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Mickey Arthur legal claims leaked

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July 16, 2013

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Mickey Arthur during a press conference, Bristol, June 24, 2013
Mickey Arthur has reportedly made explosive claims about the Australian camp © Getty Images

Former Australia coach Mickey Arthur has reportedly claimed in legal documents that Michael Clarke described Shane Watson and his faction as "a cancer" on the national squad, while also alleging he was the victim of racial discrimination during his time with the team.

The Seven Network has reported the documents tendered to the Fair Work Commission in Sydney, which form part of Arthur's claim for up to AUD 4 million in compensation from Cricket Australia or his job back after his sacking last month, two years before his contract was due to expire. The network reported that the documents claimed "major tension" between Clarke and Watson, and that Arthur felt he was "the meat in the sandwich" between them.

Arthur has released a statement on the leaking of the documents, describing his distress at their details becoming public. "I am extremely upset and disappointed that confidential documents appear to have been given by others to the media," Arthur said. "The matters raised in my application to the FWC concerning issues within the Australian cricket team are very sensitive, which is why I was at pains to keep them confidential, especially at this time.

"I have kept them confidential,unfortunately others have now made them public. I want to stress how important to me the members of the team were, and still remain to me. The welfare of the Australian cricket team is upmost to me."

Arthur's legal representation confirmed allegations of racial discrimination and scapegoating. "We can confirm that last week Mickey Arthur filed proceedings on a number of grounds in the Fair Work Commission (FWC) Sydney for being sacked and scapegoated," a spokesperson for Arthur's law firm said. "The grounds include racial discrimination. This legal action was filed confidentially with FWC as Mickey was at pains to resolve this issue privately."

Speaking at Lord's on Tuesday, Clarke said the airing of the team's dirty laundry would not be allowed to derail their preparations for the second Ashes Test.

"First I'm not going to get involved in it, the most important thing is that we as a team are as focused as we can be on Thursday," Clarke said. "We've obviously got a huge game in front of us, the boys are feeling great, as we showed in the last Test match we're here to fight and do as well as we possibly can in this Test series, and I think we showed that the other day."

Arthur also allegedly reported in the documents that Watson had told him about David Warner's punch at Joe Root in a Birmingham pub during the Champions Trophy, which led to Warner's suspension. Watson previously stated that he was not responsible for passing the information on to Arthur.

The Seven Network also reported that in the documents Arthur claimed Cricket Australia did not support him over the decision to suspend four players on the tour of India over the so-called homework incident. Arthur alleged that he was discriminated against because he was South African and did not understand the Australian way.

"We're disappointed it has come to this position but Cricket Australia is confident in its position on this matter and I'm sure it will get resolved in an appropriate fashion," CA lawyer Dean Kino said.

Paul Marsh, the chief executive of the Australian Cricketers' Association, said he was "extremely disappointed by the allegations" and the timing of their release ahead of the second Ashes Test at Lord's.

"At Mickey's departing press conference he talked about taking responsibility for the team's performances and leaving the job with dignity," Marsh said. "I fail to see how this course of action is consistent with his words and I am disappointed that this has been released two days before such an important Test match.

"Whilst I have genuine sympathy for Mickey's current situation, I hope he can deal with his issues with Cricket Australia privately."

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Posted by   on (July 18, 2013, 7:33 GMT)

I feel for Micky Arthur here as confidential information has leaked and he is being blamed. It not in his interest to spill the beans and from what I have seen he is not the type. He will find a difficult time finding a new position because of this.

Posted by WandererMatt on (July 17, 2013, 22:37 GMT)

Mickey will have a few things to argue before he gets any compensation - Yes Cricket Australia may have to pay out at least some type of compensation, the ultimate deal will be whether or not his sacking was justified under the contract. I would be very surprised if there wasn't a clause in the contract that allowed for early termination of contract upon certain circumstances - and would be VERY surprised if CA didn't get any legal advice before the sacking. In the end it was under Mickey's reign that all of the rifts etc were aired and allowed to happen and in the end as he is the head coach he is ultimately responsible for how the players behave and act. It's the same in any other organisation. Lehmann seems to have united the players better - at least in the short term - and my guess is that there was a lot of tension between the players and Mickey, and this was manifesting itself in rifts between players. Ultimate Mickey could control his subords and so needed to go.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 21:47 GMT)

@Fieryorc and "Who created this mess ? " Exactly ! Sport and business cannot be separated these days . Arthur has every contractual right to sue CA management who , once again , seem hopelessly out of their depth .

The next episode in this sorry saga will reveal who in CA leaked the information to the press .....

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (July 17, 2013, 20:52 GMT)

This is the most awful news yet for Australia. How Clarke described Watson, along with his general leadership of the team, is described by Arthur in a sincere an honest way. He has the right to speak his mind.

Posted by ThyrSaadam on (July 17, 2013, 20:29 GMT)

Coach Mickey Mouse can talk all he wants saying "he really believed they could win the ashes". He said they had a good chance in India too, atleast to learn a great bit. Truth being said the Australia performance during his tenure has not been that good, so you couldnt give him any benefit of doubt going into the Ashes, Its early days for Darren Lehmann too, but the players seems to warm up to him better.

Posted by DaveS99 on (July 17, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

There are a number of people saying pay him and others saying don't. Well - it's simple. Unless he had team performance clauses in his contract Cricket Australia broke his contract - he didn't. If there were performance clauses then I doubt whether he would be trying to sue for breach of contract. I don't know the terms of his contract so I can't say whether he deserves to be paid compensation. If those of you who have expressed an opinion one way or the other are you aware of those terms? If not, on what basis are you expressing an opinion?

Posted by Fieryorc on (July 17, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

@ MV Segar. I think you are missing a bigger picture about Australian batting. We all like to chuckle that their bowlers are currently their top batsmen, but the recent exploits of Stard, Siddle and Agar demonstrate the breadth of cricket training all Aus players get. When their batting picks up - which it will - they will be very tough to deal with. I agree Warner was a bad opener, & have argued that he would be a much better 5 or 6. However, the man is very very talented, and a coach like Lehman might well slap some sense into him & get out of him his great potential, a destructive all rounder. If he starts taking his job seriously, and works hard on his bowling, which is pretty promising, he could be a great Aus asset for years.

Australia's problems are not lack of talent, but rather lack of effective management & administration. If that is resolved, watch out.

P.S. I'm not an Aussie - just a realist.

Posted by Fieryorc on (July 17, 2013, 14:27 GMT)

@ TheBigBoodha. I highly rate any Australian team, & believe that, under most circumstances, they post the biggest challenge to SA for the #1 test position, & that they will soon be back in the top 3 or 2 in one format at least.

That said, please stop reinventing history. You wrote, " They (Australia) were two wickets away from a number one ranking in tests little more than 6 months ago vs SA? " That is incorrect. Australia required a SERIES WIN to retake the #1 spot. They were 2 wickets away from a single test win. If Aus won Adelaide, to win the series they would have had to win or draw in Perth. Adelaide alone would not have brought them the number one ranking. Thus they were "2 wickets and a 'win or draw' away from #1."

