Australia news March 28, 2013

Gurinder Sandhu surprise winner of Steve Waugh Medal

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Gurinder Sandhu's rapid emergence as a pace bowler of substance has been underlined by his surprise plucking of the Steve Waugh Medal as the best New South Wales cricketer for 2012-13. Despite playing only two Sheffield Shield matches and four domestic limited-overs fixtures, 19-year-old Sandhu's 146 votes allowed him to edge Brad Haddin (143) and Trent Copeland (133) in the awards presentation at Doltone House in Sydney.

A fringe member of the squad at the start of the summer after playing for Australia at the 2012 Under-19 World Cup, Sandhu's bouncing fast medium was first glimpsed when he played for the Sydney Thunder during the Big Bash League. He subsequently earned one-day and Shield call-ups in the latter part of the summer, and swiftly made a striking impact.

In those two Shield games Sandhu collected 14 wickets, helping NSW to two outright wins that left them only narrowly short of qualifying for the competition final. In his limited-overs appearances he fared well too, also claiming 14 wickets to win the domestic one-day award. The Shield award was claimed by Copeland.

Sandhu's summer was also marked by representative duty for the Prime Minister's XI and the Australia A side that faced the England Lions, affording him a glimpse of higher honours that are sure to follow in time if he can maintain the cracking pace he set this season.

While Sandhu's success was a welcome reminder of the strong pace bowling stock presently available in NSW and Australia, it also reflected a season in which the Blues were barely sustained by a series of cameo performances across their squad.

Haddin enjoyed a fruitful season that culminated in his Test recall in India, making 468 runs at 52 with two centuries across seven matches in the Shield while claiming 19 catches and a trio of stumpings. Copeland also contributed consistently, nipping out 30 wickets at 26.86 and compiling his first Shield century against Tasmania.

Victoria and South Australia have also named their players of the season in end-of-year ceremonies. Chris Rogers took home his second Bill Lawry Medal as the Bushrangers' most accomplished cricketer in 2012-13, his 742 runs at 49.46 and three centuries vindicating the state's decision to re-sign the 35-year-old in the winter.

Chadd Sayers was named South Australia's cricketer of the year, winning both the Neil Dansie Medal as most valuable player and the Lord Hampden Trophy as best first-class performer for his prolific bowling feats in the Shield. Sayers, 25, reaped 48 wickets in nine matches and played a large part in making the Redbacks competitive again after some dismal recent summers at first-class level.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • zenboomerang on April 2, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    Nothing against Gurinder, but getting the State award for playing just 2 FC matches does seem a bit rich given that Haddin has had such a good season with the bat & O'Keefe with his bowling...

    Still, good on him - he looks a very promising bowler & will again have NSW scratching their heads on who to leave out if all bowlers are fit... Just shows how crammed are the eastern States with extra players that could be fixed by adding a few more teams to the comp...

  • AKS286 on March 31, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    @Edwards_Anderson on (March 31, 2013, 10:31 GMT) Fella two thing is missing is the S.Lankan spinner & African keeper. mendis, bandara, lokurachi, senayke for Aus thats gonna rock fella. ok my team- warner, cowan, khawaja, clarke (VC), tsolikile, j.botha (C), Dwayne smith, Sandhu, Siddle, pattinson, mendis.

  • Edwards_Anderson on March 31, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    @AKS286 love your sense of humour, i love the fact that we are producing south Asian players who are making their mark, Khawaja is already one of the best young batsman in the country and Sandhu can also develop into one. Funny thing is that Pakistan has traditionally been stron in bowling and India in batting though we now have a strong batsman from a Pakisan background(though his mum is Indian) and and a bowler from India, i think its great for cricket here.

  • Ozcricketwriter on March 31, 2013, 6:25 GMT

    Gurinder Sandhu had a good first 6 one day domestic matches and a first 2 first class matches but the problem is that there are already many very good fast bowlers about, and Sandhu will have to do a lot more than that to get into the side. Jackson Bird only recently broke into the side and Alistair McDermott, who has been amazing for 3 years now, is still yet to get into the side. Chris Rogers not only is too old at 35 but is also injury prone. If Sandhu can keep up those figures for another year, or even half a year, then I expect Sandhu in the Australian side, but right now he needs to do a bit more for a bit longer. I also wonder if Sandhu is really fast enough to be penetrating on the big stage.

