @thebrotherswaugh... Many experienced commentators have questioned Pontings captaincy skills with good reasonings - though his team support is probably unrivaled... Except for the India series, from the Oz summer of 2010, Ponting has averaged in Test series: @14.1 v Eng; @31 v SL; @17.5 v SA; @33 v NZ; @24.3 v WI... Hardly Test worthy, with India really only having one good 'in form' bowler the other series show where his batting is at & considering how low NZ & WI rankings are, Ricky has been under achieving for years... The Test series against the Saafa's will show if he is worthy of going on an Ashes tour or not, otherwise I would be blooding a replacement for the SL & India series...

  • thebrotherswaugh on August 15, 2012, 20:34 GMT

    @popcorn - yep, we've seen how poorly AUS have done since Ponting resigned the captaincy to Clarke, who possesses neither the flair nor tactical acumen of the legendary Ponting. Note the sarcasm!! Ponting is a great cricketer, and he was a captain who fought tooth & nail for his team, you could never question his ticker or his willingness to do battle. But he was an average captain. Steve Waugh was much better (and if you look at his stats from when he concentrated on batting alone, the average is around 60 in tests), and his successor also. Ponting also LOST two Ashes series, something neither Taylor or Waugh EVER managed to do, but you conveniently omitted that little stat, didn't you. We'll agree to disagree.

  • RandyOZ on August 15, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    Poms look very jealous of Ponting, the best since Bradman, as they have never had any champions (Botham - laughable!).

  • on August 15, 2012, 11:25 GMT

    Ricky is one of the best batsman we ever produced, but he should've retired at the end of the India series. I have a lot of respect for him, but he's long past his best to the point where he's a free wicket.

  • Meety on August 15, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    @Kaze - I rate G Chappell ahead of Punter too, but for about 5 yrs, Ponting was the 2nd best batsmen of all time. Obviously waned, as did Chappell & Border. Border is harder to rate, as he was a lot more different. I just remember how often things seemed to be OK in Oz's dark days of the mid 80s IF AB was still at the crease! (Punter marginally ahead but that depends on which side of the bed I get out of in the morning)! @ popcorn - I think when people judge Punter's captaincy, they need to have a look at possibly the only other batsmen/captain of the modern era to have gone thru the same upheavals & see how he coped - that's Richie Richardson. It didn't end well for Richie Rich, Punter is light years ahead. Both had to cope with declining dynastys & were the gun batsmen. IMO - Punter was a great ODI captain, slightly above ave Test captain. I wished he'd of been more like his nickname when captaining the team.

  • reddawn1975 on August 15, 2012, 9:03 GMT

    No Ponting is the best batsman since Bradman he is a modern day machine.And has led Australia through some good and tough times the Numbers don't lie doesn't matter which country he made runs didn't make runs he's a champion and far to many people have jumped on his throat way to soon.Support your champion like the Indians support there's.They show pure love for the game and there cricketers.keep going hard Ricky there's runs in you still

  • othello22 on August 15, 2012, 8:26 GMT

    He has an uphill battle to retain his place until the Ashes begin, tough series against the Saffas (who may very well be number 1 by then), SL and a series on Indian dustbowls where he has never really looked comfortable. Ponting is one of the greats no doubt but he has looked vulnerable last few years especially when the ball is moving. Unfortunately, age is diminishing his once fabled powers but he is a very determined man and for his sake and Australia's, I hope he makes it. Of course, the other problem is that Australia's hopeless top order will never provide him with any starts either and it will once again be left to him, Clarke and Hussey to do all the heavy lifting just like last summer against india. Australian cricket is in a dire state, so it's hard to justify dropping a tried and proven batsman like Ponting unless there is an obvious replacement who is in red hot domestic form, which there is not.