Aus would have lost the ranking after their India tour. So at best they were "2 wickets & a 'win or draw' away from 3 months as #1." I think that MV Segar is dead wrong, but you should not reply to his invalid assertions with a hazy version of history.

Posted by emmersonne on (July 17, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

From a legal perspective, CA should settle and settle quickly, or this could get very nasty indeed.

Posted by DickCam on (July 17, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

Rather unprofessional of Mickey one would have to say.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (July 17, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

I find it hard to believe that Cricket Australia didn't know about all of the troubles that Mickey Arthur caused in South Africa before he came to Australia. Sure, technically he wasn't sacked - technically he quit - but he did it while publicly bashing the South Africa board. He had the support of the players but not the board. He was trying to fight the establishment. And Cricket Australia brought him on in spite of that. Why? We have never had a foreign coach before this and Mickey Arthur is nowhere near the right person to have as the first ever overseas born coach. The shame is that there were so many other better coaching options going around - such as Tom Moody, Geoff Marsh and Rod Marsh. Why not go with one of them? Sadly, since Buchanan left, Australia haven't had a good coach. Hopefully Lehmann changes things.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (July 17, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

@MV Sagar "Aussies simply do not have it in them to be at the top3 in any form of cricket for the next few years". Dude, they were ranked number two in ODIs 4 weeks ago! And they will be back up there soon, I predict. They were two wickets away from a number one ranking in tests little more than 6 months ago vs SA? And they finished 3rd in the recent T 20 World Cup. Seems you must know something we don't.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

Ok so Watson is the cancer disease in the team , but can Aussies do without him , the answer is no , does anyone has the guts to man up and turn any game on its face except Watson , look at his bowling economy , Aussies can do without playing the useless 10 , rather than Watson who alone score more than cumulative score of his 10 teammates , till that time , keep calm and carry on ! Watson is irreplaceable .

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 11:51 GMT)

Whether or not Mickey failed as coach, CSA didn't honour their contract with him and all blame was put on him for all Aus' woes since they lost their big guns. The guys replacing the Pontings and Husseys and McGraths and Lees are just not up for it...yet... at least. Look at the batting averages and fitness problems with bowlers, any coach would have a tough time dealing with this, not even mentioning all the rifts and going-ons after hours... CSA, you made this bed, man-up and pay should know this is how pro-sport works these days. As for the team, well there's no excuse and no one to blame now for perfrormance is there?

Posted by 200ondebut on (July 17, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

Fieryorc is spot on. If CA wanted this to go away quietly they should have negotiated a legally binding compromise agreement. Did they really think they could just brush him off and expect nothing to be said whilst they were losing the ashes?

Posted by wanatawu on (July 17, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

Mickey deserves this money. Please England beat them 5-0

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

Aussies simply do not have it in them to be at the top3 in any form of cricket for the next few years.Atlease in tests they can punch above their weight in home surfaces. Apart from that their batting is fragile and unimaginative. When your 3rd best batsman is warner you really have a problem. He simply is no good test opener. Hussey went at the wrong time. They are in transition and they are getting a very fine pace battery. Perhaps they should become a team like Pakistan which again depends only on Bowling. Until they get proper test batsmen they will cut,cry,whine and sack coaches and players.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (July 17, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

I'm looking forward to he second test. Anyone else? All this nonsense will have little effect on anything, I predict. Might even bring the guys closer together.

Posted by Un_Citoyen_Indien on (July 17, 2013, 10:32 GMT)

As if consistent on-field under-performance by the Australians wasn't bad enough, violating contractual obligations is simply unacceptable. And I don't even want to start about racism. The Australian establishment must adopt a zero tolerance policy towards racism (if proven) with immediate effect.

Over the short term, Mickey Arthur ought to be paid his outstanding dues including all liable compensation at the earliest.

Posted by Hammond on (July 17, 2013, 9:56 GMT)

The sad thing is that is 4 million dollars better spent on the grassroots of our great game which is suffering more and more in this latest generation.

Posted by Fieryorc on (July 17, 2013, 9:46 GMT)

Step back. See the big picture. Who created this mess?

1. Arthur didn't hire himself. CA did. CA knew his record, approached him & contracted him. Contracts are difficult to enforce, & best seen as the record of a good faith agreement. Lawyers draw them up to get the best deal for their client.

2. Arthur did not fire himself, CA did. He didn't get results, & was replaced. Fair enough. He wasn't fired because he's a drunk, didn't come to work, etc.

3. If CA ensured a happy ending, he wouldn't sue. They booted him with 3 months pay. No lawyer agrees to that in a national coaching contract! He's suing to get an agreement honoured. Now his lawyers do their job. Go for the jugular. Throw in every detail, every demand. Leak nasty stuff to build pressure. Face it - Arthur is no lawyer, & is not calling strategy!

5. If you don't want a fight, don't make enemies, & don't whine when counterpunched! CA made this a fight, not a quiet business transaction. What did they expect? Christmas cards?

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

I have no time for Micky Arthur but if his claim is successful then the liability rests wit DON ARGUS and JAMES SUTHERLAND. Both are negatives for our game and should be accountable for Arturs diabolical appointment. Interesting how quiet Argus has been since his joke recommendations. Just who is he and why was he given this task. His recommendations have proven to be a complete joke and no one is asking why. Will he return his fee? He should admit how wrong he was and compensate all.

Posted by Okakaboka on (July 17, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

If Andrew MacDonald is fit...He would make by far.....very very far.....the best TEAM Captain. Great cricketer...... sack Watson and employ 'Ronnie' He bowls better than Watson and is a more consistent batsman. He has more than 2 shots....the wack and the block (Watson).

Posted by dunger.bob on (July 17, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

Pay the man, shut up and move on. ... crying over spilt milk is counter productive. We have a takeable foe to vanquish and that's ALL they should be worried about right now. .. whether he met performance targets or not, just pay him out and show some class for God's sake... come on Australia, lets move onward.

Posted by GloryDaysReturn on (July 17, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

@Andross, good points mate. Pup is a good strategist, but seems to lack that authority needed to pull difficult people into line (Watson, Warner, etc.). However, I think we'll see Boof become de facto leader, confidant and media front man, while Clarke will be allowed to concentrate on the on-field side of things. Two things though- he needs to bat at no. 5, and he needs to adopt the English DRS review strategy! Finally, can anyone remember a test match (particularly against good opposition) where Watson was the main contributor to a WIN?? I can't. Clarke, on the other hand, has a number where he was instrumental in the outcome.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

These are the main issues in the team. The top order is not firing. Entire batting is very weak. People were terrified against the regime to that extent that Michael Hussey said that he was scared that he might not get a home farewell if he announced retirement sooner. Players were rotated left, right and center with no/less rationale giving them 0 sense of security. Clarke, as a captain/selector should take sone responsibility for this and resign. What has MA done to address these issues?

Posted by Rocketman1 on (July 17, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

Australia might find some comfort in their stats and current form with their current team. Australia needs a leader of men to be captain of this team. 1. Watson opening has 15 50s and a 100. Other positions he barely averages 30. 2. Clarke should bat 5. His average at 3-12.50, 4-21.51, 5-63.95, 6-48.76. 3. Philip Hughes has batted better in the lower order in recent times. 4. Usman can grind out an innings. 5. Australia have good bowlers. They can even bat! Leadership is lacking here. Get it right and play to your potential.

