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Lehmann rounds on 'cheating' Broad

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August 21, 2013

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Stuart Broad edged to slip but was given not out, England v Australia, 1st Investec Test, Trent Bridge, 3rd day, July 12, 2013
Darren Lehmann on Stuart Broad: "I just hope the Australian public give it to him right from the word go for the whole summer and I hope he cries and he goes home" © PA Photos
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Australia coach Darren Lehmann has, in an extraordinary outburst against England allrounder Stuart Broad, underlined his anger over Broad's decision to not walk at a crucial juncture of the first Test by calling for Australian crowds to get at Broad in the return Ashes series later this year.

"Certainly our players haven't forgotten, they're calling him everything under the sun as they go past," Lehmann said in an interview to the TripleM station. "I hope the Australian public are the same because that was just blatant cheating. I don't advocate walking but when you hit it to first slip it's pretty hard."

Lehmann's comments come a day ahead of the final Test at the Oval, with Australia striving to avoid an unprecedented fourth Test defeat in a Ashes series. It might have turned out to be a closer contest had Broad walked after edging into the keeper's leg, with the ball then carrying to slip, in a tightly fought first Test. Instead, he stood his ground and was involved in a match-changing 138-run stand with Ian Bell for the seventh wicket.

"From my point of view I just hope the Australian public give it to him right from the word go for the whole summer and I hope he cries and he goes home," Lehmann said. "I just hope everyone gets stuck into him because the way he's carried on and the way he's commented in public about it is ridiculous.

"He knew he hit it to slip. The biggest problem there is the poor umpire cops all the crap that he gets in paper and Stuart Broad makes him look like a fool. From my point of view it's poor, so I hope the public actually get stuck into him."

Broad had re-opened debate about the incident by speaking unrepentantly and brazenly about it earlier in the week. "Yes, I knew I'd hit it," he said. "But if you go through the series and look at the Australian players who have nicked it and not walked you could name several -- Warner, Rogers, Khawaja, Smith, Clarke, Agar. I mean it's quite a lot of players for it to be a big issue. Why are people picking on me? Well, it's the way our media works I suppose.

"It's a bit silly when people say I edged to slip because it was actually an edge to the keeper that went off his gloves to slip. I went down the other end and Ian Bell said, "What's happened there? I didn't hear anything". And Agar asked me if I'd nicked it because he wasn't sure. It wasn't as clear-cut as everybody thought."

By deciding to stand his ground, Broad said he had demonstrated the hard-edged attitude that Australia had used to great effect against England in previous years. "Australian cricket has a win-at-all-costs mentality whereas in England it can be 'let's shake hands and have a beer'," he said. "Maybe that's why they won non-stop for 20 years against us but there's one thing for sure about this England team and that is we're tough.

"We've come through tricky times and have stood up to be counted. We do have a win-at-all-costs mentality. We've been accused of all sorts of things this summer, like the tripe about tape on our bats, but that's not what the series will be remembered for. It's winning that will be remembered."

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Posted by alarky on (August 24, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

Most of the responses that I am seeing here is calling Lehman a villain because he expressed his feelings in the most candid manner, over a despicable incident which took place, and put his team at a disadvantage! Imagine that my submission which seems to be the only one to say that Lehman is right to condemn dishonesty has not even been published! Imagine that the ONLY ONE that suggests that dishonesty should be condemned in the public, not even published! I wonder what is happening to our wotld? It appears that I am the only person on earth who thinks that dishonesty should be condemned in the most emotive manner! What a world!

Posted by JG2704 on (August 24, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

@ Arindom Borahon (August 22, 2013, 22:05 GMT) How do you work out that ESPN are biased? They reported both issues as they would have reported the 6x6 against him , as they would have reported the hattrick he took against the very same side a few years later.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 24, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

@ Dashgar on (August 22, 2013, 9:53 GMT) I think Broad is as mentally tough as anyone and don't think he'll be adversely affected at all by booing - so long as it's not the English fans booing. In fact I'd say he'd see it as a kind of compliment

Posted by Shaggy076 on (August 23, 2013, 22:22 GMT)

Chupran; I coudnt agree with you mire about fans memiiries are short lived. Yes Symonds nicked it but had Ponting not been given out incorrectly LBW after smashing the ball then Symonds wouldn't have been in. Indian fans are very quick to forget this. All the wickets at the end of the game were actual wickets, 2 decisions went against India for the test (Dravid was not out in second innings) and one against Australia not a massive discrepancy so its time for Indian fans to stop there bleating.

Posted by Sorcerer on (August 23, 2013, 12:16 GMT)

Lehmann is just trying to divert the focus and attention of Aussie public from the massive defeat scoreline in Ashes. He does not want himself to be held accountable for the mess, for his share.

Posted by Chupran on (August 23, 2013, 7:05 GMT)

Normally, I would join the chorus to give the Poms, especially Broad a very hard time indeed. However, as expressed by some other probably Indian supporters, memories are selective and short-lived. Yes, I am talking about the New Year test Aus vs India, SCG 2008 (after which Indian captain Kumble dryly remarked that only one team was playing cricket out there) which proves umpiring decisions and justice/injustice level out in the long time. Australia precarious at 190 odd for 6 when Symonds nicked behind which was heard by everyone in the ground except Umpire Bucknor (Symonds admitted to the nick later) and he went on to make a match winning hundred. In another poetic twist, the current captain Clarke refused to walk after being caught at slip in the second innings Lehman please note the catch was taken at slip. If Broad had walked, Australia would probably have not lost the Ashes. If Symonds had walked back then, India probably would not have lost 2-1 either- so take it on the chin

Posted by maddy20 on (August 23, 2013, 3:45 GMT)

Funny that Australians are accusing someone of cheating. Remember Sydney Mr.Lehmann? Remember how Symonds nicked when on 0, given not out and went on to score a match-winning hundred, that cost us the series? The usually unruly crowd picking on a kid(Kohli) touring there for the first time? Australian crowds will pick on the Englishmen anyway. They just have to prepare for it and thrash them in their own backyard. I am no fan of the English team but I support anyone playing against the Aus!

Posted by Mail4kar on (August 23, 2013, 0:53 GMT)

Mr.Lehmann, if you say broad "blatantly cheated", Then how will you call your team in SYDNEY TEST January 2008 between India and Australia??? This kind of thing is new for Australia as opposition and it's usual for those play against Australia.

Posted by dunger.bob on (August 23, 2013, 0:40 GMT)

I'm a bit surprised and disappointed in Boof over this. .. Any man with 10K + First Class runs should know better than that. The truth is, sometimes it goes for you, sometimes its against you.

I think Lehmann will live to regret this, but I'm not going to hang him just yet. .. He's a passionate lover of Aus cricket and a brand new coach. .. Hopefully he'll learn from this and keep things a bit closer to his chest in the future.

Posted by Regfan on (August 22, 2013, 23:16 GMT)

As an Australian I was relieved when Lehman became our new coach and thought it would lead towards a positive change for the team and for the game but these comments from him have greatly hindered my beliefs. There's no way he can rightfully believe that Broad is a cheat and that he deserves harassment but back the Australian team when Clarke, Haddin and I'm sure others have done the same very thing this series, not to mention the fact that we've done it multiple times in "crucial situations" in the past. His reasoning from differentiating this particular case to any other one and involves him attempting to argue semantics and incorrectly too since the ball didn't go from bat to first slip but rather through the keeper.

Posted by sachin1111989 on (August 22, 2013, 22:46 GMT)

Remember the Sydney test in 2008 aussies? Things have come round a full circle. And now what do you do? Cry and foulmouth the opposition. Stand up and win the final test to save your faces. The way Lehman speaks shows that they are totally down and dusted.

All in all, its very unfortunate and irresponsible of Lehman to make such comments in the media.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 21:45 GMT)

The comments are correct the umpires have been atrocious. Standing your ground after possibly nicking the ball is one thing. Doing it when you hit the ball off the middle of the bat is something completely different. Especially when he did it knowing Australia had no reviews left and walked later in the series when Australia did have reviews left. So he has brought it on himself Mr Broad has.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 13:27 GMT)

I have been following cricket for 21 years now and have seen various batsmen being given not out when they were out and various batsmen given out when the fielders have not caught it. Andrew symonds was out four times in one sydney test and he was given not out each time and to make matters worse dravid was given out of his bowling when he had not nicked, it was in the same test. Various cricketers have announced that walking is not a good habit. I am not a great english supporter but why do you blame broad for whatever he did when he just went with the crowd. If players were to be castigated for not making their own decisions on their own dismissal then let us take umpires out of the equation. Either follow the umpires or follow the players, dont mix up things.

Posted by JayeshGS on (August 22, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

I can see clearly 'killing instinct' is missing around here.. in early 2000, if any Batsman given NOT OUT by umpire, australian bowler use to take it as a challenge and bowl next ball to clear wickets. Now, words are been thrown harder then cricket bowl.

Posted by AltafPatel on (August 22, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

Lehman should look back what Australians did in the past...!

Posted by blue_kings on (August 22, 2013, 12:33 GMT)

I don't understand what spirits spectators share for this game... On one end, everyone believes that the glory of Australia with McGrath, Warne, Waughs and Gilli is gone and so the attitude of just winning by putting the spirit of the game on line is also gone...

They have been playing a fare game for last couple of years now and because of the period of transformation, Clarke have failed to maintain a rhythm whenever he wins (sometimes - once in a blue moon nowadays)...

I am not supporting the breed of Australians like Lehman but still I won't blame Australia for the loss they have suffered in this Ashes... It was weather, it was poor umpiring, it was DRS flaws and it was everything which was going against Australia...

But overall, it is cricket which was compromised by both the teams, one by management and on other side by a player. I hope these two nation's mere rivalries will not harm the game anymore.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

The same happened with india. Ricky did the same with Ganguly. I hope everyone recall the moment when Ponting argued that he took a clean catch even though the replays suggested that it wasn't.

Posted by CricketChat on (August 22, 2013, 12:04 GMT)

Lehmann should refrain from making explosive comments and egging fans back home to raise against a specific opposition player even if they have some merit. Clearly, cricket diplomacy is not his strong suit. Seems like an outburst borne out of frustration for failure to live up to all the hype surrounding his unexpected elevation to team head coach.surrounding his sudden elevation to team head coach.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (August 22, 2013, 11:44 GMT)

If the aussies are going to have a go at Broady, they better have a go at the entire barmy army too. haha, i wouldnt do it, you'll get hurt.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (August 22, 2013, 11:33 GMT)

I think its time for people to calm down. Firstly, look at the context it was a throw away line said on a light hearted radio station in Australia. I doubt that Broad would even believe Lehmann was series. It stirs up publicity for the Ashes at home, Broad is barely going to think twice about the booing. Lehmann has not made any official statements in interviews on his context as Australian coach, and I dont for one minute believe Lehmann thought the media would take a light hearted comment to this level. Or he believes that Broad is a cheat. As for everyone having a go at Australias sportsmanship I suggest you take a look in your own backyard first. Australians have played it hard and sometimes overstepped the mark no question but I can name incidences all over the world. As for the walking debate, well no one does it so dont castigate Australia for it. As for Gilchrist the examples given is from his second test, became a walker mid career and walked even when the game was on the line

Posted by deryck on (August 22, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

I am quite disappointed in these comment from the Australian coach Darren Lehman the umpires are getting paid to do a job and in this present day game where there is DRS why should he walk. He is just upset that they are losing more than they are winning and they are getting taste of their own medicine he comments just makes me hate australian cricket more

Posted by AntonKL on (August 22, 2013, 10:08 GMT)

Interesting topic and very clear laws on the subject. The umpire makes the decision and that decision is final unless overruled by DRS. If no reviews are left then the not out decision is final even if he hit it straight to cover. There is no definition of blatant edges in the laws...if anyone knows it please enlighten me. Lehman should spend more time getting Clarke and his bowlers and keeper to use DRS better instead of calling a player who has done nothing wrong a cheat. What a number of people are forgetting is that the ball went to first slip off the keepers pads. To say he did not walk after hitting it to first slip is a big exaggeration and false.

Posted by hyclass on (August 22, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Disgraceful behaviour from Lehmann. I met the man at a training camp in Melbourne, at Bat and Ball, in the early 90's when he was playing for Victoria. It appears that his stature as a wonderful player and 'good bloke' exceeds his abilities as a statesman. I imagined him to be possessed of far higher quality than he has shown on this occasion. He needs to be demonstrating stoicism to his team. How will they learn to remain unruffled and professional in the face of challenges, if their coach goes to pieces and behaves like a child throwing a tantrum when it doesn't fall his way. The batsmen are paid to bat, the bowlers to bowl and the umpires to umpire. Many batsmen have faced career defining incorrect decisions that went against them. Cricket has long been known as the great leveller. I encourage batsmen to embrace any good fortune that they may have. It cuts both ways. They are not, nor will they ever be, required to be both batsman and umpire simultaneously. Show some dignity Darren

Posted by Dashgar on (August 22, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

People are missing the point. This isn't about playing in the spirit of the game at all. In fact you might call it the opposite. Lehmann is playing blatant mind games with the England side by targeting one of their stars who he obviously thinks can be mentally rattled. He's telling the Australian public to boo Broad. But he's not saying that because Broad deserves it, he's telling them to because Broad will play worse because of it. Don't boo Pietersen, Cook or Swann, they'll love it. Boo Broad, Root and Finn cos they'll fold. Remember he said it to the Australian public, not the cricket world. Sure the cricket world heard, they were supposed to, but the message was for the Australian people.

Posted by Hatter_Mad on (August 22, 2013, 9:32 GMT)

@ milepost - Broad edged the ball and the wicket keeping got the deflection in to the first slip - which is hugely different from what you are reporting and choosing to remember.

Posted by Keshavaram on (August 22, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

Sports/Games is pure gentleman where they are bond by laws. The Spirit of the Game/Sports has to be mainted 24*7 hrs.In yester years look back in 70s to 90s the technoloy has was @ infant state. Even before the ump raises his finger the batsman used to walk back. Let take to the golden jubillee test btn. Ind vs Eng played in Mumbai in 80 legendary batsman GR Vishwinath was the capt Eng WKB Bob Taylor was CBW by yet an another legendary WK SMH Kirmani. VIshwinath asked Kirmani wheter Taylor was out or not. Kirmani said he is not out. Vishwanth called Taylor back & Eng won the match. Now a days the Spirit of the Game has lost. Bring it in the Right Spirit.

Posted by Cyril_Knight on (August 22, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

What are the Aussies gonna do, wave their man-bags at him? Broad's a big boy, he can handle anything they throw at him.

Posted by trumpoz on (August 22, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

The whole thing as about Broad's attitude. Talking on radio and not taking the you win some you lose some is just asking for someone to take a shot at you.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 22, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

@milepost on (August 22, 2013, 7:31 GMT) Where do you draw the line of what is blatant? You either walk or you don't. Broad knew he hit it for sure , but the main point is that Broad is getting all the flack and the umpire (whose woeful decision it was) is getting nothing. If you know you've hit it and you don't walk then how is it different from Broad? Most would have walked in Broad's shoes , not because of an honesty issue but because it was so obvious that it would be a natural reaction (thinking there's no way this can't be given) not to walk. Your man Warner even wasted a review on one he clearly gloved

Posted by JG2704 on (August 22, 2013, 8:03 GMT)

I half agree with on (August 22, 2013, 4:55 GMT) . I like to see batsmen walk but at the same time I don't hold it against them if they don't walk. But , just because you walk doesn't/shouldn't mean you're going to get less decisions going against you.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 7:34 GMT)

dear leahman never forget the past and keep it in mind all days are not sundays..and be rembered what ausises has done under rickiees capitancy against india.claimg droped catches and many other indecent things.now it is pay back time you guys are getting it back..as i said before always keep it in mind "ALL DAYS ARE NOT SUNDAY ".

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 7:34 GMT)

I think many here are missing the real point. Whether Broad should have walked or not is no longer important. It is what he said that was deliberately designed to rile Aussies - and Lehmann took the bait! It is the way Broad wants to play it and he is happiest and at his best in a highly competitive, even hostile, atmosphere. It will be interesting to see how Aussie crowds react to him. Will they even turn up in big numbers? They are not famous for being good losers. But you can be sure that the Barmy Army will be there in force.

Posted by milepost on (August 22, 2013, 7:31 GMT)

@Jared Hansen, he didn't 'not walk'. He caned it to slip, like chipping it back to the bowler. There is clearly a difference. What would you say if he chipped it to the bowler and stood his ground? I think this 'not walking' talk is nonsense as it is about marginal decisions. Like when Bell was caught by Smith, he stood there despite being caught? Have you noticed Broad walks in a flash now?

Posted by Samdanh on (August 22, 2013, 7:28 GMT)

With or without Lehman's reactions, Stuart Broad would have had to cop some stuff when Eng travelled down under, provided he is fit and travelling. It happened to Warner in England after the off field incident. No surprise if it happens to Stuart Broad, following the incident on field in the first Test-which became crucial to the result of the first Test; and the series as well

Posted by Samdanh on (August 22, 2013, 7:22 GMT)

@S.Jagernath: "Stuart Broad needs to mail Darren Lehmann a rule book & a clip of the incident & anyway when Broad was supposedly out,Englands lead was higher than Australia's eventual 4th innings total.Lehmann asking the Australian crowd to behave like hooligans is really poor on his part." Stuart Broad was on 37-28 less than the score he eventually got, when umpire Aleem Dar came up with the "howler" So Eng were not past the Aus 2nd innings total at this stage. In fact Aus may have won with few wickets to spare had Aleem Dar given the right decision, leave alone Broad not having walked. I wonder if your reaction would have been different if India (or whichever country you belong to) was at the receiving end, instead of Australia

Posted by Arrow011 on (August 22, 2013, 6:38 GMT)

Lehmann has given spark to them team with his interview, look at Watto's score :)

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 6:36 GMT)

Really disappointed in Lehmann as an Australian supporter. Not as a coach, but for saying this. Being familiar with Triple-M and their editorial slant I'm sure their questions were framed in a low-road sort of way to bring about a response like this but that doesn't excuse giving such tabloid fodder. Especially at this time, with the incident four matches past it looks like sour grapes at a time when we need management to look forward and be positive.

Broad not being given out was disgraceful, but it's a reflection on the umpire. The laws of the game say you are out when dismissed by the umpire. Clearly he did not cheat. That is a simple fact. I have not understood the attention this has received since walking is so uncommon. Perhaps it is because Stuart Broad is not a likeable cricketer, but that's a poor reason for double standards.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 6:26 GMT)

Lehmann still winging over Broad's incident - What's new? How many times have we seen Aussies got over the line thanks to some great umpiring specially at their home grounds. Last one I can recall is India Vs Australia Sydney Test where Symonds and Clarke both stood their ground even though everyone knew they were gone for all money except Steve Bucknor! Also don't also blame DRS for the 3-0 loss. So Stop whining and start competing.......

