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BCB chief hopeful of Pakistan participation in BPL

Mohammad Isam

January 1, 2013

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Nazmul Hassan talks to the media in a press conference, Dhaka, December 31, 2012
BCB president Nazmul Hassan is hopeful that Pakistani players will play in the BPL © AFP

The fall-out of Bangladesh's reluctance to tour Pakistan could be costly for the forthcoming second season of the Bangladesh Premier League (BPL), but the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) is confident that cricketers from Pakistan will be made available. Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) chairman Zaka Ashraf's use of the word "might" in the case of the Pakistan players' availability has eased fears of a complete pull-out.

"I still believe that a large number of Pakistani players will play in the BPL," Nazmul Hassan, the BCB president, said on Tuesday. "He [Zaka Ashraf] didn't directly say that the players won't play in the BPL. He said that they will have their own league at that point of time, something which might not allow their players to come to Bangladesh. All I can do is hope for their availability."

The BPL is scheduled to begin on January 18, clashing with the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, Pakistan's domestic first-class tournament. The PCB is unlikely to let some of the top Pakistan players take part in the BPL, though more than 50 cricketers were bought by the franchises in the auction.

The seven franchises will begin their training camps from the second week of January, with foreign players expected to start arriving from January 4. If the PCB is to give NOCs (No-Objection Certificate) for the BPL, the BCB would prefer them soon because a pull-out would require the governing council and Game On Sports, BPL's event management firm, to host a closed-door auction. In that case, it would throw the tournament into chaos, a scenario that is a major concern for the owners.

"We did not receive any information of the Pakistan players not attending this year's BPL yet. Of course it's a concern as all the franchises had plans with the Pakistani cricketers that they bought from the auction. If they (Pakistani cricketers) are not available we (the franchisees) will have to look for other options," Shihab Chowdhury, Dhaka Gladiators' managing director, said.

Another owner, Sylhet Royals' Nafeesa Kamal, believed that in the event of a pull-out, the franchises will not have enough players to fill those vacant spots. "Not having Pakistan players is definitely a concern and I think we should be informed soon about their status. If the BPL plans to hold a closed-door auction in the event of their unavailability, we will be left with very few good options."

The overall reaction to Bangladesh's deferment has been of relief in many quarters as the general perception in the country has been negative about the proposed tour. But the BCB is not ready to give up on their bilateral relations with their Pakistan counterparts, and the man having to answer all the questions at this stage, Hassan, has had to resort to diplomacy. "I haven't spoken to them [the PCB] officially regarding this issue. We haven't received the reply to our letter which we sent to them four days back.

"I am not blaming Pakistan, I understand their sentiment but this is not intentional. There is no politics in it. It's the situation that has compelled us not to tour Pakistan at this point of time," said Hassan.

There still remains a sense of confidence among those who run the BPL directly, but if the PCB announces a pull-out of the top players, new players have to be recruited at short notice. The BCB would start the new year on a bad note, off the field, if their money-spinning T20 tournament runs into problems.

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent

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Posted by zaf100 on (January 4, 2013, 22:53 GMT)

Get real Bangladesh fans yes your team won few games played at home but what about overseas record and apart from Pakistan which country is willingly inviting them ? Pakistan team where ever goes draw big crowds and play attractive cricket on the other hand Bangladesh play negative cricket and happy to play for draw in tests if they can which they hardly do. Bangladesh need Pakistan more than we need Bangladesh. This phase will pass but Pakistan will remember your yes no attitude. Pakistan shouldn't send their players for BPL. If BCB cancelled a very short tour because of social media than PCB should know through this medium that no Pakistani wants their players in BPL. Recently Sanath jayasuria brought world eleven in Karachi Pakistan and played two 20/20 matches. Both matches were sold out and security was excellent so security excuse is not valid for Bangladesh any more. PCB please focus on South African tour and make sure we perform well in South Africa against number one team.

Posted by miafridi on (January 4, 2013, 19:20 GMT)

[b]TheRisingTeam[/b] && [b]The_Ashes[/b] You too completely mis-understood my statement. What i intended to say was that BCB said that they refused to tour pakistan because many people in the social media criticized the decision of BCB to tour Pakistan. All i am saying is that decisions aren't made keeping in view the social media. The ground realities had been analyzed by the security team of the BCB and they gave a green signal to the tour. So if the decisions are to be based on the social media than the BCB then what was the need of sending a security team to Pakistan? Why are they paying to those Security team members. Eliminate the security team and some other teams which aren't required and each time when you have to make a decision then Poll on the social media. No need to send members to other countries to see the arrangements. Lastly i would say i have always wished for bangladesh to win whenever they play against other teams(except pakistan.LOL)

Posted by The_Ashes on (January 4, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

@miafridin - Sour grapes? or Cold feet? everyone knows teams come and go i.e. West Indies 70s domination now look at them can;t beat minnows in a series, remember the Australia domination in Cricket between 99-07 where they were simply unstoppable now look at them, clearly isn't the team like they once was during that period. Bangladesh owns many of your youth teams, youths teams especially Pakistan will eventually have to use and I doubt they will score 4,4,4,6 etc against our Shakib, or bowl such players out with the snap of your fingers get real its common sense but many are still blind ha ha...future is clear 100 million bangla supporters will take Bangladesh Cricket everywhere good luck indeed! :D

Posted by wiseshah on (January 4, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

@paki pace---- weak WI side? r u out of ur mind? every star players played plus their moral was high after wining world cup plus few months ago they did reasonably well in indian soil against india and beat NZ and played well against aussie team. Bangladesh beat full strength WI team, they came to whitewash BD team

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (January 4, 2013, 13:58 GMT)

@miafridi:- Are you okay? who do you think you are to which country should and not be playing Cricket? every country deserves to play Cricket and you're only saying that cause you scared on the rise of many teams which is good to see. Bangladesh are not the old Bangladesh of 2000-2005 period so WAKE UP!!! and smell the coffee for once. Bangladesh is a country of 160 million so yeah good luck you need it and more than 10 million live throughout the rest of the world every country deserve to play Cricket even in other sports i.e. Football you see a top team like Germany take on Faroe Islands. We beat in the last 2 years, England, New Zealand, India, West Indies etc so no we will still continue just don't be afraid it won't get you anywhere :)

Posted by miafridi on (January 4, 2013, 13:24 GMT)

BCB was well aware of the situation in pak both the times when they agreed to come pak. But both times refusing to come firstly saying security issue and the second time saying due to opposition by bangla fans on social media. How Funny. if they really care their fans views on social media then Bangladesh should quit cricket because after every match/series loss their fans(disappointed due to Bangladesh performance for decades) on social media suggest bangladesh to quit cricket. So BCB if you really care about your fans views on social media then please quit playing cricket. Oh God please.

Posted by davidatlas999 on (January 4, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

as for as bpl i think pak going for it.i just they will not provide noc but they just invite bcb member for some talk on same issue so for me they will release player for bpl its my feeling may be m wrong.

Posted by   on (January 4, 2013, 10:46 GMT)

No need to send our players to Bangladesh after the blatant disrespect that they have shown to Pakistan. They need to reap consequences.

Posted by PakiPace on (January 4, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

It is wrong for anyone to bash Bangladesh cricket. Playing for Biman and others as a teenager helped develop me into an international cricketer for Pakistan. For years, the Dhaka leagues having given young Pakistani a great training ground for the better Pakistani domestic sides. I agree that Bangladesh should not be playing test cricket at the moment, and this is supported by their performances over the past decade. However, they can develop into a competitive ODI and T20 side if they focus on these forms of the game. Test cricket requires a solid four-day first-class structure to support it. BCB should focus on developing that with just four sides playing each other regularly with all the top talent focused there, with perhaps a few supporting seasoned foreign imports. Then Bangladesh should send its national side to play in the the Indian and Pakistani first-class tournaments. This would be far better than getting hammered test after test, with the odd win against a weak WI

Posted by wiseshah on (January 4, 2013, 1:25 GMT)

when pakistan was denied a tour because of safety reason, pak fan start bashing bangladesh team as minnow, when they forget last 2 years bangladesh won several series, beat almost all the big team, all bilateral series ended up at 2-1, runner up in asia cup, beat west indies 3-2, beat NZ 4-0, success after success for bangladesh team. they says they want better team to visit pak--which they shouldnt even dream of. aus, saf, england wont visit pak to face another SL incident. india, nz, wi wont visit them either. so be happy to play in other country

Posted by Cricket_theBestGame on (January 4, 2013, 0:12 GMT)

@AKM_Saifullah - ok fine security is an issue with BD. fair enough. but why does BD continue to commit for the tour and pull out last minute?? why not say no tour until we are satisfied with security and will do our checks etc?? this dual face game that BD plays is well known and now coming to light. i agree with another poster that with pak playing home series abroad in uae, our team has adapted well to perform overseas in general. i don't care if cricket doesn't return to pak. as long as pak plays and wins its good for international cricekt. even with low level of talent we still manage to get players like junaid, jamshed and tall man bowler!!

pcb should stop inviting BD and accepting any tour invitation. don't allow players to go for BPL and make own domestic cricket strong. once our domestic cricket becomes strong we'll have more better players and internation cricket will be better for it.

Posted by Shan.z on (January 3, 2013, 14:22 GMT)

BAN even got the test status bcoz of Pak. Pakistan should not play with them anymore to teach them a good lesson..

Posted by PlaySafeus on (January 3, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

@Ali Ashraf Really I respect your sentiments that BPL can be success without Pak players, and I also think it can be. But you are out of your mind when depicting Bangladesh a territory of prove/certificate for Pakistan players. We have always produced world class bowlers and couple of good enough batsmen in each decade. Maybe you could say it after ten years from now but not today. Come back to reality. Only loss for Pakistani players would be financial and nothing else, if they can live without IPL so they will manage with BPL. Good Pak players will get other tournaments in world and remaining local will have Pakistani league. And guess what, BAN is reacting on BCCI to reject proposed tour but on other hand BCCI and PCB relations have improved which may allow Pak players back in IPL. Only BAN will be in hot waters at that time (a planted chess piece and nothing more.

Posted by   on (January 3, 2013, 6:34 GMT)

Hello Pakistani Fans. Remmeber Pak players are not playing in BPL for loving BPL they will come for their financial benifit. Moreover this tournament is an also change for your player to prove themsef. Ohh yaa, don't forget that Ahmed Sehzad and Mr. Nasir Jamshed who played year and year's in Bangladesh. Now they are proven in PAK national team. We don't have huge loss if Paki player's don't play in this tournament. The irreparable loos is your players .

Posted by   on (January 3, 2013, 5:55 GMT)

Pakistan should not to play against low quality teams like bangladesh. They are mean minded peoples. Just before the series they are begging for their icc vote because no one listen to the bangladesh board for their poorness and then only PCB help them.They are ungratefull to PAKISTAN.There is a no security issue who knows better from me.If you dont want to tour Pakistan then why are you raising this issue again and again your court has dismiss this tour and then why again this. And one more thing if you dont want to tour its alright we are not forcing you but dont comment against PAKISTAN.

Posted by   on (January 3, 2013, 5:49 GMT)

Pakistan cricket board should not give NOC to its players..bangladesh don't really care about pakistan cricket so why should we send our players to them and waste their talent and time there???BCB follows intruction from bcci so why not invite indian players to BPL,,Try them! i bet they would not even think before saying no..thats the truth.BPL is a failure with pakistani palyers and thats what it is..

Posted by Ali.Mirza on (January 3, 2013, 5:48 GMT)

In'Sha'ALLAH international cricket will return to Pakistan SOON....

Posted by   on (January 3, 2013, 4:34 GMT)

The fate of the BPL lies in the hands of the Pakistan Cricket Board. I hope the PCB will do the right thing here and withhold NOC's from all Pakistan players. Besides the BPL was always a bad idea and Pakistan shouldnt be responsible for propping it up.

