Bangladesh in Ireland 2012

Bangladesh aim for T20 ranking spot

ESPNcricinfo staff

July 8, 2012

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Tamim Iqbal dabs the ball towards point, Ireland v Bangladesh, 2nd ODI, Belfast, July 16, 2010
Bangladesh expect a tough challenge in foreign conditions © Grameenphone

Bangladesh have a chance of breaking into the ICC Twenty20 team rankings during their upcoming tour of Ireland and Netherlands, where they'll play five T20 internationals. Bangladesh, who have played only six T20Is since August 2009 (the T20 tri-series in Zimbabwe was an unofficial series), are not ranked as they need a minimum of eight games in the three-year period. They lost five of their six matches and their only win came against West Indies last year in Dhaka.

"We know our record in T20 cricket is not good. We are still not good in the new format of the game," Bangladesh captain Mushfiqur Rahim told the Daily Star. "Due to lack of international matches we are not in the ICC T20 international rankings while even Afghanistan occupy a spot."

Bangladesh are scheduled to play three matches against Ireland in Belfast and a match each against Scotland and Netherlands in The Hague.

"We have a chance to break into the table if we can win matches on this tour. So it's a very good opportunity for us. The result was not as per our expectation on the recent tour of Zimbabwe but we are confident of winning the series against Ireland." Mushfiqur said. "Everybody has the self-confidence, but you know just self-confidence is not enough to win, rather you have to prove your skills. I believe everybody will be able to show their skills on the coming tour."

Bangladesh face a tough challenge in foreign conditions in which their record is poor. During their last tour to Ireland and Scotland in July 2010, Bangladesh lost an ODI each against Ireland and Netherlands. They also lost a match to Ireland during the World Twenty20 in England in 2009.

"Our experience against Ireland was not good at all, so this tour will not be an easy one for us. We don't have a good record away and you know we are going to play in different conditions. And you know in T20 cricket no one can be considered a big team. We may be favourites in the series but I believe Ireland are tough opponents."

The team will leave for the tour on July 11. The first T20I will be played in Belfast on July 18.

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Posted by serious-am-i on (July 11, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

@r0ketman: Bro, averages don't matter much, one not out innings is going to boost your average up if you have played min. no.of innings, one example for this is Sachin's Test Record against BD, and even Andy Flower's test record against India. Zaheer is a much better depth bowler than what Irfan Pathan or the Vinay Kumar who bowled lollipop full tosses in the matche against BD in the Asia Cup especially in the depth overs. His wickets might have not mattered but its the runs they gave away that did. Still I reckon BD is only improving is no way close to the standards of the top sides. One good factor is the rise of Shakib-Al-Hasan over the past few years. @jorosacric: So if BD wins a series in IRE u r going to say BD is better than the top sides sir ? Please for god's sake keep yourselves grounded, BD still has a long way to go, to be called as a good contender. SL were given lot of respect in 90's bcoz they were grounded even after their wins against top sides, BD has to learn that.

Posted by jorosacric on (July 11, 2012, 7:34 GMT)

Bored im,maddy20,lord dravid hope u guys will not disappear after the ban-ire series.then see u..

Posted by   on (July 10, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

@maddy20...I'd be reminding you if you're wrong mark my words because everyone thought Bangladesh will be down as usual at the Asia Cup but turned out that their silly predictions were totally wrong :)

Posted by maddy20 on (July 10, 2012, 17:28 GMT)

Ireland will beat Bangladesh hands down. Netherlands will probably too. I cannot believe that these guys are proud of their team beating India 3 times while losing 20 times. That just about sums up the situation doesn't it?

Posted by Breaking_Point on (July 10, 2012, 16:42 GMT)

If BD wins 'em 5-0 as they should,BD will be the 5th ranked t20 team :D & Dear anti-BD ppl-let's wait couple of weeks,shall we?

Posted by r0ketman on (July 10, 2012, 13:49 GMT)

@serious-am-i : We would have preffered to have Sehwag on the team, his average against BD prior to the century in Dhaka last year is a paltry 29 from 11 matches. His score of 175 on the 12th match brings his average back to 42, Tamim averages almost that much against India. Zaheer has taken 12 wk against BD from 9 matches, where as Mashrafe took 11 from 8 matches, and surprisingly Mash also averages 42 with the bat against India, almost as much as sehwag does against BD!!! The win against WI mentioned here is from last year in BD, where BD won the only t20 and the last ODI (out of the 3) they played against the official full strength team. I belive Gayle was missing from the team, but that would hardly be BDs fault.