  • AKS286 on March 31, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    Yes the expatriates, Ind needs sandhu & Pak needs usman khawaja he can fulfill the position of misbah ul heq. Sandhu for ishnt sharma.

  • RednWhiteArmy on March 31, 2013, 0:37 GMT

    I love all the aussie cricinfo selectors saying aus should have this person in & this person out. I didnt hear too much of it when you were playing SL, but now it seems the panic button has been hit & theres about 40 people in the cricinfo squad.

  • Johnny_129 on March 31, 2013, 0:08 GMT

    Aus should do a swap with India - trade Sandhu for an Indian batsman! Sandhu is of Indian descend - while Aus has lots of pace bowlers but lack batsman, India faces the opposite problem.

  • VivGilchrist on March 30, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    Think about it like this.... With selection for fast bowlers there are your automatic selections (if fit) on any tour - Harris, Siddle, Pattinson. Then you have the best guys according to conditions. For a UK tour you select guys who's bowling style suits these conditions - Sayers, Bird, Hilfenhaus, Starc, Faulkner, Butterworth. This list gets cut down to 6 (or maybe 7 if they choose one as a genuine 50/50 all rounder) who ultimately complement each other in forming the best balanced squad. Chuck in the two best spinners - Lyon and OKeefe. The two best keepers- (of constant debate). Then we choose the best batsmen vs the moving ball, especially important for the top 3, and the reason why Clarke should stay at 5.

  • hycIass on March 30, 2013, 23:21 GMT

    @Mary i have to go with your side as well, but i wouldn't leave Bird out, he will do well in India with his length and line.

  • Paul_Rampley on March 30, 2013, 12:38 GMT

    @Mary on top of your team i would also pick Johnson, he showed good form in Oz - and after sitting around in India,came in for the 4th test rusty and on a wicket offering nothing to pace bowlers. @Wefinishthis Khawaja is not too far from playing, Border, Waugh, Chappell all agree on that and lets hope he has a big one the ashes as he deserves, definitly one of my favorite emergin batsman. We've got 10 Tests coming up against an England team that will be chastened by its tour of NZ but which still looks too strong for us. And the ECB central contracts effectively rule England's top players out of the IGL. Pietersen is going to India, as are fringe players such as Morgan and Shah, but the guns will have time to refresh and reload.

  • zenboomerang on April 2, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    Nothing against Gurinder, but getting the State award for playing just 2 FC matches does seem a bit rich given that Haddin has had such a good season with the bat & O'Keefe with his bowling...

    Still, good on him - he looks a very promising bowler & will again have NSW scratching their heads on who to leave out if all bowlers are fit... Just shows how crammed are the eastern States with extra players that could be fixed by adding a few more teams to the comp...

  • AKS286 on March 31, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    @Edwards_Anderson on (March 31, 2013, 10:31 GMT) Fella two thing is missing is the S.Lankan spinner & African keeper. mendis, bandara, lokurachi, senayke for Aus thats gonna rock fella. ok my team- warner, cowan, khawaja, clarke (VC), tsolikile, j.botha (C), Dwayne smith, Sandhu, Siddle, pattinson, mendis.

  • Edwards_Anderson on March 31, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    @AKS286 love your sense of humour, i love the fact that we are producing south Asian players who are making their mark, Khawaja is already one of the best young batsman in the country and Sandhu can also develop into one. Funny thing is that Pakistan has traditionally been stron in bowling and India in batting though we now have a strong batsman from a Pakisan background(though his mum is Indian) and and a bowler from India, i think its great for cricket here.

  • Ozcricketwriter on March 31, 2013, 6:25 GMT

    Gurinder Sandhu had a good first 6 one day domestic matches and a first 2 first class matches but the problem is that there are already many very good fast bowlers about, and Sandhu will have to do a lot more than that to get into the side. Jackson Bird only recently broke into the side and Alistair McDermott, who has been amazing for 3 years now, is still yet to get into the side. Chris Rogers not only is too old at 35 but is also injury prone. If Sandhu can keep up those figures for another year, or even half a year, then I expect Sandhu in the Australian side, but right now he needs to do a bit more for a bit longer. I also wonder if Sandhu is really fast enough to be penetrating on the big stage.

  • AKS286 on March 31, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    Yes the expatriates, Ind needs sandhu & Pak needs usman khawaja he can fulfill the position of misbah ul heq. Sandhu for ishnt sharma.

