India in South Africa 2013-14

'Would be nice if Lorgat apologises' - Dalmiya

Amol Karhadkar

September 4, 2013

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Haroon Lorgat at a press conference after Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif were found guilty in London, Dubai, November 1, 2011
Haroon Lorgat's appointment as the CSA chief executive hasn't gone down well with the BCCI © Getty Images
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More than six weeks after Cricket South Africa chief executive Haroon Lorgat offered to "apologise" to anyone who he had offended in the BCCI, Jagmohan Dalmiya, the interim BCCI chief, has welcomed Lorgat's offer.

"Lorgat is a nice gentleman but it would be nice of him if he apologises," Dalmiya said in Kolkata, when asked about his reaction to Lorgat's offer that was made immediately after he was appointed the CSA chief executive despite the BCCI raising its objections.

While this may appear as softening of the BCCI's stand with Lorgat, the deadlock over the BCCI going to trim what was till a few days ago a tour of three Tests, seven ODIs and two Twenty20s, prevailed for another day.

While Dalmiya reiterated what the BCCI president N Srinivasan had said three days ago that "the tour is on", there was no formal exchange between representatives of the two boards. Even though Srinivasan, board secretary Sanjay Patel and treasurer Ravi Savant were together for most of the day along with other key executives at the BCCI headquarters in Mumbai, it was understood that the South Africa tour itinerary "wasn't even mentioned" in their discussions.

"The sole purpose of the meeting was to proof read and sign the annual report before it goes for printing ahead of the AGM," said an insider who was a part of the proceedings.

Across the continent, CSA indicated it would send out a release on Wednesday afternoon to reassure the fans and thank them for their support, but later said they would "try for tomorrow". Officials contacted at various franchises said they had no knowledge of any progress on the BCCI-CSA issue and were awaiting further instructions, although many of them expressed concern over a curtailed tour. 

It appears that unless CSA accedes to the cricket bosses in India, the situation is unlikely to change. At least till the BCCI AGM on September 29.

With additional reporting from Firdose Moonda.

Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by crick_sucks on (September 10, 2013, 8:12 GMT)

@Biggus: you have lost it if you think international cricket will survive without India. Either you are a kid who doesn't understand economics or you are just a wishful thinker. Cricket boards all over the world aren't headed by fools(except SA that is) for them to dance to BCCI's music. They need to play India regularly just to merely survive. No one watches Zim Vs Pak or WI vs Pak. You need to play India to get noticed in the world stage. Understand? I guess you can't.

Posted by Nampally on (September 8, 2013, 21:41 GMT)

It is time for BCCI & CSA to behave in a Mature & diplomatic manner in dealings with Cricket matters. An individual is not above the Nation that he or she is representing. The attitude of each Board represents the pulse of the Nation. If the Board President or its members cannot reflect this they should resign & stick to politicking in their National Houses of Parliament. The game of Cricket should be kept clean & above politics. If Mr. Lorgat extends a hand of friendship & conciliation, Mr. Dalmiya should grab it & use it to settle any misunderstanding between the 2 Boards. In addition CSA must guarantee a minimum profit to BCCI to make the tour worth while - If stands are empty, TV revenues should compensate for it. Indian fans definitely owe an explanation as to why SA Tour has been sandwiched between WI & NZ Test matches. Why was the WI Tour of India put in place at the eleventh hour? Is it because of anticipated losses from SA Tour? BCCI/CSA need to be transparent & Accountable!

Posted by Harmony111 on (September 8, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

@Biggus:

What exactly is this bullying behaviour of BCCI that you talk of? Mind telling us a few cases where the BCCI took a baseless stand contrary to what the other side felt?

Posted by Biggus on (September 8, 2013, 6:27 GMT)

@Vishal_07:-You're dreaming if you think modern cricket can't survive without India. It's just those sort of attitudes that seem to drive the BCCI to act in the way it does, and fans like yourself to make similarly uninformed comments. Cricket survived just fine before India became a modern powerhouse and would do so again in the absence of them. Sure, less money would be on the table for TV deals in tests Vs India but we'd manage to get by. It's nice for India that they matter to the modern game but don't suppose for one moment that the rise of India has left the rest of us incapable of managing our affairs or so beholden to that country that we will stand by idly forever and watch the BCCI act in the bullying manner which it deems to be it's birthright. The time is fast coming when the rest of the cricketing world will say, "Enough is enough" so don't say you haven't been warned. If India chooses to continue to act in the way it does there will be a showdown and it won't be pleasant.

Posted by Vishal_07 on (September 8, 2013, 3:30 GMT)

For those of you who are suggesting not to involve India in cricket, you do realize that without India's participation cricket will cease to exist in the modern world. There are enough sports these days - soccer, basketball, tennis, baseball, hockey - to keep people interested. And just look at the West Indies, more and more of their populace is interested in basketball and see the muddle cricket is in there.

Fact is, to compete for TV viewership against these other sports, cricket needs big money. and only one country can keep that going, yes, INDIA!

Posted by Harmony111 on (September 7, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

@PrasPunter: Australia's latest record is 0-8 in India alone & 0-7 overall. Do Australia care or not care for tests? You decide ....

What easy format of WC you talk about huh? Was it only for India? Did other teams play a diff formant? Btw, how was the WC2011 format an easy one? What is easier? Playing 3 knock out matches to win the title or to have a format where it is first a pool then super sixes into which you carry pool points & then play in a round robin manner to qualify for the SF and then to play only 2 knock out matches to win the Title?

How is India's victory easily attained when they batted 2nd in two of the three knock out matches. They chased to win against the Defending World Champions & they chased to become the New World Champions.

If you are suggesting that money power was involved in deciding the result of these matches then it only shows how much perversion is now rooted in some anti-India fans here. It also shows Team Australia in poor light for losing the QF.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2013, 7:21 GMT)

And what did Lorgat do that so offended India? He insisted on implementing DRS, which all the other test nations agree with, yet BCCI want to keep cricket in the dark ages with high error rates in making decisions. It seems to me that a few individuals with an inflated sense of self at the top of BCCI are pursuing a crazy vendetta for personal reasons rather than thinking about what is best for Indian cricket.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2013, 7:16 GMT)

So let me see if I understand this correctly. Because India has lots of people and hence there is lots of television money for playing against them, this means that they should have the right to decide which person leads the cricket association in South Africa. Sounds like imperialism to me.

Meanwhile the South African test team is No. 1 on the ICC rankings, and the Indian team can't really improve without beating better teams. Winning against the West Indies and New Zealand won't help them much.

Posted by   on (September 6, 2013, 18:07 GMT)

Dirty politics, rotten inflated egos - this is the story of Indian cricket. Now its time that to make cricket a real sports and not a mean to settle scores at global stage, countries like SA, Aus and England should take lead and cut India down to its real size. They may end up losing a few million dollars but game of cricket would survive. I have intentionally left out ICC's name as it is the most impotent sports body in the world.

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