Posted by serious-am-i on (July 10, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

@reyme: Some corrections sir. India was not at full strength in ODI for Asia Cup. India was with out services of Sehwag, Zaheer and Yuveraj, its not an excuse but that's a fact if you feel you have beaten first XI. BD beat second string West Indies squad may be you forgot the stand-off between WICA and WICB which resulted in WICB sending a second string side with a first time captain in Darren Sammy, who didn't even represent WI in the past 2 years was directly booted in as a captain. I don't know how you could do such silly mistakes with you so called "stats". Can u kindly explain what is this Asian Olympic Games ? So, you mean to say BD and Afghanistan did better than SriLanka, Pakistan and India in the league games & got to the finals. May god bless you sir.

Posted by satish619chandar on (July 10, 2012, 9:47 GMT)

@reyme : All the last time might change next time.. Even if not all of them, most of them WILL change..

Posted by sj_jemima75 on (July 10, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

Before some days of the Asia Cup, I went to the stadium and saw all of them practicing, in the dressing room they talked about only cricket, whereas other times they also bought in other topics, all of them were just too serious about it, I knew and felt that atmosphere in the dressing room was going to make them perform brilliantly. This was the effect of BPL and the premier league cricket. This time as national team's players also played in the premier league, all of them practiced cricket continuously for months and they showed what they can do, they are also going through a lot of practice now and have more matches before the T20 WC, I am pretty confident that they are going to perform extremely well.

Posted by sj_jemima75 on (July 10, 2012, 8:05 GMT)

We know that BD cric team is yet not strong enough to be compared with teams like Pakistan and India, but the current BD combination has proved to be pretty impressive, before this combination was set up we had no belief in the other players of the team except for Shakib, but even after Asia cup, in the Zimbabwe series the team proved to be as reliable without Shakib..., though they didn't perform well enough in the first match, in all the others they played impressively...., I'm not sure whether they can win the T20 WC, but honestly there is a chance, all of us who watch BD cricket alot like me noticed this atmosphere among them which has changed remarkably, they have united as a team...., and this will contribute a huge amount of strength to the team.

Posted by bored_iam on (July 10, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

"We are still not good in the new format of the game," Bangladesh captain Mushfiqur Rahim told the Daily Star......pray tell me which format are they good at? :-D .....

Ireland is also going to thrash them this series. Then no more excuses for not having a ranking. :-)

Posted by Shajadul on (July 10, 2012, 3:33 GMT)

BD has just played 5 T20's. It requires at least 8 to be in the ranking. After the tour BD will be in the ranking list. I hope they do well and win the series.

Posted by reyme on (July 10, 2012, 3:09 GMT)

Well the fact is last time BD played ZIM and South Africa (last month), BD beat them in triangular series. Last time BD played NZ, BD won 4-0. Last time BD played West Indies on Oct 18 2011, BD beat them. Last Time BD played ENG and crowd favorite IRE in World Cup, BD beat them both. Last time BD played AFG in Asian games final in Beijing, BD beat them and won gold medal in cricket. Yes BD won that tournament and it is the ASIAN Olympic Games. Last time BD played Srilanka and FULL Strength World Champ India in ASIA Cup, BD beat them! These are facts! Facts like daylight! Something nobody can change, no matter how much hatred someone has in his heart.

Posted by Akshaythekaxk on (July 10, 2012, 3:06 GMT)

I don't know why Indians comment on such small posts. Let BD fans enjoy their one minute of boasting of defeating a big nation once in every 20 attempts :P

Posted by Legaleagle on (July 9, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

Bangladesh should be demoted from test playing status and Ireland or Afghanistan should be promoted up.

Bangladesh has been playing cricket for a long time but they have NOT showed ANY improvement. After every loss they have same excuse- we will do better in next 50 years!

Posted by AMAZINGFAN on (July 9, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

bd is still a minnow.they never won any tournaments against top teams.they were lucky to reach asia cup finals other than that they acheived nothing to get compared with india.ind has won t20 world cup,two time world champions and former world no.1.don't compare school kids like bd with ind or pak....