  • popcorn on August 15, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    @thebrotherswaugh,I cannot why you don not rate Ricky Ponting highly as a Captain. Do you think he achieved the Pinnacle of a Captain's success - the HIGHEST number of Test Wins as Captain in Test HISTORY, merely by strolling up to take the toss, let the players field wherever they wanted,had the Midas Touch to know WHICH bowler to give the ball to bowl,rode his luck to get Win after Win,merely did batting work and scored 41 Test Centuries,that he was lucky to have Shane Warne,Glenn McGrath in his Team, but Steve Waugh,Mark Taylor and AB did not have this luck? What utter nonsense! Ponting was the GREATEST ever Captain for Australia. I'll leave you with just one thought - Ponting has been the ONLY Captain to whitewash England 5 nil - he did that in The Ashes 2006 -07. The last Captain who did that was Warwick Armstrong 85 years before that. So give the guy his due Credit.

  • Auscricketfan on August 15, 2012, 6:21 GMT

    @Kaze i can see ur point the two batsman u just mentioned are 2 of the finest batsman in Aus histroy espcially Border when u consider the that for a while he was the only Aus batsman who could stand up and score against good teams but i just think That Punter is better because like Border he has proven himself to be 1 of the greatest batsman of all time and Ricky has accomplished things no else has e.g !00s in each innings of his 100th test, plus apart from Sachin he has the most international 100s so in my personal opiionon Punter is 2nd to bradman in terms of Aus batters

  • Meety on August 15, 2012, 0:19 GMT

    @Ross_Co on (August 14 2012, 15:46 PM GMT) - champagne comment!

  • thebrotherswaugh on August 14, 2012, 16:24 GMT

    An absolute champion, but I never rated him as a captain. Hopefully he's still around next June for the Ashes, and we'll see what happens thereafter. We have to play the PAK, then the mighty Saffers - both have strong attacks and will test the skills of the veteran. If he negotiates those obstacles, he'll make an absolute mountain of runs vs. the hapless, pedestrian band of geriatrics that ENG have for bowlers nowadays. The only attachment I make to that claim is whether he gets the time in middle, because the top order may dominate to the extent that Ponting and Hussey aren't even needed! As for the AUS bowling, 'like a hot knife through butter' comes to mind. Our young, vital, and pace-enriched attack will leave mental scars that will last for many a year to come. Could see the forced retirement of yet another Pommy captain (assuming Strauss is still in charge, after the flogging they'll cop in IND, then struggling away & later at home vs. NZ). Can't wait for the carnage to begin.

  • on August 14, 2012, 16:16 GMT

    I would like to see Punter leave with grace and not pushed out of the team as it happened in ODIs. Just get a feeling that he may be pushing it a bit. No one can ever argue what he has done and what his abilities are but unfortunately every great player has to go and let others come in. If he thinks he is feeling great and still at his peak, that is another reason for him to leave because great players leave at their best, Glen , Gilli, Warne, are perfect example. Great player and deserve great respect.

  • Ross_Co on August 14, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    @Dashgar - You have to understand that @Hammond is an Englishman pretending to be an Australian, Bit of an English trait these days I'm afraid, the 'England' team is full of players pretending to be a nationality they aren't.

  • Dashgar on August 14, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    @Hammond, disgraceful comments. Ponting is probably the second best batsman ever to wear the baggy green and he's made runs all over the world. His record in India is poor that's true but last time there he was a lot better getting a few fifties and very nearly drawing the series. In England he's averaged 44 which in anyone else's terms is outstanding, especially considering the quality of bowlers they've had to work with and the amount of time they put into trying to beat Australia. He's also been run out a few times in England while seemingly on the way to huge scores. I'm not saying Ponting will be the same player he once was but it's foolish to write him off and disrespectful to say he's anything less than a legend of the sport.

  • Hammond on August 14, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    @FatBoysCanBat2- check out Pontings record in India and in England. On flat hard Aussie wickets with the Kooka that doesn't do anything after 15 overs, he was fine, but away when the ball actually spun or went off the seam, he was absolutely bog average. Added to that he was the worst ambassador for cricket this country has ever produced. The bloke made me feel embarrassed to be an Australian, and turned me completely off my own countries cricket team, not unlike how Greg Chappell turned my old man off the Australian team in the 80's.

