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ICC may end rotation system for president

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June 6, 2011

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Alan Isaac, the ICC vice-president, at the ICC board meeting, Dubai, October 12, 2010
Allan Isaac was only appointed ICC vice-president after former Australian prime minister John Howard's nomination was objected to by a number of boards © Getty Images
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The ICC is planning a significant change to the governance of the game by scrapping the rotation policy currently in operation for appointing presidents. The change is likely to be put up for endorsement at June's annual general meeting of board members in Hong Kong.

Under the current system, Pakistan and Bangladesh - the two members who are to put up the next candidates for president and vice-president - are both believed to have objected to the change. "We don't agree with the proposal of change and we have shown our reservations to the ICC," PCB chief operating officer Subhan Ahmed said. "We are in touch with the ICC over the matter and will decide the future course of action soon."

ICC sources, however, confirmed to ESPNcricinfo that plans are underway to change the rotation policy, which was the main topic of discussion at an ICC governance committee meeting in Chennai last week.

Such a change may have had its genesis in the fate that overtook the former Australian prime minister John Howard when he was nominated for the ICC vice-presidency in 2010. Howard, the rotational choice of Australia and New Zealand, was rejected out of hand by other nations, causing heated debate at last year's annual conference in Singapore. The New Zealander Alan Isaac was ultimately chosen instead.

When the post of president was first created at the ICC, each full member appointed one man for the post on a rotational basis: Jagmohan Dalmiya from India, Malcolm Gray from Australia, Ehsan Mani from Pakistan and Percy Sonn from South Africa were the men appointed under this system.

In 2007, the system was tweaked and the post of vice-president was also created. Though rotation stayed as a policy, nominations now came from pairs of countries: Australia-New Zealand, West Indies-England, India-Sri Lanka, Pakistan-Bangladesh and South Africa-Zimbabwe.

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Posted by Nutcutlet on (June 7, 2011, 19:38 GMT)

Hands up all those who want Pakistan to run anything? The exception proves the rule!

Posted by khurramsch on (June 7, 2011, 15:13 GMT)

rotation policy is good that way each country wil get chance other wise it will be aus , eng always. besides if they want to end this then end this when once each nation gets 1 turn. why change now when others have it & bangla havent?

Posted by satanswish on (June 7, 2011, 12:08 GMT)

Current ICC president Pawar looks like door-to-door salesman who sell toys.

Posted by Hassan.Farooqi on (June 7, 2011, 12:02 GMT)

@K.A.K. "I am trying to figure out if Cricket is transforming into a soap opera, an action thriller, or a mob-drama?" Thanks to financial success of IPL, the entire cricketing world is now turning into what Vince McMohan of WWE calls "Sports Entertainment". Pretty soon you will see even the test matches pre-scripted to the ball, just like IPL

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (June 7, 2011, 4:09 GMT)

lets make Ijaz Butt as president, ha ha ha....

Posted by   on (June 7, 2011, 1:39 GMT)

GUYS did you hear there have been many tornadoes in the US in the last weekk?? I BET THE BCCI had something to do with them.. I figured since BCCI gets blamed for everything, they should get blamed for this as well..

Posted by faheem103 on (June 7, 2011, 0:58 GMT)

PURE DISCRIMINATION!!!! LIKE CLOSE YOUR EYES AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.. EVERYONE IS SLEEPING.... ZZzzzzZZzzzzz....

Posted by Joji_ on (June 7, 2011, 0:03 GMT)

I am a Pakistani and used to be a die hard cricket fanatic!! I have not hesitation in accepting that governance in PCB is mediocre to be polite. But what every body here fails to realize is that we should think about this move not from a nation's perspective but from a cricketer's perspective. Pakistan cricket is not at its worst juncture, there is no doubting that. But since I am familiar with the cricketing culture in my country, it doesn't bother me a lot, they will bounce back ! But this decision is so transparent in putting forward the interests of more powerful board then crickets' that it is just pathetic. This resonates with the decision of limiting WC to 10 nations. Now the weaker nations with less than amiable cricketing culture are being sidelined. I truly miss the 80s and 90s when cricket was played with passion and furry not for the $$ !!

