Bangladesh tour of England, 2010 July 23, 2010

Mortaza, Siddons contrasting in tour assessment

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Bangladesh captain Mashrafe Mortaza and coach Jamie Siddons had contrasting views on the side's tour of England. The visitors secured a historic victory, against England in the Bristol ODI, but otherwise it was a forgettable trip, including embarrassing defeats against Associate nations Ireland and Netherlands. While Mortaza believed that his team had to take responsibility for the losses against the less-fancied teams, Siddons chose to instead savour the happiest moment of the tour.

"There were some issues like losing the toss in both the matches [against Ireland and Netherlands] and the conditions but still I believe the players should take the responsibility for the defeats. We didn't play well and that's why we lost the matches," Mortaza said on the team's arrival in Bangladesh. "I am very much aware of the fact that everybody shared the joy when we won the match [against England] but players are only responsible when we lose.

"We should have won the series against Ireland against whom we secured a 3-0 victory at home. We will get some time before the World Cup and we must rectify the mistakes we made in the last series. I'm really concerned with our bowling. We should focus on this area ahead of the World Cup. I believe this team has got the quality to play much better cricket than the performance had against the two weak teams," he said.

While Mortaza expressed concerns over the ineffectiveness of his bowling, Siddons gave the batsmen credit for performing in tough conditions. He believed the toss played a crucial role in deciding the outcome against Ireland and Netherlands. "You've got to listen to the whole story. The ground was under covers for five days and was under water four days earlier. Had we won the toss we would have had a chance. You weren't there; you don't understand what the wicket was like, what the conditions were like.

"The pitch was damp, we missed two catches and bowling was poor so we lost the game [against Netherlands]. Don't be dramatic over that loss; it was a 30-overs game not a 50-overs game. Why don't you remember the win against England? It was a fantastic win," he said.

Siddons also blamed hectic travel schedules and lack of adequate preparation time for the defeats. "You don't understand how much rushed we were to travel, we didn't get time to practise. There were real excuses. I think the team performed reasonably well and shouldn't have lost that game yesterday, but we did and we got to move on. We remember the win against Australia [in Cardiff] ten years later but we forgot the win against England two days later. That's not really fair."

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  • on July 29, 2010, 17:49 GMT

    Well said by Murtaza. He has the right kind of commitment and self belief that every BD players should learn and share from him. He's right on the money about bowling weakness in the team. I think he reads the team very well as far as where the team is, what changes needs to take place and where the team needs to go in future. All the other players needs to share his vision and be at the same page where he's at. Not to mention, the coach as well. He and Shakib both offer a powerful combination of a captain and vice captain. Them working together side by side should be able sail the ship safe and sound. I believe they both understands winning, despite all the frustrations we've witnessed so far, I think they are able to focus on positives and striving hard to make progress to go the extra mile. If we are to have any impact on the coming world cup, the bowling weakness needs to be resolved in a hurry for sure. Good luck BD.... rooting for you... all the way.

  • ZsZs on July 28, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    again with bashing the other team. Can't you guys be positive? What is good about your own team. Does bashing someone else make you feel good about yourselves? Sad.

  • ostad on July 27, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    Bdesh is still going 'anyway'.Although we came out a little from 'about Ashraful', we need to be serious to hunt for more players and keep the players in practice and competitions.Keeping the 'form' is like keeping us in list regard less whether it is TEST or ODI 0r T20. Our players are form vulnerable...,don't keep them on vacation for long time..., nor let them pass the time playing just for playing..,

  • bAMMYrAHMANZ on July 26, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    to vikramreddytric: in wat sense did u say that ICC shud remove bd frm their test status?..u hav no right..i agree that they hav been losing..but their losses r not that bad..u can c alot of improvements in their playing..its just that they dont hav much support..i liked 'bdcricfan21's point..BCB sux..like hell..they dont knw who to select..ashraful has been given alot of chances..i think he shud quit..its just that bd doesnt giv importance to cricket alot..just politics!..damn them..anyways..i hav another point..look at india..they r the no.1 test playing nation ryt?...why the hell r they losing to the lankans?..they hav no right to stay at no.1..they shud dropd down the ranks..evn though bd r losing..i wil olways SUPPORT MY COUNTRY!..BD U ROCK!...

