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Shane Warne presents alternate reality

Daniel Brettig

January 30, 2013

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Shane Warne and Darren Lehmann at the funeral service for Jane McGrath, Sydey, June 22, 2008
Darren Lehmann was nominated as Shane Warne's assistant coach of choice © Getty Images
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Shane Warne has proposed an alternate reality for Australian cricket. It is one in which Mark Taylor is the generalissimo, Stephen Fleming the coach, and Ian Chappell the Godfatherly consultant for all players to lean on. Rotation does not exist following a players' mutiny, captains are never chosen in advance of the team they lead, and sleep is a preferable form of recovery to the use of technology.

Having drummed up a wave of hype for his suggestions about how to lift Australian cricket from the state of disarray in which he says it has fallen into, Warne delivered an excoriation of the post-Argus review network around the national team and suggested replacements for all of Cricket Australia's major team performance roles.

Warne had previously suggested on Twitter that the captain Michael Clarke needed better support than he was currently getting, and proposed that a new hierarchy be established that was comprised entirely of former international players. Taylor was nominated to replace the former rugby international, Pat Howard, as the team performance chief. The selection panel would be comprised of Rod Marsh as chairman, plus Mark Waugh, Damien Martyn and Glenn McGrath.

Stephen Fleming, the ex-New Zealand captain, was Warne's coach of choice instead of Mickey Arthur, with Darren Lehmann to be his assistant. Warne argued that the coach should not be a selector. The recently retired Michael Hussey and Michael Bevan were put forward as potential batting coaches, while Merv Hughes and Bruce Reid were posited as the men to mentor the bowlers. Chappell, meanwhile, would oversee it all as a consultant, on call as a source of advice and philosophy on the game.

"All the above people are cricket people, not rugby, tennis or from any other sporting code," Warne wrote on his website. "They all understand the game of cricket, they have lived and breathed the game for a long time and most importantly have the best interests of Australian cricket at heart, along with being super passionate and above all, they just love the game.

"Cricket is a simple game; sure it has room and a place for scientific research and current technology, which can help [you] learn about an opponent, but not instead of using your cricket brain - they can work hand in hand. Technology can help in recovery, but so can sleep and a common sense approach to recovery."

As for the thinking behind selection, Warne said the most important element in his view was the fostering of a united team via the playing and winning of matches together. Critical for some time of the concept of rotation, Warne argued that the changing of teams for reasons other than the simplest of injury and form concerns bred mistrust, and he encouraged the current team to revolt against the concept.

"A simple criteria is pick your best team and stick with it in all forms, then the players get used playing together and being with one another on tour, you get to know the person," Warne wrote. "Too much chopping and changing leads to insecurity, players then start to look out for themselves and over their shoulder, this breeds selfishness.

"It's also why rotation and resting players will never work. I believe the players should be united, take ownership of this, it's a very powerful and strong message to send to CA if the players' message is 'I do not want to be rested or rotated; I want to play every game, if I don't perform drop me'. If this decision comes from the players then CA have to respect that and follow suit on selection accordingly, this will then mean someone is accountable.

"We have the best batsmen/captain in world cricket at the moment in Michael Clarke and the spine of a good team with [David] Warner, [Shane] Watson, [Matthew] Wade, [Peter] Siddle and [Nathan] Lyon, the rest of the spots are up for grabs in my opinion. Opportunities for players now are there for the taking."

Warne said he planned to discuss his ideas with the CA chief executive James Sutherland, who had previously offered the former Test legspinner the chance for a meeting to air grievances that were aggravated by his own disciplinary problems during the Big Bash League and the Melbourne Stars' exit from the tournament.

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Posted by dwblurb on (February 2, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

Ozcricketwriter, it's a little hard to accept your self-proclaimed guru status when you don't know that Andrew Hilditch played many Test matches for Australia - indeed he was vice-captain for two separate periods.

Posted by bumsonseats on (February 1, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

its only 12 month or so ago that nearly all on here new a change was needed and bringing an ex RU guy was the impetus that the aussie game needed.

the aussie team has done ok no more than that. but as you say you can only so much. these guys cannot be blamed for the woes that have happened to the state game that must be looked can such a good pack of pace bowlers come out of the state game but batters and spin bowlers cannot.

as to ex player moving into positions that run the game if that happens and works i would be dumbfounded. great players dont make good administrators never have done never will.

