ICC news June 13, 2014

Southee jumps to fifth spot in ICC rankings

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Tim Southee has achieved a career-best position of fifth in the ICC rankings for Test bowlers after taking six wickets in New Zealand's win over West Indies in Kingston. He has also moved up a spot to claim seventh position in the rankings for Test allrounders.

Southee, who had figures of 4 for 19 in the first innings, has jumped three places in the bowlers rankings, and is behind only Dale Steyn, Ryan Harris, Vernon Philander and Mitchell Johnson. The top five spots are all taken by fast bowlers, while the next three places are shared by spinners in Saeed Ajmal, Rangana Herath and R Ashwin.

Southee has become New Zealand's highest-ranked bowler. His closest rival is fellow fast bowler Trent Boult, who has dropped two places to ninth position after claiming one wicket in the Kingston Test.

Mark Craig comes in at 53rd position, making him the third-highest ranked New Zealand bowler. The offspinner made an impressive start in Kingston when he claimed 4 for 91 and 4 for 97, the best bowling performance by a New Zealand player on Test debut.

For West Indies, Shivnarine Chanderpaul has leapfrogged Kumar Sangakkara into second position in the rankings for Test batsmen. Chanderpaul scored an unbeaten 84 and 24 in Kingston, and he now trails top-ranked AB de Villiers by 41 ratings points.

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  • xtrafalgarx on June 16, 2014, 6:01 GMT

    @StevieS: What on earth does that prove? Average's alone are not a good enough reflection of a bowlers impact. Strike rates and volume of wickets should also be considered, Johnson's strikes at around 50, he has always been a little wayward and therefore tends to give runs away quicker than most when not on form, but he has always been a wicket taker - even during his bad days.

    To compare Southee to Johnson is farcical to say the least. I'm a New Zealander who now lives in Australia and i know that as NZer's we always want to get even with the Aussies. But i'd be the first to admit that the NZers have a long way to go yet before they want to be talked about in the same sentences ans Harris and Johnson.

  • chihazit on June 14, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Southee and Boult may not set the world on fire pace wise but both, with their swing and accuracy, are claiming wickets very cheaply at the moment, in all parts of the world. Pleased for both of them to be recognised and be in the top 10. They along with the likes of Williamson, Taylor, McCullum (302), and Neesham have taken NZ 2 spots up the test rankings, somewhere they have not been for several years.

    Judging by some of the negative comments on this thread, I'll presume there are a lot of "nationalists" on this site. Just because a bowler from your team is not on the list, or one from another country is higher, does not make them a bad bowler. They obviously must be reasonable if they are playing test cricket.

    How about showing respect for players doing well regardless. I'm a New Zealander and was absolutely rapt Sangakkara about an hour ago picking up his first 100 at Lord's. Or for Mitchell Johnson wrecking havoc against Eng and SA, purely because I enjoy watching good cricket.

  • Min2000 on June 14, 2014, 11:31 GMT

    Clever move by Hesson and Co to appoint former kiwi quick Shane Bond as bowling coach. NZL has a small army good young quicks for him to work with right now -- Southee, Boult, Wagner in particular have all improved noticeably under his tutelage. He's also done a lot of work with Milne.

  • on June 14, 2014, 10:01 GMT

    Tim Southee since his drop from the team post South ASfrica series early August 2012:

    14 Tests, 73 wickets @ 20.67 at 2.8 RPO.

    In that span, tied 3rd in total wickets with Ashwin (who had insanely helpful dustbowl Indian pitches + insane amount of overs bowled), second best average and strike rate (among strike bowlers) behind Mitchell Johnson.

    Statsguru doesn't lie. No he doesn't have sheer pace or the intimidation factor that Steyn and Mithcell Johnson do thus why he's been 'unnoticed'.

  • StevieS on June 14, 2014, 9:48 GMT

    Tim Southee's Away average (entire career) 25.72 Mitchell Johnson's (entire career) 31.51. I am not saying that Southee is a better bowler, I am just saying. Jamie Moneghan, Duncan never said that Boult and Southee would be 1 and 2 he said they could be the premier opening bowling unit. I could open the bowling with Malcolm Marshall in his prime but that would mean we would have the worse opening bowling unit in the history of international cricket.

  • pietime on June 14, 2014, 9:37 GMT

    Wow thanks for all the negativity from all you unhappy people. So much anger from people. Imagine having half the skill of these cricketers. I agree totally with all you positive people specially people who are not from NZ or the West Indies.