Posted by Naresh28 on (July 17, 2013, 7:49 GMT)

Oz need a better leader than Clarke as captain. A lot has gone wrong and Oz miss Ponting and Hussey. The transition in the team has been poor. Australia had the chance of leading the Ashes but threw away a good chance. Imagine if Clarke or Watson had contributed more. As for Arthur - it happens to most coaches - no results mean - time to change.

Posted by Massey_T on (July 17, 2013, 7:45 GMT)

Reminds me of chappell who covered his embarassment at not being a good coach by trying to brand the entire indian community as not being leadership worthy except dhoni when he found dhoni was already winning. Some people i tell you!

Posted by disco_bob on (July 17, 2013, 7:42 GMT)

The odds on us winning back the Ashes after having shortened considerably after the first Test have in the wake of this destabilising leak, lengthened considerably to the point that only a fool would bet againt us winning more than a single Test, in spite of England's obvious weakness.

Posted by AhmedEsat on (July 17, 2013, 7:22 GMT)

Clarke used up our DRS when he knew he was out! Good leadership and strategist my foot!

Posted by Bubba2008 on (July 17, 2013, 7:20 GMT)

I understand Arthur's frustration, however the manner in which he has handled this affair is petty and vindictive. Fair enough, he was dismissed and understandably wants what he is entitled to. To criticize an already struggling team so openly is only going to serve to destroy the morale of the team right in the middle of the most widely publicized cricketing series in the world. It is self-centered and only makes Arthur seem childish in his handling of the incident. Personally I have lost a lot of respect for him and hope it doesn't cost him too many coaching opportunities, as I can't imagine there would be many teams willing to place their trust in somebody who has proven he cannot maintain any kind of secrecy between ex-employer and ex-employees. If this is the kind of twofaced behavior he was endorsing in the team environment then frankly his dismissal should not have come as a surprise.

Posted by mixters on (July 17, 2013, 6:54 GMT)

What a rift between Watson and Clarke? Who in Australia was NOT AWARE of that. Same said about the rift between Clarke and Hussy? The thing is all the pal and team mate stuff may have Died with Jane Mcgrath. Nothing brings a team together like the WAGS and that club took a remarkable down turn with the inclusion of Lara Bingle. The great players of the past had a team culture including the WAGS the current mob seem to do a lot of back stabbing

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 5:49 GMT)

@bobmartin - agree completely. Not only that but earlier the selecters/executives were supporting every move of arthur and now after getting hammered in CT, they sack him.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 5:46 GMT)

Australia continue to have problems on and off the field....I'm loving it!! :-D

Posted by paapam on (July 17, 2013, 5:38 GMT)

Tit for tat never took anyone anywhere. Arthur has a strong legal case as the basic principles of natural justice were not followed. He should stick to a defence highlighting the lacunae in CA's action in terminating his cotract without 'due process'. Including details of what are internal and strictly confidential matters in his plaint will neither better his chances of winning the case nor win him any friends. The ham handed way CA have handled the contract termination had left them open to substantial damages. Arthur's plaint seems to forget that the arbitrators will be patriotic Australians. He may have shot himself in the foot and given CA an opening.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 5:38 GMT)

How is Clarke good tactically he ruins bowlers spells chops and changes, asked for the new ball in 2nd innings when England were in trouble, and aus new ball bowling had been consistently useless, misused drs, taking third wicket off agar and putting England in top position, hes terrible tactically and as a leader.. specialist batsman at 5 only. as far as captain replacement let haddin set the fields and he can discuss with other players the wisest bowling changes, its not rocket science. Leadership is often a group effort.

Posted by Surajrises on (July 17, 2013, 5:04 GMT)

This is it guys... I believe this the end of Ashes for Australia at lease in this series. I am sure there is gonna be a huge conflict inside the Aussie dressing room (Not like its not been there but its definitely gonna increase the tension). Clarke has to make statements that his team is pumped up etc etc but this is it according to me for Australia. They r now gonna lose 0-4 to England...

Posted by din7 on (July 17, 2013, 4:57 GMT)

I dont understand why all these fools commenting abt watson-clarke rift etc law u can claim anythin....he just sayin all this to support his compensation claim..and nothin else...he just angry he was removed so hes alleging evrythin he wants..clarke is best captain currently aus have..arthur is not a saint that we accept evrythin he says..aus did the right thin in removing him..had they continued with him he would hav taken aus in level with bang...he was a complete failure as coach for aussies working like teacher of kids..and for rift even if it does exists, it exists in evry other team...evrywhere...but they are professionals and they can get out of it so it doesnt matter if there is rift between watson-clarke...aus will be ok under lehman they shld carry forward...!

Posted by cricket_ahan on (July 17, 2013, 4:51 GMT)

@ Pomozrat. Agreed. Really speaking, no one outside the team will have insight on what is happening within the dressing room, but it's clear that something doesn't smell right. And in Clarke's defense, none of his behaviour, both on and off the field, have been in any way negative. He has played well, tactically captained well, been up-front in accepting faults in both himself and the team, and voluntarily removed himself as a selector. Watson on the other hand has not performed well, his on-field body language is average, he was suspended from a test in India and has lost his vice-captaincy. To paraphrase the popular adage, Actions speak loudly, and it seems like Watson is an issue!

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 4:50 GMT)

there is only one reason he was sacked - he failed as coach of australia. lehmann has proved this in a month. by releasing the dressing room stuff he is merely proving his own incompetence. add to that all the other nonsense that has gone on: rotation of fast bowlers (how would truman, botham, holding, croft etc react to that?), homework assignments, suspensions and non suspensions - the guy clearly had no idea how to handle top level athletes and get the best out of them on a consistent basis. CA should have acted sooner, if anything. racism? give me a beak!

Posted by bobmartin on (July 17, 2013, 4:49 GMT)

Whatever happened to "the buck stops here".... Everybody is blaming Arthur.... but what about those who hired him in the first place.....But of course... like all executives.. they never have to answer for hiring the wrong man..

Posted by MinusZero on (July 17, 2013, 4:46 GMT)

Under fire Cowan and Hughes have both scored more runs than Watson in the last two years. Why is Watson still there?

Posted by garr on (July 17, 2013, 4:16 GMT)

Dear Arish Australians unlike Pakistani fans if that is the word don't burn effigies of players , coaches when team lose or somebody fails. No Ausie cricket is nothing like Pakistan. Alas most of our people including women are granted access to education, so informed decisions can be made. Does my coment not parallel more revant social issue's. Such as informed theological choices.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 3:54 GMT)

Regardless of whatever he did, he has a right to say what he wants in private legal documents. It's not really his fault that someone who should have been trustworthy took a bag of cash to leak these to the media. I hope they find who was responsible and sack him too.

Posted by Chris_Howard on (July 17, 2013, 3:37 GMT)

Good to see it wasn't Mickey who aired made these documents public. A few journos owe him an apology.

I've always respected and valued him as a coach and his time with Australia didn't change that.

