West Indies in Bangladesh 2012-13

'We need to be street-wise against spinners' - Gibson

Mohammad Isam

December 4, 2012

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Kieran Powell was bowled by Farhad Reza for 34, BCB XI v West Indians, Khulna, November 28, 2012
Ottis Gibson, the West Indies coach, on the top order: "Our top order hasn't laid any foundations with any significant scores" © Associated Press
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Ottis Gibson, the West Indies coach, has blamed the team's batting for the debacle in the first two matches of the ODI series. West Indies are down 0-2 in the series, and are waiting for their batsmen to get it right against Bangladesh's spinners in the third game or risk conceding the series after being dominant in the Tests.

"Bangladesh has had it easy because we gave our wickets away," Gibson said. "If we pay a little bit more attention we could be more street-wise against their spinners. If we put on a good score tomorrow [Wednesday], I will still back our bowlers to defend a score."

"Bangladesh are an improving one-day unit and it wasn't easy to win [the ODI series] last year either. We just haven't produced the quality that we expect from ourselves in this series, and that has to start from tomorrow. We have to produce what we did against New Zealand which was outstanding."

Gibson also defended the composition of the team - West Indies played four allrounders in the second ODI - pointing out that ultimately, it was the top order's responsibility to lay a base for the big-hitters lower down the order. Chris Gayle, Lendl Simmons, Marlon Samuels and Darren Bravo haven't quite done that so far and have managed only 99 runs between the four of them in the first two games. That has put pressure on the likes of Kieron Pollard, Dwayne Smith, Darren Sammy and Andre Russell, who have been left to do the recovery task, which they too have failed to do.

"We have played with a lot of allrounders this year. They have been successful so when you start to lose, people will say that. It is pretty much the same team that won us the series against New Zealand 4-1.

"The top order led by Chris Gayle, Marlon Samuels - they got most of the runs, batted most of the overs. The allrounders were still able to make contributions in the back-end. Our top order hasn't laid any foundations with any significant scores," he said.

West Indies didn't leave the team hotel in central Dhaka for training at the Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium on Tuesday, after a political party called a day-long strike in the country. Gibson said that during this downtime, the team has regrouped, particularly the batsmen who held a meeting to open up about their poor performance in the Khulna ODIs.

"We had a full gym programme today, and yesterday afternoon we have had a very strategic batting meeting about the way we played so far. It was a very honest discussion. I think everyone understands our batsmen need to take more responsibility."

But Gibson was frustrated by what has transpired so far in the one-day series. West Indies are yet to cross the 200-run mark and none of their batsmen have managed a single fifty so far. This despite the dominance they have had in the two Test matches and their impressive run since August this year when they swept aside New Zealand at home and won the World Twenty20s.

"I am very disappointed. Having done so well in the Test matches, you want to finish this tour and this year on a positive note. We have just not batted like we know we can bat.

"We bowled well in spells but the bowlers have not been as consistent as they have been recently. There's a lot of room for improvement in all three departments."

Gibson said he was also looking forward to see his batsmen go back to basics and take up a lot more responsibility than they have so far in the series. He was particularly bothered with them getting bowled out so early in the second ODI, giving Bangladesh a massive 160-run win.

"A team doesn't become bad and neither is it all doom and gloom for me. We haven't been able to string together a good batting display so far. Getting bowled out for 17-18 overs to spare is very disappointing so hopefully they can bat most of the overs."

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent

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Posted by everfaithful77 on (December 5, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

GIBSON should admit that he and the SELECTORS underestimated Bangladesh when they sent Chanderpaul, Best and Ramdin home after the test series. THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE! These guys were among the best performers in the test series with Chanderpaul getting MAN of the Series and TINO bowling Windies to victory in both matches. RAMDIN was at his best with bat & gloves. WHY WERE THEY SENT HOME ? Gibson talks about the failure of the TOP ORDER to give a good foundation. True, but this is why you also need good MIDDLE ORDER batsmen like Chanders and Ramdin to provide back-up when the top order fails. POLLARD, RUSSEL, DWAYNE SMITH and SAMMY have struggled vs the BD spin bowlers which is not strange because they're not genuine batsmen. I THINK THE SELECTORS ARE CONFUSING ODI's WITH 20/20 cricket hence their choices. The team they chose for ODI series is very similar to the one sent to 20/20 WC. Ideally a good WI ODI team should play 5 gen batsmen, 3/4 gen bowlers, wkbatsman, 2 all-rounders.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 23:03 GMT)

I think I can guess the team for the 3rd ODI. Gayle, Powel/DR Smith, Sammy, Thomas, Rampaul, Roach, Holder, Permaul, Samuels, Darren Bravo and Pollard.

OH Gibbo, what else do you have up your sleeve? I just cannot understand you sent home Deonarine, still consider Chanders old for ODI's and lock out Sarwan.

Looks like Clyde Butts is sitting silent. I do hope the new Jamaican CEO will be much much more open to a fair play.

I am wondering if the WICB is waiting on Chandewrs to retire before they consider Sarwan.

Ever since Lara left things went wrong. They still had a good fighting team but Gibson knows best. Right now my WI test team for 2013 would be Gayle, Powel, Sarwan, Chanders, Samuels, Dwayne Bravo, Deonarine, Ramdin, Roach, Rampaul, and Permaul with Sarwan as captain and Samuels as vice captain. Back up players will be Fuddadin, K. Edwards, Darren Bravo, Fidel, Holder Bishoo and Thomas.

