Bangladesh v West Indies, 2nd Test, Mirpur, 5th day November 2, 2011

West Indies' youngsters come of age

The time invested in the likes of Devendra Bishoo, Kirk Edwards, Kraigg Brathwaite, Lendl Simmons and Darren Bravo, that they were given the space to do their own thing, has paid off for West Indies
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West Indies have won a Test series away from home for the first time in eight years, the previous occasion being the heart-stopping 1-0 win over Zimbabwe in 2003. After several upheavals, changes in leadership, player strikes, suspensions and a dearth of trophies, it fell to a young team to give Caribbean cricket a rare sniff of success.

Of course, the 229-run win in Mirpur left captain Darren Sammy pleased no end. "The positives from this tour have to be the way the batsmen went about their business. Not just putting the runs on the board, but also spending time at the crease," he said. "It feels really good to win. We left home hoping to play well, we achieved our goal. We always knew we were in for a challenge, with the way Shakib [Al Hasan] and Tamim [Iqbal] batted especially."

The discipline displayed by the bowlers, said Sammy, had a major bearing on Bangladesh's batsmen playing rash shots that brought about their downfall. "In the first innings we didn't concede any extras. I don't recall this ever happening before. That shows the discipline in the bowling unit."

Devendra Bishoo, the ICC's Emerging Player of the Year who picked up his first five-for in Test cricket in Mirpur, heaped praise on his captain and support staff. "When I started off, I was not bowling that well," he said. "The coaching staff and skipper just told me to believe in myself, to do what I knew best. I just had to vary my pace and just be containing."

It worked for Bishoo, and for the team. The time invested in the likes of Bishoo, Kirk Edwards, Kraigg Brathwaite, Lendl Simmons and Darren Bravo, that they were given the space to do their own thing, has paid off. Now, slowly, they seem to be growing comfortable with their role in the team at the game's highest level.

A series win over Bangladesh wouldn't have sounded too flash in the last decade, but with their inexperienced top-order and a thin bowling attack, West Indies were always facing a tricky battle against Bangladesh, in conditions that heavily favoured the hosts. The youngsters, though, responded adequately. Following a drawn Test series with Pakistan, they impressed in a lost cause against India before coming to Bangladesh, a team they had lost to in 2009.

Simmons led the way with his twin successes in the one-day series, with a little help from the experienced Marlon Samuels and Ravi Rampaul, and a burst of wickets from Kemar Roach in the second ODI. Bangladesh succumbed to their own follies, but one had to applaud the way Simmons efficiently anchored both the limited-overs games in Dhaka. After the blip in Chittagong - where West Indies were shot out for 61 in the third ODI and lorded over for most part of the Test - the opening partnership in Mirpur between 18-year-old Brathwaite and Kieran Powell, a last-minute replacement for Simmons, set the tone for what turned out to be a fine Test win.

Edwards built on the platform with a proper No. 3 innings; he held the innings together and strung together a series of small stands as he reached his second Test century in only his third game. Brathwaite had batted to a plan as well, occupying the crease for as long as possible and giving the more attacking Powell a chance to open up his shoulders.

Darren Bravo, whose batting style has often been compared to that of Brian Lara, too, came of age in this series. The pressure was on him, with cynics claiming that it was only the mannerisms of Lara that could be found in him, that the comparison ended there. He responded with a knock of 195 in the second innings that set up the big win, with some of his shots - especially the lofted drive down the ground - showing us just why the comparison with the legend was made in the first place.

Mohammad Isam is senior sports reporter at the Daily Star in Dhaka

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  • linjean on November 4, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    For all persons who are on Sammy's case here are some things of note:

    1. Among the top 100 test bowlers he is ranked 29th. Among West Indies bowlers he is number 3 behind Edwards and Taylor. 2. Among the top 100 ODI bowlers, he is ranked 34th. Among West Indies bowlers he is number 2 behind Rampaul. 3. Among top 100 T20 bowlers, he is ranked 8th. Among West Indies bowlers he is number 1. 4. Out of 18 Test matches, he has taken 50 wkts, bowling avg. is 29.20 and economy rate of 2.63. Compare that to Fidel Edwards who played 48 matches, 148 wkts, avg of 36.48, econ rate of 3.94. this means that if sammy had played as many matches as Fidel, he would have picked up more wickets at a better avg, a better strike rate and economy rate.

