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Bangladesh held back by indecision - Siddons

Daniel Brettig

April 28, 2011

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Jamie Siddons calls the shots in Bangladesh's team huddle, November 28, 2010
Jamie Siddons: "Everyone tends to know what needs to be done but it doesn't seem to be happening." © Zimbabwe Cricket
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Bangladesh must grow out of a culture of petty politics and indecision if it wishes to truly develop as a cricket nation, the former national coach Jamie Siddons has said.

Siddons' contract was not renewed after the series against Australia that followed the World Cup, where the tournament co-host missed out on a berth in the quarter-finals. He was sad to leave the Dhaka suburbs that had been his home for three years, and admitted his own forceful approach to officialdom had probably played a large role in his exit.

"Everyone tends to know what needs to be done but it doesn't seem to be happening, whether the money's not there or they're just not doing it, I'm not too sure," Siddons told ESPNcricinfo. "I've probably said more than I should and that probably is why my job is gone. But I want them to do well, I want them to improve and I know the reasons why they're not, and I just wish more people would listen to me.

"In Australia if something's wrong we try to fix it and we make it known what we think it is, and that's probably not the way to go so much here, you've got to be more subtle about it and work with the right people."

Bangladesh cricket has tended to run on an overly politicised four-year cycle, with long term planning in short supply. Siddons advocated a closer look at other cricket administrations, and also the development of greater support networks for national coaches, the majority of which still need to be hired from overseas.

"I think they've got to look at other administrations and follow the guidelines, and put people in place that will fill those spots," Siddons said. "Get more coaches from overseas to start with, put the in the main positions, and get our guys to come in underneath that and learn and develop the players. Make sure there's a 15s, 17s, 19s coach, that may be it from overseas, and an academy coach from overseas, a very good coach, and put them in place.

"Look at how other administrations run their cricket, just take some guidelines from it and try to copy, try to follow. See how you go then. You've also got to pay good money to get people to bring their families over here to come and get involved in Bangladesh cricket and enjoy it."

The struggle of Bangladesh cricket to develop at a healthy rate, since a hasty addition to Test ranks in 2000, has been one of the less palatable aspects of world cricket in the 21st century, but Siddons argued that some progress was being made. "I look at statistics, you can't say 'let's go win and make it to the quarter-finals or the semi-finals', I say 'what are we doing? Are we getting better or going backwards?'," he said. "In the World Cup we made 200 four times out of six games, and in the last three World Cups we'd made 200 only three times in all of them.

"The five biggest run-chases in Mirpur were against us in 2010, so that means we've made big scores in 2010 five times, we hadn't had big targets chased against us before because we hadn't set those targets, and that's batting first against the big teams. Those sorts of things don't just happen."

Having returned to Australia, Siddons is now an applicant for several jobs, including first-class posts in New Zealand (Wellington and Otago have vacancies) and also in New South Wales. He will be an interested observer as Australia make conclusions about how the national team has lost stature over the past three years, culminating in the surrender of the Ashes at home and the loss of the World Cup.

"We can't stay a powerhouse forever, it's good to have reviews, it's good to work out what we think is wrong," Siddons said. "I'm sure everyone will have their say and hopefully the right people are going to sort it out and come up with the right answers. It's not always ex-cricketers from 10 years ago who can come up with those answers, so I hope they've got the right people listening, they've got some vision and it all sorts itself out.

"I know Tim Nielsen, it's not his fault the team's going bad, it's what's coming through and what was following the players who were there in the first place."

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Posted by chapathishot on (April 30, 2011, 10:34 GMT)

@Sumon Mahbubur Rahman : No you are wrong according to stats Bangladesh should be champions of WC 2011 .They Conceded the highest score in the tournament and were bowled out for the lowest.LOL

Posted by chapathishot on (April 30, 2011, 10:28 GMT)

@Bang La Happy to see your comment.Not seen any comment after 18th February was really worried about your well being.Happy to find that you are still commenting

Posted by   on (April 30, 2011, 6:23 GMT)

@mrgupta if stats prove everthing then players doesn't need to play on the field. They can calculate some math, stats & decleare the winner! According to this rule winner of the WC'11 is Australlia. And brother what is this article is saying? and what r u talking about?