Posted by   on (February 1, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

OzCricketwriter I think you'll find that Andrew Hilditch did indeed play for Australia.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (February 1, 2013, 8:14 GMT)

Anyone who saw today's match would agree with me when I say that Australian cricket is hardly in its darkest hour. It was in the lead up to the 2010 Ashes, when I wrote my article that Shane Warne so blatantly copied. The Argus Review has largely succeeded, though I agree that I think that the administrators should all be ex international cricketers - the problem with Andrew Hilditch was that he had never played for Australia and didn't know the intensity required - Jamie Cox succeeded only because he was so close to the international team and should have played test cricket - most who have no international experience aren't good candidates. I am still waiting for Shane Warne to admit to stealing the ideas off me, but his repeating ideas that were relevant 2 1/2 years ago but have largely been dealt with now really make him look foolish.

Posted by   on (January 31, 2013, 23:04 GMT)

@Big-Dog You're NSW Selection Bias is as funny as a fart in an elevator. Only New South Welshman on the Selection Panel is Michael Clarke and only because he's captain. The last New South Welshman on the panel was John Benaud (I don't count AB because he's been a dyed in the wool QLDer for years... Turncoat)

Why would 2 West Australians, a South African who coached WA before Australia and a Queenslander have a Bias for NSW players that you seem to think in is the panel now?

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (January 31, 2013, 14:38 GMT)

Took me a while but I checked over my old writings and I had written his manifesto myself on 31 October 2010, prior to the disastrous 2010 Ashes - just after they announced their horrific 17 man squad. Warney did change a bit though but the essence of the article is identical. Well, except that I said that Warne was a bit of an idiot. LOL. I have written to Warney about this to see if it was inspired by mine or if we just think alike. Methinks he read it. Good news for me if he did :). I don't mind too much him copying it, just think it'd be nice if he said so. Alternatively, maybe it is just so obvious that he didn't need to copy it from anyone because by now everyone already knows.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 31, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

Warney, Lyon needs some help to become a top spin bowler. You had Jenner as a mentor, how about becoming Lyon's mentor? How about coaching young spin bowlers all over the country? Why' don't you put your hand up to be CA's spin coach?

Posted by Jayzuz on (January 31, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

@Mark Formby, there are glass half full-people, and then there are glass half-empty people. You are a glass 99.9% empty person, aren't you? I mean could you possibly be any more negative if you tried? Why don't you try comparing the Australian bowlers to the SA bowlers for that series? Lyon vs Tahir, Siddle vs Philander. Steyn and Morkel were thrashed around at 5+ runs an over for the first two tests. Siddle also has a better test averages than Morkel and Anderson. Why don't you mention that? Finally, the Australian team has lost only one series - and very unluckily so - in the past two and a half years. Their record is only second to SA in that time - much better win-loss ratio than ENG, for example (who are ONE point ahead of them on the table). From that you get "near-certain humiliation just around the corner." India is just around the corner, you know, the team they beat 4-0 just a year ago and who are now even worse. Logic is not one of your great strengths, is it?

Posted by gogoldengreens on (January 31, 2013, 9:58 GMT)

If Warne is so concerned about Aussie cricket why doesn't he throw his hat in the ring and coach spin bowlers... Money not good enough!!

Posted by hyclass on (January 31, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

In a sense, Warne is correct. Those tasked with implementing Argus were themselves implicated by it. It's hardly been the impartial revision that was deemed necessary. Aspects of the rotation policy have lacked even the barest intelligence. Certainly it supports Warne's low view of the ability of technology to advance results. The selection of the team to India has something of the 'names out of hats' feel about it.While Doherty may have some moments, there is not a single piece of supporting evidence for either his or Maxwell's inclusions. The inclusion of Watson raises plenty of questions because it assumes that the reasons for Watson's failing batting is the bowling workload. It's entirely possible that he fails due to a fast loss of electrolytes caused by his physique. Its common amongst body builders. This squad may compete in patches but India would have to be very poor to fail at home against it.No O'Keefe? What performance manager?It seems that election is as whimsical as ever.