Posted by getsetgopk on (January 3, 2013, 4:26 GMT)

The only way BD cricket is ever going to be in the limelight is when they act like a two faced politician backstabbing a major cricketing nation time and again. Thats their two minutes of fame to be honest. They are no good to no one, have a team thats not worth playing in the first place and their word is as good as a dog barking in the distance. To say BD fans are delusional will be an understatement acting as if BD is not a third world poverty stricken country where 80% of population have no access to clean drinking water. We should focus on playing in UAE for the near future until the dust settles down. cut all ties with BD cricket, no BPL no bilateral series or anything, its all a useless and time wasting exercise. Thinking that BD has moved beyond 1971 is a joke too, they clearly haven't and they never will, so much for the brotherhood.

Posted by   on (January 3, 2013, 3:21 GMT)

My question from all BD fans is why Pak should participate in BPL and not organize their own league? Even if no intl. teams agree to visit Pak now, y should Pak not develop/improve their domestic cricket rather than participating in BPL?

Posted by AKM_Saifullah on (January 3, 2013, 1:29 GMT)

Pakistan plays better cricket, agreed.Their players should be focusing on playing home tournaments, agreed.The doubt over BD players going to PAK to play PPL is also valid and make sense.However,the principal issue remains easy and simple. Is the security condition in Pakistan is encouraging for a foreign team to visit there?NO.Is there any other nation going to Pakistan to play cricket there?NO.Has ICC given the green light on the said matter?NO. We hope that situation in Pakistan will improve soon.Bilateral ties between the two brotherly nations will uphold.Desperately waiting to see thrillers like what the World saw in Multan, Dhaka(Asia Cup2012), Northamptonshire (World Cup1999). Sentiments and emotion of PAK fans are well understood. Respected too. Lets also respect the wish of BD cricketers and sentiment of BD ppl.Every person has their fundamental right to make a decision when that comes to personal security.Sincerely hope that the aura of Cricket will prevail over Politics.

Posted by atoldr on (January 3, 2013, 0:35 GMT)

Relax PAK fans! First realize what situation you have in Pakistan, everyday atleast 10 people are being killed by terrorist attack there.....Not only Bangladeshi players, any foreign national will think thousand times to visit Pakistan. If situation gets better every country will play there. Don't compare your local teams or national team with Bangladesh Team. BAN is a new team , still learning and getting better everyday. BPL is offering lot of foreign currency to PAK, because economy is there is much worse than don't act foolish here.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 22:46 GMT)

even i think Pakistani players must refuse to play in BPL the world in not end on BPL in sha Allah internation cricket will come back soon in Pakistan and must remember ''an end could be a new start'' regards

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 21:52 GMT)

Pakistani players should not go to bangladesh to play their league as they will not improve their skills. Pakistan should play their own domestic quaide azam trophy where they can give youngsters the chance to improve their skills and also encourage the up coming cricketers.It will also give pakistani fans to see some the best players in the world playing

Posted by Cric_info_pak on (January 2, 2013, 21:22 GMT)

who wants bangldesh ,,,, pakistan level is very high even match between small cities like multan and hyderabad got more quality player then bangladesh entire team....

Posted by Desihungama on (January 2, 2013, 20:34 GMT)

Question is will Bangladesh send it's player if and when Pakistan Domestic League (PPL) requests it? I doubt it. So relations should be on par. As for Pakistani players, they are and have always been in demand in Australia and England domestic circuit so there is no question that players will get their fare share. As for Bangladesh, I see no harm in Pakistan severing it's ties. After all, if it wasn't for Pakistan Cricket there would be no Bangladesh Cricket. Their cricket board and countrymen hate Pakistanis anyway so what's the use of playing cricket with them as we are not even rivals?

Posted by Abu-Ashhad on (January 2, 2013, 20:18 GMT)

In my opinion, PCB should send the players to play BPL and no need to urge BCB to play in Pakistan...and I think they have right to visit us. InshAllah there will be good time here and my country will consider a safe place for everyone:)

Posted by AK47_pk on (January 2, 2013, 20:17 GMT)

Pcb shud raise the issue of bangla test status in next icc meeting. They faild to justify that they are worthy to play tests. Im sure england australia newzeeland nd south afriqa will support this move. Nd they shud be asked to play more with associates to improve . Im suggesting this cuz its the right way for bangla to improve nd earn some respect. Bpl shud be banned for betterment of bangla players as its killing watever chances they have to improve in longer formate of game. As a cricket fan I want bangla to do well so these recomendations must be implented asap. Love from pakistan for bangla.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 19:44 GMT)

Same as BCB is doing efforts to flourish its league, PCB is doing same efforts to restore international cricket in Pakistan. If Bangla Players don't wana visit Pakistan, PCB has full right to protect its national interests and to not issue NOCs to its players. Everyone know that we are having successful domestic leagues every year with thousands of cricket lovers in stadiums, recently we had biggest youth festival in Punjab, made different world records and proved that there is no such security issue in Pakistan for any player in the world. We are going to prove it again in upcoming domestic T20 series starting from 18th of this month. Its just an international agenda to destabilize Pakistan in all fields on the name of law and order situation. PCB should not issue NOCs to its players just because of BCB's double standards and Indian influenced decisions against Pakistan Cricket.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 18:39 GMT)

Both fans from either side you are saying brothers each other but you are not acting like as it is. Be sure this will make others happy while you guys are arguing & making allegations on each other & would not bring any solution to you guys by anymeans. We all know how each teams supported each other till now all the way on every possible aspects. Not only that but also if you can make a serve you might be able to find supporters from each country to back them up as well when they play with other opponent teams except themselves. So while such issues came up where one brother is having such difficulties to send their team then other brother should try to look things positively to create an environment where their brother can feels ease to be there. Both should keep in mind, when things will change their brother could be the first one to assist them when it is essential. It could be just a matter of time. All it requires some patients & common understanding for better cricketing future.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 17:05 GMT)

Both sides seem too frustrated. Guys attacking each other wont help any cause just hope BCB had kept their promise evn by sending the B team if possible and not playing in BPL is going to hurt both the countries also

Posted by Rezaul on (January 2, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

To the Pak fans who are angry and writing emotional comments about BCB and Bangladesh cricket. For reality check, please see that only one test playing nation (Bangladesh) is considering to tour Pakistan at this moment even at this chaotic situation in Pakistan. No other team is even considering that as an option. On the other hand Bangladesh team expressed their interest again and again to tour their. Hope you did not forget when NZL team went back home keeping their tour half complete and no other teams wanted to tour Pakistan (Aus, Eng, SA postponed their tour), Bangladesh went there and played a full series in 2003. Dont you think thats a friend and well wisher team? This time the situation is far worse. Yet, Bangladesh did not cancell the tour but postponed for a while and waiting for security to improve their. Dont you think thats fair enough? So, before bullying against BCB and Bangladesh team please think twice. Again, Bangladesh still considers touring Pak, nobody else does.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 16:30 GMT)

Nauman Ahmad, do whatever delights you.

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 2, 2013, 16:15 GMT)

@SarfBD: Mate we are not frustrated but we definitely are angry on BCB fr not fulfilling the promise. Hope you spread the good message and that is what we want. We dont want bilateral series but a respect should be given to both sides.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 16:13 GMT)

It is Bangladesh's right to not come to Pakistan for security reason. We can't force them to come and play in Pakistan. Pakistan is doing great aboard winning most of its matches and no need to hurry.

Posted by davidatlas999 on (January 2, 2013, 16:12 GMT)

i just watch news that bngla board three member are coming to pakistan to convince pak board on its all happening here lets see out come as a pakistani m angry cause no matter they have every right about thier player safety but how they can play with us like this? They did that 3 time. On top of that when we saw 1st comment here we got more angry. They make our fun.thats why its started on 1st place. Yes i know we behaved really badly every team had some strong and some weaknes. Frankly i got knee surgery so am on rest thats why i follow lots of cricket now days.i watched some matches of bngla against wi and m really impressed the way they played.they depend alot on shakib but he did not played against wi and still they won.thats more important.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

Salam everybody BCB is wrong by all means. If they did not intend to visit then should not make a false commitment. This hurt 176 + millions of Pakistani People as they feel let down by BCB. Also wish Our fans(BD) should have some reason-ability not to hurt Pakistani brothers by their comments. This is an uneasy situation in which BCB has to explain more than any others.

Wish bot country prosper in Cricket and in other fields... also hope my country (BD) have some professional who can run BCB without creating such unpleasant situation

Posted by AzAb12754 on (January 2, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

Pakistan fans you can hate our team and fans all you want but most of us Bangladesh love and respect the Pakistan Cricket team. When Bangladesh wasn't playing Cricket, we were huge fans of Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Saeed Anwar etc but please don't single out and attack our specific players because its not their fault instead, blame our BCB officials. I hope International Cricket returns in Pakistan soon.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 14:56 GMT)

BPL can have all the Pakistani discards. Washouts like Azhar Mahmood and Rana Naveed can make a couple of grands (if BPL pays this time). Imran Nazeer and Abdur Razzaq can entertain the Bangla fans. We all love Bangla cricket fans but there is no love needed for BCB.

Posted by kc69 on (January 2, 2013, 14:39 GMT)

Just like indian fans even Pak and Bangladeshi cricket fans are emotional.But i believe there has to be an respect of decision.If Bangladesh doesn't want to play in Pak then Pak players not being allowed in BPL is justified.I seriously doubt why PCB is looking for only test playing nations to start home matches.It could rather try out non-test playing nations which will slowly build confidence.Look i understand the emotions of Pak fans but from an outsider point of view i still believe Safety of its players is always the priority for any nation.So cool down and don't really make a big deal out of it and have trust in your respective cricket boards.

Posted by PPL11 on (January 2, 2013, 14:19 GMT)

Again and again there are some senseless comments here. not sure why some people of Pakistan thinks BCCI denied BCB to tour Pakistan when BCCI is holding current series with Pakistan, Get Educated guys !!

Posted by bart02 on (January 2, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

if security is a concern then the bengalis should know that recently the world 11 toured pakistan this team included sanath jaysuriya (sri lanka), andre nel and bosman they played 2 T2Os and returned back to their country without any attack on them. look it up

Posted by reality_check on (January 2, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

I think Pak players must participate in BPL. PCB should give a written confirmation of this to BCB that all Pak players auctioned will be available... then two days before the start of BPL, go public and say sorry, Pak players will be unable to participate because of this or that reason.

Posted by SarfBD on (January 2, 2013, 14:08 GMT)

I think we, BD fans, should stop backing BCB as they created this uneasy situation and hope that PAK fans will try to understand our concern for our cricketers.

Posted by SarfBD on (January 2, 2013, 14:02 GMT)

@ Pak fans, we understand your emotion, and have sympathy for you as a cricket loving nation. You have every reason to be angry and frustrated. But try to understand our situation. Almost everyday we read something bad about Pakistan and terrorist attack. Now, is it unusual that we are concerned about the well-being of our cricketers? It's true they are not world's best, but we love them. The fact is our greedy ex-president Kamal made this mess and I'm personally sorry for that, if that means anything to you. No one loves that guy. Just remember how we admire your team and players whenever they come to Bangladesh. I'll be very happy if we can have bi-lateral tours in future. But not now. Have our best wishes for your team.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

whatever the icc, bcci and bcb do Pakistan's cricket can't be wiped out.the results shows that they are the most consistent side in the world after the 2007 world cup who has played every semifinal of icc do whatever you want to do with our cricket..

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 2, 2013, 12:47 GMT)

@Sadequl: W/salaam brother. We do understand the situation and we also know that touring Pakistan is really a worth thinking matter in any case. We do not say that Bangladesh cricket team should come. We don't need anything from anyone except a sense of promise from the Cricket board of Bangladesh. The matter could have been resolved in the way that your cricket chief was to come in Pakistan or called the Pakistani chief to have discussion for the favorable conclusion. Once the Pakistani Chief would have called it off, which he could have really, then it was all well. The only thing that provokes anger is that the BCB hasn't fulfilled the commitment and the most BD fans are like celebrating this dishonesty. Most of the BD fans are justifying even the way this thing has been concluded which is totally wrong.