  • seanhass12 on July 26, 2010, 9:30 GMT

    Please don't try to hid under the England win. When you lost to Netherlands and Ireland. OK ! Bangladesh has been inconsistent and i think there should be a temporary ban on TEST and once they are consistent winners like other team in ODI then should the BAN lift. I believe this team of little youths are not ready for TEST. They are young. they jump too much of just winning a game and later they loose it. They have no patient to play test. Improve in ODI. they won most of their game with Zimbabwe anyway.

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on July 25, 2010, 22:22 GMT

    Hey 'Bdcricfan21', thanks bro. I am really pleased that most of you guys share my frustration in regards to this pathetic so called good for nothing BCB. However, I also agree with 'Shabafalam' for his comments on the matter of temporary loss of form. The good news is that Shakib is getting his batting form back coz he is actually doing really well at Worcetershire. I think he just needed a break from his usual team mates. The reason why I hate the BCB is coz they dnt do any homework nor any research before starting a tour. Top test nations send analyst prior to the tour just to assess wicket conditions and that data then goes to the selection panel, so that they pick the right guys according to that wicket. What does BCB do??? They arrange test schedules in England during early summer when no other asian teams even dare to accept those Seaming Zipping over cloud conditions. Not only that, they select Rasel, Nozmul for Irish 1st odi which we lost disgracefully. I hate BCB fully!!!!!

  • vikramreddytric on July 25, 2010, 4:54 GMT

    This has been an on going worst performance from Bangladesh from last 15 years. They have been playing international cricket from last 15+ years and they have won with England Team for the 1st time & SIddons is happy about their performance. Its utter nonsense what he is speaking?? In last 15 years they hardly won not more than 10-15 matches against the test playing nations. And now they do not have an ability to win against Netherland/Ireland. Can ICC ban their Test Status and atleast allow minnows Zimbabwe to play Tests?? Any 1 and every 1 can expect that Bangladesh is going to lose the match until and unless some miracle happens pnce in 5-6 years. Common ICC wake up.

  • SABD on July 25, 2010, 4:13 GMT

    @Taherul Hassan: Dude, please get hold of your emotions. BCB doesn't get financial allocations from the BD govt; it runs on its own! So, don't worry abt the money. No cricket board on Earth allocates money for the poor and needy. Otherwise, India shouldn't play any cricket at all with 500 million+ people not getting meal twice a day! If u don't pay a good amount of money to cricketers, u can't expect much from them. If players suffer from financial difficulties, it gets difficult for them to concentrate on their games. And that 'curry' stroey is absolute rubbish, pls apply some of ur common sense while reading that sort of articles. And abt Shakib: Don't u see a batsman like KP is out of form for 2 yrs! All quality batsmen hv their own blue patches, which goes away with time. And Shakib is an ALL ROUNDER for God's sake! He is performing consistently well with the ball. So relax!

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on July 25, 2010, 0:08 GMT

    Siddons does not sound like a realistic coach. For all the progress Bang have been making, they had ended the tour far too poorly after the win vs Eng. They need to realise that they are a test side and they need to develop the mentality of a test side. The ODI win they got vs Eng was wonderful for all genuine cricket fans simply because they never did it before BUT taking the one ODI win, in a plain old 3 match ODI series (NOT A TOURNEY) as overall success for the entire tour is NOT a good mentality. Well said Mortaza and I think Siddons needs to re-evaluate what he wants to do with the team. He should be looking for the team to at least DRAW test matches and SERIES, not trying to make them into a competitive ODI unit, they should be a competitive ODI unit already!!! I really think Bang will eventually become a competitive test side but with the way Siddons is thinking, it is no surprise that it is taking far too long.

