Zimbabwe in West Indies 2012-13 March 23, 2013

WI taught Zimbabwe a lesson - Taylor

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Brendan Taylor, the Zimbabwe captain, has admitted his team were "taught a proper lesson" during their 2-0 Test series defeat against West Indies. Both matches ended inside three days as the Zimbabwe batsmen, in particular, struggled to cope against a vastly more experienced West Indies side.

Zimbabwe lost seven out of seven international fixtures on the tour - three ODIs, two T20s and two Tests - their first since a similarly disappointing trip to New Zealand last year. The defeat in Roseau was Alan Butcher's last match as coach of Zimbabwe, with his contract up at the end of the month, and his replacement will have much work to do ahead of the visit of Bangladesh in April.

"It's been massively disappointing. We have been taught a proper lesson," Taylor was quoted as saying by Reuters. "It hurts to be in this position but the West Indies were a far better side than us.

"The seamers can hold their heads high and hopefully carry some momentum into the Bangladesh series but a lot of us need to go home and have a good think and then try to execute better in quiet a few areas. We can only learn from this, we are a side that will definitely try to rectify a few things."

The tour was a difficult one for Taylor personally, as he made just 123 runs from nine innings, with a top score of 39. Before Zimbabwe's squad left for the Caribbean, Taylor had been critical of the decision to leave behind batting coach Grant Flower, bowling coach Heath Streak and fitness trainer Lorraine Chivandire and there is plenty for the support staff to work on ahead of the Tests against Bangladesh, the first of which begins on April 17.

Zimbabwe only returned to the Test arena in 2011, after a six-year exile, beating Bangladesh in a one-off Test in Harare. The successor to Butcher, who guided Zimbabwe for the last three years, is expected to be one of Flower, assistant coach Stephen Mangongo or Andy Waller, a former international, and should be in place by the start of next month for Bangladesh's return.

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  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | March 26, 2013, 13:32 GMT

    I see Rhamdin, topped the batting for WI again .... Poor guy, he is going to get dropped again .....

    WICB selector logic = epic fail

  • POSTED BY on | March 26, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    zim should quit playing cricket.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | March 25, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    @ laduma what about PAK? You could merge them with AFG and play international cricket in AFG since there is none in PAK. I like the tier approach with relegation as well as promotion. It will encourage the likes of CAN, China, SCOTLAND, IRE and even the US to push for entry into the lower tier. I am fearful though that It could cause Trinidad to breakaway from the WI as they have the capacity to beat all what would become lower tier teams.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | March 25, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    These boys need the same divine intervention which Tiabu had.

  • POSTED BY on | March 25, 2013, 11:54 GMT

    Its funny when the 2 weaker teams Zim and Ban are only playing 3 ODIs instead of 5 and 2 test test matches instead of 3. I can understand against teams like England or Pakistan but these 2 are about the same level so I don't understand who schedules these things.

  • POSTED BY Nduru on | March 25, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    Not sure why my original comment was not published. All I want to say is that a dedicated and talented group of players is being badly, horribly, seriously let down by absolutely rubbish administration. We know that we don't play enough tests, so why don't we play A games with top teams like we did in 2010? That was the best preparation and the guys did very well in the 2010 comeback in all three games. Then the pathetic decision to leave the only two competent coaches at home. What did we expect?

  • POSTED BY on | March 25, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    I am glad that Taylor has been realistic and honest in his comments...pity that ZC could not be the same way regarding the way they attempt to run cricket in Zim.

  • POSTED BY ZCFOutkast on | March 25, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Horrible tour for Zimbabwe, and the poor captain mirrored it perfectly!

    In hindsight introducing Williams so soon after his return was rather premature. Craig Ervine is not bright enough for international cricket. In Waller, Test

    cricket continues to be subjected to a specialist night-watchman! Just as Cremer's return for the NZ tour was disastrous and premature, so it proved to be in

    the WI tour.

    Chatara was a revelation but he can wait - we have better. Apart from the fact that he got some fortunate wickets which help his figures, Jarvis was largely

    non-threatening. It was unfortunate that our most in form FC batsman plus statistically our best spinner Maruma missed out, but a Test debut against

    Bangladesh beckons: Mawoyo, Matsikenyeri, Sibanda, HMasakadza, Taylor(wk), Maruma, Chigumbura, SMasakadza, Utseya, Jarvis, Mpofu

    Thankfully Butcher is leaving, so briefly Mangongo can lead his protégés before another useless coach is employed to killl their progress like all before

  • POSTED BY Sachit1979 on | March 25, 2013, 5:51 GMT

    Zimbabwe has to follow a long way to stand tall in world Cricket again. What could have been expected out of a team that had no budget to carry a coach with them? Building a team for future is second step for them. First is to construct a platform to assess players and coach them to build a team. Heath and Grant are doing their duties but team needs to learn a lot to be competitive. They are getting whitewashed even by second league teams. I can't imagine what would happen if they play against any of the first league teams.