Posted by tatactg on (April 29, 2011, 22:01 GMT)

@Mr-gupta: what about all those 3 day and 4 day test matches India Played for the first 25 years?

Posted by   on (April 29, 2011, 17:45 GMT)

I'm a great fan of Jamie Siddons, during his time we improved a lot. However, we are very emotional nation. We love cricket very much. Due to emotion, our cricketer takes huge pressure & can't play their natural game. Moreover, we need to play more & more cricket-- international & domestic. We have to be habituated to play in the fast track. I believe that's the way we can improve our cricket.

Posted by mrgupta on (April 29, 2011, 14:04 GMT)

@Sumon Mahbubur Rahman: Sorry i checked again in Statsguru, in their first 68 test matches India Won 6 and lost 29 (No foreign Coaches, no facilities, no extra money, no incentives). I don't know how you got your stats of 4 Wins. In comparison BD has Won 3 and lost 59 (Foreign Coach, IPL contracts, higher incentives and better facilities).

Posted by mrgupta on (April 29, 2011, 13:45 GMT)

@Bang_La: I hope you know how to use statsguru. Use it to know that after their first 68 test matches India had a Win-Loss ratio 0.21 which is atleast 4 times better than what BD has managed so far (0.05). During its early days in Cricket India was a British colony and was still recovering post independence with huge shortage of funds let alone any foreign coaches or kind of facilities the Bangla Cricketers today Enjoy. So please don't compare the two teams in their earlier days. I am not sure how you believe there is an improvement when Bangladesh has not won a single International match against India, Aus, SA and Pak in last 4 years. They did beat all of these countries earlier though. Statistically there is no improvement because the Win-Loss ratio against top teams has gone way down since World Cup 2007.

Posted by   on (April 29, 2011, 13:44 GMT)

@ Sumon Mahbubur Rahman :It doesnt matter how many test India won in their first 68 tests but what matters is how many they lost and how they lost even in their first 25 tests They did far far better than the Bangladesh performance till now

Posted by   on (April 29, 2011, 9:17 GMT)

no doubt Jamie was good and about political aspects aren't 100% true as BCB head and some former cricketers told. Jamie good full freedom to cutoff senior players and bonding a fresh XI. Not renewing a contrct always leaves some against as he also need find a new job so this article could help. Its really tiresome reading severe dimentia india people finding bias in every atticle about BD. @rakeshdash dont under estimate a team. one persn Dhal mia cant give u a status if so how t sound if i say ICC head manage WC for india?? & how it feels to u?? @mr.gupta if u think stats prove every thing then checkout what india in their first 68 test's won only 4 ! i'm not comparing just shown what stats says. yeah its true we're strugling and its not T20! test cricket improvement takes time. we even didn't played 20 years!

Posted by D.V.C. on (April 29, 2011, 8:33 GMT)

And yet Bangladesh have just moved ahead of the West Indies in the ODI Rankings.

Posted by bharath74 on (April 29, 2011, 7:57 GMT)

Sourav Ganguly would be an ideal coach for Bangladesh, i think he can really improve the state of Bangla cricket. I would love to see him as a coach. Bangladesh public are fanatic supporters of cricket and i think Bangladesh will become a cricket giant if its resources are used properly.

Posted by   on (April 29, 2011, 6:19 GMT)

This type of comment not expect to Siddons, i think he lost his job that is the resion.Coaches like Gordon Greenidge, Dave Whatmore and Siddons have helped to elevate Bangladesh from where they were in 1997. Greenidge took us to the World Cup Whatmore helped us become a better team than Kenya and Zimbabwe Siddons took us to the level of New Zealand and West Indies. They all r improve our Cricket.Now we go to a better team in world Cricket.Players need a chance to develop, and they need faith. And the team needs stability.