    Please, lets not just speak because of emotions. Let the stats speak for its self. Sammy is one of the best bowlers in this WI squad. Though I would have liked him to be a shade quicker.

  • on November 4, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    The ideal situation would be Fidel, Roach, Ravi, Bishoo,& Samuels, but that can't be, we have Sammy. This is what the Sammy factor does. He contains, he ties up 1 end, he draws batters into a false sense of security, he allows u to attack at the other end. Make no mistake Sammy is a good bowler( check record), he gets crucial wks at critical times. And his bowling is vital in the shorter versions of the game. Our attack is quite adequate, once properly utilized. Regarding our spin attack remember u don't take sand to the beach,Shane,Bishoo & Samuels r just fine.

  • on November 4, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    Marlon Samuels is the best batsmen in the current squad let him to play at no 3 or 4 to spend more time at crease

  • bigrishi on November 4, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    congrats windies.....having said that it is important to put this win in context. this is bangladesh, ranked below us. not so long ago this series would have been considered a warmup for the series against india. i have no problems with the players, but the best side should be playing. i think that the wicb should realize that the game is bigger than the player, even that the game is bigger by far than the individuals concerned with cricket. by statistics sammy deserves a play, but so does gayle...

  • PaddyRasta on November 4, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    @cricchic Please suggest a true allrounder and do not say Dwayne Bravo - I have nothing against the man but let's face it, he has been woefully out of form. In the recent 50 over regional comp he averaged 16 with the bat and did not bowl. Russell may develop into one but he isn't really at Test level yet. The cupboard is bare. Sammy is there as a specialist bowler - end of story. And he brings much needed leadership, work ethic and motivation and gels these talented players together as a Team. No disrespect to them, but this is something Gayle, Sarwan, Lara etc did not achieve. it is not an ideal situation but there's no point complaining without suggestions of a viable solution or alternative for allrounder or captain.

  • Metman on November 3, 2011, 22:52 GMT

    @Ryan Ramdin !Why are you so negative man?Is it because WI won the match with only one trini on the team ? If my memory serves me correct,didn't we beat England without any trinis as well ? John Duch was absolutely correct when he said you trinis want WI to do bad under Sammy !My prediction has come to pass !The WI needed Bajan stability at the top , a Bajan fast bowler firing in the bowling attack,and a Guyanese spinner taking wickets.As I keep saying,and as Garner said,Roach needs to be more agressive.He again appears to be just running in,and bowling.The WI need Edwards,Roach and Taylor as their pacemen,and Barath,and either Brathwaite or Powell as the openers.

  • todobless on November 3, 2011, 21:47 GMT

    1)Simmons, 2)Gayle, 3)Kirk 4)Bravo, 5)Chanders, 6)Samuels, 7)Dwayne/Russell/Pollard 8)Ramdin/Baugh, 9)Bishoo, 10)Rampaul, 11)Edwards. 12)Narine 13)one of the all-rounders...14)/Roach 15)Barrath.

  • Alexei on November 3, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    I would just like t point out at this time tht Gayle as captain is the best thing for the team. The only reason why the WICB doesnt want him to be captain is bcuz he is outspoken (they made their displeasure known at him being named captain of the Jamaica team) He is the best captain WI have had for some time now and the stats will show his performaces have been lifted since appointed captain. Under his leadership we have pulled out impressive victories. No one would have expected that 1-0 series win against a team of England's calibre..and we did well to hold on to that win. When Gayle is named captaincy once again, then u will see maximum performances from thside. Also, i would like to say, Sammy's stats merits his place in the team as he has the best average and S/R ..its just his batting needs to start firing and everyone will be off his back.

  • Mayfield on November 3, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    Response to Ryan Ramdin. How does one get experience? The WI team might indeed have boys, but in time they will grow to be men. Garfield Sobers, Richards, Marshall, Roberts, Lara, et al, all started just like the present crop started. As the great Clive Llyod said, they are 15-20 young cricketers that are going to be the future of WI cricket and will go on to do great things. It does not happen overnight. With the right guidance and the right mindset, WI cricket will gradually get better. I believe, Gibson and company are moving the team in that direction.

