West Indies in Bangladesh 2012-13

West Indies facing all-round problems

West Indies have some tricky issues to solve as they try to keep themselves in the one-day series with their preference for a host of allrounders not bringing success

Mohammad Isam

December 3, 2012

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Darren Bravo cuts behind point, Bangladesh v West Indies, 1st ODI, Khulna, November 30, 2012
No West Indies batsman has yet to post a half-century in the one-day series © Associated Press
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West Indies' decision to stick to a single plan in the one-day series against Bangladesh has made them overlook two important facets of the limited-overs game. They haven't paid heed to current form and the importance of risk-free middle-order batting while at the same time have indulged on an overdose of similar skilled allrounders.

West Indies lost both ODIs in Khulna, the second by a record margin against Bangladesh of 160 runs. The two defeats inflicted on the visitors have completely changed the atmosphere of the tour following the Test victories and as West Indies moved to Dhaka on Monday morning issues were piling up at their feet.

Lendl Simmons' form is the first of those problems. He has partnered Chris Gayle at the top of the order in the first two games and has had scores of 13 and 9. His last ODI fifty came a year ago but more importantly he has been through a poor time in this format. Since the fifty in India he has averaged below 10 in nine games with a highest of 36. Kieran Powell may take his place and could have justified a place in the side at the start of the series after his two centuries in the Dhaka Test. Though he has since had four low scores he would freshen up the top order.

"Throughout the Test series we had a lot of performances coming from the younger players," Darren Sammy said. "The Bravos, Powells, Ramdin, young Permaul and all the guys have done well. Cricket is a team game and you have to perform together. Obviously you have days when some individual had a brilliant moment and gets the Man-of-the-Match, but at the end of the day it takes a total team effort to win games."

Sammy, though, credited Bangladesh's plans, particularly their bowlers' confidence when responding to boundaries. "I think everybody would want to go out there and perform and I believe every single batsman goes out there to perform for West Indies. Credit to the way the Bangladesh team has bowled.

"They have a plan for every batsman. Gazi, Razzak and Mashrafe stuck to the plan. Even though we hit a couple of boundaries you see them executing properly. That's where we are lacking. We are not executing our plans well. So far Bangladesh have seized the moment."

The lack of runs from Gayle, Darren Bravo and Marlon Samuels has also hurt West Indies' chances. Gayle hasn't made up his mind on whether to start slowly or blaze away while Sohag Gazi has had the better of the in-form Samuels in both games. Bravo hasn't done justice to the range of shots he possesses and his ability to play spin bowling in this series by giving away two starts. The early dismissals of Samuels and Bravo against spin have also impacted the rest of the batsmen who have still some way to go when dealing with spinners.

"We have not rotated the strike against spin as much as we could over the last few years. But we get better at it when we spend time at the crease," Sammy said. "So far none of our batsmen have done so. In order to score runs you must be present at the crease."

There are also issues around the balance of the side with a preference for allrounders, such as Andre Russell and Dwayne Smith, ahead of specialist quick Kemar Roach. Russell, Smith and Darren Sammy took one wicket between them in the second match while none of them have made the sort of contributions expected from them with the bat, especially under the new fielding restrictions.

The continued struggle of Sunil Narine has been the other setback while in the opposition Razzak and Gazi thrived in Khulna where the wicket offered turn. It would not be a huge surprise if Veerasammy Permaul, the left-arm spinner, replaced Narine for the remaining ODIs.

Sammy has a tough task ahead of him, both in selecting the right personnel and in making sure the attitude is right. West Indies are running out of time and defeat in this series would be a blow to their growing reputation as a returning force in world cricket.

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent

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Posted by jimbond on (December 5, 2012, 15:35 GMT)

Why is there talk of dropping Dwayne Smith and Russel, when Sammy remains immune to any criticism of lack of cricketing skills. And why is Dwayne Bravo not in the team? Is he injured, or out merely because he has 'similar' skills to Sammy. As far as I remember Dwayne Bravo used to be a good enough bowler to always bowl his quota and was also among the most reliable batsmen in the team.