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 23:50 GMT)

@andyZaltzmannshair - this is the nature of the beast - democracy as long as its us! mind you it would do Pakistan a favour by getting rid of mr butt! 2 Butt's (no pun intended) have done their level best to destroy Pakistan cricket !

Posted by getsetgopk on (June 6, 2011, 19:09 GMT)

@AndyZaltzmannsHair you cant be more correct bro that sums up everything i guess

Posted by Rezaul on (June 6, 2011, 18:48 GMT)

Its an amazingly disbelieving news that is shocking for most of the people no matter whether they are cricket fan or not because we want the democratic system everywhere to rule over autocrats and pessimists. The presidential rotation system was being working nicely. ICC had presidents from all quarters and the next term comes to a small nation (Bangladesh by default as Pakistan had Ehsan Mani last time) and thats the time for muscular nations to show their power and deprive the weaker nations and scrap off the rotational policy in order to make sure that Bangladesh doesnt have a president. Remember that being the neighbour India is yet to host Bangladesh in a full series and the proposed FTP by Indians do not have a series as well. India just need Bangladesh when their a vote in place otherwise its all about neglecting saga. I guess India and its other muscular allies are scared to have a president from Bangladesh raise their voice against the injustice.

Posted by donda on (June 6, 2011, 17:24 GMT)

If you want to really destroy ICC as an organization then make Ijaz Butt as president and some WI member as Vice.

You will see they will make ICC best example for new generations.

Do what ever ICC you want to do , but can you fire Ijaz butt from PCB. please.

Posted by Stark62 on (June 6, 2011, 17:20 GMT)

Do people here actually realise butt could be out of the chairman's post?

With what is going on with Afridi and the board, it could very easily spell the end of butt and his tyranny.

When Afridi arrived back in Pak, there were thousands of fans at the airport to greet him. Fans will help Afridi kick butt out and then, a new chairman will be appointed (I hope it's Imran Khan).

This is pure discrimination against both Pak and Bang!

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 17:17 GMT)

well if evryone is against this move then for ZEUS,Jesus,Vishnu,Krishna,Buddha,Allahs sake stop whining and make Asif Ali Zardari [aka mr 10% president] and Ijaz Seymour Butt the VP of ICC

Posted by Stark62 on (June 6, 2011, 17:05 GMT)

Why get rid off it?

I like this rotational system!

It makes the cricketing world a bit more fairer place rather then, having one country have their representative as the president.

@ nlambda Great comment!

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (June 6, 2011, 17:03 GMT)

The article gives a hint "Such a change may have had its genesis in the fate that overtook the former Australian prime minister John Howard ". We indians think AuS/Eng boards are behind this. But our neighbors(read who belong to the land of conspirators) think its always BCCI, the culprit.But who cares. @Raja Suhail Akhtar Jalap, @ROLAYH Dont want to talk about that peon stuff. But wait your Butt is a proven administrator right? LOL. And it is the same butt who prevented your pak team from participating CLT20 not BCCI/india. But u guys point fingers at others.

Posted by BDKu on (June 6, 2011, 16:37 GMT)

No process seems to work in a way that England and Aussies get what they want. So they will try a new thing. When that fails they will bring another. There is one way to make sure that only English, Aussies or New Zealanders get these positions. You can write a rule to say that these positions can be held only by whites. How can it be that Pakistani and a Bangladeshi is heading the worlds governing body when Howard couldn't. That cannot be accepted.

Posted by nlambda on (June 6, 2011, 15:50 GMT)

Ijaz Butt for President! And someone from WICB should be Vice President :-)

Posted by AndyZaltzmannsHair on (June 6, 2011, 15:39 GMT)

More pathetic self interest governing the game. Democratic process goes out of the door as soon as the "smaller" nations have to be listened to. Isn't it always the case that the ones who shout "democracy" the loudest are always the first to rescind it when it doesn't help their interests.