  • on July 24, 2010, 18:44 GMT

    I understand the situation very well , right now BD team should not give excuses for loosing to NETHERLANDS, Ireland i Understand they have improved a lot over the years which BD hasn't . BD should learn from AFGANISTAN which improved from world cricket division 5-1 without any cricket facilities, AFGAN players are hard working they have to corss the border over the mountains to practice. AFGAN players don't get well payment form their boards, They play with passion and pride. IF BD NEEDS TO IMPROVE IT SHOULD BE NOW OR NEVER. I BELIEVE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!.

  • on July 29, 2010, 17:49 GMT

    Well said by Murtaza. He has the right kind of commitment and self belief that every BD players should learn and share from him. He's right on the money about bowling weakness in the team. I think he reads the team very well as far as where the team is, what changes needs to take place and where the team needs to go in future. All the other players needs to share his vision and be at the same page where he's at. Not to mention, the coach as well. He and Shakib both offer a powerful combination of a captain and vice captain. Them working together side by side should be able sail the ship safe and sound. I believe they both understands winning, despite all the frustrations we've witnessed so far, I think they are able to focus on positives and striving hard to make progress to go the extra mile. If we are to have any impact on the coming world cup, the bowling weakness needs to be resolved in a hurry for sure. Good luck BD.... rooting for you... all the way.

  • ZsZs on July 28, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    again with bashing the other team. Can't you guys be positive? What is good about your own team. Does bashing someone else make you feel good about yourselves? Sad.

  • ostad on July 27, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    Bdesh is still going 'anyway'.Although we came out a little from 'about Ashraful', we need to be serious to hunt for more players and keep the players in practice and competitions.Keeping the 'form' is like keeping us in list regard less whether it is TEST or ODI 0r T20. Our players are form vulnerable...,don't keep them on vacation for long time..., nor let them pass the time playing just for playing..,

  • bAMMYrAHMANZ on July 26, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    to vikramreddytric: in wat sense did u say that ICC shud remove bd frm their test status?..u hav no right..i agree that they hav been losing..but their losses r not that bad..u can c alot of improvements in their playing..its just that they dont hav much support..i liked 'bdcricfan21's point..BCB sux..like hell..they dont knw who to select..ashraful has been given alot of chances..i think he shud quit..its just that bd doesnt giv importance to cricket alot..just politics!..damn them..anyways..i hav another point..look at india..they r the no.1 test playing nation ryt?...why the hell r they losing to the lankans?..they hav no right to stay at no.1..they shud dropd down the ranks..evn though bd r losing..i wil olways SUPPORT MY COUNTRY!..BD U ROCK!...

  • seanhass12 on July 26, 2010, 9:30 GMT

    Please don't try to hid under the England win. When you lost to Netherlands and Ireland. OK ! Bangladesh has been inconsistent and i think there should be a temporary ban on TEST and once they are consistent winners like other team in ODI then should the BAN lift. I believe this team of little youths are not ready for TEST. They are young. they jump too much of just winning a game and later they loose it. They have no patient to play test. Improve in ODI. they won most of their game with Zimbabwe anyway.

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on July 25, 2010, 22:22 GMT

    Hey 'Bdcricfan21', thanks bro. I am really pleased that most of you guys share my frustration in regards to this pathetic so called good for nothing BCB. However, I also agree with 'Shabafalam' for his comments on the matter of temporary loss of form. The good news is that Shakib is getting his batting form back coz he is actually doing really well at Worcetershire. I think he just needed a break from his usual team mates. The reason why I hate the BCB is coz they dnt do any homework nor any research before starting a tour. Top test nations send analyst prior to the tour just to assess wicket conditions and that data then goes to the selection panel, so that they pick the right guys according to that wicket. What does BCB do??? They arrange test schedules in England during early summer when no other asian teams even dare to accept those Seaming Zipping over cloud conditions. Not only that, they select Rasel, Nozmul for Irish 1st odi which we lost disgracefully. I hate BCB fully!!!!!