Posted by RakeshDash on (April 29, 2011, 6:10 GMT)

@Bang_La:If you are a true fan of cricket, i am sure you will also want your team to get a break from test cricket. Mr Gupta has already given the statistics. In so many years, BD has been able to beat a WI(3rd string) team and Zim and came close to beat Pak n mighty Aussies. What i am saying is, the facilities, money, foreign coaches, specail coaches for all dept - were not available at old days. Still peopel trying to compare the old days with the new era.BD in test cricket till date is pathetic. I hope you remember the fact Mr Dalmiya,an Indian, helped you in fact got you the test status. I have never seen Mr Siddons taking responsible for any defeats or any of the dismal show(currently against WI n SA in WC). Always good at blaming others. Am not too sure what he has done for BD in last few years...only you people know that.

Posted by Baundele on (April 29, 2011, 4:37 GMT)

@ bobagorof, introducing dynamicity in the team is the key. Not sticking with the same side is not equivalent to unnecessary chopping and changing. A player must be given a fair amount of time/matches; but not 4 years. When someone is not performing, you must try an alternative, increase the competition for the players to improve themselves for the team. This is the way you deal with an improving cricket nation. After the apparent success of 2007 world cup, BD already had a core set of players. In Siddons' era, experienced ones were either kicked out of the team or damaged (e.g., Ashraful) and he started everything from the scratch instead of building on the good platform already had. And a decline in 2011 world cup shows the result. Siddons is making all these fuss just to hamper BD's getting a good coach. "If I can not have it, no one should. ;)"

Posted by   on (April 29, 2011, 3:42 GMT)

Coaches like Gordon Greenidge, Dave Whatmore and Siddons have helped to elevate Bangladesh from where they were in 1997.

Greenidge took us to the World Cup Whatmore helped us become a better team than Kenya and Zimbabwe

Siddons took us to the level of New Zealand and West Indies.

Now we need someone new who will get us there where both NZ and WI will be below us in both ODI and Test Rankings. Only then can we start thinking about taking on mid level teams like England and Pakistan below in rankings.

however dropping Siddons doesnt mean that we cant take up his advice on developing academies and helping boost school cricket.

We should also help associates like Ireland and afghanistan by sending A-teams or under 19 teams to play unofficial tests so that they can develop

Posted by cricketgladiator on (April 29, 2011, 3:07 GMT)

totally agree with bobagorof.....we talking about cricket in long term not just for a season or two!!! It will never be a better team if they don't have any long term view/plan and work with it and of course need to strengthen their domestic and youth cricket in order to achieve that.

Posted by Srini_Chennai on (April 29, 2011, 2:08 GMT)

@Bang_la: Bangladesh doesn't deserve the test spot. What they have done in last 11 years in test cricket? They haven't beaten a full strength good team in this 11 years. All they have done is to beat weakened Zimbabwe and Westindies.U don't compare any of the indian teams to your mediocre team. Indian team in 70s have beaten might of Westindies in Westindies and England in England. Meanwhile, where you have been when Bangladesh was trounced in WC?

Posted by bobagorof on (April 28, 2011, 23:51 GMT)

Baundele, that's exactly the sort of attitude that is stopping Bangladesh improving as they should. A sporting team needs to develop a core set of players who are experienced and reliable. You can't do that by chopping and changing all the time. Most of the Bangladesh players are in their teens and early twenties and are still developing. True, players like Ashraful should have been jettisoned years ago, and if a talented youngster keeps performing then they should be picked, but sticking with and developing 20 players is not a bad thing. How many players has Australia used in the same time? They've debuted 22, and 8 of those have only played one game (covering for injury or part of the revolving-door spinner policy). England have used even less. Players need a chance to develop, and they need faith. And the team needs stability. That's something that Siddons provided.

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 23:48 GMT)

Thanks Jamie Siddons for making Bangladesh a good team...Bangladesh improved a lot...........

Posted by Foxswoop on (April 28, 2011, 21:31 GMT)

@yashm95 - Siddons played first class cricket at a time when Australia were very, very strong. Most of the state teams from then would beat the majority of international sides from now. If Siddons was playing nowdays, he would be one of the first batsmen picked for Australia in all forms of the game.