Posted by simonviller on (December 5, 2012, 2:22 GMT)

One million men ,one million selectots ,one million experts , one million critics !!! Each one thinks he is right ,each one want's his favorite player in !! I am tired of it !!! I must go clear my mind of this confusion amongst WI fans .

Posted by   on (December 5, 2012, 1:30 GMT)

last two writers are totally correct WHAT HAPPEN TO SHIV i would bet my last dollar was he around the story would have been different ,Cricket is a team sport not one man ,but Shiv would have guide the middle order .Next why only one specialist bowler what happen again to edwards,roach we need a good four prong attack this is 50 overs not 20/20.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 22:49 GMT)

If you weren't going to play Chanders[he deserves to rest in the 50 overs] Why send home Deonarine, he is a good batsman allround cricket who needs to play, he needs to be in the middle.Why Is Best not on the team, his bowling for the tour has been outstanding, he is at the stage of his career where you can get the best out of him,the only matches i'd sit Best out of are the 20/20s.Sammy does not have to be the cpt. of all formats of the game, he is underperforming,Marlon can cpt. the team,he will come out tonight as the leader.Please stop naming Pollard as vice captain; Also retain Simmons in the team along with Smith,Sammy need to sit out the next match.Smith & Simmons are excellent cricketers who will rise to the challenge along with Bravo & Samuels.The WINDIES must learn to win without Chanders, The big guns must perform, they must lead from the front.

Posted by QTS_ on (December 4, 2012, 20:15 GMT)

@Richard Jerome: I agree that the Windies pace attack would be better suited for the rest of the series, not because of the pitches, but because they are better bowlers than the spinners. I would have opted for Edwards and/or Best (taking into account his inconsistent line). However, restricting Bangladesh below 100 is equivalent to swagger. Even then, the question of accuracy remains, given the large number of wides conceded. Also note that the batting needs to be strengthened too.

Posted by QTS_ on (December 4, 2012, 20:07 GMT)

@ Windies Fans: It is frustrating to be on the receiving end of big defeats (the Bangladesh fans know very well!), but do take notice of the meek displays by the Windies players. Apart from Rampaul, no bowler had any significant impact. Not one Bangladesh player was bowled, LBW or caught behind. In fact, there was not even a decent nick from any Bangladesh batsman. And then there is the capitulating batting line up. Therefore, an objective fan ought to admit the poor performance of the Windies team. Everyone knows that they are better than what they have demonstrated so far, but without credible performance, the match results deservedly go to Bangladesh.

Posted by ablushali on (December 4, 2012, 18:39 GMT)

Has anybody noticed that Bangladesh has already gone above New Zealand in ICC ODI ranking? WHo knows, if they win the series against WI, they may go above WI? Still people think BD is a minnow? How ignorant people could be?

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

WI need to be ruthless they have been seeking to compete and or defend. Gayle & Smith should open so smith can attack early and Gayle can settle. An all pace attack with a bodyline attack will give WI the edge they need

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (December 4, 2012, 15:37 GMT)

Check out this scorecard to show you how different our Bangladesh team is since some of you fans still think our team of today is still the team of 2000-2005 period http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh/engine/match/66203.html

Posted by PlayerXI on (December 4, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

First Darren Sammy should be thrown out of the WI side... can't bat properly neither can bowl his full quota of overs... fields ok... why is he there in first place??????????

Posted by Heisenburg on (December 4, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

Sammy cannot take a batsmans place in the side, especially when the wicketkeepers batting is poor.

Posted by godfreyse on (December 4, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

Someone once said that Common Sense is genius dressed in working clothes. Now let's c. Bangla attack is spin base. We r in the Subcont. Guyanese players r the best players of spin in WI cricket(estab fact). Pollard, Smith, Russell, Sammy, don't have a clue, when it comes to playing spin. And guess what? Fudadin and Deonaraine r in Guyana. Deonaraine is a better player of spin than anyone presently on display. Deo has a S/R of 69+( ODI), not bad for the top order. Don't forget Shiv is 70+ and Kallis(SA) is mid 70s. And add this one, Deo would have done much better than Sunil with the ball, trust me. Well the article said it all. TOO LATE, TOO LATE, SHALL BE THE CRY.