Posted by g.narsimha on (July 9, 2012, 10:42 GMT)

I cant understand what for this arrogance , first time reached to a final in an important tournament that in u r own place no doubt good show but declaring u r better than india , in dreams man see what happened to u r a team in ZIM, IN JUNIOR ASIA CUP where u r team stood thats the right plasce at present , what a pity just 2 away series loses every body is having afield day in easing off there dis liking of india,in reality all these people cant stomack the rise of indian cricket on & off the field , but they got the opportunity in our recent away loses , in fact i found these , pakis, bd , some sl fans are still celebrating our eng, aus , loses more than those countries fans . the up coming series in IRELAND show u r right place in international cricket but i doubt u can win any of the matches .

Posted by Saddam_Rasool on (July 9, 2012, 8:53 GMT)

Its ridiculous to compare Bangladesh with any country especially India or Pakistan. Bangladesh has played just one good tournament as compared to India which has a proven record of over 60 years and they are currently world champions. No doubt that the recent performance is not up to mark but under Dhoni they have already achieved so much. Bangladesh needs consistent perfomrances for a year or so to be taken seriously at international level. I doubt that they can win against a very professional Ireland side in Ireland.

Posted by TheBlackMonk on (July 9, 2012, 8:51 GMT)

@Muhammad Aslam Mirza: Do you know how many Bangladeshi expatriates live in UAE as Pakistani and Indians? I don't think turnover is the real concern. I can bet, the stadium will be packed even if the pak fans don't show up!

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 7:32 GMT)

@BD fans, Pakistan can conduct home series for BD whether it is T20 or ODI in Pakistan. If Pakistan conducts series against BD in UAE, Turn out is very low and Pakistan have to bear high expenses.

Posted by Third_Gear on (July 9, 2012, 6:45 GMT)

SylhetiBangladeshiCricketExpert4u@ Totally agree with u. I doubt if India goes to ZIM tour they can win a single match with their toothless bowling attack and semi skilled fielding.Also lack of genuine and quality fast bowler is another cause.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (July 9, 2012, 6:42 GMT)

Now, what will be the excuse of BD fans? BD too was playing T20 from the starting itself. But still they are not able to achieve anything significant in it!. Why do not they not able to win the T20 WC like India, Pak ? So there is significant difference in the quality of cricket with them, right? Thats more excuses required.

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 6:19 GMT)

I am not an expert in cricket but I can say this BD has improved alot over the years. Top eight teams playing cricket for long time. If I am not mistaken, BD has beat all 8 of them in ODI format. India and England playing for long time. Before people start critizing about Bd cricket, just remember Bd is still fairly new to cricket. When England or India get trashed by other coutries, people don't critize them as much they do that to BD. It is so hard to win games when you are fairly new to the game, even umpire don't favor the underdog. Bd needs to play more international games. Asian world cup was the prime example, Bd almost won the final. India, Pakistian and Sri Lanka are very strong teams. I wish they would help other asian countries and their neighboors so they can play really good crickets. It is so easy to judge someone without being in their shoe. As a bengali person, who lives in aboard......................... I have to praise the Tiger. They don't get any help from anyone.

Posted by matchfixerpkn on (July 9, 2012, 6:12 GMT)

Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique ..yes bangla is best than india bcos they beat india in once in every 5 year ..oiut of 25 they won 12 games in oneday.. and test not to count.. du u know india lost only 2 times to bangl in oneday.. and bangladesh lost more than 20 times to minow likes of zimbawe ,ireland etc..

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 6:11 GMT)

all the people saying BD is better than India, Seriously face the fact, India is the World Cup Winners, a feat BD hasnt even gotten close to. Secondly, India were No. 1 Test Ranking for quite some time, again a feat BD is NO Where close to, unless in you think in your own little world that BD beat India what twice? makes them a better team then you sir are a tool.

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 6:07 GMT)

this will be a tough challenge for ireland since bangladesh have best combination than ever . batting look pretty solid in bangladesh line up with tamim at the top ashraful mahmudullahg riad sakib , in a different way bangladesh will be in tense since they must win all game no excuse for that

Posted by 9ST9 on (July 9, 2012, 5:20 GMT)

It is surprising that BD has a poor T20 Record, since the team has a lot of potential to succeed in that format - Mushfiqur, Tamim Iqbal and Shakib al Hasan are all good T20 material and their spinners ability to restrict batsman is useful in T20s , having seen their gutsy performances in the Asia cup I expect them to improve.