  • on June 14, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    @Shane Bond, well said. I was pretty certain Southee was injured for the South Africa series, we needed him badly there. Boult seems to have a bit more pace at present and is a very good partner to Southee for us, and things will get interesting once Matt Henry gets an opportunity to play for us in tests. We have a strange depth problem that we've almost never had now, who do we leave out and for what reason? Only person I know for a fact needs dropping right now is Fulton.

  • on June 14, 2014, 4:41 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan Southee was injured during both South Africa and Bangladesh tour. Lol, look at the facts mate then comment. @Sixfourout. Southee for past 2 years has an average of 21.17 with an average of 16 in away tests. He missed South Africa series with injury. I didn't see Mitch playing in subcontinent. Southee picked wickets in Sri Lanka, India, England and now West Indies. I remember my father saying once "If there's one thing an Aussie can't fathom is a Kiwi doing well". Lol, now I understand it pretty well it seems.

  • on June 14, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    Its good to see west Indians and Zealanders getting top of the rankings! coz ranking system is so biassed its accustomed to see Indians and Englishmen kept higher although they do not perform! see where Alistair cook is!

  • SixFourOut on June 13, 2014, 23:34 GMT

    I'll admit I have never rated Southee, it just seemed the guy wasn't getting any better, but now he's hit a good year of form, but then I stand by my judgement that his form will be temporary and that class is permanent.

    He deserves his spot in the ratings for now, because his form shows he has absolutely earned it, but the test of any player is how long you can be more than just a temporary top ten player. Mitchell Johnson has ripped through the very best team in the world and embarrassed very good English batting line up, but not unlike Southee, he's been erratic and had a high average, that is only just coming done now.

    Personally, I think the Kiwi's are behaving like the English tend to and reading way to much into some performances and frankly It's premature and a little short sighted.

    Boult and Southee will never be the "premiere" bowling attack, they lack the pace, but also the accuracy.

  • xtrafalgarx on June 16, 2014, 6:01 GMT

    @StevieS: What on earth does that prove? Average's alone are not a good enough reflection of a bowlers impact. Strike rates and volume of wickets should also be considered, Johnson's strikes at around 50, he has always been a little wayward and therefore tends to give runs away quicker than most when not on form, but he has always been a wicket taker - even during his bad days.

    To compare Southee to Johnson is farcical to say the least. I'm a New Zealander who now lives in Australia and i know that as NZer's we always want to get even with the Aussies. But i'd be the first to admit that the NZers have a long way to go yet before they want to be talked about in the same sentences ans Harris and Johnson.

  • chihazit on June 14, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Southee and Boult may not set the world on fire pace wise but both, with their swing and accuracy, are claiming wickets very cheaply at the moment, in all parts of the world. Pleased for both of them to be recognised and be in the top 10. They along with the likes of Williamson, Taylor, McCullum (302), and Neesham have taken NZ 2 spots up the test rankings, somewhere they have not been for several years.

    Judging by some of the negative comments on this thread, I'll presume there are a lot of "nationalists" on this site. Just because a bowler from your team is not on the list, or one from another country is higher, does not make them a bad bowler. They obviously must be reasonable if they are playing test cricket.

    How about showing respect for players doing well regardless. I'm a New Zealander and was absolutely rapt Sangakkara about an hour ago picking up his first 100 at Lord's. Or for Mitchell Johnson wrecking havoc against Eng and SA, purely because I enjoy watching good cricket.

  • Min2000 on June 14, 2014, 11:31 GMT

    Clever move by Hesson and Co to appoint former kiwi quick Shane Bond as bowling coach. NZL has a small army good young quicks for him to work with right now -- Southee, Boult, Wagner in particular have all improved noticeably under his tutelage. He's also done a lot of work with Milne.

  • on June 14, 2014, 10:01 GMT

    Tim Southee since his drop from the team post South ASfrica series early August 2012:

    14 Tests, 73 wickets @ 20.67 at 2.8 RPO.

    In that span, tied 3rd in total wickets with Ashwin (who had insanely helpful dustbowl Indian pitches + insane amount of overs bowled), second best average and strike rate (among strike bowlers) behind Mitchell Johnson.

    Statsguru doesn't lie. No he doesn't have sheer pace or the intimidation factor that Steyn and Mithcell Johnson do thus why he's been 'unnoticed'.