Posted by Fogu on (December 4, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

It is interesting how some WI fans are not giving credit to BD. After losing two games by large margins, you would think they would show some humility and give credit where credit is due. In two games combined WI have not taken 10 BD wickets. These are fair pitches that help both sides. BD has outplayed WI and outclassed them in the ODI series so far. WI is a good team and can still come back and win the series but it will not be easy. Great series so far.

Posted by shanto892 on (December 4, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

@ bluefunk.......bangladesh played the 1st odi of this series after 8 months, so how can u say they play this format of game more often thats why they did better......!!!

Posted by estraker on (December 4, 2012, 10:23 GMT)

I have been saying from the beginning that narine has not proved himself to be considered the type of bowler that sammy and the manager thinks We need to find a captain who understands the game. When was the last time that Smith bowl? Sammy you do not Know what you are doing.

Posted by Third_Gear on (December 4, 2012, 9:52 GMT)

Richard Jerome @ What a Suicide....playing 4 fast bowlers mean reducing batsmen and it gonna weaken the batting lineup which is already reeling. So WI has the chance of being all out for 50 runs, due to tremendous form of BD bowlers like Gazi,Razzaq,Mashrafi and according to your calculation BD could make 100 runs only,SO THE result could be BD win by 50 runs..HURRAY.... BD 3 - 0 WI you lost the series. SO dont delay HURRY up get all your fast bowlers IN to see if its a BANGLA-WASH series or not !!!!!

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 9:11 GMT)

Gibson, Seletors, Sammy and the rest of the West Indies team who are selected for the third match is in a 'do or die' situation. I have said it many times, the public said it too. WI do not mis judge or make mistakes in selection. WI selection runs on th 'buddy buddy' system of selecting and not talents. They are in a situation now that they cannot and they are scared to try the new players on tour. WI blanked Chanderpaul for no reason. They deny Sarwan a return, they sent home Deonarine, they orchestrated the downfall and drop Bishoo with intent. You do not need a pair of spectacles to see this. Someone needs to tell the big guy Gayle to stay in the crease and bat. Is Dwayne Bravo still injured? When will WI decide to field a second ODI team and a separate captain. For the remaining series, play three or four fast bowlers with one spinner. The batsmen MUST bat. The wicket keeper MUST bat, or again WI 20/20 win will go down as a fluke. Sammy must switch his bowlers more on both ends

Posted by everfaithful77 on (December 4, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

This WRITER'S RIGHT ON THE MONEY and I hope the West Indies team mgt incl capt SAMMY take full note of everything he said. He has correctly summed up WI current problems and these are points I've been bringing up for a very long time but no one took heed until now. Now everyone's clamoring for Chanderpal. QUESTIONS for SELECTORS/COACH: 1.Why was CHANDERS sent back home instead of keeping him to cover for Dw Bravo who is still recovering at home ? He would have played a vital role in steadying the middle order and is in excellent form. 2.Why was SIMMONS who's in poor form & obviously lacking in confidence preferred ahead of POWELL who's in excellent form ? SUGGESTIONS: Let POWELL open with Gayle; replace SMITH who's at sea vs spin bowling with ROACH who's our fastest bowler; PERMAUL should replace NARINE who hasn't been successful in BD in either format. Team: Gayle, Powell, Bravo,Samuels, Pollard, Russell, Devon, Sammy, Rampaul, Permaul, Roach. MORE COMMITTMENT IS REQUIRED TO WIN.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 7:56 GMT)

Seriously Jerome??You think playing 4 fast bowlers would restrict us within 100?? I dont understand why you guys are so hesitate to give Bangladesh some credit for their performance. After a victory of 160 runs margin it surely presents the class of Bangladesh team . So they have earned their respect. I think WI must come with passion and confidence if they think they have any chance of winning the series or even denying white wash . And as for the news references it seems WI players were never serious after their 1st defeat,at least it wasnt seen in their practice sessions. To say the least, I dont think even playing 5 fast bowlers would be any easier to defeat Bangladesh. Then bet is on..