Posted by loveNpeace on (June 6, 2011, 15:08 GMT)

international cricket is on sale and surely India will buy it........................ cricket wont last for long.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 14:55 GMT)

How come,Eng-NZ-Aus are escaping all eyes...? Give them their share of Blames as well...GO INDIA GO...!!! Rule the Cricket World for the next 200 yrs. This is the second Phase of Colonialism where India & the Subcontinent rule the rest of the world.Infact,Pak & Ban should also come in with us.In any case IJAZ BUTT would have been injurious to the health of International Cricket...

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 14:41 GMT)

Popcorn - feeling happier now that you've had your go at BCCI and India for all the ills that are perceived to have or actually befallen cricket ?? Of course it is all the fault of India and Indians, IS'NT IT? ......keep going, hahaha...certain situations (and statements) have a tendency to backfire, remember, sir ! And i eagerly await the day when that happens...

Posted by Ramesh-IT on (June 6, 2011, 14:38 GMT)

@popcorn: Ya India is ruining the game. Your John Howard would have uplifted the game and spread it to at least 200 countries. Don't make foolish comments mate. ICC is not India alone. There are other members as well. I'm sure harry Potter fans in Aus and Eng would feel Voldemort is an Indian and a cousin of Sharad Pawar.

Posted by getsetgopk on (June 6, 2011, 14:12 GMT)

Ijaz Butt definately deserves a post at ICC but not that of president or vice president rather he deserves the post of head toilet cleaner at ICC and Afridi should be president of ICC Afridi is a true asset world cricket needs him

Posted by K.A.K on (June 6, 2011, 13:12 GMT)

Come on, let's have Zardari as the next ICC chairman and Bilawal as his vice-president; I am trying to figure out if Cricket is transforming into a soap opera, an action thriller, or a mob-drama? Every other day, there is something to entertain us from the cricketing world.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 13:11 GMT)

That is a great decision. Well Done ICC. Once again u proved that how amazing ur. From now on Only India will rule the cricket or may be sometime Australia and England if BCCI allow them to.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 13:11 GMT)

Another article about ICC another thread about bashing the indians for all evils in cricket as if the BCCI was the inspiration of Dante Alighieri Divine comedy (inferno)

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 12:59 GMT)

But why can't the next person be from Bangladesh?

Posted by popcorn on (June 6, 2011, 12:44 GMT)

I sincerely hope Alan Isaac is strong enough to tell BCCI where to get off. Enough of financial muscle. India is ruining the game of cricket.

Posted by Jim1207 on (June 6, 2011, 12:24 GMT)

ICC governance meeting happening at Chennai? Looks like chennai has become centre of the world at the moment. MathewJohn: People blame BCCI for everything because many people have accustomed their life such that they don't get sleep in night if they had not criticized BCCI at least once on the day. So, let us not feel bad about that, it's good that everyone is happy at the end.

Posted by tfjones1978 on (June 6, 2011, 12:23 GMT)

Thank goodness wise heads finally pervail. Whilst I thought that Howard would have been good for Cricket, he was politically disliked by some of the panel and would have created trouble. However the problem came that it was not fair under the current system for him to be rejected. That said, a new system where the President and Vice President are decided by the majority will work better. They could also have it that they need all 10 votes to decide the President and vice President, being 6 or 7 for Pres and 3 or 4 for Vic Pres. The Vic Pres should only be of the remaining votes. Meaning that the vote would be for Pres and Vic Pres with all 10 needing to vote for one or the other (min of 6 Pres, 3 Vice Pres), and thus 9 of 10 nations would have to support either Pres or Vic Pres for them to be voted in.

Posted by Y2SJ on (June 6, 2011, 12:11 GMT)

Thank god BCCI was not found in 1930's. Else BCCI would have been blamed for both the World Wars.

Posted by UltimateCricExpert on (June 6, 2011, 12:10 GMT)

Here are the new rules. The BCCI president will be automatically elected as ICC president. The vice president will be directly elected only by President. The ICC cheif secretary will be elected based on Voting system but the condition is he should of same nationality of President.

