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BCB awaits ICC security clearance for Pakistan tour

Mohammad Isam

December 22, 2012

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Shakib Al Hasan works one away behind square, Bangladesh v Pakistan, Asia Cup, Mirpur, March 11, 2012
Bangladesh is hopeful of making an announcement in the next four days © Associated Press
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Nazmul Hassan, the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) president, has said the decision to tour Pakistan is still "two to four days" away after his Pakistan counterpart Zaka Ashraf claimed that the BCB had confirmed that the tour was on. The BCB is awaiting a security assessment to be conducted by the ICC before making an announcement.

"In my opinion, we can reach a final decision in the next two to four days," Hassan told BBC Bangla Service on Saturday. "We will ask the ICC to complete their security assessment for match officials and the moment they finalise their stance, we can give our confirmation.

"It [the decision to tour] will somewhat depend on the ICC's decision. We need to know their security assessment. Our security team that had gone to Pakistan said the security is adequate."

Earlier in the day, Ashraf said the BCB had communicated its willingness to tour Pakistan. "We were in constant touch with the BCB officials and they have conveyed to us that the tour is confirmed," Ashraf told AFP. "They have also got approval from their board members and we are in touch for the schedule."

Hassan said that having agreed to tour Pakistan, there was no question of backing down. "We have committed to travel to Pakistan and it is my understanding that the commitment is minuted in an ICC meeting.

"Since we have made a commitment and if we think the security is satisfactory, I think we should go. We will see the ICC's security assessment and conduct our own assessment. We will adopt every possible precaution before going.

"Bangladesh has reached a stage in world cricket where it won't be wise to not keep a commitment. It could be used as an example in future."

Bangladesh's proposed tour to Pakistan hit a snag earlier this year when, on April 19, a Dhaka court order embargoed a series between the two scheduled for the end of April.

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent

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Posted by   on (December 25, 2012, 18:05 GMT)

I wish BD will go to PAK . and it will a full team with Sakib, Tamim.... and other all. All as BD best sight. But PAK must conform our security as best as posible. I hope it will be a historical tour.

Good luck Bangladesh.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 25, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

Lets just give Pakistan what they want and do them this favour because really, both teams cannot afford to lose eachother. Besides, if it does go successful likely it will not only it will be a positive sign for Pakistan in hosting International matches but will just make Bangladesh Cricket look good that they were the first team to actually have the courtesy to tour there. Don't forget that even before that 09 incident, Australia last toured Pakistan way back in 1998.

Posted by   on (December 25, 2012, 10:10 GMT)

we shall welcome BD team as our brothers,please come to enjoy our hospitality. BD team shall be given high security.SL security lapse was a big blunder.

Posted by   on (December 25, 2012, 9:01 GMT)

To Pakistani fans, please learn to respect other teams, as we were unlucky not to beat you in the last 13 years. Do not forget that we have defeated India thrice, Sri Lanka thrice, England twice, West Indies 8 times, and the least goes on. If you have trust on your young players, then field your second string team against our second string team. We are touring this for your sake, we do not care if Pakistanis do not come to BPL, I dont think your players will want to miss the chance of earning so much money. If Bangladesh does not tour Pakistan, we will see who does!

Posted by   on (December 25, 2012, 8:52 GMT)

@mazii, Bangladesh is a different team now. In their last 2 ODI's against Pakistan, Bangladesh almost won the match, and unless Shahadat bowled that dreadful over or Umar Gul bowled that devastating spell we would have won. I always felt Pakistan are a respectable team, but if you are strong, why are you afraid to play against us? No one wants to come to ur country, if we come it might help you not us!

Posted by Sadequl on (December 25, 2012, 8:41 GMT)

@ ĶămŘǻn Ŗiăz don't misread my comments & there is no Q of begging or anything in here & more over it is pretty good to have such bilateral series between south Asian cricket countries to have such as continuous basis. All due respect what ever you said is true & that's why infect BD is trying to give you the pay back too which you deserve but what sort of greeting messages you are spreading in here for BD team by saying "We DO NOT want a pathetic team" or perhaps "a third class B-graded team" !!! What sort of an example you guys are showing or putting in here & infect this doesn't prove much of a difference between those barbarian people who tried to attacked SL players in their bus as you know. Even days back you had another bomb blast incident in your country this month! So if you guys really mean you want cricket to back on your country then you should rather start thinking more positively for any guest team to visit your country not only BD but also for other countries as well.

Posted by khurdum on (December 25, 2012, 6:19 GMT)

ICC should come up with their strong voices louder enough to be heard and specific enough to be understood by all. We all are aware of the incidents happened with Srilankan players. What happened after that shootout in broad day light on the street? Condolence message from paki authority was not convincing at all. They just sounded phoney and empty. Have they paid any compensation to srilankan players? The answer is no. If ICC do not give clearance for other teams, then why they should give for BD only. If they give clearance, they should arrange matches also. Why ICC not sending their specialist team to check security system to ensure safety of cricketers on that soil? ICC shouldn't play hide and seek game with this vital important issue.

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (December 25, 2012, 2:05 GMT)

It looks to me fans of other teams are worried about the threat Bangladesh Cricket imposes chill guys its a good thing this is what Cricket needs, more emerging teams. I saw that under-19 game in the world cup on tv between India and Pakistan and apart from 2 don't look promising and had our Shakib, Tamim, Nasir etc played them their bowling, would've destroyed them but despise our Cricket all you want because us Bangla fans know what we're talking about times are changing.