  • IPSY on November 3, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    "After several upheavals, changes in leadership, .....it fell to a young team to give Caribbean cricket a rare sniff of success" (Isam, M.2011). I think a quotation like this in this article only helps to insult the intelligence of the knowledgeable cricketing public, as it relates to the real situation in WI cricket in recent times! I'm almost sure the whole world knows that the turmoil in WI cricket in the past decade and a half, still very much exists; but these freak wins come occasionally - It has nothing to do with any changes in personnel, as the writer seems to want to suggest. In fact, the last time WI won a creditable series was under Chris Gayle in 2009, against England, the world's current No.1 team. But that said year, when Bangladesh toured WI and Gayle was absent and Sammy played, Bangladesh whitewashed WI 2 games to nil. But on their last tour to Bangladesh, when Sammy was absent and Gayle played, WI white-washed Bangladesh 2 games to nil. Hence, just a usual rare win!

  • linjean on November 4, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    For all persons who are on Sammy's case here are some things of note:

    1. Among the top 100 test bowlers he is ranked 29th. Among West Indies bowlers he is number 3 behind Edwards and Taylor. 2. Among the top 100 ODI bowlers, he is ranked 34th. Among West Indies bowlers he is number 2 behind Rampaul. 3. Among top 100 T20 bowlers, he is ranked 8th. Among West Indies bowlers he is number 1. 4. Out of 18 Test matches, he has taken 50 wkts, bowling avg. is 29.20 and economy rate of 2.63. Compare that to Fidel Edwards who played 48 matches, 148 wkts, avg of 36.48, econ rate of 3.94. this means that if sammy had played as many matches as Fidel, he would have picked up more wickets at a better avg, a better strike rate and economy rate.

    Please, lets not just speak because of emotions. Let the stats speak for its self. Sammy is one of the best bowlers in this WI squad. Though I would have liked him to be a shade quicker.

  • on November 4, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    The ideal situation would be Fidel, Roach, Ravi, Bishoo,& Samuels, but that can't be, we have Sammy. This is what the Sammy factor does. He contains, he ties up 1 end, he draws batters into a false sense of security, he allows u to attack at the other end. Make no mistake Sammy is a good bowler( check record), he gets crucial wks at critical times. And his bowling is vital in the shorter versions of the game. Our attack is quite adequate, once properly utilized. Regarding our spin attack remember u don't take sand to the beach,Shane,Bishoo & Samuels r just fine.

  • on November 4, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    Marlon Samuels is the best batsmen in the current squad let him to play at no 3 or 4 to spend more time at crease

  • bigrishi on November 4, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    congrats windies.....having said that it is important to put this win in context. this is bangladesh, ranked below us. not so long ago this series would have been considered a warmup for the series against india. i have no problems with the players, but the best side should be playing. i think that the wicb should realize that the game is bigger than the player, even that the game is bigger by far than the individuals concerned with cricket. by statistics sammy deserves a play, but so does gayle...

  • PaddyRasta on November 4, 2011, 2:28 GMT

    @cricchic Please suggest a true allrounder and do not say Dwayne Bravo - I have nothing against the man but let's face it, he has been woefully out of form. In the recent 50 over regional comp he averaged 16 with the bat and did not bowl. Russell may develop into one but he isn't really at Test level yet. The cupboard is bare. Sammy is there as a specialist bowler - end of story. And he brings much needed leadership, work ethic and motivation and gels these talented players together as a Team. No disrespect to them, but this is something Gayle, Sarwan, Lara etc did not achieve. it is not an ideal situation but there's no point complaining without suggestions of a viable solution or alternative for allrounder or captain.

  • Metman on November 3, 2011, 22:52 GMT

    @Ryan Ramdin !Why are you so negative man?Is it because WI won the match with only one trini on the team ? If my memory serves me correct,didn't we beat England without any trinis as well ? John Duch was absolutely correct when he said you trinis want WI to do bad under Sammy !My prediction has come to pass !The WI needed Bajan stability at the top , a Bajan fast bowler firing in the bowling attack,and a Guyanese spinner taking wickets.As I keep saying,and as Garner said,Roach needs to be more agressive.He again appears to be just running in,and bowling.The WI need Edwards,Roach and Taylor as their pacemen,and Barath,and either Brathwaite or Powell as the openers.