Posted by Kingzzzz on (January 2, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

A lot of Bangla fans are still not understanding the main point, we Pakistanis are angry and a bit upset because Bangladesh have been playing with us about this proposed short tour for well over a year just look at the TIMELINE on cricinfo, it speaks for itself. When these Bangladesh officials the then BCB President Kamal was very satisfied with the security in Pakistan and made a positive response to us and was committed for the Bangladesh team to tour there but then your BCB changed their mind again for the obvious reasons even though you were satisfied so clearly Politics have got in the way in this decision. You literally wasted our time and all you should've said from right at the beginning is NO then we wouldn't be having such issues.

Posted by Sadequl on (January 2, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

Dear Pak fans - Assalamualikum. Please try to be generous & let the weather of terrorism passed away from your country now. Till then have some patient rather then trying to bring guest counties to visit your country atm, cause if something goes wrong with security measures then just imagine what can happen to your cricketing future or how easily your country can send to isolation from cricketing world. Try to respect what BCB tried in here within their limitations & they were almost ready until situation got worse from last month in your place. If things goes smoothly near future then who knows, we might be able to see cricket to be back in Pakistan sooner too. Wish you will understand the dept of the matter for the sake of your future cricket in Pakistan.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 11:53 GMT)

Dear Ms. Nawal, I, strongly, agree with my compatriots that Pakistani players should not be allowed to participate in the BPL in any sense of the word. To tell you the truth, after backing out a couple of time, BCB deserves to be followed no more, and should be left alone (in your words).

Don't you worry, a much stronger team(s) is/are going to tour Pakistan before long, and the BCB will hanker after sending the team.


Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 11:30 GMT)

I am in solidarity with Pak fans because if BD didn't wish to play in Pakistan it would have been better to have not confirmed the series!

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

The BCB and bangladesh government has made this a political issue,which is totally based on hatred and ego. This is their 2nd time they are breaking their commitment. PCB should invite other teams such as afghanistan or zimbabwe instead of requested them again and again, and should not issue NOC to pakistani players to play in BPL.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

with due respect, Pakistan Cricket board didn't make the commitment first. It was BCB. Like I said in the previous post, you BD fans just have to realize the fault and stop backing your board wrongly when you know by yourself that the first commitment was from the BD. No other board had given the word to tour Pakistan but the Bangladesh Cricket Board did. I am a Pakistani but i have guts to say that if pakistan is forcing BD, it is doing wrong. The only thing we all say is about the promise which is not fulfilled. April 2012 wasn't a safe era for Pakistan either when the BCB made commitment.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

So as usual Bangladesh backed off after promising for the tour. That's the second time BD board has stabbed us on the back. So if in future Pakistan have a proposed tour to Bangladesh as according to ICC Future Tour program then they should announce the Pakistan's B Team for full tour and reason should be given that Pakistan's strong side doesn't want to play in Bangladesh. This will definitely help our youngsters to groom a bit but certainly would be alarming situation for BCB as viewership and sponsorship will certainly go down. Now for BPL I think when PSL starts InshALLAh I hope our players wont be free enough to go there and play BPL league. And If Bangali fans think that their league is better off if Pak players dont take part then in your first edition world saw which players gave the real great performances and Bangali players were always dropping catches.

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 2, 2013, 10:51 GMT)

Dear Bangla Fans! we admire you passion regarding the safety first. It is your noncontroversial right to protest again the tour of your cricket team to any of the country in the world. All we say is that this argument would have gone not too long when you would have realized that the fault is from your Cricket Board. They should not have committed. You seem backing your board on the decision of not sending team to pakistan and we anticipate your protest and concern. But none of you people said that a promise is broken and at least realizing that fault is naturally ethical but you then raise the point that it was the fault of decision making individuals. We are very happy even though we are not having cricket and this cricket is continued well in the other parts of the world and board is also financially strong enough. Cricket is not the bread and butter of public but we urge that the word from bangladesh should have been honored, at least by the fans who fight.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

well most of the paki fans want to pull out their players from BPL so i m hoping PCB soon announce it officially so after then our player can take part in domestic matches and spend more time to get ready for a tough tour coming in Feb

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 2, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

I am not talking about the commitment between Zaka and Kamal. I am talking about the commitment between two boards. It is totally your concern that who made the promise. For us, it was BCB, not Kamal. You think that Kamal was he only man thinking this way? It must have been a whole system going into the stream of making commitment. Do you think that ll Zaka does is on his own? Certainly not. Similarly, what kamal did was the decision of your whole cricket system. This is just the lame argument that what kamal did was his own policy and now you support the policy of your new chief.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

My dear Pakistani fans,

I admit your eagerness to bring back International Cricket in your country. I also understand your anger derived from your broken heart. And I do feel your pain. But, you also need to be realistic. I don't know what you think about the security condition in your county. All we come to know through the news media is that there are bomb blasts, shootouts here and there in Pakistan almost every day. If you feel with our heart, would you ever send your brother, husband, son or beloved ones to such a place where being alive is supposed to be the second possibility?

It doesn't matter, whether Pakistani players are allowed to play in BPL, be sure that most of the Bangladeshi hearts will wish to see Pakistan victorious when ever they play against a team other than Bangladesh as they always did.

I wish, one day, Pakistan would be such a safe place that not only Bangladesh but any other cricketing nation would send their team with pleasure.

Wish you a safe Pakistan.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

Mr. afaqmalik1 and PAK fans:

If you think BCB made false promise, write a letter of complaint to Lotus Kamal, Nazmul Hasan and the rest of the members of BCB. Don't take your grievance out on us, please. We do not hate Pakistan Cricket Team. We, rather, encourage love and solidarity between us.

Cheers, Nabila

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 2, 2013, 9:54 GMT)

Ms. Nawal, with due respect, Pakistan Cricket board didn't make the commitment first. It was BCB. Like I said in the previous post, you BD fans just have to realize the fault and stop backing your board wrongly when you know by yourself that the first commitment was from the BD. No other board had given the word to tour Pakistan but the Bangladesh Cricket Board did. I am a Pakistani but i have guts to say that if pakistan is forcing BD, it is doing wrong. The only thing we all say is about the promise which is not fulfilled. April 2012 wasn't a safe era for Pakistan either when the BCB made commitment.

Posted by Saeed.Lodhi on (January 2, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

PAK players should not be playing in BPL, period !

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

If Bangladesh tours Pakistan, PCB allows Pak players to participate in BPL. This is the worst conditional statement I've ever come across with. Some Pak fans regard BD as minnows. Why the hell do you ask us to tour you then? Why not PCB asks the strong teams such as Aus, SA, or Eng to tour Pakistan? Granted, we are minnow. So, please, for God's sake, leave us alone.

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 2, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

@MohammadHasan: Brother its great that you have found some excuse to justify your board's decision to not fulfill the promise but tell me mate; was it the Australian security analyst team who approved the BD tour to Pakistan? Was it the promise of Australian cricket chief that he will send the cricket team to Pakistan. Read the timeline attached to the this post on the very first page of Cricinfo and you will know who started the discussion about sending team to Pakistan. And then prove me wrong by showing that it was not Bangladesh security analyst team who approved the tour to go on. We know that Pakistan is facing security threats and we are not justifying anything in it. The only thing we are talking about is the word that your cricket board gave to Pakistan. At least you BD fans show some guts to realize that your board has not fulfilled the promise and Pak fans will support BD just like they always do. That is what i can assure!!!

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

where does bangladesh even stand in rankings ? when did they won a tournament, thay are called minnows in cricket, pak shud not allow it's player to play this minnows league

Posted by MMKH on (January 2, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

PCB should not allow Pakistani players to participate in BPL.

Posted by KarachiKid on (January 2, 2013, 8:40 GMT)

Though BD cricket board mislead PCB, PCB should not force them into touring Pakistan. If they cant, they cant !! PCB should concentrate on holding matches between local teams and try to have grounds filled to capacity for such domestic events. This is the only way to bring international cricket back to Pakistan.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 8:35 GMT)

@Mohammad Hasan Aussies do not have much better advice for bangladesh aswell :)

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 8:12 GMT)

Give n take is an old saying and is an universal truth :) last minute call off means BCB should be prepared for the same and if they are expecting favours from PCB they must see what they have done to them and is it even justified to talk like that.

Posted by faizan_feroz on (January 2, 2013, 8:10 GMT)

@Muhammad Hasan ! boy u cant protect each and every citizen in a population of 18 crores , but protecting a team is no big issue specially after sl attack sum loopholes were observed and mended , as far as security is concerned then u shud have talked to the aus govt only and should not have given ur commitment to the pcb , thats it ,

Posted by zara_khan on (January 2, 2013, 8:06 GMT)

BCB was thinking of players security..only wish it had not prolonged the matter this need to get disheartened always we will ride this tide as well...methinks PCB should send the players to BPL as our players are well loved over there....Pakistan time and again proves its critics wrong....we just need to play exciting cricket...opportunities will knock our door by themselves....Pakistan Zindabad...

Posted by Viraj_Asanka on (January 2, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

I think both PCB & BCB is not negotiating this matter well ,BCB could have easily said no at the very right moment when this tour was proposed..BCB just couldnt behave like a professional still giving false hope to the PCB that they might tour after BPL or later....As a Pakistani residence leaving here i think its still not safe to come here and play cricket..And now to say about the pak players in BPL i think we should send our players to play in BPL..when they are giving our players the chance to play we should not say no to them,many out of form Pak players performed well in BPL-1 an got instant chances in PAK team to play most notably (Shehzad,Jamshed,Sami) we should never make a decision in anger to them coz a true pakistan fan we enjoy BPL..

Posted by MohammadHasan on (January 2, 2013, 7:38 GMT)

To All PAKISTANI Fans--- Please read Australian Government's current advise about visiting Pakistan -------

"We advise you to reconsider your need to travel to Pakistan at this time due to the very high threat of terrorist attack and volatile and unpredictable security situation. Ask yourself whether, given your own personal circumstances, you are comfortable travelling to Pakistan knowing that you may be caught up in a terrorist attack. Ask yourself whether travel could be deferred or an alternative destination chosen. If, having considered these issues, you do decide to travel to Pakistan, you should exercise extreme caution. If you are in Pakistan and concerned for your safety, you should consider leaving if it is safe to do so."

Read it, translate it in URDU then blame BCB if they are right or wrong ?

Posted by Solid_Snake on (January 2, 2013, 7:34 GMT)

Lol whats wrong with you BD fans..We are not blackmailing you.. We invited you..& you agreed..Then came the 'Yes No' drama..Obviously Pak fans would get furious on the lies of BCB..The reason why we are no pursuing any other board is because we Asked Zimbabwe & they refused..End ofstory..We went for other boards too & all refused.Only BCB agreed but all BCB did was trolling all this time.Nobody in Pak wants to see you here..It was only our Chairman's thinking.I'd rather watch an Indian Drama instead of Bangladesh match lol

Posted by salman_ak on (January 2, 2013, 7:30 GMT)

I remember when Bangladeshi supporters threw stones on the West indies players bus, when the Bangladeshi team was all out for 50 odd runs and the match was finished in the wink of an eye. Did that stop any one from visiting Bangladesh NO. So its the international politics with India and Bangladesh combines in an effort to isolate Pakistan in the cricketing world. Every one knows who was responsible for the attack on sirilankan players, it was the Indian Intelligence Agencies. Pakistani Players will not die of hunger if the dont play BPL or even IPL. They are doing fine without it, they are playing in England, Australia, South Africa and Newzeland. I think PCB should concentrate on their domestic cricket rather than the Bangladesh Minnows League. Please Post cricinfo

Posted by saifur.raffael on (January 2, 2013, 7:26 GMT)

@ PAK fans........i dont think pakistan have dat much of financial status at d moment 2 operate a franchise based t20 league i.e. (IPL,BBL,BPL) & d second thing is dat no one will release its plyrs 2 come in ur county 2 play a t20 league right at d forget about PAK's own league for now.......but i hope dat Pakistan can resolve dis problems soon, mayb wid in 4-5 years when a team will hve no hesitation for a series in pak......den we can talk about a league,until den no hope.........

