West Indies in Bangladesh 2012-13 December 11, 2012

The more we play Tests, the more we'll improve - Tamim

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Tamim Iqbal has renewed the call for more Test cricket for Bangladesh as they go into a three-month break. Their next assignment will be two Test matches against Sri Lanka in March, followed by two more against Zimbabwe in April. In 2012, they've played the least number of Tests in a year since their admission into Test cricket.

Tamim said that the first Test against West Indies, which was their first in eleven months, showed that they know how to play the game but not how to finish a Test match. "If you don't play enough Tests, you wouldn't have an idea of how to play the game properly. Test cricket is all about habits and the more we will play, the more we will improve," Tamim said. "We talk of improvement but the fact is, we have never taken a Test against a better opponent into the fifth day. It is the same as scoring a hundred: if you haven't made one you wouldn't know how it's done.

"Bangladesh were on top for the first four days of the Dhaka Test. We lost it in the final session of the game but we were playing after almost a year. I'm not making excuses for that defeat though. We should have drawn or won that game."

Despite the defeat in the Test series and the one-off Twenty20 against West Indies, Tamim believes that, across formats, this series marked Bangladesh's best effort to date. "It was our best series. We were competitive in the Tests, we won the ODI series and we lost in the T20 after playing our best game," he said. "It was a very positive series for us."

Tamim said he noticed a marked change in the self-belief among his team-mates, particularly captain Mushfiqur Rahim and Mahmudullah who played pivotal roles. The younger players too caught the eye, but the opener warned that the win shouldn't be the end of their cricket education.

"Our biggest gain has been the self-belief among the players, which is very important for a team like ours. We didn't have Shakib [Al Hasan, who was injured], which was a big blow for us. I didn't perform in the ODIs. But our team won because the captain, vice-captain and the younger players doing well.

"We have a lot to improve on though. It doesn't mean we have learned everything by just winning the ODI series. We have a lot of areas to improve on, especially the small things. Our success rate will go up if we stop making those small mistakes."

Personally, Tamim expressed his disappointment at not scoring hundreds for yet another year. His last international century was in Manchester in June 2010 and he has made 17 half-centuries since then, including the unbeaten 88 in the one-off Twenty20 on Monday.

"I dream of scoring a hundred every day, but I get out through my fault 75% of the time. I am very disappointed because 50s are not counted at the world level [when identifying] big players," he said. "I have to take myself to the next level, by scoring more hundreds. This is one area where I can improve, though I have to learn it on my own. I have to find out where I am going wrong."

"In the meantime, I have spoken to great cricketers at home and abroad, asked them what I can do after scoring a 50 ... I spoke to [India batsman] Wasim Jaffer a few months ago, about scoring hundreds."

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent

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  • POSTED BY AzAb12754 on | December 14, 2012, 11:42 GMT

    Apart from Sri Lanka I see no reason why Bangladesh can't beat both Zimbabwe and New Zealand in a test series, hopefully the wins will finally come. Also the Zimbabwe series should be raised to 3 test matches instead of 2 but Zimbabwe only has 2 stadiums fit for International games Harare and Bulawayo.

  • POSTED BY ExtremeSpeed on | December 13, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    @Stolid Raymond Gaskin Charisma - What? I doubt these young inexperience replacements of these legends i.e.Jonny Bairstow, Steven Finn, Jadeja whoever of these team would be able to dominate our young experience players like Tamim, Shakib, Mahmudullah, Rahim, etc with ease who between them have played well over 300 ODI matches, over 100 test matches all still young. These young inexperience replacements have not even played anywhere close to our young players but you'll understand in the next 2-3 years what I'm talking about. I can see that Chanderpaul will be leaving soon so big gap to fill from you guys good luck!

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    @subbass...I agree with you! everyone deserves to play Cricket especially the likes of Ireland. For some reason, Test Cricket is like age restricted when watching certain films :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    Again amazing, so England 15 test matches in just this year alone 2012 whereas Bangladesh add the number of test matches of years 2010, 2011 and 2012 but still results in 14 test matches in just 3 years combined something is wrong to me. No need of a test ranking table in my opinion.

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    I did a quick research in the amount on the teams that have played the amount of test matches this year and must say its simply ridiculous and totally agree with Tamim. Tests in 2012:

    England - 15 tests Australia - 11 tests South Africa - 10 tests New Zealand - 10 tests West Indies - 10 tests India - 9 tests Sri Lanka - 8 tests Pakistan - 6 tests Bangladesh - 2 tests Zimbabwe - 1 test

    So what's the point of having a test ranking table when Bangladesh and Zimbabwe don't even play Test Cricket? or are they there just to fill the ranks so everyone will think the world plays Test Cricket or something. Its also impossible for good test teams like Pakistan to ever have a chance of breaking into the top 2 when they don't play nowhere near enough tests as the bigger teams so something is clearly wrong based on these facts.

  • POSTED BY Warm_Coffee on | December 13, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    @Stolid Raymond Gaskin Charism: Gayle failing for 10 straight innings is proof enough just how well Bangladesh for a 'minnow' team played. You're lucky the worlds best one-day all-rounder wasn't playing otherwise the one-day games where we have lost to you would've been won by us because or best player is very experience with both bat and ball especially in that format and that's what cost us these 2 games we have lost in that series otherwise it would've been an embarrassing Banglawash for your team. You beat New Zealand 4-1 in an one-day series earlier but we beat you 3-2 so I don't understand who you think you are telling us what we can and cannot say. We beat New Zealand 4-0 and not our problem they're having big issues right now :)

  • POSTED BY Warm_Coffee on | December 13, 2012, 11:29 GMT

    @Anas Nawaz:- After playing 50 years of International Cricket old Pakistan has still yet to win a series in Australia lol so what's your point? also don't try to twist things I mean how many Cricket matches did Bangladesh play before they got full status? exactly once your Pakistan players are retired then you will see just how weak Pakistan would've become. At least we can safely hold Cricket matches but its your country that's desperately asking Bangladesh to come and play lol glad the rise of Bangladesh Cricket worries you.