Posted by mrgupta on (April 28, 2011, 19:27 GMT)

After their first 68 Tests Zimbabwe had Won 7 and lost 38 (W/L ratio = 0.184), After their first 215 matches (only against Test playing teams) they had a Win-Loss ratio of 0.30 and at this point they were challenging and winning against almost all the good teams until the political instability happened and took Cricket with it. Bangladesh has so far played 68 tests, Won 3 and lost 59 (W/L ratio = 0.05), played 215 ODIs against Test Teams and Win-Loss ratio 0.26. They have performed the Worst among all the teams till the given number of matches. They need to work really really hard or dig deep to identify what going wrong actually, because results are not coming in terms of number of Wins against Top sides. No Wins against either of India, Aus, SA or Pak in any format of the game in last 4 years. If they keep comparing themselves to a poor WI and Non test playing Ireland then there is no rise from here.

Posted by Ashique129 on (April 28, 2011, 18:37 GMT)

It might not be a bad idea to listen to what he says. I am not his biggest fan and am not sure how much of our improvement during his rein may be attributed to him alone. I do however feel that his points and concerns are genuine and has value in it. Frankly, the administrations now are way better and there is some dynamism. 5-6 years ago it was horrible. I say to our broad - listen to Siddons carefully. Now that hew is gone, you need not worry about ego or any other crap. He seems to have genuine concern for us and has provided useful suggestions. Why not use it? I mean, the guy isn't asking for money anymore, right?

Posted by Baundele on (April 28, 2011, 18:31 GMT)

Jamie Siddons is like the politicians of the sub-continent: blame always goes to elsewhere. His wrong strategy of sticking with the same set of players (20 max) for long 4 years had effectively shut the door to any youngster for the national side. And now after leaving he is suggesting for BD's domestic cricket build up and blaming the BCB for not renewing his contract. I have never seen him taking any responsibility for any bad performance. He has always used his preferred sample of statistics to show how great he is! It is the BCB's incompetency that they persisted with him for long 4 years. BD needs a coach like Kirsten, who talks less, works more.

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 18:01 GMT)

I really respect Siddons to have the courage to let out all the nonsense that is going on behind the scenes at Bangladesh Cricket Board. He has done a LOT for our team and it's a shame that they have not renewed his contract.

As a Bangladeshi, it hurts to say this but it seems like the pain from losing is not enough for BCB to consider serious changes. Unless Bangladesh gets knocked out of a WC event by a non associate team, BCB will probably never take matters that seriously. India is a great example of this after their poor performance in 2007 WC but they have used that as great motivation to get back strong this time.

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 16:21 GMT)

Well, thanks to Mr. Siddon for his comments. If I were President of Board, I would have personally and officially asked Mr. Siddons to give a written report identifying weaknesses, strengths, and suggestion for the future. More so, I would have asked him personally about the organizational difficulties that he had observed. Any such brief by an exiting Coach would have been invaluable. But ego of President worked more.

Looking at data, I find a positive development in the cricket arena of BD. I have a strong feelings that there remains some internal rift about running the Cricket. Those rifts (ego too) are negative by nature (BD Nature). That is affecting Cricket.

The media (with exception) damaged the cricket. Their injudicious analysis/report was a damaging factors too-they were supposed to know reader's characteristics.

Last, our tendency of pulling VERY HIGH and INSTANTLY DROPPING is another issue. Paying too much to players as AWARD is a stupid before significant achievement.

Posted by Praxis on (April 28, 2011, 16:04 GMT)

Anyone who is following Bd cricket team's matches regularly will admit that Siddons has done a real good job with the batsmen. These young guys are far better than their predecessors(like Atahar, Hannan Sarker, Javed Omar, Bashar, Saleh....). The spinners are good if not great but they lack variation. However the pace bowling is still very weak. But its true no matter how much goodwill and money are there the politics and corruption among the admins harms the process the most.