Posted by The_Ashes on (December 25, 2012, 1:42 GMT)

Pakistan fans forget things easily, if Bangladesh can now give you a game all the way to the end against your old best players then just imagine what this team will do to your young replacements. Yes at the moment, Pakistan will still continue to have the hand over Bangladesh but tick tock tick tock...its going to come to an end sooner or later. Fact is Bangladesh have improved and will continue to improve even further especially when another BPL is coming with more matches where they will gain even more confidence and experience against players from other nations. By the way, I love Pakistan Cricket but please just admit it Bangladesh are becoming a force in Cricket on and off. Its all about the present and future for us but you guys are still thinking of the past. One Pakistan fan on here says young replacement will do a better job than the retired players really? who can do better than i.e. Ponting for Australia right now? Kawaja? hehehe

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 25, 2012, 1:24 GMT)

@Legaleagle: Rubbish! you have completely forgotten the youth system of the teams. Our under-19 team the future stars of Cricket leads you 6-5 so that 'talent' of yours when it comes to youth has gone straight to the bin. Bangladesh have the third best youth record of all the teams i.e. 17-8 win ratio over England, 4-2 win ratio over West Indies, 14-8 win ratio over Sri Lanka, 6-5 over Pakistan. The top run scorer of the under-19 world cup was a Bangladeshi and now at top level, has scored a 120 against the West Indies in the last series on his official debut so that argument of yours is clearly invalid based on these evidences good luck next time :)

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 25, 2012, 1:18 GMT)

@AK47_pk: Funny! Bangladesh youth team can match your youth team and if they can do that then just imagine what our experience young guys like Shakib, Mahmudullah will do to them the coming reality of the future is hard to take I know no worries though not the only ones. Bangladesh were a really weak team during the early years of 2000-2005 where there we no good coaches, facilities etc and players back then were amateurish where there wasn't any academies. Most of our current players made their debuts at very young age after 2006 not 1999 :P

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 24, 2012, 21:52 GMT)

Nobody gives a damn about Pakistan Cricket that's why nobody bothers to tour but I really hope Bangladesh just get this short tour over and done with so we don't have to tour again and other teams may have to if it somehow goes well. Pakistan has everything to lose which is why we're wishing you luck we're nice people happy holidays x

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 24, 2012, 21:46 GMT)

@AK47_pk: Bad joke! unlike our special guy, your average all-rounders still cannot achieve a test 100 and 5 wicket haul in the same test innings so yeah lol Pakistan Cricket future is unclear bigtime :)"

Posted by MaxFresh on (December 24, 2012, 21:24 GMT)

Pakistan fans look a bit tensed to me and find the future of their team hard to swallow. Even for that India tour right now, still using the same old players because their young ones cannot be trusted. Infact, most of their squad are well over 30 and still continuing to use old players like Misbah and Younis. Don't forget our under-19 team the future of Cricket has a 6-5 lead over Pakistan so that's the real proof of the 'talent' coming for the 2 teams so good luck Pakistan for the future give you lots of luck :P

Posted by MaxFresh on (December 24, 2012, 21:17 GMT)

A country like Pakistan can only dream off hosting International Cricket back. Unlike Bangladesh, they're not holding any tournaments. Don't forget Pakistan for some reason failed to give simple security to the Sri Lanka Cricket team but still we don't have answers...AK47_pk..our Shakib etc have skills you simply lack good luck for your future :P

Posted by KingAjmal on (December 24, 2012, 20:57 GMT)

Its funny some silly person is calling a team ranked number 8 as a minnow for eternity or something though just over a 100 countries play Cricket. Teams ranked from 7-15 in other sports is fantastic but in Cricket its bad lolz.

Posted by AK47_pk on (December 24, 2012, 20:47 GMT)

Lol at some dumb ppl saying their team will start winning soon cuz other team, s seniors are retiring. Many players came nd went since 1999 but bangla still havnt been able to win a single game against pak. When 1 retires, another 1 is ready to take his place. Start watching pak domestic players are atleast start following a bit. Ur shakib tameem etc wont be able to get in to our domestic team let alone senior lol. U players can play as many games as they like cuz talent comes naturally not by keep playing nd keep losing. U guys have big mouths. Wish ur team had a big enuf heart to win for u guys :p

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 20:34 GMT)

what you guys on about?? everyone is not legend if so then the word legend would be a synonyms of normal.

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (December 24, 2012, 20:25 GMT)

@PakiRocker - I think you should be playing for the national team instead of of doing what you usually do because seriously you are so knowledgeable in Cricket well done good luck :D

Posted by KingAjmal on (December 24, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

Not our problem if Pakistan cannot hold matches it their fault. If they threaten to withdraw their players from BPL so let it be, its their players that are missing out on money and IPL do not even take them. Our fans don't care whether these Pakistani players show up or not because they want to see their players perform. They let their players play in BBL even though Australia will never tour but threaten Bangladesh just shows who is having serious problems. I just pray nothing bad happens to our team and staff because this can seriously damage Cricket.

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (December 24, 2012, 19:43 GMT)

It wasn't Bangladesh team that promised to tour Pakistan but those politicians who are seriously disrupting Bangladesh Cricket. When I saw those Ban-West matches, those cameras always shows us the faces of those politicians which is sad because its shows that Cricket in Bangladesh have been mixed with Politics. There was an article on it recently on Cricinfo and we must make sure that Bangladesh Cricket is not damaged by them.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (December 24, 2012, 19:25 GMT)

As for this tour, I feel a last minute drama will happen from those Bangladesh management but really, a one-off one-day and t20 match will not make much difference especially for the bigger teams. Pakistan is by no means a safe place for other countries to come and tour for more than one week.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (December 24, 2012, 19:22 GMT)

Its true Bangladesh are an evolving team whether we like it or not but not only them but others like Ireland and Afghanistan but that just shows that the future of Cricket is very exciting and so it should be.

Posted by Legaleagle on (December 24, 2012, 18:43 GMT)

The argument that Bangladesh players are young, and have a bright future will only work if there is talent. Unfortunately, Bangladesh may have all these so called youngsters with questionable age records but they lack talent.

To be blunt, it doesn't matter if Bangladesh start fielding 16 year old or 18 year old players, age alone cannot carry a minnow. It is foolhardy to assume that after 10 years of cricket these young players will carry Bangladesh on their shoulders.