  • POSTED BY The_Ashes on | December 13, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    @mihir_nam - That is utterly untrue Bangladesh played Ireland in a 3 match T20 series this year and even invited them for a 3 match ODI series so how is that not support? what did India do for such countries? don't blame Bangladesh its not us that owns or runs ICC. If countries like Ireland or Afghanistan really want to play Bangladesh in an ODI series then all you have to do is ask them.

  • POSTED BY The_Ashes on | December 13, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    @Stolid Raymond Gaskin Charism:- Sour grapes? Yes even I admit teams above Bangladesh and that includes New Zealand are still better than Bangladesh but when all their old talented players are gone then there's a big hole left and that's where things will start to get interesting. The fact is you failed to thrash minnows by an innings in a test match even with all that experience against our young boys, the fact is you lost an ODI series against minnows still having diffuclties to understand? even that T20 game had it not been for the last over heroics of Samauels and drop catches of our wicketkeeper you still would've been in a serious trouble in that game. First get your grounds filled then talk. Bangladesh future in Cricket is much brighter than the West Indies. West Indies had test status in 1926 whereas Bangladesh in 2000 so that's why we're not as good in Test Cricket as of yet but times are no doubt changing but some people are still blind to see it :D

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 8:13 GMT

    There is a popular words for BD batsman when they got out badly "short selection problem". what is it? again and again this is the same problem for BD batsman. As we see that BD batsman loves to play more stokes, it is become easy for opponent team bowlers to make 2 good deliveries in a over because that 2 good delivery gives them wicket. Ex: Tamim weak point is the ball that comes outside off close to his body, he just can not leave those good deliveries and trapped easily.In One day's or T20 he can get back in the match with luck and 50's but in a Test match a wicket is crucial and important also against big innings . Some BD players have problem with short deliveries. Every international players have some weak points but some how they come up and be successful to make big innings. Patience and temperament is the key. before playing Test with top nations these players need good match practices and preparations which will give them more confidence against these odds.

  • POSTED BY AzAb12754 on | December 14, 2012, 11:42 GMT

    Apart from Sri Lanka I see no reason why Bangladesh can't beat both Zimbabwe and New Zealand in a test series, hopefully the wins will finally come. Also the Zimbabwe series should be raised to 3 test matches instead of 2 but Zimbabwe only has 2 stadiums fit for International games Harare and Bulawayo.

  • POSTED BY ExtremeSpeed on | December 13, 2012, 15:55 GMT

    @Stolid Raymond Gaskin Charisma - What? I doubt these young inexperience replacements of these legends i.e.Jonny Bairstow, Steven Finn, Jadeja whoever of these team would be able to dominate our young experience players like Tamim, Shakib, Mahmudullah, Rahim, etc with ease who between them have played well over 300 ODI matches, over 100 test matches all still young. These young inexperience replacements have not even played anywhere close to our young players but you'll understand in the next 2-3 years what I'm talking about. I can see that Chanderpaul will be leaving soon so big gap to fill from you guys good luck!

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    @subbass...I agree with you! everyone deserves to play Cricket especially the likes of Ireland. For some reason, Test Cricket is like age restricted when watching certain films :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    Again amazing, so England 15 test matches in just this year alone 2012 whereas Bangladesh add the number of test matches of years 2010, 2011 and 2012 but still results in 14 test matches in just 3 years combined something is wrong to me. No need of a test ranking table in my opinion.

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 14:57 GMT

    I did a quick research in the amount on the teams that have played the amount of test matches this year and must say its simply ridiculous and totally agree with Tamim. Tests in 2012:

    England - 15 tests Australia - 11 tests South Africa - 10 tests New Zealand - 10 tests West Indies - 10 tests India - 9 tests Sri Lanka - 8 tests Pakistan - 6 tests Bangladesh - 2 tests Zimbabwe - 1 test

    So what's the point of having a test ranking table when Bangladesh and Zimbabwe don't even play Test Cricket? or are they there just to fill the ranks so everyone will think the world plays Test Cricket or something. Its also impossible for good test teams like Pakistan to ever have a chance of breaking into the top 2 when they don't play nowhere near enough tests as the bigger teams so something is clearly wrong based on these facts.

  • POSTED BY Warm_Coffee on | December 13, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    @Stolid Raymond Gaskin Charism: Gayle failing for 10 straight innings is proof enough just how well Bangladesh for a 'minnow' team played. You're lucky the worlds best one-day all-rounder wasn't playing otherwise the one-day games where we have lost to you would've been won by us because or best player is very experience with both bat and ball especially in that format and that's what cost us these 2 games we have lost in that series otherwise it would've been an embarrassing Banglawash for your team. You beat New Zealand 4-1 in an one-day series earlier but we beat you 3-2 so I don't understand who you think you are telling us what we can and cannot say. We beat New Zealand 4-0 and not our problem they're having big issues right now :)

  • POSTED BY Warm_Coffee on | December 13, 2012, 11:29 GMT

    @Anas Nawaz:- After playing 50 years of International Cricket old Pakistan has still yet to win a series in Australia lol so what's your point? also don't try to twist things I mean how many Cricket matches did Bangladesh play before they got full status? exactly once your Pakistan players are retired then you will see just how weak Pakistan would've become. At least we can safely hold Cricket matches but its your country that's desperately asking Bangladesh to come and play lol glad the rise of Bangladesh Cricket worries you.

  • POSTED BY The_Ashes on | December 13, 2012, 11:06 GMT

    @mihir_nam - That is utterly untrue Bangladesh played Ireland in a 3 match T20 series this year and even invited them for a 3 match ODI series so how is that not support? what did India do for such countries? don't blame Bangladesh its not us that owns or runs ICC. If countries like Ireland or Afghanistan really want to play Bangladesh in an ODI series then all you have to do is ask them.