I also think Michael Clarke has been a very good captain - tactically. But there's more to being captain and leader than knowing when to change bowlers or what fields to set.

I do feel that as a leader he is failing. It's already cost us Katich. It's undoubtedly affected Watto's form. And as these leaked documents revealed, has created factions in the Australian team.

Unfortunately, we don't have anyone else at the moment.

Posted by Thegimp on (July 17, 2013, 3:36 GMT)

Well I think Micky has just confirmed CA's decision to cut him. His job was to sort issues within the team out, not air them in public. Any professional sports coach is not there to be the King and Ruler of the environment they are there to creat an environment where talent flurishes. Micky Arthur could play the Ultimate Ruler with South Africa because that is their way. Australians are different and don't take well to someone acting the overlord.

Posted by crick_sucks on (July 17, 2013, 3:30 GMT)

Micky Arthur : Clarke :: Greg Chappel : Dravid

Posted by andreben on (July 17, 2013, 2:56 GMT)

He departed with a dignified performance at the press conference but this action tarnishes his reputation.Best to leave on good terms, not be bitter and not jeopardise future coaching opportunities.

Posted by avant182 on (July 17, 2013, 2:46 GMT)

Clarke is not fit for the Ausi cap..yes he has taken from Hussey..what a player he is..and now he knows watson is a good player so he thinks he will come up as a capatin..So he is playing Watson cricket. Issue cant settle private, must settle fac to face then only world will know about people in cricket.

Posted by Chris_P on (July 17, 2013, 2:44 GMT)

Does this really need to be reported. This is not what cricket is, this is tacky headline hunting media.

Posted by Dave1970 on (July 17, 2013, 2:20 GMT)

Diagnoses - Cancer Treatment - Surgery remove growth(s)

Watson always appears to be high maintenance player with little out-put. His talent is not in question, his application is.

Clarke always appears to be involved in player disagreements but was made captain none-the-less.

These ingredients do not go well together; & which description is more cancerous than the other? Is it a wonder that there is tension between them? Surely not. It is as obvious as walking out in front of a bus!

Watson must be on his last legs, if he can't consistently perform bring in youth & give them time to grow (agar is good example).

Clarke is nearing his end, he said he didn't want to be that thirty something player that plays on too long, so retire at the end of the back to back ashes.

Surgery successful - Cancers removed.

Recovery The question then is who is our next Captain. Steve Smith has shown a maturity which can work. He is young enough and seasoned enough at first class.

Posted by cricpanther on (July 17, 2013, 2:08 GMT)

This is sad for great ACB!!! Why can't selectors see the bads of Micky and Michael, both are not good and fit for this positions of coach and captaincy. Australia should have appoint Great Shane Watson as Captain...He is the best and better than Michael Clerk in any of the cricket positions, captain, bowler, fielder, batsman, influence in players, true gentleman!!! Why are you stick with Clerk for such a long period of time!!!! Where are the legends??? Great Ian Chappel, Great Dean Johnes, Great Shane Warne, Sir Allan Boarder, Great Mark Taylor and Great Steve Waugh??? It's good to change captain as well as coach for Australia. Remove Clerk and also Remove Micky. APPOINT WATTO for CAPTAIN and APPOINT Great DEAN JOHNES as COACH. These two can make all the difference, also took advise of greats!!!!

Posted by OneEyedAussie on (July 17, 2013, 1:23 GMT)

I can't feel sorry for Arthur considering his role as selector (along with Clarke) gave him control over the team that most coaches would only dream about. So the question is: if Watson was such a problem, "a cancer", then why was he not removed from the test team until such time as his attitude improved? Arthur and Clarke certainly had the influence to do so.

In terms of relevant news, all of this is really stale. The Watson-Clarke rift has been well known for quite some time. Clarke's cronyism has also been public knowledge for quite some time. I don't see how any of this is evidence of Arthur deserving a payout, in fact the contrary.

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 1:13 GMT)

I read articles regularly on cricinfo and occasionally have a look at the comments from people. Almost all of the time, you all talk complete rubbish and seem to have no idea about what is going on. How would any of you know what goes on in the inner sanctum of the Australian team and therefore have knowledge of whose fault things are and who does not get on with whom. Keep your ridiculous opinions to yourself and gain a better understanding of this great game. Have any of you even played cricket at a decent level..doubtful.

Posted by Munners1 on (July 17, 2013, 1:11 GMT)

Arthur has every right to seek compensation for what he sees is a breach of contract, but his approach shows the same lack of judgement in the "homework incident". Writing down anything that explosive into a document which you don't have complete control over - you are asking for trouble! It's the national cricket team! You won't be able to keep that quiet. Secondly, quit whining about being unfairly treated as a South African - international coaches must adjust to different cultures. If he really thought his nationality was an issue, then the onus was on him to solve that problem. What kind of coach turns up expecting the team to adjust around him? The only dignity left to him was a graceful exit, and it looks like he is blowing that option.

Posted by redneck on (July 17, 2013, 0:54 GMT)

when india sacked greg chappel it was because he clashed with players. in other words the australian way clashed with the way indian way. in fact i remember the media reporting it through his time with india as a clash of cultures. this is no different. athurs bording school headmaster aproach does not work for australia in the way it might work in south africa or perhaps england. however i think its fair to say having a whinge and airing dirty laundry most of which was unknown to the general public before hand because you got sacked is pretty much frowned upon world wide!!! good luck finding a job in cricket now mickey!!! its funny most people genuinly felt sympathy for him when he lost his job and the circumstances in which he did. i doubt they think that way now!!!

Posted by   on (July 17, 2013, 0:36 GMT)

Clarke may be the problem, but so is Watson. The difference is Clarke is a great batsman and Watson is not. Not in tests anyway.

Posted by David_Boon on (July 17, 2013, 0:07 GMT)

Racial discrimination? They're all the same race! Being a different nationality does not equate to racial discrimination. If he had trouble because he was South African and they were all Australian he should have thought of that before he took the job on! Also, this just confirms what everyone already knew - that Clarke and Watson are probably a couple of dropkicks.

Posted by Robdownunder on (July 16, 2013, 23:51 GMT)

Paul Marsh with all due respect, seems to be flying a kite. Arthur did not leak the comments, he was at pains to keep it confidential. Someone within CA seems to have. Why aren't they detected and turfed out?

Posted by funkybluesman on (July 16, 2013, 23:48 GMT)

Arthur was sacked because he totally failed to be able to manage the players, he didn't have their respect and wasn't able to unify them and direct them in any way. In other words he completely failed in everything the coach was supposed to do.

I wish people would stop having a go at Clarke. So he once had an argument with Simon Katich when he was younger. So what. Get over it guys! Clarke has been carrying the Australian team on his back for the last few years. It's no wonder he's struggling with back issues!

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 23:19 GMT)

Also to be fair to Clarke Watson does articulate everything thats wrong with Aus cricket right now... Failing to live to his ability with the bat, having a history of dummy spits and egotism and not putting his hand up when someone needs to take responsibility...