  • StevieS on June 14, 2014, 9:48 GMT

    Tim Southee's Away average (entire career) 25.72 Mitchell Johnson's (entire career) 31.51. I am not saying that Southee is a better bowler, I am just saying. Jamie Moneghan, Duncan never said that Boult and Southee would be 1 and 2 he said they could be the premier opening bowling unit. I could open the bowling with Malcolm Marshall in his prime but that would mean we would have the worse opening bowling unit in the history of international cricket.

  • pietime on June 14, 2014, 9:37 GMT

    Wow thanks for all the negativity from all you unhappy people. So much anger from people. Imagine having half the skill of these cricketers. I agree totally with all you positive people specially people who are not from NZ or the West Indies.

  • on June 14, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    @Shane Bond, well said. I was pretty certain Southee was injured for the South Africa series, we needed him badly there. Boult seems to have a bit more pace at present and is a very good partner to Southee for us, and things will get interesting once Matt Henry gets an opportunity to play for us in tests. We have a strange depth problem that we've almost never had now, who do we leave out and for what reason? Only person I know for a fact needs dropping right now is Fulton.

  • on June 14, 2014, 4:41 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan Southee was injured during both South Africa and Bangladesh tour. Lol, look at the facts mate then comment. @Sixfourout. Southee for past 2 years has an average of 21.17 with an average of 16 in away tests. He missed South Africa series with injury. I didn't see Mitch playing in subcontinent. Southee picked wickets in Sri Lanka, India, England and now West Indies. I remember my father saying once "If there's one thing an Aussie can't fathom is a Kiwi doing well". Lol, now I understand it pretty well it seems.

  • on June 14, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    Its good to see west Indians and Zealanders getting top of the rankings! coz ranking system is so biassed its accustomed to see Indians and Englishmen kept higher although they do not perform! see where Alistair cook is!

  • SixFourOut on June 13, 2014, 23:34 GMT

    I'll admit I have never rated Southee, it just seemed the guy wasn't getting any better, but now he's hit a good year of form, but then I stand by my judgement that his form will be temporary and that class is permanent.

    He deserves his spot in the ratings for now, because his form shows he has absolutely earned it, but the test of any player is how long you can be more than just a temporary top ten player. Mitchell Johnson has ripped through the very best team in the world and embarrassed very good English batting line up, but not unlike Southee, he's been erratic and had a high average, that is only just coming done now.

    Personally, I think the Kiwi's are behaving like the English tend to and reading way to much into some performances and frankly It's premature and a little short sighted.

    Boult and Southee will never be the "premiere" bowling attack, they lack the pace, but also the accuracy.

  • on June 13, 2014, 22:51 GMT

    Really good work by Southee. In the recent test he had Gayle's number and dismissed him twice - a critical component of our victory. The spinners bowled well in spin-friendly conditions and I salute them... but Southee was imperious. He can blow hot and cold in the shorter format at times, but is still our best seamer overall and certainly our best test bowler. Hats off to you for leading our attack with great conviction and discipline and doing so as someone still quite tender in years. Chur bro!!

  • Down_the_wicket on June 13, 2014, 21:47 GMT

    Southee has certainly picked up his game in the last couple of years, great reward. I think if you give it a another year Boult will be even better than where Southee is now. Blackcaps have two great opening bowlers that are outstanding when given assistance and still very reliable when the pitch is dead. Teamed with Wagner and Craig/Sodhi the attack seems to look the part. Promising signs for NZ fans.

  • on June 13, 2014, 21:29 GMT

    B J Watling had an excellent first test for New Zealand against the West Indies with both bat and gloves (eight dismissals). Surely it is time also that the ICC did rankings for wicketkeepers as well based on runs scored, dismissals affected and byes conceded in the same way that bowlers concede runs?

  • StevieS on June 13, 2014, 21:12 GMT

    All those who say he isn't worthy of his ranking please name bowlers that you think is better. If anyone wants to bring his overall average to the table then remember he started playing tests when he was 19 and as often the case with NZ players they are picked way to early as we don't have the depth.

