Australia news April 8, 2013

Hartley, Coulter-Nile win state awards

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The wicketkeeper Chris Hartley has been named Queensland's player of the year for 2012-13 while the fast bowler Nathan Coulter-Nile won Western Australia's equivalent award after a strong summer. The state awards period was wrapped up at the weekend with the Queensland titles handed out and Hartley almost swept all categories.

He won the Ian Healy Trophy as the state's player of the year and also picked up the one-day player of the year prize and the players' player award after a season in which he completed the double of 500 Sheffield Shield runs and 50 dismissals. However, the Shield award was the only honour Hartley did not collect as that went to the captain James Hopes for a season that brought him 473 runs at 31.53 and 32 wickets at 22.75.

Hartley was Queensland's second-leading run scorer in the Shield behind Joe Burns, with 510 runs at 28.33 and he also picked up 51 catches and a stumping. The likelihood is that Matthew Wade and Brad Haddin will be Australia's two glovemen on the tour of England later this year but all the same, Hartley's efforts are a reminder to the national selectors in an Ashes year of his consistent output - it was the fourth time he had completed the double of 500 runs and 50 dismissals.

In Western Australia, Coulter-Nile had another encouraging summer and will be in contention for the Ashes squad, although fast bowling is not an area in which Australia lack depth. He collected 26 Shield wickets at 27.92 and was the second leading wicket taker in the Ryobi Cup with 16 victims at 23.18.

The other four states all named their players of the year last month. James Faulkner won the Ricky Ponting Medal in Tasmania, Chris Rogers took out the Bill Lawry Medal in Victoria, in South Australia Chadd Sayers claimed the Neil Dansie Medal and Gurinder Sandhu won the Steve Waugh Medal in New South Wales.

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  • Mitty2 on April 8, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    Coulter-Nile is far behind cutting and McDermott as actual fast bowlers, and wouldn't be as suited to English conditions as Faulkner, butterworth and Sayers. Add to that, there will already be starc, bird, siddle, pattinson and Harris definitely selected; he won't be in contention.

    Not as much of a fan of Hartley as others, still think Paine is the best as he's younger, has a better batting average (albeit small), and has good leadership qualities, but Hartley had a better season. How much better would it be to have those two as our set in stone keepers for all squads? But with the way the selectors are, Neville with his better batting will obviously be next in line.

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on April 10, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    haddins glovework is very unreliable as well, and his batting is most irresponsible. Plus he showed averaging 50 in the shield didn't automatically bring runs in india. I could say the same about hughes

  • Thefakebook on April 9, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    Finally well deserved.Hope to see one of them if not both during the long season ahead with CT and 10 tests and lots of ODIs and T20 to be played.

  • ygkd on April 9, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    I feel Wade missed the boat to become a good keeper, by concentrating on his batting so much. How can one surmise such a thing? Just by looking. There is nothing I see that tells me here is a player who spent his time on good keeping drills in his teens. Rixon cannot change that. He cannot turn the clock back and start Wade over again. Both Healy and Gilchrist started young and put a lot of work into their glovework. That is well-documented. That Manou did the same was obvious by the standard he reached. Ludeman is someone with similar work ethics. Paine has been set back by injury, but is still one of the best around. Hartley is solid and deserves recognition. That he dropped what he should have taken, as Meety says, is a surprise. With Wade, I'd never be surprised in such a manner. I actually think Handscomb has potentially more room for wk improvement than his more senior Vic partner, but as he could be a batsman alone, given the dearth of young batting, that'd be his better path.

  • Meety on April 9, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    @Mitty2 on (April 8, 2013, 12:45 GMT) - not arguing about Wade's keeping, it has been a dissappointment & I feel he has gone backwards even though Rixon (a coach & keeper I respected) is on the staff. I will say that IMO, Wade is a hell of a lot better batsmen than all the Keepers doing the rounds at the moment. My only qualification regarding Wade, is the great Ozzy keepers of my viewing time all IMPROVED significantly after fairly modest starts to their International careers. BTW - that drop by Hartley - I couldn't believe it when it happenned, first drop I'd seen from him that I can recall! I blame the QLD sports writer for that - he put the kiss of death on him by saying he is the best keeper in the country & NEVER drops a chance! @featurewriter on (April 9, 2013, 1:03 GMT) - man you had me stumped! I was wondering how you fit so many players into your XI, then I realised you selected TWELVE players!

