Bangladesh v West Indies, 2nd Test, Mirpur, 3rd day October 31, 2011

Bangladesh's batting 'mediocre' - Law

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Bangladesh batted only 17 overs on the third day in Mirpur, but their "mediocre batting performance" on the second which gave West Indies the advantage, has left their coach Stuart Law frustrated.

Bangladesh were bowled out for 231 in 68 overs in the first innings, after West Indies had made 355. "It [the Test] is probably not going where we planned, due to a mediocre batting performance by us," Law said. "We wanted to bat 130 overs but we failed to do so. The opposition now are well and truly in control. It'll take a lot of hard work to get back in the game.

"It is frustrating as a coach, when you need to ask players to try and bat a long time. Let's see who can bat a day [in the second innings], let's get someone getting a 100."

In the second innings West Indies took their lead past 300 as the Bangladesh spinners found it difficult to turn the ball. With two days left, Bangladesh were faced with a big challenge. "We need to find a way to score runs, stay at the wicket, to score an ugly 80 or 120 and not a pretty 40," Law said. "That'll be more beneficial to the side's cause. Shot selection and being positive doesn't mean hitting a six [every ball]. It is about making the right choices every delivery, and batting for more deliveries than we are [currently]."

Law said Bangladesh had to adapt to the playing surface and needed to revisit their choice of playing XI. "The surface is different here [from the one in Chittagong], two totally different pitches. They are good wickets but we have to find a way to win games. In the future, we will have to see if we are playing the right combination of bowlers. Maybe we need to think a little bit harder about who we play."

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  • Meety on November 2, 2011, 0:06 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty - funny, they can't pick ONE SIDE that can beat the Bangas in a World Cup - LOL!!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • chapathishot on November 1, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    So How many test did Stuart Law Played

  • chapathishot on November 1, 2011, 6:20 GMT

    @jgomes: India took lesser number of tests than Bangladesh to Register their first win,You can check the stats section I think it is 22 or 23 to 25.But you should also understand the fact that there was virtually no Cricket for almost seven or Eight years because of the War and Pre Independent India was not India as it stands now but India-Pakistan and Bangladesh consolidated ie British India .

  • mrgupta on November 1, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    @jgomes : I am not sure if you are aware that it took India 29 years to play same number of tests that BD has played in 11 years. So, the comparison in number of years can be rested here. Compare how did each team performed in their first 70 tests. FYI, after 70 tests India had a win-loss ratio 4 times better than BD and had test victories against Aus and Eng.

  • SachinIsTheGreatest on November 1, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    @jgomes, one fact you might want to consider and this is just a rough calculation I have made, India played 30 tests till their first win. I am sure Bangladesh have already played that many in 10 years?

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 1, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    And BD bowling is 'ORDINARY'...LOL...Their own coach is not impressed with the team!

  • likeintcricket on November 1, 2011, 2:51 GMT

    I Like Bangladesh But I hate to say they are a mediocre side. Cricket was very popular in Pre partition Bengal and after Partition Dhaka was the regular Test center for Pakistan. Even than Bangladesh Could not produce a cricketer of repute. At the same time Sri Lanka has produced so many great cricketers who cannot be counted.

  • jgomes on November 1, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    A of talk about Bangladesh not ever improving in tests etc. India started playing tests in 1932 and it took them 20 years (1952) to win their first test.

  • on November 1, 2011, 0:28 GMT

    @Mr.Tom10 - Hate to disagree mate:) Mediocre a bigger understatement than saying Michael Clark is a princess:)

  • orangtan on November 1, 2011, 0:28 GMT

    I think the cricket set-up in Bangladesh, in fact throughout the sub-continent, is to blame. players are forever engaged in T-20s, Hongkong sixes ( execrable stuff) and at best ODIs. No one is available to play the first class matches. So, grafting and application are completely alien to them. But, it can be done, look at the current Pakistan team where Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq are shining examples of young batsmen who are willing to play in Test match mode. Of-course, they have an excellent role model in Misbah.