Bangladesh team doesn't have a single player that has an average that can stand scrutiny.

On the other hand, Pakistan team has exceptional talent lined up who will step into the shoes when the seniors retire. I cannot say the same for Bangladesh even after so called youngsters becomes seniors.

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 18:07 GMT)

The recent comments made by one of their ministers and one of their top scientist regarding their internal affairs suggests, even they are perplexed and situation is the worst in recent years. Even if Bangladesh returns unscathed from this short trip, I don't think other top test nations will easily agree to visit there.

The duration of this trip is not of much help to Bangladesh cricket at the risk of their lives. How much Pakistan gain by playing against such a "weak team" with no imminent solution to their internal problems ? Both parties are putting themselves into trouble here! Money....Money...and Money!

Posted by Moin13 on (December 24, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

i still dont understand why our team have to travel pakistan while other teams denied to go over there..our team just started playing some good cricket and we also got few world-class players in our team..if something happen to them in pakistan then who gonna take the responsibility??i feel bad for pakistan that they deprived from international cricket but they have to understand that pakistan is still not safe enough to organize international games...hope this tour will be canceled...

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 24, 2012, 17:28 GMT)

It seems our Pak friends are still blind to see what's coming so here's a challenge, ask your Pakistan team in those matches in the new year to field at least 8 players under the age 28 and Bangladesh will use most of its youngsters as well. You can still include players like Afridi but most of them your young guys so we can see which youth is the most promising. I want to see young Pak players like Raza, Barbar, Umar etc v our young team Tamim, Anamul, Mahmudullah, Shakib, Nasir, Rahim, Zia, Gazi, Mortaza, Rubel and Razzak - average age 24.

No point in Pakistan using players like Malik, Khan, Misbah, Ajmal etc because they won't be around long.

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 17:20 GMT)

Shazli, i dink u forgot 1999 CWC and plus have u forgotten we went to da final of asia cup nd almost beat u. not to mention our recent series win gainst WI. We have justified our position in limited overs circuit but about the loner format i agree wid u.

Posted by The_Ashes on (December 24, 2012, 17:14 GMT)

Its true though the Cricketing World is changing drastically especially with the amount of top experience players that have been retiring its common sense. 2013 is the year where Bangladesh have a chance to finally get rid of that minnow tag. Test Cricket will still be a problem but the improvements of Bangladesh is unavoidable especially in limited overs. The next 3 years of Bangladesh Cricket is very interesting.

I want to see Pakistan thrash Bangladesh in that 1 off ODI game not beat them just otherwise Bangladesh have obviously improved. I want to see a score of more than 280 by Pakistan if batting first and Bangladesh bowled out for less than 200 or if Pakistan bowling first, Bangladesh achieving no more than 230 and Pakistan winning by 6 or more wickets. Anything less i.e. win by 2 wickets or 30 runs by Pakistan is unacceptable against this team.

Posted by The_Ashes on (December 24, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

@mazii - What are you on about? read properly! that person said Wasim is a legend.

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

if bangladesh makes this tour, government of Bangladesh will certainly loss her public support by a huge margin. Specially youth does not want their cricket team to visit Pakistan in this condition. One of their minister has recently got killed in an attack. All bangladesh newspapers hence protest against this decision saying, if they can't protect their ministers, how can they possibly protect our cricket team!

Posted by mazii on (December 24, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

I find it very interesting when someone says that Wasim Akram was not a legend players. Isn't it hilarious that someone like Bangladeshi fans says that Wasim wasn't a legend. Like I said Bangladeshi fans are in a quagmire of illusion and for the team that has been getting consistent chances of playing against World class teams and the result was a static and inconsistent performance. This has been a habit of Bangladeshi fans of hurling rhetoric after an erratic achievement. And this series win against West Indies would likely to be another aberration rather than norm. Only time will tell to what extent they prove this is an aberration. This world never recognize those who just do things with words rather than actions. So, I want to urge some Bangladeshi fans for not to become too emotional. Bangladeshi fans are commenting on those things that have been and will be out of their reach and that is even a single win against Pakistan. You better kowtow Pakistan to do so. Cheers...

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

have been noticing some comments by Pakistanis......OK lets see if Pakistan can whitewash Bangladesh in their own ground. They will be fighting with those players who have now started beating giant teams regularly. If Pakistani fans are not up to date about Bangladesh cricket teams, then they should see the statistics of recent past of Bangladesh team and their performance. We are frequently getting better players than those found before. I am sure that Pakistan will be having a very tough time to beat Bangladesh in all matches. As far as beating the A team of Pakistan team is concerned, our A team is no way less than the other A teams of the world and sure they are not worth enough to beat BD team considering the recent improvement of Bangladesh team. We have already emerged as a strong competitors and will definitely beat Pakistan at least in one match in this tour. Pak should also see that they already had a hard time to beat BD in Asia cup twice times in a row. So b care full!!

Posted by Purbo23 on (December 24, 2012, 14:51 GMT)

PCB should thank BCB and the people of Bangladesh if the tour really happens rather than saying Bangladesh is not a good cricket team. It is not cricket, it is political things going on here, Judging the news from cricinfo, Bangladesh is only friendly neighbor Pakistan can request to. Since Pak is in no position to invite and convince other nations, they should ensure 100% security and safety of BD players.

As a Bangladeshi, I feel proud that pakistan come to us with a request for a match in their country. What a turn around !!!. The scenario was different 10-15 years ago. Who knows, we might start 2013 witn a series win. Good luck tigers.