  • featurewriter on April 9, 2013, 1:03 GMT

    My 11 for the first Test: Rogers, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Voges, Butterworth, Wade, Johnson, Pattinson, Bird, Lyon. The selectors' team: Cowan, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Henriques, Wade, Siddle, Pattinson, Starc, Lyon.

  • blink182alex on April 8, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    Wicket Keeping is one area in which we have always been strong. I think most of the state keepers would do a decent job in test cricket but i would have Haddin in the side in England. He averaged over 50 in the Shield and out batted Wade in the odi portion of the summer too. As for Wade, i think a keeper should be judged not by how many they take, but by how many they miss, and Wade misses too many chances, his poor keeping has cost us test matches so that's why i would drop him.

    Hartley and Paine are superior keepers, but from what i've seen in Paine in his tests and odi's he should be the no2.

  • AKS286 on April 8, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    i don't understand the dual policy of CA. MJ is the senior & best bowler in all format but he works as a 2nd grade replacement. Some players are very consistent with their Flop performance are having permanent position (Wade, Cowan, Warner, Lyon). If kreja, doherty, MJ bowls poor then they are thrown out of the team. Marsh, Voges, Forrest, paine, Haddin, North, etc bats not well thrown out. WHY this dual parameters? Handscomb is good for Odi. Australia is always poor in Talent management.

  • PrasPunter on April 8, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    @Nigel, absolutely - it still hurts when recollecting Wade missing chances of Smith and FaF in Adelaide - we could have easily won that match - had atleast one of those been taken. Wade's glove-work doesn't instill confidence, and please drop him before he drops the likes of Cook and KP !!

  • Simoc on April 8, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Of the state winners I'de pick James Faulkner as the best talent for England but still behind Bird. The rest are good state battlers and that is where they belong. Haddin seems to be the best keeper these days. Neville can't even get the NSW job as wicketkeeper. The Oz selectors do a good job and not surprisingly they know wicketkeeping better than anyone.

  • Mitty2 on April 8, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    Coulter-Nile is far behind cutting and McDermott as actual fast bowlers, and wouldn't be as suited to English conditions as Faulkner, butterworth and Sayers. Add to that, there will already be starc, bird, siddle, pattinson and Harris definitely selected; he won't be in contention.

    Not as much of a fan of Hartley as others, still think Paine is the best as he's younger, has a better batting average (albeit small), and has good leadership qualities, but Hartley had a better season. How much better would it be to have those two as our set in stone keepers for all squads? But with the way the selectors are, Neville with his better batting will obviously be next in line.

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on April 10, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    haddins glovework is very unreliable as well, and his batting is most irresponsible. Plus he showed averaging 50 in the shield didn't automatically bring runs in india. I could say the same about hughes

  • Thefakebook on April 9, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    Finally well deserved.Hope to see one of them if not both during the long season ahead with CT and 10 tests and lots of ODIs and T20 to be played.

  • ygkd on April 9, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    I feel Wade missed the boat to become a good keeper, by concentrating on his batting so much. How can one surmise such a thing? Just by looking. There is nothing I see that tells me here is a player who spent his time on good keeping drills in his teens. Rixon cannot change that. He cannot turn the clock back and start Wade over again. Both Healy and Gilchrist started young and put a lot of work into their glovework. That is well-documented. That Manou did the same was obvious by the standard he reached. Ludeman is someone with similar work ethics. Paine has been set back by injury, but is still one of the best around. Hartley is solid and deserves recognition. That he dropped what he should have taken, as Meety says, is a surprise. With Wade, I'd never be surprised in such a manner. I actually think Handscomb has potentially more room for wk improvement than his more senior Vic partner, but as he could be a batsman alone, given the dearth of young batting, that'd be his better path.

  • Meety on April 9, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    @Mitty2 on (April 8, 2013, 12:45 GMT) - not arguing about Wade's keeping, it has been a dissappointment & I feel he has gone backwards even though Rixon (a coach & keeper I respected) is on the staff. I will say that IMO, Wade is a hell of a lot better batsmen than all the Keepers doing the rounds at the moment. My only qualification regarding Wade, is the great Ozzy keepers of my viewing time all IMPROVED significantly after fairly modest starts to their International careers. BTW - that drop by Hartley - I couldn't believe it when it happenned, first drop I'd seen from him that I can recall! I blame the QLD sports writer for that - he put the kiss of death on him by saying he is the best keeper in the country & NEVER drops a chance! @featurewriter on (April 9, 2013, 1:03 GMT) - man you had me stumped! I was wondering how you fit so many players into your XI, then I realised you selected TWELVE players!