  • Meety on November 2, 2011, 0:06 GMT

    @OhhhhMattyMatty - funny, they can't pick ONE SIDE that can beat the Bangas in a World Cup - LOL!!!!!! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • chapathishot on November 1, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    So How many test did Stuart Law Played

  • chapathishot on November 1, 2011, 6:20 GMT

    @jgomes: India took lesser number of tests than Bangladesh to Register their first win,You can check the stats section I think it is 22 or 23 to 25.But you should also understand the fact that there was virtually no Cricket for almost seven or Eight years because of the War and Pre Independent India was not India as it stands now but India-Pakistan and Bangladesh consolidated ie British India .

  • mrgupta on November 1, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    @jgomes : I am not sure if you are aware that it took India 29 years to play same number of tests that BD has played in 11 years. So, the comparison in number of years can be rested here. Compare how did each team performed in their first 70 tests. FYI, after 70 tests India had a win-loss ratio 4 times better than BD and had test victories against Aus and Eng.

  • SachinIsTheGreatest on November 1, 2011, 4:35 GMT

    @jgomes, one fact you might want to consider and this is just a rough calculation I have made, India played 30 tests till their first win. I am sure Bangladesh have already played that many in 10 years?

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 1, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    And BD bowling is 'ORDINARY'...LOL...Their own coach is not impressed with the team!

  • likeintcricket on November 1, 2011, 2:51 GMT

    I Like Bangladesh But I hate to say they are a mediocre side. Cricket was very popular in Pre partition Bengal and after Partition Dhaka was the regular Test center for Pakistan. Even than Bangladesh Could not produce a cricketer of repute. At the same time Sri Lanka has produced so many great cricketers who cannot be counted.

  • jgomes on November 1, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    A of talk about Bangladesh not ever improving in tests etc. India started playing tests in 1932 and it took them 20 years (1952) to win their first test.

  • on November 1, 2011, 0:28 GMT

    @Mr.Tom10 - Hate to disagree mate:) Mediocre a bigger understatement than saying Michael Clark is a princess:)

  • orangtan on November 1, 2011, 0:28 GMT

    I think the cricket set-up in Bangladesh, in fact throughout the sub-continent, is to blame. players are forever engaged in T-20s, Hongkong sixes ( execrable stuff) and at best ODIs. No one is available to play the first class matches. So, grafting and application are completely alien to them. But, it can be done, look at the current Pakistan team where Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq are shining examples of young batsmen who are willing to play in Test match mode. Of-course, they have an excellent role model in Misbah.

  • on October 31, 2011, 23:36 GMT

    Incredible to see many "So Up-So Down" coments everytime Bangladesh plays.

    I doubt those guys saying "BD can't have Test status" did the same when BD were cleary the best side last match. But some days past and paradise turns into hell.

    Very funny.

  • OhhhhMattyMatty on October 31, 2011, 23:14 GMT

    England could pick 5 teams which would beat Bangladesh no trouble. That says it all. Aside from Shakib and Tamim, no Bangladeshis would ne able to play top division County Cricket.

  • Meety on October 31, 2011, 23:11 GMT

    On my soapbox again - I note Rajin Saleh scored another ton the other day. He has one of the better FC records in Bangladesh, hasn't been seen for years in a national side. His bating average is over 7 runs per innings better than Ashraful. Just worth a mention that Kazi Islam is IMO worth a shot for the national team. He is a left arm pace bowler, something of a rarity in Bangladesh, some decent stats too. He could add some variety to the pace attack.

  • Meety on October 31, 2011, 22:57 GMT

    @doosra95 - I agree & disagree. I agree that the Bangas need to improve the standard of their FC comp. They recently increased their FC teams to 8. I think that is too many. It spreads the talent base too thinly. They should of stayed at 6 or even dropped to 4 or 5 teams. The part I disagree with, is that Shakib is not the only star, Nasir (unproven yet), Tamim (Wisden cricketer of the year), Mahmudullah (injured) are 3 very good cricketers. @Kamran Sekha - other nations took a lot longer than ten years to improve, (India, Pakistan, NZ & Sth Africa).