Posted by smudgeon on (January 31, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

After reading all the comments here, I have decided that Meety is the only sane man in the room. I second your implicit motion to anoint Richie. All hail to the Beige Age of Australian Cricket.....

Posted by Kookaburra_balls on (January 31, 2013, 7:12 GMT)

@ Kempy21 - Love it mate - The greatest captain we never had ""SNIGGER"" even more. Just the thought of Warne having anything to do with the future of Australian cricket is frightening. To date since his retirement, he has yet to make any significant 'serious' contribution to Australian Cricket, he seems to be focussed on bagging, criticising and finger pointing. I'm not sure you can expect any significant contribution in the future. Warne's primary issue is his maturity as displayed recently in the Big Bash. YES, legendary player with a stunning partner, he needs to stick to things he is really good at - Twitter and Texting come to mind!!! Could you imaging the language and chest poking if he and Chappell had a disagreement. Sadly, he is in an ex-player who could help in a big way, but appears to unable to resist himself and centre stage. Tell your story walking Warnie!!!!

Posted by Wefinishthis on (January 31, 2013, 6:37 GMT)

Warne's record of recognising talent is not exactly great. Beer anyone? He's as bad as the current selectors in failing to recognise O'Keefe and talking up Watson and Lyon. Ian Healy is the only former player/commentator I've heard who talks sense in rewarding performance. I'd dismiss anyone who actually thinks that 'haus is a better bowler than Bird, Pattinson or Harris.

Posted by Big-Dog on (January 31, 2013, 6:19 GMT)

Having Waugh & McGrath in the selection panel would mean no one outside of NSW would get a look in. Apart from that & having seen the squad for India its clear Invererity, Howard & Arthur have to go. They are undermining the credibility of cricket & the popularity of the game will ultimately suffer.

Posted by   on (January 31, 2013, 5:03 GMT)

If that is the spine of the Australian team according to Warne, what hope is there?

David Warner? Exposes the no 3 & 4 batsmen to a still-new ball far too often, no matter how many runs he scores. Shane Watson?? Not good enough to play unless he bowls as well as bats Matt Wade? Arguably the best keeper going around in Aus at the moment but by no means established at Test level. Peter Siddle? A tryer, but averaged 38 with a strike rate of 78 at home against the Proteas. Not quite the strike bowler to build an attack around. Nathan Lyon? 12 wickets, average 40, strike rate 89 against SA. Enough said.

As for rotation policy, it should have been in place years ago to prolong the careers of bowlers like Jason Gillespie.

The "Dream Team" to run CA is all very well, but would they really want to be in charge of such a shallow talent pool as Aus has at the moment? For less money and longer hours than they are earning now? With near-certain Aus humiliation just around the corner? Think not.

Posted by Alexk400 on (January 31, 2013, 4:47 GMT)

warne just stir the pot. He always say things just to make people think but it has no sense. He wants all his team mates in charge of CA. Not much in making great team

Posted by Kolpak1989 on (January 31, 2013, 1:59 GMT)

I like Warnie's suggestions. While we're at it, the Gatorade should be substituted for VB at the drinks intervals.

Posted by Jayzuz on (January 31, 2013, 1:44 GMT)

@ Rhygwyn "Ozzies are upset they are not dominating. Plain and simple." Wrong. I am upset that 33 players have been trundled through the revolving door of the AUS team in the last 10 games. How is this the same as what other teams are doing? Resting a player here and there is not the same as changing your entire fastbowling lineup in the middle of a series (would SA do that?) or almost the entire ODI team after the first game of a series. On both occasions the results were disastrous, going from dominant to being dominated in one game. Almost all new guys bought in failed, then were booted out again immediately. Are you seriously suggesting that there is no problem with this policy? That it is just a matter of time till everything gets better? You cannot bury your head in the sand when a problem is so obvious. Warne is right in one respect. Make developing a team & winning games the priority, not trialling players or guessing when they are going to get injured.

Posted by Meety on (January 31, 2013, 1:01 GMT)

@wellrounded87/bob martin - whilst I don't normally dismiss win/loss ratios, in respect of NZ players or for that matter - captaincy it becomes less relevant. Fleming is far better than a 34% ratio could ever suggest. I remember the nil all draw with Oz over 3 tests(was rain affected) in the early 2000's & the way he pantsed Graeme Smith in Sth Africa (credit to Smith - I think it changed him completely). Fleming did this with a team that was barely semi-amateur in status - & most of the tiime without his strike bowler (Bond).