  • featurewriter on April 9, 2013, 1:03 GMT

    My 11 for the first Test: Rogers, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Voges, Butterworth, Wade, Johnson, Pattinson, Bird, Lyon. The selectors' team: Cowan, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Henriques, Wade, Siddle, Pattinson, Starc, Lyon.

  • blink182alex on April 8, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    Wicket Keeping is one area in which we have always been strong. I think most of the state keepers would do a decent job in test cricket but i would have Haddin in the side in England. He averaged over 50 in the Shield and out batted Wade in the odi portion of the summer too. As for Wade, i think a keeper should be judged not by how many they take, but by how many they miss, and Wade misses too many chances, his poor keeping has cost us test matches so that's why i would drop him.

    Hartley and Paine are superior keepers, but from what i've seen in Paine in his tests and odi's he should be the no2.

  • AKS286 on April 8, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    i don't understand the dual policy of CA. MJ is the senior & best bowler in all format but he works as a 2nd grade replacement. Some players are very consistent with their Flop performance are having permanent position (Wade, Cowan, Warner, Lyon). If kreja, doherty, MJ bowls poor then they are thrown out of the team. Marsh, Voges, Forrest, paine, Haddin, North, etc bats not well thrown out. WHY this dual parameters? Handscomb is good for Odi. Australia is always poor in Talent management.

  • PrasPunter on April 8, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    @Nigel, absolutely - it still hurts when recollecting Wade missing chances of Smith and FaF in Adelaide - we could have easily won that match - had atleast one of those been taken. Wade's glove-work doesn't instill confidence, and please drop him before he drops the likes of Cook and KP !!

  • Simoc on April 8, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Of the state winners I'de pick James Faulkner as the best talent for England but still behind Bird. The rest are good state battlers and that is where they belong. Haddin seems to be the best keeper these days. Neville can't even get the NSW job as wicketkeeper. The Oz selectors do a good job and not surprisingly they know wicketkeeping better than anyone.

  • Mitty2 on April 8, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    @Nigel hayes, I can remember off the top of my head at least ten definite chances that wade has fluffed up from lyon's bowling - I'd even go as far to say that if we had an adept keeper we'd have won the adelaide test match and Lyon would have an average bordering 30. (I stand to be corrected).

    @ozcricketwriter, I watched a large portion of the shield final and testament to hartley's ability I saw him drop a relatively simple chance; and I didnt see Paine make a mistake. Hartley is still a better keeper, but not as much as you say. The points I made in my "featured comment" about Paine still stand. Not to mention that Paine's glovework is so much better than wade's it's not funny. Wade's batting is good, but his glovework more than lets him down. Paine also made a crucial partnership with Faulkner that made tasmania a certainty for the shield. Paine's tests in India and against Pakistan I certainly don't remember many mistakes and his batting more than held up.

  • on April 8, 2013, 11:33 GMT

    Hartley should be in the test team ahead of Wade. He may not be quite as good a batsman (although not far behind) but he is a far superior keeper, and that is what they should be picking. Wade's missed chances have cost Aust, and particularly Nathan Lyon, dearly.

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 8, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    Agree that McDermott is a better fast bowler - not sure about Cutting being test quality though. It seriously annoys me that McDermott is yet to have an international call up though - but, thankfully, such is our talent pool that it doesn't much matter. But what is this about Paine being a quality keeper? He takes less than half as many dismissals as Hartley. How on earth can you compare the two? And how on earth is such a comment featured? Hartley is the best keeper in the country and Wade is the second best - but Wade is a better batsman. Nevill is probably third. The sooner that the Australian selectors stop picking batsmen who stand behind the stumps but can't actually keep - like Haddin and Paine - the better, especially in the test format.

  • hycIass on April 8, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Hartley continues to perform year after year, best gloveman in the country

  • Mary_786 on April 8, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    Well done Hartley, true performer of our domestic scene.