  • Legaleagle on October 31, 2011, 22:41 GMT

    Bangladesh is an "ordinary" team- this has been proven time and again- at so many venues and at so many levels. Its truly unfortunate for this game to have BD continue to play mediocre game and still manage to have test playing status. No player in this BD line up has talent. So many people talk about Tamim and Shakib- What kind of test average do they have? Its shameful!!

    The domestic cricket in BD needs go through a revitalization in order to produce talented cricketers. Currently, I don't see any hope with this team.

  • Technical-1 on October 31, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    BD.. will one day get there.. Everything Takes time.. Rome was not build in 10 years.

  • IAS2009 on October 31, 2011, 21:44 GMT

    the basics are not there for BD for a test team, they should only play T20 and ODI. this will save every one time. players who got very long stint to prove themselves are mediocre at best at this level, ICC should really think about BD and Zimbabwe also about their test status, there is nothing wrong in T20 and ODIs.

  • on October 31, 2011, 20:56 GMT

    Bangladesh has had ten years of test cricket. In fact the most they have batted like a test team was in their very first innings when they got 400 against India. Aminul Islam scored 145 in an innings of great application. At that time, it seemed that ten years later this would be a top quality test team. Unfortunately in these ten years, apart from occasional noteworthy performances, Bangladesh as a test team have not achieved anything. If a team doesn't improve in ten years, then they just don't have it in them. This team is not suited to test cricket and will never be, no matter who coaches them or how they are coached or how their domestic structure is. It is no use flogging a dead horse. Even Zimbabwe and Ireland are better than Bangladesh, given their limited resources. Bangladeshi cricketers should only play ODI and T20 cricket, and that too against weak opposition. Perhaps they are better off taking up some other sport.

  • on October 31, 2011, 20:03 GMT

    Even as an Indian - I miss players like Habibul Bashar, Javed Omar and Aminul Islam - at least they had the temperament to stick around and let others bat around them. Make no mistake - they could play their strokes too - but they played the role which Boycott played for ENG, or Gavaskar for IND - in a mediocre team - they tried to give a little backbone. NONE of the present day BD batsmen bat with that mentality, barring Shakib. Tamim, Ashraful etc. are really talented - but with the sort of application they show - won't get them anywhere. And it's not like they have bowlers to defend 250 odd on a flat track.

  • MrTom10 on October 31, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    Mediocre a bigger understatement than saying Jesse Ryder is 'large'

  • proud_Bangladeshi on October 31, 2011, 18:42 GMT

    We know we are not "in real terms" a test-playing nation. I know it is way too late to talk about things like "how we got test status? how much politics was involved in that decision to approve our test-status than our cricketing ability? were we really ready to play tests?" etc

    However, as we are playing tests, we have to prepare ourselves to play as better as possible anyway. Mr Law has to find ways to instill patience, maturity and discipline in our players who are given chances to play in the eleven. I am little surprised the way he talked about the playing eleven in Dhaka test especially. Isn't he suppose to have says in deciding the playing eleven?

    I think our cricket is as politicized as the whole country's systems are. we have wrong people being given wrong responsibilities and end results are as expected - disaster!

  • on October 31, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    One thing has to be remembered. If your mental focus is not built from the beginning , you can not improve it at a later time. Another thing is as a Bangladeshi I also feel that we are an impatient nation. In every aspect of the life we start in a great way, but fail to hold it consistently.

    Although it is too late and 11 years has gone past in test cricket,What we needed to do is we should play at least 20 4/5 days games in local leagues (Premier,1st second,school) each season , and ask every top order batsmen to have a 50.00 + avg. in them playing at least 100 overs in each innings. Otherwise don't take them into ODI and Test squad.

    Once in a while we hear in some part of India someone scores a 500 runs in school cricket. As far as I know, we dont have the longer version of game in school cricket. Image a 15 years old boy socring 200 runs batting for 10 hours. When he will be 21 and ready to play in the international match, why shouldn't he do well?