Posted by Haleos on (June 6, 2011, 12:09 GMT)

@uno.numero and @mathewjohn2176 - well said guys. I think the problem here is jealousy nothing else.

Posted by Katawazai on (June 6, 2011, 12:00 GMT)

BCCI is rocking. PCB and BCB are sleeping. Let PCB resolve their own issues. they cant handle international issues. PCB will be sleeping until ijaz butt is there on the chairman chair. He really does not deserve the chair

Posted by uno.numero on (June 6, 2011, 11:46 GMT)

I don't know why my previous comment was not published though there was nothing offensive in it.

Those blaming BCCI and India, I would like to know how did you jump to conclusion that BCCI is behind this? And do you think other boards will let it happen if they don't wish so? Nobody has faith in Pakistan's administration and moreover, I don't believe it was done because Pak-BDesh were next in line for ICC presidency. Thos eblaming IPL destroying Cricket, blame SLC for SLPL, CA for Big Bash, PCB for domestic T20 competition and well as ECB for their domestic T20 competition - Friend's life T20 too. They too are lending their big hands in 'destroying' the cricket.

People just blame for even cough and cold they have on BCCI. Jealousy isn't going to make their team win matches nor will the financial power of BCCI.

Posted by razz86 on (June 6, 2011, 11:37 GMT)

they are all scared of IJAZ BHATT, just imagine him being the head of ICC that's one scary vision lol

Posted by mathewjohn2176 on (June 6, 2011, 11:16 GMT)

I am from Sri Lanka and even though I don't support this move.its unfair to bang/ pak but I don't understand why everyone in the comment section blaming about BCCI,IPL and India.There is no link in it and the article just say ICC may end rotations policy.why everyone blaming BCCI for each and everything whatever things going on cricket currently.It's not even decided but we are quick to jump guns. Even though I am srilankan it's quite irritating to see comments in cricinfo ..just one way all the time (blame Ipl and Bcci)..hope we look in to improve our own country rather than blaming others.

Posted by marar on (June 6, 2011, 11:08 GMT)

common guys.. why to blame BCCI and IPL always whenever ICC takes some decision? you have to accept that IPL create a huge fan support and lots of peoples ( not only from India) eagerly following it. India did it right ( starting IPL ) before the other boards.. dont be so jealous about it

Posted by kzaman on (June 6, 2011, 10:54 GMT)

Its not fair... The turn of Pakistan and Bangladesh should be completed and then ICC could think to change the system... Its injustice......

Posted by Spicy17 on (June 6, 2011, 10:51 GMT)

Guys, from where ever you are just listen and have patience and pray for the cricket as its in BCCI's hands and they will do what ever they want we cannot stop or even all the remaining 9 boards cannot stop them, the next thing coming soon is going to be ICC future tour plans will be based on IPL schedule. there will be window in IPL plans for international teams to paly for their countries and for the one who posted that he dont need any outsider other than inidan TV viewer, come on be realistic, you IPL is nothing wihout international players.

Posted by rnarayan on (June 6, 2011, 10:49 GMT)

Maybe the post will be auctioned? Seems fair to me.. This way it will be in tune with the true spirit of cricket, ie the commercial spirit.

Posted by JohnnyRook on (June 6, 2011, 10:44 GMT)

Yet another post about stupidity of ICC and yet another load of anti-BCCI comments. Tell me dear readers, what in the article makes you think that BCCI wants it and not the CA-NZ-Eng block. If this suggestion has come because of John Howard fiasco, chances are excellent they have brought this to the table and not BCCI. For all practical purposes BCCI would want somebody from subcontinent as ICC pres instead of someone from Australia since the subcontinent fellow would most likely be more pro-BCCI. Just think and apply some logic but then it is obviously more difficult than writing some venom spewed comments filled with jealousy. So I guess, continue with the latter...BCCI/IPL/India corrupt... BCCI/IPL/India evil...blah.....blah.....blah..... :-)

Posted by rajkwt1980 on (June 6, 2011, 10:32 GMT)

this change are welcome, otherwise a useless like ijas butt become the president of ICC