Posted by Rahulbose on (August 22, 2013, 6:17 GMT)

Rather poor attempt to distract fans from the results.

Posted by Srivatsava8421 on (August 22, 2013, 5:54 GMT)

Hi Lehman, every cricket fan knows that Stuart Broad is out and there is clear edge to his bat. But it is the duty of the Umpire to decide whether the batsman is out or not out. I think it is the Australia who failed to use the DRS properly in that match. DRS might have helped Australia if they have used properly for the previous decisions. So its all in the game. You should remember that your team had benefited so many times in previous matches long time back at some point of your career. As everyone knows that Australian team at its worst phase of its cricketing career, so try to comeback strong.

Posted by Vijay_Rocks7 on (August 22, 2013, 5:50 GMT)

Last 20years or so you were the same Mr.Lehman...it's just tit for tat now!!

Posted by FNS18 on (August 22, 2013, 5:46 GMT)

Has Lehman forgotten the Infamous Sydney Test 2003 (AUS vs IND)? Did Andrew Symonds, Michael Clarke walked away? What about "wicket" of Dravid by Gilly (so called sportsman) in the second innings? I think Australia has forgotten the famous comment Kumble made after the match - "Only one side was playing in the spirit of the game".

Posted by Hodra99 on (August 22, 2013, 4:55 GMT)

All those complaining...please relax. Listen to the interview and take it in it's context...Lehmann was his usual jovial self talking to two mates of his on a radio station from the city he grew up and played the majority of his cricket in. Take a deep breath people and enjoy the cricket!

Posted by me.jithen on (August 22, 2013, 4:51 GMT)

Here comes Lehmann... Every one knows about Aussies and their true cunningness... Openly calling public to get behind broad so that he can cry.. Mr. Lehmann, improve your teams performance, tactics.. make england cry with series win against them in australia.. not by teasing... I think its already late as he is in later stages.. no time to learn too...

Posted by Iceman29 on (August 22, 2013, 4:50 GMT)

Its you who is crying now Mr.Lehmann..what a sore loser you are...getting a taste of your own medicine and it hurts doesn't it.....

Posted by Thegimp on (August 22, 2013, 4:25 GMT)

Playing for almost 30 years myself and looking at Broad's reaction, turning and watching like he did, he knows exactly what happened so his self serving denial taints the story some what. Saying that it's up to the player to walk or not. Myself I always thought building credibility with the umpires was the key either when batting or bowling. Walking when it is blatant often saves you when it's a 50/50 call.

What I do find amazing in sport is when a coach or player says what he is really thinking the media get stuck in however when the media get straight bat answers like, "We are only thinking about the next Test" or "We are taking it one day at a time and trusting our preparation and structures" they get all upset.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 3:57 GMT)

Love your work Leahmann. I will be there at Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne screaming with the rest of the crowed. Even if he didn't mention it we all know that us Aussies would have done it anyway. Leahmann spoke up after Stuart Broad spoke out against Australia saying we had a lot that didn't walk. The difference is a lot of ours went to the Drs and was deemed not out. We couldn't review yours so we couldn't get the review. The person I am blaming for this is the umpire as soon as it was caught myself, Commentators and the fielders new it was out (maybe Agar wasn't sure. I am taking broads word on that one. but the rest was). The fact that the umpire couldn't see it or hear it was beyond me. But to go on and say it wasn't clear cut as everyone thought is stretching it a little.

Posted by Vasi-Koosi on (August 22, 2013, 3:52 GMT)

The pot calling the kettle black. What are we to do with Ricky, Andrew & the entire Australian team for Melbourne fiasco. You reap what you sow; what goes around comes around. Cough it up and be a man. What about PUP not walking....

Posted by Anwaar-Sandhu on (August 22, 2013, 3:48 GMT)

pathetic response to say the least!

it seems Australia is hopeless!

Posted by MightySun on (August 22, 2013, 3:42 GMT)

Dear Mr Lehman, request to think before you speak. Take the cricket history it will clearly reveal who is to be blamed for setting this precedence(if at all this is an evil for the game)...and now when you face the other side of the wall you react like this, that too kindling for crowd emotions as well.Did u forget the Clarke catch of Ganguly and Andrew Symonds not walking on a clear edge which went as far as to slip against Ishant Sharma.did i miss such statements from you then.Would request people of your caliber and stature to be level headed especially when making statements in public. This could be a part of mind games for last test/Ashes in Aus but pls don't drag public into this. # Feeling Ashamed and SAD.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 3:41 GMT)

"Hope he cries and has to go home" are the words one would expect from a petulant child and not the coach of a national cricket team. If Cricket Australia have any shred of dignity or credibility left there will be a new coach in place before the return series.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 3:17 GMT)

Really?? Mr Boof...your sanity has vanished like poof!!!If Broad has to be pilloried, so should Clarke, Symonds and Ponting as far as I remember. It was fun when the Aussies did it to other teams but it hurts when you are at the receiving end? Learn to accept that its all in the game!!

Posted by croak on (August 22, 2013, 3:06 GMT)

Interesting comments from Lehman! Guess he was no where near Sydney in 2008 when Symonds edged to first slip and the blind umpire couldn't see it. That match was literally robbed out of India's hands by bad umpiring and unsportive Australian team. It is best if Lehman keeps quiet. Stuart Broad not walking didn't cost Australia the series. Their batting is the cause. Unfortunately, most of their batsmen were getting out bowled, LBW or straightforward catches and never got a chance to stand their ground!

Posted by Phat-Boy on (August 22, 2013, 2:11 GMT)

King Julien, it was Langer who didn't walk against Pakistan in 99-00.

Posted by Cricket_theBestGame on (August 22, 2013, 2:11 GMT)

@ king_julien - spot on. gilly was very selective in his walking !!

CA should censure lehmann for his attacking an opposition's player...and that after so long after the 1st test too.

didn't clarke say he has not bad feelings for broad for not walking? why all the hoo haa no mr lehmann? and don't forget not walking was a trend aussies set for the world to follow..now we dont' like it when we lose matches because of opposition not walking !

Posted by BKyogi on (August 22, 2013, 1:38 GMT)

What is Lehmann blabbering about? He should be sacked as a coach and charged for instigating the Australian Public to heckle Broad when he comes down to play down under. The Aussies have a very short memory of their blatant mistakes but have a good one when it concerns other teams. Lehmann, have you forgotten when A. Sydmonds did not walk when he was out in the 3rd test against India and went on to score century and won the match. The then Indian captain said that only one team played in the spirit of the game. I do not remember, the Indian coach did anything to instigate the Indian public like you did. Shame on you Lehmann.

Posted by srikarkav on (August 22, 2013, 1:30 GMT)

Come come Mr Lehman, where were you when Andrew Symonds nicked it to the first slip and stood his ground in the most controversial test in Oz against India? It was not even off the 'keeper's gloves.He and Mr Bucknor ensured India didn't win that test and ultimately the series.So when your players say it is the umpire's job to to make decisions its alright but when others do its cheating?

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 1:23 GMT)

The solution is simple on catches the umpire must be allowed to question the batsman if he hit it, and if a batsman is found guilty of lying to an umpire he faces suspension and fine.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 1:10 GMT)

Lehmann has historical amnesia since when Australians walked. Ian Chappell had his edge broken caught at second slip and stood his ground the bowler Michael Holding almost broke down in tears. Gordon Greenidge who used to walk upon seeing stopped walking for the rest of his career.

Posted by Prawler09 on (August 22, 2013, 1:09 GMT)

Stop cribbing...get on with the game. its bee 3 games since then and your players have failed to make an impact. Darren if you are forgetting Australian batsmen were the first to not walk, you are now getting taste of your own medicine. Take it on the chin big fella....

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 0:57 GMT)

Fair enough, Darren Lehman, but, this approach to honesty, and walking when out, seems rather outdated considering the brutal competitive atmosphere the international players are in. But, thank you for bringing up this important point: if cricket loses its honesty, it will be cut throat deception that will take over.

International players, all of whom are idols of their respective countries, should take upon themselves to walk off when they know they are out. This is the message they should give to those youngsters who are growing up watching them.

Thanks again, for trying. Hope at least the Aussies will follow your leadership. Good luck.

Posted by Sadiq1952 on (August 22, 2013, 0:55 GMT)

Lehman's outburst is conduct unbecoming. Stuart Broad was wrong but Lehman's comments are in very poor taste. As a manager he needs to show higher standards of behavior and restraints. The way Australia lost the fourth game shows interal weaknesses. Lehman should focus on resolving those rather than spend energy wrongly on one incident.

Posted by PSSidhu on (August 22, 2013, 0:42 GMT)

Mr. Lehman, what have you got to say about Andrew Symonds in the 2007 Sydney test against India?

Posted by   on (August 22, 2013, 0:34 GMT)

Talk about missing the point. Broad keeps talking about the incident and saying he hit it. It was obvious and he practically guided it to first slip. How many players, who get a thick edge to slip, who don't walk. Next you'll have players standing their ground when they've spoonedbit to cover or mid-on. It was terrible and not even close.

Posted by Sportius on (August 21, 2013, 23:57 GMT)

Mr.Lehman should check his captain's footage first. Micheal Clarke did nick it to slip and waited an eternity for the umpire to raise his finger before walking of. luckily on that occasion umpire raised his finger. Everybody does that. Aussies are no angels . So leave the decisions to umpire and concentrate on at least winning a test match

Posted by Trevor_WI on (August 21, 2013, 23:50 GMT)

Does anyone here remember Dinesh Ramdin caught behind in the ICC champions trophy ? How is Broad not trying to deceive the umpire ?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 23:45 GMT)

Joking comments made on a blokey radio programme. Some of you cricket journo's and commentators really need to get some kind of grip. Stirring up hysteria. the world is becoming a sad place.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 23:44 GMT)

Every thing is fair in love , war and cricket ..

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 23:43 GMT)

Darren, do you remember how many times Aussies dint walk and that changed the result of the game. Need a count? You are worst loser, it is just a game you could have lost with pride.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 23:33 GMT)

Oh great. Turns out Lehmann is another pillock. Short memory Darren. Remember when Clarke didn't walk after an edge in the last series? He even tweeted that he'd got away with one that night. Is it one rule for the Aussies and one for everyone else? I thought you'd be different Bouf - turns out you are a whinging Aussie like the rest.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 23:25 GMT)

What about all the Austrialian Players who did'nt walk aganist the West Indies over and over. Healy and Steve Waugh against Lara. Australians are poor losers.

Posted by riz103 on (August 21, 2013, 23:16 GMT)

King_Julien, you're spot on about Gilchrist only walking selectively based on the game situation. It killed me to see everyone praising him for being such a good sport when I so clearly remember him edging Akram's delivery and standing his ground. Pakistan lost because of that. BTW he was also out plumb on Azahar's(?) delivery in the same innings, but the umpire didn't think so.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (August 21, 2013, 22:52 GMT)

What we have found out about the Lehmann comments is Indian, Pakistani and Sri Lankan supporters can hold on to the decision that went against them and bare a grudge for many years. I guess you guys have had never had favourable decisions go your way? Why do we continually here about this Sydney game - Yes Symonds nicked it but was given not out, but then we here the bogus comments that never happened claimed a questionable catch - there was no question he caught it, "Clarke pressured umpires" - he appealed for balls that were out and was confirmed by the umpires. Time to move on bad decisions occur and it was only one, strange that you have all forgotton the Ponting LBW in the same innings.

Posted by Skylight28 on (August 21, 2013, 22:52 GMT)

I hope Lehmann is a Cricinfo reader - and he reads this article and its comments. Hopefully he will realize the overwhelming opinion on these discussion boards is not in favor of his comments. I also hope other Aussies are reading these comments and calling up their friends to say "Don't follow what Lehmann said - lets be gracious hosts instead when Broad shows up down under. Lets make Broad cry, not by our words, but by the quality of Cricket we play against him"

Posted by Liquefierrrr on (August 21, 2013, 22:52 GMT)

Those who are implying contradiction (re: Lehmann said it would be fun) or hypocrisy (the tired, faulty and tiresome 'Aus players never walk' theory) is missing the point here.

The Australian team is under huge pressure so Lehmann is releasing that pressure valve by putting himself in the spotlight.

How best to put oneself in the spotlight in England? Make scatching and volatile remarks. Whilst speaking to an Australian radio he'd have known the implications here.

Not only that, the Australian crowds will listen.

This is smoke and mirrors, anyone who has missed it is missing the point.

And with all that pressure off Aus we turn out probably one of our best days of cricket this series, and Watto slams a huge, daddy hundred. Are you watching closely?

Posted by Sorcerer on (August 21, 2013, 22:50 GMT)

Does Lehmann remember a most blatant incident in Hobart '99 Test vs Pakistan, involving Justin Langer?

Posted by sanshe1238 on (August 21, 2013, 22:39 GMT)

Hello Mr Lehmann, you sounded like a very bad looser. The world cricket followers know that Australian players do not walk when they knick the ball. It does not matter if the keeper or the first slip caught it. So please stop crying about it like a baby and try to find a way to win at cricket. Australia has a good side and they have done well for the last few years. you lost greats like, Ponting, Hussey and few other, now build your team and show that you can handle any situations as a coach. It appeares as if you are looking for a cop out for your misserable tour as the head coach. Lets face it, England are the best side in the world now. They beat India in India and Australia got trashed in India. I know those are not the best coinditions to play cricket but you have to be tough when the going gets tough. So please throw away your negativity and excuses, look for winning combinations as you have the players who could get you there. Good luck mate and best wishes!!!!! you can do this.

Posted by Ravs1504 on (August 21, 2013, 22:37 GMT)

come on Darren ...dont' make yourself a laughable stock!

Posted by SLAMMER on (August 21, 2013, 22:34 GMT)

Lehmann's comments give us an idea at the level of intelligence he possesses and assumes listener's to the rado station and readers have to take in his myopic view as gospel truth. As regards giving Stuart Broad a hard time in the Australian summer, I don't think the Aussie media and fans need any goading from Lehmann, as for the media, especially Channel 9 commentary team any player from the visting team who comes in with half decent form and class will be trash talked.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 22:32 GMT)

I remember something: After being caught at the slip off Anil Kumble, Clarke was waiting for the decision. Harsha said, "I think, he is waiting for tomorrow's newspaper to declare him out."

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 22:23 GMT)

Symonds @ Sydney v India 2008, anyone?

Posted by La_Bangla on (August 21, 2013, 22:10 GMT)

I wonder how these Aussies think? Obviouly their mouth run faster then the brain. I just can't comprehend how some one of Lehman's stature would make such weird calls? Does he really deserve to be the coach of Australian cricket team..?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 22:09 GMT)

Wow... look who is talking. Remember what kind of spirit we played in the Aus-India 07-08 Series in Australia few years ago. Do you even remember Andrew Symonds not walking after a clear nick?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 22:02 GMT)

Two sides of the same coin. Broad is doing what it takes to win for England. Australia needs to rise to the challenge. That is what Test cricket is all about. Darren needs to be more mature in his approach.

Posted by hhillbumper on (August 21, 2013, 21:51 GMT)

I think given this clarion call that England fans should boo a succesful Aussie sportman.If we find one then we can start but for the life of me I just can't think of one.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 21, 2013, 21:48 GMT)

As I said at the time - even for obvious nicks - you often see the batsman wait for the umpire's finger to be raised which (probably 99.9% of the time happens). But I wonder , if the batsman who waits for the decision before walking didn't get the finger , how many of those would walk? Also - in this series - Warner actually reviewed one which he clearly gloved. So is Lehman telling me that a guy who does that would walk? Personally , I think Broad waited for the expected decision and then when it didn't come he just decided to ride his luck. Also no one noticed that Broad walked for a less obvious edge the game after - but of course no one would notice that happening with the man they love to hate

Posted by Patchmaster on (August 21, 2013, 21:37 GMT)

When the Aussie captain doesn't walk and the Aussie coach never walked....then why should Broad walk ?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 21:25 GMT)

Great brother - we haven't forgotten Andrew Symonds not walking in Sydney test against India.

Posted by Shairani on (August 21, 2013, 21:22 GMT)

Hah. Australians, of all!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 21:19 GMT)

You will be paid for your deeds. Hope you remember the Sydney Australia-India Series of 2008?? I guess you very well do!!!

Posted by gsingh7 on (August 21, 2013, 21:15 GMT)

what they say of people living in glass houses??. still vividly remember symonds refusing to walk after a healthy edge in sydney test vs india. aus should first do what they demand of others.. his motive is to distract fromthe dismal form of the team with 7 losses out of last 8 games.

Posted by Mervo on (August 21, 2013, 21:13 GMT)

We should let England have their moment in the sun. After dominating them for 16 long years, Australia has to take a few lumps for a short time. Really this series has been close. England fell over the line with good fortune in Test 1, well won in T2 and then were saved by rain from defeat in T3 and had a moderate win in T4, when Aust should have won. And this one will put them under pressure again. They are a good average side, playing an average but improving side. Broad is an aside in all this. Of course one should not have to justify one's own actions by referring to other in the past. We could all be bank robbers if that was the case. Broad should have walked and the umpires should have been removed after that test.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 20:59 GMT)

Where were you Mr. Lehmann when Michael Clarke edged it to slip and waited for the umpire's decision during the 2008 Sydney Test?? Karma has caught up with you guys finally..

Posted by RohanMarkJay on (August 21, 2013, 20:52 GMT)

Mr Lehmann forgets himself and his own team back in the 1990s. Sure Broad nicked it, hit it rather and should have walked in the 1st test. However few batsman have walked in the last 20 years. Especially the Australians, I recall many instances when Aussies in the last 20 years nicked it and stood their ground. Also until the third test in Manchester Aussies were poor. Most of the first test was England's. I don't think Broad walking would have made much of a difference. Also calling aussie crowds to get stuck into Broad.This might have the opposite effect on characters like Broad. No Lehmann, the reason why you lost the Ashes this time is because the Aussie team didn't turn up in the first and second tests. Very hard to come back from 2-0 down.So saying Broad walking at a crucial time would have made a difference.I don't agree with it.Remember also Hughes, Agar and Haddin tail enders made it close 1st test.Good news is this Aussie team isn't a bad team and in Oz it will be very close.

Posted by mzm149 on (August 21, 2013, 20:41 GMT)

@Sultan2007: India are above England in test ranking because they haven't updated the table for quite a long time and this ranking is before start of Ashes. England are already 3-0 and no matter whatever the result of the last game will be they will go above India. Moreover India has to play test series in South Africa and whitewash at best is on the cards as we all know unless South Africans retire Steyn, Morkel, Philander, Amla, Kallis, Duminy, DuPlessis and deVilliers at once :-). Moreover Pakistan has to play a couple of home series and their ranking will improve as well. These rankings change quite often and we cannot conclude that a team is unbeatable unless it stays at top for a long time.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 20:31 GMT)

Thought this problem come up with the game situation . Some players would walk , some players are not . But if think about the game situation don't think that any kind of cricketers in the world would walk away , cos everyone's work hard for the team , and don't want to loose any games .play for your country ,represent your country and win your country . That's what players looking for .!