Posted by JimmyDee on (July 16, 2013, 23:12 GMT)

Arthurs is citing racial discrimination because he is from S.A and doesn't understand "The Australian Way"? Didn't he coach the Western Warriors and was ultimately given the top job because of his deep understanding of Australian Cricket? His exit from the S.A coaching job was unsavory as well. This entire affair has been ugly and is fast turning into childish slinging match. My question is the timing of this "leaked" document being aired, given the somewhat galvanized attitude of the Aussies in the first test.

Posted by Moppa on (July 16, 2013, 23:00 GMT)

I was initially angry with Arthur, thinking he was trying to inflame the situation during the Ashes tour to angle for a quick and generous settlement, but now understand that he did not release the details publicly. In terms of the Clarke-Watson rift, it's funny how those with a pre-determined dislike of Clarke come out and say its all Clarke's fault. What about Watson? He supposedly a senior player in the side and has obviously been carrying on like a prima donna for years. Look at how Australia performed in the India 2011-12 series, when Watson was out - fantastic and the spirit of the side was excellent. And, to those people implying that Ponting and Hussey were somehow moved on by Clarke - this is completely baseless and incorrect. Clarke and Arthur had backed Ponting for years, and it was Ponting's own realisation that he wasn't up to it after the Adelaide Test that prompted his retirement. Hussey retired for personal reasons, kerfuffle around the post-Test party notwithstanding.

Posted by harmske on (July 16, 2013, 22:50 GMT)

Either $4million or his job back. LOL keep dreaming mickey, keep on dreaming (especially about the latter of those two things ever eventuating).

Posted by SamWintson92 on (July 16, 2013, 22:41 GMT)

a) If Aus wants to dominate international cricket, Aus wants huge contributions from the pillars of Watson, Warner & Clarke. It's disheartening to see they are in news for controversy these days b) I never liked Mickey Arthur as a coach. First the homework drama & suspension of 4 players. I remember he was always a roadblock for the career of Shaun Pollock & eventually he retired c) I don't understand what are the issues of Clarke with certain players. If he really ended career of Katich etc, then Aus should look for a new captain.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (July 16, 2013, 22:39 GMT)

Who does Clarke actually get on with? My observation is that for all his worth as a player he seems to have few friends in the Test side and around. I may be wrong but that is just my perception from Katich to Watson.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 22:15 GMT)

Can someone explain the racial discrimination bit? If it has something to do with Mickey Arthur being South African, then it is not about race. It might be about nationality, but unless he is of a different genetic makeup that firmly places him in a different subset of the human race than the Australians he is complaining about, then someone needs to take a biology class, not to mention having a good read of the dictionary.

Posted by WheresTheEmpire on (July 16, 2013, 21:43 GMT)

If the "telling talesl" and "playing the victim" contained in this report are the way Arthur goes about things I am beginning to understand the problems and failure under his watch and the necessity for his removal.

Posted by hhillbumper on (July 16, 2013, 21:42 GMT)

this is a pretty old mess.All we heard for years was about the mystique of the baggy green.It would appear it was a myth and the only thing that held it together was winning.

You have to wonder what is happening in the back ground.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 21:36 GMT)

@HansonKoch - lol, other than Agar & Clarke, no one averages above 40 in this Australian team so Watson is "quite good" compared to others.

But Clarke would be cursing the timing of this revelation in the middle of an Ashes series. Things between Clarke and Watson aren't going to be quite easy now. Neither is it between Warner and Watto. Sad state of affairs going on in Australian cricket, all of which I primarily hold responsible the captain, Michael Clarke. Clarke may be a wonderful batsman, but as captain, he is hopeless and lacks the disciplinarian abilities.

I have a feeling CA are going to be forced to pay up big money, Arthur was treated unfairly after all.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 20:14 GMT)

Ok ... the coach has been sacked and had his little tantrum. But let's remind ourselves that Arthur's sacking did not happen in isolation .... Michael Clarke has been stripped of being a selector and now Warner has been exiled to Africa.

People above Arthur and Clarke obviously believe that Watson is not the cancer in the Australian Team. He is still in the team and, with four other openers to choose from, he is the current Australian opener. It is quite evident that if Watson reported of Warner & Co, it has been seen as a good thing ... someone willing to do what is right instead of what was easy.

Let's remind ourselves who was targeted in the "Homework" Scandal and who was dumped from the Australian only two tests ago.

The question is ... "Who didn't want the incident reported??" Well from the outfall that has occurred, it is quite evident who those people were.

All I can say is Arthur had better win the legal battle because his next international job may be the Singapore U19's

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 19:55 GMT)

Micky has every right to do what he is doing! The problem is Clarke and Watson. Their rift has caused this. I believe that people's ego's have become bigger than the game but boards can't get rid of them and so too satisfy the public they get rid of coaches and make excuses for a year or two that change has occurred but will take time to be successful! come one that's a load of rubbish! Ego's need to be addressed with Warner Clarke everyone that plays the game for any country. Coaches aren't always the problem and changing them isn't always the solution!

Posted by Greatest_Game on (July 16, 2013, 18:13 GMT)

Step back. See the big picture. Who created this mess?

1. Arthur didn't hire himself. CA did. CA knew his record, approached him & contracted him. Contracts are difficult to enforce, & best seen as the record of a good faith agreement. Lawyers draw them up to get the best deal for their client.

2. Arthur did not fire himself, CA did. He didn't get results, & was replaced. Fair enough. He wasn't fired because he's a drunk, didn't come to work, etc.

3. If CA ensured a happy ending, he wouldn't sue. They booted him with 3 months pay. No lawyer agrees to that in a national coaching contract! He's suing to get an agreement honoured. Now his lawyers do their job. Go for the jugular. Throw in every detail, every demand. Leak nasty stuff to build pressure. Face it - Arthur is no lawyer, & is not calling strategy!

5. If you don't want a fight, don't make enemies, & don't whine when counterpunched! CA made this a fight, not a quiet business transaction. What did they expect? Christmas cards?

Posted by Biggus on (July 16, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

I suppose I should be more alarmed about this than I am, but I'm not entirely sure that the end effect won't actually be a positive one. Despite the rumours about Clarke's poor man management skills I'd prefer him calling the shots than the perenially injured and mentally soft and 'precious' Watson. Gee, I don't know, if you want to play for Australia you're supposed to put away petty jealousies and pitch in for the team interests, although that doesn't always work that way, as Dennis Lillee and Rod Marsh's atrocious treatment of Kim Hughes showed. Nevertheless, that's the way it's supposed to work, and when the details of the whole Kim Hughes saga came out in the end there was a groundswell of sympathy for Hughes and a tarnishing of the images of Lillee and Marsh because the latter two were seen to have put their own interests before the team. Likewise those who are chafing under what are supposed to be Clarke's inexpert man management skills should pull their heads in or leave IMHO.

Posted by Alexk400 on (July 16, 2013, 17:34 GMT)

Give him money after real story comes out. Dirty laundry good. Gossip is good. Then pay him some money. He is the one lost the job. Stop being vindictive CA. You are the one hired him. Aussie team should always hire aussie coach. Period. India always should hire foreign coach because india is actually a divided country top to bottom. Foreigner unite india. Indian coach will be very political and biased against other states. North indian coach will be biased against south indian players , vice versa. For CA , aussie coach bring aussie way of playing and standards. Professional coaching is not about discipline or technical skills , it is about being a good nanny.