  • on October 31, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    BD batsmen has a longgg way to go..our Domestic structure is very very poor and more importantly these most test players, they barely play any 4 days matches so How do u expect to fight in this level? I think BD shud seriously consider quitting TEST cricket for a little while bcuz We will see more humiliating situations in future..TEST cricket is not a Joke..

  • on October 31, 2011, 18:09 GMT

    I am kind of bemused by Stuart's comments. Does he not have an input to who is playing who is not? Fact is it does not matter who do you put in the outcome will be the same as long as there are no consequences. Players needs to fired and stripped of their national contract for using thier head. The last run out was one that a school cricketer should not have made at the close of the day. Giving Ashraful so many chances has created the atmosphere of complacency among the palyers. This WI team is not much better than the one we beat. There is no Gayle here. Openning pairs would not make A-team of any other country and yet they rack up big openning stands. We doling out maden hundreds like early Chrismas gifts. Pitch seems placid when WI batting and venomous when BD batting. It all points to the fact we are short on skill as well as temperament. We need to take a time out from the big league and go back to learning to play before we bloody our noses in the real battle.

  • CricLook on October 31, 2011, 16:34 GMT

    Its really frustrating for a coach to watch his batsman behaving like Bangladesh did in the first innings. They are batting as they are chasing 355 in a ODI or T20. I can understand his feelings..but here where he needs to work. He has to input the philosophy of test cricket to these young cricketers. Recent time Pakistan adapted the old and classic approach of test batting and getting result as well even though their batting is not charming to watch. I wish Stuart Law will do the same thing with this team.

  • DarindaUK on October 31, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    Stuart Law, I feel sorry for you as a coach. You try your best to tell these guys to stay in the crease as long as possible, but they think playing few boundary shots are much preferred than playing 50/60 overs. It is sad for BD that they had a chance to win the Chitagong test, but the rain god has helped the WI. Now the sun god has helped the WI to most probably win the game tomorrow. The RAIN and SUN are in WI favour. Tiger Cubs!!! take this challenge to stay in the crease as long as possible, don't worry about the runs. Just stay in the crease. Take a challenge to yourself to remain and work towards a DRAW. Nothing is impossible when you put your heart and soul in the game. Just keep batting till the SUN goes DOWN. Good luck. Tamim and Shahriar, no fancy shots, but just don't get out with silly shots.

  • kushal_masand on October 31, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    Atleast the coach is thinking a bit out of ordinary....and agreeing that they have to think abt their team selections...

  • Asadpk on October 31, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    Stuart Law is dead right, Bangladesh batsmen actually play Test cricket like ODIs and ODIs like T20s. They need much more application and patience in order to construct a long innings. You cannot win Test matches by scoring a fast 40 or 50.

  • doosra95 on October 31, 2011, 15:31 GMT

    Bangladesh love to hype their batsman for instance Asharaful So much talent got distracted by involving him self with politics, now Tamim is a very much ODI player.Not good enough at test level.Domestic cricket is very poor.

    For Bangladesh to produce quality Test cricketers they need better 4 day format and not ODI.

    Only Shining star in Bangladesh cricket is Sakib Al Hassan.

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  • doosra95 on October 31, 2011, 15:31 GMT

    Bangladesh love to hype their batsman for instance Asharaful So much talent got distracted by involving him self with politics, now Tamim is a very much ODI player.Not good enough at test level.Domestic cricket is very poor.

    For Bangladesh to produce quality Test cricketers they need better 4 day format and not ODI.

    Only Shining star in Bangladesh cricket is Sakib Al Hassan.

  • Asadpk on October 31, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    Stuart Law is dead right, Bangladesh batsmen actually play Test cricket like ODIs and ODIs like T20s. They need much more application and patience in order to construct a long innings. You cannot win Test matches by scoring a fast 40 or 50.

  • kushal_masand on October 31, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    Atleast the coach is thinking a bit out of ordinary....and agreeing that they have to think abt their team selections...