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 31, 2013, 0:58 GMT)

Cant say Shane Warne has lost it because he never really had it. Australia barely rotate for the important games (test matches), its just we have a group of 7 bowlers all of eqial ability. SO if one is fatigued then the next bloke is better than him. Perhaps Shane Warne was a spin bowler with no idea how Paceman can keep going day in, day out without no extended pre-season. Sharpening players minds through spells happened regularly in his day, I remember Gilchrist would always skip a game or 2 to go home to Perth early before an international in Perth. Yes we experiment with one-day cricket and T20 cricket but we certainly dont do that during the World Cup. he must also remember Warner was an experiment, as was Brett Lee in his day. SOme players will fail some will succeed. Hughes got his shot at one-dayers through the resting of players and took his opportunity.

Posted by kempy21 on (January 30, 2013, 23:39 GMT)

Just a beat up as usual. Thanks Shane. The greatest captain we never had *snigger*. Why not just install your mates into jobs? The major issue, that seems to be forgotten by Warne, is that Australian cricket is suffering from a bit of an identity crisis. We keep looking for this magical "all-rounder" but seem to forget that guys like Gilchrist just simply do not grow on trees. They are once in a generation players. Simply put, Maxwell, Steve Smith, Henriques, are not international standard cricketers, yet apparently "x factor" is a quantifiable selection measure now. However, Khawaja who is easily in the top 6 batsmen in the country right now misses out at the expense of bits and pieces cricketers. What happened to picking the 4 best bowlers, 6 best bastmen and a keeper to win a game for you. Back the guys in their PRIMARY role to either make runs or take 20 wickets to win games. Stop with this jack of all trades master of none rubbish.

Posted by Mitcher on (January 30, 2013, 22:53 GMT)

"A simple criteria is pick your best team and stick with it in all forms". I'm assuming this is just poorly written hence a misunderstanding that Warne would suggest picking same side for all formats. Surely he means pick best side in EACH format then stick with those selections? I hope so... As for Ian Chappell: I think this would be a great move - at least for the 30% of players he doesn't have a deep seated vendetta against.... There's SOME logic in what Warne has to say. No more.

Posted by bundybear55 on (January 30, 2013, 22:00 GMT)

Isn't it interesting that someone who has sought scientific solutions for his own physical recoveries - hair loss, double-chins, etc - can't see the value of the sport scientists. Thought he'd be a huge supporter of the new trend..?!

Posted by OneEyedAussie on (January 30, 2013, 22:00 GMT)

Warne agrees in principle with rotation - his act of making himself unavailable for selection for large numbers of ODI games are indicative.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (January 30, 2013, 21:48 GMT)

Attempting to reform the management structure at CA misses one crucial point: Australia don't have any players good enough. It's no good trying to change the deckchairs on the Titanic.

Posted by bundybear55 on (January 30, 2013, 21:38 GMT)

This is a bit like all those "mystery balls" he would come up with before each series - full of bluff and bluster..! Seriously, this is a vision..? Ray Charles had more vision than this..! Onyl needs to put Andrew Symonds in charge of recovery and EH in charge of dress code and he'll have a Full House..! With all his mates together they could try a new reality big brother show instead of a boot camp..? Really sad when you see one of the truly great players making such a fool of himself in this manner. Australia's biggest issue is how to keep our exciting group of young fast bowlers and our chief allrounder on the park yet he doesn't address this..? Things weren't working, blind Freddie could see that - something had to change. Sir Alex was ridicluled when he introduced "rotation" to Man U 20 years ago and look at their record since then. Things were broke, they needed fixing - at least give the system a chance to kcik in properly before judging.

Posted by wellrounded87 on (January 30, 2013, 21:16 GMT)

@bobmartin, i agree. A captain's win ratio is irrelevant. I think Ponting wasn't all that flash as a captain he just had the best cricket side of all time to work with. Though i do like Clarke, he always tries to put his side in a position to win test matches. Since he took over captaincy i've never seen him try to put his team in a draw or win situtation like many other captains do regularly. Aggressive captaincy is good for the sport and it shows belief in your teammates.