  • POSTED BY The_Ashes on | December 13, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    @Stolid Raymond Gaskin Charism:- Sour grapes? Yes even I admit teams above Bangladesh and that includes New Zealand are still better than Bangladesh but when all their old talented players are gone then there's a big hole left and that's where things will start to get interesting. The fact is you failed to thrash minnows by an innings in a test match even with all that experience against our young boys, the fact is you lost an ODI series against minnows still having diffuclties to understand? even that T20 game had it not been for the last over heroics of Samauels and drop catches of our wicketkeeper you still would've been in a serious trouble in that game. First get your grounds filled then talk. Bangladesh future in Cricket is much brighter than the West Indies. West Indies had test status in 1926 whereas Bangladesh in 2000 so that's why we're not as good in Test Cricket as of yet but times are no doubt changing but some people are still blind to see it :D

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 8:13 GMT

    There is a popular words for BD batsman when they got out badly "short selection problem". what is it? again and again this is the same problem for BD batsman. As we see that BD batsman loves to play more stokes, it is become easy for opponent team bowlers to make 2 good deliveries in a over because that 2 good delivery gives them wicket. Ex: Tamim weak point is the ball that comes outside off close to his body, he just can not leave those good deliveries and trapped easily.In One day's or T20 he can get back in the match with luck and 50's but in a Test match a wicket is crucial and important also against big innings . Some BD players have problem with short deliveries. Every international players have some weak points but some how they come up and be successful to make big innings. Patience and temperament is the key. before playing Test with top nations these players need good match practices and preparations which will give them more confidence against these odds.

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    @obaidulmasum i just want to mention one thing that no one is telling to stop playing international cricket. The point is BD cricket calender is not a busy one and still BCB organize first class competition in a way that it looks like a picnic tournament even last time it was stopped due to DPL and BPL. While in the case of other test nation countries a player comes to the team after playing ample amount of first class cricket experiences. Just looks at Mushfiq, Tamim and Shakib ...how many first class matches they have played together not more than 15. Shakin(8 match), Tamim(5), Musfique(1/2). I am sure if BD play another 8 consecutive test matches with top teams, they can loose in the same way. There is nothing to learn in term of skills for these players only need to know how to build an innings in longer version. Some one is telling that with times they will learn ?Do they learning ? look at Ashraful..after playing 10 years still no hope..such a talent just been wasted..

  • POSTED BY on | December 13, 2012, 0:42 GMT

    So true TAMIM . To be good at Cricket you must play lot's of it .

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 19:37 GMT

    bcb should arrange more first class 4 days matches with australia, england, south africa, west indies and newzeland to there ground. icc should give more matches to BD for increasing there level.bangladesh are not playing much test matches in next two, three years, where top test nations are playing lot of matches.

  • POSTED BY Rezaul on | December 12, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    Tamim is right 100%. If you dont allow a new team to play more games then how do you expect them to be competitive at this level. Look, Australia last played Test in Bangladesh 5/6 years earlier and Bangladesh almost defeated them in Fatulla (Dhaka) untill super Ponting played an exceptional innings in 5th day afternoon to win it for Australia single handedly. So, you have to give them more opportunities to play and to be more competitive.

    However, we cant disagree that domestice cricket (longer version) in bangladesh needs to be revised. It must be more attractive and competitive.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    I like Zifan Hai's comment! Where is the like button! Tamim, Is it the reason to loose just one wicket in an effort that yielded 179 in the only T20I VS WI? I would have loved to see Tamim scored 40 in 20 balls then his 88 which could have helped BD to try for Win!

  • POSTED BY sohan_faisal on | December 12, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    Even India is not allowing Bangladesh to tour their country for a series. what a shame!!!Cricket is only business. I hope at least India will invite us to play a full series.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 10:12 GMT

    after playing 12 years of test cricket and 36 years of cricket bd are still standing at the same point where they started after playing 74 test matches they won only 3 against a minow teams and they still finding positives after every loss...their fans expected lot from there players for eg we saw their fans in the t20 wc when they expected them to win the wc which is a bit harsh and they make their players over rated lyk tamim , shakib , mushfiq , mahmudullah...after winning the series against wi bd players , fans even their prime minister celebrating lyk they won the wc lolz .........@cricinfo plz publish my comment

  • POSTED BY Sadequl on | December 12, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    First of all thanks to Tamim for his speech that he felt efficiency for team's performance. Just wondering why ICC can't take some positive & bold initiate regarding such issues among test countries! If they can make a limitation of test playing countries then they should re-think or re-organize this sort of one handed fixtures which they are having for a long time now. It should be their concern to decide if any country stepped in to this arena, how they should have the exact & equal similar chances & facilities to have matches like other test playing nations. If not then how come we can say they are doing justify to the members equally by holding the power of world cricket! We always say cricket is gentlemen's game & ICC also wants cricket boards to be out of the politician's hand too. So we wish to see they would prove the reality by not looking into the profitability as always for the nations but also for the mass improvement of the cricketing world too.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    In this case BCB should take step to play more test match against Pakistan team in Pakistan including 5 ODI and 3 T20, and PCB won't mind to host them in Pakistan for their International goodwill in entire Cricket world.....Newzealand is may be another choice...

  • POSTED BY obaidulmasum on | December 12, 2012, 8:35 GMT

    I think here some guys just talking some foolish stuff. How can Tamim and co play more first class cricket as an International player? If australian, English players are able to play their domestic cricket? As an International player you have to busy with your international game like oneday, test and twenty 20 and you have to busy with some training session or some concentration camp. Thus all international player missed their domestic competition. If bd board try to bring a window for their national player to give the opportunity for their player to play domestic cricket then BD team missed some international match and lost some millions dollars as a revenue. So do you think such a way BD player able to improve their quality? Either India or Srilanka can't improve their cricket without playing international cricket instead of playing only first class match. So BD deserve more International match because they are an International test team. Discrimination doesn't improve BD's quality.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 7:28 GMT

    I would have been much happier if Tamim had said he wanted to score a hundred because centuries (in general than half centuries) help the team more. I personally don't care if he is counted as a big player or not. If he keeps his country's need as the source of motivation, he is in the right path; He can convert those 50's to 100's; He will eventually become a "big player" at the world level. Playing for personal glory can never act as strong enough source of motivation; To become a great batsman (score runs when the country needs most) from a good batsman, he must completely forget the need to be recognized as "big player at world level", because glory follows great batsmen. They don't run after it. People don't remember centuries, they remember wining moments.