  • todobless on November 3, 2011, 21:47 GMT

    1)Simmons, 2)Gayle, 3)Kirk 4)Bravo, 5)Chanders, 6)Samuels, 7)Dwayne/Russell/Pollard 8)Ramdin/Baugh, 9)Bishoo, 10)Rampaul, 11)Edwards. 12)Narine 13)one of the all-rounders...14)/Roach 15)Barrath.

  • Alexei on November 3, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    I would just like t point out at this time tht Gayle as captain is the best thing for the team. The only reason why the WICB doesnt want him to be captain is bcuz he is outspoken (they made their displeasure known at him being named captain of the Jamaica team) He is the best captain WI have had for some time now and the stats will show his performaces have been lifted since appointed captain. Under his leadership we have pulled out impressive victories. No one would have expected that 1-0 series win against a team of England's calibre..and we did well to hold on to that win. When Gayle is named captaincy once again, then u will see maximum performances from thside. Also, i would like to say, Sammy's stats merits his place in the team as he has the best average and S/R ..its just his batting needs to start firing and everyone will be off his back.

  • Mayfield on November 3, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    Response to Ryan Ramdin. How does one get experience? The WI team might indeed have boys, but in time they will grow to be men. Garfield Sobers, Richards, Marshall, Roberts, Lara, et al, all started just like the present crop started. As the great Clive Llyod said, they are 15-20 young cricketers that are going to be the future of WI cricket and will go on to do great things. It does not happen overnight. With the right guidance and the right mindset, WI cricket will gradually get better. I believe, Gibson and company are moving the team in that direction.

  • IPSY on November 3, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    "After several upheavals, changes in leadership, .....it fell to a young team to give Caribbean cricket a rare sniff of success" (Isam, M.2011). I think a quotation like this in this article only helps to insult the intelligence of the knowledgeable cricketing public, as it relates to the real situation in WI cricket in recent times! I'm almost sure the whole world knows that the turmoil in WI cricket in the past decade and a half, still very much exists; but these freak wins come occasionally - It has nothing to do with any changes in personnel, as the writer seems to want to suggest. In fact, the last time WI won a creditable series was under Chris Gayle in 2009, against England, the world's current No.1 team. But that said year, when Bangladesh toured WI and Gayle was absent and Sammy played, Bangladesh whitewashed WI 2 games to nil. But on their last tour to Bangladesh, when Sammy was absent and Gayle played, WI white-washed Bangladesh 2 games to nil. Hence, just a usual rare win!

  • on November 3, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    Wait till the India series starts on Sunday. That will most definitely separate the men from the boys...and inevitably there will be a lot of boys being found out within this current West Indies side.

  • cricchic on November 3, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    People commenting on this article as if West Indies best the World #1 team..The TnT Team would probably beat BD.Yes a win is a win..but come on guys its BD. Until W.I beat Inida and England we will still be at the bottom of the Charts...get the best 11 on the field we will continue along this vein..Sammy is a passionate cricketer, but he does not have what it takes to be a match winner. Every time Sammy plays we go a bowler or batsman short..Test Cricket is about taking 20 wickets..Sammy is a contain bowler that will lead to drawn test and not test victory...I am not a Sammy hater, but I love cricket more...For India we need 2 spinner 2 spacemen and an all rounder like who can thrown in some overs...where is Sammy in this mix..can anyone tell me...

  • rayinto on November 3, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    I am happy we won a test. But let's guard against complacency. Its only 1 test. Lets win 4-5 tests - a winning streak. Only then, I can conclude that our leadership is supremely responsible. I wonder who was responsible when we were losing all those years!

