Australia news October 15, 2012

Not picked between Haddin and Wade yet, insists Clarke

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Australia's captain and selector Michael Clarke has flatly denied reports that Brad Haddin's Test career has been terminated, opening the way for his younger rival Matthew Wade to take the gloves for the first Test of the summer against South Africa in Brisbane.

Clarke and the rest of the selection panel, comprising the national selector John Inverarity, the coach Mickey Arthur, Rod Marsh and Andy Bichel, met in Sydney on Monday afternoon following Cricket Australia's season launch for a planning meeting. However Clarke was adamant that no decision had been made on whether Haddin would reclaim the Test place he gave up for personal reasons in the West Indies earlier this year.

"I'm one of five selectors and if you're asking me as a selector that's completely false, it hasn't been discussed," Clarke said. "It obviously is a topic for discussion and will be spoken about over the next couple of weeks that's for sure. It's probably one of the most important decisions that needs to be made leading up to the first Test match, and whoever gets left out it is going to be tough on them.

"Not only have they both performed at the highest level, Hadds has a lot of experience and has been successful over a long period of time, Wadey's done every single thing in his power to make the most of his opportunity - he got a hundred in his last Test match. So it's going to be a tough decision. I know the selectors and I will be discussing that over the next couple of weeks.

"We need to talk about it, the selection panel need to talk about it. We need to see both sides, and we'll pick the best XI for that game, that opposition, those conditions. That's the only way you can do it. It's not personal, it's about what we think is the best team for that first Test.

"It has been a tough time for Hadds - any single one of us would've made the exact same decision that Brad did in regards to going home and making sure he was there to support his family. He certainly knows how I feel about that and I have openly supported him on that.

"The other side is Matthew Wade cannot do anything more to be selected for that first Test. He has performed as well as any player, he has made the most of his opportunities, he's an amazing talent, and he's going to be a big player for Australian cricket over a long period of time."

Since his early exit from the Caribbean, Haddin has undergone a full pre-season with New South Wales and made a century for the Blues in their Sheffield Shield match against Tasmania at Bankstown Oval before flying to South Africa to lead the Sydney Sixers in the Twenty20 Champions League. Wade, meanwhile, had his struggles on the ODI tour of England and had limited batting opportunities in the UAE and Sri Lanka, though he kept soundly throughout.

However a match-turning innings of 89 for Victoria against Queensland on a lively Gabba pitch last week may prove pivotal in the duel for the keeping spot, as Wade demonstrated his capacity for making runs in the sort of pace-friendly environment likely to be relished by South Africa's vaunted trio of Dale Steyn, Morne Morkel and Vernon Philander next month.

Ricky Ponting, having watched Haddin's entire Test career from up close, said the 35-year-old still had plenty to offer, but acknowledged the difficulty of the decision. "There are arguments for both at the moment, Hadds is a great mate of mine and we've got lots of off-field memories," Ponting said. "I saw him up close and personal a couple of weeks ago in the Shield game in Bankstown and he played beautifully, hit the ball really well and kept very, very well.

"So I know his game's in really good shape. Then you look at Matty Wade, he has really grabbed his opportunity, made a brilliant hundred in the Caribbean, he has had a great game up in Brisbane last week, so there are two great arguments to be put there as far as selection is concerned. Every Australian side that's picked, there are always a few guys who think they're unlucky or hard done by, and one of those two guys is going to miss selection for Brisbane.

"I've got no doubt in my mind that Hadds has a lot to offer, and I saw it up close in that Shield game. I don't think anyone will be writing Brad off, he's a great character to have around the team, and he's an unbelievable talent with bat and gloves."

The most influential voice at the selection table may well be that of Marsh, the former gloveman who has worked extensively with Haddin in the past. More recently Marsh was a tour mentor for Wade, spending plenty of time with the younger man on the West Indies tour as he fought an ultimately successful battle to adapt to extremely unfamiliar and challenging conditions for both wicketkeeping and batting.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Meety on October 18, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    @ygkd on (October 17 2012, 08:16 AM GMT) - from what I've seen of Rahim - you're a 100% correct. He is a neat little keeper, who I think SHOULD improve as a batsmen, as it must be hard forever coming in at 5/70 or so. His batting has improved a fair bit over the last couple of years although I think his keeping has tapered off a bit!