    His 150+ innings against Zim and some other innings came when the team needed most and I hope many more are yet to come from him.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 7:06 GMT

    shortcuts, i think bangladesh should play weaker teams like india and zimbabwe.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    Totally LOVE THIS GUY TAMIM IQBAL. He is such an exciting player to watch. It's good to know that he's still extremely keen on improving as a complete player and he has identified the areas that demands more focus and attention. He's got the right cricketing mindset for sure. The day you think you know it all is the day you go towards a downhill slide and it's comforting to know that the hunger is still very highly potent to master all sides of the coin. This young Tiger has a long to go to prove his true worth and he's working on it very nicely. I still long to see the day he'll prove everyone wrong about the way he plays. Bangladesh is very fortunate to have a player like him. Wish him continued success in his cricketing career. He's already an idle to many of the BD fans and elsewhere including me.

  • POSTED BY subbass on | December 12, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    Be nice to see Ireland given Test status and then a lower division formed comprising themsleves, WI, Banga and one of SL or India. Would shake India up actually for them to be in the lower league of Test matches, so make it the Indians. Then you say one up & one down from each division per 2 years.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 3:21 GMT

    I hope next year in 2013 ICC vice president from BD will take steps for these problems which Tamim mentioned at this press conference. Good luck for new rising power in ODI cricket.

  • POSTED BY Nerk on | December 12, 2012, 3:14 GMT

    It would be good to see Bangladesh play more regular cricket. Certainly, they should play more often against sides such as Zimbabwe, New Zealand and the Windies. However, occasional series at home and abroad against Australia, England and India would only improve their abilities and skills, and improve Bangladeshi cricket allround.

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    No the more Bangladesh and Zimbawe play Test the more Test cricket dies. Bang. and Zim. should focus on ODIs and T20s.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | December 12, 2012, 1:19 GMT

    @Shortcuts on (December 11 2012, 15:01 PM GMT) - Bangladesh really only play 2-test series against the strong teams anyway. I agree though, Bangladesh should be playing 3 Test series home & away against Zimbabwe, & yearly play home & away against NZ & WI - over (2 Tests away & 3 at home). That is very doable for NZ & Zim as they don't have very busy schedules, & should be plausible v WIndies who do tour often. == == == IMO - Tamim is right & wrong about "..If you don't play enough Tests, you wouldn't have an idea of how to play the game properly..." Playing more tests does not straight help you be better. It is the preparation combined with plenty of Tests that help you become better. Unfortunately for Bangladesh, their preparation is usually poor. They don't play enough of their domestic FC cricket. I think it is no surprise (to me anyway), they had a good series (against a good WI side) after their National players actually played in the Domestic FC comp! Hmmmm???????

  • POSTED BY on | December 12, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    Very well said Mr. Iqbal. He really brings up some valid issues. I think Bangladesh needs to work on their fast bowlers,some fast bowling friendly wickets,t20 records and have a good batting coach.Even though they have won the one day series,but that doesn't change the fact that, BD batsmen are heavily exposed against the short balls.it's all about consistent improvements and read the game before of the opponent does. I wish they would have won or drew the first test. Well better luck next time.Go TIGERS!!!

  • POSTED BY kaidranzer on | December 12, 2012, 1:04 GMT

    Some people here are saying that India took 20 years to win their first test match. Have you realized what was happening in India in those years? Freedom struggle! India won their first test 5 years after the freedom struggle. Please don't try to mask Bangladesh's inadequacies by giving 80 year old facts about India.

  • POSTED BY TheRisingTeam on | December 12, 2012, 0:18 GMT

    @Shortcuts:- You are aware that both India and England do not want to host Bangladesh and aren't planning to for some silly reason. England was the team where Tamim scored back to back 100s in England against them but sill for some silly reason, they don't want to see Bangladesh play in England again. India are perfectly fine of hosting New Zealand which has an extremely small population but not their neighbours Bangladesh which has a population of well over a 100 million is something very strange indeed. India are not that great of a Cricket team and I feel these Bangladesh players can easily taken on these upcoming Indian inexperience youngsters. Australia for some reason have not played a test match for 6 years which is of a great surprise to me so I don't understand the purpose of this ftp clearly its a mess for example, England are going to play India in a 5 match ODI series soon but they already played that same series last year where England lost 5-0 so something is wrong.

  • POSTED BY TheRisingTeam on | December 12, 2012, 0:10 GMT

    To be honest Bangladesh for now will be a force to anyone in One-Day Internationals and competitive in T20 Cricket but will admit that a lot of work needs to be done to become a proper test team though there are some improvements now but only little. This Bangladesh full strength and fit ODI line-up can give anyone a run for their money according to me 01.Tamim, 02.Anamul, 03.Mahmudullah, 04.Shakib, 05.Nasir, 06.Rahim, 07.Ziaur, 08.Gazi, 09.Mortaza, 10.Rubel, 11.Razzak. In Test Cricket though, a lot of them lack patience and play careless shots and part of what Tamim says is true, lack of Test Cricket and what one of the Bangladesh commentators says is true that Bangladesh are bread on the diet of One-Day Cricket. If Bangladesh are not playing enough tests then they will always struggle in tests better to solve this now then late.