ODI's can take care of the rest beacuse Gayle and others will be engaged in twenty/20'

Posted by estraker on (December 4, 2012, 21:58 GMT)

Gibson i have said it from the time you tried to take unfair advantage of the senior players that you were a joke .....why don`t you retire? We have fast bowlers and it seems that you think that our spin bowlers, who are not better than theirs could have any affect on the BD players. Maybe you are still asleep. So far Gayle did not come off and the whole team failed. How about also saying that your mistery man is not the bowler that you thought he was!!!!

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 21:15 GMT)

lame excuse gibbo, u had de two best players of spin(shiv & deo) in de team, but u choose to send dem home.de pill too big fo u to swallo now to bring back shiv in de oneday team. so u rather fo WI cricket to suffer because of yu pride

Posted by chuBBs1965 on (December 4, 2012, 21:12 GMT)

Hey gibson why blaming the players, WI needs a better coach bcause the whole team is under preforming in the ODI. Shiv along with a few other players in the team won WI the test series. Now only Gayle can do the same thing for the WI in the odi if he gives the WI a huge start or book a flight for shiv to come and give your odi team a backbone. young players r good at home but when it comes to overseas matches u still need more than one mature player in the WI team, take lesson from the rest of the world.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 21:04 GMT)

Who do u blame if your guys keep "giving" away wickets over and over again? Instead, why not give credit where its due. The Bengal spinners were a handful as was Masrafe. Your guys just had no answers to their wily ways. The ICC played a con game when they gave Naraine the top bowling award when the real recipient should have been Syed Ajmal. The Tigers made Naraine look oh so ordinary. What do the ICC selectors have to say about that. Our Own Sohagh Ghazi has been so much more effective comapred to the so-called mystrey man, Naraine.

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 4, 2012, 19:28 GMT)

Some excuse from Gibson! hope he knows that Bangladesh played 4 brand new young inexperienced players plus the best all-rounder in the world wasn't playing :P

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 19:22 GMT)

as much as we need to bat well...we r leaking runs like a open bam. where is bradee, permaul, the shillingfords....why dont we have the best team on the field?? its quiet obvious that the way to beat Bna is by containment rather than short balls which keep sitting up like ballons... come on selectors.. stop the darn politics..pick the best team to win

Posted by BD_CricFan on (December 4, 2012, 18:46 GMT)

BD batsmens literally gifted their wickets..case in point Shakib in 2nd test while on 96 and Nasir missing out on 2 centuries in the tests.

Posted by ablushali on (December 4, 2012, 18:38 GMT)

Has anybody noticed that Bangladesh has already gone above New Zealand in ICC ODI ranking? WHo knows, if they win the series against WI, they may go above WI? Still people thinks BD is a minnow? How ignorant people could be?

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (December 4, 2012, 17:53 GMT)

How can we believe that batsmen of a professional International team gifted away their wickets in 2 games? Their best 4 batsmen have managed only 99 runs between them in the first 2 games. Now Mr. Gibson claimed that they've gifted wickets. That's ridiculous. Actually, WI top-orders lack skills to play spin in such conditions. Remember that 61 Mr. Gibson? A sweet revenge of 58 by Bangla boys. Now they've won by record margin of 160. Hope WI top-orders will GIFT the series by 0-5 to BD ...lol.

Posted by Technical-1 on (December 4, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

Smiling! Gibson.. When Gayle fails.. the whole Team Fails in the fast moving games!.. 50 and 20 over Games.. when CG fails... The rest follow Suits... The great idea is, the team is not right. We need Shiv in the Team.. And Barat or Powell to open with Gayle. We need Better Bowlers and Sammy need to be rested.

DL

Posted by Tokai69 on (December 4, 2012, 16:29 GMT)

Mushfique's team has read Gayle well and hope they'll stick their old plan !

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (December 4, 2012, 15:30 GMT)

"Bangladesh has had it easy because we gave our wickets away," - lolz What about Bangladesh giving their wickets away coach? facts are Bangladesh have played much better Cricket than the West Indies. I feel so bad for our critics trying to find excuses on these Bangladesh wins. I really hope Bangladesh can clinch this series so I can see what reaction we get next. We always here on tv that Bangladesh beat a third string West Indies side to cover their fortunes so I'm assuming if Bangladesh win this series, they will say Bangladesh beat a second string West Indies side lolz I just want to remind them that we had 4 debutants in our side plus the best ODI all-rounder in the WORLD is missing :P

Posted by wiinners on (December 4, 2012, 14:11 GMT)

Pls come up with your best Gibs! Time is running out. Pls bring back Chandar, Best, Parmaul and drop Sammy as suggested by WI fans,; cos we want to see how better than the best BD boyz have become! Want to see WI saying we played our best cricket, but the BD boyz played even better!!! The excuses Gibs and all WI fans are giving, sounds like BD is not that good team, it is rather WI all round performances that's got deteriorated. When 1 team plays better the other getz subdued. That's what happened to India, Srilanka and now to WI in the recent history against BD. Live forever BD boyz!

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

i'm nt sure whether they dominated dhaka test or our players gave away their wickets!!...

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 4, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

No matter what WI doing, all will b in vain until CHRIS GAYLE give a good start....WI can't do anything without GAYLE'S good start in ODI.......

Posted by saif_bd007 on (December 4, 2012, 11:35 GMT)

really??? Mr Gibson!!! Give away wicket??? Its a new word I heard today??? Once BD lost tests you didnot tell that its because BD batsmen gave away wickets. And be sure if BD batsmen dont give away in ODIs you are going home with 5-0. Because none of your bowler took a single wicket so far in ODI....

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