  • Kaze on August 14, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    @Auscricketfan Ponting isn't the best since Bradman I'm sorry but there are a couple ahead of him most notably GS Chappell and AR Border. But you are right he does need to stick around as long as he is scoring.

  • FatBoysCanBat2 on August 14, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    @Hammond: Have you actually watched Ponting play mate?? You don't score the third most Test centuries in the history of the game at an average touching 53 with a "non-existent" technique. There are only two things at fault in his technique...1 he falls over his front pad early on in his innings and can become an LBW candidate...2 he has developed a tendency to not roll his wrists on pull/hook shots and hole out at backward square. Apart from these two things [which are pretty minor] he is near faultless...he's got the high front elbow, gets well forward, uses his crease well and uses his feet to the spinner well. As a New Zealander I have never liked the guy but to say he doesn't have a technique is a mockery.

  • popcorn on August 14, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    We have NO REPLACEMENT for Ricky Ponting yet. Cries for his sacking are stupid. Peter Forrest, Usman Khawaja,Shaun Marsh, - NONE of them have proven themselves.None of them can replace him.We DO NOT HAVE a SOLID Batsman like Ricky Ponting who EVERY Opposition fears. The ONLY OTHER CONSISTENT batsmen we have are Michael Clarke, Mike Hussey and Shane Watson. So are we going to EXPERIMENT, or are we GOING TO SELECT A WINNING TEAM? Except for George Bailey, and he too hasn't CONSISTENTLY made big scores, I don't see ANYONE replacing Ricky Ponting AND Mike Hussey till AFTER the Return Ashes 2013 -14 in Australia. We need you, Punter.

  • Hippiantor on August 14, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    @Hammond On the contrary one of the best batsman ever to wear the baggy green and one of the most entertaining batsman of the last 15years. "Ugly" batting is largely subjective as is captaincy to a degree.

  • Hammond on August 14, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    Ponting was the worst captain this country has ever seen and the ugliest hard handed batsman to ever wear the baggy green. I was hoping against all hope that he would fade away when England last won the ashes in 2011, but unfortunately this didn't happen. The upside is we will all get to see the English bowlers unravel his non-existent technique yet again next year. Looking forward to that. Hopefully then he will fade away, unloved, unwanted and forgotten.

  • Auscricketfan on August 14, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    Ricky Ponting is our best batsman since bradman no doubt about that and he proved last summer that he is still probably 75 to 80% the player he was in his prime and when you consider how good he has been i would take Ricky in to battle any day over forrest, marsh etc, Aus still needs Punter to hang around for both the Ashes in Eng and here 6 months l8ter, as for this summer im sure ricky will be amongst the runs against SA and Sri lanka after that he will go India make runs there and be for Ashes

  • Mary_786 on August 14, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    JBerger is on the mark, Khawaja should have been given more time, if he got 7 tests in a row like Cowan has he would be settled into the team by now, however I predict he will be back after a great season for Qld this year. Punter is a legend and will retire when he is ready.

  • on August 14, 2012, 4:59 GMT

    Australia cannot do to Ponting what they did to the lights of Waugh brothers, Damien Martyn, Simon Katich. They just cant afford to. There simply isnt enough quality to replace Punter and if he is motivated and scoring runs, i dont see a reason to drop him. He showed his class last summer against India and given another full summer i am sure he will do the same. He is not the same player that he was 4-5 years ago, but things have changed after handing over the captaincy. he is enjoying playing under Clarke and over the space of 12 months his form has improved dramatically.