  • POSTED BY The_Ashes on | December 11, 2012, 23:14 GMT

    Bangladesh has a fantastic Cricket future unlike some, they can easily hold International matches without any problems unlike some, they have a huge support and passionate supporters who turn up in numbers to watch a Cricket match even when Bangladesh are not involved unlike some, and if you've watched the highlights of that T20 match, there was a short interview with the BCB president and he has plans to make Bangladesh succeed in Cricket especially Test Cricket and how to improve. Early in the new year, Bangladesh have 2 franchise based tournaments coming up and after that according to FTP, we have tours to Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and possibly Ireland and later New Zealand which will for once and for all show how far Bangladesh have really come in the World of Cricket and whether they are really minnows or not so I hope you critics are ready to swallow our success good luck you need it can't wait :D :) :P

  • POSTED BY tappee74 on | December 11, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    Tamin,I looked at the entire encounter and concluded that your team's only problem was inexpierence.WI won the test matches solely because of Shivnarine Chanderpaul.Look back and you will see that his experience brought him long innings with runs,he was the backbone of the WI batting that inspired the men around him to click.In his absense they struggled desperately in the one dayers. There is not a lack of talent in your team,Bangladesh have some of the greatest talents.On the 20/20,you have yourselfves to blame.Chasing nearly 200 runs is never an easy encounter,but how do you explain loosing one wicket in an effort that yeilded 179.

  • POSTED BY AzAb12754 on | December 11, 2012, 21:25 GMT

    In the meantime, Bangladesh should be playing plenty of limited overs game be T20 or ODI to keep them busy even if its against associate teams, give our young players a chance and players who are out of form. India are too afraid to face Bangladesh in an ODI series because they know we'll beat them in a series challenge us. Lets make it interesting Bangladesh youngsters v Indian youngsters you can also include Sehweg so Mashrafe can bowl him out again. Tamim,Anamul,Mahmudullah, Shakib,Nasir,Rahim,Zia,Gazi,Mashrafe,Shafiul/Rubel,Razzak is good enough to beat you in a full ODI series. Also Unmukt Chand is overrated our Anamul is much better hope he can score a century within his first 2 ODIs good luck!

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 21:23 GMT

    Some suggestions to BCB. As we all know that if we cry like babies and tell others to come and play then it doesn't look good. First, Domestic first class structure should get top most priority with good pitches all the venues. This season the tournament is finished and our national cricketers got only two rounds of playing opportunity. Some how in the cricketing calender BCB should ensure that they get enough matches to play. Second if for T20, BCB can organize match practice in WI then why not for 3/4 day's game in AUS, IND, SA, NZ, ENG, SL against their A teams. BCB can make teams like BCB eleven A, B with some national players, promising players and send them to get more match practice in their conditions. Third as there is a proposal for franchise based Test tournament. it is very important for BD cricket to make that championship a successful one. I hope BCB will do that for the sake of our cricket.

  • POSTED BY AzAb12754 on | December 11, 2012, 21:14 GMT

    Amazing that it was 11 months since Bangladesh last played a test match and now they got another 3 months gap. How many countries play this amazing format "Test Cricket"? Zimbabwe believe it or not have only played 1 test match this year which was way back in January and their next test series isn't till march next year meaning they would've had a gap of 15 months so something is clearly wrong. No wonder Cricket isn't a world sport and disliked by most countries sadly but true its hard for me to even admit this as a Cricket fan. Also Ireland! you are not better than Bangladesh first beat India, Sri Lanka and West Indies all in the same year then you can have a case you guys are better than us.

  • POSTED BY asadc2003 on | December 11, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    why the Indians talking too much about Bangladesh team????? we are all ready seeing what they r doing against england at there own back yard..........so stop commenting about Bangladesh...............Indian team is lucky as they r not playing test against our team.............the bowling attack that they r having now it will take 12 days to take 20 bd wicket.............

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | December 11, 2012, 20:44 GMT

    Oh dear, Tammin. That is NOT the way it should go. You play more tests to gain improvements, then you will be on the receiving end of some embarrassing losses. The best way to prepare for tests is to have a structured first class program so you are developed BEFORE you play test cricket. This is a grass roots problem & has hampered the Bangers progress in test cricket. They are competitive in ODI & T20, but patience & application is a requirement of tests, both these attributes are not required in the shorter forms. This sort of thinking will stifle Bangladesh test cricket I'm afraid.

  • POSTED BY Warm_Coffee on | December 11, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    Tamim makes a point, if they're not playing test Cricket after longs gaps then they will become uninterested and no Bangladesh player even fans will actually care and that's natural. I agree with shortcuts here, Bangladesh are a full member nation and nations like Australia should not runaway from playing Bangladesh in a test match because the last time they played us in a test match, they almost lost one of the test to Bangladesh so don't be scared Australia or anyone else. Bangladesh could have or should have shall I say won the first test match against the West Indies but lack of test playing time prevented them from achieving that because the last one they played was way back in December 2011 last year to date so you can see.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    Didn't Cricinfo monitor notice Extremespeed said Australia, India, England and South Africa are weaker now because of the retirement of senior players hence implying Bangladesh will beat them just as they implied if they were to beat WI in the T20 they would be the best in the world? Asinine comments I tell you! And lets get one thing clear, Bangladesh never had WI on their toes during the test series. Were we on our toes declaring at 500+ for 4? Bangladesh needs to stick to fanatical screaming because they don't seem to understand what a getable fourth innings chase is. They don't know to read conditions. 245 on that pitch in the fourth innings was a stretch! But I don't expect better of Bangladesh supporters. They live in Lala land.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    Bangladesh needs to stop insulting New Zealand. New Zealand would white wash Bangladesh in New Zealand. Bangladesh also needs to stop comparing themselves to Sri Lanka. Bangladesh has accomplished nothing close to Sri Lanka. I don't see how playing more test cricket will help them improve. Teams play many test and improve and sometimes get worst doing it. It's not a variable related to team improvement. Bangladesh supporters also need to stop swarming Cricinfo. They're like the BCCI of the comment sections. Obsessed and out of control. Bangladesh needs to do what it knows best. Prepare dust wickets that consistently produce low scoring ODI's.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    It's time ICC needs to step in and limit Bangladesh test cricket. They might be improving in ODI and T20 but they are still too week for test cricket. They can probably go for 3-4 days matches with Zim or AFG but not with big teams. They just need to lower their expectations and achieve small milestones before aiming for big ones

  • POSTED BY The_Ashes on | December 11, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    These other teams say "oh look, inviting Bangladesh means that no one will turn up and it will be one sided" but honestly, is that really true? I mean first of all in the New Zealand-West Indies series this year, there were hardly any crowd, in the Australia-South Africa series I saw in the first test match at the Gabba, large empty of seats basically dead quiet even the India-England series that is going on had lots of gaps in their seats so attending wise is not the issue, its embarrassingly losing to Bangladesh which is the issue to me. Even when Bangladesh toured England in 2010, many people came to see the matches especially the ODI games where Bangladesh have actually won. Unlike some teams, Bangladesh are interested in Cricket and can easily fill grounds in seconds well at least for limited over matches. But really what I'm trying to say is that Bangladesh deserve to play many more games at home the least even if its against the top associate teams because there's interest.