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 15:10 GMT)

I think that BCB should take Siddon advise (or comments) very seriously instead of taking it personally.Whatever he told the ESPN, he was 100% right. If BCB takes his advise as a guide line, it will help Bangladesh Cricket. Still I think that Siddon should get more time with Bangladesh National Team and it would be good for Bangladesh. BCB should understand that a Coach can't do anything in field, its player duty to execute Coach plan. Unfortunately Bangladesh players were unable to do it in many occasions. Jammie did the wonderful Job for Bangladesh Cricket. Bangladeshi Cricket fan will remember and respect his role for Bangladesh Team. BCB must bring quality coaching stuffs (Bating, bowling, fielding) for its Under 16's and Under 19's Team because these team would provide the future players for Bangladesh National Team. I think , if BCB bring back Siddon for their Academic head coach (Under 19 & Under 16) it will boost up Bangladesh Cricket. Siddon will be remembered always in BD

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 14:48 GMT)

Jamie Siddons: "Everyone tends to know what needs to be done but it doesn't seem to be happening." .....truely said Siddons...perhaps u 've revealed the nudest truth about Bangladesh Cricket.We won't forget ur contribution towards the development of BD cricket.'If u play well, u can beat any opposition in the world'----probably it was ur time when u ingrained this belief in our boys' mind(proof win against ENG in WC)...btw it's still a long way to go fr BD.

Posted by Itteza on (April 28, 2011, 14:39 GMT)

Every time coaches leaves a team for failure; they blame, they suggest and they depend what they did "Its countries dirty politics"

I think BD has progressed lot compare other countries around the world last 10 years. BUT they need more confident, consistency and organized with a game plan and proper guidance. selecting team, selecting captain, how to read a ball, face a ball, hitting a ball and bowling, fielding and finally meditating for mental improvement these should be major task for a coach. Not the countries dirty POLITICS.

So PLEASE DONOT blame.. taking Mushraffe out, making young captain, not knowing when do bat/field after winning a toss, loose fielding, specially bowling were the major coaching mistake in WC. Keep in mind learning how to read the pitch is biggest job for cricketers and Coach. When players more familiar with Pitch then only they can make decisions.

Batting first or fielding first or where to ball and how to bat. adios !!! Jamie Siddons .

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 14:26 GMT)

I had always liked Mr. Siddons, he has done a pretty decent job I believe, BD should have renewed his contract so that the team can forward in the same direction and planning, but as Bangladeshi we expect overnight results & successes which is never gonna happen, we got the Test status early which a lot don't agree but the reality as that shows in our Test results and performances, we may have little success now & then but to move forward we must restructure our domestic system and have to organize a lot more of 3/4 day games.

Posted by likeintcricket on (April 28, 2011, 14:25 GMT)

Well said Simmons. Four 200 scores on home batting grounds against weak bowling sides...

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 13:20 GMT)

Most Probably what he said about politics is right but this things are rife in subcontinent that does not mean BD should score 58 and 78 in home soil after all this years of cricket! According to Siddon, at last WC we scored three 200+ but this time around four 200+!! Only one more century than last WC and its in home condition! I dont see much improvement there!! I think Siddon is a very good couch and BD should have done well under him but truth is they did not, they improved a lot, no doubt about it but failed by far to meet peoples expectation. It is clear now that BD team needs a different kind of trainer. Siddon gave his all but came to a dead end and this is why his exit is justified. Goodbye and good luck to you...

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 13:00 GMT)

Politics and poor management is to be blamed. People in the cricket board should be held accountable. Need more consistency from the players!

Posted by AusieBangaleeShameem on (April 28, 2011, 12:57 GMT)

Thanks Jamie for your out-spoken brave assessment. I left Bangladesh for New Zealand in 1996 to see my son growing as a cricketer -- he played for Manawatu district reps team before finally settle here in Australia to become an Australian doctor. So I probably in the position to understand your frustration the most. Before your departure I rang my friends to Dhaka telling why they couldn't be able to retain one of the best coaches who served the team so professionally? The answer was "POLITICS". I know you'll end up getting a much better position soon but I really feel sorry for the poor Tigers who'll miss you a lot. However, may I request you please to forgive the most of Bangla Tigers who thankfully acknowledge your contribution? Please never forget "we're not succeeding due to some dirty politics played by few dirty politicians who unfortunately control the nation as a whole. I salute you Jamie! Hats off!!