  • MenFromMarts on October 17, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    @Hammond I like your team. Back to Haddin and Wade in same team. This is a little out there but now that WK's are better with the bat what a bout a rotations system WITHIN a Test Match. i.e Wade keeps for the quicks with the new ball as he is more athletic. As the ball gets older and the spinners come in to play Haddin takes the gloves and uses his sledging techniques to gnaw at the batsmen. Everyone says it is the most gruelling position in test cricket so why not have two of them. If we always do what we we've always done we only ever get what we always have.

  • HUJ_MA on October 17, 2012, 10:05 GMT

    Wade is young talented and also skillful but Haddin is far more better than him in every field he is not as much steady as haddin is.especially in test matches.when the importance of steadiness is more value able so Haddin is a perfect choice

  • ygkd on October 17, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    Mushfiqur Rahim, like pretty much all the Bangladeshi national keepers, is a quality gloveman to spin. It's common sense really - without their spinners Bangladesh's bowling would be of a much lower standard (Sri Lanka have Prassana for a similar reason - they need him to be a wicket-taker first and foremost). Rahim's also been national captain for over a year. He's also only recently turned 24. That's right. Just 24. Rubbish him if you will but don't expect anyone who truly values a stumping technique to agree.

  • Hammond on October 17, 2012, 1:38 GMT

    @Okakaboka- okey you called me on it. Firstly I follow England so would have a vested interest in seeing the weakest possible side going to the UK next June. But saying that, here is my best current (if fit) Aussie test team, I care little for the other forms. Liam Davis, Ed Cowan, MC (capt), Rob Quiney, MHussey, Watson, P Nevill, R Harris, Jackson Bird, Cummins, Lyon. 3 straight pace bowlers and an all rounder, MC & Lyon as the spin option, and decent technique in both the openers and the wicketkeeper. And Ponting sacked ;)

  • Okakaboka on October 16, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    @Hammond.. Having read your bloggs for a while now...there is no doubt you are trying to get into the heads of selectors if they ever read these bloggs. You wouldn't pick Siddle? Good one. What about Pattinson? Would you really select old fumble fingers, the worst of all State keepers in the Aussie team??? How about putting up YOUR best Aussie team. Then we will know whether it is about selecting a team that England can actually beat. Haddin ahead of Wade.....Really!!! I'd have Hartley, Paine, Nevill, Triffit, Carters, Handscomb, and even Uncle Ted ahead of Haddin!

  • hmmmmm... on October 16, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    Mark Le bherz - wade plays for Victoria!

  • on October 16, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    Bring back Rod Marsh if you have to go for oldies

  • scottyg on October 16, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    @Hammond- surely Wade would get a go in most test sides at the moment, with the possible exceptions of India and England. Sides like WI (Randim), NZ (Van Wyk) and SA (AB). As for the bangladeshi keeper- mushfiqur rahim averages 29 with the bat in FC cricket, while wade averages 40, and his glovework is improving. He would be one of the first choices in a bangladeshi side.

  • scottyg on October 16, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    why would you bother bringing haddin back- they should be looking to get rid of the older players, and unlike ponting and hussey, there is an alternative to haddin that is a lot better than him. Wade has shown he can play on any type of wicket, so he should be given the first opportunity. haddin has been on his way down since that charging cut shot to a length ball in the 47 debacle.

  • Meety on October 18, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    @ygkd on (October 17 2012, 08:16 AM GMT) - from what I've seen of Rahim - you're a 100% correct. He is a neat little keeper, who I think SHOULD improve as a batsmen, as it must be hard forever coming in at 5/70 or so. His batting has improved a fair bit over the last couple of years although I think his keeping has tapered off a bit!

  • MenFromMarts on October 17, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    @Hammond I like your team. Back to Haddin and Wade in same team. This is a little out there but now that WK's are better with the bat what a bout a rotations system WITHIN a Test Match. i.e Wade keeps for the quicks with the new ball as he is more athletic. As the ball gets older and the spinners come in to play Haddin takes the gloves and uses his sledging techniques to gnaw at the batsmen. Everyone says it is the most gruelling position in test cricket so why not have two of them. If we always do what we we've always done we only ever get what we always have.