Posted by nipuewu on (December 4, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

Actually I cant realize that why wi cricket board continuing with sammy.he cant perform.I think he is playing as a captain only nothing else.he is not a good player.suddenly he does well,but that is not perfect.a captain needs to perform from the front.i think wi board urgently needs to declare sammy out.coz he is destroying a place.someone is there to be the perfect captain and be a front desk performer.wi please play well.we are not getting interest by watching matches.make fighting then loose.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 7:36 GMT)

west indies needs to depend on the fast bowlers. no way they can make any impact with spin. bangladeshi batsmen are one of the best in spin. so best of luck with spin or medium pace

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 7:27 GMT)

@ Richard Jerome, understoooooood BD can't score 100 while you play 3 seamers. Understood..... But what about WI Bantsmen???? What's wrong with them? Your every answer is in last two matches score card mate. Have a look on them again. DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE anyone...

Posted by tisra on (December 4, 2012, 6:54 GMT)

@Richard Jerome :: Now you are underestimating BD....100?

Posted by Rezwan1492 on (December 4, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

Those of you think Bangladesh will suffer bouncers if 3 pacers are used.. Of course they may in the first game, but the next one they won't.. It's not just bowling, WI is lacking way lot in batting as well.. They need to improve both bowling and batting in order to create some competition now. Last year Bangladesh lost the series, so WI watch out, we will not spare you this time...

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

Don't forget, this Bng team whitewashed NZ 4-0, beat India and Sri-Lanka in Asia cup and almost beat Pakistan (became Asia cup runner-up). They all have quality pacers / spinners. Its all about self-belief, confidence, application and team-effort.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 4:34 GMT)

The ODI series in Bangladesh once again puts the writing on the wall of the ever present problem in WI cricket-THE LACK OF MAN MANAGEMENT. This westindian team is the most talented ODI team in the world, but poor management and tactics by the coaching staff n the 'wise' captain Darren Sammy Cost them 2 matches at the expense of Blangladesh. Here are egs of waht in speaking about. 1. B'gdeshi batsman cannot handle fast bowling n the short ball, but yet stil, WI will never opt to play 3 out n out fast blowers, y cant Edward, Roach n Rampaul all play in a match? Is that a crime? If this occurs, I can bet u blangladesh will not even score 100. Look at d difference in d bowling power play when Russel n Rampaul were bowling, Musfiq n his pather were at sea 2. WI NEEDto manage Narine. Narine has played too much cricket of late n needs a break 2 regain his focus. U cant have him playin in all d major T20 tournaments around d world, Test, ODI n T20I games. Take a page frm Andy Flower WI

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 3:58 GMT)

What happennd to Best and Edwards who broke the back of the host batting during the test matches. when ever we win the fast bowlers did it. The host is making too much runs for our batting team that is not making much runs. A white wash is coming if there is no psoitive change in this next match.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 3:33 GMT)

W.I team made one big mistake! They underestimated BD

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 3:01 GMT)

Chanderpaul, king of spin should not be overlooked. Don't forget his 69- ball vs the Aussies.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (December 4, 2012, 2:46 GMT)

The side is unbalanced. I've been saying it for a while. Two PROPER opening bowlers are required. Too many bits and pieces players. Anything more than a 20 over game and they're going to struggle.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 2:21 GMT)

@Zillur Rahman, Please dont misjudge Isam. Its one kind of awareness. If Bangladesh think they can win easily beat West Indies then they surely will do the wrong though spin flicks. So, Always be careful until we get the result in our favor. Tigers, Win the series first then think about Bangla Wash.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 1:14 GMT)

I have no comments just waiting for series win.BD shouldn't give chances West Indies to overcome this disaster. Any way has to win next match. If WI will win next match, BD would be big trouble to win this series. I grantee you West Indies are having big pressure .So BD XI cricketers, if they show their perform 70% of last two games how the way they performed In-Shaah- Allah we will win 3rd ODI. Possible take Shafiul for Raju.BD batsmen should more focus on short ball, bouncy and learn promptly for handling.so waiting for series against full strength team who just won the WC. Everybody BD XI takes extra responsibility and don't depend one another or don't compare one another. You guys pride of us. Good luck to you.