Posted by maskurul on (January 2, 2013, 7:23 GMT)

hello dear audience,it is axiom that Bangladsh cricket board is now passing their purple patch.they have forget all contribution of Pakistan cricket board.they should have think when Bangladesh got their test status then Pakistan played a significance role to get their test status.Pakistan wanted to give 100% security.but Bangladesh denied it rigorously. when this tour was confirmed then they wanted to go to Pakistan but now they are not agree.why bcb cricket board is playing with pakistan cricket board?.now it is manifested from here actually to create authoritative role and to get some facility from Pakistan they wanted to go to pakistan. - Show

Posted by salman_ak on (January 2, 2013, 7:17 GMT)

Everybody knows who was responsible for the attack on Sirilankans in Pakistan, It was Indian Intelligence Agencies. We can clearly see who is trying to isolate Pakistan in the cricketing world. Pakistani players will not die of hunger if they don't participate in BPl. Pakistani players are doing fine without playing in IPL. Their performances are improving all the time in the international arena.Further they are playing leagues in England, Australia and Newzeland. I think Pakistan shall focus on their domestic cricket. Please Post...

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 7:01 GMT)

If you think bd team is too low for you, why do you ask them to visit you in the first place?? You should have gone for a team better then you like india, to whom you never win a match in a tournament. But we did, not just once but few times in Big tournaments. So you have done the first mistake and now you blaming us. Please get a better team to visit your country. We would love to see that. And leave us alone. End of story.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 6:52 GMT)

PCB should concentrate on all important tour of SA in feb 2013. Players will have enough windows to earn money through big bash, IPL, county and if PCB launches its own version of league. Sooner than later PCB will have to devise a strategy for its players so that they can partcipate in leagues, play domestic cricket, get good rest and on top of all be available for international committments. Players must not be allowed to play in every league as it will put extra pressure on their minds and body.

Posted by faizan_feroz on (January 2, 2013, 6:47 GMT)

@bilal cheema its gone 30-0 :D :D i thought a few count less like 25 26 but if that is the case thank you man :P

and for all the bds , see thats what i meant about sponsors and franchises screaming out without pak players :P let the no stars league begin and i am damn sure without pak plays likes of ptv and geo will not show the league costing it much more loss , for all those who think pak t20 era is finished and they r JUST naming afridi, ajmal gul as the top seeds lemme remind them they have seen the likes of nasir nad raza then umar amin hammad r gonna cum sumtym soon and we r dropping a class all rounder in the name of razzaq does bd have a playr like razzaq and does it has the benchstrenth to leave razzaq ?? no

Posted by Bakhtiar_Wain on (January 2, 2013, 6:47 GMT)

I think Pakistan should propose revoking Bangladesh's test status at the next ICC meeting. Should be a big task considering their dismal record.............. allowing pakistan players to participate in BPL should not even be plausible. Its the attitudde of BCB and their Government which is disturbing; somersaults after somersualts on what they commit. No wonder they have failed to improve their cricket abilities; the same indecisiveness in their batting and bowling.....

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 6:40 GMT)

have we stooped so low that we have to ask BD twice to visit PAK? secondly, with a below average class team that BD has, its no fun to waste a single minute on test matches/ODIs.. :)

Posted by wakaPAK on (January 2, 2013, 6:38 GMT)

What if a blast occurs even 5 kilo meters away from the team hotel? I pray for peace in my country; BD has made the right decision and should be respected for that although they could have made this earlier.. We know the terrorist has nothing to do with BD team but they would target BD team because they want to isolate Pakistan and weaken Pakistan; The terrorist masterminds will put all their energies to make this happen so nobody could invest in Pakistan. It's too earlier to invite an international team.

Posted by irfankiani on (January 2, 2013, 6:35 GMT)

I was reading the comments of bangla fans after the statement of BCB president and the statement of most of them is "the revival of cricket in pakistan is not our responsibility". Then how could you expect that making your BPL successful is the responsibility

Posted by SaadRocx on (January 2, 2013, 6:29 GMT)

Pak media should play a strong role here and discourage the sending of players in BML (bangla minnow league)...first asia cup final drama by bangladeshis and then this backstabbing ...c,mon pakistan wake up. show them what we are capable of. cut off the bilateral ties...with these crybabies.....Bleed Green!

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 6:24 GMT)

if pakistan play BPL--it will be for money, nothing else. this is the only resources of income for pak player. as we all know IPL wont take them. so pak player dont have any choice

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 6:21 GMT)

secutity is not main issue , this is issue is only BCCI WISH

Posted by wakaPAK on (January 2, 2013, 6:13 GMT)

I'm a Pakistani and I think my board is out of mind by inviting a team to Pakistan; we are not ready to face another embarrassing situation like the one we faced on Srilankan tour. Though it's a truth, the instability is in North western region and no cricket is supposed to be played there but still I'd advise my board to stop inviting teams. Our players should be allowed to participate in BPL; they should be allowed to earn money because cricket is their profession or they will resort to illegal activities.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 6:09 GMT)

Security concerns are a reality--Pakistan should their players for BPL

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 6:01 GMT)

i love pak-friends & pak-cricket, after bangladesh my favorite team pakistan BUT- "I am not blaming Pakistan, I understand their sentiment but this is not intentional. There is no politics in it. It's the situation that has compelled us not to tour Pakistan at this point of time,"

Posted by SaadRocx on (January 2, 2013, 6:00 GMT)

Plz Zaka Ashraf dont allow even a single player in BPL. (otherwise there will be a strong criticism from pak media ) let thir 420 3rd standard minnow league drown and sink like a pebble.....

Posted by Sharjeel77 on (January 2, 2013, 5:55 GMT)

I believe anyone whoever is striving to get Bangladesh to tour Pakistan or is angry at their refusal to come to Pakistan is just increasing their stature as a cricketing nation. I think it will be better if they don't come. The resources that the government will spend on their security could spent much better elsewhere.

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (January 2, 2013, 5:46 GMT)

@ xoby_khan: U've commented about security of BD. But with such security they've arranged WORLD CUP 2011 with IND, SL who r also unsecured according to u. U told about unsecured situation of other SOUTH ASIAN countries. But no South Asian countries including BD r facing frequent Terrorist attack like Pakistan. In fact already few thousands people were killed there in last few years. I hope u'll also check about security of PAKISTAN 4m this link - Safety and Security - Terrorism & Sectarian Violence: There have been media reports of terrorist threats to Islamabad. As a result of these reported threats we would advise caution and vigilance in all major cities of Pakistan, whilst maintaining a low profile and avoiding large gatherings and crowds.There is a high threat from terrorism and sectarian violence throughout Pakistan. Attacks could be indiscriminate including at places frequently

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 5:42 GMT)

If you're absent during my struggle, don't expect to be present during my success pakistan zinda bad plese dont go in bangla

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 5:42 GMT)

@eagle-pk---my maid is from pakistan too, my driver is pakistani too. does it mean all pakis are doing low class job? plus it has nothing to do with cricket. it shows ur low mentality

Posted by Faarhan on (January 2, 2013, 5:41 GMT)

Well most of Bengali fans now saying and critising Pakistan Cricket Board, Being a Pakistani fan I must say Pakistan should not ask any team to visit and play international matches since the situation is not okay and safety concerns are there. However, i don't understand why BCB crying now if Pakistani players do not want to come and participate in BPL. If they have guts then they should continue with BPL. :-)

Posted by Solid_Snake on (January 2, 2013, 5:36 GMT)

@FarhadHussain->Yes we are selfish..We made a promise & then we backed off..thats selfishness my dear brother..We are not blackmailing BCB..They themselves made a mockery out of this whole scenario.You could have just said a simple 'No'...But you kept on playing & toying with PCB..That's what made us angry.So dont you just come here & tell us what to do & what not to do..First go & make your BCB minds straight.If you dont act professionally,you dont even deserve to play the sports.IF you make a commitment & back off suddenly without any reason,thats really unprofessional.One day your Chief said 'Yes'..& the day next to it your Court came in between.I have never seen any court interfering with the Sports.Lol this shows how great drama queens you are. ps->Well dont come to Pakistan..We dont need you here..You are good at that place where you keep begging BCCI for a tour..They'll never allow you to play there in India..This will show BCB their true place where they belong.

Posted by Criktic on (January 2, 2013, 5:35 GMT)

@Y.Raza Dear I think you are the one who needs to grow up. Do you remember the ODI 4-0 against the same England side? Do you remember how we almost lost the Asia Cup? Have you forgotten T20 World Cup? Besides, I believe PCB should stop begging other teams to visit us and show some pride. Its like we are inviting others to come and humiliate us please.

Posted by Omarrz on (January 2, 2013, 5:31 GMT)

After seeing such hatred comments I don't think BPL or/and Bangali fans deserve star players from Pakistan. Let them enjoy their kindergarden cricket!

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 5:25 GMT)

I am a Pakistani living abroad and have been travelling to Pakistan twice a year. The situation there is pretty bad. To compare the security situation in Pakistan (suicide attacks on armed forces facilities and other assorted bombings/killings - just read the newspaper) with that in Bangladesh (pick-pocketing, robbery, even armed robbery) is silly. Pakistan is not a safe place to be in and the situation there is likely to get worse (a long march on the Capital, Islamabad, is about to start) before (when, nobody knows) it takes a turn for the better.

Just imagine, 20 odd police were kidnapped by the militants and killed and how does the Government react, it frees more high value militants to reach a settelment in Afghanistan!

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 5:21 GMT)

pakistan is always in the news for wrong reason. either betting or spot fixing or drugs or herpes or check fraud or marriage fraud or making stupid comments. last BPL, they try to do betting and match fixing, so BPL will be better off without pak involvement. plus pakistan is an average team.i think ICC should ban pakistan for next 20 years for crime and fraud

Posted by rudmila on (January 2, 2013, 5:17 GMT)

@xoby_khan, The difference between security position of BD and PAK is you have collect/ find data from "Foreign And Common Wealth Office Of Uk" to prove that BD is not safe whereas you can understand the position of pakistan's security by opening your daily newspaper. So.. If pakistani players dont come we have lots of other countries to choose players. But I think they will come, as there is lots of Rupia involved!!

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 5:14 GMT)

Security is must concern pakistan cannot give security guarantee how Bangladeshi players will visit to the pakistan ,,,Without pakistani players BPL will rock,

Posted by criclover_at_cricinfo on (January 2, 2013, 5:14 GMT)

I dont have words to express my frustration when PCB continues to discuss tour with bangladesh, for sure without a doubt it was not because BD team is anywhere near to be a team worth having matches with, they are lucky to have test status, should have been revoked long time back. If PCB wants to invite teams just for revival of cricket in Pakistan, lets call Kenya, or even associate cricketing nations like scotland, ireland etc, for heavens sake stop all relations, support towards BD, they have shown time and again how that nation stabs you in back. And Pakistan should never allow any player (not just top ones) to participate in their T20 league, dont forget those franchises couldnt pay players for considerable time period. BD is heavily influenced by Indian board as well. Lets stop all discussions with BD, its ruining Pakistan's image.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 5:13 GMT)

and the drama continues.. lol half of the players in the bpl were

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 5:07 GMT)

Pakistanies are really funny. They dont know what is friendship and they are behaving just like school boys. Just before the day of declaration of BCB, Bangladesh was their brother. Within a second, they are asking to take away the test and ODI status of Bangladesh!!! Pakis are just selfish and mean minded, which is once again displayed by the PCB head and the Paki fans. They want to blackmail BD. Why dont you blackmail other countires like Aus, India, SA, Srilanka, NZ???