  • cricketdebator on June 13, 2014, 20:57 GMT

    Chanderpaul scores a lot of runs and deserve his ranking. However, his critics maintain that he need to make his runs impact on the game. First of all, he can start by choosing to bat in a more responsible position. Clearly, a batsman of his ability and experience would most likely serve the team best batting at 3 or 4. For him to be batting at 5, is counter productive and serves no purpose in this particular WI batting line- up. In the just concluded test where he scored a lovely 84 runs, I submit that had he batted at 3, chances are he would have made a big score, laid a platform for lesser batsmen such as Edwards, which by extension might have changed the course and eventual outcome of the game.

  • BRUTALANALYST on June 13, 2014, 20:33 GMT

    Will probably be one by then end of West Indies series

  • on June 13, 2014, 19:58 GMT

    @Duncan think you've been sipping to much WI rum if you think Boult and Southee are going to be 1 and 2 in the world ha ha. No point was look at what Mitch did to SA and Eng , so imagine what he would of done had he had the chance to bowl to Bangladesh , India (in OZ) WI who simply Australia don't get the chance to play. So what was Southee's stars for the recent NZ tour of South Africa?

  • on June 13, 2014, 18:07 GMT

    Southee and Boult will take on the worlds best teams and cause havoc...alongside more power bowling as backup Anderson and McClashin fighting for a fame and the workhorse Wagner....now our two spinners have to fight for places....oir bowling attack is better than the 80's greats I enjoyed....NZ Cricket is charging forward and at the Helm is a real Kiwi...a street fighter feared by sll McCullum backed up with more class in Taylor and Williamson and young Latham....lets get Guptil back boys....I would love to see Ryder Again......anyway with the best depth we have ever had lets stir up the big boys....proud to be a Kiwi supporter.....had every ball on the TV 3am....love it.....sorry for Fulton...thanks for the memory of the two tonnes in two innings at Eden Park.....have those photos from the NZHerald on my wall...Brendon take every game and hold all the keys...well done boys.

  • coolie on June 13, 2014, 17:23 GMT

    Sure would like to see Chanderpaul in Amazon Warriors colors this year...

  • siddhartha87 on June 13, 2014, 16:16 GMT

    @lovetests great stats mate. Southee has performed in all type of pitches in last 2 years. His 41 wkts in 7 tests at an average of 16 outside New Zeland proves that. It's not easy to 7 for in India and 10 for in Sri Lanka for a fast bowler.

  • on June 13, 2014, 16:13 GMT

    To the Davids and other's downplaying Southee's achievements....Southee is class and your lack of respect for his achievements says a lot about your knowledge of the game.

    Based on your logic, maybe M Johnson's ranking should be downgraded because nearly all of his tests the past two years were in seam friendly England, Australia and South Africa. And a big fat zero wickets in the subcontinent.

    Southee and Boult are nipping on the heels of both SA and Aus opening fast pairs and will be around for a lot longer - they could be the premier opening bowling unit within 2 years.

  • on June 13, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    Good work Tim, a much improved seamer who is finally getting his props

  • BlakeHoulihan on June 13, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    I'd love to see Chanderpaul go out on a high and eventually retire as the top ranked batsman... But I guess that doesn't make much sense lol

  • on June 13, 2014, 14:13 GMT

    Can someone check how long Shiv has been in the top 5 / top 10 batting rankings? It seems like forever.

    Also, Southee and Boult to me are among the best swing bowlers in the world, and they deserve their top 10 ranking.

  • garr on June 13, 2014, 13:31 GMT

    Mr Binonbikassh. your argument is flawed. The world plays football . So drawing a parallel between Australia Iraq etc at soccer versus spain or brazil is not the same as Zimbabwe versus Australia . Warne the Waugh's gilchrist etc rarely played the zimmers or Bangers whereas Murali was able to boost his stats significantly along with SA players who saw zim a lot and sub continent teams who play Bangladesh regularly, not four test in 13 yrs.. Zimbabwe versus Australia Is NOT a big match. In the union world cup, the lesser teams such as Italy japan Romania, Russia may all rank in the top 16 but their records against Nz England etc are horrendous every Union world cup has scores of 91/to 6 etc. At least in ODI world cups upsets happen but they are one off's, in tests series upsets are a drawn series. Stats do matter but playing inferior opposition pads them. . If warne played Zim and Bang as often as Murali he'd have far far better stats. 200 teams tried to get to Rio not 16.

