The Bradman Oration 2012 October 24, 2012

Tending to Australia's grassroots

Ricky Ponting, Ed Cowan and Mel Jones reflect on the importance of club cricket
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There is more to Australian cricket than the baggy green and the Sheffield Shield. After Gideon Haigh's Bradman Oration, three Australian players discussed why club cricket is so important.

Michael Clarke played club cricket a couple of weeks ago. It was a news story. Imagine the novelty of seeing Australia's captain turning out with the regulars at a suburban ground in Sydney. His appearances for New South Wales have been few and far between in the past few years, let alone for Wests. Among Australia's elite cricketers, that is a common theme. In part, it is due to the international team's rigorous schedule. Who can find time for a club game when Australia play nearly 100 days of international cricket per year, on top of state commitments?

But a disconnect between club and country has been occupying the minds of Cricket Australia for some time now. Administrators have been canvassing clubs for ideas about what needs to be done to help cricket's foundations. International players have been encouraged to return to their clubs when they can. It's all about the grassroots. The importance of club cricket was the theme of Gideon Haigh's Bradman Oration on Wednesday. After the speech, three international cricketers - Ricky Ponting, Ed Cowan and Mel Jones - sat in the ballroom of the Langham Hotel, one of Melbourne's finest five-star establishments, and reflected on what club cricket had meant to them.

For Ponting, arguably the best batsman Australia has produced since Bradman, club cricket was everything when he was young. The Mowbray Cricket Club in Launceston was the centre of his universe. His father, Graeme, had been a first-grade cricketer in his younger days, and came out of retirement to play in the third grade when Ricky was starting out as an 11-year-old. Ponting is an all-time great but his story could be that of any amateur player anywhere in Australia.

"My club survived on volunteers," Ponting said. "We're a very working-class club that basically was run and operated on how much money we took over the bar on a Saturday afternoon. There were a few people who would put their $2 in to get a beer out of the fridge and they'd take $5 out. We've done things pretty tough at my club. I'm very proud of my upbringing and where I came from.

"I remember as a nine- or ten-year-old boy, getting on my BMX and riding all over northern Tasmania to find wherever the Mowbray Cricket Club was playing. I was always the first there. I'd be sitting in the change rooms when the boys got there and when they went out on to the field I'd be going through their bags and picking their bats up and putting their gloves on, and making sure I put them back in exactly the same position again so they didn't know.

"They'd come off at lunch and I'd be sitting in the corner waiting for the boys to come in. Then after play I'd sit around and listen to the stories they were telling about the day's cricket. That's where I learnt the game. I learnt from my club-mates and older guys who had been through many on-field battles. Through listening and watching and learning, I think a lot of what I learnt from them is part of what I am now as a cricketer."

Ponting put something back into his club as soon as he was able. When he emerged as a first-class cricketer, while still a teenager, he was sponsored by a local Launceston bakery. He appeared in a TV commercial for the bakery and he donated his fee to the Mowbray Cricket Club. It was enough to build new club-rooms. Mowbray had made Ponting, and he wanted to return the favour.

Cowan also has fond memories of life as a teenage club cricketer. As a 15-year-old, he started playing with Sydney University so he could play with his brother, a uni student. As a kid in a university environment, he learned quickly the ways of the world. He also learned that a cricket club doesn't run by magic. As every volunteer at every sporting club around Australia knows, keeping the cogs turning is a hard, and sometimes thankless, task.

"At the time when I went to Sydney Uni it was really a struggling cricket club in the competition," Cowan said. "There was talk of mergers, there was talk of being kicked out of the competition. At that point of time it was a very amateur club being run essentially by undergraduates. Some very good people behind the club got the club moving forward, and it's done a full circle. It's probably now the premier cricket club in Sydney, has a very effective management and some great players are coming out. I think for 50 years they didn't produce a first-class cricketer and all of a sudden they've had five or six in the last five years. It shows what a cricket club can do when it gets its act together."

Cowan now lives in Hobart and plays for the Glenorchy Cricket Club, and for Tasmania. But he feels more a part of the Sydney University community than his new club. Every Saturday he texts his old mates to see how the club fared. A group of his Sydney club-mates flew to Melbourne for the Boxing Day Test last year and watched Cowan make his Test debut. They had seen him through his ups and downs, progressing from fringe state player to a recipient of the baggy green.