  • balajik1968 on August 14, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    Retiring is always tricky, so to that extent one can understand Ponting's reluctance. However, Australia need to look ahead. They have had a few young fast bowlers showing promise. It is the batting which should be a worry. Ponting and Hussey are in their late 30's. Clarke has a dodgy back which means he may not be there in 2-3 years. Watson is good without being great. Warner looks promising but it's still early days. Khawaja, Shaun Marsh, Phil Hughes are not living up to potential. Ed Cowan is not someone who can get people to play around him. I mean he gets his 50's but does not go about grinding the big innings to put a big total.

  • on August 14, 2012, 4:30 GMT

    Go for it Punter. South Africa have already exposed England there is no reason why Australia cannot beat England at home.

  • Rooboy on August 14, 2012, 2:37 GMT

    @aussasinator etc - the fact is that Ponting's spot is there for the taking, and if Marsh, Khawaja, Forrest etc were good enough they'd have taken it. But I doubt the selectors will start picking inferior players just because you don't like Ponting. @george matt - lol yep this hype about Aus being a good test team is totally ridiculous, huh? They've only won what, 9 of their last 13 including an away win v South Africa. Atrocious. Really needed to have won at least 15 of those 13 tests to be considered half decent. Seems like a team needs to lose a series 3-0 to be considered truly great.

  • on August 14, 2012, 2:16 GMT

    Just wish that the Indian cricket team players, especially the "legendary elite" ones including the skipper,were as much motivated as Pointing in winning Test series in South Africa and Australia which India has never before done in their Test playing history. Guess that's due to the difference in sporting culture between the 2 nations.

  • MattyP1979 on August 14, 2012, 2:15 GMT

    He still looks like the oldest schoolboy in history. Look if Aus cannot replace two 38 year olds (good as they WERE) then there is something wrong. Huss/Punter are still quite decent batsman, but they might find they lose some of the respect they worked so hard to achieve. Either way it matters not. At least Aus don't have a history of flogging their players to death....o wait a minute.

  • featurewriter on August 14, 2012, 2:06 GMT

    puroniks. I think you may well be the blockhead. Punter has never mentioned anything about pursuing Tendulkar's record. Not once. I've been fortunate enough to meet the guy a few times over the course of his long career, and I can tell you without hesitation that the thing that drives him is a passion for the game and an unyielding desire to compete. He's an athlete. That's what they do. Armchair critics, however, sit back and criticise performances and add to their waistline at the same rate cricketers like Ponting add to their run tally. (And yep, I'm referring to you puroniks.)

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 14, 2012, 0:41 GMT

    Good to see the youth coming through hahahaha

  • cricketfannik on August 14, 2012, 0:34 GMT

    Ricky pon is still hanging because of his performances against Ind and decent ones against WI. The problem Aus team always have is they throw their big players out easily look now after Mcgrath Lee warne gilispie they are failinf to win against Eng and Surily they will lose against SA too @ home and wil lose in India to its hard to beat Ind in India. If aus wants him to perform give him some games bring him back in ODI format he still hasnt retired and anyways aus is losing badly WI they only managed to drew ODI series which they almost lost if runnout wasnt have happened of darren sammy. Eng tour was shamefull and same will happen in PAk may be. if you let him in then he will be touch plus perform and then can guide youngsters as well its 3 things. anyways Clarki is very clever he doesnt want to see ponting in any side which he is captaining coz of too many opinions. its shameful that he is not in ODI atleast aus would have won some games. their odi future is bad, no one is consistent

  • hardikvyas21 on August 14, 2012, 0:05 GMT

    Ponting please do come to India.. Both Ishant and Harbhajan need to resurrect their careers.. You ll be of great help Mate...