  • Meety on April 8, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    Would love to see Hartley get a spot on the A-Tour of England, although that will almost certainly go to Paine or Haddin. == == == As for NC-N, he is a top talent, but IMO, this season he has been overtaken by other bowlers. I worry that he is another injury concern, don't think he has had a Shield season where he hasn't had a significant injury. I think the way fwd for NC-N is via short form appearances & if he can improve his batting talent.

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 8, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    Shane Warne will be happy that his buddy Nathan Coulter-Nile won something. Warnie had Coulter-Nile in the Australian team in all 3 formats. As for Hartley, I'd have him as Wade's understudy and in the test team, where I think that the best keeper should be playing, Hartley should be seriously considered.

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 8, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    Shane Warne will be happy that his buddy Nathan Coulter-Nile won something. Warnie had Coulter-Nile in the Australian team in all 3 formats. As for Hartley, I'd have him as Wade's understudy and in the test team, where I think that the best keeper should be playing, Hartley should be seriously considered.

  • Meety on April 8, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    Would love to see Hartley get a spot on the A-Tour of England, although that will almost certainly go to Paine or Haddin. == == == As for NC-N, he is a top talent, but IMO, this season he has been overtaken by other bowlers. I worry that he is another injury concern, don't think he has had a Shield season where he hasn't had a significant injury. I think the way fwd for NC-N is via short form appearances & if he can improve his batting talent.

  • Mary_786 on April 8, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    Well done Hartley, true performer of our domestic scene.

  • hycIass on April 8, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Hartley continues to perform year after year, best gloveman in the country

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 8, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    Agree that McDermott is a better fast bowler - not sure about Cutting being test quality though. It seriously annoys me that McDermott is yet to have an international call up though - but, thankfully, such is our talent pool that it doesn't much matter. But what is this about Paine being a quality keeper? He takes less than half as many dismissals as Hartley. How on earth can you compare the two? And how on earth is such a comment featured? Hartley is the best keeper in the country and Wade is the second best - but Wade is a better batsman. Nevill is probably third. The sooner that the Australian selectors stop picking batsmen who stand behind the stumps but can't actually keep - like Haddin and Paine - the better, especially in the test format.

  • on April 8, 2013, 11:33 GMT

    Hartley should be in the test team ahead of Wade. He may not be quite as good a batsman (although not far behind) but he is a far superior keeper, and that is what they should be picking. Wade's missed chances have cost Aust, and particularly Nathan Lyon, dearly.

  • Mitty2 on April 8, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    @Nigel hayes, I can remember off the top of my head at least ten definite chances that wade has fluffed up from lyon's bowling - I'd even go as far to say that if we had an adept keeper we'd have won the adelaide test match and Lyon would have an average bordering 30. (I stand to be corrected).

    @ozcricketwriter, I watched a large portion of the shield final and testament to hartley's ability I saw him drop a relatively simple chance; and I didnt see Paine make a mistake. Hartley is still a better keeper, but not as much as you say. The points I made in my "featured comment" about Paine still stand. Not to mention that Paine's glovework is so much better than wade's it's not funny. Wade's batting is good, but his glovework more than lets him down. Paine also made a crucial partnership with Faulkner that made tasmania a certainty for the shield. Paine's tests in India and against Pakistan I certainly don't remember many mistakes and his batting more than held up.

  • Simoc on April 8, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Of the state winners I'de pick James Faulkner as the best talent for England but still behind Bird. The rest are good state battlers and that is where they belong. Haddin seems to be the best keeper these days. Neville can't even get the NSW job as wicketkeeper. The Oz selectors do a good job and not surprisingly they know wicketkeeping better than anyone.

  • PrasPunter on April 8, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    @Nigel, absolutely - it still hurts when recollecting Wade missing chances of Smith and FaF in Adelaide - we could have easily won that match - had atleast one of those been taken. Wade's glove-work doesn't instill confidence, and please drop him before he drops the likes of Cook and KP !!

  • AKS286 on April 8, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    i don't understand the dual policy of CA. MJ is the senior & best bowler in all format but he works as a 2nd grade replacement. Some players are very consistent with their Flop performance are having permanent position (Wade, Cowan, Warner, Lyon). If kreja, doherty, MJ bowls poor then they are thrown out of the team. Marsh, Voges, Forrest, paine, Haddin, North, etc bats not well thrown out. WHY this dual parameters? Handscomb is good for Odi. Australia is always poor in Talent management.