  • RednWhiteArmy on March 31, 2013, 0:37 GMT

    I love all the aussie cricinfo selectors saying aus should have this person in & this person out. I didnt hear too much of it when you were playing SL, but now it seems the panic button has been hit & theres about 40 people in the cricinfo squad.

  • Johnny_129 on March 31, 2013, 0:08 GMT

    Aus should do a swap with India - trade Sandhu for an Indian batsman! Sandhu is of Indian descend - while Aus has lots of pace bowlers but lack batsman, India faces the opposite problem.

  • VivGilchrist on March 30, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    Think about it like this.... With selection for fast bowlers there are your automatic selections (if fit) on any tour - Harris, Siddle, Pattinson. Then you have the best guys according to conditions. For a UK tour you select guys who's bowling style suits these conditions - Sayers, Bird, Hilfenhaus, Starc, Faulkner, Butterworth. This list gets cut down to 6 (or maybe 7 if they choose one as a genuine 50/50 all rounder) who ultimately complement each other in forming the best balanced squad. Chuck in the two best spinners - Lyon and OKeefe. The two best keepers- (of constant debate). Then we choose the best batsmen vs the moving ball, especially important for the top 3, and the reason why Clarke should stay at 5.

  • hycIass on March 30, 2013, 23:21 GMT

    @Mary i have to go with your side as well, but i wouldn't leave Bird out, he will do well in India with his length and line.

  • Paul_Rampley on March 30, 2013, 12:38 GMT

    @Mary on top of your team i would also pick Johnson, he showed good form in Oz - and after sitting around in India,came in for the 4th test rusty and on a wicket offering nothing to pace bowlers. @Wefinishthis Khawaja is not too far from playing, Border, Waugh, Chappell all agree on that and lets hope he has a big one the ashes as he deserves, definitly one of my favorite emergin batsman. We've got 10 Tests coming up against an England team that will be chastened by its tour of NZ but which still looks too strong for us. And the ECB central contracts effectively rule England's top players out of the IGL. Pietersen is going to India, as are fringe players such as Morgan and Shah, but the guns will have time to refresh and reload.

  • Sunil_Batra on March 30, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    @Mitty2 I like your thinking, having Khawaja at 4 would help strengthen our batting lineup as he is a gritty batsman who scores in tough conditions, you only need to look at his performances against Tasmania in shield where he outscored Tasmania or against NSW at the AB oval to see evidence of that. And you could afford to carry that deficiency at the top of the order when Hussey was at no.6 to rescue the innings. Now with Hughes at no.3 and no Mike Hussey we simply can't afford it. The problem is that Warner can play that innings - we've seen it at Hobart against New Zealand, but too often he gets a rush of blood or a brain fade and gets out stupidly, that is a luxury we can't afford. The nice thing about Cowan is that he tries his hardest - even if all he gets is 30-60 you know he's done what he can, I've not seen Warner do all he can in a long time.

  • Mary_786 on March 30, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    @BigMaxyWalker like your ashes squad, i would have something similar XI Watson, hughes, khawaja, Clarke, smith, d hussey,paine, pattinson, harris, Beet, bird. Reserves: Burns, wade, starc, cutting, Holland

  • on March 30, 2013, 2:27 GMT

    @Wefinishthis - Kurtis Patterson didn't play one first class match for NSW this year and had an ordinary season for St George in grade cricket. David hussey had a terrible eason also. Silk has played three games in his entire career. Khawaja doesn't get the discpline required to play top level cricket and has rubbed the NSW clique up the wrong way. Cosgrove and Rogers might be worth a shot though!

  • on March 29, 2013, 21:25 GMT

    'Oh great, another top young quick moving up through the ranks. What on Earth will we do with him? ', wonders someone.

    That's simple. We'll give him a couple of matches when other fast bowlers break down, then he would also break down, then we'll forget about him.

  • Beertjie on March 29, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    Wow @Big_Maxy_Walker on (March 29, 2013, 6:54 GMT) what a left-field squad, mate! And yet the obvious assumptions behind your selection are not half bad! The big talking point would be Cowan, Warner and Watson out; Cosgrove, Doolan, Hussey in. What's to like about it is that the former are mostly openers, whereas the latter are. Imo another plus is the risk factor that selecting the former brings which is further compounded by having other inexperienced players like Hughes, Khawaja, Smith around. One needs to be wary though. Hussey had a terrible season in Shield until coming good in the last match. It's a matter of opinion if he should go. Smith's technique against the moving ball is worse than Cowan's. And Cosgrove immediately into the test side would be poor, imo. That perennial underachiever Watson may still have enough in him to make that party, but definitely not as as VC. But who would be Clarke's deputy in your squad? I confess I myself haven't a clue.