Posted by tappee74 on (December 4, 2012, 0:44 GMT)

It all happens when you have porous leadership.The entire executive body needs to go. Why is Shivnarine Chanderpaul not in the team?With 11 hundreds,59 fifties,an avg:of 41 and a SR of 70 this world class player is not considered for selection.Better yet,he just finished a two test series with an avg:of 354 .What a catastrophy.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 0:16 GMT)

let chanderpaul play in the one day 50 overs game.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 0:08 GMT)

I'm supporting West Indies win or lose. West Indies needs to play spin better

Posted by bluefunk on (December 4, 2012, 0:01 GMT)

ODIs are the one format in which Bangladesh has taken huge strides forward. Is it a coincidence that this is the format they get to play most often?

Posted by UndertheGrill on (December 3, 2012, 23:42 GMT)

You'd have thought that the WIndies batting line up would click at some point in the series, or this will go the same way as the Bangladesh win over NZ 2 years ago.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 23:37 GMT)

I am disappointed in my team... Each and every one of these guys let the entire Caribbean down.

my suggestion

1.Powell 2.Gayle 3.Daren Bravo 4. Samuels 5.Thomas 6. Pollard (i would drop him but there is no replacement) 7.Sammy 8.Permaul 9.Rampaul 10.Roach 11.Holder

Posted by VEXXZ on (December 3, 2012, 23:18 GMT)

WI must first fix the problem at the top. GAYLE and SMITH were the ones that done a rather fine job in the past . Now they put SMITH to bat ( when he do get a play ) any where in the line up . The slow blowers were doing fine and the WI did not bowl GAYLE . Our fast bowlers were all over the shop apart from RAMPAUL . I cannot remember such TRASH by a bowling squad in a very long time .

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 23:09 GMT)

The West Indies need to find the right combination of players. I think Permaul and Narine she should play together and Roach and Rampaul come in. I think Sammy should be dropped. He should remain the Test captain. Let Marlon Samuel captain the One Day and T20 team. West Indies will then be playing 6 batsmen and a wicketkeeper with 4 specialist bowlers and a couple allrounders.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 21:59 GMT)

Zillur Rahman: Mohammad Isam is doing the right thing, he is writing as a neutral sportswriter, and not being a biased cheerleader. I actually applaud that.

Posted by clikstertech on (December 3, 2012, 20:36 GMT)

Windies think that they don't need Chanderpaul for the One Day, they all think that he is too slow of a batter? is he... maybe he is but they NEED him, they cant even bat a full 50 overs! I SAY BRING BACK THE TIGER!!

Posted by Nur_nsu on (December 3, 2012, 20:25 GMT)

3rd ODI will be the real test for Bangladesh team. A real test of temperament and maturity as a team. If they can pull it, they really got better at this level. Tino and Permaul will come for sure. We need to plan accordingly and need to be sharpest ever. Wishing all the best! Let's fight hard and win this.

Posted by BD_CricFan on (December 3, 2012, 19:42 GMT)

Tigers! please don't be complacent. Prepare hard then execute even harder to win the series clincher this Wednesday.Good Luck.

Posted by mohamedamin on (December 3, 2012, 19:34 GMT)

Narine and Simmons under pressure....Sammy is not performing.....he should sit a the remainder of the series....The squad needs more accomplished batsmen and bowlers....

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (December 3, 2012, 19:29 GMT)

If Tamim and Gayle doesn't then the game is over. Bangladesh made the mistake of preparing flat decks for tests otherwise Bangladesh would've easily won the test series.