Posted by Naren on (July 16, 2013, 17:09 GMT)

They will now have another Argus Review. I think the team was in a better position before the review than now. Comedy of errors. But it now confirms that Clarke does not matter who the person is, if he does not like him he will do everything in his control to remove that person. Katich, now Watson.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

MA has not washed dirty linen in public. He did his best, but when he didn't get the support of either the players or the board, what could he do? Like a few have already pointed out, he kept it confidential and was not the one who made it public. The Aussies need to learn to accept that their dressing room is not the best, in terms of player-player relationship. Now that DL has taken over, hopefully that should get sorted out and Aussies should be on the road to recovery. The same thing happened with India not so long ago. The coach remained the same, but underperformers were replaced. However, racism is a different ball game, and needs to be dealt with legally. The players should not let this legal tangle bother them, but just put their heads down and do their job which is to play cricket. The other things will be sorted out in the due course.

Posted by brusselslion on (July 16, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

If I were in Arthur's position, I don't think that I'd be holding my breath waiting for the offer of the job back !

Posted by Sundararajan on (July 16, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

To all those who are saying Mickey is washing dirty linen in public or he is sore or he is just saying it to get back at people due to the sacking or anything else along those lines.. please remember, this is a legal document he has mentioned it in and not some report. You can't just write stuff in a legal document. Also he is not the one who has 'aired' this. He has presented it at wherever the legal stuff happens and it is actually channel 7 that has leaked it. Arthur has actually acted in a mature manner by not airing all this in public. In the press conferences in public following his dismissal, he took responsibility and did not talk about all this. So I would say the blame lies squarely with Michael Clarke's leadership and inept CA administration.

Posted by inswing on (July 16, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

Arthur was fired because the team was losing. Everything else has little to do with it. To lash out like this is very childish. Internal politics within the team, players not getting along, etc. are always present. He is not going to get any major coaching job after this type of behavior.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 15:25 GMT)

Arthur is better off being away from the Australian team. The Aussies always tend to put the blame on external factors when they perform badly and if you read the comments section of Cricinfo articles you can find blames on all sorts of things for losses- pitches, weather, umpires, colour of the soil etc. There is not much he can do with a group of adults who refuse to learn, or probably too arrogant to accept advice from a non-Australian like Arthur. As they say, you can wake up someone who is asleep but not someone who is pretending to be asleep.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 15:20 GMT)

well well .... seems Aussie team is not much different than pakistan team ... they just usually manage to handle media more professionally

Posted by Batmanindallas on (July 16, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

I was never a fan of people like Arthur or Buchanan becoming coaches at national level. It is hard for them to get the respect from international players

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 14:48 GMT)

The real villain in the piece is the worst captain Aussies have ever had and that's Michael Clarke. His way to this position is littered with the blood from the wounds of Mike Hussey and Simon Katich, both literally and figuratively. Someone suggests that Arthur settle the matter privately with CA. How on earth is that possible, when they had the audacity to remove him unceremoniously?? Aussies have to learn to accept setbacks on the field and concentrate on the rebuilding of their team, which they can do in less than 2 years and get back their world No 1 position in all forms of the game, but not under Clarke, no. never.

Posted by Rumjuggers on (July 16, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

Arthur was a good coach? You're kidding! When he was coach of SA, they constantly under performed despite having a hugely talented group of players.

Posted by Pomozrat on (July 16, 2013, 14:42 GMT)

England dumped a world class player (KP) for doing what an under performing walking ego like Watson is allegedly doing. Show some courage Oz cricket and cut this cancer from your team. Losing with him might as well lose without him.

Posted by chitti_cricket on (July 16, 2013, 14:23 GMT)

what ever Arthur is doing does not auger well. For what ever reasons he was sacked he should have settled the matters with CA amicably, but by not divulging Australia's dressing root matters. That brings his reputation further low. In modern day cricket they are giving major role to coach who neither bowls nor bats, he is only a strategist and helps players adhere to some discipline and technique. CA should have defined Arthur's role before hiring him. But seems like they gave him full powers and also to captain. At a later stage CA realized they way they handled team and Sr.Players was in their liking. So they should have counseled then the right way they wanted. But instead CA decided to sack him The mistake lies on both sides and should be sorted more in amicable fashion than confrontationist. Please don't do these kind of things in the middle of intense Ashes series. Settle them.

Posted by Batmanian on (July 16, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

The bizarre thing is, Arthur is historically a very good coach. There probably is something to his airing of dysfunction within the team, but wasn't it his job to heal or at least caulk that? It's hard to quantify what he should be paid out... obviously a bit (a million, say?), but claiming four million shows him in a very poor light. He wants a very high level of compensation for failing?

Posted by TheUltimateTruth on (July 16, 2013, 14:13 GMT)

CA has handled this poorly. They should have worked out a settlement with Arthur when he was fired. You can't blame Arthur for dragging them through the mud now. For his own sake I hope he is well off enough to not need another job -- he is not going to get one. I also hope he has more things to reveal; otherwise he has lost his leverage now, and I can't see CA settling with him.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (July 16, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

I'm not too worried. This is what was happening when Arthur was in charge. Lehmann will and is doing a better job. This is actually past news.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

Hire a offshore team member.... Rahul Dravid is good choice :) :)

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 13:44 GMT)

Well Paul Marsh may be "extremely disappointed" at the timing and the course of action but the sacking by CA was hardly at an opportune time and Micky Arthur has all the rights to claim his "golden parachute" from CA. The fact of the matter is that the Aussies, as a nation of proud cricketers and coaches, were almost desperate to see Micky fail and replace him with an "Aussie" (they've never had a foreign coach). People should also remember how dignified were BCCI in (in comparison to CA anyway) "asking" Greg Chappell to leave after a much more troublesome reign.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

I can't see Arthur getting another senior job after this. He made a total porridge of the Australia job, and now is adding insuilt to injury by airing Australia's dirty laundry in the middle of the Ashes.

He can't blame anyone else for losing the dressing room. If you treat adults like children, don't be surprised if they aren't impressed.

Posted by lennie_pascoe1001 on (July 16, 2013, 13:17 GMT)

New Australian captain, AC Agar

Posted by bobagorof on (July 16, 2013, 13:15 GMT)

I read in another report that Arthur was claiming that Clarke embraced discipline but Watson didn't. If that's the case, then how does Arthur explain Warner getting into the situation where he could punch Root? I'd think Watson would be embracing discipline by ensuring all members of the squad adhere to it, not just some. Considering Warner was one of the worst offenders in the months leading up to the India series, yet was able to play because he completed one specific task while others were banned, there seems to be some double-standards under Micky's watch. I have some sympathy for him losing his job thanks to the actions of others, but coming out like this seems like sour grapes and trying to tarnish one player (Watson) while protecting another (Warner) - the latter actually being responsible for of his sacking. Curious.