The sense of community provided by club cricket isn't exclusive to men's teams. Jones represents the oldest women's cricket club in the world, the Essendon Maribyrnong Park side. For 108 years it has been providing female cricketers with a base. Some go on to play for their state, a few for their country. They all call their club home.

"As much as most Australian cricketers would like to play more and more international games, the beauty of it is we spend 90% of our time in club land," Jones said. "When you speak to most of the girls, they have some of the strongest connections to club cricket. It is really like a family. We probably know our people and our club members more so than the guys do.

"Last Friday night I put the hessian and the covers down while all the young kids were doing something else, it's all the same things [as the men]. You go through the fact that the club-rooms are rat-infested, you try to clean the barbeque, all those sorts of things. All those things are exactly the same. We used to wear culottes so we'd get bad wedgies. That's a bit different to the guys, but overall it's the same sort of community."

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So what is the future role of these clubs, these mini-societies that have allowed Australia's finest players to blossom? For decades, they were the only avenue a player could take if he or she wanted to progress to state cricket, and ultimately to represent Australia. These days, that is not always the case. Skilled junior players can be identified early and are whisked off to under-age carnivals, where their talent is further spotted. Names are pencilled in as future first-class players and piles of club runs are not a pre-requisite. It's an issue that worries Cowan.

"[We need to] make sure that club cricket is still the most important pathway to first-class cricket," Cowan said. "I think there has been a tendency to maybe veer away from that and look at youth carnivals and these kind of things. But a strong club competition where young players can play with men and learn about the game and learn about themselves, I think that's the most important thing for Australian cricket.

"If there's been a regret in my life it's the fact that I haven't had a chance to be around club cricket more"
Ricky Ponting

"I've seen people come into state squads who haven't done particularly well in club cricket, because they've done well in youth cricket, and they haven't quite understood the game or how to succeed at the game. I think club cricket gives people that base. You know if you've succeeded at club cricket you're ready for first-class cricket. I think that's the biggest challenge, to make sure it's the most important pathway."

Reconnecting Australia's international players with their clubs can only help in that regard. Last year, Cricket Australia asked its players to ring some randomly selected club cricket volunteers from all over Australia and thank them for their hard work. Coincidentally, Ponting called a woman from Mowbray, who was thrilled to hear from him.

"The four or five other guys who I rang thought their mates had set them up on a prank," Ponting said. "Thirty seconds into the conversation they were saying 'mate, I'm busy, I've got some work to do, I've got to go'. I'm not sure how it went down or what the feedback was like back at Cricket Australia but I thought it was fantastic, one to be recognising the volunteers that have made our clubs survive."

Having the international and state players return to their clubs as often as possible is another goal. Last time Ponting played for Mowbray, nearly 5000 people turned up to watch the match. But that was seven years ago. International commitments, combined with the fact that he now lives in Sydney, have prevented Ponting from playing for his club since then. That's something he wants to change, and he has a genuine passion to give back to the game that has provided him with so much.

"If there's been a regret in my life it's the fact that I haven't had a chance to be around that club more," Ponting said. "The way that my life has been, being a professional cricketer at the age of 17, being on the road and away from home for most of that period of time, you just don't get as much time back at our clubs as we would like. I know that's a big thing that has been spoken about in the last 12 months since the Argus review, international players being back in their states and playing more, and what that hopefully means is you can get back to your clubs more, and be involved with a younger generation of people.

"Cricket and young cricketers need to be able to see their heroes. It would be great if I could spend more time around my club, or around primary schools, promoting the game and giving these young kids something to aspire to in the flesh. I've always been passionate about that. Once my life starts to wind down a bit as far as cricket is concerned I'll make sure I'm doing that, because I feel that's a role of mine."

And you never know. The next Ricky Ponting could be in one of those schools, or he could be sneaking into a club-room somewhere around the country, absorbing everything he hears. All the more reason for Australian cricket to tend to its grassroots.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on October 27, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    The difference in between the up and coming young batsmen in England and Australia is that the English players are younger. Taylor, Bairstow, Hales, Root etc are all in their early 20s. The Aussie batsmen coming into the international side are older like Bailey, Forrest, Cowan, Klinger and most have pretty average records. Out of all the younger Aussies batsmen Burns is the only one with a decent record. These problems are due to young Aussie batsmen not playing enough professional first class cricket. Without playing a large quantity of first class cricket it takes longer for them to mature. Compare the records of Bairstow and Burns. They are the same age but Bairstow has played 3 times as many games. James Taylor is only 22 but he has already played 81 first class games. Young batsmen are not going to develop playing grade cricket against weekend medium pacers! Grade cricket isn't what it was and you can no longer expect amateur structures to develop professional athletes!