Posted by Joamiq on (December 24, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

This is great for Pakistan, great for Bangladesh, and great for cricket.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 24, 2012, 14:38 GMT)

Also Bangladesh fans need to dream of being Pakistan A team or something? our youth team already owns your team you know the future of Cricket and that's proof enough where the talent lies so its not impossible for Bangladesh to beat Pakistan.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 24, 2012, 14:36 GMT)

Young players of Pakistan like Jamshed, Raza, Shehzad, Aamir, Barbar etc are promising but them better than talent wise like Inzamam, Yousuf, Kaneria, Wasim etc? I don't think so these retired players of Pakistan are legends. Jamshed is a good batsman but too slow in the field, Raza is a promising SLA spinner but Bangladesh has too many of them. Aamir is suspicious so despite his extraordinary talent, don't think he will ever play for Pakistan again considering how strict PCB is. Shehzad is okay but we have better young batsman plus despite his talent, its not good enough to cement his place in the team. Like I said, Pakistan are getting the upperhand over Bangladesh because of experience and a bit of luck but that's not going to last.

Posted by MKNM on (December 24, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

BD can only dream to win from PAKI

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 10:48 GMT)

@ Cric_info_pak , Just mind it , Bangladesh have no object to visit Pakistan . Pak cricket board and peoples pray to BCB , please visit ur country but last time BCB decline . Now this time , we are realized good for Pak Cricket also world Cricket we took some risk . But ............... mind it this tour is not final yet , any kind of red sigh ........ WE DON'T ......

Posted by Koark on (December 24, 2012, 10:27 GMT)

pakistan won with bd because all about their luck.....in fact pakistan is not a world class team...they are very ordinary and not consistent...Nzl, W indies are far better than paki....bd has much ability to beat them...but a small bad luck!!.....but soon Pak will be Banglawashed by Bd....

Posted by RAQ on (December 24, 2012, 9:40 GMT)

I sometimes wonder if Bangla team can even beat Pakistan A team

Posted by kamisid on (December 24, 2012, 9:02 GMT)

I am from Pakistan and i must say that we must thanks Bangladesh board for sending their team to Pakistan and helping us in reviving the international cricket in Pakistan ... Bangladesh is a good and have done few upsets. may be they won't be able to win any match in this series but as a Pakistani cricket fan, i would prefer to watch international cricket in my country instead of waiting for a competitive match. Still i think that this series can be a competitive one as BD has performed well recently. But for me having international cricket in Pakistan is far far more important than anything else and we must support and thank BD team if they visit Pakistan to play this series.

Posted by Shazli on (December 24, 2012, 8:56 GMT)

I don't know y PCB begging BCB for tour.... i think PCB suite that sort of plea if they want invite to AUS, SA , NZ or SL as well.... y BD ...who dose not justify his presence in Test or one day cricket....

Posted by mazii on (December 24, 2012, 8:56 GMT)

So, Bangladeshi fans really think Pakistan don't have replacements for the likes of Misbah, Younis, Ajmal and others. Azhar, Asad shafiq, Raza hassan, ahmed shahzad, Junaid khan, Nasir jamshed, Umar akmal and their are others. And these are those players who are actually performing. Especially Azhar, asad, Umar akmal, Rza hassan, Nasir jamshed have been performing well. And they have performed against World class teams. I think Bangladeshi fans are in illusion that other teams don't have good future players for replacements. And they think only Bangladesh have new world class young players. Isn't it funny that Bangladeshi think they have World class players those who can beat other World class teams. Bangladeshi fans think and in fact research to substantiate their points. I can just laugh at their claims that Pakistan don't have replacement against their aged players. Muhammed Amir's ban will end in 2015. Anwar ali, Muhammed Irfan and others are not great but good enough bowlers.

Posted by Wah0003 on (December 24, 2012, 8:52 GMT)

Instead of playiong a third rate team in Pakistan, PCB should focus on playing good teams in UAE. What good Bangladesh visit would do in promoting cricket? Let Bangladesh play with the teams like Afghanistan or Ireland.

Posted by Cric_info_pak on (December 24, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

why pakistan want bangladesh in there country ... bangladesh is poor team never win against pakistan.... please don';t call bangladesh .... try to call any good team if can't then leave it,,,,, bangla 's r not good for any thing and they have worse record agaisnt pakistan they should play there type of team like india who they win some time

Posted by Saburkhan on (December 24, 2012, 7:22 GMT)

@Syed Aatif Khan@-Please pray to Allah for the kindness of Bangladesh who wants to play in horrible place(Pakisthan).We are proud because we still don't have any player like Salman but,Asif and Amir.

Posted by sohan_faisal on (December 24, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

Bangladesh hasn't win against Pakistan in consecutive 28 games or something like that. But who cares? Bangladesh is a new side now. We're improving and improving fast. have you Pakiz watched Asia Cup? Yes you've won but now our team is putting up a big strong fight and in-sha-allah soon time will come when we will change the statistics...I sometimes feel that even after the bloody 71 war, Pakiz were getting strong support while playing in Bangladesh against any other team except Bangladesh. But ppl like Legaleagle are tarnishing that sporting image. For example, I will be supporting India for the first time in the up coming series and will be praying for India to win...

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 24, 2012, 5:35 GMT)

Yeah also Pak fans and fans of other teams who are worried on the rise of Bangladesh Cricket, Bangladesh are finally producing as well a good set of quality very young players like Nasir Hossain who is regular now and the best fielder of the Bangladesh team, Anamul Haque another good fielder who was the top run scorer at under-19 world cup back in August and then made his senior debut against West Indies scored a 120, Sohag Gazi a quality emerging spin bowler but this time a right hand off spinner plus a handy batsman and others like Mominul all pretty good fielders as well and now combine them together along with our experience young players and Bangladesh will at least be a very competitive side not a top side but a competitive side. If Bangladesh can somehow manages its fast bowling issues and create academies or something then Bangladesh will seriously be on the rise so good luck guys in filling these top retired players of yours recently and coming because our oldest is only 30 :D

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 24, 2012, 5:22 GMT)

Well like it or not, this tour a short one looks set to happen but since Pakistan fans argue that it will be so one-sided, then you might as well field most of your youngsters so we can see a glimpse of the future of the 2 cricketing teams because yes you're right, if you use your older senior players against us mix with youth then you are obviously favourites to win the games but if you take out the likes of Afridi, Ajmal, Younis, Misbah etc according to stats your young guys overall are just nowhere near as experience as our young guys and therefore have a big hole to fill soon. Pakistan 4 most experience YOUNG players according to stats so far to date at International level in all formats are U.Akmal in total 126 matches, A.Ali 36 matches, N.Jamshed 28 matches & Junaid Khan 24 matches whereas our young guys Tamim 168 matches, Shakib 178, Rahim 169 & Mahmudullah 120 big difference so yeah good luck Pakistan for the future because the cricketing world is changing now with retirements.