Posted by landl47 on (August 21, 2013, 20:25 GMT)

This is total, unmitigated, gutless (he doesn't have to go out and face any bouncers) whingeing from Lehmann. How about Brad Haddin sticking around after, as he admitted, he knew he hit it for the last out in the first test? Is it somehow better if with the game on the line you sit tight and hope you're not found out?

I thought Lehmann had more to him than this. He's made himself and the Australian team look like a bunch of cry-babies, soft and unable to play with the big boys. I've always been a great admirer of the Aussie character because it didn't include wailing "It's not fair".

Lehmann deserves to fail and with that attitude no doubt he will.

Posted by kmanchala on (August 21, 2013, 20:22 GMT)

You gotta be kidding me Lehman.. Oz's are the worst with sportsman spirit... you talking about cheating.. nahhh.. doesn't suit you..

Posted by GrindAR on (August 21, 2013, 20:16 GMT)

Probably WI & SubContinent batsmen walked without even looking at umpire(s) when they were sure about it pathetically so they did for LBW cases as well. Probably they did too honestly even the match results and situations did not impact their honesty... in the end their teams have lost matches. Eng/Aus played by rules, so if umpire not giving out, they stood firmly... this also gave umpires second thought wether the batsmen actually out or not.. many times even when plumb. The gentleman-ness attached to this sport died right there... DL is doing a round the head sledging on Broad now... when he himself and his team mates did even worst than what broad did... If their bowlers were capable they could have got him out very quickly than he lasted.. PS: Broad is not a specialist batsman. On that day he ruled... So DL, shutup and do your duties properly...

Posted by Joll on (August 21, 2013, 20:08 GMT)

Easy way to deal with the issue of walking is to fine players heavily, or suspend them, if they don't walk when replays conclusively show they were out. This could be done on the basis by not walking the player has brought cricket into disrepute. What Broad should have done, after he nicked it, is turned to Clarke and said "I will walk off now if you promise me all your bastmen will walk during this series." The response from Clarke would have been interesting.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 20:00 GMT)

Dear Lehman,

could you please let us know your opinion about this http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausvind/content/story/330705.html :P

Can you please ask your Australian fans to give your captain the same treatment which you prescribed for Board.

am sure evrybody in this world knows what will be your answer ;). I hope it will be 3-0 against australia in Australial

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:56 GMT)

WHAT is Out in CRICKET ?????????

If a Batsman feature in Catch,Lbw,run out,stump,handling,coming late ,bowled -hit wicket ,disturbing the fielding and importently the UMPIRE should confirm and authorize this as out : Batsman is out only if umpire calls and accepts ( this applies to walking away )::: and cricket pandiths accepts and beleives these deviations from beleifs and actual decisions EVENS out after certain time ; some time bats man feels benfittd and some time unlucky ...this evenness speads beyond an individual bats man : : if this equilibrium fails to certain extent then new inventions will come to bring back the equilibrium :

Posted by Ninety9 on (August 21, 2013, 19:53 GMT)

I don't understand what's the big deal. When managers in football can speak their minds, why is cricket being so touchy-feely about it? It's a tough world out there. Get used to it.

Posted by lala_fan on (August 21, 2013, 19:53 GMT)

someone should make lehman read this blog by michael jeh written 2 days ago. http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/663607.html

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:50 GMT)

Forgot Sydney test Lehman :-D

Posted by HiyerNHiyer on (August 21, 2013, 19:45 GMT)

I am no fan of Broad. In fact I was over the moon when he went for Six 6's. I think he gets away with un-sportsman like attitude for reasons whatever. But in this case its the umpires who made the "Howler" of a decision. Batsmen rarely if ever walk, and I would be shocked if any of the Aussies or Englishmen walked. DRS should be used to eliminate such howlers irrespective of whether they are reviewed or not. Give the Coaches of the side a review which they can use at their discretion outside of the two reviews per innings. The Bigger concern is the Umpiring Standard that has been prevalent in the Ashes. I would suggest bring technology in to identify No Balls and run outs.

Posted by krishmar1 on (August 21, 2013, 19:42 GMT)

Pot calling the kettle black -- Australians are the least of all the so-called saints. To cite just one instance, anyone remember the infamous Sydney test vs India in 2008?

I am sure they don't walk even when they are clean bowled -- they look at the keeper wondering if he flicked the bails!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:36 GMT)

This is hilarious. The word sour doesnt even do justice to how Lehmann is feeling. I just hope Stuart Broad nicks one again this match and stands his ground to be given not out. That would make my day.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:27 GMT)

Sorry Lehmann, but your comments are backfiring on you. You are trying to cover up the real issue and the public is behind Broad, not against him ;)

Posted by dravindian on (August 21, 2013, 19:14 GMT)

ohh dear!!! ... look what " Australian coach is saying" ... Australia has already lost its pride on loosing 7 out of 8 matches.. this is the last thing they wanted.. never seen a coach asking home crowd to trouble opposition player( do I need to say.. its shameful & against the spirit of the game) .. perhaps his players are not good enough to do that to trouble Broad on the field.. Not Walking is off course not a crime.. & one can see walking as a crime as its actually going against umpires decision.. however asking home crowd to abuse a opposition player.. so cheap if not criminal.. shame!!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:13 GMT)

Mr Lehmann, Adam gilchrist and justin langer should have gone to the pavilion as when they nicked and also were caught plumb in front in the crucial test between pak and australia at hobart which pakistan was in winning position. accept it .. its ur turn now mate.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:06 GMT)

Darren Lehmann saying he does not advocate walking but then goes on to say Braod should have walked is contradictory . An edge is an edge big or small , fullstop !! He also conveniently neglects to recall when he nicked it big in Trinidad and did not walk and went on to a double ton ! Smh Aussies stand their ground even when they are bowled !!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 19:03 GMT)

to me the aussies are just sore losers. sure broad probaly should have walked but good on him for standing his ground and waiting for the umpires decision. Lehmann should be focusing on telling his players to stop wasting reviews lbw decisions that are hitting middle stump!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:58 GMT)

If Aus didn't think Broad was a threat they wouldn't be talking this way. Their captain has problems facing him and Shane Watson has a sore neck tonight thanks to Broady. If I was an Aussie player or fan, I wouldn't want Broad to play against us for a whole series, either!

Posted by ThilankaK on (August 21, 2013, 18:57 GMT)

who to blame ? I think to his captain for waste there DRS appeals .

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 21, 2013, 18:56 GMT)

I think broad indecent was shameful to cricket but aussie r no different except gilly so they are unnecessarily complaining and diverting the media

Posted by SThilakRaj on (August 21, 2013, 18:53 GMT)

Is that only me or did Australia already lost hosting the Ashes!?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:53 GMT)

Three losses are catching up. Lehman needs some counselling. Imagine, what happens if the final test ends in a draw or even in a loss. This guy would need some therapy.

Posted by Ashique129 on (August 21, 2013, 18:41 GMT)

And with that I have lost all my respect for Lehmann the coach. Typical Australian sledger.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

@shaggy076: it relates to Broad this week getting into the press saying that the English team want to be disliked, and saying that he never knew for sure that he hit it. Boof's fuse was lit...

Posted by ROXSPORT on (August 21, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

Now that Broad has brazenly admitted that he knew he had edged it, he should be charged for cheating as was done to the Windies keeper, Denesh Ramdin I think, who claimed a "bump" catch and was subsequently penalised. The same happened to Rashid Latif many years ago and a Bangladesh player some time later. Why this selective application of rules.???

Posted by DoubleKickDrum on (August 21, 2013, 18:36 GMT)

Sore losers.... but losers none the less!

I think Broad has enough character to give 'it' right back.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:30 GMT)

@king_julien: Flower a gentleman? Under his tutelage, England have become the most despised team on the planet. It is definitely a "win at all costs" mentality, leaving spectators gasping at the depths to which this team will plumb to get that "win". Jellybeans on the pitch, constant flow of sub fielders and resting of bowlers, run outs and "mistaken" calls for tea, surrounding the umpire a la football, time wasting with shoe replacements and calling for pads for fielders, sullenly whinging in /at the press, yes, . constant chirping at the umpires about light or the state of the ball or overappealing : yes, this is the legacy with which gentleman Flower leaves this team, and it's my opinion that the game is not better off for this kill or be killed attitude.

Posted by Front-Foot-Sponge on (August 21, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

Broad standing his ground when he smashes it to slip isn't a surprise is it? His win at all costs interview was telling; by tough he meant we will disregard any notion of the spirit of the game.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

Really poor words by Lehman..I totally agreed with Broad. It was not clear cut and why should he walk when none of the Australians were. In the same game, Haddin also knew he nicked in the end, so wasn't he cheating then. The English media too, I tell you, never happy with anything. The simple fact is its 3-0, an ashes series win. Support the team instead of criticizing them. Had the football team achieved even 20% of this, the media would been all over the place. Well done England. They won simply because they won the crucial moments. England have underperformed and yet lead 3-0. That is how good this side is.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

Why is Mr.Lehmann crying? Was'nt it Pontin who told his players do not walk? In the Caribbean Symonds was caught behind twice and did not walk.The only Ausie who would walk was Gilchrist.

Posted by Dhushan on (August 21, 2013, 18:22 GMT)

Hahaha Darren Lehmann. Nothing else to do, so he had to pick on something. Desperation oozing out from all over him. This is so very funny. I wonder whether he preaches the same to the Australian batsmen who don't walk when they nick.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 18:19 GMT)

What About Ponting doing the same on numerous occasions, Clarke against Sri Lanka(one I remember and maybe more) and Symonds in the Sydney Test against India? These were highly criticized incidents that most people have not forgotten. Ponting and Symonds are famous for not walking on plain vanilla decisions, waiting for DRS to turn it over and then they walk back in shame. How is that Justified Mr. Lehmann?

Posted by swervin on (August 21, 2013, 18:06 GMT)

i think he's basically just joking....of course he had no obligation to walk and most wouldn't but australia still have every right to chip the guy about it if it gets under his skin...just a bit of gamesmanship

Posted by KarachiKid on (August 21, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

@ King_julien, you are spot on about that 1999 Hobart Test 'Although Gilchrist was the only walker, even he applied the walking rule selectively based on match situation. He didn't walk in the test match with Pakistan in 99-00 series, due to his partnership, Pakistan lost the test match. Had he walked Australia would have lost. So the situation of the match affected his decision." and to add further, even Langer was out !!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

Remember the India vs Australia test match, where Kumble said only one team played with the spirit of the game. Ganguly was given out even though Clarke caught a bounced ball. Andrew symonds was out in the start of the first inning, but he stood his ground. Sore losers, What goes around comes around.

Posted by Karthiks_devils on (August 21, 2013, 17:50 GMT)

sydney test of 2007 comes to my mind... symonds should have walked, so should have ponting. Australians appealed for a dismissal where, dravis bat was a mile away from the bat and did not regret when the umpire. No australian complained, so you should not complain now. What goes around, comes around...

Posted by royce4 on (August 21, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

Lol, no doubt the aussies will bowl lots of short stuff at him & we can discern Broad's true character on fast wickets at the WACA or the Gabba.

Posted by kbamar83 on (August 21, 2013, 17:45 GMT)

Lol. It is funny. Lehmann is getting desperate and frustrated. India lost the series to aussies in 2008 because clarke claimed a catch of ganguly which was clearly grounded. the same rules to your team too Mr. Lehmann

Posted by alexrdavies on (August 21, 2013, 17:43 GMT)

"I don't advocate walking but -"

But what? It wasn't a clear-cut case - you can tell that because he was given not out.

Lehmann believes players shouldn't walk (unless there's a media advantage in saying otherwise).

Personally, I disagree with him - but then, I'm old-fashioned. I like national coaches to stick to their principles. It seems Lehmann takes a more modern view.

Posted by Kido123 on (August 21, 2013, 17:42 GMT)

Can some one show Lehman the video how Michael Clarke sttod by his ground against India when he clearly edged to Slip and did not walk out at all... Broad has been picked up by him and media just to demoralize him and jab at him before he even goes to Australia... usual and senseless as ever from Aus management as ever..

Posted by Scrop on (August 21, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

Mr. Lehman, Rewind to 2008 Similar scenario - I still remember M. Clarke waiting for umpire decision when he edged the ball to first slip in Sydney test 2008. what do you call that as ?

Am not arguing what Board did as right, but you have to remember "What goes around comes around"

Posted by lvcric on (August 21, 2013, 17:33 GMT)

This is funny and am liking it.. Australian team was invincible couple of yes back.. and they were quite a few instances where the rub if the green went their way and they won series after series, unfortunately now that they r down they are showing how desperate they are to salvage some sympathy with their public. Looks like Lehman has chickened out. Such a shame

Posted by vinodkd99 on (August 21, 2013, 17:30 GMT)

What about Warner edging one to slips and calling for DRS. That was a similar sort of edge.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:30 GMT)

Mr. Lehman - I really hope you have a plan here ... maybe hoping for some of the famed "mental disintegration", etc.... because otherwise you are just sounding like a baby crying over spilt milk...

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:29 GMT)

I am amused by Lehman's outburst.

If batsman has to walk, the magnitude of nick should not be the criterion. When the batsman knows he nicked, whether the ball goes to the keeper or first slip should not matter and the batsman should walk.

Going by the history we all know, most of the batsman including Lehman has not walked when nicked the ball (faint nicks which the batsman will know though).

It's quite obvious that he lost his mind over the performance of the Australians in this series.

Posted by Prabhash1985 on (August 21, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

That was a long time ago. Lehman is scared that Broad will fire again. As usual this is expected from Australia.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:27 GMT)

It was Michael Clarke who did first. Remember six years before when edged a Kumble's delivery to Dravid at first slip and 'waited' for the umpire to give out. Why lehmann is silent about that ?

Posted by GenuineNumber11 on (August 21, 2013, 17:25 GMT)

This implication of Lehmann's comments is "we was robbed". Such comments show desperation and are likely to harm Australia's spirit more than England's. Australia would do better to improve and let their performances do the talking instead.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

Have you forgotten the sydney test of 2008 when symonds nicked the ball and the whole stadium listened the sound nick even then he won't walk and now you are saying about morality. Sore losers

Posted by liz1558 on (August 21, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

Just a bit of psychology - hopefully it will get Broad in the right frame of mind. He knows that Broad is going to be a potential match winner in Aus and he wants to put him off his stride. Doesn't make a less repugnant thing for him to say, especially as his own players have admitted to doing the same. Pretty foolish.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

Really? Don't you remember India Vs Australia Sydney test? I don't think any australian deserve to talk about walking.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 17:07 GMT)

Wow - that's classy. Australian coach calling opponent a cheat for not walking when their mantra for years was " only walk when the car breaks down..."

Posted by subbass on (August 21, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

Also I think Broad will relish having the Aussie crowd on his case. He is a that type of player imo, so it may backfire on them, it'll be interesting to see what happens. !

Posted by crktcrzy on (August 21, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

The Aussie coach is telling Australians to boo an arrogant English player who refused to walk away- Can't see a worse day for the gentleman's game that cricket was

Posted by Ashni2010 on (August 21, 2013, 16:57 GMT)

Its very simple. If Sachin Tendulkar can be out shoulder behind the wicket in the 1999-2000 series in Australia a decision which got the support of all the Australian team members (even the ones who were on the boundary) and the Australian greats doing commentary, then everything that you have tasted in England in the current series is also CRICKET. So just enjoy

Posted by kamalaravi on (August 21, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

The umpire Aleem Dar took a siesta and look what happens.People bring out new theories that if it is a thick egde you have to walk but for thin edges you can take a chance and stay put.In both cases the batsmen is not honest and follows the time honoured policy of the majority of batsmen to wait for the umpires decision.Lehmann could have made a suggestion to increase the number of unsuccessful appeals from 2 to atleast 3 or 4 instead of lashing out at Broad.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

Sadly, Lehman has realised all is lost...to bring up an issue from the 1st test, honestly, I think he;s finally lost it...for men (and women) in power, admitting defeat is worse than committing suicide, and they will do anything to prevent that...Lehman clearly knows that his side has been clearly outplayed in almost every session, let alone match, so far, and to avoid admitting this, he has come up with this hilarious rant! :P honestly, 'mate' grow up! admit that you were outplayed, to yourself, and then focus on how to improve...

Posted by Lahori_Munde on (August 21, 2013, 16:41 GMT)

Souns like Pot calling the kettle black. The coach of the national team should be mush mush more mature..

Posted by phaicy on (August 21, 2013, 16:31 GMT)

Quoting from The Australian March 28th 2011, "Ponting made no apologies for refusing to walk. "There were no doubts about the nick," Ponting said. "I knew I hit it, but, as always, I wait for the umpire to give me out. That's the way I've always played the game.""

So if the Australian crowd acts on what Lehman says it will be very disappointing.

Posted by PabuXI on (August 21, 2013, 16:30 GMT)

Lehman is just trying to save himself, as its the end of the test series. . I personally think that Broad had his right to stand ground. Unless there is a hard and fast rule about this why does a batsman have to walk. The intensity of the edge doesn't matter at any point. Everyone knows that the Aussie crowd is going to get on his back the coming summer and I'm pretty sure that Broad is come out all guns blazing. He has proved it time and again. To be frank Lehman is trying to save himself by supporting the team and give irresponsible reasons for their Ashes debacle. The ashes has out of their hand just because of selection blunders by letting down players like Hughes, Starc and even Agar. You don't build a team in a month. It takes time to get a winning combination. You need to give more chances to your players.Why pick Khawaja over Hughes if you are going to give him a long run. Starc did his fair share in every game before getting dropped. Lehman's ideas only showed his deperation.

Posted by A.Ak on (August 21, 2013, 16:28 GMT)

"We do have a win-at-all-costs mentality" - really?. I hope they never speak of SPIRIT of sport again.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

Broad was wrong. Period. However, I am starting to doubt if Lehmann is the right guy to coach at the moment after this outburst.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

Bit rich of an Australian to whine about a batsman not walking.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:22 GMT)

Darren Lehman himself never walked, most Australians never walk. Sangakkara, Gilchrists are walkers but most players do not walk.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:19 GMT)

Listen, who is talking. Australians should not give sermons to others about walking , because they have never been known for walking.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:15 GMT)

Hope Daren Lehmann does not forget that Andrew Symonds when he nicked Ishant Sharma to MS Dhoni in the II Test against India in Sydney in 2008 when he was around 30 did not walk as he was not given out & he went on to make 130 in that controversial test against India due to which we lost that test match. So Dareen Lehmann does not have right to comment Stuart Broad for not walking.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 16:15 GMT)

Ricky Ponting actually criticized Gilchrist for walking... In an ideal world, everyone should walk, but we are not living in an ideal world, aren't we? It is strange to hear/read not walking criticism from an Australian player of all the people...