  • Meety on October 27, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    @Nomad82 on (October 27 2012, 08:02 AM GMT) - you are probably right re: recruitment, although I think a large part of the gap is a hangover from the Ozzy era of dominance. We didn't really see much new talent come through over the decade & it's only fairly recently that the States have invested a fair bit in youth!

  • Nomad82 on October 27, 2012, 8:02 GMT

    Great stuff Meety, John Duffield, thoughtful comments. From a batsmen average, I think the quality of Australian batsmen will benefit from the high pace bowling standards and variety in Sheffield Shield at the moment (although quality spin exposure is the elephant in the room). I'd much rather see an emphasis on 1st Class 4 day games than 120 balls of slogging, but thems the times, and it might help cricket keep a stronger talent recruitment against AFL for the top level athletes looking to secure dollars - a few years back cricket lost a lot of talent there, possibly part of the reason we've not seen as much talent as we'd like in that cutrent mid-20s age group

  • Meety on October 27, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    @John Duffield - the one advantage a County season does have is the variety & International flavour. Where the Shield is superior is that it is the FC comp that most mimics Test conditions. We can go on about the pro's & the cons of the two competitions & be right to a certain point. The point I am making is that the funnell of talent for the nations of England, Sth Africa & Oz are not too dissimilar in quality. A comparison with India's batsmen & you would see young blokes with averages pushing 60 - but where will that get them in the Test world? In going further - I would say that there is minimal difference in the talent pools between Oz & Eng in batting & you haven't refuted any of what I said. Root & Hales, batsmen you have mentioned - have resumes no better than most of the comparable Oz batsmen & better credentialled ones like Morgan & Bairstow are no better than Khawaja, Neville or Cosgrove. IMO the hype is that Oz have no batsmen & I think that is false.

  • on October 26, 2012, 22:47 GMT

    I think that Australian domestic players need to play much more professional first class cricket in much more varied conditions. You cannot rely on the amateur club game to be nurture talent in the way it once did, that is unrealistic in this day and age. Firstly I would expand the Sheffield Shield with a Canberra and NSW Country team. Then I would make sure there was a greater variety in pitch type. Fast & bouncy in Brisbane and Perth, spinning pitches in Sydney and Adelaide, green seamers in Hobart etc. I would also introduce one overseas player per side. Young players need to be exposed to as much professional first class cricket as possible not stuck playing against club men on the weekends or in state second teams. Also I think the Big Bash is a massive mistake for Australia cricket and has fractured the domestic structure. Excellence in the first class game is going to be marginalised by players in favour of the big money attraction of T20. Not a good idea at all.

  • on October 26, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Don't believe the hype about 'South Africans' playing for England. To be fair Trott & Pietersen are ringers but the other players born outside of England grew up and were developed in England. Strauss, Compton, Prior etc. It is not where a player is born it is where a player learns their cricket. Root is not ready for Test cricket and was lucky to be picked. Also he happens to play most of his cricket on seaming pitches at Headingley. From what I saw of Australia and Australia A last summer the batting was weak. Also the hard flat pitches in Sheffield Shield seem to produce players with glaring technical flaws. Smith and Hughes being two very notable cases. In terms of County Cricket V Sheffield Shield I would say Div 1 County Cricket is of a higher standard. Also because of the variety in pitch type, the variety in bowling types, overseas players and the number of matches the County game is a better nursery for Test cricketers. Especially batsmen and spin bowlers.