Posted by eagle-pk on (January 2, 2013, 5:07 GMT)

i really wonder, that Pak economics sucks these days but u still can easily find a bunch of bengalies around every corner of Pakistan, every 2nd home has a bengali cook, every 10 yard a bengali has a soup cart , every 11 yard a bengali owns a pan Khoka here in Pakistan, millions of bengalies are living already here in Pakistan, Bengalies are banned in Saudi Arabia due their crimes, and here they seek security ? security is on risk im personaly not in favor that we can handle the International Cricket , but as some one mention earlier that in South Asia, like India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bengladesh its not much different among these countries,anyway most of ppl do not enjoy Ban vs Pak series, PCB should leave BCB and focuse to enhance players performance for now , and forget International Cricket here in Pakistan, conditions are not good for now.

Posted by CricketFan365 on (January 2, 2013, 4:51 GMT)

If Bangladesh visit Pakistan, do you guys think other countries will be convinced to come? Never. Can you guaranty Sri Lankan incident won't be repeated? If Pakistan again fail to protect International players, they won't see international matches for decades. Are you willing to take that risk? Be careful for what you wish for. Bangladesh have waited for the betterment of Pakistan's security issues, but it has not changed much; still bombing occurs, people are getting killed. Remember, cricket is just a game.

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 4:49 GMT)

when pak fan will stop crying to bring bd team in their own ground.if possible bring aussie or english team--lets see if u can do that.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 4:38 GMT)

@riverbaby11....thanks a lot for the support...lets hope tomorrow's Ind-Pak match turns out to be another intensely contested one... best of luck!!! (from Pak)

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 4:34 GMT)

bangladesh is the nation which dont have minds. simple. They cant be a better team ever. Always begged for a vote from Pakistan. from a security concern bangladesh is also not a good country to play as in news.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 4:33 GMT)

In the current mess created by BCB, if PCB allows Pakistani players to play in BCL, Pakistanis will never forgive it

Posted by zeshanmalik on (January 2, 2013, 4:29 GMT)

it was chidesh decision by bcb that they refused to tour to pakistan-bcb was nothing but now it's some thing just bcz of pcb they heartly support them to give test team ,but now they palying us just with talking,now we don't need let them come in pakistan

Posted by myfaridbd on (January 2, 2013, 4:23 GMT)

Pakistan is not capable to protect their VIP's,VVIP's even their own Army!!! everyday people are dying like dog in Pakistan. so how they will protect our most valuable players? 16 billion Bangladeshi wont allow our player to visit Pakistan at any cost. if they are not willing to play BPL we dont bother

Posted by xoby_khan on (January 2, 2013, 4:16 GMT)

@ ALL BANGALIS, Who Is Critisizing Pakistan That, Its Not Safe, Does B'desh Is Safe Place..?? Lets See, How Safe Is Your Bangla.. According To Foreign And Common Wealth Office Of Uk, B'desh Is Not SAFE..!!

Safety and Security - Terrorism

There is a general threat from terrorism. Attacks cannot be ruled out and could be indiscriminate, including in places frequented by expatriates and foreign travellers. British nationals should exercise caution.

Safety and Security - Crime

Armed robbery, pick pocketing, and purse snatching are common to Bangladesh. It is not unknown for resident Westerners, familiar with local conditions in Gulshan and Banani, to be the victims of armed robbery. Therefore it is advised that you do not carry a large amount of money with you or wear jewellery in the street. Thieves often work in pairs on motorcycles or 3-wheeled motorised rickshaws.


Posted by Syed-Ali-Shamshad on (January 2, 2013, 4:13 GMT)

@ riverbaby11....

Well Said... We appreciate your neutral comments.

Regards, Ali

Posted by ProdigyA on (January 2, 2013, 4:10 GMT)

@riverbaby - u can say that is ur opinion but not Indian as any person who is in touch with reality will not travel to pak, be it BD or Aus. Human life is more important than anything else.

Posted by MZEEM on (January 2, 2013, 3:58 GMT)

Pakistan should not allow the players to go to Bangladesh. PBC must teach a lesson to BCB for their flip flop promices. They are not trustworthy.

Posted by getsetgopk on (January 2, 2013, 3:53 GMT)

Admit it, BPL is a reflection of BD cricket, they have a shambles of a cricket team, they have been playing ODI for the past 36 years and Test cricket for the past 13 years and the net result is that BPL will be in "Chaos" if PCB pulled out its players. BD will never be a good cricketing nation, same like the Indians. But since there is a market and their fans wont miss any oppurtunity to scream their lungs out on every four and six hit in some T20 circus, BCB will do everything to bring players from overseas to feed the Bangla fans. Why was Hasan diplomatic in his stance I wonder? Why not go straight like ZAKA by saying 'we'll bring a better team than BD'? We have no cricket in Pak and things dont look good but man we can straight talk unlike these Bangladeshis. Two faced diplomats. Pak is the only elite nation whos players were allowed in BPL and now it wont even cut the cost of hosting, franchises will go bust, pack it up and go home boys! this party is coming to an early end.

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 3:49 GMT)

today's news: 7 charity workers shot dead. last month alone 1000 people killed, next one month who knows how many? its sin to think even arranging cricket match in pakistan. even after SL incident, pakistan didnt learn lesson. pak fans seems irrational

Posted by TheBlackMonk on (January 2, 2013, 3:37 GMT)

Saw the twitter status of Time Personality Miss. Malala stating how gutted she's as BD cancelled tour in PK, believe it or not, even after taking a bullet in her head or could be concussion talk! Also, in a talk show, a BD architect told he pulled out his whole delegates in before an international conference held in Pakistan however he and couple of others visited there as committed. Later, he was toured in the house of governor of Punjab and the governor informed him he doesn't stay there because he doesn't feel secure in there while he was also gutted on the architect when he came to know that he didn't bring his full team in PK. And guess what, the governor actually died in the very next week by his own bodyguard!

Posted by azirqusa on (January 2, 2013, 3:36 GMT)

Dear Young PK Fans: You Would Understand the Public Sentiment of Bangladeshi Better .. IF .. You Read Their Struggle and sufferings in 1971. They Are Tigers; They are Most Tolerant but at the same time Just Avoiding Avoidable Risks.

Posted by BowledYa on (January 2, 2013, 3:34 GMT)

@riverbaby11. Couldn't agree with you more. You said it perfectly. Thanks from a Pak fan.

Posted by pjbarua on (January 2, 2013, 3:31 GMT)

BCB should arrange another auction to avail some extra options for the teams. Nothing stops for anybody.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 3:26 GMT)

Folks intresting fact Squads

Barisal Burners: Sunil Narine, Brad Hodge, Phil Mustard, Kabir Ali,

Sylhet Royals: Tino Best, Andre Russell, Dwayne Smith, Hamilton Masakadza, Paul Stirling

Duronto Rajshahi: Marlon Samuels, Alex Hales, Sean Ervine

Rangpur Riders: Fidel Edwards, Kevin O'Brien

Dhaka Gladiators: Luke Wright, Owais Shah, Tillakaratne Dilshan, Lasith Malinga, Joshua Cobb, Chris Liddle, Darren Stevens, Kaushal Lokuarachchi

Khulna Royal Bengal: Riki Wessels, Shane Harwood

Chittagong Kings: Dwayne Bravo, Ravi Bopara, Ryan Ten Doeschate, Jacob Oram, Jason Roy, Kevon Cooper, Brendon Taylor

Only 2 teams will have four international players playing every game. Beat that.

Posted by rafid_ahad on (January 2, 2013, 3:15 GMT)

Its mr Mostofa kamal who is responsible for the current situaton.He is the one to blame for a BD fan i feel sorry for for my Pakistani brothers.if the security condition improves in Pakistan it will be a great to watch bd-pak series.

Posted by riverbaby11 on (January 2, 2013, 3:10 GMT)

Indian Opinion - Pakistan is in trouble when they know the only profitable tour for them is playing in India. Bangladesh fans and board are stupid if they think they can afford to pass up a chance play with a proper test team like pakistan...stop acting like you are from Australia and go play cricket..this is South Asia is not our strength..Indian Pak Srilanka or Bangladesh :-)

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 2:54 GMT)

Guys, hold on a moment. My question to a Pakistani fan: "what if you were a Bangladeshi?" To a Bangladeshi fan: "what if you were a Pakistani?" The answer is: all the comments bellow would remain the same, only the 'Posted by' field would be changed.

So please stop blaming each other and think logically.

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (January 2, 2013, 2:41 GMT)

ExtremeSpeed: Indeed a good choice of name. Dreams are free and you are entitled to have one! It is disappointing that you claim that PCB does not support B'desh cricket. B'desh was no body of cricket when Pakistani players like Wasim Akram played in Dhaka League. No, there was no financial incentive for those players either. Wasim actually had a contract with Lancashire at that time. It is correct that eight vores were casted for B'desh test status, however, PCB chairman of that time Arif Abbasi played a vital role ensuring that Asian block votes for B'desh. In all honesty,B'desh was granted a premature test status. You ask about support...How many times have you been invited to India for a tour. Go ask BCCI for Indian players in BPL.WiseShah: You are right, thounsands die in Pakistan because of terrorism. It is because Pak unlike B'desh can not hide behind its location. Pak's northern area are unsafe,but Lahore and Karachi are no more/less safer than Dhaka! Ask Sanath Jaysuriya!

Posted by drnaveed on (January 2, 2013, 2:39 GMT)

mr nazmul hassan , how could you say so ? .when it was your turn to decide , you back fired, now when it is PCB's turn, your are again trying to become smart. you deserve 'tit for tat' ATTITUDE. now , with the absence of our players from BPL , lets see how it goes this time.perhaps, the bigger brother will support you this time, ......if not the smaller one .......................

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 2:37 GMT)

@ Quddus Mamu: Pakistani players do have an experience of ICL so they know with contract or with out contract if PCB do not allow to participate majority of them will not participate as Ultimately the doors for playing for Pakistan may shut on their future. As for this issue I said it earlier BD is not worthy of an opponent to team Pakistan they are not a crowd puller side at all. So better leave the thought for BD for good & move on to build stronger Pakistan team & improve on their rankings international sides will automatically be inclined to play with us at our grounds. Had there not been a security scare Pakistan would have never gone after BD to play since objective here is not anticipating a challenging series but to show international sides that we can host International games on our grounds. PCB should teach them a lesson they have ditched us many of the times recently.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 2:32 GMT)

Both BD & Pak fans, please hold your horses & stop throwing stones to each other. From BD (only) Mr Mostafa Kamal and from Pak Talebans are responsible for creating this mess. Neither players nor the general peoples of both countries are responsible for this mess. BCCI don't send players to BPL & don't invite BD in India and don't take Pak players in IPL. So, we (both BD & Pak) are in trouble and cornered. So, better not to fight among ourselves. Problem will not be solved unless BCB will be free of nasty politicians & Pak will be comparatively safe.

Posted by lukecannon on (January 2, 2013, 2:28 GMT)

BPL shouldn't have started in the first place.... Even in SLPL foreign players were payed off during the given time .If a bankrupt SLC can manage that why cant the BCB put up a better show.. If you ask me BPL is a complete waste time.The only plus they have is Gayle.. I'd watch the matches where Gayle takes part... That's about it.No other pluses in this hapless tournament.

Posted by BowledYa on (January 2, 2013, 2:23 GMT)

PCB should not rearrange the Pakistan domestic cricket to accommodate BPL if BCB does not support the Pak tour. It's as simple as that. There are terrorist attacks in India too, but does not stop teams from touring. No one is saying Bangladesh should tour without security. They knew the situation when they first agreed to the tour. Stop playing politics!