Posted by bluhunter on (August 21, 2013, 16:07 GMT)

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, how does it feel?

Posted by NeoMac on (August 21, 2013, 16:06 GMT)

What can I say.. Darren Lehman has finally expressed how he feels about losing and is looking for excuses. Not sure if Broad will cry in Australia but sounds like someone is really about to cry.. I mean.. really! get over it already. He didn't walk, they won that match. What about the other losses? Brydon Coverdale got it right - Lehman fires, but misses the point. There is no grey area.. either you cheat or you don't ..unless you are Lehman.

Posted by Reagos on (August 21, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

I had loved Lehmann as a a player in his day, but after this comment I refuse to read or hear any commentary on him. Aussies never walk, with the exception of Adam. You guys catch bounce ball and claim it was out, worse sportsmanship ever!! Bret Lee was a class act too, what a good cricketer and sportsman. Now you dont agree to walk if you edge to the keeper but if you edge to 1st slip you should walk. I am confused. I am almost certain you are going to lose your job very soon...keep talking and hope it creates a distraction away from the real issue.

Posted by Tru_Cricket_Fan on (August 21, 2013, 15:54 GMT)

Sheesh, it is a part and parcel of the game. Australian Cricket never plays fair and now suddenly you are a champion for the Spirit of Cricket? Wow...

Posted by amk23 on (August 21, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

Mr Lehman!!! It is the story of the past !!! no one is saint !!! calm down !!! I guess you would have done the same thing if umpires had given you not out even if there is clear edge !!!

Posted by salm on (August 21, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

@abid Ashar...you are right bro..but it was Justin Langer who stood his ground and Pakistan lost the match

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 15:41 GMT)

Mr.Lehmann should remember that the skipper of this very Australian team, Mr.Michael Clarke stood his ground (was it that heated Sydney test against India in 2008) after hitting to slip! Look who's talking now.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

Not sure if these Aussie mind games will work against England. How can they forget the 2011 test against India where half their players decided not to walk in the game.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 15:34 GMT)

look who is talking...... aussies must not cry about walking after nicking.......gilly was an exception...otherwise...may it be ponting, hussey or any one else they do not walk....according to ponting its the job of umpire to make the decision........

Posted by king_julien on (August 21, 2013, 15:28 GMT)

When Lehman was chosen as the coach of Australia...I actually thought that fun would be back in their cricket, something they were actually lacking of late. Acting like a sore loser was the last thing I expected. More players from Australia didn't walk this series than English, did Flower call them cheats? But he's a great coach and yet such a gentleman.

Although Gilchrist was the only walker, even he applied the walking rule selectively based on match situation. He didn't walk in the test match with Pakistan in 99-00 series, due to his partnership, Pakistan lost the test match. Had he walked Australia would have lost. So the situation of the match affected his decision. Similarly, Broad's catch came at a crucial juncture...even a walker would not have walked in such a situation. Can you tell one instance where you (Lehmann) walked?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 15:22 GMT)

Can someone please give Darren Lehman the 2008 Sydney test vs India footage of Andrew Symonds not walking after a massive edge and Bucknor goofing it big time! Gilly started walking quite late in his career. Aussies have always played hard to win and indulged in plenty of gamesmanship. Lehman is behaving like the proverbial sore loser and relying on crowds rather than his team to win the Ashes!

Posted by AmitNair on (August 21, 2013, 15:21 GMT)

Amazing! This is so funny! I am sure the Aussie team members have halos behind them for their amazing honesty and walking for nicks!

Mr. Lehmann...reality check...do you remember the times a certain Aussie captain DID NOT walk against India and went on to make double centuries???

Posted by king_julien on (August 21, 2013, 15:16 GMT)

Really!!!! and who all will be giving it to him...players like Clark who stood their ground after edging it to first slip and claiming a grounded catch in the same match? If I do it...then its because I play hard. But if the opposition does it, its cheating. What he said in public was bad..really...what you are saying is obnoxious....

Broad's nick was not as big as it was being made out to be, it was deflected off the keeper to first slip it's being made out to be bcos of the situation. And what does he mean when its that blatant?? will we now put a parameter to decide how big an edge is too big.

The biggest disappointment has been that the Aussies just won't let it go. Such strong words........can't recall such words being used by an opposition coach in even the worst of crisis...even in the underarm bowling incident, Sydney '08

Such a sore loser....if cricket was played by the mouth, Lehman would have ruled it. pls publish

Posted by xylo on (August 21, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

I think the Australian crowds will be picking on their own given their extraordinary performance in tests abroad this year.

Posted by ander123 on (August 21, 2013, 15:03 GMT)

Mr. Lehmann, please don't use Broad's unsportsmanship as an excuse for first test defeat and to take out your frustration over dismal Australian performance this Ashes. Accept the fact, the golden days of Australian cricket are gone. Moreover, rather than critizing Broad look at your very own team. Australian cricket has always been notorious for unsportsmanship. They lead every other team in such practices by great margins. (They form best rolemodels for younger upcoming cricketers who aspire to learn such unsportsmanship). The best egs can be taken from India's tour of Australia, 2008. Clarke refused to walk off when the catch was taken at first slip of anil kumble (it was the absolute same replica of Broad's catch), ricky ponting and symonds after clearly nicking the ball to the keeper stood their ground, clarke claiming the false catch and list can be endless. Mr. Lehmann please see whre ur team stnd. U r evn wrse!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:59 GMT)

Trying to divert the attention from poor a performance will never be the manager of a winning team.

Posted by Changi on (August 21, 2013, 14:53 GMT)

Sydney 2008.. Your current captain set the trend in edging to slip and NOT walking.. pot calling the kettle black?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

Oh My God! Look who's talking. The Aussies are such Bad Losers and have always been! Lehman should accept that they have lost the Ashes! Well..The Law Averages have so caught up the Aussies! I just hope the English Teams gives it back to them on their Home turf!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

I hope they must not forget what their than captain ricky ponting did with the catch he took it on the bounce against india..........

Posted by samuelvin on (August 21, 2013, 14:48 GMT)

Lehmann woudn't have commented on broad like if this if they had won that match and the margin of defeat was just 14 runs.Could understand the frustration of being 0-3 down in the series but being an international aspect for years,i din expect lehmann would react this way. I would say 50-50 broad should have walked off the pitch and the otherside the umpire wasn't sure whether he nicked it or not.When australian's din walk off then y should broad.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:47 GMT)

England is renown for booing now, cricket, rugby, soccer... I think the Aussie crowds will be a bit more polite.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

mr lehmann..pls go n see sydney test.... see ur teammate symond...n den comment on broad...

Posted by JetmansDad on (August 21, 2013, 14:40 GMT)

The problem with all sports is that the rules don't really cover acts of sportsmanship in specific terms. In football, there was a "tradition" of teams putting the ball out of play when an opponent was down injured, and then being given it back when play restarted, but occasional, perfectly legal, violations of that principle led to the footballing authorities declaring that it was up to the referee to stop play in case of injury.

Surely that applies here. Broad did nothing to violate the rules of cricket by waiting to see whether the umpire gave him out or not, and I can't imagine for a second that he would have continued to stand there if the finger had gone up.

Perhaps, rather than have these massively overheated debates on walking/not walking, it is time for the cricketing authorities to simply state ... "no one walks, leave the decision to the umpire, with or without the assistance of a DRS review".

Then everyone knows exactly where they stand.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:31 GMT)

wow..I don't think except Gilly anyone walked out in Auzz team...don't preach what you don't practice

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

Those whose house is made of glass should not throw stones to others..

Posted by Rohit... on (August 21, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

Classic Australian Mind Games... This time though he is using it to hide the real issue.

Posted by LionsNeverGiveUp on (August 21, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

hey then what you have to tell about sanga's dismisal at hobart??????????????

Posted by Wonderba on (August 21, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

Tit for tat. When player from other team does not walk, why people are expecting Australians should walk.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

So, what about the case when a batsman is given out and actually he is not out.In that case, do the fielders withdraw appeal?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 14:03 GMT)

Are you serious Mr.Lehmann??? Since when it is an offense NOT to walk. Over the years it was the Oz who 'stood' their ground barring Gilchrist and suddenly Broad is a villian for doing the same? Stop instigating the Australian crowds for a reason that you think is right. Let's pretend for a moment that Broad walked that day, can you confidently say that Australia would have won the Ashes? The answer lies within you.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 13:59 GMT)

I do think Broad stepped over the line - when its that blatant you should walk, if its a thin edge let the umpire do his job. But in practice he did the same as everyone else, so Lehmann is on thin ice.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 13:40 GMT)

Lehman ought to remember 1999 Hobart test against Pakistan when a reprieve from Umpire Parker helped him steal an unlikely win against Pakistan with fortunate Gilchrist.

Posted by superShiva on (August 21, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

even Haddin knew and agreed he nicked but stand ground .. u forgot this Lehman ???

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

When the entire Aussie team starts walking, then Lehmann would have an argument.

But since barely anybody walks, hard to fault Broad for doing the same.

Posted by subbass on (August 21, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

Wonder what he thinks of Bradman, who famous edged the ball to 2nd slip and stood his ground as somehow the umpire missed it.

Posted by Paul_Somerset on (August 21, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

Thinly veiled "Boo him, not me" plea imo.

Posted by thecosmicpuppet on (August 21, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

As an Australian I can't agree with Lehmann here. There are a few issues to consider about the walking situation. Firstly, sometimes the batsman doesn't know they've hit it. Secondly, sometimes the batsman thinks he's hit it but hasn't (I recall an incident when Gilcrist walked but wasn't actually out). Thirdly, if you walk then you're going to be out more times in your career than you deserve (given that you're certain to be given out sometimes when you weren't, and you're not taking advantage of the let offs). That being said I personally think it's pretty stupid not to walk when it's blatantly obvious you're out. You're just asking for controversy! But for the reasons above I can't really condemn players for not walking. The solution is just to improve the umpiring using technology and rules which are properly implemented (not the current system!). Then the issue of walking won't even arise.

Posted by rhinsall on (August 21, 2013, 13:15 GMT)

I'm trying to find how many times Lehmann walked himself in tests. Can anyone help?

Posted by Shaggy076 on (August 21, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

I'm a massive fan of Lehmann and that is mainly as a South Australian I have watched his career closely for a long time. I dont agree with what he has said here but would like to know what context he has said it. I dont believe there is any difference between walking for thin edges or big knicks, and have no issue with anyone that doesnt walk. But is Lehmann just stirring the pot? trying to put pressure on board? or believes what he said. That is hard to determine.

Posted by Wealwayslosethecricket on (August 21, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

It might be worthwhile mentioning that what Broad says basically boils down to "Australia has a win-at-all-costs culture, whereas we don't... But we have a win-at-all-costs culture."

Posted by goldeneye075 on (August 21, 2013, 12:48 GMT)

get a grip Lehmann !!! Come to reality that Ausi are going down big time, and time to regroup and fight for survival. Hay days are over for Ausi team, now it's all dirt and long winding road.

Posted by quarterjack on (August 21, 2013, 12:47 GMT)

The idea that he's maybe 5 days away from being the first Aussie coach to lose 4 Ashes tests in a series is weighing on him; that and the career opportunity as "former Aussie Coach." I think he's more likely than Broad to get stick from the crowd once they get to Oz.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:44 GMT)

I really find it extremely surprising to read this from an AUSTRALIAN. I very clearly remember their top order batsmen not walking to big edges and going on to save or even win test matches against Pakistan.And wats the difference between edging to the keeper or the first slip......u either walk or u dont......and historically Aussies never walk.......so Mr Lehman should look at his own team history before criticizing others.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

No mention of Haddin standing his ground for the last wicket, knowing he'd nicked it. This is just more Aussie whinging. Face it, you're just not very good anymore, stop blaming everyone else.

Posted by Dashgar on (August 21, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

Is Broad a cheat? Well he refused to walk, that's par for the course these days. Then he reviewed a ball he knew he'd hit, that's walking much closer to the line. He may not be a cheat, to cheat you have to break rules which he doesn't do, but he doesn't play in the spirit of the game. Lehmann didn't need to say a thing. Broad was gonna get booed anyway.

Posted by WAKE_UP_CALL on (August 21, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

Boof I have been a big fan of yours from your playing days .However i really believe those words don't belong to your mouth.May be it has to do with stuard broad who generally is not a likeable character.But one such incident shouldnt spark such attention.I am an Indian and still today for me it is not possible to watch replays of sydney test.That was pure injustice and brought disgrace to the game of cricket.I request you boof to have a beer and watch those replays and just don't open your mouth at all about being unfair.right from umpiring,to not walk with big edges,to claim bump catches I knew that the downfall started from that test. Thats KARMA because check the stats aussies just went on loosing spree since then.However now world does pity on you aussies ,we want you to win and reclaim your superiority but no whinging and crying out loud about umpiring decisions.Aussies had bullied umpires a lot for decades as in Allan Donald's famously words.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

@Rowayton: Agreed, it wasn't Symonds; but if u recall, it was Clarke who stood his ground even after being caught by Dravid at first slip off Kumble in the second innings of 2007-08 Sydney Test. Lets forget why India lost- that's not the point. The point is how could Clarke's behaviour be justified if today Braod is being criticised?

Posted by jmcilhinney on (August 21, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

@emmersonne on (August 21, 2013, 11:50 GMT), of course any Australian would be upset at what happened with Stuart Broad but there has been a lot of water under the bridge since then so to still be going on about it is a bit much. Also, if the shoe was on the other foot, I think that it's safe to say that Andy Flower would not be publicly accusing the Australian player of being cheat and he certainly wouldn't be using a blatant lie to justify it. I'm sure that Lehmann didn't bring this up himself but rather was asked a a question by a journalist, but he should have simply said that he was disappointed that Broad wasn't given out but it's up to the umpire to make that call. He also seems to be sweeping under the carpet the fact that Australia could have successfully reviewed that decision if they hadn't made that ludicrous LBW review against Bairstow. It's all just smoke to deflect attention from Australia's deficiencies, which is what people do when they're losing.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

This comes from a country notorious for the underarm-ball incident. It's a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Darren Lehmann would be better employed trying to find ways to improve his own team's performance, instead of finding fault with an opposition that beat them 3-0. He just comes across as a bad loser.

Posted by shamieshane on (August 21, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

I don't exactly remember the match or the opponent team, but similar thing was done by the so called Aussie caption Sir Ponting too..When asked about that incident he replied it is umpire's responsibility to decide whether he is out or not and there is no need for him to walk out.

Now when they in the receiving end, Aussies talking all against it. They just try to demoralize Broad in the 5th Test to take advantage. Yes, as usual this is aussies mind games.

Posted by SherjilIslam on (August 21, 2013, 12:24 GMT)

@Sultan2007 on (August 21, 2013, 11:51 GMT: Very well said. Broad is a highly overrated bowler.

Posted by Wealwayslosethecricket on (August 21, 2013, 12:24 GMT)

A little bit of sledging never hurt anyone, and based on Broad's reaction, it looks like it's got into his head a little bit. Lehmann is a smarter man than people give him credit for, and when he talks, people listen. Expect Broad to have a cold reception in the Australian Summer this year.

Posted by bourne.identity on (August 21, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

This ungainly attack on Broad opens up the big pandora's box. I am no fan of Broad. Quite on the contrary, being an Indian, I take delight when Indian batsmen take him to the cleaners. But if Lehmann wants to make an issue, he should be making it with the ICC, not Broad. Walking on close calls raises questions of its own, chiefly : are you not letting your side down in a critical situation ? If you leave out Adam Gilchrist and maybe one or two others, how many Oz batsmen have walked when they nicked and the umpire did not raise the finger. Even in the current series, I hardly ever see any Australian batsman walk before the umpire raises the finger when the nick is faint. That is what umpires, DRS and the ICC are there for : to get it right in tight calls. If they still don't it right despite the technology, Lehmann should be lamming into the umpires, DRS and the ICC.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

The Aussies havent walked in the past and wont now either. Double standards on the part of Lehmann. Also a weak effort to distract from the real issues with his team and unsettle the English, but doubt its going to help his team much.

Posted by Citygent3 on (August 21, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

Darren Lehmann needs to concentrate on matters concerning his own team. Throughout this series with the exception of Old Trafford his batsmen have struggled to get runs and on a couple of occasions (most notably 2nd inns at Durham) they collapsed. Also his bowlers have on occasions looked like they could not take 20 wickets for very few runs. Lehmann needs to take note that the batsmen not walking when they have clearly hit it (Gilchrist excepted) was started by his fellow countrymen and his current captain has in a recent Ashes series done exactly the same or is it a case of Lehmann forgetting all those occasions when an Aussie has done exactly the same.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (August 21, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

Lehman is obviously trying to stir people up here. Everyone knows most batsmen don't walk. Maybe he just got sick of hearing the crowds boo David Warner every time he does anything. The English fans and press have just been totally juvenile on that one. I still get a chuckle remembering Michael Vaughan's indignant jab at Warner for "picking on one of the smallest members of the English team". Too bad that Joe Root is actually 7 inches taller than Warner. But since when has reality stopped the English press?

Posted by milepost on (August 21, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

@dragnil on (August 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT) - spot on. How do we explain cheating to our kids when it is prevalent in so many sports? Sad times. I think Lehmann is setting out their intent and I don't have an issue with that. I'm sick of interviews with players and coaches regurgitating lines like 'bowl in the right areas', 'it was a good team performance' or 'players need to stand up'. Cricket is very much a mental game so let them get on with it. A bit of verbal niggle is alright. Broad nicked to slip and didn't walk and when you do that on TV and then boast about it you may well find yourself on the end of some criticism.

Posted by infinity88 on (August 21, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

I think Lehmann has forgotten what Australia did to India in the 2008 series that was played down under where the present captain Michael Clarke stood his ground after having edged to the first slip and had to leave the field thanks to some vociferous appealing from Dravid and Dhoni. So, strictly speaking, he doesn't have the moral right to accuse Broad now and I'd say Australia bit their own bullet in that test match

Posted by Ambaarr on (August 21, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

The chicken has come home to roost! Clearly Broad has gotten under the skin of the Aussies, a "technique" the Aussies have used so effectively during their heydays against their opposition.

Posted by Baundele on (August 21, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

Adam Gilchrist is the only Aussie that used to walk. Blame the umpire, not Broad.

Posted by Rowayton on (August 21, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

No Gaurav Kukreja we don't remember Symonds edging to first slip because he didn't. Indians are still whinging about that game. Face it, you lost because your tail bottled it and could not bat out one over from Michael Clarke of all people.