Posted by   on (December 24, 2012, 1:09 GMT)

who really want BD to come to our country...a third class B-graded team. Please dont come here we dont want to ruin the skills of our players. And to PCB ...it will not make any difference if BD visit Pak or not. Nobody takes BD cricket seriously.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 19:34 GMT)

According to a newspaper, Pakistan's interior minister thinks current situation is worse than 1969 and 1971! I really hope things improve in Pakistan and Bangladesh govt. should also take a note of this before giving permission to the cricket team to visit Pakistan.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 15:32 GMT)

@mazii...You're missing the point, the Pakistan team is not immortal and will eventually go through a massive transition. For now, Pakistan Cricket team will have an advantage and may still continue to beat Bangladesh but will it last? because I did an intensive research on statguru a few months back and Bangladesh Cricket future looks far more bright than any other nation when it comes to youth. Our senior players like Tamim, Rahim, Shakib and Mahmudullah have played for a long while now but they are still very young 23, 24, 25 and 26 years old and between them have played over a staggerring 500 ODI matches, almost a 100 test matches and almost a 100 T20 matches now tell me which young players of the other teams of those ages comes anywhere close? so realistically I doubt your or any other teams young 'inexperienced' replacements will be able to dominate these players with ease if your top players can't its common sense. The amount of players that are retiring is proof enough :)

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 14:58 GMT)

They can't even protect their own ministers, how could they manage to protect our players......

Posted by The_Ashes on (December 23, 2012, 14:54 GMT)

Shakib al Hasan the best all-rounder in the world. The youngest and quickest all-rounder in history to pick up more than a 1000 runs in ODIs and Tests plus a 100 wickets together.

Posted by The_Ashes on (December 23, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

@mazii:- What you say is true in some sense BUT your top players won't be playing forever and out of all the teams out there, the Pakistan team is the oldest and will obviously though still good but not as strong as once was will decline. Only reason why Pakistan has upperhand over Bangladesh in the senior level is because of experience. The future will be completely different though as our youth team already beats your youth many times.

Posted by sunnymachoo on (December 23, 2012, 14:15 GMT)

no one is begging anyone, please note!

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 14:07 GMT)

I think right nw bangladesh better go n support Pakistans cricket bcz they need our support ....

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

To all Paki fan my quistion is if a minister is not safe under the so called presidential how could a cricket team would be ? I really started to think Pakistans situation may improving but last few days of attack to t polio workers hlio workers and lately a minister got kild that proves it getting worst so just dream of guy Bd will be visiting you soon. Hope and expect a better team will come to you play forget about Bd will ever going there. Best of luck

Posted by mazii on (December 23, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

Tauhidul Islam Khan Rashique... The question isn't that who can beat whom, but the answer of your question is that how many times Bangladesh beat Pakistan and vice versa. My dear I respect your feeling. Your team beat West Indies 3-2. But do you really think that Pakistani side is that weak to be beaten by Bangladesh. When did the last time Pakistan toured Bangladesh and what were the results. I think all Bangladeshi fans should comment after actually beating Pakistan but before this all your rhetorical will not serve any cause. So, wait for that time when Bangladesh actually beat Pakistan. For me I can't see that time to come any soon. So, be reasonable out here if not then the time will tell where Bangladesh stands. Cheers and enjoy...

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 23, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

Pakistan can't even provide good security to its Politicians so you would have to be insane if you think they will able to provide security to Bangladesh Cricket team. Do we even know the answers to why the Sri Lanka team bus got attacked? where was the security back then? exactly! fact if Pakistan don't deserve to hold International Cricket again, might as well hand over their status to Ireland because holding matches at neutral venues all empty and costly is just damaging Cricket. The future teams are England, Australia, Bangladesh, Ireland, India, West Indies and South Africa since the Cricketing World is changing i.e. more retirements of top class players :D

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 23, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

@legaleagle: What? stop complaining like a baby and since you have so much issues with Bangladesh Cricket I suggest you arrange an appointment with Bangladesh officials if you have problems because your views are having no affect on Bangladesh Cricket as a whole so far but I know you won't since you're clueless but good luck! :P

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (December 23, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Actually the current situation in Pakistan is not good but lets give them what they have been craving for desperately so we can get it over and done with and don't have to tour there again and the other teams may if it does go successfully. Since Pakistan fans say it will be so one-sided then field your youngsters or most of the team with youngsters if you're so confident because quite frankly, we don't care if we lose these games badly as for us its the safety and well-being of our players that matter.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 11:18 GMT)

I am a Pakistani ,But I think that Pakistan is not suitable country to play cricket ! and I am ashamed of it ! the fact is that Pakisatn is a very dangerous country, Bomb Blasts , Firing is common here, even natives are not secure here , a very bad situation of law and order here , and I think decision of ICC is good , as if they provide the presidential level security to Players , spectators will still afraid of watching match , as people afraid of going to crowded places , First Pakistan Government should improve law and order situation such that a natives can feel secure , after that it will naturally easy for them to insure the world that we are an eligible country to host international Cricket .Otherwise another team will come , and if again some incident occurs than Pakistan will be Blacklisted for ever .