Posted by BowledYa on (January 2, 2013, 2:20 GMT)

@ ExtremeSpeed. Very appropriate name chosen. Bangladesh will win all their series in 2013. Hmmm...nough said.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 1:46 GMT)

As a Bangladeshi the only thing that hurts me is not keeping the words. Yes, I don't feel it safe to tour Pakistan at this moment, but why didn't BCB made this decision clear at the first place? Why toying with the sentiment of the people of an entire country once and again when they badly need help?

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 1:26 GMT)

I am with PCB..all Pakistani Cricket Player..current or Ex- Should not go for B-Dash BPL... it's not Players or BCB -- it's bangladesh's Prime Minister....becuase the day pakistan Team won from B-Dash Asian cup she told news channel Pakistani ISI for them to loose the other words she was saying her players are not honest with the counrty...

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 1:13 GMT)

question to PCB and pak fan: how many people died in pakistan due to terrorism. u shouldnt even think about organizing any sports in pakistan in next 100 years

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 1:09 GMT)

why should bangladesh team visit to pakistan.its not possible.bcoz of everybody knows that now pakistan situation is not good.yesterday i got new from newspaper that 7 people killed in north-west in pakistan.not only yesterday but its happening each and um appreciate BCB for their right decision.on the other hand pakistani player are sold in no way to cancel it

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 0:52 GMT)

PCB should take the "high road" and allow the few Pakistani cricketers under contract to play in BD. By the Grace of Allah, such "big hearted" gestures usually get rewarded in one form or another.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 0:46 GMT)

Its all politics I remember how KZ( Left the stadium in disgust when Pak wont he asia cup.What a sore losser. I am for a complete pull out from the BPL.

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 0:45 GMT)

I hope PCB doesn't allow Pakistani Players to participate - Show BCB a lesson !!! they used Pakistan for their own good !

Posted by wiseshah on (January 2, 2013, 0:35 GMT)

i wonder if pakistani players have any other option. IPL wont take them, BBL take only few. so BD is their only hope. if they are not allowed to play in BPL, they will participate in match fixing, spot fixing, or check fraud like ijaj ahmed

Posted by justanotherfan13 on (January 2, 2013, 0:19 GMT)

C'mon guys admit the fact that Pakistan is not a safe place to visit. cricket can not be bigger than life. BPL needs Pakistani stars, Pakistani players need extra income from cricket rather than depending on bookies.

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (January 2, 2013, 0:03 GMT)

No offence Pakistan but we don't care what you think of our Cricket or our domestic tournaments, the fact is i.e. BPL no matter how small it is helps our board financially and gives our locals tremendous amount of confidence and achieve all sorts of skills. The other teams including Pakistan and its top officials still think Bangladesh are the whipping dogs of Cricket well first THRASH us something a lot of you have failed to do against a minnow team so either your team is declining or our team is have improved. Its an open secret well known for us Bangla fans no Cricket team including Pakistan actually supports Bangladesh Cricket but it doesn't matter as long as our interest for Cricket and huge support is there nothing can stop us.

This new year 2013 is the year where Bangladesh can 'officially' remove that 'minnow' tag and win all our series so we can finally keep our critics quiet and have the last laugh so good luck haters peace!

Posted by   on (January 2, 2013, 0:02 GMT)

Safety first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What Pakistani players? Only one player of Pak team is in any batting ranking, which is Younus Khan ( No 10 in Test). Paki team is nothing, if it is not for their bowlers. Cash is the king. Let those players stay at Paki and suck on their thumb. Pakis can't even provide security for their own security officials. How dare they ask any team to go their? This country is full of people, who want to kill others. Never go there, even if they are the God of cricket.

Posted by Drop_Thunder on (January 2, 2013, 0:02 GMT)

Damn, this decision must have hurt PAK fans pretty bad as is apparent looking at the hateful comments.

Posted by AzAb12754 on (January 1, 2013, 23:52 GMT)

Pakistan fans should be happy!, they have got their wish and don't have to face a 'minnow' team so I don't understand the complaints even though Bangladesh does so much to support Pakistan Cricket. I personally prefer yes for Bangladesh to tour Pakistan for this short tour and help Pakistan regain Cricket back but what can you do when we have unsuitable people running Cricket boards and go for their self own interest.

About quality of both teams, yes Pakistan are 10x better than Bangladesh Cricket and that includes your rich cricketing history and has a wider pool of talent compared to us but the point is Bangladesh Cricket has improved and is continuing to improve even further so lets just admit that. Test Cricket will still be a problem for Bangladesh Cricket and we will struggle to beat Pakistan in that format still for a long while yet but in limited overs, we almost can be a match for anyone now.

Posted by Navarene03 on (January 1, 2013, 23:44 GMT)

Any single Pakistani player, who are sold in BPL franchise teams, coming to play to BD despite PCB chief's threat should be considered as GADDAR (betrayer).

Whisper: Abdur Razzaq of Pakistan is now in BD soil to join his franchise team Duranta Rajshahi... tsk tsk stk ;) :p

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 23:14 GMT)

i would like to all owner of BPL team , please look other countrys star cricketer who got standard for playing in BPL , if u guys buy more players from one country u people will suffer in future . buy 5 to 10 players from one country not 27 ? than u don,t have bother if someone want make blackmail us . PAKISTHANI people please make ur country free from bombing than we will fill our promise , we can't let our players die ? u guys used to say that BD AND PAK brothers now when we said its right time to go but we will than u guys saying that we r worst than INDIA in relationship

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (January 1, 2013, 23:11 GMT)

All these statements from BCB are a damage recovery action. Damage has already been done. It is laughable to claim that two boards still have a relationship. Bangladeshi board has insulted Pakistani fans and Pakistani counterparts. Pakistani board chairman confidently kept claiming that BCB has agreed to tour but obviously there was no/very little communication between two boards and despite a written comittment, BCB has refused the tour. Now the whole tour issue is a moot point as Pakistan was going to gain very little from this tour anyway.Quddu Mamu> Players like Abdul Razzaq know that Pakistan's general public will see any player who plays in BPL negatively so be rest assured those players will never sacrifice their international careers. Remember ICL? Another problem in B'desh is security of Pakistani players.West Indies cricket team was attacked in B'desh and UK Foreign office travel advice declares B'desh as an unsafe place for foreigners so I am afraid, same logic should apply!

Posted by burnt_cow on (January 1, 2013, 23:06 GMT)

Very funny looking attitude by paki fans. BPL is the only money making option(of course legal !!) for your players . You can only expect Afghanistan team to visit your country.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 22:59 GMT)

i would like to tell pakistani people if PCB dont send players in BPL than IT wont be lose star value. BPL such a turnament where we produce star . look at imran nazeer . abdul razzaq , nasir jamshed . sami , ahmed sehzad this all players was out of form and when they played first edettion of BPL AND they perform got chance play for pakistan again . we can buy other players from remainig unsold list of BPL auction.we will produce star

Posted by justanotherfan13 on (January 1, 2013, 22:17 GMT)

PCB should send their players to play BPL on their own sake. Pak players are not allowed to play in IPL. Players like Salman Butt, Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Asif need extra money PCB cant provide. Denying BPL is a risky business for PCB. Pak players will always look for other source of income.

Posted by asporag on (January 1, 2013, 22:15 GMT)

What a joke paki supporters can do. While Bangladesh has already showed you clearly that they don't play you that means they don't care u at all. its pakistan who crying to play with Bangladesh not them.

Be grow up u pakistani nation and remember BPL don't need ur player as they already told that ur players are not mandatory for them, without u BPL will be better off. so try somewhere else to send them such as china, Maldives, bhutan or of luck kids !!!!!!!!!

Posted by ahmednaveed on (January 1, 2013, 22:12 GMT)

PCB needs to start Pakistan Premier League , Players from whole world will come ,this is all mater of Money , Ignore BD and stop Pakistani players to participate their league , The country who don't respect Pak , we don't need them to come and play in our land .

Posted by EnglishCricket on (January 1, 2013, 22:08 GMT)

Old news! pointless matches as we all know what the outcome is going to be. Both Pakistan and Bangladesh fans need to grow up and move on, its not like your teams are better to the mighty England Cricket team. Pakistan and Bangladesh can combine their team but our team will still beat them blinfolded :P

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 22:04 GMT)

PCB should take the "high road" and ensure its domestic league does not conflict with BPL's and allow Pakistani players to participate in the BPL. Allah always rewards such noble actions one way or another.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 22:03 GMT)

Zimbabwe & Bangladesh doesn't deserve the test status...

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 21:57 GMT)

NO way. BCB Not again. keep ur BPL. we dont need that poor cricket league. very soon we will start our own PPL which will not invit any Bengali playsers. i think they should be ban from cricket in pakistan. the minnows r not crowd pullers like india/pakistan. so stay home play ur bpl.

Posted by ShamasImran on (January 1, 2013, 21:53 GMT)

Enough is enough no one should go to play BPL, In the near future time will come when BD will be looking to save its test Status (Insha-Allah) and PCB should vote against their test status. look at the following;id=25;type=team

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 21:44 GMT)

If pakistani players do not participate in the BPL,then the BPL teams will be like club cricket and nobody will sponser them. they will lose a lot of money. also nobody would like to watch club cricket

Posted by dontlikecricket on (January 1, 2013, 21:33 GMT)

Can't beieve Pak and BD fans are still arguing about this cancellation issue. I dont agree Pak playing BD in the first place, i's just waste of time. BD test standard is on par with Pak domestic First class. This is despite that there has not been international cricket for a long time. I have said it many years ago that ICC should revoke BD test staus. their record is shocking for a team who has been playing test for quite few number of years. It is just beyond a joke!!

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 21:29 GMT)

Well bcb asked for it didnt they? Dnt say a word till the last day pcb nd let them areange everything like pakistan did nd then pull players off like they backed off. This is the best time to teach them a lesson nd to give the taste of their own medicine.

Posted by bdsmaruf on (January 1, 2013, 21:25 GMT)

bcb's decision is right. security of pakistan is not well enough.everyday at least 10 people are killed. bpl should not depend on any specific country's player. bcb should look for others and i believe they will find. nothing will be left without someone. go bpl go..............

Posted by Guduji71 on (January 1, 2013, 21:22 GMT)

Pasistan has always supported Bangladesh at every stage. We always treate them as brother but they have never shown the sign of support. Now this was the time that BD should have shown support and they have lost the opportunity. Remember, BD will be the next and you will be in worst position than Pakistan and then don't expect us to support you. Pakitani players are in demand in Australia & England and I think they should concentrate on that. What would Pakistani playes learn by playing with BD club level players whereas, they will have opportunity to play against good standard cricket in England and Australia and we all know in monetary terms where they (Pakis) would be bette off in BD or Eng/Aust.

Posted by ak_dragon on (January 1, 2013, 21:20 GMT)

PCB should strict action & teach them a lesson. If you don't feel secure touring Pakistan fair-enough, but now be ready to resistant from PCB as well.. Well done Mr.Zaka !

Posted by Murtaza_79 on (January 1, 2013, 21:09 GMT)

Dear Friends, as long as i see, this is only loss to Bangladeshi cricket. How many times does Bangladeshi team get chance to play against qulaity teams like Pakistan. All big teams are reluctant to play against Bangladesh. Nnow denying to play against Pakistan, Bangladesh has lost a very good chance. I dont see any loss for Paksitan Cricket or players here. I am very much hopeful that Srilankan team will soon visit Pakistan.