Posted by PACERONE on (December 3, 2012, 19:25 GMT)

The West Indies selection format has been silly for many years.Now that they have players that can make a difference they are not used.How many times do we have to watch Russell been knocked around before been replaced.Russell,Sammy,Smith,Pollard and Bravo are interchangeable.None of these guys put fear into batsmen,and they have problems with the turning ball.Dwayne might be the only one capable of playing as a batsman.Powell got out during the test playing loosely.This should of been corrected by the coach and he should of been opening with Gayle instead of Simmonds.The young tall fast bowlers should be given a chance.Some have proven that they are capable.Players who are bowlers first should be given a chance to play.We have Benn,Shillingford and Bishoo as spinners.Holder,Johnson,Pascal and Shannon as fast bowlers.We are the only nation that has one captain for all formats.Is that why our field placings cannot cut off so many fours.Lets get with the program,Rest some players.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

I think all of the people have forgotten that we have beaten WI in 3 successive matches.Can we remember what happened in Chittagtong???I think it will be difficult for minnow WI to come back from the position they were right now.Who ever playing like Roach or Permaal will not make any kind of difference in the 3rd ODI in shal allah.But i want to say be carefull tigers.In shal allah if u can stick with ur basics then u can casily make it happen in the 3rd ODI.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 19:12 GMT)

why would they send home their best batsman?shiv chanders should be a permanent batsman in both test and one dayers.Atleast they would have batted all 50 overs.

Posted by nitol143 on (December 3, 2012, 19:11 GMT)

Exactly same thing I wrote in the preview of second game that Sammy or Russel. Surprisingly they kept both and added smith with them. They should include Powell instead of Smith to strengthen their batting and Permaul for Russel. I believe Naraine deserve another chance. But obviously Ramdin needs to be back. Sammy did talked about the performance of Powell, Permaul and Ramdin then why is he stepping into field without them???

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 3, 2012, 18:58 GMT)

@ExtremeSpeed: lol I heard Pollard was saying that as well! he worked so hard for that 25 because he knew if he didn't back up his words with the bat he had to regret it and then he got out by Naeem. I just hope Bangladesh can clinch this series now so we don't have to hear or read "excluding' Zimbabwe and BANGLADESH as often. I can see the Cricketing future of Bangladesh and believe me it looks soo good if you're a Bangladesh fan. They will be playing in the first match of the World T20 Championship in 2014 I can see.... :)

Posted by Neeta on (December 3, 2012, 18:45 GMT)

I know these are exciting times in WI cricket with a World T20 win in tow but I must say they were too complacent they they only need to turn up and they would beat Bangladesh. Although WI has great power hitters and when it comes off, it looks great and when it doesn't then we have already seen the result. Stability is the need of the hour. I don't know much about their cricketing circle but can safely say that Chanderpaul and Sarwan were treated quite unfairly. These guys maybe don't fit into the scheme of things now given they are slow scorers and the fast paced nature of the ODI's these days. If I was the selector, I would have asked one of them, preferably Sarwan as he is younger than Chanderpaul to open the batting with Gayle as it provides the WI team much needed stability. Remove Thomas and bring Ramdin and as Narine has been decoded by Bangladesh, bring Permaul in place of him. The destructive all rounders need to be persisted with as they can change the course of the match.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 18:41 GMT)

BD looks very strong against W Indies, without BD best Player SHAKIB al H, Wednesdays if BD will Bat fast & TAMIM Can Stay Upto 25TH Over BD Scores will go more than 300, when W indies ll come to bat thy be all out Scores 265, 47.4 over. I think BD need change batting line lick. Naeem Islam should Bat no: 6 or 7..not no: 3....no 3 Should come, Mahmudullah or, Mominul Haque, we miss our hitter batsman, Junaid Siddique best of luck BD cricket… Asif

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

The worst thing about next 3 match @Mirpur is the dew factor. This is winter in Bangladesh and as we know the bowling second team will suffer with their spinners due to wet ball(because of dew).Since your strength is spin bowling, then how can you schedule day-night matches in winter??What is the problem with BCB? Im afraid that Bangladesh can get heavily thrashed in next 3 ODI's if they bowl second.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Actually this West Indies team have some great and talented players who can beat Bangladesh in ODIs on their days, I think West Indies played good against the spinners. But Bangladesh should think about something , like i think after a very good recovery there was platform to go for 320+ , and in similar situations Mashrafe should bat ahead of Mahmudullah and Naeem should have no place in the team. Hope Shakib returns and probably Ziaur Rahman/ Aftab Ahmed would do better than Mahmudullah. Not sure though, Nasir should be tougher in number 5.

Posted by The_Amazing_Avenger on (December 3, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

It is not the "Struggle" for Sunil Narine and Chris Gayle,it is Bangladesh who handed them properly..............