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 22:19 GMT

    @John Duffield - to support my claim regarding the variability of County cricket standards - Brendan Nash, a Shield journeyman & former WI batsmen, just carved out 900 runs in the county season at a level he never consistantly reached in Oz. P Jacques (one of my fav. cricketers), who was way past his use-by date in Oz - barely able to average 30 over his last few Shield seasons, goes back to England & carves 800 runs @ 44. On a bit of a stretch, Chris Rogers averaged over 40 in the recent County season & currently (5 innings) is only averaging 29 & is 31st on the run-scoring list. A further stretch is the performances of the respective County & National performances England produced in T20 cricket. Oz have featured prominantly (led by bowling). In the Shield, our worst bowling attack is Sth Oz, who have 3 international bowlers in their line up + Botha (George, Christian & Lyon) + a left armer in Putland who IMO is not far off Test quality. Not easy scoring runs in Shield cricket!

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    I did the numbers on this very issue last year & the statistical differences between the "youthful/untried" England batsmen v Oz batsmen were very similar. England have the two better quality batsmen JTaylor & Bairstow, however, Oz have batsmen like Neville & Cosgrove who are statistically similar. You mentioned Hales, tell me how he is better than Davis, Klinger or Smith???? (I'll concede on Forrest). What needs to be considered is that - as most nuetral observers would concede, Oz atm have a lot of depth in quality pace bowling at the moment, & conditions over the last 2 years has led to difficult batting conditions, so I would suggest that some of the Oz batting stats are a bit better than what they look too. England have recently had to call upon Compton into the Test side, statistically he is equal to Cosgrove, with Cossie having a superior tons per innings ratio. The reality is, if you comapre with India, we all should be scared as they have tons of batsmen with 50+ averages!!!!

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 21:46 GMT

    @John Duffield - England is NOT a good a comparison on any level as their players are drawn (on significant levels) from outside of their borders. You mention Root, tell me how his FC stats are better than Burns? England have two batsmen in their squad to play India - that would struggle to make an Oz A-team in Root & Morgan. How many ENgland batsmen not in the Test side, currently playing County cricket have better stats than Smith's ave of 41? I don't believe that comparisons are easy to make between the Shield & County cricket seasons. IMO - the standard of County cricket is immensely variable. Included in FC stats are matches against Minor Counties, & some 2nd Div teams can be quite weak, the List A games include a "rejects" team the Unicorns & teams of variable strength from Scotland, Netherlands & Ireland. Don't get me wrong, County cricket is the best place for an Ozzy batsmen to go to "finishing school", & good cricket is played. TBC

  • on October 26, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    Meety. I am not really talking about U19s cricket. Mens' cricket and U19s is chalk and cheese. The key transitional development phase for a batsman is when they go from an amateur or junior pro to being a consistent run scorer in first class cricket. In terms of Australia you just have to look at the batsmen under the age of 25 in the Sheffield Shield and compare them to their counterparts in County Cricket. Look at the players they have called in the A team and the full side. Players called up were in their mid to late 20s and most have had pretty ordinary first class careers. Peter Forrest, Liam Davis, Klinger, Steve Smith. All pretty average. Even the better players like Bailey and Cowan lack heavy run scoring records. Meanwhile England can call upon youngsters like Taylor, Bairstow, Hales or Root. Either that or proven run scorers like Compton or Hildreth. Austrlia's strength used to be young batsmen. It is not any more I am afraid.

  • on October 27, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    The difference in between the up and coming young batsmen in England and Australia is that the English players are younger. Taylor, Bairstow, Hales, Root etc are all in their early 20s. The Aussie batsmen coming into the international side are older like Bailey, Forrest, Cowan, Klinger and most have pretty average records. Out of all the younger Aussies batsmen Burns is the only one with a decent record. These problems are due to young Aussie batsmen not playing enough professional first class cricket. Without playing a large quantity of first class cricket it takes longer for them to mature. Compare the records of Bairstow and Burns. They are the same age but Bairstow has played 3 times as many games. James Taylor is only 22 but he has already played 81 first class games. Young batsmen are not going to develop playing grade cricket against weekend medium pacers! Grade cricket isn't what it was and you can no longer expect amateur structures to develop professional athletes!

  • Meety on October 27, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    @Nomad82 on (October 27 2012, 08:02 AM GMT) - you are probably right re: recruitment, although I think a large part of the gap is a hangover from the Ozzy era of dominance. We didn't really see much new talent come through over the decade & it's only fairly recently that the States have invested a fair bit in youth!