  • Meety on August 13, 2012, 23:41 GMT

    @Heisenburg - I don't think greed comes into it with Punter. I think it is a rock solid determination to leave Oz in as good a place as he entered it. They maybe considered indulgent (thinking legacy), but I think it is beyond personal gain. @Behind_the_bowlers_arm - whilst I'd prefer to worry about what XI we will put on the park that is better than England's, I have to say, an Eng. batting line up minus KP, but with an aging Strauss & suspect Bell + 2 rookies, is not formidable. I also suspect that Trott is undergoing a less spectacular diminishing returns version of M Hussey (remember when after about 20 tests he averaged 80+?), Trott's test average is currently well above his FC. So there are plenty of openings IMO. I think we can shore up our batting relatively quickly as we have plenty of options that need to be given the right advice & opportunity, it just depends on whether you are currently looking short/mid or long term!

  • on August 13, 2012, 22:50 GMT

    ponting is still in the team because of lack of talent, who would u pic to replace him and hussey, Bailey and forrest, what a waste. Bailey i can understand a lil, but forrest, get over it. some guys are good domestically an just cant perform on the international stage (mark ramprakash). lol, ya i said it.. (no disrespect intended).. its simple as this, when Ponting and Hussey goes then Aus will truely start to fall, both class players...

  • Nerk on August 13, 2012, 22:47 GMT

    I remember reading a magazine in which Ponting went away from cricket for a while. He was tired of the game and just needed a break. Had about six months off. He came back, hungry for runs and it showed. Granted that was eleven years ago now, but the theory may just work. However, Punter's reflexes have slowed a lot over the last few years. Good inswing bowling has caught him out far too often, indeed good outswing bowling has caught him out far too often. He is not as confident pulling and hooking anymore, which were his trademarks but five years ago. I also cannot understand the claims that no quality batsmen pushing for places: L Davis (28) was 2nd in the Shield aggregate with 921 at 65. Quiney (29) came first, 938 at 49, Forrest 581 at 58, Cooper 756 @ 44. Some of them are not babes, but Hussey and Gilly were hardly young when he came into the team, and look at how well he did. Honestly, it doesn't matter who is in the team, as long as they score runs and take catches.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on August 13, 2012, 21:42 GMT

    At any other time in the last 25 years in Australian cricket Ponting would have got a handshake and a gold watch about 3 or 4 years ago. Unfortunately the new batsmen arent there to push him out so on he goes. I still think one of him and M Hussey will go this summer and I suspect it will be Ponting. Australia have 12 months to find at least two batsmen to shore up a fragile top 6 which is possible but unlikely. That said the demise of Pietersen if it becomes permanent means England have Taylor and Bairstow as their no 5 & 6. A chink of light maybe for Australia?

  • MinusZero on August 13, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    If the selectors want the Ashes, Ponting and Hussey have to go. If they go there with green players and Ponting and/or Hussey fail and new recruits are thrown in the deep end, they will surely lose.They need to learn from the past. They did not prepare for the post Warne/McGrath era and are now paying the price. Start blooding new players and give them an extended chance in the series leading up. Ponting should stand down for the good of the future of Australian cricket. And another thing, stop trying new players in ODI and thinking they can play tests! Its a totally different game. Look at Watson, good ODI player, mediocre test batsman. Look at the best 4 day performers over the past few seasons and give them a chance. Forget Mitchell Johnson and other mistakes from the past and move on!

  • ashes61 on August 13, 2012, 20:46 GMT

    He may well make it but only because of the astonishing dearth of batting talent coming through. I can't remember a time (& I go back as far as Benaud, Harvey & O'Neill) when so few Aussie bats were any good - so many have been tried in the last 2 or 3 years and not one is Test standard. I should correct that & say no-one is Test standard yet. Perhaps if some had been perservered with (not the T20 sloggers but the sound, typical Aussie scrappers) they might have come on a bit by now.All the blokes they try seem to have learned their "craft" in T20, and that's nowhere near good enough. Not looking for world class - just potential Test standard. Only 10 yrs ago the states (and our counties!) were brimming with Oz bats who would have walked into ENG's team at the time but couldn't get in the Oz side as it was so consistent. The Oz Test side's decline may be cyclical but where are the young 'uns to replace them? Should be loads but there are none. Old Ponting, Clark, Hussey. Watson? Nope.