  • vikramreddytric on July 25, 2010, 4:54 GMT

    This has been an on going worst performance from Bangladesh from last 15 years. They have been playing international cricket from last 15+ years and they have won with England Team for the 1st time & SIddons is happy about their performance. Its utter nonsense what he is speaking?? In last 15 years they hardly won not more than 10-15 matches against the test playing nations. And now they do not have an ability to win against Netherland/Ireland. Can ICC ban their Test Status and atleast allow minnows Zimbabwe to play Tests?? Any 1 and every 1 can expect that Bangladesh is going to lose the match until and unless some miracle happens pnce in 5-6 years. Common ICC wake up.

  • SABD on July 25, 2010, 4:13 GMT

    @Taherul Hassan: Dude, please get hold of your emotions. BCB doesn't get financial allocations from the BD govt; it runs on its own! So, don't worry abt the money. No cricket board on Earth allocates money for the poor and needy. Otherwise, India shouldn't play any cricket at all with 500 million+ people not getting meal twice a day! If u don't pay a good amount of money to cricketers, u can't expect much from them. If players suffer from financial difficulties, it gets difficult for them to concentrate on their games. And that 'curry' stroey is absolute rubbish, pls apply some of ur common sense while reading that sort of articles. And abt Shakib: Don't u see a batsman like KP is out of form for 2 yrs! All quality batsmen hv their own blue patches, which goes away with time. And Shakib is an ALL ROUNDER for God's sake! He is performing consistently well with the ball. So relax!

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on July 25, 2010, 0:08 GMT

    Siddons does not sound like a realistic coach. For all the progress Bang have been making, they had ended the tour far too poorly after the win vs Eng. They need to realise that they are a test side and they need to develop the mentality of a test side. The ODI win they got vs Eng was wonderful for all genuine cricket fans simply because they never did it before BUT taking the one ODI win, in a plain old 3 match ODI series (NOT A TOURNEY) as overall success for the entire tour is NOT a good mentality. Well said Mortaza and I think Siddons needs to re-evaluate what he wants to do with the team. He should be looking for the team to at least DRAW test matches and SERIES, not trying to make them into a competitive ODI unit, they should be a competitive ODI unit already!!! I really think Bang will eventually become a competitive test side but with the way Siddons is thinking, it is no surprise that it is taking far too long.

  • on July 24, 2010, 18:44 GMT

    I understand the situation very well , right now BD team should not give excuses for loosing to NETHERLANDS, Ireland i Understand they have improved a lot over the years which BD hasn't . BD should learn from AFGANISTAN which improved from world cricket division 5-1 without any cricket facilities, AFGAN players are hard working they have to corss the border over the mountains to practice. AFGAN players don't get well payment form their boards, They play with passion and pride. IF BD NEEDS TO IMPROVE IT SHOULD BE NOW OR NEVER. I BELIEVE ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!.

  • bdcricfan21 on July 24, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    cont...Unfortunately, for this reason, we are in an eternal rebuilding process. When England toured BD last year, the BCB chose not to use UDRS because of the cost. But a week later, when the ICC president came to visit, the BCB spend lakhs of taka for decorative flowers and all sorts of rearrangements just to score a few political points with the boss. Truly shameful. We have 160 million crazy cricket fanatics in our country.There is so much that the BCB can do to produce quality players. Imagine if BCB came out with a pacer hunt program that awarded few lakh taka for the winner. You would have ever kid in villages and slums trying to become pace bowlers. BCB can do a lot to improve competitive school and collegiate level cricket. But that is not happening. I read somewhere that we have 4 bowling machines in the whole country!!! How pathetic is that? Honestly, I think we should lose test status for a couple of years. It would send a message to the BCB: IT IS TIME TO START WINNING!!!