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 10:04 GMT)

There is guarantee of court, because a BCB official says there ll be no court tangles. bd isnt a minnow..i think u ppl hav forgttn ASia cup 2012

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (December 23, 2012, 9:56 GMT)

Some Pakistani fans feel security situation in Pakistan is good enough for anyone to travel. But already a MINISTER died along with 7 other people by a suicide bomb attack at Peshawar on December 22. So no need to wait for ICC Clearance. Pakistan is still unsecured. @ SapnerJadukar: Absolutely spot on mate. Few fans 4m both PK & BD r talking like politicians regarding this tour. Both BCB & PCB r doing same for their BPL & PPL. It's no matter of politics rather it's about betterment of cricket.

Posted by aussietough on (December 23, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

International Cricket teams will be high profile targets in Pakistan for years to come. Australia, England, South Africa, New Zealand, Zimbabwe, Ireland will not tour Pakistan for few more years. But South Asian countries like Sri Lanka and India may go after this tour of Bangladesh. So, this tour is very important to bring back international cricket to Pakistan. The only worry is no security is adequate for suicide attack anywhere in the world, let alone Pakistan. There is a civil war going on in Pakistan. No doubt this is a very brave decision by BCB. But only time will tell whether this is an wise decision too.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 7:59 GMT)

@ Mohammad Sadequl Islam ......Cumon BD Thankful to BD 4 what???u guys made a deal with us to help u get ICC Presidency and u would tour pakistan....did u 4get???? tit 4 tat BD....We helped u now its pay back time. we r not asking u favors ok its pure business u got what u asked 4 and now its our turn.... Dont try 2 make it look like we r begging u...we are demanding u 2 cum ok

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 7:58 GMT)

@Me_A_Gemini, Bangladesh just beat West Indies 3-2, and you are telling they r better than us????????Lol...... @Legaleague, people like u are spoiling the spirit of cricket, we are kind enough to tour an help u as a regional neighbour, but I think u are afraid that Pakistan might lose both games, and so u are scared. I think even a Bangladesh side without Shakib,Tamim, Mushyand Riyad can defeat Pakistan in an ODI....

Posted by pjbarua on (December 23, 2012, 6:42 GMT)

@Ahsan-cric-freak: ICC should not approve any test playing nation to tour Pakistan. It doesn't really matter what Pakis think about themselves. Security is the biggest concern for all.

Posted by ftitumir on (December 23, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

Finally someone is breaking the ice, Bangladesh is going to pakistan at any cost & the whole Pakistan nation should grateful to Bangladesh. Now forget everything, lets think about cricket.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 5:58 GMT)

Though it is in Peshawar, the recent suicide bomb attack on a senior minister gives the real picture; The security force are helpless actually! The following is an excerpt from the Dawn: "Peshawar SSP Imran Shahid told Dawn that although stringent security arrangements had been made, the suicide bomber managed to sneak in from an adjacent street."

God save Bangladesh!

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 5:33 GMT)

BDs are well poised to be force in intl. cricket and it will do them well to play a confident series against pakistan without real or imagined security threat. They can also work out a neutrlal location if this is reallt a concern much less any politics entering into thegame.....

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 5:13 GMT)

@SapnerJadukar.... brother bangladesh hasn't defeated Pakistan in any cricket format for 14 years. Pakistan has thrashed bangldesh for straight 28 ODI games if I am not wrong and this is the World Record for the most consecutive defeats for a team against any team. So how can u say that BD is not a minnow against Pakistan

Posted by anman on (December 23, 2012, 5:11 GMT)

I'm a Pakistani and a huge fan of Pakistan cricket. HOWEVER, Pakistan govt in nowhere close to providing security guarantees to any visiting teams yet, unfortunately! Since the ill incident of 2008, Pakistan has lost so many Pakistanis to terrorist attacks including some government officials who were said to have been provided official security lost their lives (Salman Taseer and now Bashir Balor). If BD is giving in because of Pakistani players in their lucrative BD t20 tournament, they are making a huge mistake! I would love to see international cricket in Pakistan too, but unless everybody feel safe here, it is not possible yet.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

pakistan have a world record against BD, 24 consecutive wins, in ODI, i understand if BD doesnt want to come, it will be 25 then....

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 4:27 GMT)

You legaleagle or what ever!....Who is minnow?...the country that u play against in Asia cup final?....and won just by luck?,....then afraid to say,Pakistan is also a minnow team...A good for nothing team from a good from nothing nation....BD should not visit Pak....If no other team is visiting then why should BD....saying BD a 3rd grade team is just an expression from a jealous Pak fan....Hope cricket will never return to Pakistan....it shouldn't.......And some of Pak fan saying WI should visit instead...which lost to BD in ODI series....lol...they call themselves cricket fan..

Posted by TheBlackMonk on (December 23, 2012, 4:04 GMT)

hahaha ... now some self-conscious pak fans are trying to get some self-respect after continuous deny from BD by calling it off! Deep down, they sure know their country is still not safe. Nevertheless, I seriously doubt if this tour will help anything to BD, this is barely a series. I don't understand, if security is that satisfactory then why don't play a full series, let's play couple of test matches, that's gonna help BD.

Posted by   on (December 23, 2012, 3:27 GMT)

this tour should happen as pak really needs it...

as a bangladeshi i would like to tell u all that BD is no longer considered a minnow in world cricket now..

if that was the case then why is pakistan begging us to come?

trust me.. if we go to pakistan and play ... we will come out victorious ...

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (December 23, 2012, 2:48 GMT)

I am not sure why cricinfo is providing so much coverage to all this. B'desh is an ordinary team that has not improved after playing over a decade. B'deshi fans seems to point out current flawed ranking system and take comfort that somehow they can compete against Pakistan?Here is the news folks, you have won ONE solitary ODI match against Pakistan in 12 years of your existance. B'desh has yet to prodice a talanted player who would be good enough to even fit in Pakistan's A eleven. B'desh people and board is an unthankful bunch. B'desh only got premature test statuus thanks to a blind support by PCB. No one in Pakistan cares about B'desh's tour to Pakistan. I hope this tour never goes ahead as Pakistani's are tired of beating B'desh. B'desh is a minnow cricket team and instead focus oin playing against likes of Uganda and Kenya. ( I consider Afgahnistan more talented and better than B'desh). Pakistan's owes nothing to B;desh and B'desh owes all. I would not even pay to watch B'desh!