  • HUJ_MA on October 17, 2012, 10:05 GMT

    Wade is young talented and also skillful but Haddin is far more better than him in every field he is not as much steady as haddin is.especially in test matches.when the importance of steadiness is more value able so Haddin is a perfect choice

  • ygkd on October 17, 2012, 8:16 GMT

    Mushfiqur Rahim, like pretty much all the Bangladeshi national keepers, is a quality gloveman to spin. It's common sense really - without their spinners Bangladesh's bowling would be of a much lower standard (Sri Lanka have Prassana for a similar reason - they need him to be a wicket-taker first and foremost). Rahim's also been national captain for over a year. He's also only recently turned 24. That's right. Just 24. Rubbish him if you will but don't expect anyone who truly values a stumping technique to agree.

  • Hammond on October 17, 2012, 1:38 GMT

    @Okakaboka- okey you called me on it. Firstly I follow England so would have a vested interest in seeing the weakest possible side going to the UK next June. But saying that, here is my best current (if fit) Aussie test team, I care little for the other forms. Liam Davis, Ed Cowan, MC (capt), Rob Quiney, MHussey, Watson, P Nevill, R Harris, Jackson Bird, Cummins, Lyon. 3 straight pace bowlers and an all rounder, MC & Lyon as the spin option, and decent technique in both the openers and the wicketkeeper. And Ponting sacked ;)

  • Okakaboka on October 16, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    @Hammond.. Having read your bloggs for a while now...there is no doubt you are trying to get into the heads of selectors if they ever read these bloggs. You wouldn't pick Siddle? Good one. What about Pattinson? Would you really select old fumble fingers, the worst of all State keepers in the Aussie team??? How about putting up YOUR best Aussie team. Then we will know whether it is about selecting a team that England can actually beat. Haddin ahead of Wade.....Really!!! I'd have Hartley, Paine, Nevill, Triffit, Carters, Handscomb, and even Uncle Ted ahead of Haddin!

  • hmmmmm... on October 16, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    Mark Le bherz - wade plays for Victoria!

  • on October 16, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    Bring back Rod Marsh if you have to go for oldies

  • scottyg on October 16, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    @Hammond- surely Wade would get a go in most test sides at the moment, with the possible exceptions of India and England. Sides like WI (Randim), NZ (Van Wyk) and SA (AB). As for the bangladeshi keeper- mushfiqur rahim averages 29 with the bat in FC cricket, while wade averages 40, and his glovework is improving. He would be one of the first choices in a bangladeshi side.

  • scottyg on October 16, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    why would you bother bringing haddin back- they should be looking to get rid of the older players, and unlike ponting and hussey, there is an alternative to haddin that is a lot better than him. Wade has shown he can play on any type of wicket, so he should be given the first opportunity. haddin has been on his way down since that charging cut shot to a length ball in the 47 debacle.

  • on October 16, 2012, 8:14 GMT

    Haddin- Wade just don't have the technique.

  • MenFromMarts on October 16, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    Pick both !! Cowan out - Haddin to open. Wade at 7 or 8. Personally I think Tom Triffitt is better than both of them.

  • indicricket on October 16, 2012, 5:21 GMT

    Wade the best keeper in the world at the moment? In tests that is surely Jayawardene. Ask Healy.

  • anuradea on October 16, 2012, 4:57 GMT

    Pick both of them as both can hold a spot with their batting alone. # 6 spot had been a problem in the past and this is the perfect solution as both seem to be in form. Watson, Warner, Pontin, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Wade, Jonson, Siddle, Hilfenhaus Lyon,

  • on October 16, 2012, 2:47 GMT

    @ Kris Ballantyne: That is so wrong it's funny. Where do people come up with stuff like that? Tim Paine was widely considered to be a BETTER gloveman than Haddin and Paine (and Gilchrist) before he broke his finger. The reason he is not currently in contention is because he has only recently returned after a long layoff and still has to prove that he will get back to his best. It will be tough for him to play test cricket again now that he has to re-start behind Haddin and Wade in the pecking order, but not beyond him.

    For me, Wade will keep his spot ahead of Haddin due to Haddin's age. It doesn't make sense to reinstate a 35 year old in one of the most physically demanding positions in cricket. Wade has done enough to stay there.

  • landl47 on October 16, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    Haddin is 35 next week- 10 years older than Wade- and in the next 1 1/2 years there are consecutive Ashes series. Unless Australia are prepared to commit to him forthat period, then Wade needs to be getting experience now. Wade struggled in England in June/July and although he has potential he can't be expected to just walk in and take over. Nothing against Haddin, but even at his best he was (obviously) no Gilchrist and at 35/36 he isn't going to be getting any better.