  • Shaggy076 on March 29, 2013, 10:18 GMT

    Sandhu is a good prospect, but there are two many inform bowlers around for him to displace anyone after two shield games. @Kiki - You might want to check the last Ashes series in England, Hilfenhaus was the best bowler in that series. He has had time to recover from an injury and do a pre-season. If he can force his way into the Aussie side could be very dangerous again.

  • on March 29, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    I don't think Sandhu , will or deserves to be in Australian team to Ashes. long way to go mate !

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on March 29, 2013, 6:54 GMT

    my ashes squad would be: XI Rogers, hughes, cosgrove(fitness shouldn't be too much of a problem, its cricket for gods sake), khawaja, Clarke, smith, paine, pattinson, harris, ahmed, bird. Reserves: doolan, wade, starc, cutting, okeefe, d hussey

  • on March 29, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    Sandhu will make it into the riches of Indian Test Side any day. Indian resident visa is pretty easy to get as well. Ethical enough?

  • whofriggincares on March 29, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    @kiki gill, you might have forgotten names such as Pattinson, Starc, Harris ,Bird and Cummins. Anyone who knows cricket knows that the Aussie pace stocks are right up with the best in the world. Do you actually follow cricket or just enjoy taking potshots from the keyboard. Even the most negative posters on here agree that our pace attack is formidable.

  • on March 29, 2013, 1:42 GMT

    Oh great, another top young quick moving up through the ranks. What on Earth will we do with him?

    @ Kiki

    Your point was valid about three years ago when the bowling was awful but the batting was still pretty good. However, the Barmy Army just can't seem to understand that the days of relying on Bollinger, Hilfenhaus, Johnson (in perpetual horrible form) and a mediocre spinner are over. Aus currently has the second best pace attack in the world (after SA of course) and will be a contender for the number one spot in a couple of years as the bowlers mature and gain experience. Again, the English look at the heavy loss in India (in which most teams struggle most of the time), think that we still rely on the same ineffectual bowlers as of a few years ago, and jubilantly predict 5-0 without breaking a sweat.

  • Wefinishthis on March 29, 2013, 1:33 GMT

    On the batting front we have at least 7 players currently averaging above 50 in FC or Tests. 2 of those recently retired, but we still have available Rogers, D.Hussey, Patterson, Silk and Clarke, yet Clarke is the only one with any recognition. So Patterson and Silk are still young and we expect to see those averages drop, but it's no excuse to not put them in an Aus A side and it's no excuse to omit Rogers and D.Hussey from the test side. Add to that Cosgrove and Burns, plus Khawaja who's probably forgotten the rules of the game by now and the talent is there. On the bowling, it's just obvious that O'Keefe/Pattinson/Harris/Bird/Faulkner is our best lineup (all average low-mid 20's), but they persist with Starc/Siddle/MJ who all struggle to average under 30. Chris_P - I agree, but don't underestimate the incompetence of these selectors. They still think ODI form is better than Shield. Sayers and Sandu have shown amazing potential as well, they need to be in an Aus A side.

  • on March 28, 2013, 23:39 GMT

    Aus should go to England with BOTH Husseys and Rogers. Warner Watson DH Clarke MH and Rogers could be the top six, with Watto seaming the ball a few overs each innings. Then England only win on turners because Swann & Panesar are way better than Lyon & Doherty (although O'Keefe should replace Doherty). Aus fast bowling stocks have never been better: Patto, Starc, MJ, Siddle, Harris, Cummins, Bird...who can leave behind? If Gurinder Sandhu wants to play test cricket within the next 3 years, he should apply for an Indian resident visa and fast track citizenship; they may even fly him to SAf by July 2013.

  • featurewriter on March 28, 2013, 23:18 GMT

    Kiki Gill: Not sure if you even really follow Australian cricket. Hilfenhaus won't play another Test for Australia. The Ashes squad of 17 will look like this: Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Faulkner, Butterworth, Smith, Khawaja, Wade, Siddle, Bird, Patterson, Starc, Lyon, Maxwell, Johnson.

  • on March 28, 2013, 22:59 GMT

    Sandhu could be a really good addition to the ashes squad.