Posted by malepas on (June 6, 2011, 10:31 GMT)

Another pathetic BCCI plan to keep the Pak out of any power and in turns to have any influence on the decision making process but on the same tune, Pakistan have not serve themself any better by keeping a buffoon like Ijaz Butt on the chairman's post while the whole country wants him out, the politics, the devisions and in-fighting is providing such space for boards who have axe against Pak to conspired and ripped them to thier rightful selection which should not be changed at any cost. This is BCCI/CA and ECB cooked plan to keep the powers to themselves so they can dectate the rest of the cricketing world, pitty how BCCI joined this supermacy agenda which took decades for Asian nations including India to eradicate.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 10:28 GMT)

Biased ppl..... nuff said

Posted by akshaysabnis on (June 6, 2011, 10:25 GMT)

@ BoonBoom - You put laughter on my mind on an other wise dull Monday morning Horn.ok.Please that one was really awesome

Posted by Balldinho on (June 6, 2011, 10:23 GMT)

The new FIFA has officially arrived....

Posted by Shafi79 on (June 6, 2011, 10:20 GMT)

I have nothing against Pakistan but i would support this decision just to keep Ijaz Butt away from the ICC presidency.

Posted by Badgerofdoom on (June 6, 2011, 10:16 GMT)

Difficult decision, there is a risk of creating a monopoly here but on the other hand some boards (i.e. Pakistan, WI) are so completely incapable of running their own cricketing affairs that giving them a go at the ICC seems madness. Imagine Ijaz Butt as ICC head, he should not even be allowed outside without supervision.

Posted by arvindhsuperking on (June 6, 2011, 10:13 GMT)

indian cricket board was maximum insulted when it was poor during 1970s' and 80s' by CA and ECB...now india is dominating....whats wrong

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 10:07 GMT)

As I hinted at, this change will make it all about India, Australia, England and South Africa NOT India alone.

Posted by Pandeyjii on (June 6, 2011, 10:01 GMT)

Any answers! Why my comments are not published frequently? Do we stand to know the policies of MODERATION by you?

Posted by JAKhan on (June 6, 2011, 9:53 GMT)

Why is every one blaming India. Where in the post do you see India is planning to do so and so... It states "The ICC is Planning...". However, I myself donot accept the planning. I believe, Pakistan and Bangladesh should be given their opportunity. And probably after that, when all the countries are done with the nominations by 2014, they can go ahead with this plan.

Posted by John-Price on (June 6, 2011, 9:25 GMT)

Pakistan's idea of a good administrator seems to be Ijaz Butt. I suggest that that his behaviour alone represents a good reason to exclude them from the presidency.

Posted by Ramesh-IT on (June 6, 2011, 9:15 GMT)

It's really funny to read the comments here. As if all the evils in the world are caused by India and IPL!!! This is a decision by ICC and not BCCI. The ICC members who took this decision are to be blamed, and not the IPL. Anyways, if you don't like the IPL why can't you just avoid it? There are 1.2 billion people who likes it and it don't need a single overseas TV viewer.

Posted by saran_1705 on (June 6, 2011, 9:05 GMT)

Why does any discussion about everything thats happening anywhere in the cricketing world has to boil down to BCCI controlling ICC???? I think everybody needs o think rationally. BCCI is definitely one of the strongest boards in India. But that doesn't mean that we want to destroy Pak and Ban cricket using the power.If our governing bodies really wanted to be aggressive about the indo-pak situation, they would have showed the intent long back in many different ways. More over, a Pak representative being the ICC President wouldn't improve the crisis in Pak cricket world because the issues that are being faced by them are created by them as well. Sit down, have a glass of water, cool your head and think unbiased for once and you will know that Pak cricketing issues are of their own making.