  • Nomad82 on October 27, 2012, 8:02 GMT

    Great stuff Meety, John Duffield, thoughtful comments. From a batsmen average, I think the quality of Australian batsmen will benefit from the high pace bowling standards and variety in Sheffield Shield at the moment (although quality spin exposure is the elephant in the room). I'd much rather see an emphasis on 1st Class 4 day games than 120 balls of slogging, but thems the times, and it might help cricket keep a stronger talent recruitment against AFL for the top level athletes looking to secure dollars - a few years back cricket lost a lot of talent there, possibly part of the reason we've not seen as much talent as we'd like in that cutrent mid-20s age group

  • Meety on October 27, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    @John Duffield - the one advantage a County season does have is the variety & International flavour. Where the Shield is superior is that it is the FC comp that most mimics Test conditions. We can go on about the pro's & the cons of the two competitions & be right to a certain point. The point I am making is that the funnell of talent for the nations of England, Sth Africa & Oz are not too dissimilar in quality. A comparison with India's batsmen & you would see young blokes with averages pushing 60 - but where will that get them in the Test world? In going further - I would say that there is minimal difference in the talent pools between Oz & Eng in batting & you haven't refuted any of what I said. Root & Hales, batsmen you have mentioned - have resumes no better than most of the comparable Oz batsmen & better credentialled ones like Morgan & Bairstow are no better than Khawaja, Neville or Cosgrove. IMO the hype is that Oz have no batsmen & I think that is false.

  • on October 26, 2012, 22:47 GMT

    I think that Australian domestic players need to play much more professional first class cricket in much more varied conditions. You cannot rely on the amateur club game to be nurture talent in the way it once did, that is unrealistic in this day and age. Firstly I would expand the Sheffield Shield with a Canberra and NSW Country team. Then I would make sure there was a greater variety in pitch type. Fast & bouncy in Brisbane and Perth, spinning pitches in Sydney and Adelaide, green seamers in Hobart etc. I would also introduce one overseas player per side. Young players need to be exposed to as much professional first class cricket as possible not stuck playing against club men on the weekends or in state second teams. Also I think the Big Bash is a massive mistake for Australia cricket and has fractured the domestic structure. Excellence in the first class game is going to be marginalised by players in favour of the big money attraction of T20. Not a good idea at all.

  • on October 26, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Don't believe the hype about 'South Africans' playing for England. To be fair Trott & Pietersen are ringers but the other players born outside of England grew up and were developed in England. Strauss, Compton, Prior etc. It is not where a player is born it is where a player learns their cricket. Root is not ready for Test cricket and was lucky to be picked. Also he happens to play most of his cricket on seaming pitches at Headingley. From what I saw of Australia and Australia A last summer the batting was weak. Also the hard flat pitches in Sheffield Shield seem to produce players with glaring technical flaws. Smith and Hughes being two very notable cases. In terms of County Cricket V Sheffield Shield I would say Div 1 County Cricket is of a higher standard. Also because of the variety in pitch type, the variety in bowling types, overseas players and the number of matches the County game is a better nursery for Test cricketers. Especially batsmen and spin bowlers.

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 22:19 GMT

    @John Duffield - to support my claim regarding the variability of County cricket standards - Brendan Nash, a Shield journeyman & former WI batsmen, just carved out 900 runs in the county season at a level he never consistantly reached in Oz. P Jacques (one of my fav. cricketers), who was way past his use-by date in Oz - barely able to average 30 over his last few Shield seasons, goes back to England & carves 800 runs @ 44. On a bit of a stretch, Chris Rogers averaged over 40 in the recent County season & currently (5 innings) is only averaging 29 & is 31st on the run-scoring list. A further stretch is the performances of the respective County & National performances England produced in T20 cricket. Oz have featured prominantly (led by bowling). In the Shield, our worst bowling attack is Sth Oz, who have 3 international bowlers in their line up + Botha (George, Christian & Lyon) + a left armer in Putland who IMO is not far off Test quality. Not easy scoring runs in Shield cricket!

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    I did the numbers on this very issue last year & the statistical differences between the "youthful/untried" England batsmen v Oz batsmen were very similar. England have the two better quality batsmen JTaylor & Bairstow, however, Oz have batsmen like Neville & Cosgrove who are statistically similar. You mentioned Hales, tell me how he is better than Davis, Klinger or Smith???? (I'll concede on Forrest). What needs to be considered is that - as most nuetral observers would concede, Oz atm have a lot of depth in quality pace bowling at the moment, & conditions over the last 2 years has led to difficult batting conditions, so I would suggest that some of the Oz batting stats are a bit better than what they look too. England have recently had to call upon Compton into the Test side, statistically he is equal to Cosgrove, with Cossie having a superior tons per innings ratio. The reality is, if you comapre with India, we all should be scared as they have tons of batsmen with 50+ averages!!!!