Posted by Aristocratt on (July 16, 2013, 12:50 GMT)

Yeoldbarbonian, well said. You're so HandsOn.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 12:45 GMT)

well Australia has an Excuse if they lose the 2nd test at Lords

Posted by Aristocratt on (July 16, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

A man has been sacked. He wants to be compensated $4 million. He's raised some issues. Those issues, however, do not touch upon issues like how he failed to deliver as a coach. Why the CA was justified to call for his head. How he failed to keep factions within a losing unit from growing. And why he chose to remain a meat-in-the-sandwich for so long, when just remaining a nondescript vegetable would have sufficed.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

CA should now consult with BCCI on how to handle this situation, afterall BCCI is so adept at pushing far more serious things under a giant carpet.

Posted by thelapal on (July 16, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

We all need to support Arthur he is the person who suffered a lot due to internal politics in australian team and there is no doubt that the pressure will keep mounting up on the players if they keep loosing test matches. Everyone should question clarke why watson is bowling in ashes if he thinks that he is not a wicket tacking bowler ? watson proved that he is decent bowler and he also got ian bell close lbw and bowled good spell why was he not given ball during indian tour not even a single over is it because arthur is coach at that time and now lehman insisted clarke to give bowling to watson ? or clarke feels that ashes is more crucial than india tour ? There is something fishy here.Did australia board had a plan to drop arthur from the beginning and insisted team not to support him ? well for many reasons everyone should give support to arthur in this case.

Posted by CricLook on (July 16, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

The whole thing is too unfortunate! We , the neutral fans always heard about Australian professionalism and sound management, this is real setback.

Australia should find a good captain not necessarily a good player at the moment. Things are stand as they cant even use their available talent because of real leadership and management.

Clarke may be an excellent player but he messed up with lot of issues. He is only better than other batsman at the moment not the type of the great australian side. To get the best from him he should get rid of captaincy. Because of recent saga he already lost his credibility and moral authority to lead the side.

Finally, CA should take some hard but necessary step to eliminate this sort of things for good. The team is talented yet young one. They will deliver definitely if they get proper guidance and leadership

Posted by Tongariro on (July 16, 2013, 12:38 GMT)

There are 4 main components to the current problems within Australian cricket. Firstly, CA under Sutherland lost the plot sometime ago...more interested in the financial side (re sponsors and TV rights) than in the development and standards of the game. Secondly, the Coach. Arthur appeared incapable of developing, controlling, guiding and mentoring the team in a way that elicited respect and discipline. Thirdly, Clarke as captain. He not only has an on-field role, but also an off-field role as well to guide and mentor his younger, less experienced colleagues. He should be able to demonstrate leadership, not just be the captain. His overall leadership appears to be lacking. Finally, Watson. I have long viewed Watson as the 'elephant in the room' within the test side. He is the most hyped about member of the test team and most certainly has a very high opinion of his own perceived talents. What has he really achieved since his first test? The team would be better off without him.

Posted by waheed_kkj on (July 16, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

He said, he felt like "the meat in the sandwich" between Watson and Clark. I believe that's a failure from his part, since we was unable to handle things in a better way.

Obviously he was a couch and should have handled things in a better way. Or may be he is not mentioning the real reasons..

Posted by millsy24 on (July 16, 2013, 12:26 GMT)

Rajeshj, Katich was sacked by CA before Clarke was even made captain. Ponting was in very poor form and had been for a couple of years prior, he knew he wouldn't be selected. It was a shame that Hussey decided to retire, we could have done with him over there. Finncam, Clarke is a team man. That might be his trouble, he is passionate about this team winning, maybe too passionate. In saying that, some of the others should have his work ethic and passion to win and we might go better. Watson has always been one of the problems in the team and all the words you use to describe him are 100% spot on. It is different when you are winning, even if there are problems in the team, but when you are losing every game it always comes out. Shame on whoever leaked it Channel 7 and shame on them for airing it tonight. They could have waited until the series was over.

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (July 16, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

The sad thing is Ive just watch Brad Haddin give a press conference and all he was asked about was Mickey Arthur and DRS and not about the Lords Test which is upcoming. Arthur was appointed, he wasn't up to it and got sacked and his lawyers are now trying to maximise his payout. If he'd stayed I would have bet the Ashes would have been 5 three day defeats. Australia still have the lesser team but Trent Bridge showed them giving their all and behind the coach. That's all you ask as a fan until changes can be made to improve the team for the long term.

Posted by RJHB on (July 16, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

Hmmm there didn't seem much of a rift on the field in the first test, Watson and Clarke did ok, other than that missed catch. I do feel sorry for Arthur, he's a good guy who's had to come in to a mess left behind by the previous captain and coach. Ditto Clarke. There's no doubt there are some total boofheads in that team that need an iron fist leadership to keep in line. Clarke is a good tactical captain but a Border/Taylor/Waugh disciplinarian he isn't! Hopefully Boof can pick up the slack that Arthur could not.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

I think its really tough time for Cricket in Aus and their troops..once upon a time they were on a role model and now they are no more near that and IND is taken over all the credit and no one leading Aus in better way as Pointing did that well..

Posted by Aristocratt on (July 16, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

Watson and Co were dropped from a Test in India because both Arthur and Clarke wanted them dropped over e-homework issues. That opened up whatever old wounds would have existed, and Watson headed home, a la N.S. Sidhu. Arthur's revelations have nothing new to say. There have been factions in Aussie camps, and for that matter all cricketing camps around the world. We know what happened when Kim Hughes was captain, and Lillee and Marsh were his in his team, but not exactly as mates. Dhoni had to unceremoniously parade an entire Indian cricket team in a bizarre show of unity, even the Delhi "faction" joined the parade. KP and Andrew Strauss, wasn't the best of friendships really. So what's new with factions? They are as old as the game.

Ponting had his favourite-----Symonds, Clarke has his----Warner. How is it different from any other era?

How are these "revelations" by the meat-in-the-sandwich explosive? Why is the media biting into this so hungrily? A man has been sacked. He wants t

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

He was discriminated against because he didn't understand the Australian Way. Isn't that part of any job? Understanding the culture in which you're operating? He wasn't going to be a good fit and was too arrogant to understand that. Perhaps that is the South African way...

Posted by Rajeshj on (July 16, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

So the true faces of Watson and Clarke are emerging out now.. The needless sacking of Simon Katich gave hints about Clarke's involvement in it.. the sudden departure of Ponting and Hussey sounded a bit strange, when both of them were enthusiastic to play in this Ashes.. So Clarke had been messing around with proven seniors to get his players of choice into the team.. I don't think he deserves any bit to be a captain of the team.. and Sutherland should be reprimanded too for his poor management.. he should have been disposed off at the time of Argus review itself.. by persisting with him, the Board has let the ills of previous regime continue .. Watson pretended he couldn't bowl in India series, but was able to bowl in IPL a few weeks later.. Even Indian board had the guts to remove a player of Sehwag's stature.. I don't know why the Aussie team still persist with Watson.. a lot of clarity will arise after his removal and stripping captaincy from Clarke..

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

Doesnt sound like a whole big deal .. will b sorted out amicably.