  • bdcricfan21 on July 24, 2010, 17:46 GMT

    @Bengali-Tiger007 You make very good points (perhaps you should spend more time on BD forums...lol). I would have to say that 99% of BD fans would agree with you. Leadership positions in our country have always been filled with incompetent men (women), and unfortunately our cricket board is no exception. Anytime the BCB can arrange an international tour, they make money. So right now and for the past ten years, there is never really been that sense of urgency to improve our cricket to make it competitive at the top level. As long there is international tours, there is a cash flow for the crooks at BCB to smooch off. For some reason, we have always been playing with 20 years-olds. That was the case 10 years ago and it is the case today. There is no responsibility from the BCB to raise and nurture players correctly. What happened to the 20-year-olds who were playing 5 years ago? The likes of Shahriar nafees, nazimuddin, , ghosh, etc should be at their prime right now playing for BD...

  • qamar.uddin on July 24, 2010, 17:38 GMT

    @Rakesh, u seemed to be too concerned abt Bangladesh loose to Netherlands, y not worry abt ur great India lost to Zim and recently trashed by SL in 4 days...

  • Rakesh_Sharma on July 24, 2010, 14:27 GMT

    I dont think Bangladesh has won test match against any good teams. Bangladesh won against WI as totally alll there players boycotted. Against the Zimbabwe same case.All their main players did mass boycott and Zimbabwe became weak. Real Zimbabwe team would have trashed them. Give test ststus to Ireland.Ireland will be much stronger than Bangladesh when they gain experience of just 3 to 5 years unlike B'desh who have played for 10 years and are still at associate strength. By the way has every one forgot that Bangladesh was also beaten by Canada in world cup 2003?B'desh must improve. IRELAND MUST BE PROMOTED. Period.

  • on July 24, 2010, 13:01 GMT

    Bangladesh can't do well if not they reject the player like imrul. he is not a good player at all. And we were very much surprised about how could Bangladesh losses against that 2 low team. They have to really really work hard as they have the ICC No. 1 allrounder and ODI No. 2 bowler Shakib. And such Batsman like Tamim and Shakib and Jahurul and bowlers like Mashrafee, Shafiul, Shakib, Razzak...

  • xavi_paula on July 24, 2010, 11:52 GMT

    Bangladesh has done fair enough job in england tour. they hav manage 2 win against england whose r in teraffic form...yap they lost against ireland n holland bt thats ok. hollands match was interrapte dby rain n the conditions were nt in fovour. if u think bangladesh z nt doing a good job then what will u say abt WI they hav nt perofmed for last 5 years......they lost d 1 day series against SA 5-0 . n what abt pak they r only good in t20s n only one test win agains AUS. i think BAN need to perform they must play better cricket d their should nt b any comments abt their TEST STATUS ne more.......especially after winning agains all d test playing nation.

  • on July 24, 2010, 9:32 GMT

    Oh Jamie, you should really be stressing how fortunate Bangladesh were to get out of ireland 1-1. The Irish skipper and management made such a poor call on winning the toss for the second ODI. But thanks to Bangladesh for at least playing us in an ODI.

    To the author, there is nothing 'embarrassing' about losing to Ireland and The Netherlands, these sides can beat anyone.

  • on July 24, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    bangladesh is the weakest test nation of all time!

  • CricObserv on July 24, 2010, 8:54 GMT

    ICC should give Ireland & Zimbawe test status. Banglash's record against major test playing nations is played 60, won 2, drawn 3, lost 55. The two wins come against the depleted West Indies side. Ireland & Zimbawe can perfom better than this. Atleast more draws. The progress made by Zimbawe when they were playing test cricket is very impressive compared to Bangladesh's

  • on July 23, 2010, 22:08 GMT

    Mashrafe himself was useless and he's saying bowling was bad. Riiight!!!

  • banglafan on July 23, 2010, 18:14 GMT

    Thank you Mashrafe for speaking the truth. Siddons, wake up. BD loses to Ireland and Holland on your watch !!!!

  • Shajadul on July 23, 2010, 17:36 GMT

    Bangladesh should be very careful against these weak teams in their home condition as we all expect to see them win comprehensively.