Posted by alvin28 on (January 1, 2013, 20:47 GMT)

well i guess pakistan have world class players and this bangladesh cricket or bpl is waste of time Actually bangla cricket need help of world class players of pakistan not pak need them there is no doubt pakistan is full of talent and have some sore losers neighbours keep it pakistan big boys lots of respect from USA

Posted by Quddus-Mamu on (January 1, 2013, 20:45 GMT)

As far as I know, out of 57 Pakistani players who were sold in BPL, only 4 of them are under contact with PCB. So, I don't think, PCB can stop other 53 players to participate in BPL. Abdul Razzak is already on the way to fly Bangladesh.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 20:29 GMT)

no way BPL will survive without Pakistani players, its worthless to watch mediocre cricket, since not many quality players play in BPL other than Pakistanis.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 20:26 GMT)

@Nazmus Shakir Akib You should not worry about pak cricketers because they are already in demand in australian and english domestic leagues , which i think is way better than playing aginst a bunch of domestic bangali cricketers, who can hardly hold a bat. Sorry, but i had to say this after reading your comment because you are giving us an impression that pak cricketers are dependant on Bpl to earn money !

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 20:24 GMT)

@Kashif Muhammad, they are not brothers any more. Its time to treat them just like an opponent. No more favor and PCB should not allow a single player to play in BPL. Exclusion of 50 players will certainly teach them lesson and value of commitment.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 20:14 GMT)

BPL will run without Pakistani cricketers.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 20:00 GMT)

Let NOT the Pakistani players come and play in BPL... Let NOT their players earn money... Whose loss??? POOR Pakistan... NO money, NO cricket, NO LIGHT ONLY TUNNEL... :/

Posted by shiraz210 on (January 1, 2013, 20:00 GMT)

BD only making fun nothing else. Mr Zaka should stop our players for BPL. every1 knows the worth of our players specially in T20.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

I feel there is no point of fight between Paki and Bagla Fans... Both should hold down their horses. Bangla guys are right that Pakistan is going through bad security phase and there is no doubt at all (I, myself, live in Pakistan). On the other side, Paki fans are also right that Bangla Board did commitments, 2 times, to send its team Unconditionally, and for that Pakistan board also gave favors to Bangla Board. Now considering the current scenario, what i would suggest to Pakistan board is that, it should withdraw its player from BPL. I feel Respect is much more important than money. If you have good players then you can earn money but by money you can't buy respect. and for Bangla friends...there is no hatred for you... its just matter of commitment. You are our brothers but once you decided something then you should hold your ground else dont do that kind of promise. I agree that you have right to change your decided due to current situation but same is applicable for us.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

The PCB should not allow any Pakistani player,centrally contracted or otherwise,to participate in the BPL.The Bangladeshi contingent that visited Pakistan a few weeks ago closely scrutinized the security plan approved by PCB.All the international venues were given all clear although only the Gaddafi stadium in Lahore was scheduled to host the 2 games.This sudden refusal is very hard to fathom.While the PCB should maintain cordial relations with all ICC members,trusting Bangladesh has once again cost Pakistan.PCB should instead focus on arranging a home series with India in August.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 19:56 GMT)

i can bet here.. to all Bangladeshi cricket fans that even a GALI (STREET) team of Rawalpindi can beat the Bangladeshi team on any ground on any given day.. as i remember Bangla only won 2 test matches in the history one from Kenya and One from WI when no major player was in the WI team,, i think Pak should start a movement to dethrone Bangladesh from full ICC member and Test status holder

Posted by aslamPK on (January 1, 2013, 19:52 GMT)

Enough is enough, PCB must not allow Pakistani players to play in BPL simply........................

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 19:36 GMT)

Pakistan should banned its player from playing all T20 leagues ..... Esp BPL because they havent kept their words of visting Pakistan

Posted by asu4ever on (January 1, 2013, 19:34 GMT)

@Ehtesham....Pak U19 team already beaten by Bd U19 team in last world cup U19...U should think before making any comment...think about ur cricket team future.....

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 19:31 GMT)

Being a cricket lover..... i am in favor of bilateral negotiations among different cricket boards... But in this particular case, i feel that there is some politics involved. A suggestion for PCB.... if BCB is not willing to allow his team for Pak tour, they should not ask again n again.... Let them decide, Pak Team is playing different tournaments, its enough for me.... Hope some day, teams from around the world will visit Pak by their own.

Posted by rahikhan on (January 1, 2013, 19:25 GMT)

My pak friends, lets not think Bangladesh T20 future, they will keep playing.ques is tht when pakistan is going to play at their home ground? Who will be deprived without playing in BPL?

Posted by shizam on (January 1, 2013, 19:24 GMT)

I think it is time to separate the boys from men. Bangladesh does not belong in the same group as Pakistan, India, Australia, England, WI and NZ. Bangladesh belong with Afghanistan, Zimbabwe and Canada. Based on Bangladesh's poor performance and low ranking, ICC should take the test status away from BD and demote them to an Associate member team. Any club cricket team in Pakistan can easily beat Bangladesh in any format.

Posted by ABRAR-JANJUA on (January 1, 2013, 19:21 GMT)

@Warm_Coffee Bangladesh Cricket must thankful to Pakistan as they are Playing international Cricket. Any how you must be worry about your own team's Future. I don't know in which world you are living as you are saying that's all in the past, 13 win less years are not enough and still it is going on and on...................................& on.....

Posted by Quddus-Mamu on (January 1, 2013, 19:16 GMT)

If anybody ever wants to visit to Pakistan, that would be "Bangladesh". But this is not the right time to go. We all know what is happening in Pakistan, even Pakistani armies are not safe in Pakistan at this moment. Anyway, if PCB don't allow Pakistani players to play BPL, then who is going to lose money? They are already missing huge mone from IPL, at least PCB should give them a chance to make some money from BPL.

Posted by samdanish on (January 1, 2013, 19:11 GMT)

PCB should simply,, kick the out,, not a single player must be allowed.

Posted by boxer44 on (January 1, 2013, 19:10 GMT)

I really dont understand the fuss about 4 or 5 good players from PAK. Give some young BD players an opportunity, there are other talent in cricket that isnt busy. Get some talent that has been over looked by their boards(Jerome Taylor of Jamaica, comes to mind) these guys would be cheaper and work harder than the high priced stars.

Posted by Sharbigma on (January 1, 2013, 19:04 GMT)

Mr warm coffee, Bangladesh is lucky the icc let's them play the world t20. They are so poor compared to he other teams, perhaps by the next world event Bangladesh will not be playing international t20 at all, hahhaaaa.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 19:03 GMT)

Bangladesh cricket would be finished by not fulfilling commitment , anybody who knows cricket must see how much test cricket they would be playing in future. If the keep walking away from commitments they would be left alone.....

Posted by abdulbasitktk on (January 1, 2013, 18:50 GMT)

now its pcb's turn to hold the bcb about the availabilty of pak players in bpl.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (January 1, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

My warm coffee tells me that inshaallah Bangladesh will win the next World T20 tournament which will be held in Bangladesh beating Pakistan in the final by 5 wickets in the chase mark my words.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 18:31 GMT)

Amazing wherever you go Cricinfo, Facebook, Forums, Twitter etc most Pakistan fans are dead angry and upset what Bangladesh have done guys blame the people that run Bangladesh Cricket not our team or fans have done nothing wrong relating to this tour. We are giving your Pakistan players an opportunity to play in DPL and BPL, that's how much we love Pakistani players just chill x

Posted by ArifIslam10 on (January 1, 2013, 18:31 GMT)

Abdul Razzak of Pak team is in Bangladesh now to meet his franchise team Duranta Rajshahi. I hope all Paki players are joining in 2nd BPL. It is the matter of bread and butter for Paki players.

Posted by Y.Raza on (January 1, 2013, 18:30 GMT)

@ Criktic: grow up dude. You might not have seen pakistan's test record in 2012. Remember england 3 - 0 loss to pakistan? remember asia cup?

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 18:28 GMT)

@The_Mystery_Ball thnx bro bt nevr expected such an unethical behavior from the fans of GENTLEMEN"S GAME :) ... they just need to grow up

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

hahaaaaaaa ... Enjoy BCB now... one thing more (seriously): "I am not blaming Bangladesh, I understand their sentiment but this is not intentional. There is no politics in it. It's the situation that has compelled us not to allow our players to go to Bangladesh at this point of time. we can only decide last time" by me. haaahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted by ArifIslam10 on (January 1, 2013, 18:25 GMT)

BCB did not break any commitment to PCB. It is just a postpone of the tour due significant security reason. So calm down Paki frndz. You know that "Grapes are Always Sour" to the losers....

Posted by jaffers1 on (January 1, 2013, 18:19 GMT)

@Crictic, You definitely is a Bangladeshi otherwise who would use that kind of words for Pakistani players. No need to mention they have won where and when and against whom. Don't pretend. It is visible.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 18:15 GMT)

@Warm_Coffee ur coffee needs a bit of magic sip that can make BD players punch above their weight ... m not saying this !!!! history and the records say this !!!! and btw nobdy in Pak wants u to blv us .. nobody cares for minnows really !!!! once we'll c sm promise by BD team in future then v'l talk abt competency ... as of knw BD team is known as the only test team which does not deserve a test status !!!! :) there is no if and but in cricket... there is a winner and a loser and as per cricinfo, last 30 times the winner in Pak vs BD matches has been Pakistan .... enjoy the coffee

Posted by Mosib on (January 1, 2013, 18:13 GMT)

As a Pakistani, the decision is certainly disappointing by BCB. Security concerns are everywhere in the world.West Indian cricket team's bus was pelted with stones in BD, after BD team lost the match. Now that is certainly great concern for pakistanis to send our legends for BPL. Beside all the politics and blame games, In the hour of need, BD cricket team and the people dint stand with us. We will certainly return the favor by defeating BD cricket team in every encounter in cricket field, and you know we are certainly capable of doing that, and we will insha Allah!

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 18:08 GMT)

All the Pakistani fans, as a well wisher I can understand your frustration. This could have been an opening for Pakistan to other countries, and I also think security will not be an issue here as BD players will get highest possible security, for sure, but the problem is BD cricket board did not anticipated the growing criticism they would face from the local public when they agreed initially. Press were very critical and some people even threatened to attack BCB board members if anything happens to the cricketers.

Reason for this growing criticism is difficult to understand. at the moment somehow our people are starting to believe that we are getting used here as a guinea pigs. This is a strange but common phenomena in our subcontinent. Can you really explain why India did not play with Pakistan for a long time? So, don't be critical of BCB just because they made a commitment?

Posted by The_Mystery_Ball on (January 1, 2013, 18:08 GMT)

@TheRisingTeam Yup Australia is definately a big team there record speaks volumes, besides that I think you need to brush up on your BBL history, PCB only allowed a handful of its players to participate in the on going season of the BBL that too for a very very short period of time (Ajmal played only 1 match for the Adelaide Strikers) because it wanted its players to gear up for the Indian tour. So being a bigger team does not make it a compulsion for Pakistan players to participate, national duty comes first before personal gains. @ Billal Cheema dude get a cricinfo account. No inbox no worries ;)

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 18:05 GMT)

@Warm-cofee facebook has inboxes bro :)

Posted by Criktic on (January 1, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

I am Paki and I totally understand BCB's concern. Its funny how we invite teams from other countries and expect them to risk their safety. Besides, our players only play for money, not for the pride so its should not matter where in the world they play. Does anyone remember the incident that happened to Sri Lankan team? And I also request other Paki fans here to calm down and try to analysis the situation. The safety of players in more important than our fun. Besides who is interested in such series when our players keep loosing the real tournaments.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (January 1, 2013, 17:59 GMT)

@ABRAR-JANJUA: Yeah but that's all in the past, us Bangladeshi's are all about the present and future and that's what really counts but you know what I am talking about soon feel sorry for the future of Pakistan Cricket good luck! :)

Posted by Moin13 on (January 1, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

it was a great decision by BCB not to tour in Pakistan. BD players just started to play good cricket so we dont want to throw them on life risk. About BPL its good if pakistan players come to play BPL otherwise its their lose. BPL still gonna rock & roll without them.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (January 1, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

@Bilal Cheema: Yeah sure! Cricinfo don't have inboxes but I don't believe you and you know it :)

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (January 1, 2013, 17:56 GMT)

@Muhammad Rana: I think you need to WAKE UP!! mate because according to Cricinfo, its not 11-2 to Pakistan under-19 no need to lie not surprised the future is clear. Mentally India? what kind of excuse is that? :D

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (January 1, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

@Muhammad Rana:- Why you are lying for? at under-19 level, Bangladesh and Pakistan have met 11 times with Bangladesh leading 6-5 its on Cricinfo records go and check typical and stop with these silly excuses because Pakistan lost to India :)

Posted by ABRAR-JANJUA on (January 1, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

@ asu4ever What about Bangladesh Record against Pakistan in All Formats? Do you Remember how many Matches they have won from Pakistan and BTW when did they won last time...LOLZZ (for your kind information they won that match in1999 Wc and in the very next match Pakistan Made world Record against them and beat them by 233 Runs).