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 21:46 GMT

    @John Duffield - England is NOT a good a comparison on any level as their players are drawn (on significant levels) from outside of their borders. You mention Root, tell me how his FC stats are better than Burns? England have two batsmen in their squad to play India - that would struggle to make an Oz A-team in Root & Morgan. How many ENgland batsmen not in the Test side, currently playing County cricket have better stats than Smith's ave of 41? I don't believe that comparisons are easy to make between the Shield & County cricket seasons. IMO - the standard of County cricket is immensely variable. Included in FC stats are matches against Minor Counties, & some 2nd Div teams can be quite weak, the List A games include a "rejects" team the Unicorns & teams of variable strength from Scotland, Netherlands & Ireland. Don't get me wrong, County cricket is the best place for an Ozzy batsmen to go to "finishing school", & good cricket is played. TBC

  • on October 26, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    Meety. I am not really talking about U19s cricket. Mens' cricket and U19s is chalk and cheese. The key transitional development phase for a batsman is when they go from an amateur or junior pro to being a consistent run scorer in first class cricket. In terms of Australia you just have to look at the batsmen under the age of 25 in the Sheffield Shield and compare them to their counterparts in County Cricket. Look at the players they have called in the A team and the full side. Players called up were in their mid to late 20s and most have had pretty ordinary first class careers. Peter Forrest, Liam Davis, Klinger, Steve Smith. All pretty average. Even the better players like Bailey and Cowan lack heavy run scoring records. Meanwhile England can call upon youngsters like Taylor, Bairstow, Hales or Root. Either that or proven run scorers like Compton or Hildreth. Austrlia's strength used to be young batsmen. It is not any more I am afraid.

  • on October 26, 2012, 3:58 GMT

    in my school days i used to play cricket every weekend in nearby ground...and still i wanted to play the way i used to during my school days...But now a days kids just wanted to spend time in playing PS2,3 xbox y box blah blah blah...sad moment

  • Meety on October 26, 2012, 3:55 GMT

    @John Duffield - just wondering - IF you are correct & "... The comparison with the young players coming through in England and South Africa is not flattering from an Australian perspective." - How do you explain the respective performances of those 3 countries at the last TWO U19 W/Cups?????? In the 2010 W/Cup only one of the three countries you mentioned made the Semi Finals, & then won it! That same country made this Year's final, having beaten BOTH England & Sth Africa along the way. Please don't tell me you are talking about younger youth as that is not realistically comparable!

  • on October 25, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    Unfortunately Australia aren't leading anything in cricket at the moment. What is most disturbing is the lack of quality young batsmen that are coming through into Sheffield Shield and therefore the national team. This is important because training young batsman is technically much more difficult than seam bowlers and as such is a true measure of how good a youth development system is. The complete absence of depth in terms of spin bowlers is also a worry. The comparison with the young players coming through in England and South Africa is not flattering from an Australian perspective.

    Player development is a long term issue and there are no quick fixes. Once Ricky Pointing and Mike Hussey retire the batting will be thread bare and will be for at least the 5 years after that. The batsmen in their early 20s just aren't good enough. Just look at the Sheffield Shield stats.

  • Front-Foot_lunge on October 25, 2012, 12:34 GMT

    Once again Australia leads. I see all of England's cricketers are now only famous for are "twitter parody accounts" and "dressing room discontent". At least in Australia, cricket still means cricket and not a 'vehicle for another book deal"

  • on October 25, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    I think Australia should be worried about player development. Just sticking with the traditional structures that have grown organically can come horribly unstuck. If children stop playing cricket in the numbers they used to out of their own volition then Australian cricket has a real problem on their hands. England suffered from a real player development crisis by the late 1980s and throughout the 1990s. That was linked to the fact that, for various reasons, from the early 1970s onwards cricket stopped being played in most state schools. Resulting damage to the game was massive and it has only just been dealt by the ECB. Maybe the Aussies should take a look at some of the initiatives that have worked in English cricket that have kept people in the elite end of the sport. The best example is probably the University cricket system which now produces a 1/4 of county players. With With 6 teams young players are no longer forced to chose between education and elite cricket and seems to work