  • satspeare on June 13, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    Keep going Shiv!! Its amazing to hear all the calls for dropping the one class act we have on our team. Shiv has to be the first batsman to be so "unpopular" and too "old" while being in the top 10 ranked batsman! I do hope that he is allowed to contnued until HE chooses to quit or he actually fails and be forced out like they did to Lara and some others. I constantly remember the "Big Bird" saying that "I am quiting , before they kick me out" ( loosely quoted).

  • ilovetests on June 13, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    I don't understand what some people are on about. One bloke even thought Gough was a better bowler!?!

    In the last two years Southee has taken 76 wickets in 15 tests at 21.17. He has the 2nd best average and strike rate of all test bowlers in that time (behind Mitchell Johnson). The full list can be be seen here; http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmax1=13+Jun+2014;spanmin1=13+Jun+2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=bowling

    More importantly, he has been by far the world's best bowler overseas. In that time he has bowled New Zealand to victory in Sri Lanka, taken 7-64 in India, got a ten-fer (and on the honours board) at Lords against England, and now played a major role in this latest win in the West Indies. Overseas (outside NZ) in the last two years he has taken 41 wickets in 7 tests at 16.68. Here are the figures here: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;spanmax1=13+Jun+2014;spanmin1=13+Jun+2012;s

  • Binodbikash on June 13, 2014, 12:25 GMT

    This really amazes me that people are saying that records from matches against certain opposition should not count. By its nature cricket is elitist. How more elite you want to make it? The test matches are protected for top ten team, ODIs protected for top (10)16 teams in the world only. Remind you a test match against Zimbabwe is a match against world number 10 team. In any other sport it would be a big match if two opponents from top 10 are facing each other. Look at football for instance Australia ranked 64 is getting to play world No 1 and No 4 in the world cup. And by what you are saying if Spain score 4-5 goals against Australia, that should not count. Give that logic to fans from other sports and wait for their reaction.

  • shane-oh on June 13, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    What odd comments on here. The rankings are an indication of how many wickets or runs a player is getting - simple, and not really something you can argue with. Funny how upset people get when facts show that the player they think the best isn't as good as the fans believe. Southee's record over the last 2 years is exceptionally good and this ranking reflects that.

    Also happy to see Chanderpaul rewarded for the absolute mountain of runs he scores. Still, the criticism of him is generally irrational, so I don't expect it to stop.

  • on June 13, 2014, 11:22 GMT

    I agree as the Rankings should only come in once a bowler or batsmen as faced the top or most of the top teams , as Southee's record against Australia is poor and even worse against South Africa. I don't think bowling to the likes of WI, India in NZ and Bangladesh should really count.

  • tutorial on June 13, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    Go Shiv go!!! Show them what concentration, dedication, focus and discipline is all about.

  • fiddlerv90 on June 13, 2014, 10:23 GMT

    These rankings sucks!!.it only takes 1 superb series for teams& players to top the list. SA dominated test-cricket for 5years and only to be replaced by Aussies who regained their form by trashing Eng in the last ashes. Same goes for saaed Ajmal who consistantly performed for pakistan but only to be replaced by Tim southee who hardly perform against good sides(SA, AUS, sri lanka )... I'm surprised AB de villiers still topping the batting list with these rankings changing day and night!

  • on June 13, 2014, 10:12 GMT

    well deserved. dunno why david is being so negative. Southee has been bowling brilliantly, he's not express speed, but procures movement in the air and off the pitch, constantly bowling that nagging line. Boult was a little off color in the previous match but is great otherwise.

  • CrICkeeet on June 13, 2014, 10:11 GMT

    first of all, I'm not a ranking lover... cngr8z tim bt nt sure hw d ranking working.. 2 undrstand that he's nt d number 5 bwler, u dont hav 2 b a cricket legend!

  • delboy on June 13, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    @David62 deal with NOW, Southee is been judged against his contemporaries and his status must be congratulated rather than judged against the 90's. During the 90's Sir Richard Haddle carried the mantle which Southee has picked up, so lets give him the credit and respect he is due.

  • siddhartha87 on June 13, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    @David62 : Southee has taken 74 wickets in last 15 tests with strike rate below 50 and with a top average. He has bowled well not in seamer friendly pitches but also in Sri Lanka and India. He is probably one of the most under rated bowler. Good to him in top 5.

  • David62 on June 13, 2014, 9:42 GMT

    If Southee is the fifth best bowler in the world, then it just shows how weak the worlds bowling stocks are. If you go back to the late 90s you'd have had Walsh, Ambrose, Waquar, Akram, McGrath, Warne, Murali, Gough, Donald, Pollock, etc etc. all at least one class above Southee.....