  • Chris_P on March 28, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    @Kiki Gill Hilfy & MJ probably aren't in the top 12 bowlers in Australia so don't get too excited about the prospects of them playing. You have forgotten Pattinson, Starc, Bird, Harris, Copeland, Faulkner, Cummins, Hazelwood, Sayers, McDermott & Coulter-Nile who are ahead of these guys. Good try though.

  • poms_have_short_memories on March 28, 2013, 20:39 GMT

    @Kiki Gill, Only Siddle of the pace bowlers you mentioned will probably be in the test team. With Starc bowling in swingers to right handers at 140+kph and Pattinson bowling outswingers at 140+kph not to mention Ryan Harris fully fit with hopefully Pat Cummins fit I think this is a pace attack that can get 20 wickets a test, you obviously haven't been paying much attention lately, but don't fear after India i've no doubt we will see at least 3 turning tracks in the ashes mid year, horses for courses eh??

  • Thefakebook on March 28, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    Sandhu is an awesome bowler and may be playing in the T20WC squad next year who knows????? Leo Sayers is must for Ashes.CL Rogers played one test 5 years ago he did not performed and was vanished for ever just like JJ Krezja,Ronald McDonald,etc yet Maxwell and Xavier got picked again for doing absolutely nothing. I'd love to see this squad for the away Ashes: 1.Warner 2.Watson 3.Ed Cowan 4.Usmam 5.CLARKE 6.Burns 7.Paine 8.SNJ O'Keefe 9.Siddle 10.Patto 11.Leo Sayers 12.Doolan 13.Lyon 14.Starc(if fit)/Hilfy 15.Johnson 16.Ahmed(if he gets OZ citizenship)/Hauritz 17.Harris 18.Bird (Hughes and Smith may be on standby).

  • PrasPunter on March 28, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    @ Beertjie , absolutely - if we are to get back to those winning ways, can't afford all those fall-outs. Very unfortunate if that was the case. Wondering how the selectors couldnt have their word those days when the captain officially wasn't a selector.

    @Mitty2, Hey even i was sort of getting comfortable with how things were , when all of a sudden, Huss retired and now we struggle to get the right combo. Pretty much doubt that, with the batting group that went to india , we can get a draw, leaving alone winning one. We need mature heads, and we need them now. If Rogers, D Huss are to provide that, then for God's sake, they must be on plane to Eng. Fingers crossed!!

  • Beertjie on March 28, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    @ Pras_Punter The word is that just as Matt Eliott fell out with Tugga, so Rogers fell out with Punter. Surely the game and our hunger for realisable success should trump any residual fall out? @Kiki Gill on (March 28, 2013, 14:51 GMT) Not that your post merits any response, but most of us don't expect Hilfenhaus and Johnson even to make the tour party. I for one would rotate Harris and Siddle, hoping the former can manage 3 tests. But it is Pattinson, Bird and Starc (if you haven't heard) who most fans expect to be the big wicket takers, whatever your conditions. OK the batting is a problem, so let's suppose for the sake of argument that Hughes and Warner are flops. That still leaves as a top 6 to battle the decisive latter games: Rogers, Cowan, Khawaja, Clarke, Watson and Wade. For me Smith shouldn't go to England, but fans like me can see the holes allright. We're hoping to find ways to fix them by having the right kind of squad members - a better mix than they took to India!

  • on March 28, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    What's going on with all the Aussie fans,do you guys really think the Aussie have a strong fast bowling stock unbelievable ,if the Aussies think Siddle,Johnson,hilfeaaus will win back the ashes you guys are livin in cloud cuckoo land,As for the batters Smith,Hughes,Warner not good enough,England's placement will blow them away,if the weather holds up here in England,England will win 5-0.

  • AKS286 on March 28, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    My Ashes Squad- Klinger, Watson, Marsh, Clarke, Forrest/Voges/Ferguson, Haddin, Smith/moises, MJ, Siddle, Pattinson, Beer/Boyce. Two matches and a reward ahead than Copeland. Now I understand from where Khawaja is coming ahead from Marsh, Ferguson, Cosgrove, rogers, forrest, Voges, Klinger, Burns, Quiney, Birt, Silk, Hussey.