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 2:47 GMT)

I am very excited about this tour, as Bangladesh is going to place T20 cricket ranking. Go ahead tigers and show the world. We are not behind any level of cricket either test, OD1 or T20.

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 0:40 GMT)

Bangladesh should win all 4 T20s. they are a far superior team than Ireland and Scotland

Posted by reyme on (July 9, 2012, 0:29 GMT)

It seems some people just like to criticize BD just out of spite. They don't like BD no matter how well they do. I am sure they will criticize them even if they win the world cup! They will ignore all their success and find all possible way to demean them. Fortunately they are just few of them who are out there doing this. But it's does get irritating when they claim BD don't win anything when the fact is BD win percentage against top 8 teams are great in last 2 years and it's getting better. And if there was UDRS it would have been even better. I would encourage fans to actually watch BD matches live. BD is really an exciting team to watch and I am sure if you actually watch them play you will be pleased regardless of the outcome of the match.

Posted by   on (July 9, 2012, 0:22 GMT)

Good Luck BanglaTigers.....u'll win theses matches hopefully...take it EZ and go for it

Posted by SylhetiBangladeshiCricketExpert4u on (July 9, 2012, 0:01 GMT)

@serious-am-i - Zimbabwe is much better than India and will trash india anytime

Posted by siponus2007 on (July 8, 2012, 21:00 GMT)

chiled avenger how long bangladesh playing test and how long india playing test , but anyways i just wanna tell u one things that bangladesh is better team than india in odi and t20

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 18:42 GMT)

i don't understand when Bangladeshi will come up tothe international calibre. they have got good international stars like shakib,ashraful,tamim,mortaza,razak but they never come up to the expectations of international cricket it is always a 1 man show if they ever win any match no team efforts at all.

Posted by Shajadul on (July 8, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

I hope BD had a good neighbor country like Ireland has England where most of the Irish players are invited and learning a lot. In BD region, no one helps to improve BD cricket except the hard comments and comparison....BD is trying it's own and progressing slowly. I hope BD can do well in this series despite the condition....

Posted by sabbor on (July 8, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

Bangladesh missed an great opportunity playing Pakistan but then it was a April fool:)

Posted by hasib9 on (July 8, 2012, 16:31 GMT)

I think Bangladesh should never host countries that don't want to host us: India, South Africa, Australia. We generate enough revenue now and we should focus on our first class cricket.

Posted by FOTO on (July 8, 2012, 15:57 GMT)

I like how Pybus thinks and Mushfiq thinks.

Posted by joynal693 on (July 8, 2012, 15:19 GMT)

This is a good opportunity for the BD teams. The only problem is the condition where they need to click. I wish best of luck to them.

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (July 8, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

The only things that has pleased me about this young BD side is their consciousness about their short-comings. A good competitive side in ODI is yet to prove their capability in Longer & Shortest format of cricket. I still believe it's a 50-50 chance 4 both Bangali & Irish side though BD r favorite due to left arm spinners. BD have their best chance this time to prove them in T20 format against minnows despite foreign conditions.

Posted by serious-am-i on (July 8, 2012, 14:39 GMT)

@Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique : The most hilarious comment I have read on Espncricinfo. You are beating top teams once in a couple of years and you boast of yourself to be a great team that too comparing to the India. I think Zimbabwe is much better than BD at the moment brush aside Asia Cup.

Posted by cairo on (July 8, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

Best of luck TIGERS..........

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

Bangladesh needs to continue playing significant number of matches on a consistent basis and keep improving their game. They have been putting up good performances in recent times but their fans needs to be patient with them. They are still a relatively young team with mostly young players, most of whom are in their early 20's or so! These players are new to the international Cricket, therefore needs to be given time to adjust to the competitive nature of international Cricket. As a Pakistani, I support my native country but I also wish the Bangladeshi team all the best. Good luck.

Posted by DecisionPending_BD on (July 8, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

According to Ftp Bangladesh has 6 test in 2012 (pak,zim,wi). Now we couldn't tour Pak because of security and Zim tour is moved to 2013(maybe in August). Yet we will play only 2 test against West Indians in upcoming Nov. So thus how we play test!!! Now we are improving in our first class cricket as bcb have taken steps to contact with 120 cricketers from 8 teams. I think we should use our property and money well or others will doubt us. Let's stop their whining......

Posted by borhans on (July 8, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

In English condition just playing T20 is a foolish idea .they need to play odi or test to be good in this condition .Its like ICC just want to throw bangladesh in toughest condition without giving them chance to actually play a longer format .