Posted by AdnanKayani on (June 6, 2011, 9:00 GMT)

welcome to ICC (INDIAN CRICKET COUNCIL), great job Mr Haroon and Pawar, why don't you people create another cricket body like you have done in case of champions league and BAN the PAKISTAN out of it in every possible way

Posted by Horn.OK.Please on (June 6, 2011, 8:50 GMT)

The puppy at Chepauk died yesterday. Speculations are rife that BCCI has a hand in the crime.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 8:49 GMT)

I suggest instead of this rotation policy, a democratic way of choosing the President, will be advisable which FIFA is following. Some countries are not good in controlling the ICC due to their own domestic structure and internal problems which may endanger the future of ICC.

Posted by Saim93 on (June 6, 2011, 8:47 GMT)

Just when a Bangladeshi or Pakistani come for the position it has to chnage. They can never be put into a position of power as long the ICC is run by the current management.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 8:40 GMT)

@ROLAYH only a Peon and nothing beyound that.. They don't even deserve to be even Peons or watchmans...

Posted by Zahidsaltin on (June 6, 2011, 8:27 GMT)

SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA DO IT THEN??? Should there be voting to choose a president?? Are we gonna have one super power or two?? It's crazy idea. India's money will go on to get all the votes and therby we will have Mr. pawar sitting until he lives. Cricket is getting hijacked and no one bothers to stand up to it.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 8:24 GMT)

This is all just politics !!

Posted by ROLAYH on (June 6, 2011, 7:41 GMT)

@Meety..an Indian (or pro-Indian) should be appointed as the President, Vice President, secretary, head of all important division....till the peon....

Posted by BoonBoom on (June 6, 2011, 7:41 GMT)

India will one day destroy Cricket.... IPL is just the begining of the end of this game of gentleman. In my opinion, only England should be allowed to have the top post and no other country must be allowed to present their nominations.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 7:35 GMT)

I see this change disadvantaging more than just Pakistan and Bangladesh in the future. I see this having an impact on Sri Lanka, New Zealand and the West Indies as well. The 4 most powerful boards will seize control of world cricket in a way which will hinder the above nations.

Posted by Ali-Sial on (June 6, 2011, 7:29 GMT)

This is obvious discrimination towards pak-bang. Atleast try to be a little discreet. Btw i dont understand the need for change, the system has worked pretty well up until now in my opinion. I mean i think all ICC presidents have been fairly decent.

Posted by Aussasinator on (June 6, 2011, 7:25 GMT)

This will be a difficult phase for ICC. Pakistan cannot be allowed to govern the game. Australia is itching to get back to handling affairs so as to restore the white man's domination and begin manipulations once again. Team Australia seems to be needing this badly. The South Africans are a bit laid back compared to the Australians and the English need a leader. Every zone in the world has cricketing issues and aspirations despite this. But the best leadership can obviously come from quarters where the game is allowed to flourish rather than from quarters which are looking to cut the Indian influence to size, which can only lead to further complications. realism needs to be the order of the day rather than the obvious vendetta against India which Australia is leading.

Posted by ajventures on (June 6, 2011, 6:44 GMT)

This is going to be an open discrimination towards Bangladesh and Pakistan, if they make this change. I wonder why this thought never came to ICC when candidates were selected on rotation from other countries? Does not it explain ICC is in total control of some other cricket body? I wonder if this is not another move by ICC to create more problems for those two cricket loving nations. I wonder if ICC, who is too scared of being dissolved by the strong boards if they take any right action against the strong boards for their wrong-doings, is willing to put itself on fair trial for their own biased and discriminatory acts? What justice we can expect when the, so-called disciplinary governing body is not operating fairly if they make this move. I expect on behalf of hundreds of million people from these nations to keep their representation in cricket for the betterment of this game. I hope justice prevails here.

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 6:41 GMT)

Well ICC is playing in the Hands of India and India wnat to make sure that the Cricket in Pakistan and Bangladesh is destroyed.. They can never see any Pakistani or Bangladeshi on the Post of President or VP...

Posted by   on (June 6, 2011, 6:31 GMT)

So, now India don't want Pak-Ban to come to power, and thus applying this at the end of Power's regime. Brilliant.

Posted by Meety on (June 6, 2011, 6:16 GMT)

Change to what???????????

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