Posted by Beertjie on (July 16, 2013, 11:50 GMT)

Very well put, @ Haiphong on (July 16, 2013, 10:52 GMT). He showed as much with the notorious Katich incident. I truly wish both Warner and Hughes every success on this tour, but please treat people fairly! Spot on @CustomKid on (July 16, 2013, 10:57 GMT) in your analysis. Arthur was never a suitable coach, but Sutherland needs to go asap.When Clarke will go is a matter of some conjecture.Perhaps after Ashes II if they can't regain the urn.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 11:38 GMT)

Having coaches from foreign countries is not always good. This can also be seen with the rugby coach from New Zealand. This is especially true for a country like Australia who's got such a successful sporting history.

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 11:34 GMT)

Why this nonsensical thing is coming up in the middle of a fantastic test series.. come on we need cricket on the field. Aussies were starting to look good after a long time. All this will divert their attention.. Come on CA get this sorted out quickly.

Posted by Dashgar on (July 16, 2013, 11:33 GMT)

So basically Arthur claims he couldn't get players to work together, he also couldn't get the team to perform, and these are his arguments as to why he should KEEP his job. Arthur was hopeless and his dismissal should have come months ago.

Posted by Jalz007 on (July 16, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

Smart Job Mickey! Now he has put a gun on Cricket Australia forehead demanding that he be taken back or else face the heat!! CA is now facing an embarrasing situation either way.

Posted by finncam on (July 16, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

I'm quite sure Arthur's statement that he was discriminated against because he was South African and did not understand the Australian way has some validity, because I've heard this very thing said so often from some sections of the Australian media, ex-players and the general public. We've been hearing it also with Robbie Deans. How far and deep it goes will probably not be revealed in the near future. Likewise Watson's divisive role in the team, which probably also has some substance, given his self-absorbtion, sense of entitlement and love of media interviews. I'm imagine ARthur felt he did everything he could and his personal hurt is very deep. I'm also sure that the team dysfunction was not just his fault: Watson was a mouthy agitator before Arthurs came along, and Clarke has never been a team man. It's all come to pieces after a long buildup. But Arthur's timing is unfortunate for the game, anyway.

Posted by ozwriter on (July 16, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

i think most would say arthur was the "cancer". with him gone, there is no more homework gate and the clarke-watson rift is at least not on public display

Posted by CustomKid on (July 16, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

@haiphong it's nothing new, Clarke is a fine captain, great batsman, and a great tactician who will gamble on losing if it means he'll win. One thing that he isn't is a good leader of men and this has been know for a long time. Think the removal of katich, or the post retirement party for mike hussey that got turned on its head due to Clarke pulling rank.

Posted by whatawicket on (July 16, 2013, 11:12 GMT)

that what happens were managers /coaches whatever you want to call him gets sacked as he did. me thinks i can smell a scoop by 1 of the brit press coming on. we had our KP last year whose next. that must be his lost wages seems excessive

Posted by Meety on (July 16, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

@Stephen Putnam - I've been calling for Sutherlands sacking about 2 years ago. Everybody else has been sacked during his tenure except him. If Arthurs has any loophole to claim anything than Sutherland has not done his job. Imagine what $4m could do at the grass roots levels of cricket? If Arthurs gets paid this (fair play to him) - fault MUST be with Sutherland - he was heavilyinvolved in Arthurs sacking!

Posted by yorkaus on (July 16, 2013, 11:04 GMT)

I don't think this can be described as Arthur dishing dirt. He has filed a legal complaint and as part of that complaint, he needs to back up his claims with evidence. I think the whole Clarke-Watson thing is nothing new, but is interesting to hear Watson does not have the courage to own up to what he says.

Posted by Jagger on (July 16, 2013, 11:01 GMT)

Take it out of Sutherland's pay.

Posted by CustomKid on (July 16, 2013, 10:57 GMT)

@stephen Putnam, you sir deserve a medal of some description. The argus review did everything but one and that was to scrap the incompetent administration of CA. Sutherland should have been clipped years ago, and if anyone is a cancer on the national team it's him and his team behind scenes.

The CEO is ultimately responsible for performance and development of the game, and where aus were once leaders in the development of grass roots cricket through to the academy it's gone backwards at a rate of knots. They have the budget to throw at young kids to compete with AFL, NRL, etc and now there are vacancies in the national side they should be driving it home to secure young talent but still they sit on their hands and focus on t20. It's a disgrace and the sooner Sutherland is gone the better, he might make the money but the reinvestment is appalling.

Posted by Haiphong on (July 16, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

'Michael Clarke described Shane Watson and his faction as "a cancer" on the national squad'... Can anyone imagine Ponting saying that of anyone on his team? That IS lack of leadership - and I think signs are beginning to show that Clarke is not the leader everyone thought he would be. So, on one hand, we have 'Watson and his faction' as a cancer (wonder who "his faction" includes) while on the other we have his obvious bias for keeping Warner and Hughes in the team, despite repeated failures on their part. Certainly not the signs of someone who would inspire trurst and confidence!

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

I'm not a huge fan of James Sutherland, but I'm even less of a fan of John Inverarity. I reckon Bichel and Marsh should take on more senior roles in the selection panel. I also think that they ought to appoint John Buchanan to some role in the CA board as well. He needs to be utilised.

Posted by thebarmyarmy on (July 16, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

This just gets funnier by each day...

Posted by 200ondebut on (July 16, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

The fact that Arthur describes the Clarke/Watson "factions " - is evidence enough that he was not effective as a national coach. His role should be to ensure team unity and ensure that these factions don't exist. He has either shot himself in the foot or highlighted the fact that the captain and the coach don't get the team they want - and by extrapolation the support they need from Cricket Australia.

Posted by yeoldbarbonian on (July 16, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

I'm not sure Watson's average is the problem, his inability to post big scores is. That said, a username often tells us all we need to know.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (July 16, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

I'm sure Arthur is hurt by this whole affair but I hope that he's not just dishing dirt to get back at the Australia team. I imagine he's concerned that his reputation as a coach, and therefore future employment prospects, will have been damaged by his sacking but I can't help feeling this will do as much, if not more, damage. That said, while I certainly don't know for sure, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a certain amount of discrimination that has taken place. Certainly there was opposition to Arthur's appointment in the first place based on his not being Australian. That's from outside the team but I'd not be surprised to hear that it was reflected by some parties within the team too. It maybe that Lehmann is a better coach for this group of players than Arthur or maybe just a better coach, but there's an impression that the players will do things for him that they just wouldn't for Arthur. Then again, maybe they got to there over time due to poor or inappropriate coaching.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (July 16, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

I fail to see how this "he said, she said" type of gossip helps Australia win the Ashes. Keep this stuff behind closed doors, please.

Posted by cozens on (July 16, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

if Watson and his fraction were the 'cancer' then why on earth was he being selected ? I could understand if he averaged 45+ and scored 100's. You'd then have an argument that he is to good to drop, but he's an average opener. Surely there were other openers who could have played and averaged as many as he has, and importantly brought harmony to the team ?

Posted by   on (July 16, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

Get rid of Sutherland! It amazes me that no-one's questioned his role.

Posted by HansonKoch on (July 16, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

Watson's batting average says all we need to know.

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