  • Mitty2 on March 28, 2013, 13:40 GMT

    @nzcricket174, perfect example. When you're that age and you've usually been given the hard end of the stick by the selector's.. What greater inventive is there to achieve in each and every test? With hussy, Clarke and ponting in the line up, all of Warner, Cowan and Hughes could work around the rocks and build off their experience/batting prowess, it was the reason we SHOULD have won/at least drawn against SA, and it was the reason I was expecting an ashes upset. Our young batsmen aren't the most talented bunch, but they look all the more better with hussey as well as Clarke. This is why the selectors still persist with Haddin, he has experience, despite not being overally good at what he does.

    Our best batting line up is IMO: Rogers Hughes Cowan khawaja clarke Warner wade/Paine.

    I believe Cowan at three and khawaja at four can both stop collapses and be rocks in the order, especially against the swinging bowl. Hughes opening is best, and Warner can replicate mcullum's form at seven

  • Mitty2 on March 28, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    @pras_punter, although I don't see the relevance to the article, wholeheartedly agree. The obsession with picking youth because of the alternative's age needs to stop. Especially when there is no world cup in tests, the focus should always be on the current result and selection should be "horses for courses". I could not care less if the whole total of tests between Rogers and hussey is 11 and 10 respectively; if they can add to that necessary experience in the ashes and retire straight after, who cares? It would even give more time for silk and burns to develop. The funny thing is, that before hussey's unexpected retirement, i was predicting two ashes series win. With a far superior pace attack; having Clarke + Huss; and having lost only 3 tests since the ashes compared to england's seven,, things were looking good. But as soon as hussey retired, we lost all that experience, and the young batsmen consequently ALL failed, which is why the experience of a Rogers/hussey is a necessity.

  • heathrf1974 on March 28, 2013, 13:24 GMT

    Rogers should be in the Ashes squad. May put pressure on Watson.

  • Mitty2 on March 28, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    Just a reflection of the selector's reliance on NSW to produce international standard cricketers that a man who has only played two FC games, is awarded that state's best. Players from NSW either can't play for NSW because of international commitments or the competition for spots was too high so they had to move states (Cowan, silk, khawaja, etc). As a Vic, you'd call all the selections "NSW bias", but currently, there are NO Vic players worthy for selection and this can be said for SA and WA (barring agar, NCN and Sayers).

    And as an indication of our huge plethora of quicks, we can categorize all of them into types of pace bowlers. Sandhu goes into the category that is occupied by Sayers, bird, butterworth and copeland. Those who are supremely accurate and have that modicum of swing and seam both ways. You can see all of them being successful in england, Sandhu and bird are the best of the lot, because they are relatively faster (135km/h), and extract the most bounce.

  • nzcricket174 on March 28, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    Its still not too late to pick Rogers. Take a look at what Peter Fulton has done. If a man can apply himself, age is no barrier.

  • PrasPunter on March 28, 2013, 12:31 GMT

    Wondering why on Earth is Chris Rogers not in the team ? When Haydos and Katich retired, he should have been the natural choice. But we tried with all those flash-in-the-pan types and went nowhere. The selectors can do really well by picking Rogers as one of the openers for Ashes, given his knowledge about the Eng conditions. But you know what, our folks invest in "youth", those that hardly have the heart to fight it out.

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  • PrasPunter on March 28, 2013, 12:31 GMT

    Wondering why on Earth is Chris Rogers not in the team ? When Haydos and Katich retired, he should have been the natural choice. But we tried with all those flash-in-the-pan types and went nowhere. The selectors can do really well by picking Rogers as one of the openers for Ashes, given his knowledge about the Eng conditions. But you know what, our folks invest in "youth", those that hardly have the heart to fight it out.

  • nzcricket174 on March 28, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    Its still not too late to pick Rogers. Take a look at what Peter Fulton has done. If a man can apply himself, age is no barrier.

  • Mitty2 on March 28, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    Just a reflection of the selector's reliance on NSW to produce international standard cricketers that a man who has only played two FC games, is awarded that state's best. Players from NSW either can't play for NSW because of international commitments or the competition for spots was too high so they had to move states (Cowan, silk, khawaja, etc). As a Vic, you'd call all the selections "NSW bias", but currently, there are NO Vic players worthy for selection and this can be said for SA and WA (barring agar, NCN and Sayers).

    And as an indication of our huge plethora of quicks, we can categorize all of them into types of pace bowlers. Sandhu goes into the category that is occupied by Sayers, bird, butterworth and copeland. Those who are supremely accurate and have that modicum of swing and seam both ways. You can see all of them being successful in england, Sandhu and bird are the best of the lot, because they are relatively faster (135km/h), and extract the most bounce.