  • on October 16, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    Why no talk of Hartly best keeper in sheild for last 5 years also had a killer season with the bat last year looks like there right when they say you have to play for NSW to make the Australian team

  • PFEL on October 16, 2012, 0:37 GMT

    Hartley is very good at LOOKING like a great keeper. He loves the theatrics.

  • Meety on October 15, 2012, 23:24 GMT

    @ygkd on (October 15 2012, 21:28 PM GMT) - in keeping terms, I always thought that Seccombe was the best, whilst Manou was pretty good, on pure Keeping I would of gone Seccombe - the same goes with Hartley! I do agree re: Paine he is a good keeper & average batsmen.

  • PFEL on October 15, 2012, 22:27 GMT

    Matt Prior is a decent bat (still not as good as Haddin/Wade), but a terrible keeper

  • RandyOZ on October 15, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    Seriously we dont want Haddin CA. Wade is probably the best gloveman in the world at the moment and can wield the willow well.

  • ygkd on October 15, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    Tim Paine's keeping "absolute rubbish"? I sometimes wonder what people are really watching when they see a keeper. Is it their footwork? Their glovework? Their anticipation? None of the above? Paine is a good keeper, not the best I've ever seen, but hardly rubbish. Hartley is fine, Ludeman is far better than he's generally given credit for, Ronchi is a loss to the country's stocks and Triffitt is improving. But then some still say Manou was rubbish too - in my book he was the best in the country and has not been equalled since.

  • on October 15, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    Tim Paine isn't being considered because his keeping is absolute rubbish. He's handy with a bat, but not good enough to make the side as a batsman alone but his keeping is so far behind Wade and Haddin that it's not even worth discussing him.

  • pat_one_back on October 15, 2012, 20:22 GMT

    Wade's done well but mainly performed in line with expectation, Haddin went to WI in front of him and I can't see that enough's happened to change that order? W's form in England was a bit dubious against the swinging ball whilst Haddin's offside driving game has served very well on past trips, Haddin gets the gloves is my prediction with Wade sent back to keep pressure on him.

  • on October 15, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    PFEL... Ummm... Matt Prior called to refute your claim.

  • RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on October 15, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    if wade is not included , he still has age on his side. But if haddin is dropped , it may end his test career , which would be harsh becos he was anyways supposed to play in wi and went home only becos of a familial situation

  • Gordo85 on October 15, 2012, 13:46 GMT

    To me at this stage the only one who could replace Wade would be the forgotten man Chris Hartley. The man is proberly in better form at the moment than Haddin and in the Shield Final last year he played a blinder made tones of runs and yet it just shows us performance is not important anymore. Because if it was you would have Hartley infront of Haddin to replace Wade if he doesn't do well.

  • on October 15, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Clark involved in selecting his mates is precisely why Australia is no longer a serious threat in world cricket. Australia definitely have the best players and great depth. What they no longer have that has been present for 3 decades up till now is a great captain able to generate victories. Until somebody shows the courage to get the captaincy corrected Australia will continue to be just a very good " also ran" team.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on October 15, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    Where's Tim Paine anyone? I heard England are looking to sell Craig Kieswetter if the price is right... Any offers Aus? If all else fails, one of Clarke/Watson/M. Hussey will have to put the gloves on... that's the only 3 decent batsmen Aus. have at the mo.

  • Beertjie on October 15, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    Yep, Punter, "Every Australian side that's picked, there are always a few guys who think they're unlucky or hard done by, and one of those two guys is going to miss selection for Brisbane." Chris Rogers was such a one many years ago, but if he starts showing decent form this season, I hope he gets selected despite him not being "a great mate of mine".

  • yogesh.gg on October 15, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    I liked Tim Paine when aus toured india last time. Why are they not even considering him ?

  • PFEL on October 15, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    Other than Sangakkara, there is no better keeper batsman in the world up to the standard of either Wade or Haddin. And it is a very tough decision, but Wade MUST be selected. It's hard on Haddin but that's life.