  • Gizza on October 25, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    @Hammond, sadly that applies to the most of the middle-class world these days whether they are cricketing nations or not. Why play actual cricket in a park, street, beach or wherever when you can watch cricket on the TV/Computer, play Stick Cricket, talk about cricket on Facebook and Twitter and even post comments all day on Cricinfo which we are all guilty of! I'm personally felt this distinction between a cricket playing culture and cricket watching culture is relevant particularly in the case of India. How many of the 1.2 billion actually play club cricket and how does it compare to England, Australia and South Africa? Obviously there is more poverty and less opportunity but even so with their sheer numbers India should have an all-conquering side. Kolkata/Bengal seems to represent this problem the best since they have the biggest crowds but only one player of note (Ganguly) while Delhi, Mumbai and the southern states have smaller crowds but contribute more to the player pool.

  • PrasPunter on October 25, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    @Webba84 , cant agree more. Exactly my thoughts - Punter loves the game, plays it to win it for his team and nation and in doing so , reacts at times. Wish his enthusiasm, commitment and passion rubs on to the next crop of players and make us stronger !! God Bless Punter and Australia !!!

  • Hammond on October 25, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    @zenboomerang- sadly mate I think kids aren't playing any sport in Australia any more. There are too many things with screens that take up their time.

  • zenboomerang on October 25, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    @Hammond... Grass roots should be Primary School (PS) - when I was a kid our PS had a decent oval + 2 nets which were used 3 times a day - before school, recess, lunch + one interschool each Thursday arvo... We also had male teachers that encouraged cricket & football... Now its rare to find a male teacher in a PS, let alone any decent sports coaching from the female teachers - not sexism just the facts... Expecting kids just turning up on a Saturday to turn into decent cricketers just doesn't happen - we'd get 6+ hours at school & maybe 3 hours after school each week before we played on a Saturday... By the time we left PS every kid that was interested in cricket could bat, bowl & do some wkt keeping as we were encouraged to play in all positions...

  • popcorn on October 25, 2012, 7:06 GMT

    A HUGE Poster of Ricky Ponting holds pride of place in my Room alongside a poster of Roger Federer. Ricky Ponting is the Role Model for ALL young boys - from Club Cricket to Test Cricket, his devotion to the game,his fierce competitiveness,are benchmarks to follow. The icing is scoring 162 not out yesterday AT HIS AGE to put Tassie on Top. What a guy!

  • waheed1233 on October 25, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    By far the best article in cricinfo i have ever read! No doubt, this man, Punter, is one of the greatest batsmen the world has ever seen. The way he takes passion about the game is something that everyone can learn. The learning is not only about cricket but also a great lesson of life, irrespective of the profession one is in.

  • ishud on October 25, 2012, 5:21 GMT

    Wonderful article! Every genuine cricket fan should read this! I've struggled over the years to understand Punter,but this article really provided me some insight.

  • on October 25, 2012, 3:28 GMT

    great article and Ricky's thoughts are immaculate...just see the trend that is shared by all the great cricketers, humility and the way in which this articles catches that is amazing

  • Webba84 on October 25, 2012, 3:28 GMT

    It always seemed to me, and this article all but confirms it, that Punters behavior issues have always come from caring too much about cricket, rather than the reverse. Id rather have him be chilidish on occasion than lose even a little of the passion he clearly has for the game.

  • Imz25 on October 25, 2012, 2:41 GMT

    One of the best articles I've read on here!

  • Hammond on October 25, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    Sub-district cricket is where the grassroots are really at, and we are struggling. Kids aren't playing cricket anymore. There were only 2 Under 16 teams in the whole association this year and they had to abandon the whole thing. Maybe in the suburban centres it isnt as bad, but in my club there aren't any juniors coming through, and the average age of the crciketers just keeps growing..

  • on October 24, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    Tremendous article, well done Ricky and the guys. I wish we could have that transparency in the UK.