  • POSTED BY laduma on | March 25, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    Well I think its time for tiers, the 1st Class tier should comprise of SA, Eng, Ind, Aus then the 2nd Tier SL, NZ, Ban WI & Zim, with one promotion slot. Money talks as a Ind vs NZ series will always attract low crowds and sponsors, so instead of killing cricket make it more competitive and nurture the smaller nations

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | March 26, 2013, 13:32 GMT

    I see Rhamdin, topped the batting for WI again .... Poor guy, he is going to get dropped again .....

    WICB selector logic = epic fail

  • POSTED BY on | March 26, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    zim should quit playing cricket.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | March 25, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    @ laduma what about PAK? You could merge them with AFG and play international cricket in AFG since there is none in PAK. I like the tier approach with relegation as well as promotion. It will encourage the likes of CAN, China, SCOTLAND, IRE and even the US to push for entry into the lower tier. I am fearful though that It could cause Trinidad to breakaway from the WI as they have the capacity to beat all what would become lower tier teams.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | March 25, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    These boys need the same divine intervention which Tiabu had.

  • POSTED BY on | March 25, 2013, 11:54 GMT

    Its funny when the 2 weaker teams Zim and Ban are only playing 3 ODIs instead of 5 and 2 test test matches instead of 3. I can understand against teams like England or Pakistan but these 2 are about the same level so I don't understand who schedules these things.

  • POSTED BY Nduru on | March 25, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    Not sure why my original comment was not published. All I want to say is that a dedicated and talented group of players is being badly, horribly, seriously let down by absolutely rubbish administration. We know that we don't play enough tests, so why don't we play A games with top teams like we did in 2010? That was the best preparation and the guys did very well in the 2010 comeback in all three games. Then the pathetic decision to leave the only two competent coaches at home. What did we expect?

  • POSTED BY on | March 25, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    I am glad that Taylor has been realistic and honest in his comments...pity that ZC could not be the same way regarding the way they attempt to run cricket in Zim.

  • POSTED BY ZCFOutkast on | March 25, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Horrible tour for Zimbabwe, and the poor captain mirrored it perfectly!

    In hindsight introducing Williams so soon after his return was rather premature. Craig Ervine is not bright enough for international cricket. In Waller, Test

    cricket continues to be subjected to a specialist night-watchman! Just as Cremer's return for the NZ tour was disastrous and premature, so it proved to be in

    the WI tour.

    Chatara was a revelation but he can wait - we have better. Apart from the fact that he got some fortunate wickets which help his figures, Jarvis was largely

    non-threatening. It was unfortunate that our most in form FC batsman plus statistically our best spinner Maruma missed out, but a Test debut against

    Bangladesh beckons: Mawoyo, Matsikenyeri, Sibanda, HMasakadza, Taylor(wk), Maruma, Chigumbura, SMasakadza, Utseya, Jarvis, Mpofu

    Thankfully Butcher is leaving, so briefly Mangongo can lead his protégés before another useless coach is employed to killl their progress like all before

  • POSTED BY Sachit1979 on | March 25, 2013, 5:51 GMT

    Zimbabwe has to follow a long way to stand tall in world Cricket again. What could have been expected out of a team that had no budget to carry a coach with them? Building a team for future is second step for them. First is to construct a platform to assess players and coach them to build a team. Heath and Grant are doing their duties but team needs to learn a lot to be competitive. They are getting whitewashed even by second league teams. I can't imagine what would happen if they play against any of the first league teams.

  • POSTED BY laduma on | March 25, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    Well I think its time for tiers, the 1st Class tier should comprise of SA, Eng, Ind, Aus then the 2nd Tier SL, NZ, Ban WI & Zim, with one promotion slot. Money talks as a Ind vs NZ series will always attract low crowds and sponsors, so instead of killing cricket make it more competitive and nurture the smaller nations

  • POSTED BY NAZMO-CRICKFANN on | March 25, 2013, 3:02 GMT

    We look forward to seeing a more competitive Zimbabwe team in the soon distance. wishing Zim all the best Well done west indies

  • POSTED BY Albert_cambell on | March 25, 2013, 1:48 GMT

    @Julian Vella . Lets be honest both Zim and BD should for their own Ashes series which includes 5 test matches. In this way both teams get to play more test matches and they will improve.

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | March 25, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    I feel sorry for Zimbabwean cricket. The great team of Andy Flower, Dave Houghton, Eddo Brandes, the Strang brothers, Heath Streak, etc., have become another minnow team. Can their more illustrious neighbours SA do anything about it ? This is where the ICC has totally FAILED as an organization. Shame on them and the other elite nations who have betrayed Zimbabwe, Ireland and other lesser teams.

  • POSTED BY SyedAreYouDumb on | March 24, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    There must be a reason why in the Bangladesh series both these cricket starved countries are playing only 2 tests...