Posted by Jay.Raj on (August 21, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

Its not surprising. Its an Aussie move. When they cant win matches, they get frustrated and do this. just got to ignore it and smash aussies all over the park in the coming games.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

Lehman needs to look at Aussie players who got away due to poor umpiring, and hope for the same he wishes for Broad.

Posted by Shahid06 on (August 21, 2013, 12:12 GMT)

Hi everyone,

Not surprised to hear such comments from Lehman!! When Australians were doing well, no doubt they were good but most of the marginal umpiring decisions and a few howlers were going their way. They never talked about those.But since their decline, they have started complaining about everything.

Can't forget the partnership between Langer and Gilchrist against Pakistan in a Test match in Australia (Gilchrist got his first century). There were some dubious decisions against Pakistan although Pakistan were certain to win. Langer got a big nick to the keeper when facing Wasim Akram but never moved. Australians never talked about it for years.After about 10+ years, Langer said in an interview it was a nick which people could have heard sitting in the dressing room!! In 2003 WC first match b/w Pak, Aus, Symonds was plumb LBW to Afridi, went on to make 140 plus when Australia were reeling at 4/86.

1999 WC Final Inzi given caught behind wrongly..

One should accept umpiring!

Posted by PFEL on (August 21, 2013, 12:11 GMT)

Stuart Broad has some sportsmanship issues, but I don't think he's a cheat. Bad umpiring is bad umpiring, and Australia should be blaming them, the weather and themselves for their position in this series. Not Stuart Broad.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:10 GMT)

OMG Lehmann, Did you forget that Ricky edged the ball to Dhoni on Dads's bowling on the leg side and he dint even walk off. Also Clark Grounded the ball after the Ganguly's catch... What are you takining about... Its totally funny...

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (August 21, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

Lehmann is playing the part of the typical whinging Aussie, frustrated at being on the receiving end of a thrashing. 3-0 down and with just a dead rubber to play, Lehmann thinks that now is the perfect time to whinge about something that happened in the first test. I am enjoying this Ashes thrashing of Australia immensely I must say.

Posted by r_s_ on (August 21, 2013, 12:07 GMT)

Darren Lehmann is seizing on this one incident to make Broad look like a cheat, but it doesn't, or at least shouldn't, hide the fact that England have played average cricket and are still hammering Australia. Whether or not Broad should have walked, to suddenly resurrect this gripe on the eve of the 5th test is just a reflection of Lehmann's frustration with a uncharacteristically mediocre Australian team. Broad's decision not to walk is not the reason Australia (comprehensively) lost the Ashes.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:07 GMT)

There's a couple of videos in Youtube where Michael Clarke edged to Kumble to first slip and stood his ground (lucky umpire gave him out) and another I think this year where he edged Ashwin to short leg and didn't walk (was given not out) I have a feeling Lehmann hasn't seen the footage.

Posted by rahulsurapaneni on (August 21, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

Its now obvious that the australians are not able to digest the fact that the english are a far superior team. first of all many australian players including michael clarke and shane watson gave a statement that broad was within his rights for not walking. now after the humiliation of 3-0 out of 4 tests is making them to cry over spilled beans. it makes me laugh when of all the teams in the world it is the aussies who are talking about walking and sportsmen spirit. all the examples have been given below. i think darren lehman realized that they are going to lose 3-0 or 3-1 again down under anyway and it will be better for his team if can whip up public anger against broad. what a coach to replace mickey arthur!!!!!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

mr. lehman try to improve your team or quit if you cant handle this team, u r saying broad will cry in aus but first you stop crying and dont give excuses as if your team is too perfect enough. Think of your old team mates ponting, symonds. First try to find a warne and mc grath in your team and u will will matches rather commenting on opponent team and playing mind games, these days it doesnt work

Posted by humdrum on (August 21, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

@darrenCharles; totally agree with you.The only thing missing is steve waugh with his 'mental disintegration'formula. How the aussies must be missing him,but i do say this:if the aussies did not have grace while winning,how do you expect them to have it while losing?

Posted by Yevghenny on (August 21, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

but you are as wrong as an aussie calcu, as broad edged it, and it was the keeper that deflected the ball to 1st slip

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

Do the Aussies not remember Symonds edging Ishant to first slip and staying unmoved (Sydneygate)??!!! Double standards!!!

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (August 21, 2013, 11:59 GMT)

@RobTay14 "But, when there is a situation like this where you are so ridiculously, obviously, blatantly out" No . For us armchair fans it didn't look that obvious. For a fraction of second it just appeared as a deflection from keeper. That's all we could see that moment with out replays. Only umpire/players could have heard the noise (but then you never know if it was from bat)

It clearly wasn't as obvious or as blatant as Clarke's thick edge to slip against kumble in that Sydney 2008 test. More funny was his comments post match that he was too young and learning .

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

what's all the rubbish about it was the umpire decision leave Stuart Broad alone and just get on with the game.

Posted by Nash99 on (August 21, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

Lehman is acting like a sore looser! Aussies were repeat offenders in the 90's and the last decade. Sydney test when Clarke stood ground knicking Anil Kumble in the Sydney test, Steve Waugh vs West Indies are some glaring example. He is just complaining when given a taste of Aussies's own medicine!

Posted by S.h.a.d.a.b on (August 21, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

Mr. Lehman, keep your patience, we have seen a lot of parkers/harpers/hairs blunders and never forgot because we believe its part of the game. Fyi, in 2004-5, Pak tour of Aust, there were 33 doubt decisions in whole of a series but only 4 went against Australians. Ever imagined how painful it was for us, Pakistanis. It was mentioned by late Mr. Woolmer, not any of us.

Posted by Sultan2007 on (August 21, 2013, 11:51 GMT)

I dont know what Broad is talking about. The English seem to have an exaggerated view of themselves. Surely he is not suggesting that England are now a dominant Test side. They are ranked No 3 and their notable wins have been against India albeit both at home and in India. But it was an Indian team in transition (still is...and still ranked higher than them) with a pitiable bowling attack in England. Australia is unfortuantely in a similar situation in that, they are rebuilding. And please dont trash the ranking system. And lets not ever forget that England havent won even ONE major international event!!!!! To suggest that the Aussies may have dominated because of flagrant "cheating" is a ridiculous suggestion. Others may not have walked about that still doesnt make Broad's decision valid. The greates pleasure i have received in recent times was to have Broad seen thrashed for 6 sixes by Yuvraj. Here's hoping someone else does it to him. Highly overrated bowler.

Posted by emmersonne on (August 21, 2013, 11:50 GMT)

In all fairness, if I was an Australian, I would be absolutely fuming too. As I'm English, I'm just trying not to enjoy it TOO much in case Karma comes and bites us in the derriere.

Posted by Champagne_Cricket on (August 21, 2013, 11:50 GMT)

Philip_Gnana, you are correct. Not only were Australia on the verge of defeat but Kumar was on 190 odd and on the verge of creating history as the only batsman after the great Don Bradman to score 3 double centuries in a calendar year.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:49 GMT)

Three little words. 'The Underarm Incident'. After that Australians can absolutely NEVER EVER claim the moral high ground in a game of cricket. It was the single most unsporting act in the history of the game. Period.

Posted by gdevilliars on (August 21, 2013, 11:44 GMT)

I applaud Lehmann. Stuart broad is the key to England with both bat and ball. The Aussie players sure can't handle him, he's decided to take the challenge. God help him if Broady smashed a ton a took a 5for, they will be blaming Lehmann down under.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

Through the Australian glory years, I found the likes of Ponting and Langer sanctimonious and hypocritical. The gospel of Oz taught us that not accepting a fielder's word over a dodgy catch equated to moral bankruptcy - but ignoring Steve Waugh's catch first bounce off Brian Lara - but trying to intimidate an umpire into giving a caught behind when you know the batsman missed it was 'part of the game'. This latest bout of pious preaching from Lehmann really takes the biscuit. "I don't advocate walking" saysd Lehmann. Except when it's a clear nick. Eh? How does that work? Given Broad's stellar performance in Durham, keep up the sledging Aussies!

Posted by S.Jagernath on (August 21, 2013, 11:39 GMT)

Stuart Broad needs to mail Darren Lehmann a rule book & a clip of the incident & anyway when Broad was supposedly out,Englands lead was higher than Australia's eventual 4th innings total.Lehmann asking the Australian crowd to behave like hooligans is really poor on his part.

Posted by calcu on (August 21, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

Sir darren lehmann, I salute you!! Perfect speech! Not walking when you have nicked it to keeper is not cheating but not walking when you have had such a huge edge that it carried to 1st slip is unbelieveable! And I am not an aussie.

Posted by Philip_Gnana on (August 21, 2013, 11:35 GMT)

Very rich coming from one who has never walked. Perhaps the Aussie will call back when a batsman has been unfairly given out. When we look at blunders and howlers, I am reminded of a decision made again Kumar Sangakkara by umpire Rudi Koertzen when he was hit on the shoulder and was given out with the bat a yard away from the point of impact. Australia were on the verge of losing that game.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:35 GMT)

If Lehman serious then get both sides to agree to walk for all catches & if shown that they didn't then drop that player for next match - Will never happen because the 'professional' game loses the gentleman's approach. Lehman's rant is only a losing coach trying to get attention on England's players as excuse for the score line instead of Australia's woeful displays & selection.

Posted by Shotworth on (August 21, 2013, 11:34 GMT)

I just wonder, do any of the Australians actually realise that Broad snicked it to the keeper not first slip? it came off Haddin's gloves to first slip and that has either been forgotten or just ignored by some .

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:33 GMT)

Laughable! Utterly laughable!!

Posted by S.Jagernath on (August 21, 2013, 11:31 GMT)

Is Darren Leham listening to himself?Why was it not cheating when Ricky Ponting or Steve Waugh did not walk?Steve Waugh infamously did not walk leaving Alec Stewart utterly amazed.Australians enjoyed favourable decisions for decades but just a couple against them & they cry wolf.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

hypocritical is the perfect word to describe darren lehmann.GET OVER IT Australia lost tha ashes again that is the point

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

Really poor from Lehman. So he does not advocate walking unless you got a thick edge at which point it becomes cheating. Makes no sense, embarrassing stuff.

Posted by Shotworth on (August 21, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

I just wonder, do any of the bleating Australians actually realise that Broad snicked it to the keeper not first slip? it came off Haddin's gloves to first slip and that has either been forgotten or just ignored by some .

Posted by WilliamFranklin on (August 21, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

Bet Broad is shaking in his boots; the Australian crowds are not the er wittiest around are they. Barmy Army vs the contrived 'fanatics', no contest

Posted by murli786 on (August 21, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

Darren Lehman.... how does it feel when nothing goes in your favor. Gosh!! Have you forgotten the past? Well.. here is a small reminder of an incident that i can never forget... Sydney 2008... remember that game?

I reckon i have seen it all. Supremacy in all aspects of the game, sledging, mental disintegration and total decimation and these were the ''hallmarks'' of the mighty Australian team of the past. And then came Sydney 2008.. Symonds edged and did not walk and made a huge century. Ponting claimed a grounded catch. Michael Clarke too joined the boisterous Aussies putting pressure on the umpires and India lost a match that they shouldnt have. Nothing is going to change this Australian summer when the English will do the return tour. Try to find better excuses Sir.

Posted by RussianBear21 on (August 21, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

Sorry gents, but Lehmann has every right to be angry, and the Australian team. I'm a south african, but stand up for this humble aussie team. The fact that australians didnt walk was most likely a sort of revenge against broad. If doesnt walk, why should they. What Broad did shaped the test completely. ON the other hand, cricket is a gentlemans game. Where is the honesty in cricket this days. If I nick the ball I walk, simple as that.

Posted by shavneet on (August 21, 2013, 11:19 GMT)

Mr. Darren Lehman , I think you forgot sydney 2007 , when Andrew symonds with a huge edge to Dhoni , dint walk , and in 1999-2000 Test series SRT was not out four times , did you get that 4 times, and he was given out Shoulder before wicket. Your team wont win even a single test when the Ashes return to Australia, forget about booeing Broad , you boo when you are in top, australia will never be in top, England are too good !

Posted by timohyj on (August 21, 2013, 11:18 GMT)

this has got to be one of the most hypocritical things i have ever seen. There is not one australian batsman who would walk when given not out. how can he blast broad when people like ponting and symonds did the same thing multiple timews

Posted by Silver_Angels on (August 21, 2013, 11:18 GMT)

When these Australians are down and out, they call all sort of things. Ponting appealed for a ground balled catch against India and what about the sledging these aussies used to do. Mind games by Leh, Improve your team mate.

Posted by Champagne_Cricket on (August 21, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

Well said Stuart Broad. The Aussies definitely had a 'win at all cost' attitude and used to bully the other teams for many years. Now they're at the receiving end and crying. Its is not Broad who will cry Lehmann, it is you

Posted by satzzz on (August 21, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

Boof, can u pls go thru the belo article @ Cricinfo fa once..

'Not walking is not cheating'

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/329428.html

Cricinfo helps each and every cricket fan for getting all sorta data wrt cricketing histories.. Cheers team :)

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

What about Michael Clarke edging Kumble to Dravid standing at first slip and standing his ground in the Sydney Test in 2008

Posted by havalina on (August 21, 2013, 11:05 GMT)

So what about the fact that Warner edged to slip and then reviewed it - presumably he should have just walked off as well? I like Lehmann a lot but not in this case

Posted by Cheeki on (August 21, 2013, 11:01 GMT)

This Holier than thou attitude from the Aussies is ridiculous. They only need to remember Sydneygate in 2007-2008. Practce what you preach Mr Lehmann, Harbhajan and Ishant Sharma must be having the last laugh now

Posted by 5wombats on (August 21, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

Lehmann what are you thinking about! What a nasty little hissy fit.... It's vaguely amazing to hear an Aussie getting all moralistic, and it also shows the state of mind of Mr Lehmann. Mixed up. Mate - have a look at some of your own players before you go making pronouncements about others.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:57 GMT)

If only the Aussie batting line up had as much fight as their coach! Lehmann is using whatever fight a well beaten team has to try and salvage something from this series. It's a bit of a joke to be honest, go down fighting but at least show some dignity.

CA should be ashamed by these comments as Lehmann represents and speaks for them.

Lehmann needs to give his head a bit of a wobble and remember where this attitude of not walking originated from. Just because the table has turned and we can beat them at their own game, no need to chuck his dolly out the cot!

Posted by ozziemandias on (August 21, 2013, 10:54 GMT)

Why do we have umpires? Initially in the golden age (I wasn't there, but the term "Its just not cricket" must have come from somewhere) there was one reason, to adjudicate the uncertain decisions. I imagine that in this era a gentleman who knew he had touched the ball, walked, on the assurance of another gentleman that the ball he touched was caught cleanly. Those of us who have played the game know that the batsman knows if he has it the ball 9 times out of 10. So its really only for LBW decisions that a third party needed to make a determination whether the ball would have hit the stumps. Appropriate use of technology to ensure the correct decision is made can bring us back the golden age. As batsmen realise that the technology will reveal the the contact more may be inclined to walk resulting in fewer referrals for caught behind and relieving the pressure on umpires. No reason for Broad to walk within the current framework of the game but we can get there if we use the technology.

Posted by naveennayar on (August 21, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

I certainly agree with Broad quoting Australians have win at all costs mentality. I remember when Michael Clarke edged to 1st slip in 2008 sydney test & waited till the umpire took his time to give him out. Lehmann & his team should concentrate on thier cricket rather than thinking about such gimmicks against Broad.

Posted by smr0607 on (August 21, 2013, 10:51 GMT)

what goes around comes around...may be Lehman might have forgot Sydney 2007...that's in a way is the beginning of Australia's decline in test cricket...

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

Even though what Broad did was wrong but he is absolutely right about the Australian's attitude in the past. Lehmann should do something better than crying

Posted by Hoggy_Bear on (August 21, 2013, 10:46 GMT)

Strange that Lehmann doesn't mention that, in the very same test, Brad Haddin didn't walk before being given out, despite later admitting that he knew he'd hit it.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (August 21, 2013, 10:46 GMT)

This series thrashing just keeps getting better and better.

Posted by UK_Chap on (August 21, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

As far as I can recall, this whole business of a batsmen not walking was started by the aussies of old and they have continued the tradition up to the modern day. I also recall from recent memory in the 2011 world cup Ricky Ponting virtually lapping the the ball into the wicket keepers gloves in the game the aussies played against Pakistan and he shamlessly stood there as if nothing had happened. The decision was reviewed and he was sent off.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

Now it hurts?? Aussies... welcome to the other side...

Posted by Paz22 on (August 21, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

Aussies, are you serious?? Remember a guy called ANDREW SYMONDS?????

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:44 GMT)

Gilchrist, unlike Broad, walked if he was confident he was out. But this was not popular with the team. Lehmann's position is clearly a double standard. He is showing desperation, not calm cool determination to turn things around.

Lehmann is a good coach, a good guy and has the confidence of CA, team and the galaxy of former superstars. But this won't last forever. This kind of outburst will not help to retain that confidence which is in part built on a belief that Lehmann knows what he is doing.

Posted by Jayco on (August 21, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

I just listen to the comments. "Extraordinary attack"? Come on guys...bit of a beat up.

Posted by cloudmess on (August 21, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

Australia coaches/ex-coaches are fast becoming some of the best sledgers in the game today. There seems to be something new every day from Micky Arthur, and now Darren Lehmann's joining in - although Lehmann hasn't started sledging his own team yet. I've always been a Lehmann fan, but I'm not yet convinced he's an international coach - there is more to it than just being a good cricketer and good bloke. His comments on Broad are extremely ill-judged - this could well be his "we flippin' murdered 'em" moment.

Posted by Haleos on (August 21, 2013, 10:40 GMT)

Playing tough and cheating are two different things. Aussies are famous for being tough but Board is right they were not always the gentleman. Mind games is what they called, Cricket is not a chess to play mind games.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:40 GMT)

Pretty rich coming from a member of the Aussie team. Dont even think I have enough fingers to count the number of times ive seen Aust batsmen clearly nick a ball and stay at the crease - Ponting, Symonds, Langer to name but a few. Stupid behavior Darren.. why not focus on actually teaching this team how to bat!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:40 GMT)

wow a coach promoting bad sportsman ship. is that really the right job for him then? what he fails to see is that a side from clarke his team just isnt that good. they were on the downward after our black caps beat them in hobbart. would struggle to beat the black caps now I would suggest. as soon as watson pattenson and go loose the attitude the better. they have no right to have the attitude of the previous greats as they dont have the skill set. I feel so sorry for clarke he will be remembered as a great player but horrible captain

Posted by nareshgb1 on (August 21, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

So Lehmann is doing his best to neutralize one threat by using any means at his disposal. No doubt this is the aussie way that we are all blessed to witness - "hard but fair".

quite hilarious.