  • kiwicricketnut on June 13, 2014, 9:32 GMT

    not sure what david brumby is on about, boult and southee have been amazing in the last couple of years and definately deserve to be in the top 10 and now southee has broken into the top 5, its just a reflection of the bags of wickets he has taken, not to sure about being the 7th ranked allrounder but it just shows he's got his game in order and is excelling, they'll be britts digruntled by anderson not being ranked as high, pakistan fans probably feel ajmal is hard done by but in reality southee is on fire and his ranking is deserved, we have the third best bowling attack in the world now (imo) taking 20 test wickets regulary and its on the back of boult and southee's brilliance.

  • anver777 on June 13, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Hardworking & veteran Chanderpaul is still going strong & is very consistent... once again he's the only WI batsman who is among runs regularly in tests..... he's truly a test batsman, who values his wicket !!!! Keep Scoring Shiv !!!!

  • HenryPorter on June 13, 2014, 9:03 GMT

    It's really a shame that the regular rankings don't rate keepers or fielders - such vital performers in the game. Watling has done really well behind the stumps lately & both Clarke & Mahela have been catching brilliantly for year after year.

  • on June 13, 2014, 8:49 GMT

    Shows just how far out rankings are. These two are nowhere near this high in reality

  • pt_pt on June 13, 2014, 8:27 GMT

    Well done Southee, he is good enough to go further into 1 or 2 if can keep fit for long period of time. Boult is still in the top 10, so well done to him also.

  • on June 13, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Good on Southee. Boult rarely fails twice in a row. Expect him to do well in the next match.

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  • on June 13, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Good on Southee. Boult rarely fails twice in a row. Expect him to do well in the next match.

  • pt_pt on June 13, 2014, 8:27 GMT

    Well done Southee, he is good enough to go further into 1 or 2 if can keep fit for long period of time. Boult is still in the top 10, so well done to him also.

  • on June 13, 2014, 8:49 GMT

    Shows just how far out rankings are. These two are nowhere near this high in reality

  • HenryPorter on June 13, 2014, 9:03 GMT

    It's really a shame that the regular rankings don't rate keepers or fielders - such vital performers in the game. Watling has done really well behind the stumps lately & both Clarke & Mahela have been catching brilliantly for year after year.

  • anver777 on June 13, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Hardworking & veteran Chanderpaul is still going strong & is very consistent... once again he's the only WI batsman who is among runs regularly in tests..... he's truly a test batsman, who values his wicket !!!! Keep Scoring Shiv !!!!

  • kiwicricketnut on June 13, 2014, 9:32 GMT

    not sure what david brumby is on about, boult and southee have been amazing in the last couple of years and definately deserve to be in the top 10 and now southee has broken into the top 5, its just a reflection of the bags of wickets he has taken, not to sure about being the 7th ranked allrounder but it just shows he's got his game in order and is excelling, they'll be britts digruntled by anderson not being ranked as high, pakistan fans probably feel ajmal is hard done by but in reality southee is on fire and his ranking is deserved, we have the third best bowling attack in the world now (imo) taking 20 test wickets regulary and its on the back of boult and southee's brilliance.

  • David62 on June 13, 2014, 9:42 GMT

    If Southee is the fifth best bowler in the world, then it just shows how weak the worlds bowling stocks are. If you go back to the late 90s you'd have had Walsh, Ambrose, Waquar, Akram, McGrath, Warne, Murali, Gough, Donald, Pollock, etc etc. all at least one class above Southee.....

  • siddhartha87 on June 13, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    @David62 : Southee has taken 74 wickets in last 15 tests with strike rate below 50 and with a top average. He has bowled well not in seamer friendly pitches but also in Sri Lanka and India. He is probably one of the most under rated bowler. Good to him in top 5.

  • delboy on June 13, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    @David62 deal with NOW, Southee is been judged against his contemporaries and his status must be congratulated rather than judged against the 90's. During the 90's Sir Richard Haddle carried the mantle which Southee has picked up, so lets give him the credit and respect he is due.

  • CrICkeeet on June 13, 2014, 10:11 GMT

    first of all, I'm not a ranking lover... cngr8z tim bt nt sure hw d ranking working.. 2 undrstand that he's nt d number 5 bwler, u dont hav 2 b a cricket legend!