Posted by Proud_GhorJamai on (December 23, 2012, 1:40 GMT)

Bangladesh does not need Pakistan as much as Pakistan needs Bangladesh,but Pakistanis tend to forget that. BPL will be the same without the Pakistani players,the Bangladeshi public wont care if Pakistanis boycott BPL .You will always have full houses as long as shakib,tamim,mushfiq,nasir are playing.

Posted by getsetgopk on (December 22, 2012, 23:52 GMT)

As far this security threat is concerned, our people of 180 million live there, our players live there and play cricket there day in and day out. We have a thriving domestic first class structure, all our players play these 4 day matches and T20 competitions on a regular basis where there is almost non existent security for those games, did anyone hear anything happened to these cricketers? The SL incident was a tragedy, the reason was an inept government and the worst cricket administration in Pakistan till date under Ijaz Butt. When Zaka says he'll provide it then we should be 110% sure that it will be safe. The ground on which Tamim and Shakib will play, Afridi and Hafeez will play too. We wont put our players in harms way, 20 kids in America were gunned down, that didn't stop people visiting and playing sports in America. Now focus on your cricket and try to make a fist of it, you have been getting a thrashing ever since you started playing cricket. Good Luck to both sides.

Posted by AzAb12754 on (December 22, 2012, 23:30 GMT)

Yeah its probably true if that short tour actually happened, Pakistan will most likely win but the question is will you win it comfortably like you should do? I doubt it. Fact of the matter is Pakistan is an old team and Bangladesh is a young team so beat us as much as you can now because it will all change in the future or coming era. You're not the only ones that have old players though so cheerios :)))

Posted by crotisn on (December 22, 2012, 23:28 GMT)

Thanks to Bangladesh for touring pakistan. Just one thing for fans of Bangladesh that the last incident was the part of politics of niegbhour country. That would't happen again because what our enemies want to achieve they already did. Every pak kistani's second favourite cricket team is Bangladesh. We love you guys ...y u hate us so much...we are brothers so we really appreciate you for this tour and wish you best of luck. Every cricket fan know that Bangladesh is just near to coming in top 5 especially after defeating WI.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 22, 2012, 23:26 GMT)

Pakistan fans: Yes we know you're a great Cricket team but disrespecting Bangladesh not all but the silly few like that will not get you anywhere. The fact is its Pakistan who have asked Bangladesh to tour so don't blame us blame yourself or board and if you don't want to play us then ask the other teams oh wait! they don't want to tour. If this tour does God forbid go wrong then we can for sure say International Cricket will never return to Pakistan so don't blow it good luck! :D

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 22, 2012, 23:21 GMT)

@legaleagle:- Problem? glad the rise of Bangladesh Cricket scares you get use to it :)

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 22:31 GMT)

Personally I do not support this tour. Pakistani people may have got used to with all these rocket launching incidents, but to us Bangladeshis its new, and we haven't really seen such chaos since 1971. I do respect Pakistan cricket team. They are a gem in the world. However, if they needs match practice I would request them to visit Bangladesh for a longer version of the game. Rather than taking this game into a war zone. Would love to see Bangladesh and Pakistan facing each other. But not in Pakistan. I don't even mind if its in Dubai or in India.

Posted by TigersCanKill on (December 22, 2012, 21:52 GMT)

No cricket playing country cares if Cricket is going back to Pak or not; of course other than Pakis themselves. That is why no one is agreeing to play in Pak. Pak is begging BD to play in Pak for quite a while and all the credit and honor goes to BD since they kindly agreed to do so despite the risk and opposition from many sources. Please try to understand that it is neither the result of the matches nor the number of games played is important here. The only important things are the cricket politics and acknowledgement of Pak as a host nation. One more thing...if you have doubts about BD's abilities; stop useless talking and check their recent results now...you don't have to leave this site, it is right here in CricInfo.

Posted by wiseshah on (December 22, 2012, 21:45 GMT)

dont worry BD fans, high court will stop it like last time. so no body will get killed in pakistan. hope pakistan can find kenya team to play in pakistan.

Posted by Cricket_Only on (December 22, 2012, 20:51 GMT)

Folks,, Not every response which you read on this page is from the country they pretend to be from. How do you know "Legaleagle" is from Pakistan, he can be from anywhere. So ignore these comments. No body knows the consequence of BD visiting Pakistan, but atleast there will be some cricket and at the end of the day ALL I WANT IS CRICKET TO WIN. Among these responders are some who are State Sponsored Responders whose job is to make sure we contnue to hate each other while other nations make fun of us and we don't want them to win by hating or cursing each other. PLEASE PLEASE print it

Posted by hasib9 on (December 22, 2012, 20:48 GMT)

If BD doesn't tour Pak, no one else will.. Not for another 3 to 4 years. Before demanding a tour from BD, Pak needs to realize that this is a favor. And you cannot demand favors; you can only ask. @Legaleagle: bro you need some basic education, so let me help you. If BD was third grade, Pak is not even in the grading system. Economically we have improved so much faster since 1971. We are much richer culturally, and we love our cricket. We generate ICC more money than Pak can dream of. And above all these, our neighboring countries actually like us! We don't go around attacking Sri Lankan players in the bus. We are far more civilized than that.

Posted by SapnerJadukar on (December 22, 2012, 20:20 GMT)

@Leagaleagle... A 6 th ranked team calling a 8 th ranked team minnow!!!!! You must be the king of your wonderland or deniel of truth or the biggest joker of all time!!!! Wondering did you born during Bhutto's era before 1971...if so then not wondering why you always put hostile comments to BD cricket. Come on guy, peace is the only way to go forward...