  • on November 3, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    Am I hearing correctly? WI is the world's No1 team again? Congrats boys - keep that spot for the next decade and a half, as did our 'Invincibles' of the 80s! The outrageous sentiments being expressed about a full strength WI team beating "BANGLADESH", the world's lowest ranked test team, by one game to nil, expose the current sad state of cricket in the WI! But, it also shows that WI fans 'only remember their last meal'; as this win comes only a few days after the said Bangladesh bowled out WI for a paltry '61' and won the last ODI; then outplayed them convincingly in the first test match - rain being WI saviour! In fact, I think the tone of this article is more a mockery of the management of cricket in the WI, rather than the result of a change in personnel. Bangladesh is by no means any yardstick by which cricketing competence can be measured. Our last good test series win was in 2009 under Gayle against England, the world's current No.1 team. Bang lost 2 nil on WI last tour there

  • Mayfield on November 3, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    For all the naysayers and the ones who keep asking for the return of players who refused to sign central contracts, the WI team is going in the right direction. They have some young players who seem to have the right temperment-Bravo, K. Edwards, Simmons, Brathwaithe and Keiran Powell have the potential to develop into quality players. Roach, Rampaul, Bess, Holder, Gabriel and Russel are young fast bowlers with great potential. Bishoo, Shillingford and Narine look good.With all of this talent and developing the right mentality and professionalism, the WI should do well in the future. All the naysayers will jump on board when these elements work together to make a formidable WI team. Gibson and co. are moving WI in the right direction, no matter what the naysayer might say. The proof will be in the pudding.

  • phendel on November 3, 2011, 12:55 GMT

    great performance....although against BAN but u still have to go out & win....& if u look at WI rare wins against high ranked teams its been on the backs of great individual performances like Jerome Taylor's spell against England etc......this current team excels because everybody had a part to play.....ppl expected Chanderpaul & Samuels to be the standout yet guys like Bishoo, Bravo, Edwards & company all did it....AS A TEAM.....thats what gonna win them matches.....because everyone is trying & is rallying around their captain......good luck to the guys and hope they continue this form

  • windiesyouth.12 on November 3, 2011, 12:37 GMT

    sammy seems to have respect from the players, but as redneck points out with his reference to what samuels did in jamaica, there is no better leader than gayle for this wi team....with sammy in the team,the balance is off e.g., when wi go to india and want to play two spinners, two of roach, edwards and rampaul will have to be rested or a batsman will need to be dropped

  • redneck on November 3, 2011, 10:36 GMT

    i think sammy being captain of the west indies has nothing to do with his leadership skills. he is a yes man to the board and puts on a positive attitude but adds nothing to the team. also takes up the spot of a real bowler! those saying only sammy could have lead to a win in bangledesh, get real its bangledesh! anything other than a win should be cause for alarm. gayles captaincy was fine, his media skills may have been found wanting but look at how marlon samuels went straight over to him in the stands after that win in jamaica. sammy managed to lead a side to a solitary test victory in bangledesh thats par for the coarse at best. gayle managed an away test win in south africa under his watch, thats better than sri lanka, bangledesh and zimbabwe have ever managed in their history!

  • on November 3, 2011, 10:17 GMT

    good to see windies coming out..now they are ready for india tour..good bowling attack..windis have a bowling unit which is more potent..twenty wicket taking attack..and fidel edwards is pacy, can reverse also..and if indian team management will keep on selecting players like raina and kohli in test team, then fidel edwards might get a hat trick also..as they cannot play rising delivries..india has got a tough time ahead now

  • on November 3, 2011, 7:19 GMT

    I am not sure what the so called critics from the West Indies are all about. I believe that these are folks that would be critical regardless. Right now any true West Indian supported would be proud of the work that Sammy is doing as a captain. Even if one wants to compare him to Gayle or even Lara, his teams performances are better. I believe that we will the young players in the West Indies excel under the leadership of Darren Sammy. I always thought that he should be picked more often before but he was not getting his chances. Now that he is Captain, I cannot see what the sense in criticizing him other that these folks are not really West Indian supporters. They obviously would like to see him fail but it is not going to happen. West Indies cricket is on its way up and those critics will have to wait for some time to see it come back down. Kraigg Brathwaite, Kirk Edwards, Devindra Bishoo and other young players are going to take this team and produce great results for the skipper.