  • POSTED BY DylanBrah on | December 11, 2012, 15:45 GMT

    They can't play First Class matches domestically?

  • POSTED BY AzAb12754 on | December 11, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    Yes at the moment, Bangladesh are not better than the top 8 teams and that includes New Zealand but I know for sure that will all change in the next 2-3 years and their Asia Cup and Sahara series was proof of that a preview shall I say of what's coming from this team. I'm sure once the top older experience players of teams i.e. Sri Lanka, Pakistan and India are gone then Bangladesh obviously will find it easy to compete against these teams and no more thrashings for us so yeah I'm happy, looking forward to it. Out of the 4 Asian teams, Bangladesh is the young bunch and Sri Lanka and Pakistan have the oldest. But its good to see India are finally moving forward and blending in their youth but your youth will obviously not dominate our youths. Us Bangladesh fans knew this from the moment the 07 World Cup started where teenage boys back then Tamim, Shakib, Rahim and others beat both India and South Africa. The other International teams apart from West Indies are behind so good luck! :D

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    Losing is a part of the game. Deal with it. But the more you play, the more you learn. There was a time when all the fielders were at slips and gully when Bangladesh came to bat. That went on for a decade. Now they have learned how to deal with those deliveries. The lesson dosnt go deep right after a match or two. It takes to time to master anything new, and by new I mean something that wasnt a part of you. Tamim is right about calling it a habit. With more games, they will get to practise it more, and eventually the habit will grow. They will not throw their wickets away carelessly then. There is a difference now between the team now and that 5 years back. This team has learnt how to turn a game, something new now. And all this has come from playing a lot of matches. Another test series right now against any team would have done Bangladesh good.

  • POSTED BY Shortcuts on | December 11, 2012, 15:01 GMT

    Bangladesh should play weaker teams like New Zealand and Zimbabwe in a 3 match test series if they're complaining of lack of test matches. But at this moment, they only deserve to play a maximum of 2 in a series against the other teams like England, South Africa, Pakistan etc. Also very disappointed that Australia last played a test match against Bangladesh way back in 2006 6 years ago so that means that still both Tamim, Rahim and Shakib have still yet to play them. Just want to say to Australia that Gilchrist, McGrath, Ponting have all left. Please don't tell me that young replacements like Warner, Wade, Pattinson etc who have nowhere the quality these great players had can take on our players with ease now.

  • POSTED BY ExtremeSpeed on | December 11, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    Look! yes its true Bangladesh will struggle to progress in Tests as compared to ODIs and T20s but the amount of star superstars that are retiring from the other teams now and recently i.e. Lee, Ponting, Laxman, Strauss all along with Pollock, Hayden etc etc they're becoming weaker and Bangladesh which has the youngest are becoming much much better and gaining more experience compared to the youngsters of the other teams which they will have to eventually fill and I pretty much doubt these youngsters will dominate our experience youngsters like Shakib, Tamim etc who have already played over a 100 ODIs and still are only 23,24, 25 years of age. Look at Bangladesh's new prospect Anamul Haque who was the top run scorer at the World Cup at youth level and already scored a century in his debut and playing for his national team for first time whereas young players his age from other teams like Bosisto, Chand etc are still waiting mainly because their old players are still playing :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    @ Arifu karim you say it perfectly and dont worry there are so many indians who cant see rise of othere teams .We sl fans see a greet future in bangla team and good luck for 2014 t20 world cup

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 14:54 GMT

    Bangladesh should playTest matches with Pakistan in Pakistan, I am sure PCB will not only accept perposal but also provide Full prove security

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    I am not totally agree with Tamim. Playing more international Test and losing all the way is not improving Bangladesh records. And other way it will create lots of pressure towards the players. In the second Test in Khulna we see that players are not learning and doing the same mistakes throwing their wickets. It looks like BD players can not keep away themselves to play strokes. Whether they are in pressure or not in pressure they just know one thing playing stokes to build an innings. There are times when batsman have to wait 7/8 overs to get a loose delivery in the turning or bouncy wicket. That is the result of playing too many one day's in domestic circuit.If we look back some better players like Ashraful, Kapali, Nazimuddin then it is clear that after playing so many years they just can not show their true potential. Same for Shakib, Tamim, Mushfiq can not score consecutive centuries, math saving 100's etc. Solution, Play more longer version games in domestic circuit.

  • POSTED BY asiacricket1234 on | December 11, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    Agree with him, The reason why Bangladesh is successful is ODI because they played a lot in recent years. If they kept playing test they will improve too. Cant believe that they had to 11 month for test :(

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    Mr/Ms Aditya Ghosh: India made their Test debut in 1931. Two decades later, India won their first Test against England in Chennai in 1951. In between India played much more Tests than Bangladesh in spite of the factor of travelling by ship in those days. Bangladesh didn't win the recently concluded Test series against the West Indies. In spite of playing so few Tests, Bangladesh throughout the two Tests kept Windies on their toes. This is the central point, Tamim addresses in this article- that Bangladesh needs to play more Tests- otherwise as he rightly puts it will never know how to finish a Test. If Bangladesh is exposed to more Tests, I guess you will find out how many Tests Bangladesh needs.