  • on July 23, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    The excuse we have heard in the past was the lack of infrastructure and training facilities. It is clear they have been provided with all the necessary facilities and specialist coaches also financed by the poor working class people of Bangladesh and once they play the 'rash' hook and pull shots they do not remember who they are representing these poor working class passionate people of the country. I can tell you the readers to look at Shakib's last 10 innings in all formats and see how he has played. They have mostly been extravagant, rough and inappropriate for the situation and the commentaries in those innings can tell you how bizarre it was the way he got out in relation to the crucial stages in the game and he yet he goes back to the BCB demanding a payrise!

  • on July 23, 2010, 17:08 GMT

    All I can recall is how these players spent £6000 on curry being delivered via helicopter during the T20 World Cup held in England and how the players such as Shakib were more interested in the biriyani than focusing on the sport and challenges ahead. Shakib has never shown the qualities of all-rounder player that the media have portrayed him as. If you look at those matches where he has performed, you will see that he had a lot of luck and chances in scoring those runs and he was going through a 'purple patch' in his career. The Shakib you are seeing now is the real Shakib, as he has run out of his luck and that is pretty much what most of the players are like in Bangladesh. (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/359387/THE-Bangladesh-cricket-squad-forked-out-nearly-pound6000-to-have-curry-flown-150-miles-to-their-hotel.html)

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on July 23, 2010, 17:08 GMT

    Cont....... Because it has been almost 12 years since rubbing shoulders with the big boys in the big league, has BD really improved? Yes they have, but at a snail pace. More to the point I think BCB is responsible for that. The domestic structure is good enough with mature sponsors and some overseas quality already in town. But the pitches (wickets) in BD are even worse than India's and that alone describes the poor quality. A nation cannot improve if the quality of their wickets are the worst in the World. I am not surprised by the losses to Ire & Hol. At this rate even Brazil and Argentina will beat us in Cricket. Also note that our team has always been a young side full of players age averaging 20's and no seniors 30+. BCB never sticks to a solid selection and always fannys about with them. BCB has handicapped our teams, our country's progression. ICC please step in and Sack the whole BCB members and PLS PLS PLS replace them with educated smart ones. (Yeah, as if that will happen)!

  • on July 23, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    MY REPORT:

    Bangladesh has always been underachievers in all formats of cricket. They have had random success and the wins against a weakened Zimbabwe teams do not count as a victory by any means. With the amount of money that has already been invested in these crop of players, it would have been far more beneficial if that money was given to the all those poor people living in tough, struggling conditions in Bangladesh. By doing this the pain and anguish of seeing these players who are grooming a fashionable celebrity lifestyle would never had materialised as they currently are doing now. These cricketers receive huge amounts of money for playing for the national team in comparison to the average salary income that people in the country earn and what have they given us in return??? Essentially poor working class people are the ones financing these players, giving them chances to represent their country and make the whole nation proud.

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on July 23, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    Its nice to see some well mixed or should I say balanced thought comments here. I had been very busy congratulating Murali and Srilankan team on the other pages. I really don't get too much involved in BD's forums, coz I know we all will be wasting our time and our usefull laptop batteries in typing our comments. These forums neither the players or the ICC or those pathetic BCB's will even concider looking at. The main problem and I mean the one and ONLY PROBLEM with the team BD is that it is run by morans. Nearly all of BCB panel members including the selection committee (exc Ather ali Khan) are all Illiterates and yes they do not even have school grades let alone Degrees, Masters or PHD's. How can you select Moran players like Rasel, Nazmul for the 1st Odi agnst Irelnd? Most Irish players play in the English Counties and they are well use to batting against quality if not the best bowlers in the World. BD I think have enforced a review point and ICC should sack the whole BCB members!

  • SABD on July 23, 2010, 16:54 GMT

    Jamie is a brilliant batting coach. He used to coach Australia when the likes of Gilchrist, Hayden, and Langer were around! He has brought tremendous improvement in Bangladesh's batting as evident by the huge leaps in the batting averages of players over the last two years. But as a head coach, Jamie is totally impotent. He has failed to make Bangladesh play as a unit regularly. This is the reason why Bangladesh has lost so many matches this year despite several brilliant individual performances. If the bowling is good and the batting is bad in one match, the exact opposite happens in the very next match! And last but not the least, Bangladesh needs a good pace bowling coach. Their pace battery has got all the necessary ingredients: pace, line, length, swing and wit. It needs to be nurtured by a top expert. Bangladesh should get Wasim Akram or Glenn Macgrath for the job if possible.