  • Aristotle01 on August 13, 2012, 20:28 GMT

    Hahaha.... This poor old nut called ricky ponting just has a blockhead I tell ya. He continues to be a disgrace to the game with his single minded focus on wasteful ambitions like over taking Sachin's records-Something that I always thought he was undeserving and incapable of. Sachin and Lara would have always been streets ahead of Ricky but Rick's bloated ego is too much to bare for the Aussie fan. He has always been a very good rather than a great bat. Kallis and Dravid being the other two foremost batters after the Indomitable Sachin Lara combo.

  • stFleming on August 13, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    Well lets hope Ricky Ponting plays for another year and reaches the milestone of 15,000 test runs...It would be great if he scores that much runs...Lets hope he remains till the Ashes series in Australia...Good luck Punter!!! U r the champion...

  • on August 13, 2012, 18:46 GMT

    Ponting has been working hard in the gym, pounding the treadmill? How about some batting practice Ricky, it's your batting that is crap, not your fitness. Just another oldie hanging on for another paycheck. Move on.The next generation has to come in and learn, like Steve Waughs era. There is no time like the present and the likes of Ponting can't see the end of the road when they are standing at it in the departure lounge, with their name being called out.

  • warneneverchuck on August 13, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Ponying is playing in the team bcoz of lack of good talent and not bcoz of his performance

  • Aussasinator on August 13, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    What is this guy still doing in the Australian team? sealing youngsters' fate for good? He's already taken Khwaja and Marsh. Is he also targeting Forrest so that he can last another year?

  • vrn59 on August 13, 2012, 17:27 GMT

    My XI: Warner, Watson, S Marsh, Ponting (C), Clarke, M Hussey, Haddin (W), Johnson, Siddle, Hilfenhaus, Lyon

  • vrn59 on August 13, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    Shane Watson (not so much in Tests though), Michael Clarke, Michael Hussey, Mitchell Johnson (although not right now) and Ben Hilfenhaus (the new, reinvented version) are the only quality players in the Australian Test team. David Warner has potential but not experience and perhaps not the perfect temperament at the moment for Test cricket, but he's still one for the future. Brad Haddin and Matthew Wade are both decent contenders for the wicketkeeping spot. Peter Siddle is a decent, hard-working bowler but I don't think he can be compared, at least right now, with Anderson and Broad. Australia will probably come up with a decent young third seamer, which will be interesting, but they don't currently have a quality spinner, which could haunt them.

    My AUS Test XI (for next year, not based on current form): Warner, Watson, S Marsh,

  • on August 13, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    @m_kamb - another loser who unleashes his frustration in wrong forums. if you understand english then just read that this article is for ricky and ashes and not sachin. sachin has done enough and will continue to do so for India and jokers like you can sit back and get jealous. anyways with lara, inzimam, dravid gone, last of the TEST GENERATIONbatsmen left (for me) = sachin, kallis, ponting, sangakara and laxman. wish they continue and give test lovers few more moments to cherish. for ponting i wish all the best.

  • on August 13, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    england might lose the number 1 ranking to saffers but they will keep on winning ashes for nest 3-4 years...all this hype of aus team being good in tests is ridiculous.. only clarke is a good batter...cowan average,warner hit and miss,ponting no more good, hussey still fighting, wade goog potential...but overall aus batting is weak... bowling is also not gr8,they were successful against india..even ponting made 100s but they will struggle against eng,saf

  • on August 13, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    england might lose the number 1 ranking to saffers but they will keep on winning ashes for nest 3-4 years...all this hype of aus team being good in tests is ridiculous.. only clarke is a good batter...cowan average,warner hit and miss,ponting no more good, hussey still fighting, wade goog potential...but overall aus batting is weak... bowling is also not gr8,they were successful against india..even ponting made 100s but they will struggle against eng,saf

  • JBerger on August 13, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    Fortunately there are no exceptionally talented batsman to replace Punter yet. But He has to be honest with himself as he would only know, If he is up to the task! By the way youngster like Usman Khawaja should have been given more exposure to make their ground.