Posted by TripleCenturian on (January 30, 2013, 21:15 GMT)

The problem with the Aussies is that they have to rotate every game as their fast bowlers cannot last two games in a row. And those that do are then rested as some biomechanic with a statistical model tells you that by the law of averages the one still standing will break down in the next test so you had better protect him and leave him out. Are there any Aussie state seamers not yet to play for the national team?

Warne speaks sense and reverts to simple good old fashioned principles from a bygone era as far back as the end of the last century. The problem now is that all teams have so many hangers on as support staff and they need to justify their existence so come up with Mumbo jumbo theory about player rest, rotation and squad depths making the team stronger..

Posted by bobmartin on (January 30, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

@ tokoloshe.... You don't judge a captain solely on his win ratio....No matter how good a captain you are, you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear. With all due respects to those you mentioned, especially Ponting, they didn't really have a awful lot to do as captain given the quality of players they had in their teams.

Posted by GeoffreysMother on (January 30, 2013, 19:16 GMT)

Shane Warne has lived in alternative reality for the last few years. The real issue is that no genuine quality batsmen have progressed through the state system in the last 10 years (let alone spin bowler). Compare the current crop to the 'B' team batsmen 10 years ago : Law, Hussey, Lehmann, Valetta, and Symonds (and I've probably forgotten one or two). The coaching issue is at the next level down.

Posted by tokoloshe on (January 30, 2013, 18:41 GMT)

JPterrors - Why would you say Stephen Fleming is the best captain ever to grace the great game? His win ratio is about 34%. Where would you rate Waugh, Ponting, Border or Smith? The best coach currently. He was a very good captain but the best.......What has he achieved as a coach? Your post is a joke.

Posted by Rhygwyn on (January 30, 2013, 17:06 GMT)

(1) No country plays the same team for Tests/ODIs/T20s for a very good reason. (2) Rotation makes sense if it will prevent injury. SA rests players all the time, just not in Test matches. England does too. Look at India and their fast bowlers after no rest. (3) He also posits that only a winning team can have a good team situation. Well, there can only be 1 winning team. And this comment really just illustrates how correct Ed Smith is in his column; Ozzies are upset they are not dominating. Plain and simple. They simply have fewer great players at the moment. Rotation and other conspiracy theories have nothing to do with it. Just be patient.

Posted by jplterrors on (January 30, 2013, 16:40 GMT)

If Fleming wanted to coach Aus he would be already he was the best captain Intl cricket produced and is currently easily the best coach in the world.

Posted by Paulk on (January 30, 2013, 16:38 GMT)

I have to admit that this is rather better than what I expected him to come up with. While I respect him as the great bowler that he is (as well as a smart thinker), objectivity has never been one of his strong points (or Ian Chappell's for that matter). I cannot find fault with any of the folks that he has named but there is still an element of getting his buddies in or people that he likes personally, as a few others have pointed out. Legends like Adam Gilchrist and Steve Waugh obviously have nothing to offer to Australian cricket in Warne's world.

Posted by Vakbar on (January 30, 2013, 15:43 GMT)

You've got to hand it to Warne...gets fined for a public fight and manages to turn it into an international debate about the structure of Australian cricket, to the extent that the now beleagured CA chief want to meet for peace talks!

Amazing, this should make a Harvard case study for politicians the world over. Got caught with your pants down? No problem - turn it into a national debate about the problems with society and morals!

On the circket points - he's characteristically spot on on all counts. After all, no offence meant, but who the 4X is James Sutherland anyway and why is he running Aussie cricket?!

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (January 30, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

I'm all in favour of cricket based people at the top levels so that decisions on scheduling etc are made with CRICKET in mind not the selling of fried chicken or mobile phones. The only surprise for me is that he hasnt found a role for Darren BERRY. Some mistake surely , Warnie?

Posted by 2nd_Slip on (January 30, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

there is nothing wrong with the leadership mr warne the problem is that the players that australians always rave about as being young talent are actually not even half as good as they think they are

Posted by bobmartin on (January 30, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

During the goodness knows how many years Australia were ruling world cricket there wasn't very much chopping and changing... sorry "rotation" If someone is in form, scoring runs, taking wickets,.. why on earth would you want to leave him out. If it aint broke... don't fix it...Your place in the team should be on the basis that you're fit to play and better than those challenging, not on whether the coach/selectors think you need a rest. I notice the ECB are going down the "rotation route" too... As far as I can see it's the route to nowhere.