  • tpjpower on November 3, 2011, 3:50 GMT

    Huge credit has to go to Darren Sammy. Ever since he was made captain, fans have been calling for his head. And yet he has turned a wayward, divided and inexperienced group of players into a team capable of winning. And for all those who rubbish his abilities, look at his record: it's a lot better than many of the Windies' recent picks. He's a good man to have in charge of this side: reliable, modest, determined and supportive. Power to Sammy!

  • on November 3, 2011, 3:41 GMT

    As I predicted. Even if Sammy were to score 50 and take wickets and catches plus win a series, he would still be criticized. Because the one constant is he is small islander. However, the critics can not take away his achievements. His name keeps creeping up in the records. Remember that Bang beat WI in the previous Test Series.

  • Webba84 on November 3, 2011, 2:01 GMT

    @All those people calling for Sammy to go: WI would not have won without him. No, I'm not talking about leadership I'm talking about individual performance. LOOK at the second innings scorecard and tell me who was involved in most of the wickets - bowling, catching and a caught and bowled. And frankly, you cannot underestimate the fact that the young players who played so well did so under his leadership - and would almost certainly not have under Gayle. I was not a fan of WI recently but since Sammy started captaining I'm much more in favor of them because he has something far more important than talent and frankly it is so so so so incredibly frustrating and annoying to me that all you WI fans hate a player and captain who wins your team matches and series. What is wrong with you all?

  • delboy on November 3, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    @Randy...What you are accusing Gayle of started while Lara was around. The WI have gone from a team to be feared; To key individuals to be feared. Hence once those individuals are removed the opposition are buoyed and the WI team sinks to despair. Any team which the WI play against know if Gayle and Chanderpaul god cheaply the rest of the team cannot perform. As I've said the same used to happen with Lara, Oh! he alone will score 500, or 400 when he failed no one else had the metal unlike the Haynes, Greenidge , Richards, era when opposition team would rather bowling at Haynes and Grennidge than see Richards walking to the crease before day 4. My point is occasionally individual performances win matches but more often, an all round TEAM performance does. Gayle never had a team. He had himself, a frequently injured Sarwan and Chanderpaul with a revolving door of bowlers. A very unstable team. In fact Gayle needed a white coat he headed many experiments.

  • on November 3, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    A captain needs to earn & maintain his place in a team. In other words, he should merit his place. Sammy hasn't. 59 runs & 4 wickets in two Tests won't cut it. Dwayne Bravo is the man that should be leading the team, but I don't know where his head and heart are. Perhaps captaining the 'A' team will renew his interest. Long term, Kirk Edwards appears to be the man to take over. He takes his cricket seriously, is disciplined, knows the game and certainly earned his place thus far. He even captained his native B'dos a few years back. The selectors picked Edwards to bat long plus score runs and he's done just that.

  • R_Singh1 on November 3, 2011, 1:41 GMT

    To all you Sammy haters, instead of shouting about him taking up a place in the side of a true allrounder, why don't you give a SENSIBLE answer on who would be a better captain? Maybe you prefer Gayle who suddenly refers to himself in the 3rd person? The man has brought heart to the team and a solidity that has not been there for OVER A DECADE! WI does not have the star players of the past anymore. They need to use what talent they have and they need a strong CAPTAIN for this. Get over yourselves and give the man some credit. There will come a time, and Sammy has said it himself, when a more talented cricketer with captain potential will come along. Until then, enjoy the cricket and give your support.

  • Windiesfolife on November 3, 2011, 1:00 GMT

    Oh come on! This is only against Bangladesh.. lets see what they do in India.

  • Stos on November 3, 2011, 0:22 GMT

    The West Indies team seemed to be quite a lot mentally stronger and more disciplined as a team than they have been in past years. Sammy's captaincy also seems to have improved, both in terms of encouraging players mentally and matters such as field placing.

  • Randy_Wilson on November 3, 2011, 0:00 GMT

    @ WI_Memory_Lane yep agree with you, but they had perform Well against India and Pakistan recently. People will go on and say India/Pakistan didnt had there Full strength, well West indies also had mostly new players.

    But i see a positive sight in west Indies, People hate WICB and coach because Gayle isnt playing, but when Gayle played What did West Indies ever achive but Failers after Failers?