  • andrew.henshaw on July 23, 2010, 15:37 GMT

    I'm surprised that people are still calling Ireland a weak team, especially coming from Jamie Siddons. Ireland are a strong side and if they had Joyce and Morgan they would beat bangladesh hands down.

  • JS82 on July 23, 2010, 13:55 GMT

    Mr. Siddons - No excuse can justify the losses to Ireland and Holland. With due respect to Holland and Ireland, we should be good enough to beat them with our A teams.

  • on July 23, 2010, 13:40 GMT

    Siddons is full of rubbish blaming the outcome of the toss for their defeats to Ireland and the Netherlands. Ireland completely outplayed them. While on the subject of that toss, won in overcast conditions - surely as a Test nation Bangladesh should be able to play the swinging ball? 10 years after full member status and they can't... why not? Back to the defeats, Ireland completely outclassed them in the 1st ODI. But has Siddons forgotten about losing the toss in the 2nd ODI, when Porterfield made the wrong call and Bangladesh won... hey better not mention those types of tosses! Against the Netherlands, they were found out by the swining ball again and not only that, but by a team far weaker than Ireland. Their bowling was poor and highly erratic, the constant selection of players like Ashraful points to Bangladesh having no depth.

    Given Ireland and Bangladesh playing a Test match against one another, it wouldn't suprise me if Ireland won. Test cricket for Ireland!

  • Lakpj on July 23, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    bangladesh should stop day dreaming n must try 2 work on their cricket. winning a game against a test playing nation once in a while won't prove anything. i don't think they deserve to be playing test cricket.

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  • Lakpj on July 23, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    bangladesh should stop day dreaming n must try 2 work on their cricket. winning a game against a test playing nation once in a while won't prove anything. i don't think they deserve to be playing test cricket.

  • on July 23, 2010, 13:40 GMT

    Siddons is full of rubbish blaming the outcome of the toss for their defeats to Ireland and the Netherlands. Ireland completely outplayed them. While on the subject of that toss, won in overcast conditions - surely as a Test nation Bangladesh should be able to play the swinging ball? 10 years after full member status and they can't... why not? Back to the defeats, Ireland completely outclassed them in the 1st ODI. But has Siddons forgotten about losing the toss in the 2nd ODI, when Porterfield made the wrong call and Bangladesh won... hey better not mention those types of tosses! Against the Netherlands, they were found out by the swining ball again and not only that, but by a team far weaker than Ireland. Their bowling was poor and highly erratic, the constant selection of players like Ashraful points to Bangladesh having no depth.

    Given Ireland and Bangladesh playing a Test match against one another, it wouldn't suprise me if Ireland won. Test cricket for Ireland!

  • JS82 on July 23, 2010, 13:55 GMT

    Mr. Siddons - No excuse can justify the losses to Ireland and Holland. With due respect to Holland and Ireland, we should be good enough to beat them with our A teams.

  • andrew.henshaw on July 23, 2010, 15:37 GMT

    I'm surprised that people are still calling Ireland a weak team, especially coming from Jamie Siddons. Ireland are a strong side and if they had Joyce and Morgan they would beat bangladesh hands down.

  • SABD on July 23, 2010, 16:54 GMT

    Jamie is a brilliant batting coach. He used to coach Australia when the likes of Gilchrist, Hayden, and Langer were around! He has brought tremendous improvement in Bangladesh's batting as evident by the huge leaps in the batting averages of players over the last two years. But as a head coach, Jamie is totally impotent. He has failed to make Bangladesh play as a unit regularly. This is the reason why Bangladesh has lost so many matches this year despite several brilliant individual performances. If the bowling is good and the batting is bad in one match, the exact opposite happens in the very next match! And last but not the least, Bangladesh needs a good pace bowling coach. Their pace battery has got all the necessary ingredients: pace, line, length, swing and wit. It needs to be nurtured by a top expert. Bangladesh should get Wasim Akram or Glenn Macgrath for the job if possible.