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (December 3, 2012, 17:19 GMT)

Narine is no more wonder for World cricket. He's just a burden for Caribbeans in BD. Permaul, Bishoo etc. r far better than him. WI bowling attack seems too ordinary except Rampaul. No wonder an inexperienced & weakened BD without Shakib & with 4 debutantes won by big margins against them.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 17:11 GMT)

after winning the test series, to now look at the WI team..seems like they are lost as to what type of cricket to play, weather they are playing test, 20/20 or ODI...all of the batsmen seems lost ..batsmen seem to want to only hit 4's & 6'...no rotation. bangladesh team is commanding the game..like taking candy from a baby. if they don't wake up this would be 5-0 like captain sammy says but for bangladesh instead of WI. Simmnonds have to sit and watch the game instead of batting....Narrine seem to lost his control ..not sure if selectors trying too much with him in playing him in all forms of the game instead of games that he is top in such as 20/20...i agree with the writer powell & permaul should replace these two guys for the next game.

Posted by BDave on (December 3, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

WI think they're #1 now they have beaten NZ ang Bangla in the past few Months. There is no Consistency in the team's performance. They still Need Chanders to play 50-Overs. Someone to stabalise the Middle. Or better yet, Open with Gayle. So teams finally figured out Narine. No big surprise there! Didn't the selectors see this coming after his performance in the test Series. Permaul is the better option. Or maybe Deonarine with his off-breaks!

Posted by adkum on (December 3, 2012, 16:53 GMT)

Sammy needs to lead from the front. It makes no sense to ask his players to do better when he himself is failing with both bat and ball. No other player let alone captain in modern day cricket has such a poor record of performance and is still retained. His statistics are as follows: ODI - Batting - 84 matches,1000 runs, av 20.83. Bowling - 59 wickets, av 45.45. A highest ODI score of 84 and best bowling of 4-26, a solitary 'fourer' are just not good enough to justify a place in any team. His test averages are marginally better. WI cricket board is not acting in the best interest of WI cricket. Sammy's leadership is not that outstanding that he be retained just for that. He is no Mike Brearley who failed as a batsman but was an astute tactician and retained for as captain on that strength. He led England to victories but was replaced despite that. He was a short term captain. It would be nice to see WI bounce back but I don't think it would happen with Sammy leading the way he is.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

First, I totally disagree with the make up of the team for the ODI series. What we need, are some specialist batsmen, bowlers and fielders. Sammy is captain, so he's in the X1. That would omit Russell. We don't have really quality spinners at this time, so I would use 3 pacers instead. I would use Kirk Edwards in place of Russell. Simmons has failed multiple times at the opening position, so young Powell could be kept in that position. My X1: Gayle, Powell, Samuels, Bravo, Edwards, Pollard, Sammy, Thomas, Roach, Edwards, Rampaul. Fast bowling has always been our strength; even when we had Lance Gibbs. If you look through the history of West Indies success, it has chiefly been accomplished by the effort of our fast bowlers. We don't have spinners to match with spinners from the sub continent. That's why I found it puzzling, that we would open our bowling with either Narine or Samuels. You can count the WI successful spinners on one hand: Gibbs and Sobers; Ramadhin and Valentine.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

Great article Isam, absolutely right what you thinkig, Permaul & Roach could be threat for Bangladesh, But why you writing like this? arn't you BD supporter?why you give the right suggetion to WI?..............But we r confident we win the series Inshallah!

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (December 3, 2012, 15:59 GMT)

If we can beat India and Sri Lanka at Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium and give Pakistan a run for their money then West Indies should be a walk in the park. Even if West Indies do win its how you win? teams above Bangladesh are expected to beat Bangladesh comfortably and that's West Indies need to do otherwise there will be questions whether to label Bangladesh as minnows still. Sammy said 5-0 West Indies before the game started, Pollard said his shot will go all the way to Dhaka or something from Khulna but look what happened? you cannot underestimate this Bangladesh team at the very least anymore. I want to see a 'big' and 'comfortable' West Indies win on Wednesday good luck! :)"

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