Posted by stueyh1 on (August 21, 2013, 10:35 GMT)

The hypocrisy of the Aussies is overwhelming. No Australian batsman apart from Gilchrist has ever walked in living memory. Why is it OK for them not to walk but oh so wrong for an Englishman. The reason is they are getting beaten, and badly, and in true Australian fashion they can dish it out but are slightly precious when it comes to getting it back.

Posted by JimDavis on (August 21, 2013, 10:35 GMT)

People, this has nothing to do with Broad not walking and everything to do with Boof wanting to get into Broad's head. It's just a sledge without all the swearing and carrying on.

Posted by uzair182 on (August 21, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

Bizzare comments from Lehmann... Ricky Ponting did not walk when he was given not out in the World Cup match 2011 between Australia and Pakistan and there are a lot of other examples of Australians not walking off. I am not saying that "not walking" is the right thing to do.. but if you are saying these kind of words for a reputable cricketer then you should also look at what your team players have been doing..

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

He has to find an edge from somewhere. Desperate stuff.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

DARREL LEHMANN is upset coz Stuart Broad bowled England to victory in the 2nd innings of the 4th test match. The aussies were in a winning postion before Broad started his spell. The timing of LEHMANN's comments makesthis preety obvious coz he cud have put out his allegation much earlier in the series.

And the purpose his comments is to try to upset the bowler by making him a target of ridicule by the media and public. Its highly irresponsible for a professional coach to provoke the aussie public........... "to have a go at him the whole summer" ... ????? This is absolutely poor, primitive and pathetic behaviour from the Aussie Coach. Well from the list of comments i can see the Lehmann is quite "getting a go at by everyone from all over the world" ... and rightly so. Best wishes and support to Stuart Broad and hope he performs well in Australia tooo ... and also hope the intelligent Aussie public will act unprovoked in a gentlemanly fashion.

Posted by GeoffreysMother on (August 21, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

Problem is Boof most of the crowd will be English. Australian's don't like supporting a losing team - they will all be off to the beach like the last Boxing Day Ashes test.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

Was expecting this cry out from Australian who does not know how to loose a match.... now seeing his team fail in the current ashes.... when Team Australia was winning everything that comes its way.... none talk and now since England is winning against them.... so comprehensively... this gentle man come out to talk.... hahaha

Posted by Geeva on (August 21, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

Didnt Mr Lehman get fined for bad comments towards the Sri Lankan players during and odi series in aus in last decaed..Was Lehmann a walker????

Posted by Dazako on (August 21, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

Even if he ends up with a career record similar to Glen McGrath, his reputation as a poor sport will always proceed him. He will always be remembered for not walking, time wasting at crucial points and maybe other unsportsmanlike misdemenors that he is still yet to commit.

Posted by ahilan9999 on (August 21, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

If a batsman gets a faint nick and he knows that he hits the ball, decides not to walk and umpire does not give him out. Happens many times. Only difference this case is that it is more obvious to others, however only thing that should matter is whether the batsman knew that he had hit the ball. Many bastmen do not walk, most Aussies dont either. So Broad is not a cheat.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (August 21, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

IMO what Broad did was a clear case of gamesmanship. But these comments coming from someone from Australia where batsmen are brought up to wait for the umpire to make a decision is laughable. That said I've never seen an Australian stand his ground for a such a blatant edge as in the case of Broad. The Aussies giving stick to Broad has clearly backfired given the way he cleaned them up in the last test and if nothing else Broad's reputation as a player to respect the traditions of the game does not preceed him which suggests they haven't done their research on the player. The most serious issue for me though is that these comments are coming from the coach of an international cricket team and the ICC should seriously consider whether the words are an incitement. Lastly, if Lehman turned some of this vitriol into positive energy for his team, they may not find themselves looking at a 4-0 defeat.

Posted by wibblewibble on (August 21, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

Anyone remember Clarke c Cook b Pieterson 80 in Adelaide? He didn't edge it to first slip, he hit it off the face and stood there saying "what?". If you keep your reviews in hand for bad mistakes, they could have made Broad look as foolish as Clarke did. If you use your reviews up on dubious lbws, I guess you just rage at everyone?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

This is an interesting stance to take. While the action of not walking does seem to defeat the spirit of sportsmanship, tue reputation of the Australians for not walking, and not operating in the spirit of sportsmanship is renowned. I recall the controversy a few years back when India toured Australia, and the agreement to trust the opposition fielders when caught out. If my memory serves me correctly, it was Australia who went back on that agreement first. How sad...

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

Winning the series is the job of the team, not the public. The public is there to be entertained, while both teams are the entertainers. The public pay money, both teams get money. That is the bottom line. If a team cannot win, it is not the spectators' job to make them win. And if the best plan a team has for a player is hurling abuse at him until he cries and goes home, then that team deserves to lose.

Posted by omairhr on (August 21, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

hahaa... these are the things the children in south asia would say during gully cricket confrontations.

Posted by mikeindex on (August 21, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

What hysterical, hypocritical rubbish from Lehmann. If you don't believe in walking you don't believe in walking. Nobody walks these days for catches to the keeper. Does the fact that the keeper deflects the ball to slip rather than catching it himself somehow turn it into a moral issue?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

how about Haddin not walked in same test.

Posted by Harlequin. on (August 21, 2013, 10:17 GMT)

I can't be bothered to read through all the comments to find out if someone has already posted this, but did Lehmann not see the incident?! Broad hit it to the keeper, who then deflected it to first slip - pretty crucial bit of info that is pretty careless of Lehmann to omit.

Posted by RobTay14 on (August 21, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

All you people are so stupid. He said he doesn't advocate walking, he doesn't think batsman should walk. But, when there is a situation like this where you are so ridiculously, obviously, blatantly out; then you should probably walk.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Lehmann says "..The biggest problem there is the poor umpire cops all the crap..." [for that decision]. However, the umpire is unable to see / hear a clear edge from 20 yards away and isn't deserving some flak?! Ridiculous.

Posted by GeoffreysMother on (August 21, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

Don't think Broad is the crying type , Boof; but if your summer goes like your winter there might be a few Aussies with tears in their eyes. Any last remaining vestiges of confidence will be destroyed by India in the one day series before England play in Australia. Darren might be a gibbering wreck before a ball is bowled in Australia.

Posted by pincash on (August 21, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

hehehehe.. What about haddin??? May be in the same match he also did not walk off..And the epic test match between australia and India.. When Ponting himself working as a Umpire.. Remember??

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:11 GMT)

Boo hoo Lehmann. Are Warwick Armstrong, WG Grace, Don Bradman, Ian Healy, Michael Clarke, and Andrew Symonds all cheats too then?

This smacks of desperation and being a bad loser. Guess what Lehmann? Your team is 3-0 down and is at a low ebb. Try sorting that out rather than pontificating about "sportsmanship".

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 10:07 GMT)

While some people enjoy the downfall of Australia merely because they themselves could never or may never achieved the heights of glories Australia has reached in the years gone by, it goes without saying that downfall of a cricketing giant is the downfall of cricket as a whole. The game is fast flipping out of its orbit and if corrective measures are not taken today, the destiny of this game is doomed.

Posted by sameer_m_siddiqui on (August 21, 2013, 10:06 GMT)

@Lehman -- What about Andrew Symonds getting thick edges and not walking when india toured australia few years back. Wasnt that blatant cheating also?? Those decisions robbed us a couple of tests down under.

Posted by PPL11 on (August 21, 2013, 10:03 GMT)

Oh well well well !! it taste bitter isn't it? now you know how it feels !!

Posted by LePom on (August 21, 2013, 10:03 GMT)

Nice one. Absolutely priceless. Not only has he inadvertently labelled almost every past Australian batsman as cheats but he has given us all the expectation that from now on all Aussie batsmen will walk if they think they might have nicked it. The old law of unintended consequences strikes again.

Anil Nair- I 100% disagree. There is no degree in walking on a nick. If you know you hit it then a fine edge is the same as skying it to long on. Either walk expect for all or none at all.

Posted by Montague_Withnail on (August 21, 2013, 10:00 GMT)

I still think the most amazing thing was Brad Haddin admitting he knew he had hit the ball for his dismissal at the end of the Trent Bridge test, and that therefore he had chosen to not walk.

Well done that man for bringing some honesty and integrity to this series, there is nothing wrong with not walking - it is time honoured, perfectly justified and pretty much invented by the Aussies.

Real shame that Lehmann has resorted to this, coach should be setting the tone for his players, instead it looks like it's the other way round here with Haddin the man setting the example.

Posted by drnaveed on (August 21, 2013, 10:00 GMT)

lehmann , do you think that one decision cost you that match and later on the whole series ??? .comeon man , be realistic, look into weaknesses of your side in every department of the game.i don't think ,a batsmen like steven smith deserves to be in the final 11 and that too as a middle order batsman ,but you have no other choice as you don't have quality batsmen in your reserves .

Posted by SunilRavi71 on (August 21, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

This is very funny from Boof..never expected this ...as their leading player and captain "Clarke" didnt walk against India in Infamous Sydney Test, when dravid took the clean catch...waited for umpire Decision...Please someone from press remind this to new coach...He may having short time memory

Posted by Chapelau on (August 21, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

Pathetic and small-minded of Lehmann. Interesting that he didn't say much immediately after the event - yet lays into Broad when he has just taken a hat full of wickets.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

I think Australians forgot the Sydney test when kumble was captaining and , Andrew symonds gave a catch to slip , and stood his ground . Australian Memory is very weak ....AFAIK that also changed the course of that match and not to forget the series too

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 21, 2013, 9:56 GMT)

Honestly would anyone have a conscience to continue to bat when that was clearly out. Umpires and Broad looked complete fools when it was replayed over and over. The ICC need to revamp the whole system. The batsman walking would help the umpire decision. The fact that it happened at a crucial stage of the first test was also annoying.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:56 GMT)

Now this is the only thing Australia can talk when they are other side of the winning post. Did they forgot the Sydney test against India in which Steve Bucknor made so many mistakes and Ricky. They dint even talk abt cheating at that time.

If one plr dint walkover, what happened to the 22 plrs in the team batted 4 times in the series now. Broad dint made centuries in the team nor contributed anything with the bat which had impact on the game which Eng won. Its his bowling which demolished Aus batting. Aus has a talent to come from any situation wherever they are playing against anyone. But they are not now. They cant put this on one plr who has won the matches with the ball and not the bat..

Posted by Mike_Tyson on (August 21, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Most probably a calculated tactic by Lehman to get into Broad's head. If it isn't and he is genuinely unhappy at Broad then I must say it is hilarious. He needs to get his house in order first, his team is getting a thrashing, he should pay more attention to them.

Posted by jackthelad on (August 21, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Utterly inappropriate and unacceptable for the Coach of one international team to urge supporters to attack an opposition player to the extent of destroying him as a player. Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the Broad case - which surely is ancient history by now - this rant simply will not do. Lehmann at the very least should be strictly censured for conduct liable to bring the game into disrepute - if not removed altogether from a position he clearly can't cope with.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Absolutely weird comment by Lehmann. May be he feared about Broad and co.... too silly

Posted by vsroc on (August 21, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Posted by Venkat Sraman on (August 21,2013) Such type of incident takes place in one form or other test matches favouring one side and in turn the other one is in trouble which makes them to express their unpleasantness.It is all in the game indeed!

Posted by shillingsworth on (August 21, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Lehmann doesn't advocate walking. He's supported by the majority of professional cricketers. Yet of the hundreds around the world who don't walk (including several of the players in his team during this series), only Broad is a cheat.

Posted by austentayshus on (August 21, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Boof why would you say that !!! I am aussie and big fan of Symonds .. He did the same thing against the Indians in 2007 test .. what you got to say about that ...

P.S. I am not supporting broad either

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:54 GMT)

has there been an incident when an English player been punished by the ICC ?

Posted by rajeevinespn on (August 21, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

How aussie can forget India tour of australlia in 2010, where number of decision goes out of favour for india. Symonds, Pointing got clear edges but not walk off the crease. Did lehman are aware of those incident ?? Certainly yes !!!

Posted by skollinator on (August 21, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

Boo hoo do the Aussies not remember the criticism leveled by them at Glichrist for walking in the 2003 WC against Sri Lanka? It is rather hypocritical for them to complain now when someone does not walk.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

Instead of talking whether it is right or wrong what broad had done Aussies are never, ever, no more eligible to talk about the behaviour. As a captain Clarke had not gone when he edged Ashwin to kohli. then symonds got out twice when india played aussie under kumble so he also had not gone twice and they went on to win the match when India was in total control. More important still I remember the One day tri series. Steve waugh got run out when amarnath threw the ball from 3rd man keeper more hit the stumps appealed and asked third umpire the very straight forward aussie umpire steve randall then only steve waugh reached the crease As a captain why steve waugh did not go very very worst behaviour by captain and umpire. May the australian crowd can say go to broad but aussie cannot win the ashes even in their home. Atleast they have to play very very hard to win atleast one test match to make 4-1. They should concentrate cricket and they are not able to win

Posted by srinideva on (August 21, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

Oh dear, did Lehman forgot the test match played in Sydney- 2008 #IND v AUS

Posted by Iyer_Brain on (August 21, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

Ah! Look who is talking! Someone should point out to this man and the Aussies that, people living in glass houses should not throw stones at others...

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:49 GMT)

The Lehmann of five tests back seems to be different from the current Lehmann. Change not for the better. Rant about Broad is surprising and shows that the pressure is taking its toll. Mr. Lehmann: The fault lies with the cricket laws and practices followed and not so much with how Broad behaved (not that it was something to be appreciated)- You are over-reacting.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (August 21, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

This is just blatant sour grapes and Lehmann trying to deflect attention away from the fact that, despite all the hype, Australia have done no better under him than they did under Mickey Arthur. There's no doubt that, if Australia were winning, this issue would have been forgotten already. I think that it's rather disgraceful that Lehmann is outright lying in an effort to mislead people into giving Broad a hard time because he knows his players aren't good enough to do it on their own. He knows for a fact that Broad's edge went to the keeper and not first slip so why is he claiming otherwise? Many people have mentioned the incident where Don Bradman edged the ball to second slip and stayed put when not given out. I wonder whether Lehmann would agree that Bradman was a cheat if quizzed on that. This business about not advocating walking but expecting Broad to walk is rubbish. If Broad cheated than how is it any less cheating not to walk just because people didn't notice you edged it?

Posted by Diddles1978 on (August 21, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

He didnt hit it to first slip, Haddin dropped it.

Are they going to sledge DRS when it goes against them?

Talk is cheap for a side that has lost 7 from the last 8, I hope Broady gets stuck into the Aussie's over the next 5 days.

Posted by Yevghenny on (August 21, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

notice how Boof doesn't mention Haddin dropping Bell the ball after, but I suppose it was much more crucial to get Broad, eh?

Posted by KASH-XI on (August 21, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

Look who is talking. Name any Aussie except Gilchrist who has walked?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

Oh get over yourself Boof. There was a time not too long ago when Aussies only walked if their cars broke down. Andrew Symonds famously claimed it was the umpire's job to give batsmen out and he is not going to do their job for them.

Why do you only occupy the moral high ground when you are on the receiving end?

Posted by Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on (August 21, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

well England has been whinging for years about bad sportsmanship so you cant get to upset when the shoes on the other foot.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

I personally think Broad did absolutely nothing wrong. I think the public crying from the Aussies is petty. Batsmen are given out wrongfully so often that if every now and then an umpire misses a dismissal then so be it. I still believe that Broad will be given out when not actually out a lot more during his career in comparison to not walking on this one occassion. It's the same in football, rugby and most other sports. The Aussies have played poor cricket, crying about this one incident so much is just sad.

Posted by ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (August 21, 2013, 9:42 GMT)

as an indian fan, i loved this very much. Thanku ashes

Posted by Essex_Man on (August 21, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

This is the most bizarre rant since Ponting at Trent Bridge in 2005. Yet more evidence of how badly rattled the Aussie camp are after copping a humiliating hiding all series.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

Easy. Walking when you know you're out is part of the spirit of the game. Obviously many players will never walk no matter what - it's their right, but they then have to face the consequences of their unsporting actions.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

@ Sam Carr et al: Broad a 'tough nut'? He has gained a reputation, recently discussed in the press, for petulance. He is not a well liked guy amongst foreign cricketers, and his possible implication in the KP scandal of last Summer, and comments he frequently makes in the press, tags him as a a bit immature - certainly not a 'tough nut'. Frankly, with his lack of consistency, I'd be concerned about making the sort of comments that seem to flow from him.

Posted by Pathiyal on (August 21, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

Broady is not a very good boy just as how the aussie boys are!!! :-)

Posted by NalinPerera on (August 21, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

Well done England first time in my life I can remember names of all English players. I cant remember any other test teams like this right now.

Posted by sharidas on (August 21, 2013, 9:35 GMT)

Its only that the"hand of god" has changed hands !!!!

Posted by TengaZool on (August 21, 2013, 9:34 GMT)

The thing about Stuart Broad is that he is one of the most improved players in the world - not just his bowling, but also his on-field behavior. In his early days he was down right obnoxious and I thought he was lucky to not have been penalised by umpires. He has now improved and I don't think a little bit of Aussie banter would affect him at all. The more likely outcome is that it might just fire him up.

Posted by Kapee on (August 21, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

Clear Sign of cracking under pressure, when you panic, under pressure, you end up doing silliest and craziest thing that you would never wanted to do in a calm mind.

Broad incident was done and dusted long back, first of all, it is too late to talk about this controversy, like trying smash an already dead snake.

Take it easy Aussies.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

Farcical that such a comment would come around a month later when the Australian players themselves have come out and defended Broad. I can only assume he thought he needed to plan for the Ashes series in Oz and try get under English skins;

"From my point of view I just hope the Australian public give it to him right from the word go for the whole summer and I hope he cries and he goes home,"

Rather immature words to say to an opposition sportsman no doubt? I think this might come back to have negative repercussions on Lehmann's tenure as a coach, whilst I'm sure the Australia team will defend his statement and get behind him, if the results continue to go badly and if the reporters start to get on Lehmann's back, I feel this may come as ammunition for the press against him

Posted by Webba84 on (August 21, 2013, 9:32 GMT)

Very obvious calculated attempt to make Broad less effective on the field. Youd have to be feeling really foolish to not spot that.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

you're going to resort to this Boof? SERIOUSLY?

Posted by Flash_hard27 on (August 21, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

Please let this be a poor journalism / untrue. Otherwise Lehman has made himself look a right fool. In the UK we have had two Australian players who were on the field at the time asked on live tv whether the issue bothered them and both said no.

Posted by Nickoshot on (August 21, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

I wouldn't boo Stuart Board, I think it will get the best from him and Aus have just collapsed to it at Durham

Not sure what Lehmann is trying to achieve here, he says he doesn't advocate walking but Board should have walked, then says he nicked it to first slip which he didn't he nicked it into the keepers gloves then it when to slip. He say that board was putting extra pressure on the umpires but what does these rant do? bring the whole issue up again for the poor umpire to be castigated again

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

Talking about this stuff on that particular radio station screams ashes promotion. Maybe ticket sales are down due to poor results form Aust. Either way Broad can take a leaf out of Warner's book and come over and revel in playing the villain.