  • DarindaUK on October 31, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    Stuart Law, I feel sorry for you as a coach. You try your best to tell these guys to stay in the crease as long as possible, but they think playing few boundary shots are much preferred than playing 50/60 overs. It is sad for BD that they had a chance to win the Chitagong test, but the rain god has helped the WI. Now the sun god has helped the WI to most probably win the game tomorrow. The RAIN and SUN are in WI favour. Tiger Cubs!!! take this challenge to stay in the crease as long as possible, don't worry about the runs. Just stay in the crease. Take a challenge to yourself to remain and work towards a DRAW. Nothing is impossible when you put your heart and soul in the game. Just keep batting till the SUN goes DOWN. Good luck. Tamim and Shahriar, no fancy shots, but just don't get out with silly shots.

  • CricLook on October 31, 2011, 16:34 GMT

    Its really frustrating for a coach to watch his batsman behaving like Bangladesh did in the first innings. They are batting as they are chasing 355 in a ODI or T20. I can understand his feelings..but here where he needs to work. He has to input the philosophy of test cricket to these young cricketers. Recent time Pakistan adapted the old and classic approach of test batting and getting result as well even though their batting is not charming to watch. I wish Stuart Law will do the same thing with this team.

  • on October 31, 2011, 18:09 GMT

    I am kind of bemused by Stuart's comments. Does he not have an input to who is playing who is not? Fact is it does not matter who do you put in the outcome will be the same as long as there are no consequences. Players needs to fired and stripped of their national contract for using thier head. The last run out was one that a school cricketer should not have made at the close of the day. Giving Ashraful so many chances has created the atmosphere of complacency among the palyers. This WI team is not much better than the one we beat. There is no Gayle here. Openning pairs would not make A-team of any other country and yet they rack up big openning stands. We doling out maden hundreds like early Chrismas gifts. Pitch seems placid when WI batting and venomous when BD batting. It all points to the fact we are short on skill as well as temperament. We need to take a time out from the big league and go back to learning to play before we bloody our noses in the real battle.

  • on October 31, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    BD batsmen has a longgg way to go..our Domestic structure is very very poor and more importantly these most test players, they barely play any 4 days matches so How do u expect to fight in this level? I think BD shud seriously consider quitting TEST cricket for a little while bcuz We will see more humiliating situations in future..TEST cricket is not a Joke..

  • on October 31, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    One thing has to be remembered. If your mental focus is not built from the beginning , you can not improve it at a later time. Another thing is as a Bangladeshi I also feel that we are an impatient nation. In every aspect of the life we start in a great way, but fail to hold it consistently.

    Although it is too late and 11 years has gone past in test cricket,What we needed to do is we should play at least 20 4/5 days games in local leagues (Premier,1st second,school) each season , and ask every top order batsmen to have a 50.00 + avg. in them playing at least 100 overs in each innings. Otherwise don't take them into ODI and Test squad.

    Once in a while we hear in some part of India someone scores a 500 runs in school cricket. As far as I know, we dont have the longer version of game in school cricket. Image a 15 years old boy socring 200 runs batting for 10 hours. When he will be 21 and ready to play in the international match, why shouldn't he do well?

  • proud_Bangladeshi on October 31, 2011, 18:42 GMT

    We know we are not "in real terms" a test-playing nation. I know it is way too late to talk about things like "how we got test status? how much politics was involved in that decision to approve our test-status than our cricketing ability? were we really ready to play tests?" etc

    However, as we are playing tests, we have to prepare ourselves to play as better as possible anyway. Mr Law has to find ways to instill patience, maturity and discipline in our players who are given chances to play in the eleven. I am little surprised the way he talked about the playing eleven in Dhaka test especially. Isn't he suppose to have says in deciding the playing eleven?

    I think our cricket is as politicized as the whole country's systems are. we have wrong people being given wrong responsibilities and end results are as expected - disaster!

  • MrTom10 on October 31, 2011, 18:46 GMT

    Mediocre a bigger understatement than saying Jesse Ryder is 'large'