Posted by Ahsan-cric-freak on (December 22, 2012, 20:12 GMT)

Bangladesh hesitating to tour a test nation ?? the biggest lol of my life:D

Posted by Syed_imran_abbas on (December 22, 2012, 19:52 GMT)

We will wellcome you in Pakistan.. How long will you deprive such a rich cricketing history nation from home cricket. Cricket has to come back Pakistan.. its just a matter of today or tomorrow. What i really feel sorry is for our young coming talent as they dont chances in side matches like home series and prove their skills.

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 19:51 GMT)

suppose d security assesment by icc is satisfactory n bcb confirms d tour..is there any gurantee that there wont b another stay order frm court??

Posted by Me_A_Gemini on (December 22, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

@Legaleagle: Well said brov.... this tour will not improve anything. PCB should act like a respectable cricket board as their team is playing very good cricket all around the world. I urge PCB to call off this stupid 2 match tour which will not improve anything for Pakistan. A three match tour with at least a side like WI will do something for Pakistan.

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 19:34 GMT)

Pakistan fans are forgetting that its you who is asking for this desperate short series not us. We don't really care if Cricket returns in Pakistan or not as its not our business. But even if this proposed series does go ahead, I pretty much doubt it will convince other nations.

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 19:17 GMT)

Legaleagle @ fyi, cricket is a gentlemen's game & if have your personal war against BD's performance then throw it to some place else lol. Don't forget BD will be tested here as a gimping by making this tour in Pak. Where as no other country is ready for it yet & they are doing as a kind of feed back & as a well wisher of Pak's cricket. Therefore what ever the result of this series will be, will have an ultimate effect of Pak's future cricket without any doubt. So be thank & grateful to to BD team & give a warm welcome for this positive initiate which they are taking for the sake of Pak's cricket along with cricket's globalization.

Posted by SapnerJadukar on (December 22, 2012, 19:15 GMT)

Bring it on....give them a game that they want!!!! Should send the full strength team, no one sits at home.

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 18:53 GMT)

Leagaleagle doesn't want to play against Bangladesh... He thinks they are third grade... LOL... and against this third grade team, Pakistan were almost down in the last few occasions... and so now, he wisely doesn't want any further exposure of Pakistani weakness... Remember, Pakistan is 5th in the ICC ODI ranking and Bangladesh is 7th... Anyways... All the best to Pakistan... I hope cricket returns to their land... Let their citizen have something to cheer at least...

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 18:38 GMT)

The sense of superiority was the main reason for the downfall of Pakistan. It is the main reason for the problems they have right now and it will be reason for their future loss as well.

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 18:31 GMT)

As a Bangladeshi, I would say that BCD should stop drama. They should go ahead to Pakistan tour. Pakistan helps a lot to our Cricket and now its our duty to stand behind Pakistani Cricket. No politics here please..........if "Footbal God" Maradonna willingly to go to Iraq.........why Bangladesh sacare to complete ther promise. I think that Pakistan is much more safer than IRAQ. Only difference here..........International Media is Iraq friendly but they are not FRIENDLY WITH PAKISTAN. So I hope that Bangladesh Cricket Board will not involved any politics here. Pakistani Cricket needs Bangaldesh help now..........and we should give them our helpful hand....no hunky punky here please.

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (December 22, 2012, 18:21 GMT)

@ Legaleagle & Umar Dar: U may call it off but no other team than BD will tour PK. Yup, BD is a 3rd grade team among Test playing nations but still they r Asia Cup runner up & has beaten WORLD T20 champ WI in ODI series this December. Legaleagle personally feels security situation in Pakistan is good enough for anyone to travel! But on DECEMBER 22, 2012, 8 people died including A MINISTER at PESHAWAR by a suicide bomb attack. If u call it SECURED & SAFE, then let us know the definition of security & safety.

Posted by Sadequl on (December 22, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Legaleagle @ fyi, cricket is a gentlemen's game & if you can't re-call it then it's your own problem & if have your personal war against BD's performance then through it to some place else lol. Blind supporters can't look the positive out come from anything, no matter how good you show & highlight the scenarios. Don't forget BD will be tested here as a gimping in here by making this tour in Pak where as no other country yet ready for it & they are doing as a kind of feed back & as a well wisher of Pak cricket. Therefore what ever the result will be, will have an ultimate effect of Pak's future cricket without any doubt, so be grateful & give a warm welcome to BD team for this positive initiate which they are taking for the sake of your cricket along with cricket's globalization.

Posted by CricLook on (December 22, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

I dont think it will be wise to tour Pakistan at this moment. Honestly speaking there is little sign that indicate the security situation will improve anytime soon. Commitment is a strong word but not so strong as the life threat. BCB please consider it again coz..everyday there is some horrible news on Pakistan. Pakistanis themselves should also understand this, its not just the game but a whole lot more..

Posted by aslamPK on (December 22, 2012, 17:59 GMT)

I fear, after getting the N.O.C for Pakistani players for BPL, BCB is going to back-out again. Alas Our brothers are going to deceive us again...............I wish I am wrong.

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

bangladesh should play atleast 3odis and 1t20 , that would make this series more vital

Posted by   on (December 22, 2012, 17:48 GMT)

Call it off......let Bengalis enjoy....

Posted by Legaleagle on (December 22, 2012, 17:45 GMT)

I wholeheartedly denounce this proposed tour. We DO NOT want a pathetic team to tour Pakistan. If Pakistan cannot have cricket then let it be but PLEASE no Bangladesh. They are third grade!

Pakistan should not start international cricket if better teams are not ready to come. I personally feel security situation in Pakistan is good enough for anyone to travel. We want competitive cricket with a competitive team in Pakistan, not a minnow!!

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