Posted by cloudmess on (January 30, 2013, 14:23 GMT)

PFEL - in that case, where are the likes of Justin Langer (who was Australia's batting coach), and Stuart Law? Jamie Siddons? Steve Waugh has been involved in cricket administration in various ways (he was on the panel of the Argus review), and is undoubtedly a deep thinker about the game. My point is that Warne chooses his teams first and foremost on whether he likes them or not - ability to do the job well will always come a close second. It's why he has often ended up captaining weak sides. Even if Waugh were the national coach now, Warne would want to get rid of him. And Ian Chappell has worked as a commentator, not coach or administrator, for the last 30 years.

Posted by Jayzuz on (January 30, 2013, 14:12 GMT)

Warner is right about developing a core team. It's just so obvious. That's all SL did for the short format games. Nothing "scientific". Just common sense. At present we don't have a t20 or ODI team, just a bunch of players. And we saw what happened to an AUS team playing great cricket when they made huge changes in the Perth test. So far we have just awful results from rotation. Really, really awful. A definite F grade.

Posted by whofriggincares on (January 30, 2013, 13:16 GMT)

Totally agree with Meety, some great points mixed with the usual warne bias. Rotation is spinning out of control ,way overdone IMO. The talent is there lets just get the team right in all 3 formats differing obviously to suit each one. We need some stability and security for players . The single most important word in cricket is TEAM ,11 guys working together to produce results. The best combination of 11 is not necessarily the best 11 cricketers in the land. Sounds stupid i know but if you have been involved in selection at any level you know what I mean.

Posted by JayPmorgan on (January 30, 2013, 12:16 GMT)

@Meety states "Some good stuff mixed with a bit of codswallop! The biggest flaw is in his organisational chart, is that it is populated primarily by his mates" This sums up why there is such a chasm between the credibility of Warnes thoughts on the game and his status as a legendary cricketer. He allows his personal opinion to influence his professional one. One case in point in ranking Adam Ghilchrist at 16 compared to Ian Healy at 10 in his top 100.

Posted by PFEL on (January 30, 2013, 12:04 GMT)

cloudmess, you couldn't be more off the mark. Steve Waugh has never had any real interest in running Aus cricket, while the men mentioned in the article have for the most part been heavily involved in coaching/managing cricket (with the exception of Damien Martyn, and Hussey who has just retired)

Posted by dwblurb on (January 30, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

Presumably, under his system, Warnie's test career would have been cut short by a few years becaue of his unavailability for all forms of the game, having retired from ODIs in 2003?

Posted by edygriff21 on (January 30, 2013, 11:48 GMT)

Agree with most of what he's saying, but why doesnt he want to step up and mentor our bowlers, even if it's just partime to help out Lyon. Only thing i don't agree with is Fleming. Have an Aussie coaching our team.

Posted by cloudmess on (January 30, 2013, 11:39 GMT)

This is just Shane Warne finding jobs for his mates, as usual. He's rather like Ian Botham in this respect. He's never forgiven Steve Waugh for taking the captaincy that he thought was his by right, so of course no place for Waugh. Despite the latter having the highest wins ratio of any long-term captain in history, never mind test average 50+ across more than 150 games against better bowling attacks than today. Of course, predictably no place either for Adam Gilchrist, Ricky Ponting or Justin Langer etc (whom Warne also didn't get along with so well). Warne was a fantastic player - the best spin bowler in history - a great showman, an entertaining and articulate personality, but even now he still lacks a certain emotional maturity and detachment. Please don't ever put him in charge of anything.

Posted by TrueLankan on (January 30, 2013, 11:31 GMT)

@Meety : Completely agree with Benaud being the Emperor of Cricket. But would he want to be in that position? I doubt it or else he would of been Emperor a long time ago.

Posted by Clan_McLachlan on (January 30, 2013, 11:12 GMT)

Rich of Warne to suggest all his ex team-mates get in there and sort things out... while he's too busy with other stuff to be involved himself!