  • PaddyRasta on November 2, 2011, 23:59 GMT

    What has been lacking in WI for some time has been a captain that leads, motivates and sets an example (one cannot fault Sammy's work ethic). Gayle did not and the previous captains neither. Sammy is in the Test team as a bowler - end of story. Otherwise they would have picked 4 specialist bowlers and Sammy. WI are playing more like a team now and this is encouraging and some of this credit should go to Sammy. I agree that he may not be the best bowler, but WI needs a leader that can gel together and harness the talent that exists.

  • Randy_Wilson on November 2, 2011, 23:57 GMT

    also i would like to Add, i would love to see Gayle back in the Squad because i am his fan. But if we do bring him back every will depend on him to score all the run, and he failed everyone failed, This happen ALL the time.Currently i really see a Good West Indies Team developing, There Biggest Task is against India in India, If they achieve Successful, which of course is unlike, Since India are unbeatable in Test at Home, Even If we had Gayle it wouldn't make a Difference , WE hardly win a series.If these youngsters played well and Give a Fight to India, Then i would say we don't need Gayle and CO. I dont expect them to Win the series, Even a Draw of a Test match Show that these youngster have the hunger for Cricket. SAMMY TEST CAPTAIN P :10 / W:2 / LT :2 / D: 6 SL, Pak, India, Bang, then Compare this to Gayle as captain Gayle P:23 / W:3 / L:11/ D:9 SA/SL/Aus/NZ/ENG Gayle had the BEST 11 in WI, Sammy had a New 11 team. Yet people say With the best 11, We would Win more match.

  • Randy_Wilson on November 2, 2011, 23:34 GMT

    I agree That Sammy isnt that talented, but You have to give it to him, people who said Sammy didnt do nothing this this Test Match, If you had watch this Test match, Sammy started The Collapse of Bangladesh Batsmen, Hasan and the Captain Both Played, Roach, Bishoo, Samuels and Edward very Well the 5th Morning, That Break through Sammy got change things around for them.

    And to be Honest seriously, Need to think back of What West Indies Have achive, all we got was DISAPPOINTMENT, with or Without Sammy in the Side, Matches lead by Lara, Gayle, Bravo, Sarwan, They all Failed, and us West Indies Fan just cant stand another Defeat, All the time we are in winning position and Lost, We hardly win any series without Sammy, if we do win, we like win one series and Lost 5 others, So i don't see no difference between the old team and this new team, is this Team don't have experience but they are trying there Hardest. WI are Finally playing AS A TEAM and not a ONE MAN show.

  • on November 2, 2011, 23:26 GMT

    I long for the day when WI can return to 3 genuine quicks and a spinner. Sammy doesn't command a place in the team. Good bowling performance so far against under-strength India and Pakistan and bottom-of-the-table Bangladesh...but the attack will struggle against quality teams. Samuels need to scores centuries as well

  • delboy on November 2, 2011, 23:10 GMT

    I would not want to be the MOM adjudicator for this one. This was truly a team performance. Sammy had a shout for calling right at the toss and his second inning bowling spell. I cannot recall in a long while where WI bowl their oppo out without conceding an extra (DISCIPLINE). The initial opening stand in the first innings and Edwards century. Bravo will feel short-changed and rightly so because he should have carried on and finally Fidel Edward's first Inning and Bishoo's second inning bowling. Many performances make a victory unlike individual 317 or 333 which are quickly forgotten by the so call 'SUPPORTERS'. I hope Kirk Edwards can stay grounded and not start thinking TEST cricket is EASY. A MOM award should encourage him not to solely aim at personal achievements but revel in the boast it gives the entire team. If I was the adjudicator I would give the MOM to Sammy not for his personal performance but to share among the team or retain it as a carrot to encourage similar feats.

  • on November 2, 2011, 22:10 GMT

    windies wouldve done better if they actually played with 11 players, sammy have to go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on November 2, 2011, 22:00 GMT

    Put in the same consistent performances against India then I can say we are going somewhere

  • on November 2, 2011, 21:59 GMT

    This was not Sammy's victory. These youngsters played well and deserved the victory; Sammy did not do anything special. In fact her performed with neither bat nor ball and occupied a place that should have been for someone much better. This win was not because of Sammy but in spite of him.