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:42 GMT)

I think BCB want to tour Pakistan but the ICC is not given permission to visit Pakistan, therefore, both boards are very intense about this situation, however, Bangladesh is our Country, we Pakistan always be with him, and PCB should allow players to go and play BPL, because we always supported BD cricket before when they got test status because of Pakistan contribution but they never reply us nicely although at this time when our cricket is in critical situation they have denied to play, whereas, the srilankan board said that they could play Pakistan on this year after JULY.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (January 1, 2013, 17:41 GMT)

No offence Pakistan but most of you guys said before all this news that its pointless hosting Bangladesh so what happened? please stop lying you got your wish. Bangladesh are a weaker team and you refuse your players to play in BPL while Australia are a bigger team and allow your players to play there, something doesn't make sense to me very confused.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

@Bilal Cheema "No Competition!" you should look at both games Pakistan played in last Asia cup. Pakistan won only because so many if and buts gone in favour of them. Do you not consider them as 'competition'?

Me personally think decision to not to send BD team in Pakistan was a political one, determined by the large public up-roaring against the trip which in my understanding is coming from unnecessary anger hidden beneath. Timing of the series is also a factor here.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

My Paki brothers are talking about commitment. Yes, thats why we are not saying that we will not go. We will go if your condition is under control. We wanted to go on April last year but security condition was not good. As a result we postponed it to Jan13 but still now security condition is worse than April. So how can we send our players in danger! Please be realistic. Remember we are all cricket lovers and we dont wanna see same incident again like 2009.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

@warm cofee the only reason which helped you in beatng us in u 19 wc was that we faced an upset loss from india due to which our players were mentally low and which history you are talking about. 1n 13 encounters between pakistan and bangladesh at u 19 level pak beaten you 11 so wake up bro. pak produce talents like umar akmal asad azhar and junaid recently. cricinfo please publish my comments

Posted by ABRAR-JANJUA on (January 1, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

hahahahhahahahhahaha BCB is trying to give some hope to Franchise and themselves by that false Statement. I must say Pakistan must Take very strict stance and don't send Pakistani Players to a country who doesn't give value to commitment.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

a few BD fans who cant win by arguments end up sending msgs full of abuses in my inbox ... funny people really ... lolx

Posted by The_Mystery_Ball on (January 1, 2013, 17:33 GMT)

I think that the exclusion of Pakistani players from the BPL will make the BCB and most importantly the Bangladesh public, realize the importance of Pakistani players in the league. Besides the Quaid-e-Azam trophy the players will also be on tour of South Africa so, I guess that the Bangladesh's refusal might not be the core reason for no involvement of Pakistani players because the PCB wants the players to be focused on their national duties.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:32 GMT)

The present condition of Pakistan is not good at all. So BCB didn't agree to send our players to play against Pakistan in their home ground. The concern is about the security. I think in the aspect of a cricket team, Pakistan can hope that any country would visit in their country to play games though the security is the talk of town. Whatever BCB has taken right decision for not going there but they should not have promised to visit there. Because as you can see the situation wouldn't go in the right way, then you obviously shouldn't have kept promise. I have no sympathetic matter for this tour yet this issue need to be ended in a conclusion. Otherwise this issue of tour can be a bone of contention between two boards.

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 1, 2013, 17:30 GMT)

Listen my Pakistani brothers! BCB has done what they had in their hearts. This was unprofessional as Pakistan Cricket Board must have had something on the basis of which we were calling BD players. In general, BD fans think that Pakistan is going to let the Bangladeshi players wander on the streets and roads of lahore with no security whatsoever. This was the childish thinking. The BD board should have had clear stance that they are not sending their team earlier. I don't say that they had got the benefit what they required from Pakistan and then turned back. This benefit was for them no matter what. If there is any role of Pakistan cricket board in it, This ability is given by Allah that we can somehow support. There is no need to be proud or angry. Time for Pakistan is to be professional. In sha'Allah we will have the good overall situation in our country and cricket is the secondary thing.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:30 GMT)

LOLZ. BD want us to ''watch'' Asia cup? yes we have seen that a lot. Pakistan won that cu-p at Bangladesh so what? when was the last time we saw Bangladesh winning from us? i still remember how BCB cried over ACC after that final and how their PM left the ground.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:27 GMT)

@asu4ever i watched that once in a bluemoon performance by BD team...and i know BD fans are gona sing songs fo that asia cup for a decade now...afterall thats all they got to show the world after 15 years of boring cricket !!!! nd btw just for ur info since 1999, scoreline b/w PAk and BD reads 30-0 across all formats ... cheers bro !!!

Posted by UrmilaJharna on (January 1, 2013, 17:25 GMT)

To me, It is a clear betrayal of a 'written' truce between two boards. BCB betrayed with PCB. Previous BCB president should be held responsible for making this commitment. Simply BCB could have turned down the proposal in the first instance. Why did he make it comlicated? Does NOT make sense. Just wanted to be VP of ICC ? So bad.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:24 GMT)

@cairo Our players play for country first money is always secondary concern.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:24 GMT)

Bangladesh is not very important first they learn cricket properly then their Chairman should do press conference,,i think PCB should not allow their cricketers to play there, and PCB should play with Afghanistan or irland or even Zimbabwe is far better than bangladesh.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:19 GMT)

pcb not allow their player to attend bpl simple

Posted by Syed_imran_abbas on (January 1, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

The guys who are not gona be a part of south african tour should be given NOC to play in Bangladesh childish league. But if Pakistan really wana take his revenge of mis-commitment, and teach them a good lesson, there is no better chance than now. this will take BCB way down to the big trouble.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:16 GMT)

Tit for tat, PCB should confirm that all players are available and pull out at the very last moment. Only doing this will make BCB realize who others feel when you back step several times after getting forward. If they don't wanna come then so be it, they don't have the right to play with sentiments of 18 million people.. That too for several times..

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

Team like Bangladesh and board like BCB have no credibility at all. Why Pakistan is even talking to them on these terms?

Posted by torsha on (January 1, 2013, 17:06 GMT)

If Pakistan has any self respect then PCB will not send any pak players. Now it's upto them if they want to put money ahead of pride.

Posted by asu4ever on (January 1, 2013, 17:06 GMT) seems like u didn't watch last Asia cup....very funny logic.

Posted by afaqmalik1 on (January 1, 2013, 17:04 GMT)

Being a Pakistani, I am as angry as my other country fellows but this might not be a professional move refusing BCB straight by not sending the players in their league. My opinion is that Pakistan must not spoil relations with the BCB but, should not expect anything good from those people in the future as they showed how bigger and open their hearts are. Mr Hassan! the matter wasn't about the security in Pakistan and this is also the issue that Pakistan is dying to see BD players in Pakistani Grounds. The matter was about commitment. If you didn't have plans for the tour, you should have refused from the day first. Anyways, this attitude might not be forgotten by Pakistan for a long time. Cheers!!

Posted by MAK123 on (January 1, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

I think Pakistan should agree to send their players at this point in time. However, they must pull out on the eleventh hour to give BCB a taste of their own medicine. Justice is better served cold

Posted by LahoriLion009 on (January 1, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

Where are the people who said earlier that there will be no different in so called BPL without paki heroes then why the franchises and board regret now.....You people have no face to still hope that pak players will participate in BPL... TIT 4 TAT

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:53 GMT)

@ asiacricket1234 ---- I believe these ordinary players willl give complete Below Ordinary bangladesh cricket a bit quality

Posted by Ahsan-cric-freak on (January 1, 2013, 16:47 GMT)

What's the point for waiting? Zaka reply them that v r not sending our players for BPL nor v r interested in keeping any bilateral relations as we have other plans for the future. Tell them that they are not professional enough to play against a top quality team especially when we have a busy year ahead. We are not just dying without cricket on our soil. UAE is OK for cricket and we can continue to playing there. Bangladesh you take my words: Bangladesh looks to have no future in cricket as they do not respect their elders! Pakistan should rather ask players to rest and arrange for a long training camp before they go off to South Africa.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:43 GMT)

1st safety then cricket...

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (January 1, 2013, 16:39 GMT)

@Ehtesham Ahmed: You're not really making much sense because our under-19 with their youths already owns your under-19 team we beat you in that under-19 world cup and our overall record is 6-5 over you so come up with something more logical next time good effort though.

Posted by cairo on (January 1, 2013, 16:39 GMT)

What pk will get even BPL flops. Dear friends your players also will not get money. mind it, player play for money.

Posted by Malik121 on (January 1, 2013, 16:32 GMT)

Yeah, i think its the time to think about Pak Bangla relationship. If Bangldesh cant come to Pakistan than why Pakistani players should allow to go there. I think Pak should open there own leage and should forget Bangladesh. I hope we will be better of with out Bangladesh.

Posted by asiacricket1234 on (January 1, 2013, 16:29 GMT)

Aah there come the trouble. Well what PCB will do is tell them that they are gonna get Pak player and than pull out at the very last moment so what BCB should do is start looking for other players from county. A part from few Pak player such as Afridi, Ajmal, Akmal bro and Nazir most of them are ordinary player so not having them wont make much change in regards to quality.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:29 GMT)

NO .... no Pakistani players in BPL we dnt want our players to play for a cricket board that cannot stand by its words !!!! financially it should not b a problem bcz the payment delays of BPL is an open secret... may b a couple of useless players who r of the caliber of BD players can be sent but by no means any of the top 40 players from Pakistan should participate in BPL...Quaid e azam trophy itself is more competitive than having a series vs BD...the only time they won against Pakistan was in an age when Bill clinton was the USA President...3 terms have passed since :P therz no competition ... enuf said !

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:25 GMT)

PCB will be wrong if they barred Pakistani players to play BPL just like Bangladesh board who is wrong by backtracking from their commitment. They should had said no at first place since security situation in Pakistan is indeed not ideal yet. As far as 20-20 cricket is concerned, it should be limited to WC only. Hopefully PCB's plan for Pakistan league doesn't make much success. It will only destroy our batsmen technique in a longer run.

Posted by MHZ14 on (January 1, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

Please please PCB , dont send Paki players to BPL . If they can't honor their commitment then no point sending players to BPL. Let B'desh feel the pain

Posted by Anwar-Lara on (January 1, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

But why do you expect Pakistani Players to participate in BPL ??? Because you know that BPL will be super flop without Pakistani Players..

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:21 GMT)

First of all Pakistan should settle down and dont ask foreign teams to come as the situation right now is not good for foreign teams to come. second thing is Teams like Bangladesh should only be allowed to play with lahore on Karachi cricket associations they r not worth playing pakistan right now. And if they beat kARACHI OR lAHORE Cricket associations that they can play Pakistan under 19 or under 23 so they know their standings.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

it will be a good move to not allow pakistani palyers to attend BPL . because people do not care whether player make money or not, it only only help player to atteng bpl not people or pakistan so do not allow players for bpl please

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

its time PCB pulls out after BCB have turned their backs twice!! two times pulling out of commitment and 'that' issue after Asia Cup Final.. enough

Posted by   on (January 1, 2013, 16:11 GMT)

hahaha u guys r funny u just care for ur interests and no Pakistan not gonna send our players just get players from SECURE countries thank u :))

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