  • on October 24, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    Such a pleasure to read this. Hot on heels of the Waqar Younis interview comes another smashing read. The biggest thing to glean is how the 'greats' of the game have a deep gratitude and humility towards the game, towards what made them - apart from great understanding of their skills. Many of the Indian fans might not agree .. but Ponting has always shown this respect. He has held the grass-roots of the game in high regard and regardless of his behavior issues at times, he deserves to be celebrated as one of the more generous of the greats.

  • on October 24, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Is it realistic in the modern World to expect elite player development to be grounded on the foundations of the amateur club game. Unfortunately people don't have the time or the inclination to play and run amateur clubs in the way that they once used to. Whereas people used to have limited options in how they spent their free time men of working age now have lots of commitments and options outside of cricket. I certainly seems that the quality of young players coming through into Sheffield Shield is a lot lower than it used to be. With only 66 professional cricketers in the country there is little margin for error in player development as there isn't depth that the county system in England has. In England elite development is focused through the counties. With 18 counties in a small country elite development facilities are readily accessible for those that are good enough. I don't think that is true in Australia with only 6 teams in a very large country, especially outside the cities.

  • Ragav999 on October 24, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Brilliant article and helps explain a lot about the great cricketer and a man that is Ricky Ponting

  • PrasPunter on October 24, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    This man Punter just loves the game out of his heart. Takes pride in wearing the Baggy Green and has his heart on his sleeve. Love ya Punter. Wish another10 tons from you. Not to forget the much-awaited Ashes victories. Proud to be Aussie because of you !!

  • on October 24, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    great piece! profound substance,facile pen! hope the indian stalwarts follow suit and jump off the T20 Bandwagon a tad!

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  • on October 24, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    great piece! profound substance,facile pen! hope the indian stalwarts follow suit and jump off the T20 Bandwagon a tad!

  • PrasPunter on October 24, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    This man Punter just loves the game out of his heart. Takes pride in wearing the Baggy Green and has his heart on his sleeve. Love ya Punter. Wish another10 tons from you. Not to forget the much-awaited Ashes victories. Proud to be Aussie because of you !!

  • Ragav999 on October 24, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Brilliant article and helps explain a lot about the great cricketer and a man that is Ricky Ponting

  • on October 24, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Is it realistic in the modern World to expect elite player development to be grounded on the foundations of the amateur club game. Unfortunately people don't have the time or the inclination to play and run amateur clubs in the way that they once used to. Whereas people used to have limited options in how they spent their free time men of working age now have lots of commitments and options outside of cricket. I certainly seems that the quality of young players coming through into Sheffield Shield is a lot lower than it used to be. With only 66 professional cricketers in the country there is little margin for error in player development as there isn't depth that the county system in England has. In England elite development is focused through the counties. With 18 counties in a small country elite development facilities are readily accessible for those that are good enough. I don't think that is true in Australia with only 6 teams in a very large country, especially outside the cities.

  • on October 24, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    Such a pleasure to read this. Hot on heels of the Waqar Younis interview comes another smashing read. The biggest thing to glean is how the 'greats' of the game have a deep gratitude and humility towards the game, towards what made them - apart from great understanding of their skills. Many of the Indian fans might not agree .. but Ponting has always shown this respect. He has held the grass-roots of the game in high regard and regardless of his behavior issues at times, he deserves to be celebrated as one of the more generous of the greats.

  • on October 24, 2012, 18:39 GMT

    Tremendous article, well done Ricky and the guys. I wish we could have that transparency in the UK.

  • Hammond on October 25, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    Sub-district cricket is where the grassroots are really at, and we are struggling. Kids aren't playing cricket anymore. There were only 2 Under 16 teams in the whole association this year and they had to abandon the whole thing. Maybe in the suburban centres it isnt as bad, but in my club there aren't any juniors coming through, and the average age of the crciketers just keeps growing..

  • Imz25 on October 25, 2012, 2:41 GMT

    One of the best articles I've read on here!

  • Webba84 on October 25, 2012, 3:28 GMT

    It always seemed to me, and this article all but confirms it, that Punters behavior issues have always come from caring too much about cricket, rather than the reverse. Id rather have him be chilidish on occasion than lose even a little of the passion he clearly has for the game.

  • on October 25, 2012, 3:28 GMT

    great article and Ricky's thoughts are immaculate...just see the trend that is shared by all the great cricketers, humility and the way in which this articles catches that is amazing