  • heathrf1974 on March 28, 2013, 13:24 GMT

    Rogers should be in the Ashes squad. May put pressure on Watson.

  • Mitty2 on March 28, 2013, 13:30 GMT

    @pras_punter, although I don't see the relevance to the article, wholeheartedly agree. The obsession with picking youth because of the alternative's age needs to stop. Especially when there is no world cup in tests, the focus should always be on the current result and selection should be "horses for courses". I could not care less if the whole total of tests between Rogers and hussey is 11 and 10 respectively; if they can add to that necessary experience in the ashes and retire straight after, who cares? It would even give more time for silk and burns to develop. The funny thing is, that before hussey's unexpected retirement, i was predicting two ashes series win. With a far superior pace attack; having Clarke + Huss; and having lost only 3 tests since the ashes compared to england's seven,, things were looking good. But as soon as hussey retired, we lost all that experience, and the young batsmen consequently ALL failed, which is why the experience of a Rogers/hussey is a necessity.

  • Mitty2 on March 28, 2013, 13:40 GMT

    @nzcricket174, perfect example. When you're that age and you've usually been given the hard end of the stick by the selector's.. What greater inventive is there to achieve in each and every test? With hussy, Clarke and ponting in the line up, all of Warner, Cowan and Hughes could work around the rocks and build off their experience/batting prowess, it was the reason we SHOULD have won/at least drawn against SA, and it was the reason I was expecting an ashes upset. Our young batsmen aren't the most talented bunch, but they look all the more better with hussey as well as Clarke. This is why the selectors still persist with Haddin, he has experience, despite not being overally good at what he does.

    Our best batting line up is IMO: Rogers Hughes Cowan khawaja clarke Warner wade/Paine.

    I believe Cowan at three and khawaja at four can both stop collapses and be rocks in the order, especially against the swinging bowl. Hughes opening is best, and Warner can replicate mcullum's form at seven

  • AKS286 on March 28, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    My Ashes Squad- Klinger, Watson, Marsh, Clarke, Forrest/Voges/Ferguson, Haddin, Smith/moises, MJ, Siddle, Pattinson, Beer/Boyce. Two matches and a reward ahead than Copeland. Now I understand from where Khawaja is coming ahead from Marsh, Ferguson, Cosgrove, rogers, forrest, Voges, Klinger, Burns, Quiney, Birt, Silk, Hussey.

  • on March 28, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    What's going on with all the Aussie fans,do you guys really think the Aussie have a strong fast bowling stock unbelievable ,if the Aussies think Siddle,Johnson,hilfeaaus will win back the ashes you guys are livin in cloud cuckoo land,As for the batters Smith,Hughes,Warner not good enough,England's placement will blow them away,if the weather holds up here in England,England will win 5-0.

  • Beertjie on March 28, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    @ Pras_Punter The word is that just as Matt Eliott fell out with Tugga, so Rogers fell out with Punter. Surely the game and our hunger for realisable success should trump any residual fall out? @Kiki Gill on (March 28, 2013, 14:51 GMT) Not that your post merits any response, but most of us don't expect Hilfenhaus and Johnson even to make the tour party. I for one would rotate Harris and Siddle, hoping the former can manage 3 tests. But it is Pattinson, Bird and Starc (if you haven't heard) who most fans expect to be the big wicket takers, whatever your conditions. OK the batting is a problem, so let's suppose for the sake of argument that Hughes and Warner are flops. That still leaves as a top 6 to battle the decisive latter games: Rogers, Cowan, Khawaja, Clarke, Watson and Wade. For me Smith shouldn't go to England, but fans like me can see the holes allright. We're hoping to find ways to fix them by having the right kind of squad members - a better mix than they took to India!

  • PrasPunter on March 28, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    @ Beertjie , absolutely - if we are to get back to those winning ways, can't afford all those fall-outs. Very unfortunate if that was the case. Wondering how the selectors couldnt have their word those days when the captain officially wasn't a selector.

    @Mitty2, Hey even i was sort of getting comfortable with how things were , when all of a sudden, Huss retired and now we struggle to get the right combo. Pretty much doubt that, with the batting group that went to india , we can get a draw, leaving alone winning one. We need mature heads, and we need them now. If Rogers, D Huss are to provide that, then for God's sake, they must be on plane to Eng. Fingers crossed!!