Posted by FredBoycott on (January 30, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

Put Shane in charge, give him full control, what better way for England to retain the Ashes for the next 10 years. #digin

Posted by Potatis on (January 30, 2013, 10:58 GMT)

@jmcilhinney your argument is correct on it's own, but it leaves alone Warne's other point which is that the same team should be picked so that the players get used to playing with each other. I believe this is important. Players learn a lot about each other's games and there are better team performances, rather than individual performances. The old saying that a champion team will beat a team of champions is true. The current Aus teams don't gel as well as they should. I feel this in the ODI and T20 teams most. So many new faces, such amazing talent, but haven't got the team feel yet. They are more like the team of champions. It will always be like this if the chopping and changes keep happening.

Posted by Meety on (January 30, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

Some good stuff mixed with a bit of codswallop! The biggest flaw is in his organisational chart, is that it is populated primarily by his mates. Although, I would like to see Lehman as coach of Oz (sooner rather than later)!

IMO - the best "alternate reality" is one where CA was ruled by Emperor Benaud, all decision-making (from Marketing Plans to the NSP selections & FTP scheduling etc) has to be ratified by the Great One. If Emperor Benaud doesn't like it - it can't be good for cricket. The team blazers would of course be changed to Beige or some form off-white! In fact, Benaud could also double as Supreme Ruler of the ICC as well!

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 30, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

@Thefakebook on (January 30 2013, 09:58 AM GMT), no, it's because of poor results. Australia's not the only country resting players. I have to say though, they seem to be the only one where players are rested for a game or two at a time rather than for full series. Maybe the Australian management aren't confident enough to leave out top players for whole series or maybe they just prefer the short-term resting but I'm not convinced that a game or two at a time gives a player a proper mental or physical rest anyway. I can see resting a player at the end of a series if it's already won but leaving players out at the beginning of a series with the intention of bringing them in a game or two later doesn't really seem sound to me.

Posted by Dr.Vindaloo on (January 30, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

This is nonsense or fantasy, whichever you prefer. Rotation is essential in today's game. If you want to play every single game, be it test, ODI or T20, then expect a five year (max) playing career -think how many more tests Brett Lee could have played if his workload had been properly managed. On the issue of non-cricketers in administration, you do need an outside perspective to challenge accepted views. Cricketers live in such a small bubble that they can easily lose all perspective. Warne's problem is that cricket came so easily to him and he finds it impossible to put himself in the shoes of a hard-working pro who needs all the help he can get to maximise his talent.

Posted by Rahul_78 on (January 30, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

The man has controversial past and present but when he speaks purely about cricket it makes lots of sense. In the first edition of IPL he lead a bunch of nobodies to the title against rich and mighty franchises. His cricketing acumen is one of the best.

Posted by hycIass on (January 30, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

Mark Waugh, Lehman and Fleming, i love it, these guys would do a great job.

Posted by Blakey on (January 30, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

Warney is the best leg-spinner ever, has a very good tactical understanding of the game but his 'politicising' of the situation is oversymplified. Firstly his first comments involved getting Australians in charge Flemming? Secondly, Ian Chappell has been mentioned ad nauseum but has never put his name forward for many trivial reasons, and Thirdly, why is Shane the know-all? Where have been the comments from previous captains, some of whom Shane has endorsed to take on roles. These captains were consulted in the Argus Review, apparently condoning the current set-up. Lastly, do we really have a problem or are we steadily rebuilding a formidable team for 2 or 3 years time. In my mind we don't have the depth of players we had 10 or more years back. This isn't the fault of rotation or Mickey Arthur. This goes back to district and shield issues. Match conditions have to challenge the players to develop themselves.

Posted by Thefakebook on (January 30, 2013, 9:58 GMT)

Warnie is right Australia is becoming the laughing stock of the crickting world not because of poor results but due to uncertainty of who's in and out. FIRSTLY you have to select a fixed team and then drop non proformers and rest injured players after a long tour.I hope one day Warnie takes over CA!

Posted by Gizza on (January 30, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

@Ozcricketwriter, Warne suggested Ian Chappell not Greg Chappell. They're brothers and both former cricketers but have very different personalities and approaches to the game.