Posted by ashangamage on (August 21, 2013, 9:28 GMT)

Cricket is No more Professional:(

Posted by dragnil on (August 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

Many of you are forgetting something important. I watched this with my 8 year old son and he asked me why it wasn't out. I told him because the umpire didn't say it was. I said sometimes there is doubt if it is a faint edge or a leg glance even if a batsman knows he nicked it and he doesn't have to walk unless given out. He said but the batsman really hit it and he knows he hit it and everyone knows.

In an age of footballers diving or feigning injury, cyclists and athletes on drugs, "celebrities" getting away with everything, and corruption everywhere, how do I explain to my son and his sisters that cheats never prosper and to always act morally?

I held cricket players to a higher standard than any sport. Sure there is match fixing but we don't usually blatantly see it but what Broad did was wrong. Michael Holding was spot on with his comparison to Ramdin.

As a father it is tough enough raising kids without role models damaging the morals I'm trying to instill.

Posted by SJCYorkshire on (August 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

Oh dear oh dear oh dear! Signs of mental disintegration showing already with Lehmann! Looks like he is becoming England's best weapon. Word to the wise Lehmann concentrate on your role as to date you are doing a pretty poor job. You were billed a a good solid bloke with good coaching ability, but are looking more like a clueless bitter has been, and are looking more foolish by the day. Should you really be inciting this sort of reaction toward a visiting player? The only villain this year has been Warner, and he has come back and taken the light hearted ribbed very well and good on him for that. That's the way it should be. Will Lehmann still have a job come the Adelaide test?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

Fascinating on many levels. I remember the days when Aussies were the 'hard-as-nails' competitors, and we Brits were dismissed as 'whingeing Poms', so it is very satisfying to see the roles reversed. More seriously, it is deeply disturbing to hear the Australian coach attempt to incite the public to 'get stuck into' an opposition player. Given that one of his team has already been suspended for punching an England player, what does Mr Lehmann want the Australian public to do? Finally I do think that both Mr Lehmann and the media (including Cricinfo) are continuing to deliberately overstate the original incident. As others have pointed out, Broad didn't edge the ball directly to slip - he edged to Haddin, then it was deflected twice, by Haddin's gloves & thigh, before being caught by Clarke. That important information seems to be ignored for the sake of simplifying the story.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

Thats pathetic from a coach's perspective, that test match is over & now u are heading towards the last test match. Just try to figure out causes of ur defeats and appropriate solution. Problem with australia is that they dont have batting order of test standards, putting faulkner at 7 is the best example of insane decision. Ok Faulkner is a good all rounder, then why u have watson smith in the team ? how many runs watson has made ? does he deserve to bat at no. 3 ? Only a miracle can save aus from here on...

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

Well we'll these are double standards from Aussies. Where was Lehman when Andrew Symonds also nicked it to second slip when the played ind in aus. At that time India just lost by a small margin because symonds went on to score a hundred. I would say Broad was within his rights to stand.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

Whatever Lehmann said about Broad is true. His act on that particular test amounts to cheating. I endorse what Micheal holding mentioned & ICC should have suspended Broad just like Ramdin during Champions trophy. Doesn't it show a bias towards nations??

Now it doesn't look good for an Aussie to make a comment like this. Only Adam Gilchrist can claim to make such a comment

Posted by harry414 on (August 21, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

Ethics are important, Broad should have left, leave comparisons here, just isolate that incident and talk about it.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

Hahahahhahahaa - and there comes the real aussie out in the coach !!!!! Well,Lehman should look back to those cases where Aus batsmen were involved and then say things .

Anyway , what they started is coming back to haunt them . I think "mental disintegration" has really taken hold on Aus team .

Posted by map27871 on (August 21, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

I'm sorry but it's not whingeing,it's a complete joke that a bloke doesn't walk when you clearly edge the ball that much.The fact that it was a pivotal point in the game makes it even worse.I can't understand how he could just stand there and pretend he didn't hit it.He may have been entitled to do so,but for mine it was not in the spirit of the game!

Posted by skilebow on (August 21, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

Firstly he nicked to Haddin who wasn't good enough to collect it and deflected it to slip and secondly I hope the Aussies do have a go. Broad is the type player who will play better in such circumstances. Expect a couple more 7fers coming his way. Plus it not like he'll be alone, he always have the Barmy Army out singing the Aussies to back him up!

Posted by Teachers on (August 21, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

Wow, for once I agree with all the comments above. As an Australian fan, I fail to understand how booing and sledging from the crowds in Australia will address whatever Broad is 'guilty' of. I thought cricket was a contest between 2 teams on the field of play, where any perceived injustices are addressed within the game itself. Lehmann takes the sport beyond the field of play, his philosophy could degenerate cricket to the point where it is determined by which crowd can sledge better! Whatever Micky Arthur's faults, he was not classless!!

Posted by CheryDayan on (August 21, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

This is Awesome !!! Micky Aurthor will be laughing after hearing what the new Aussie Coach has said.. :-) Lehmannnn ??? the Aussies are getting back what they had given !!!! Remember all the fake appeals, sledging, standing ground when out, etc etc.. when you were at the peak and you guys used to comment that test cricket should be brought down to 4 days rather than 5 !!!

Posted by John-Price on (August 21, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

So the Aussie's are calling Broad names as they go past him.

That would mean go past him as they return to the pavilion presumably.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

Excellent article, what Broad did was out of order and cost Australia the 1st Test, credit must go to Lehman here for being honest and calling it as it is :)

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

Absolute rubbish this!! Andrew Symonds did not walk when the whole world except Bucknor knew he had edged it in Sydney 2008. Also Michael Clarke edged Kumble to first slip and still waited for the decision. Clearly Lehmann is frustrated beyond his tolerance limits.

Posted by DexterDouglas on (August 21, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

If it hit Haddin's leg, then technically he nicked it to the keeper, not first slip, so Lehmann is a touch wrong to be upset if that's his reason. Whatever the merits of Broad's decision to stick his ground, Lehmann launching this now is pure gamesmanship.

Posted by davi7england on (August 21, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

Aussies are and have always been the greatest exponents of mental games. Broad is not exactly renowned for being the most composed of cricketers and regardless of whether Lehman tuly believes his own comments, it will surely rattle Broad in Australia. Do you honestly think Lehman cares about pundits in the public and their comments if he is able to unnerve Broad and gain even the slightest advantage in doing so.

Posted by oval77 on (August 21, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

Lordy - the cracks are showing so soon, Mr Lehman?! I noticed yesterday for the first time that talk was starting in the Australian press about whether Lehman was the right apointment, and less than 24hours later he comes out with this extraordinary emotional outburst? Toughen up man!

Posted by aahahaa on (August 21, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

well done boof. 4-0 surely now.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

I think Stuart will feel flattered. In any case, since when have the Aussies done anything other than try to send England players home crying? Everyone knows you've always had to take 14 or 15 wickets per innings to get the Aussies out down under, besides taking all sorts of insults at the boundary.

Posted by Chris_Howard on (August 21, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

@Sam Korn. I'm Aussie and 100% agree.

It's annoyed and embarrassed me how much we've carried on about that incident and blown it way out of proportion.

You'd think he edged it to gully the way they carry on. As you point out, it was slight edge to the keeper which was deflected to slip.

Also, Broad says he thought he'd hit it but wasn't certain, and said even the Aussies weren't certain - Agar asked him.

There's a stark difference between thinking you've hit the ball and being certain.

Why would you walk if you are not 100% certain you've hit the ball? When you are uncertain, then it's the umpire's job.

Players walk ALL the time when they are certain. But 99% of those times are catches forward of the wicket.

The only time players don't walk is edges to the keeper (as was Broad's) and LBW.

We were freaking lucky to even be in that Test after the atrocious one Trott copped, and Agar getting way lucky with that stumping.

We have no cause to sook.

Again, well said.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

Well, in my opinion no Aussie has the right to call Broad a cheater. As far as I can remember, probably with the exception of Gilchrist, no Aussie was an impulsive walker.

Lehmann's current captain Clarke has a history of standing his ground and waiting for umpire's signal, for over 2 seconds, when he edged to Rahul Dravid at first slip (not off the keeper's pad or anything, straight off the bat to the fielder's hands). His former teammates Symonds and Ponting have stood their ground many a times edging to keeper, all in the same (in)famous series against India.

Where was Mr Lehmann hiding then? How is it that when they do, that too in crucial junctures, they are respecting the umpire's decision and when others do the same it is "cheating".

Its time Lehmann regains his cool and concentrates on improving his team's performance rather than provoking the already not-so-friendly Aussie crowd.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

Lehmann's feeling the pressure - a huge sign that the honeymoon is over.

Posted by Damo_s on (August 21, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

"Whinging poms" is something us brits have had to take from the aussies for years. Im loving the role reversal. Dare is say it...whinging aussies!

Posted by amlankj on (August 21, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

Well Darren, let's not dwell too much about past. I am an Indian and I do not have too many good memories about sportsman spirit on cricket field. But I personally feel that the Broad incident has changed the outcome of the entire Ashes series of this year which I expected would be much more close and competitive.

Posted by russell1967 on (August 21, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Aussies are very bad losers....and winners.

If the upcoming series is anything like the last one down under, there won't be any Aussies in the crowd to barrack him.

Lehmann is doing his bit to see to this with the bizarre selections. Do they put the names of the touring party in a hat and pick them out without looking? How else can you explain Watson still being in the team?

I'm going to predict the future.... Watson out LBW in one of the two innings in this test after making a bright 30 comprised mostly of boundaries

Posted by Tumbarumbar on (August 21, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

Why, when there is a comment about walking, do people always say, 'Aussies never walk anyway' as if batsmen from every other country have always walked. Pull the other one moonbeam. Some batsmam in some circumstances have walked, most often when they have a score or the edge is obvious but there have been very few Gilchrists. Some one tried to tell me Gavaskar was a walker the other day. Well he may have walked up the footpath but not otherwise. Likewise Lara was known to walk but not before he'd passed forty. The thing with Broad is that he should accept his good luck, acknowledge he almost hit the cover off the ball and at least have the decency to be a bit sheepish.

Posted by Rising_Edge1234 on (August 21, 2013, 9:14 GMT)

Let the rules change to say "NO WALKING" allowed for anyone. Let the umpires make the final decision with help from the various aid equipment.

Posted by Jock182 on (August 21, 2013, 9:14 GMT)

Good on you Boof, these comments were designed to ruffle a few feathers and unsettle people, which clearly they have done. Aussies to win the fifth test and to take back the ashes on home soil next year!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:12 GMT)

A staggering and immature outburst. This says everything you need to know about the state of Australian cricket at the moment. Broad is not the first to stand his ground on having actually hit the ball and he won't be the last either. Moreover there have been plenty of Australians that have done the same and will do in the future. Lehmann would do well to focus on some of the ludicrous selection decisions that there have been in this series rather than on Broad and England. Why was Agar picked ahead of Lyon? Why has Starc been in and out of the side? Why was Hughes dropped? Where should Shane Watson bat - 1,6 or 3? Why was Jackson Bird good enough for Test cricket at Durham but not now, so dropped after 1 game? As coach he is accountable but instead he is trying to divert attention away from his own shortcomings by talking about something that is outside of his control. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

Posted by dalboy12 on (August 21, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

This is one of two things I reckon. Firstly, its either the new coach is beginning to crack under the pressure. In which case he might be the one crying and leaving soon. Or secondly, this is a calculated Aussie attempt to attack one of England's key players before the repeat series in Aussie. Must agree with comments above that you can't say someone's a cheat for not walking on a nick to the keeper, but is a cheat, if they don't walk when someone else catches it. And what about all the keepers, bowlers and slips that appeal when they know the batsman didn't hit it ---- is that cheating?

Posted by pom_don on (August 21, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Having read this again Lehman's statement makes him a MUCH WORSE CHEAT ' I don't advocate walking but when you hit it to first slip it's pretty hard' I take it by that he means if no one saw a feather but you new you had hit it it's OK not to walk.....like Braddin tried on the last ball that's OK, double standards or what, trying to take the heat off himself & a bunch of under performers I think.

Posted by PanGlupek on (August 21, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Hmmm, think Buff might get a slap on the wrists for that little rant.

Interesting that he says the players haven't forgotten about it, when I don't think a single Aus player has complained about it publicly, and some (Haddin, Clarke) have even defended Broad's actions and said there's no sour grapes there (see http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/651151.html).

Almost certainly a mind-game, or just simply pressure getting to him.

Careful not to use the "Whinging poms" line while you're in charge, Darren, you'll look like a hypocrite if you do now...

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

Interesting given Clarke's original comments over this, that he didn't hold any grudges. Lehmann is spot on that Broad made the umpire look stupid, but coming from an Australian this outburst is really quite funny.

Posted by Sachu2k6 on (August 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

Is it? What did your current captain do in the controversial Sydney test with India? As far as i did, he pretty much did the same thing. Edged to slip and stood the ground. Luckily the umpire didn't make a mistake in this instance and was duly gave it out.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

I am a big fan of "walking when you nicked it". BUT... this sounds more like trying to get into Broad's head before the last test. After all, wasn't it Broad who destroyed the Aussies with the ball a week or so ago? And edging to first slip? Really? It came off the keeper's leg, for crying out loud! This is just another playground bullying tactic from an old school Aussie that played during a time when bullying tactics still worked on the field. Times have changed Lehman. Now those who are bullied rips through your top order for revenge.

Posted by TheBeare on (August 21, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

Really weak from Lehmann. Not a typical Ozzie response - surprised he is whinging when his back is against the wall. He told Triple M radio ..."Broad's been copping it all series... I expect it will continue for a long time yet" - Broad bowled his best ever test figures to dismantle in Durham...so let's hope the Ozzie berating continues!

Posted by Stumay on (August 21, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

What ridiculous comments. Shouldn't he be spending more time actually coaching his team and dealing with their embarrassingly long list of inadequacies? Besides that, the Australians won't be in the grounds long enough to boo Broad. They all go home once England are on top, so it'll just be England fans left by about ten past eleven each day.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

Clarke in Sydney 2008 and Haddin at Lord's in this series did not walk despite knowing they edged it. Should England whine like this if Hot spot somehow missed it and Australia went on to win the test?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

Hilarious!!! Mr. Lehman, the Aussie public want their team to win the test. Please do not employ such cheap tactics to direct their attention towards silly issues. What if the Englishmen do the same to Brad haddin?!! Will you tolerate that??

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

Doest Lehman have anything else to talk about? this is showing his inexperience as a coach at international level. By gone is by gone, forget it and get on with the final test.

Posted by dave_roome on (August 21, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

Surely Lehmann's request for the Aussie fans to "give it to Broad" relies heavily on there being any Aussie fans actually in the grounds. Check out the fall in attendances from day3 onwards last time round - especially Melbourne & Sydney!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

Aussies are not at all clean in this regard.They claimed a catch of a bumped ball during Ganguly led indian teams australia visit and got a favourable verdict which led to a most undeserving win for them

Posted by Paddy1234 on (August 21, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

Really struggle with this one, at what point is it legitimate to walk or not to, ie what edge thickness is acceptable. I also think this debate is biased against batsmen, what about all those bowlers who appeal for caught behinds or lbw when they know it is not out why isn't that "cheating".

I reckon this will fire Broad up for this test!

Posted by Shaggy076 on (August 21, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

I would be booing Broad anyway and its got nothing to do with not walking. Watching some international cricket not involving Australia I have twice seen him throw the ball at the batsman while standing in the crease. To me that is the ultimate in bad sportsmanship.

Posted by JRR562004 on (August 21, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

School ground antics, Lehmann should grow up and let the play be decided on the field by the umpires.

Posted by Vleis on (August 21, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

Tough one to assess this walking business. Firstly, most test players do not walk. Secondly, some that walk are no better than the ones that don't - e.g. Gilchrist walked, but nevertheless appealed for lbw decisions that were clearly not out and let's not forget all his sledging, so he was no saint either. Perhaps some players walk to get a reputation as 'walkers', so umpires won't give them out if they don't walk. Finally, you get the odd player, like Amla, that walks and does not sledge ...but he is one in a hundred. Therefore, as much as I do not like Broad, I must conclude that Lehmann is incorrect in this instance.

Posted by zxaar on (August 21, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

someone should send him a copy of that Sydney test.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

Lets say Australian crowd does it.. That will be enough to win you the Ashes back.. Get your things right and focus on cricket if you want Ashes back... Booing Broad or KP wont help much. You need to play good cricket for 4-5 days if you are to win, playing good for an inning or session or day is not enough. And we are talking about a possible 25 days of solid test cricket.

Posted by TDPenny on (August 21, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

Wait, didn't Haddin admit that he didn't walk, at a fair more crucial stage of the match? I guess Lehmann's been calling Haddin dirty words every time he walks past too.

Posted by Lach-Ferragh on (August 21, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

The Australian cricket team - both its current- and ex-members - are in no moral position to call anyone a cheat or start calling for better sportsmanship. Other than Gilchrist, none of their players have ever walked. Let's not forget that this is the team that took sledging to a new level of depravity. For them to accuse Broad of being a cheat is like the lion asking the chicken why its complaining for after biting its leg off.

Posted by Devmanus on (August 21, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

This is definately not right, Mr. Coach. If you look at the way you welcome England or Indian or S. African teams and the way you treat them on field, the way you claim wickets, the way you pressurise Umpires ohh my god, if such are the criterias to defend your defeat then your entire team should not put a foot on cricket ground. get real, accept the decisions you have no right to compain now, this series is played using DRS after all. and you know what, one or two bad dicision can not change the outcome of ashes or any test series.

Posted by sunglassesron on (August 21, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

What a hilarious meltdown. Won't bother Broad a jot if the aussies try to wind him up, will spur him on. He has unfinished business out there after last time out. Only weak characters like Mitchell Johnson fold just because of a few humorous crowd chants.

Posted by germandon on (August 21, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

Oh dear Darren, pressure beginning to tell mate? Considering the only time Aussies walk is when they run out of petrol, it really is the pot calling the kettle black! Also, getting the crowds to barrack Broad may actually backfire, causing him to be all the more determined to succeed during the next series.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:03 GMT)

Australians never walk, and a number of their players have said publicly that they wouldn't have walked either, and that they don't have a problem with it. Lehmann is getting desperate, and cracking under the pressure. I thought Australians despise whingers?

Posted by Gareth_Bain on (August 21, 2013, 9:03 GMT)

Haha. Seems to be working well, as Broad's bowling has been so ineffectual as a result of Australia's jibes... Not.