Posted by Bang_La on (April 28, 2011, 12:56 GMT)

@Foxswoop, I had to accept your term "hardened" with a pinch of salt since it is true. Psychologically, Bangladeshi people are docile, compromising and soft. A good boy in Bangladesh is who has a soft demeanor and obedient and unchallenging. In the past, there were softy cricketers but the modern day cricket is completely different. Its dog-eats-dogs or savage cutthroat game. I personally think, the mindset of the players has to be hardened by professional mind-coaches. Besides, the infrustructure has to be upgraded. We can not do about the officials since these lucrative postings are made by the highest administrative authority in the country. @RakeshDash, what saddens me really is to read nobrainer comments fom Indian supporters who actually read their cricket history only since last few years. To straighten records, please go back and read the 75 years' history of Indian cricket and see what a whipping post they were!

Posted by wiseshah on (April 28, 2011, 12:51 GMT)

bangladesh in the same league like west indies and NZ, so why complain? its an achievement in short period. siddons have done great job. its bangladesh's politics who should be blamed

Posted by CricSamraat on (April 28, 2011, 12:49 GMT)

Improvement of BD Cricket should take overriding dominance over any self-enriching politics that will always be there like in any other nation. The people working for cricket should remember that their jobs and interests would take a severe beating if the Cricket were to go down instead of steady improvement. Criticism should be faced with a positive attitude - face it, dissect it objectively, and, draw action plans for improvement from it. Never, ever run away from criticism. Even the smartest people can make mistakes.

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 12:33 GMT)

Thank you very much Siddons.You have a lot for us.We will never forget you...:D

Posted by AndrewFromOz on (April 28, 2011, 12:25 GMT)

I'm a fan of Bangla cricket (and an Australian). Bangladesh's progress has been slower though the ranks than was Sri Lanka. I believe Sri Lanka had a huge boost from the captaincy of Arjuna Ranatunga. I know many say he was Australia enemy No. 1 but really he had a toughness that was sort of Australian in intensity. Maybe Bangladesh need to adopt the sort of anger and fire in the belly that was the mark of Ranatunga. Arjuna didn't say "oh goody we are making other teams chase bigger totals when they beat us". Arjuna and his team were angry and tough and hated to lose. As we say in Australia, if you want to learn to win, you have to have mongrel in you. So Bangladesh, learn to hate to lose and learn to hate the other team and learn to sweat blood for your country. The world of cricket needs Bangladesh but it is up to you. Don't let us down.

Posted by shamimkuet on (April 28, 2011, 11:30 GMT)

@RakeshDash..I don't think so..Bangladesh has improved a lot..don't you observed at Bangladeshi recent performance..Sure you will do..

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 11:15 GMT)

bangladesh is at a state at which india was at 20 years ago (and to some extents still is)..... it will take another 20 years for people to grow out of such bad habits......

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 10:52 GMT)

it has always been the politics 4 which we r going down.......

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 10:39 GMT)

well done Siddons....u have done a lot for us. we will remember forever.

Posted by BDHUNTER on (April 28, 2011, 10:35 GMT)

Cricket of BD never shines if they r not able to escape from Nasty,blind politics of BD.Even i think no one will be interrested to coach bd, They can show lots of emotion but blind nation in sense of cricket...."Rome was not built in day" remember they should hold wht is better for them,Coach is a main thing off the field,but infield players r the main ,who are completely failed in WC.. Mind that India,SL needs 50+ yrs to strength their player pipeline with good cricketing Sense. But Now i think Bd has some player who can plays little with bat & ball ,but sense didn't develop yet in their mind. They have the best coach considering Irish,Zim but they displayed better that BD in WC.I can bet that Test player BD will lose 5-0 if they play with Irish in Irish..................

Posted by   on (April 28, 2011, 10:33 GMT)

Bangladesh has to go a long way.I am seriously tired of bangla fans who wants to compare other team previous performance with their current team.The standard of Cricket has gone to another level , so wake up.It is clearly evident bangladesh is not ready for the big league.

Posted by AnandaZaman on (April 28, 2011, 10:32 GMT)

Siddons quite cleverly subsided the fact that under his tenure BD has scored their two lowest scores in WC, and on home soil! And BD didn't score 200+ four times in this WC, as he claimed in the article.