  • on August 13, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    RICKY PUNTER PONTING... SURE ASHES WILL BE REGAINED

  • timtom on August 13, 2012, 15:12 GMT

    Ponting ...no worries...U are going to be in the team as long as guys like Peter forrest/George Bailey/Usman are potential contenders and also as long as CA is going to look for another Ponting..Just concentrate on batting bcos CA does drop even greats when their average threatens to drop below 50...

  • Hammond on August 13, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    I really hope he does play. Walking wicket that he is.

  • on August 13, 2012, 14:44 GMT

    ponting is going to rock till patterson,maddinson,m.marsh,hughes gets into the team

  • sawifan on August 13, 2012, 14:26 GMT

    Why should Punter step down? Yes, he is nowhere near his best, but he is still one of our best 6 batsmen (a fact that may be sad, but true on current Shield form). If there are better batsmen in form in the Shield, who are they? And i don't want potential, i want runs on the board!! @Chris Sun, i dont think all the focus is on the Ashes, i'm sure the journalist asked questions that led to those answers, and then modeled the article around Punter's 'Ashes desire'. Also, South Africa have also been one of his favoured opponents, so lets hope he has another great summer!!

  • RandyOZ on August 13, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    Ponting is the best since Bradman. There is no reason why he can't go back to England and totally dominate them again, as he has been doing for years on end.

  • landl47 on August 13, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    If Ponting is one of Australia's top 6 batsmen, then of course he should play. However, if Australia can't find anyone good enough to replace a pair of 38-year olds (Mike Hussey will be 38, too) by the tme of the next Ashes, then I don't like their chances.

  • akpy on August 13, 2012, 14:12 GMT

    last 3 years avg of ponting is <40, whereas sachin averages almost 60 in tests...yet, some jokers would malign sachin in this forum for sure and that too shameless indians...

  • on August 13, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    It will be very difficult for the Aussie selectors to replace Ricky Ponting in a similar manner the Indian selectors are facing to replace Rahul Dravid. They are living legends. Time will tell who can fill up those big shoes of world cricket.

  • hyclass on August 13, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    I'm not a fan of hype or statements in the media by players who continue to be embarrassed by their inability to back them up. All that should,could or ever will matter is to play the game for the games sake in the right spirit with the requisite application and toughness and then let the results speak for themselves. In one respect,Ponting has nailed the essential point-that the best team should be picked every game,irrespective of the cause ,level or opponent. The endless theorising has completely undermined the processes that define standards. Without standards or by constantly shifting them,players become disillusioned and lose focus and results quickly fall.I doubt that Ponting is diminishing the value of any game he plays for Australia and all opponents are worthy of equal effort in Australian supporters and players eyes. The Ashes obsession was a recent (5 years) device used by CA to buy time for errant policies used to undermine Test cricket and install their favoured 20/20.

  • Jimmy_Jim on August 13, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    Why is all the talk of the Ashes? Because it's the greatest series.

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 13, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    What a dire situation australia is in. pathetic

  • Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on August 13, 2012, 13:30 GMT

    @ m_kamb: Stop getting Sachin into everything. If Sachin speaks people say he is greedy, if Sachin does not speak people say he is greedy, If he scores a century people say he is greedy, if he does not score a century people say he is greedy, if he plays in a tournament people say he is greedy and if he does not people say he is greedy! Atleast respect him for what he has achieved in his career which neither you nor I can achieve. This article is about Ricky and please discuss only ricky!

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 13, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    Selectors are CRAZY if they don't let Ponting play in the next upcoming test series. This guy is a legend! Arguably one the best batsmen of all time; arguably one of the best captains of all time. Push age aside and let him play!