  • whitesXI on October 15, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    @Hammond - I'm actually pretty excited about Aus's next generation, we've seen how our new bowlers are flourishing in the post argus era of Aus cricket and I'm sure the likes of M Marsh J Burns, P Handscomb, P Hughes are going to progress nicely over the next 2-3 years. That said I'd agree that England still has our measure for the moment, but Aus could be looking at a new golden era just around the corner. So I guess you should enjoy your success while it lasts, even now Eng have lost the T20 champions title and the no.1 test ranking, won't be long before England have their own "rebuilding" period

  • on October 15, 2012, 12:00 GMT

    Interesting to see how long will the selector captain Clark will play for Australia. All the Aussies captains Alan Border, Mark Talylor, Steve Waugh & RTP were different in their approach and body language. Clark, how long is he gonna last?

  • Ozcricketwriter on October 15, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    Wow how stupid. HADDIN IS NOT IN FORM! He scored 1 century amongst a series of single figure scores - averaging sub 20 in first class cricket this summer. Wade has been a bit touch and go but is miles ahead of Haddin. This is just absurd. Haddin isn't knocking on the door or anything. I sincerely hope that they aren't seriously considering Haddin.

  • bobagorof on October 15, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Congrats to Haddin on his hundred in his last first-class match, but with Wade being the incumbent and also having scored 89 in his last match, and generally considered to be a much better 'Keeper, he'd have to have the inside running surely? That's not even considering factors like regenerating an ageing batting lineup.

  • on October 15, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    no one can write off hads experience and skill

  • Meety on October 15, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    @rickyvoncanterbury on (October 15 2012, 10:42 AM GMT) - don't worry about OzzyHammond he is Prior's flatmate in London. Doesn't have the foggiest about how cricket is played in Oz. He knows either Haddin or Wade will out perform the Saffa - Prior at the next Ashes!

  • RVC-38 on October 15, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    @ its funny hammond you are incorrect at every commer, Surly Haddin, Young blokes no chop, wade no other test team, including Banladesh, even the other one "wishfull thinking "well you still post on Aussie articles dont you, 6 errors out of 6

  • RVC-38 on October 15, 2012, 10:28 GMT

    @Hammond.... Wrong again....

  • Hammond on October 15, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    @whitesXI- don't care much either way, they will both be easy to get out next June, just following the recent Australian trend of picking it's more senior citizens (maybe because none of the younger generation can cut it.. :)

  • Hammond on October 15, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    @rickyvoncanterbury- wishful thinking on your part possibly? Wade wouldn't get a go in any other test side, and that includes Bangladesh.

  • whitesXI on October 15, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    @Hammond if you think it best for Aus cricket to select Haddin, it is undeniable proof that the best man for the job is Wade.

  • McGoogly on October 15, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    Nobody wants to watch Haddin play ever again. Surely the selectors must read polls, etc

  • RVC-38 on October 15, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @Hammond... Wrong again ......

  • Hammond on October 15, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    You would have to go with Haddin surely! None of the younger blokes are much chop.

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  • Hammond on October 15, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    You would have to go with Haddin surely! None of the younger blokes are much chop.

  • RVC-38 on October 15, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @Hammond... Wrong again ......

  • McGoogly on October 15, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    Nobody wants to watch Haddin play ever again. Surely the selectors must read polls, etc

  • whitesXI on October 15, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    @Hammond if you think it best for Aus cricket to select Haddin, it is undeniable proof that the best man for the job is Wade.

  • Hammond on October 15, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    @rickyvoncanterbury- wishful thinking on your part possibly? Wade wouldn't get a go in any other test side, and that includes Bangladesh.

  • Hammond on October 15, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    @whitesXI- don't care much either way, they will both be easy to get out next June, just following the recent Australian trend of picking it's more senior citizens (maybe because none of the younger generation can cut it.. :)

  • RVC-38 on October 15, 2012, 10:28 GMT

    @Hammond.... Wrong again....

  • RVC-38 on October 15, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    @ its funny hammond you are incorrect at every commer, Surly Haddin, Young blokes no chop, wade no other test team, including Banladesh, even the other one "wishfull thinking "well you still post on Aussie articles dont you, 6 errors out of 6

  • Meety on October 15, 2012, 11:13 GMT

    @rickyvoncanterbury on (October 15 2012, 10:42 AM GMT) - don't worry about OzzyHammond he is Prior's flatmate in London. Doesn't have the foggiest about how cricket is played in Oz. He knows either Haddin or Wade will out perform the Saffa - Prior at the next Ashes!

  • on October 15, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    no one can write off hads experience and skill