Posted by Dashgar on (April 28, 2011, 10:30 GMT)

I think that the Bangladesh cricket team is easily the strongest it has ever been. Like Siddons says the statistics prove this. They are setting bigger scores, they are defending well more often. They are still the worst test playing nation (apart from Zimbabwe) but they are no longer so far behind. I think they need to play more cricket against teams like New Zealand, West Indies and Pakistan so they are given the opportunity to compete. They probably should have kept Siddons but he is gone now. They need to a new coach who will see the good that has been done and look to consolidate on it. The time has come for Bangladesh to move forward, retreating out of test cricket is the worst thing they could do.

Posted by yashm95 on (April 28, 2011, 10:25 GMT)

@Foxswoop How can u like him as a player when he only has played a single ODI scoring 32

Posted by Yolk_Eater on (April 28, 2011, 10:06 GMT)

there u go criclogan, ooh ok so i need 25 letters minimum, well here u go moderator........

Posted by AdvRah on (April 28, 2011, 9:33 GMT)

Was never able to understand what was the core set of players for B'desh around whom the new and fringe players could rally. And to not have the 'core' after a decade of Test cricket and presence of outstanding coaches is the bigger issue with B'desh cricket.

Posted by D_BOSS on (April 28, 2011, 9:24 GMT)

I don't think BCB made the right decision for not renewing Siddons job. I am a blind supporter of BD cricket team and a follower of its matches as well. I have seen the painful batting of BD players in the past. I still remember the loss against Canad in 2003 WC. But only under Siddons coaching, I have seen much changes in the batting approach of BD Cricketers. We Bangladeshi do mistake expecting dramatic result/ improvement from our cricketer. Unfortunately there is no shortcut way to do so. And I agree with the observations of Siddons. We should accept his suggestions.

Posted by RakeshDash on (April 28, 2011, 9:11 GMT)

For Sure, Bangaldesh doesn't deserve the test status. Its only Mr Dalmiya who did it. There have been numerous instances where fans crying out "look at other countries, how long they took for the first win...and all...". At the same time look at the money, facilities, foreign coaches which you are getting now were not avaialble at old times. BD should concentrate on ODIs and take a voluntary sabbatical from test matches like Zim did few years ago.

Posted by Foxswoop on (April 28, 2011, 9:04 GMT)

I've always liked Jamie Siddons as a player but I'm not sure what he has said from a coaching point of view is completely on the money. Some of the players under his coaching have made progress but some have gone backwards.

There just isn't a core group of five or six hardened cricketers leading the Bagladeshi team like there should be. Instead there is a 23 year old all rounder in charge and he is doing the best job he can. But what would it be like if he had a couple of 30+ gritty batsman (think Hussey, Chanderpaul, Kallis, Dravid etc) that you could build a side around.

There are none unfortunately in Bangladesh cricket at the moment (for varying reasons I accept) but the problem is, there doesn't seem to be any on the horizon either. Bangladesh are not going to go ahead until such time as there is some sort of hardened culture within the team.

Posted by shamimkuet on (April 28, 2011, 8:49 GMT)

Well saying. I also comply with his opinion. He has done a good job for Bangladesh cricket team. We need to sort our those plan and do as accordingly. Above all we need to deduct those politics.

Posted by CricLogan on (April 28, 2011, 8:09 GMT)

To the moderator, you will never allow me to post my comments do you?

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1st ODI: West Indies v Bangladesh at St George's
Aug 20, 2014 (09:30 local | 13:30 GMT | 09:30 EDT | 08:30 CDT | 06:30 PDT)
2nd ODI: West Indies v Bangladesh at St George's
Aug 22, 2014 (09:30 local | 13:30 GMT | 09:30 EDT | 08:30 CDT | 06:30 PDT)
3rd ODI: West Indies v Bangladesh at Basseterre
Aug 25, 2014 (14:30 local | 18:30 GMT | 14:30 EDT | 13:30 CDT | 11:30 PDT)
Only T20I: West Indies v Bangladesh at Basseterre
Aug 27, 2014 (18:30 local | 22:30 GMT | 18:30 EDT | 17:30 CDT | 15:30 PDT)
1st Test: West Indies v Bangladesh at Kingstown
Sep 5-9, 2014 (10:00 local | 14:00 GMT | 10:00 EDT | 09:00 CDT | 07:00 PDT)
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