  • Heisenburg on August 13, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Ponting should of retired after the India series, if he stays longer than the next ashes he's just being greedy.

  • on August 13, 2012, 12:39 GMT

    Why is it all talk of the Ashes? It seems that Australia care nothing but the Ashes! You have SA, SL then India thinking that they could be easy beats. England may not be no.1 in the world anymore by the time the Ashes come around and that could motivate England to regain the no.1 ranking after losing it to SA. Ponting should step aside before the summer starts. What happened to him in the ODIs could happen to him in tests. ENG are suffering the curse of being no.1 just as India did and SA could suffer that as well.

  • m_kamb on August 13, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    thats the difference between being great and being not great.sachin has no guts to speak like this and thats why he never say his goal is to take india to no.1 ranking.

  • satish619chandar on August 13, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    He can and should play.. Aussies haven't got any replacement for him yet.. In fact, struggling a bit to replace the already retired greats.. May be, he should stay atleast till top three gets settled into the team.. No.4 is his place followed by Clarke and Hussey..

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  • satish619chandar on August 13, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    He can and should play.. Aussies haven't got any replacement for him yet.. In fact, struggling a bit to replace the already retired greats.. May be, he should stay atleast till top three gets settled into the team.. No.4 is his place followed by Clarke and Hussey..

  • m_kamb on August 13, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    thats the difference between being great and being not great.sachin has no guts to speak like this and thats why he never say his goal is to take india to no.1 ranking.

  • on August 13, 2012, 12:39 GMT

    Why is it all talk of the Ashes? It seems that Australia care nothing but the Ashes! You have SA, SL then India thinking that they could be easy beats. England may not be no.1 in the world anymore by the time the Ashes come around and that could motivate England to regain the no.1 ranking after losing it to SA. Ponting should step aside before the summer starts. What happened to him in the ODIs could happen to him in tests. ENG are suffering the curse of being no.1 just as India did and SA could suffer that as well.

  • Heisenburg on August 13, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Ponting should of retired after the India series, if he stays longer than the next ashes he's just being greedy.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 13, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    Selectors are CRAZY if they don't let Ponting play in the next upcoming test series. This guy is a legend! Arguably one the best batsmen of all time; arguably one of the best captains of all time. Push age aside and let him play!

  • Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on August 13, 2012, 13:30 GMT

    @ m_kamb: Stop getting Sachin into everything. If Sachin speaks people say he is greedy, if Sachin does not speak people say he is greedy, If he scores a century people say he is greedy, if he does not score a century people say he is greedy, if he plays in a tournament people say he is greedy and if he does not people say he is greedy! Atleast respect him for what he has achieved in his career which neither you nor I can achieve. This article is about Ricky and please discuss only ricky!

  • RednWhiteArmy on August 13, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    What a dire situation australia is in. pathetic

  • Jimmy_Jim on August 13, 2012, 13:42 GMT

    Why is all the talk of the Ashes? Because it's the greatest series.

  • hyclass on August 13, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    I'm not a fan of hype or statements in the media by players who continue to be embarrassed by their inability to back them up. All that should,could or ever will matter is to play the game for the games sake in the right spirit with the requisite application and toughness and then let the results speak for themselves. In one respect,Ponting has nailed the essential point-that the best team should be picked every game,irrespective of the cause ,level or opponent. The endless theorising has completely undermined the processes that define standards. Without standards or by constantly shifting them,players become disillusioned and lose focus and results quickly fall.I doubt that Ponting is diminishing the value of any game he plays for Australia and all opponents are worthy of equal effort in Australian supporters and players eyes. The Ashes obsession was a recent (5 years) device used by CA to buy time for errant policies used to undermine Test cricket and install their favoured 20/20.

  • on August 13, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    It will be very difficult for the Aussie selectors to replace Ricky Ponting in a similar manner the Indian selectors are facing to replace Rahul Dravid. They are living legends. Time will tell who can fill up those big shoes of world cricket.