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

@Imteaz Tishad , BanglaDesh missed the opportunity of playing against Pakistan on security grounds in April this year............................

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

Good luck Bangladesh. I hope you keep improving at a significant pace and keep winning more matches. Onwards and upwards guys :)

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

Funny thing this T20 ranking, if Bangladesh ends up winning all their 5 matches (which they are capable of despite tough days ahead) they will end up being one of the top 5 teams in T20 !!

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 12:18 GMT)

This should be an interesting tour as long as the weather stays away! I think both teams are evenly matched right now, though some of Ireland's players - notably Will Porterfield- are fairly out of form. Shakib vs O'brien should be a hell of a contest.

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

It's nt fare...we can play a good anyone don't invite we can't play..........r u understand@chilled_avenger

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (July 8, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

Its good that the Bang captain is speaking maturely and admitting their short-comings. That is the first step to Bang's much needed progression. The ability is there, they just need to think and play maturely.

Posted by g.narsimha on (July 8, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

TUAHIDULISLAMKHANRASHIQUE-I cant understand in what contest u said BD might drop down to the levels of INDIA do u think that u r team is highly ranked in all formets than india, the team whick is permently languishing in botton of all formets to all test playing nation how can say that, u r present ratings in test su r in bottom with 9 points, in odis again on bottom to all test playing nations with just 46 points .

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

Yeah it is on T20 they are not good at...test cricket and one day their journey has been laden with victories galore

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 11:16 GMT)

@chilled_avenger, Friend sometimes text does not describe the actual thing. Please dont misunderstand Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique as he has tried to describe the fact how India's quality in test matches recent past because of lots of T20s in IPL. He just told that if bangladesh focus on ODI and T20 theire level of cricket will be fall whatever it has been happened with India. Hope you understand.

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 11:08 GMT)

@Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique - "they might drop down to the level of India" ha ha ah...first try n win a couple of series with top teams then u can think of comparing ur team to the 3time world champions beats india once in every 5years then they think they r better than indian team lol

Posted by chilled_avenger on (July 8, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

@Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique What's with "drop down to the level of India"? Have Bangladesh ever even defeated India in a Test match? Or even managed to draw against them without any help from rain? The way Bangladeshi fans go on about the Asia Cup performance,I wouldn't be surprised if in week or so they start claiming that this Bangladeshi team is one of the Greatest Cricket teams in History! It was a decent performance,now move on from that. Z

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

IRELAND is more experience side than BD in T20 FROMAT!so yup,BD should not take them for granted. AND @ICC bangladesh only played 6 t20s in 3 years!!WOW!.how could you,ICC allot only 6 game for bd!?double standard!even afganistan played more t20 matches than BD!Sigh!

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 10:49 GMT)

@Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique...You have to understand that there is a very important reason why Bangladesh are not giving that much importance to Tests as compared to ODIs and T20s simply because they hardly even play Test match Cricket I mean in 2012 alone, Bangladesh will only be playing only just 2 tests whereas as other teams like England, New Zealand, West Indies, South Africa, Australia, Pakistan etc play between 7-15 test matches so that's why. Besides we're more than halfway through 2012 and Bangladesh have only played 4 ODIS all at the Asia Cup whereas a team like Sri Lanka have already played well over 20 ODIs so far this year so you see the problem?

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 10:48 GMT)

Bangladesh has been doing well in recent times but they still need to keep playing consistently to better themselves. BCB needs to organize more international matches more the team, especially test matches. This will allow the players (most of whom are young men, who have not played significant number of matches) to gain more experience and learn new skills. I wish the team all the best.

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 10:23 GMT)

Yes,it will be a very tough challenge against Ireland and Holland,because these two very good teams will be up for it to prove a point and have got nothing to lose.Bangladesh needs to get it's basics right,firstly not to underestimate them.Secondly to bowl and field with discipline.Finally not to give their wickets away by bad shot selections.These things were the obvious factors in the T20 tri-series in Zimbabwe.

Posted by   on (July 8, 2012, 10:14 GMT)

Bangladesh should not take them for granted. They should play their best cricket, as Ireland are dangerous team. In the T20 World Cup,we shud prove that The asia cup performance was not fluke. But I think Bangladesh is too focused with ODI and T20's and not tests. If it continues, they might drop down to the level of India.

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