  • POSTED BY SNIFFLEATHER on | December 11, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    Test cricket is the one true measure of a team, not the limited overs formats. Therefore, should Bangladesh be granted more series, then we will be able to gauge them accordingly. In the meantime, they remain somewhat in the wilderness. They won't improve if they don't play.

  • POSTED BY late--cut on | December 11, 2012, 13:17 GMT

    I think BD should adapt some kinda long time plan to see some success in the future. So far Their overall performances have been less than poor. They should take countries like Sri Lanka as an example. SL managed to win their first test series against mighty India just after 4 years they were granted the full membership and the World cup after 15 years. Its been over 12 years now that BD have become a full member. But they have won only 3 test matches (1 Zim, 2 WI). Considering the population, land mass 'n everything, BD should have done a hell of a lot more compare to SL which is a tiny Island with a population of just 20 mil. Having said that, There must be something wrong somewhere in BD cricket. They better figure it out pretty soon. Otherwise Its gonna get a lot more worse. I think that the best thing to do is, develop their domestic cricket. Having a good domestic cricket structure is the key to be success in Tests.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Look there is no point crying out loud for other nations to give us the opportunity to play more test cricket, what we have to do is bring in a few international players into our domestic cricket and improve the facility, what I'm trying to say is (Do It Yourself)DIY, 5 or 6 domestic matches not enough. Tamim has been talking on media about test cricket my question to him is that how many firstclass matches has he played in the last few years, see the problem is our big stars do not give priority to 5 day domestic whch then makes it even weaker!! We as a fan expact more from the board and from the players, money is not the issue BCB is one of the richest in the world financially so you guys tell me what is the issu?

  • POSTED BY swat1999 on | December 11, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    Bangladesh have to be play more test match. You can bring more glory to win a test match rathar than win 10 limited over match. A cricket or a cricketing nation always tested by a test match. Bangladesh coach and management should look at the matter

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    @aditya ghosh

    India achieved its first ever Test victory in 1951-52 when it beat England in Madras. Having made its Test debut in 1932, India had to wait for 20 long years in the sidelines before making its mark in the big stage. In that eventful year.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    @mcsdl...quit whining! Test Cricket is not a popular game how many countries of more than 200 play Test Cricket? exactly! you can't even fill stadiums for Test Cricket on a lot of days plus even after 5 days, results still end up in a lot of draws. With the amount of top quality players that are retiring from the other teams, these teams are becoming much weaker while our team which is the youngest is getting much stronger but some people are still blind to see it :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    I agree with Tamim but asking for test is by no means the solution. The solution is to improve your first class structure and make this as your top priority instead of your 50 and 20 over competitions which is true by the way. Also alter some of your Cricket pitches and make them bouncy and a bit fast plus travel abroad and play in A tours or for domestic teams. I can't see why Bangladesh test series against Zimbabwe can be raised to 3 instead of 2 because both teams really need to play the long form as much as possible. The ranking table of test looks awkward with Bangladesh playing half the number of matches as the teams above them plus have 0 rating points while Zimbabwe are unranked. So if Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are not getting the opportunities then just remove them instead of having them to just fill up the ranks so everyone can know that many nations play Test Cricket when really only 8 do :)

  • POSTED BY wiseshah on | December 11, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Bangladesh is doing well in odi because they play enough oneday, they shouldhave more test, without playing how can u win? Against west indies, they had good 4 days but lost in last season.

  • POSTED BY ph_younus on | December 11, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    We must play more tests not like after 11 months to play a 2 match test series. Someones saying hw many more test do we need, look u hv to play test match consistently to become habituate. Does not make sense hw many test we hv played yet, wt is make sense how often we hv played test match.....@Aditya

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    how many tests does bangladesh need???

  • POSTED BY Saadman_BD_Faisal on | December 11, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    In order to improve the test standards of Bd we need have a separate team for Test.

  • POSTED BY TheBlackMonk on | December 11, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    @mcsdl: Isn't that what Tamim is trying to say that BD needs playing more test so that they become mentally stronger to finish the game? It's not about quality, we all know all these batsmen are well qualified to score better runs but don't know how to react in test! @John-Price: Leaving tests doesn't really justify, in fact the younger players are even better in tests as they have rather more experience in FC cricket than the national players and surely in coming years more player will rise as did in these series; just take a look at the youngsters for now!

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Bangladesh have a bevy of good young batsmen, a plethora of left-arm spinners, two world class players in Tamim and Shakib, and a good pairing of captain and vice captain in Mushfiqur and Mahmudullah. What they are crying out for is two good seam/swing bowlers. If Mashrafe Mortaza can get fit for tests then they just need one out of Shafiul Islam, Rubel Hossain and Nazmul Hossain to step up. Nazmul looked very promising against Pakistan last year but hasn't played a test since. And please, please please Bangladesh selectors, give up on the grunting medium pacer who serves up two four balls an over, Shahadat Hossain!!!

  • POSTED BY mihir_nam on | December 11, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    Only if Bangladesh come out Openly and support Lord Woolf Report which says 2 more teams should be added to Test Cricket. Bangladesh should get more Test Matches also it will help cricket becoming global , They can continuously play . They should have Invited Some leading associate in their space during 2tours for Full ODi's and 4Day games

  • POSTED BY mcsdl on | December 11, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    Dream on Tamim...! If you are half as good you think you are then you wouldnt have lost the 1st test match against the windies...! Truth is Bangla players are mentally fragile.. You need to toughen your selves...! Then maybe (maybe) you could challenge teams like Newzealand and Windies in 5-10 years...

    At the moment there are doubt clouds over if Bangladesh are suitable or not for test cricket... I guess the main reason you still have the test status is because the support from big 3 in sub-continent and also having a huge fan base and a potential to have a good structure... But looking at what you have acheived in tests (i mean in tests only) is extremely dissapointing.. You need mentally strong batsmen and wicket taking bowlers to compete in test cricket..!