Posted by subbu95 on (January 30, 2013, 9:49 GMT)

I dont talk of excessive crickt, but I like da idea of cricketing brains rather than from sum othr sport or political guys.warne has a xcellent point to make in that aspect, I want dis to happen to indian cricket even. But no has the guts come out as warne did.

Posted by Nuxxy on (January 30, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

He is not against rest. He is against rotation as a policy, when players are rested when they aren't tired "just in case". That's not working. They are still getting injured. It should be up to the player to request a rest, and they should be able to do so safe in the knowledge that they will have a place when they get back. There is too much us (players) vs them (administrators), not enough us (team) vs them (opposition).

Posted by Dashgar on (January 30, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

It screams of common sense, but this should have been mentioned in a meeting behind closed doors not posted on the Internet. Obviously players are not going to be specialists in all formats, some will only play tests while others will only play ODIs or T20s. That's not the issue here. Warne's idea of getting Australia's best cricketing brains into the organising of Aus cricket is brilliant in it obviousness. Not 100% practical though as people don't always want these jobs, and you need someone who is committed. @Ozcricketwriter, Warne didn't suggest Greg Chappell at all, he suggested Ian Chappell. However Greg is a great cricket mind even if the Indians don't like him anymore.

Posted by UAETigers on (January 30, 2013, 9:34 GMT)

Warne eats, sleeps and drink cricket!! He is evey inch a cricketer. though his reactions are harsh and words little tough but his intention and passion cannot be doubted for a penny. A true legend and strong individual.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 30, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

Warne's evaluation of the effect of rotation on players is flawed. When selectors chop and change the makeup of a team based on short-term form then that would legitimately have the effect that Warne suggests. If players are concerned that one or two bad performances could see them dropped then that could lead to selfishness. How exactly can schedule-based rotation have that effect though? If a player thinks that he might get left out of the team for the next game based on rotation, how exactly would a selfish performance help avoid that? Players simply need to adjust their mindset to the squad rather than the team. Players are still going to be picked on ability and form but the squad of players that gets picked will be larger over time and each of the first choice players will play a smaller proportion of the games. That's the whole point: the total number of games now is so large that no player can play them all without risking their health and long-term future.

Posted by drnaveed on (January 30, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

shane warne is a very controversial figure, forget about his past ,recently first ,while in india ,commentating during a test match ,he spoke against one of the standing umpire aleem dar.than had a clash with samuels during big bash match, than the fine, and so in a quick period of time ,he is constantly making his name appear in the news.could be Australia's next PM ?????

Posted by SherjilIslam on (January 30, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

I cannot agree more with Shane Warne. I have seen him transforming an ordinary looking Rajasthan Royal side into a highly competitive team.

Posted by FazleAbed on (January 30, 2013, 9:24 GMT)

Or Else You become the coach of the team. You can play all the role Mr. Warne, You are the Best like Ali

Posted by t20-2007 on (January 30, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

Incredible !!......Please BCCI...bring this Shane warne as coach of team India...any way our coach job is also up for grabs..we r all set to defend the WC then.

Posted by wongwright on (January 30, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

I agree with all that Shane has proposed. Our best teams have been the ones where players were given a good chance to develop themselves and the team spirit. Yes, you could argue that the current players aren't "as good" as those of the Border/Taylor/Ponting/Waugh eras, but I watched the rebuilding of the team under Border/Simpson and it took TIME!! It took perseverance and patience and being beaten again and again. To expect new cricketers to suddenly become "giants of the cricketing world" is completely unreasonable. Yes, I am a one-eyed Aussie fan, but losing teaches you something, and not just in cricket. How do cricketers get to mature at international level if they are thinking that they can get dropped after 2 or 3 bad performances. Ask Shane about his first test matches! He was hit all over the park! So, yes, good on you Shane and keep being the pot stirrer here. You have the profile to get the press, as you have on espn ... hopefully more support will surface.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (January 30, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

The first problem is Greg Chappell. If Shane Warne has any idea what he is doing, he would keep Greg Chappell as far away from any decision making as possible. Some neat ideas though. But I also think it is valid to have a different team for each of the 3 formats - Siddle should never be considered for anything other than tests, for example.

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

Shane Warne- point taken! But what about excessive cricket?? Rotation policy is not all that bad...

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