  • WI_Memory_Lane on November 2, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    WI need a true all rounder. Samuels is not a true bowler. In India, they will be in for a rude awakening after their front line bowlers get tired. Hope WI find a true all-rounder who can bat, not just bowl like Sammy. Nice win in Bangladesh, but this is beating a team at the bottom of the food chain. When they beat Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Australia or England in a test series, then we can heap praises on them. In the mean time, the Bangladesh victory is a nice starting point. Come on WI, you just need to believe that you can do it. Put Sammy on WI-A where he belongs. All the best WI, glory days are all up to you and believing in yourselves.

  • on November 2, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    I am not sure this is coming of age but a good performance, On to India

  • cricketdebator on November 2, 2011, 19:52 GMT

    Hello, to all you Sammy distractors!!!! Where are you? What do you have to say now? I am waiting to hear from you. In the meantime, congratulations to Sammy and his team for job well done.

  • ramps_wi on November 2, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    congrats to windies on beating bangladesh, that is good revenge however we are still a bowler short.

  • chesumsne on November 2, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Well done windies youngsters... Hope you continue to mature and master your skills to become a formidable side in the future... Still not too sure about the role of sammy in the squad, but he's done well thus far...

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  • chesumsne on November 2, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    Well done windies youngsters... Hope you continue to mature and master your skills to become a formidable side in the future... Still not too sure about the role of sammy in the squad, but he's done well thus far...

  • ramps_wi on November 2, 2011, 19:28 GMT

    congrats to windies on beating bangladesh, that is good revenge however we are still a bowler short.

  • cricketdebator on November 2, 2011, 19:52 GMT

    Hello, to all you Sammy distractors!!!! Where are you? What do you have to say now? I am waiting to hear from you. In the meantime, congratulations to Sammy and his team for job well done.

  • on November 2, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    I am not sure this is coming of age but a good performance, On to India

  • WI_Memory_Lane on November 2, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    WI need a true all rounder. Samuels is not a true bowler. In India, they will be in for a rude awakening after their front line bowlers get tired. Hope WI find a true all-rounder who can bat, not just bowl like Sammy. Nice win in Bangladesh, but this is beating a team at the bottom of the food chain. When they beat Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Australia or England in a test series, then we can heap praises on them. In the mean time, the Bangladesh victory is a nice starting point. Come on WI, you just need to believe that you can do it. Put Sammy on WI-A where he belongs. All the best WI, glory days are all up to you and believing in yourselves.

  • on November 2, 2011, 21:59 GMT

    This was not Sammy's victory. These youngsters played well and deserved the victory; Sammy did not do anything special. In fact her performed with neither bat nor ball and occupied a place that should have been for someone much better. This win was not because of Sammy but in spite of him.

  • on November 2, 2011, 22:00 GMT

    Put in the same consistent performances against India then I can say we are going somewhere

  • on November 2, 2011, 22:10 GMT

    windies wouldve done better if they actually played with 11 players, sammy have to go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • delboy on November 2, 2011, 23:10 GMT

    I would not want to be the MOM adjudicator for this one. This was truly a team performance. Sammy had a shout for calling right at the toss and his second inning bowling spell. I cannot recall in a long while where WI bowl their oppo out without conceding an extra (DISCIPLINE). The initial opening stand in the first innings and Edwards century. Bravo will feel short-changed and rightly so because he should have carried on and finally Fidel Edward's first Inning and Bishoo's second inning bowling. Many performances make a victory unlike individual 317 or 333 which are quickly forgotten by the so call 'SUPPORTERS'. I hope Kirk Edwards can stay grounded and not start thinking TEST cricket is EASY. A MOM award should encourage him not to solely aim at personal achievements but revel in the boast it gives the entire team. If I was the adjudicator I would give the MOM to Sammy not for his personal performance but to share among the team or retain it as a carrot to encourage similar feats.

  • on November 2, 2011, 23:26 GMT

    I long for the day when WI can return to 3 genuine quicks and a spinner. Sammy doesn't command a place in the team. Good bowling performance so far against under-strength India and Pakistan and bottom-of-the-table Bangladesh...but the attack will struggle against quality teams. Samuels need to scores centuries as well