Posted by concerned_cricketer on (August 21, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

I am not a great fan of Broad's work ethics but Lehmann should concentrate on getting the Aussie batsmen to work harder in the nets and let their cricket do the talking. There's nothing wrong in feeling furious about it but one incident cannot decide a whole series - if it can then this is not a proper cricket team.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

Broad is a tougher nut than that, I wouldn't be choosing him to single out for some rough treatment in Aus because you might well find that backfires. I think it's more telling that this comes out the morning after another unnecessary change to the batting order. I would not be 100% that Boof will even be around by the time we begin the series down under.

Posted by AnoopMukundan on (August 21, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

LOL it's all tactics ... the old fashioned sledging is back in the Aussie camp!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

oh... did Lehmann forget the great Sidney test against India?? there were not just one occasion where Australian team members could have walked (Symonds, Clarke, Ponting ... .list goes on)... "ONLY ONE TEAM PLAYED IN THE SPIRITS OF THE GAME" was the response from our jumbo I hope he cleans his house first before commenting on others.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

That's part of game, even umpires get it wrong, does it mean they r cheating.....it shows the frustration in Australian camp...rather than firing crackers at broad, they should concentrate on the game.

Posted by BDazz on (August 21, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

I wouldn't normally bother commenting, but these comments from Lehmann are out of whack.. He is probably trying to play some psychological warfare and the story is probably also taken out of context, but even so, to hear an Australian cricket person of any kind moan about the sportsmanship of the other team is just laughable. Especially over the issue of walking or not when you knick one to the Keeper.. Everyone is entitled to stand his ground and let the umpire make the decision, and if you are stupid enough to have wasted all your reviews, so be it..

Posted by Somerset-Richard on (August 21, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

I think Boof has finally lost it. He can mutter all he likes on the way back to Australia about his 4-0 defeat, it's a long flight so there's plenty of mutter time!

Posted by whatawicket on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

not sure why hes come out with this. Australia are the worst country in world cricket when it come to walking. no more than the andrew symons affair during indian tour a decade or so ago were he hit it directly at the fielder and stood. DL for someone who played at the highest level its a bit hard to understand. does the coach use this to direct the blame from happenings on his watch seems so. now an Aussie crowd booing a pom now that would be a rarity, seems the barmy army will have to do overtime to quell the noise

Posted by absk on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

I feel Broad's fine spell to dismiss Oz and win Ashes for England in the last match is too much to swallow for Lehman. Else why would he rake up this issue before the 5th test?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

Is he any worse than Michael Clarke who blatantly hit it onto his hip and was caught at short leg in the last home series for Australia? That was equally as blatant

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

What Lehmann needs to remember is that it was the australians that started the Whole "Wait for the umpire to raise his finger".

He cant have it both ways, I notice he hasnt critisised Haddin and others in this current team that new they'd hit the ball but didnt walk because the umpire didnt give it.

He also needs to remember that Clarke has refused to walk on a number of occasions, most notably at Adelaide 2010, and was only given because england used a review to overturn the decision.

Posted by pragmatist on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

Hilarious. Pretty unprofessional. You would think he would be more worried about his batsmen's refusal to bat rather than Broad's refusal to walk. And to still be harping on about it now? Come on Australia, get over it and play proper cricket

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

The fuse for the 5th Test has, officially, been lit.

I must admit i didn't think it would take Lehmann just 4 games to crack, but my advise to Mr Lehmann is Stuart Broad has the barmy army as his soldiers.

Posted by disco_bob on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

If Boof really thought dismissing Broad would have turned the Ashes then he should be directing his anger towards the wasted DRS reviews. Also leaving Lyon out was a bit of a tactical blunder. With this attitude come the return series and England will be all over us like a hot flannel.

Posted by Ian_SA on (August 21, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

Yep, can't even get his facts straight, as alluded to be Sam Korn's comment. He's also a hypocrite. Australia is unfortunately a mediocre team right now, as evidenced by the idea that James Faulkner will add a "hard edge" and that his first class batting average of 30 will be helpful. The guys in the top order that are currently failing to score runs right now have better first class batting averages than that anyway. Mickey Arthur may not have been the right guy, but Australia need far far better than Lehmann - a guy from the past generation (not by any means a "great" himself by the way) with an attitude of "I'm a good bloke.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

I dont understand why Broad's not walking is made such a huge cry as if the earth is going to end by tomorrow. You say Cricket is a team's game. You take every decision for your team. But how do you expect a player to walk/not walk on his own when you have to take every decision for your team. From England's point of view , Broad's wicket was more important as it might have changed the result of the match had he walked. Broad didnt walk for his team's sake. I dont find that wrong. One has to admit that Broad's edge is not more thicker than Symond's in sydney 08 . What do you say about Michael Clarke's appeal for catch off Ganguly's when he has clearly grounded ?

Posted by harmske on (August 21, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

surely this is some sort of a wind-up? no way did lehmann say those things. because if he did it is so hypocritical and a clear cut case of the sourest grapes ever seen.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

stuard broad set the tone for all batsmen in this series brad haddin was just following the tone set

Posted by Hammond on (August 21, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

Whether you hit it to first slip or just get a tiny glove it to the keeper, it is up to the umpire to give you out. So you either walk every time or don't walk at all. Lehmann is merely confirming that he is a raging hypocrite. I can not remember him walking in a test match. Not once.

Posted by Stevros3 on (August 21, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

Just like your skipper Clarke who walked in the last ashes series when he middled it to short leg... Oh wait he didn't walk wasn't given out, just England hadn't wasted their reviews.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

Apart from the fact that to be accused of cheating for not walking by an Australian Test cricketer delves into untapped seams of irony, the point this brings out is that so called 'cheating' for not walking is a matter of degree. Edge the ball five degrees to the wicketkeeper and waiting for umpire's decisions is perfectly fine. Or you can edge the ball 90 degrees to short leg and not walking is fine. But edge the ball 15 degrees to first slip and if you don't walk you are a 'cheat' - or rather a 'blatant cheat'. In fact Broad did not edge to first slip, he edged to the wicketkeeper Haddin and first slip caught the rebound off Haddin's gloves. If Haddin had managed to hold on to the catch and Broad had stood his ground, there would be no controversy because not walking when you edge to the keeper is OK - or maybe it just isn't 'blatant cheating', just a lesser form of cheating that is acceptable to Darren Lehmann.

Posted by lararichards on (August 21, 2013, 8:53 GMT)

Oh the irony. An Australian complaining about an opponent not walking? An Australian taking the moral high ground?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:53 GMT)

Unprofessional comments from a man charged with taming a bunch of unprofessional cricketers like Warner; what message does that send out? I'd hope CA gets stuck into Lehmann for this but fear they'll back their nepotism to the hilt - has he forgotten that the "hit it to first slip" was actuallt a nick to the keeper that took a massive deflection to first slip. Would he be saying the same if the catch had been taken by Haddin and turned down? Disappointing because I thought Lehmann was a bit better than this......... He's made a decent rod for his own back here.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

Ha Ha Lehmann is such a sore loser. The fact Haddin didn't walk in the same game, at a more critical juncture (being the last wicket and only a handful of runs from winning...) which he doesn't seem to mention here.... Sour grapes :)

Posted by Iqbal_Hasan on (August 21, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

I suggest that the Australians keep on at Broad. Maybe he'll get so hacked off with them that he'll bowl another devastating spell of 6-very few.

Before Lehmann has a go at Broad... he ought to have reminded himself about how often Australians walk (hardly ever). It is not cheating to allow the umpires (however incompetent) to do the jobs for which they are paid. Perhaps Lehmann should ask the Australian public to give Messrs Hill, Dharmasena and Erasmus stick from the outset instead. It was their errors that caused the problem.

Posted by arun_spurred on (August 21, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

Absolutely agree with Lehmann here. Such players disgrace the game. However, the problem lies in the selective application of the "Spirit of cricket". When the Aussies did it(Indians can't forget Sydney '08, can they?), such clamour wasn't heard from Lehmann, was it?

Posted by colc on (August 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Lehman's just gone through the floor in my estimation. Talk about pot calling kettle black...............Aussies have [apart from Gilchrist] always been epic "non walkers".

Posted by Biggus on (August 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Silly comment really. Our guys (and almost everybody else) never walk.

Posted by Heisenburg on (August 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Totally agree, also his time wasting made me angry too, the fans watch this game to watch cricket, not to watch him tie his shoes, Broad and Cook are the worst cricketers in the game currently.

Posted by bhargavrkk on (August 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

If Broad's decision to not walk is ridiculous then what about the 2007/08 Sydney Test. The same Austraila team has won by playing very fair by standing in the crease when the player is edged the ball to the keeper.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Agreed. Broad has got off very lightly for the incident. Bringing the game into disrepute springs to mind. Also not playing in the spirit of the game.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Wasn't it from the SAME TEST that Brad Haddin nicked it to the keeper and didn't walk??? Lehmann, get off your high horse and smell the roses mate. The Aussies are getting hammered, and they will most likely face more of the same in Aus....

As per normal, someone from the Aussie team / media trying to say something to unsettle the opposing team before a tour!!!!

Concentrate on the 5th test, before you start worrying about the next series!

Posted by arifmayur on (August 21, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

Nowadays umpires have extra burden and they are more cautious not to make any mistake with respect to DRS system. In my opinion a batsman knows very well that he nicked or not and has to go by himself off the field rather to pretend as he hasnt got any nick. Its all about the true spirit of game and one must leave the field whatever be the decision from the umpire.

Posted by king78787 on (August 21, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

Lehmann does have a point. If it was a very fine nick then their is no problem with him not walking but he practically middled that and it was then caught at slip. I think Broad is going to become what Mitch Johnson is to the Barmy Army.

Posted by Murnau on (August 21, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

It's a fair point that players cheating makes things difficult for the umpires. Lehmann is in a fantastic position to do something about that, as the coach of a prominent national team.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

So assume he also "gives it" to his captain for middling a ball to short leg at the Adelaide oval in 2010 and not walking?

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

This is nothing but frustrated Coach.... who again will be under scanner once they loose this test match also.... cricket Australia may appoint pointing for the next series.... this is just a ridiculous statement .... it is basically gully cricket comment.... how can just one wicket change the face of the series.... u had chance in other 2 test match also....instead of blaming just give your best 11 shot for more than 1 test......lehmannnn grow up

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

So, what's Lehmann saying here?

1) "I don't advocate walking." I.e. Don't give yourself out 2) unless it's "blatant". Then you should give yourself out. 3) "blatant" means hitting it to first slip, apparently. An obvious edge going to the keeper wouldn't count, then? 4) so if it is obvious you've hit it you should walk. Or maybe you should ask around first, figure out how blatant it was, then decide? 5) but hold the phone. Lehmann doesn't advocate walking. 6) what?

In conclusion: whinging about Broad not walking after an admittedly blatant edge is fine. But only if you don't openly say that you "don't advocate walking".

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

funny how watson never walks, even when he's out lbw he still reviews it, and clarke has edged it to 1st slip twice and not walked ( vs India 2008)

Posted by Mufaddal786 on (August 21, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

'Australia getting taste of their own Medicine'!!!!! Mr.Lehmann forgot what Andrew Symonds did in Sydney Test against India or he forgot how Ponting admitted that catch taken by Clarke is clean which was not to dismiss Ganguly.

Posted by trav29 on (August 21, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

completely irresponsible for a national coach to be talking about an opposition player in these terms regardless of what his personal feelings may actually be

makes himself look bitter and a blatant attempt to deflect attention away from the far more serious problems his own team has

and btw if he is going to do something like this he could at least be accurate , broad didn't hit it to first slip, it was edged to the keeper who missed the ctach and it deflected off the keeper to first slip , pity is that the more people keep repeating the lie the more trolls believe it

Posted by kingkarthik on (August 21, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

Dear Darren, finally the frustration of being made to look like novices in cricket and being unable to win a match so far has appeared to have gotten to you. We know that this outburst has less to do with Broad not walking in the first match and more to do with the humilation he created in the 4th match. Agreed the poor umpire cops a lot of crap. But honestly, if he could not see an edge to first slip, then deserves to cop a lot of crap. Well obviously when you team is not doing well, we are going to be asking the Australian public to humilate him..... Lets see who goes running home crying. Broad or Clarke. By the way, you have been a crap coach in the IPL. Do not recall you winning anything.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

Boy, that escalated quickly

Posted by kms.javid on (August 21, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

Australia tasting their own medicine. Remember what Clarke did to the Indians when they toured Australia. :) !!!!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

Mr. Lehmann...u Australians are poor takers...if u have the cheese to give to visiting teams in Australia, u should have the courage to take it on overseas tours...glad that u r getting it back from England who are the same as u and not any other Nation...

Posted by corzaNZ on (August 21, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

Get over it Lehmann, look at the score its 3 nil. get your batting sorted instead of harping on about this. and he didnt hit it to first slip it deflected off Haddins gloves to first slip

Posted by Murnau on (August 21, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

A coach can't encourage fans to abuse a player! This is madness. Why didn't someone try and stop him from saying this? I'd be surprised if Lehmann is still coach come the winter series. A player punching the opposition s bad enough, but encouraging fans to vilify an opposition player is outrageous.

Posted by RichardG on (August 21, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

Poor from Lehmann, and says more about him than and the pressure he's under than anything it does about Broad. For a start, Broad didn't edge it to slip, he edged it to Haddin's gloves, and it then went to slip. Also, the umpires had already made a couple of howlers by that point: Agar's stumping and Trott's lbw. Finally, the Aussies have admitted in this series that they've edged the ball and not walked.

This is pure hypocrisy from Lehmann, and irresponsible too. What if an Aussie fan takes his plea too seriously and physically 'gets stuck into him'. Lehmann's role would surely be untenable then. A classless act from a man I had always admired.

Posted by Hatter_Mad on (August 21, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

Not very clever from Lehmann, especially so when you consider that past and present Australian players were unaminous in saying that Broad did nothing wrong in not walking. Perhaps Lehmann is trying to deflect attention from his own team's inability to compete in this series.

As for the crowd "getting stuck into Broad" - well the English fans give him enough stick and it doesn't seem to phase him.

Posted by MonotremeInEurope on (August 21, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

I would suggest that the Barmy Army will outnumber the Australian fans in vocal support for their respective teams, even in Australia.

Posted by Charlie101 on (August 21, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

Aussie word games as usual . Suggest Lehman has a look at himself and stops signaling when he wants Clarke to review !!!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:41 GMT)

Haddin admitted he edged it in the first test and waited for the decision. Why is that any different? You're either out or not, there's no inbetween, so surely it should apply to "cheating"?

Posted by Kitschiguy on (August 21, 2013, 8:41 GMT)

The constant defeats are really starting to get to the Australians - they need to find a way to win, perhaps this is it. I've just been watching my Ashes DVD from 2011 and watching all the other's not walking, most notably Clarke and Hussey. This sounds like a proper rant from a real bad loser.

Posted by vikpai on (August 21, 2013, 8:40 GMT)

Child please!! Really Australians crying about Stuart Broad not walking?? How many times has Michael Clark nicked the ball to slips or short leg and stood his ground? Australians never walk (except Adam Gilchrist) so they are in no position to judge anyone. Sad but what goes around comes around!.

Posted by iantevans on (August 21, 2013, 8:40 GMT)

Pressure getting to Lehmann......the man who always walked in his career!!!! By the way Darren he didn't hit it to first slip. He hit it to your gloveman who wasn't good enough to hold the catch.

Sour grapes....never thought i'd hear it from a tough nut Aussie!!!!

Posted by Westmorlandia on (August 21, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Lehmann's making absolutely no sense. So if you get a big edge and don't walk that's cheating, but if you get a thin edge and don't walk that's fine? And he didn't edge it to first slip anyway - he edged it into Haddin's gloves, and it bounced off Haddin to slip. So he needs to go and check the replays as well.

See you at the Oval today Darren!

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (August 21, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Looks very childish from Lehman. Did not expect this from him. I am not sure if he was responding to a particular question from some one. But he says "I don't advocate walking but when you hit it to first slip it's pretty hard"

This is not worse than Clarke's edge to first slip in second innings in that Sydney 2007 match. Worse is you have DRS and gambled it on few lbws.

Why is he crying over spilt milk now? Why didn't his batsmen answer Broad with their bat in the fourth test (esp when they were favorites to win).

Better he concentrate on improving his players skills (particularly batsmen).

Posted by cleanprophet on (August 21, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Firstly, the Australian public don't need any encouragement to give Broad stick. They've been doing it for years (much good it's done them). But, I find the moralising about walking perverse.

Posted by itsjustagameboys on (August 21, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

Wow Boof... Throwing your toys out of the cot and whining about the past isn't really helping your cause today, is it? What's the difference between someone feathering it and not walking despite knowing and someone getting a thicker edge. Either you sign up to "leave it to the umpire" or you don't, but you can't be selective about which players are entitled to stand and which are not. This really illustrates some very confused and ill-judged thinking from the man who is supposedly leading Australia's recovery.

Posted by Mans77 on (August 21, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

Tell me, Mr Lehmann, why is Broad any more a cheat than, say, Brad Haddin, who stood his ground for the last ball of that test, but later admitted having hit it. The thickness of the edge, or where it is eventually caught, is irrelevant!

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

lol awesome.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

Lehmann must be carful in his comments because Australians are not good sportsmen when it comes to loosing or accepting the inevitable in regard to cricket matches. Therefore Lehmann must first clean his house before he has a go at anther person's house. This is my candid view of him. This does not make Broad right because he did the wrong thing totally, but as I had stated above, Lehmann should be carful in his comments because Australians are not good sportsmen at present and in the past from a historical perspective or position.

Posted by Shams on (August 21, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

Australians have been the biggest proponents of not walking and letting the umpire do his job. Though Broad didn't do the right thing, it is funny to hear Lehmann rant about that incident.

Posted by nlight on (August 21, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

Pathetic whingeing. What about all the Aussies who didn't walk, including the most experienced members of his squad : Clarke & Haddin. I think we'll find that it's Lehmann, rather than Broad who ends up shedding most tears.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

I know it isn't fashionable to say this, but the fact is that Broad *didn't* edge the ball straight to first slip. He edged it slightly, then it took a much bigger deflection off Haddin's gloves. I really struggle to see how this is an outrageous act of cheating.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

It's not cheating because no where in the rules does it state that he has to or even should walk. Lehman should watch what he says, really poor form. Personally I find walking distasteful because it is the umpires job to give someone out and if he chooses not to or believes it wasn't out and you walk you have just thrown your wicket away.

Posted by wibblewibble on (August 21, 2013, 8:35 GMT)

Only person crying and going home this week is Lehmann.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2013, 8:34 GMT)

He's unlikely to cry and go home. He might get annoyed and bowl you out for 80 though.

Posted by Jimmy_Jim on (August 21, 2013, 8:34 GMT)

Just choose certain parts of the interview and make it look like all he did was be mean to Stuart Broad?

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