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on July 23, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    Its nice to see some well mixed or should I say balanced thought comments here. I had been very busy congratulating Murali and Srilankan team on the other pages. I really don't get too much involved in BD's forums, coz I know we all will be wasting our time and our usefull laptop batteries in typing our comments. These forums neither the players or the ICC or those pathetic BCB's will even concider looking at. The main problem and I mean the one and ONLY PROBLEM with the team BD is that it is run by morans. Nearly all of BCB panel members including the selection committee (exc Ather ali Khan) are all Illiterates and yes they do not even have school grades let alone Degrees, Masters or PHD's. How can you select Moran players like Rasel, Nazmul for the 1st Odi agnst Irelnd? Most Irish players play in the English Counties and they are well use to batting against quality if not the best bowlers in the World. BD I think have enforced a review point and ICC should sack the whole BCB members!

  • on July 23, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    MY REPORT:

    Bangladesh has always been underachievers in all formats of cricket. They have had random success and the wins against a weakened Zimbabwe teams do not count as a victory by any means. With the amount of money that has already been invested in these crop of players, it would have been far more beneficial if that money was given to the all those poor people living in tough, struggling conditions in Bangladesh. By doing this the pain and anguish of seeing these players who are grooming a fashionable celebrity lifestyle would never had materialised as they currently are doing now. These cricketers receive huge amounts of money for playing for the national team in comparison to the average salary income that people in the country earn and what have they given us in return??? Essentially poor working class people are the ones financing these players, giving them chances to represent their country and make the whole nation proud.

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on July 23, 2010, 17:08 GMT

    Cont....... Because it has been almost 12 years since rubbing shoulders with the big boys in the big league, has BD really improved? Yes they have, but at a snail pace. More to the point I think BCB is responsible for that. The domestic structure is good enough with mature sponsors and some overseas quality already in town. But the pitches (wickets) in BD are even worse than India's and that alone describes the poor quality. A nation cannot improve if the quality of their wickets are the worst in the World. I am not surprised by the losses to Ire & Hol. At this rate even Brazil and Argentina will beat us in Cricket. Also note that our team has always been a young side full of players age averaging 20's and no seniors 30+. BCB never sticks to a solid selection and always fannys about with them. BCB has handicapped our teams, our country's progression. ICC please step in and Sack the whole BCB members and PLS PLS PLS replace them with educated smart ones. (Yeah, as if that will happen)!

  • on July 23, 2010, 17:08 GMT

    All I can recall is how these players spent £6000 on curry being delivered via helicopter during the T20 World Cup held in England and how the players such as Shakib were more interested in the biriyani than focusing on the sport and challenges ahead. Shakib has never shown the qualities of all-rounder player that the media have portrayed him as. If you look at those matches where he has performed, you will see that he had a lot of luck and chances in scoring those runs and he was going through a 'purple patch' in his career. The Shakib you are seeing now is the real Shakib, as he has run out of his luck and that is pretty much what most of the players are like in Bangladesh. (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/359387/THE-Bangladesh-cricket-squad-forked-out-nearly-pound6000-to-have-curry-flown-150-miles-to-their-hotel.html)

  • on July 23, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    The excuse we have heard in the past was the lack of infrastructure and training facilities. It is clear they have been provided with all the necessary facilities and specialist coaches also financed by the poor working class people of Bangladesh and once they play the 'rash' hook and pull shots they do not remember who they are representing these poor working class passionate people of the country. I can tell you the readers to look at Shakib's last 10 innings in all formats and see how he has played. They have mostly been extravagant, rough and inappropriate for the situation and the commentaries in those innings can tell you how bizarre it was the way he got out in relation to the crucial stages in the game and he yet he goes back to the BCB demanding a payrise!