  • POSTED BY John-Price on | December 11, 2012, 10:07 GMT

    Much of what Tamin says is true, but I do not think that it is possible for a weak team to become stronger simply by getting thrashed by better opponents. The improvement needs to come outside the test arena and then they will be able to get better results and arrange more fixtures. I am sure that some of their players would benefit from a season or two in overseas domestic cricket - the youngsters would do well to look to Australian grade cricket, the more established players could play County Cricket. The improvement that would arise would be worth missing a few games for.

    My concern is that they will just give up on test matches and play only ODIs and 20:20. It is noticeable that a lot of their players do not seem to have appetite for basic disciplines like holding out for a draw.

  • POSTED BY mainul079080 on | December 11, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Great Tamim.Congratulation from a BD fan.But i dont agree with u in one aspect.If u win a test or series in home,then u will get more opportunity to play more tests against big opposition.U have to grab the limited opportunity that comes in ur way. Every newcomer team in test arena in the past did it in the same way.Our remarkable improvement in one dayers will stimulate giants like Australia to invite us to play VB series in Australia in near future-u see it.Same in test.So think positively Tamim. We have played over 75 tests so far. Thats a good number to prove mate!

  • POSTED BY TheDoctor394 on | December 11, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    Gee, Tamim wouldn't fit into the Indian team. He blames himself for his shortcomings. :-)

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | December 11, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    Bangladesh is a much better team than India. India should play Bangladesh rather than Sri Lanka more often, it might even boost the falling averages of some of the Indian greats.

  • POSTED BY zaman2012 on | December 11, 2012, 9:15 GMT

    Three words-- "improve first-class cricket". You are getting to play few tests because you cannot even force a draw in home condition. International matches are not a teaching/learning ground. For the moment 5 tests at home a year is what Bangladesh deserve.

  • POSTED BY aRahmanS29 on | December 11, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    Bangladesh is much better team than past few years! now they deserved to play more test cricket. Tamim got a good point about not finishing the game properly. They lost the first test in final session!

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  • POSTED BY aRahmanS29 on | December 11, 2012, 8:49 GMT

    Bangladesh is much better team than past few years! now they deserved to play more test cricket. Tamim got a good point about not finishing the game properly. They lost the first test in final session!

  • POSTED BY zaman2012 on | December 11, 2012, 9:15 GMT

    Three words-- "improve first-class cricket". You are getting to play few tests because you cannot even force a draw in home condition. International matches are not a teaching/learning ground. For the moment 5 tests at home a year is what Bangladesh deserve.

  • POSTED BY here2rock on | December 11, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    Bangladesh is a much better team than India. India should play Bangladesh rather than Sri Lanka more often, it might even boost the falling averages of some of the Indian greats.

  • POSTED BY TheDoctor394 on | December 11, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    Gee, Tamim wouldn't fit into the Indian team. He blames himself for his shortcomings. :-)

  • POSTED BY mainul079080 on | December 11, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Great Tamim.Congratulation from a BD fan.But i dont agree with u in one aspect.If u win a test or series in home,then u will get more opportunity to play more tests against big opposition.U have to grab the limited opportunity that comes in ur way. Every newcomer team in test arena in the past did it in the same way.Our remarkable improvement in one dayers will stimulate giants like Australia to invite us to play VB series in Australia in near future-u see it.Same in test.So think positively Tamim. We have played over 75 tests so far. Thats a good number to prove mate!

  • POSTED BY John-Price on | December 11, 2012, 10:07 GMT

    Much of what Tamin says is true, but I do not think that it is possible for a weak team to become stronger simply by getting thrashed by better opponents. The improvement needs to come outside the test arena and then they will be able to get better results and arrange more fixtures. I am sure that some of their players would benefit from a season or two in overseas domestic cricket - the youngsters would do well to look to Australian grade cricket, the more established players could play County Cricket. The improvement that would arise would be worth missing a few games for.

    My concern is that they will just give up on test matches and play only ODIs and 20:20. It is noticeable that a lot of their players do not seem to have appetite for basic disciplines like holding out for a draw.

  • POSTED BY mcsdl on | December 11, 2012, 10:19 GMT

    Dream on Tamim...! If you are half as good you think you are then you wouldnt have lost the 1st test match against the windies...! Truth is Bangla players are mentally fragile.. You need to toughen your selves...! Then maybe (maybe) you could challenge teams like Newzealand and Windies in 5-10 years...

    At the moment there are doubt clouds over if Bangladesh are suitable or not for test cricket... I guess the main reason you still have the test status is because the support from big 3 in sub-continent and also having a huge fan base and a potential to have a good structure... But looking at what you have acheived in tests (i mean in tests only) is extremely dissapointing.. You need mentally strong batsmen and wicket taking bowlers to compete in test cricket..!

  • POSTED BY mihir_nam on | December 11, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    Only if Bangladesh come out Openly and support Lord Woolf Report which says 2 more teams should be added to Test Cricket. Bangladesh should get more Test Matches also it will help cricket becoming global , They can continuously play . They should have Invited Some leading associate in their space during 2tours for Full ODi's and 4Day games

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Bangladesh have a bevy of good young batsmen, a plethora of left-arm spinners, two world class players in Tamim and Shakib, and a good pairing of captain and vice captain in Mushfiqur and Mahmudullah. What they are crying out for is two good seam/swing bowlers. If Mashrafe Mortaza can get fit for tests then they just need one out of Shafiul Islam, Rubel Hossain and Nazmul Hossain to step up. Nazmul looked very promising against Pakistan last year but hasn't played a test since. And please, please please Bangladesh selectors, give up on the grunting medium pacer who serves up two four balls an over, Shahadat Hossain!!!

  • POSTED BY TheBlackMonk on | December 11, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    @mcsdl: Isn't that what Tamim is trying to say that BD needs playing more test so that they become mentally stronger to finish the game? It's not about quality, we all know all these batsmen are well qualified to score better runs but don't know how to react in test! @John-Price: Leaving tests doesn't really justify, in fact the younger players are even better in tests as they have rather more experience in FC cricket than the national players and surely in coming years more player will rise as did in these series; just take a look at the youngsters for now!