  • POSTED BY grahaam on | March 24, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    The sad thing is the poor guy seems to be the one to take responsibility for the mis management of others. Notice that ZC have failed to comment on the situation of stay at home coaches. Maybe they should act immediately by admitting the mistake and taking the pressure of this young man!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | March 24, 2013, 0:18 GMT

    And now with the up coming series against Bangladesh coming up i see the fixtures only in clude 3 ODI's 2 t20 and 2 tests this tour should be minimum 3 t20's 7 ODI's and 3 if not 4 tests !!! Bangladesh also complain about not enough matches so you would think once these 2 "cricket starved" nations came together they'ed try and play as much as possible !!! But hey what wouls i know

  • POSTED BY on | March 24, 2013, 0:00 GMT

    Of course Zim were handed alesson this was always goin to happen because they play so little "High class" cricket. Zim has enough players with potential to at least compete with the best but such little cricket being played and exposure to different conditions is the reason they have been beaten so badly. How to fix it ? simply play more !!! I know the "Big" countries try to avoid playing Zim but they're not helping themselves they should have took advantage of this tour to the West Indies and played at least 2 proper 1st class matches against proper 1st class teams like Jamaica etc and play 5 or 7 ODI's and even an extra test match history shows the longer a series goes the better the oppistion get

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  • POSTED BY on | March 24, 2013, 0:00 GMT

    Of course Zim were handed alesson this was always goin to happen because they play so little "High class" cricket. Zim has enough players with potential to at least compete with the best but such little cricket being played and exposure to different conditions is the reason they have been beaten so badly. How to fix it ? simply play more !!! I know the "Big" countries try to avoid playing Zim but they're not helping themselves they should have took advantage of this tour to the West Indies and played at least 2 proper 1st class matches against proper 1st class teams like Jamaica etc and play 5 or 7 ODI's and even an extra test match history shows the longer a series goes the better the oppistion get

  • POSTED BY on | March 24, 2013, 0:18 GMT

    And now with the up coming series against Bangladesh coming up i see the fixtures only in clude 3 ODI's 2 t20 and 2 tests this tour should be minimum 3 t20's 7 ODI's and 3 if not 4 tests !!! Bangladesh also complain about not enough matches so you would think once these 2 "cricket starved" nations came together they'ed try and play as much as possible !!! But hey what wouls i know

  • POSTED BY grahaam on | March 24, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    The sad thing is the poor guy seems to be the one to take responsibility for the mis management of others. Notice that ZC have failed to comment on the situation of stay at home coaches. Maybe they should act immediately by admitting the mistake and taking the pressure of this young man!!!!

  • POSTED BY SyedAreYouDumb on | March 24, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    There must be a reason why in the Bangladesh series both these cricket starved countries are playing only 2 tests...

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | March 25, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    I feel sorry for Zimbabwean cricket. The great team of Andy Flower, Dave Houghton, Eddo Brandes, the Strang brothers, Heath Streak, etc., have become another minnow team. Can their more illustrious neighbours SA do anything about it ? This is where the ICC has totally FAILED as an organization. Shame on them and the other elite nations who have betrayed Zimbabwe, Ireland and other lesser teams.

  • POSTED BY Albert_cambell on | March 25, 2013, 1:48 GMT

    @Julian Vella . Lets be honest both Zim and BD should for their own Ashes series which includes 5 test matches. In this way both teams get to play more test matches and they will improve.

  • POSTED BY NAZMO-CRICKFANN on | March 25, 2013, 3:02 GMT

    We look forward to seeing a more competitive Zimbabwe team in the soon distance. wishing Zim all the best Well done west indies

  • POSTED BY laduma on | March 25, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    Well I think its time for tiers, the 1st Class tier should comprise of SA, Eng, Ind, Aus then the 2nd Tier SL, NZ, Ban WI & Zim, with one promotion slot. Money talks as a Ind vs NZ series will always attract low crowds and sponsors, so instead of killing cricket make it more competitive and nurture the smaller nations

  • POSTED BY Sachit1979 on | March 25, 2013, 5:51 GMT

    Zimbabwe has to follow a long way to stand tall in world Cricket again. What could have been expected out of a team that had no budget to carry a coach with them? Building a team for future is second step for them. First is to construct a platform to assess players and coach them to build a team. Heath and Grant are doing their duties but team needs to learn a lot to be competitive. They are getting whitewashed even by second league teams. I can't imagine what would happen if they play against any of the first league teams.

  • POSTED BY ZCFOutkast on | March 25, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Horrible tour for Zimbabwe, and the poor captain mirrored it perfectly!

    In hindsight introducing Williams so soon after his return was rather premature. Craig Ervine is not bright enough for international cricket. In Waller, Test

    cricket continues to be subjected to a specialist night-watchman! Just as Cremer's return for the NZ tour was disastrous and premature, so it proved to be in

    the WI tour.

    Chatara was a revelation but he can wait - we have better. Apart from the fact that he got some fortunate wickets which help his figures, Jarvis was largely

    non-threatening. It was unfortunate that our most in form FC batsman plus statistically our best spinner Maruma missed out, but a Test debut against

    Bangladesh beckons: Mawoyo, Matsikenyeri, Sibanda, HMasakadza, Taylor(wk), Maruma, Chigumbura, SMasakadza, Utseya, Jarvis, Mpofu

    Thankfully Butcher is leaving, so briefly Mangongo can lead his protégés before another useless coach is employed to killl their progress like all before