England v India, 1st Investec Test, Trent Bridge, 5th day July 13, 2014

Binny's selection does not prove trivial

Why had Stuart Binny been picked in this Test? It was probably not with a match-saving innings in mind, but that's what he produced just when India were threatening to topple apart
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At 3.42pm, Stuart Binny let one Moeen Ali offbreak turn past his inside edge and was given out lbw. Immediately the traffic on the player page of Andy Ganteaume came down. Ganteaume is the only man who was dropped and never picked again after scoring a debut century, although Rodney Redmond had one hundred in one Test but he would have played again barring contact lens problems.

Binny had fallen 22 short of a century on debut after four days of giving the impression India had made a selection error and were playing with 10 men only. It was a century for the taking after the match had been saved and enough time of gentle part-time spin remained, but trivia lovers had to rein in their horses.

At 12.15pm, such trivia was not on anyone's mind. India had somehow managed to get into a position where they were hanging in desperately to save this match. Three specialist batsmen had fallen, and Ravindra Jadeja was batting as if blindfolded with one arm tied behind his back. At effectively 145 for 6, with two-and-a-half sessions to go, India now looked to a man that had been invisible on the field for the first four days. He was brought in to the side to bowl some steady seam and get an extra half batsman in the lower middle order.

Binny played a nervous shot in the first innings to get out for 1, and then looked so innocuous with the ball he bowled only 10 overs in the innings while his role was to bowl 10 in a day. Suddenly he walked in for what the team would have looked at as the most important innings of the Test. Binny was not even playing for his place in the side, for there were no guarantees he would be retained even if he scored a hundred here. He needed to play a team innings. Go on, lad, this could be your last innings; how do you want to be remembered?

Binny might or might not play ever again, but at least he will not be remembered as the selection error in a Test that India made quite a few other errors to lose to England. At various stages India switched off to find themselves trying to save the Test that you would have to play exceptionally poorly to lose.

Binny came in with a mix of nerves and energy. Allowance should be made for the fact that the most incisive spells of James Anderson and Stuart Broad were all but over, but Binny moved positively, showed he could bat, but was also part of two near run-outs. It almost seemed he did not fancy the strike too much at the start of the innings. The first single he took to get off the mark was tight. The next single he took could have been two, but Binny sent Jadeja back. An over later the third he took was a late decision, and Jadeja nearly got run out.

After that, Binny was in, and took the pressure off Jadeja, who had been playing and missing regularly. If Binny is retained, there could be a case for batting him higher in the order. The key part of Binny's innings was the scoring rate and the positive stroke-play. However, it was not based on reckless shots. MS Dhoni's shot to get out - across the line to the first ball bowled by someone other than Anderson or Broad - was reckless and showed clearly he had premeditated to try to hit Liam Plunkett off his rhythm. Binny batted naturally, and was obviously helped along by a flat and slow pitch.

The quality of the innings is hard to tell on such a pitch, but the value of it is obvious. This is only the fourth time out of 17 that India have not begun an England tour with a loss. On the other three occasions India went on to win the series. India will need to improve drastically if they are to keep that pattern going - it will be hard to get such favourable pitches, win the toss, and have good starts in the other Tests of the series - but Binny has - by fulfilling part of his role - made sure it will not be easy to drop him.

It will come down to the conditions at Lord's, and it should also come down to if the team feels Binny could be relied upon on the first four days to provide the main bowlers a break or if the conditions here hampered him in that pursuit.

Even if Binny does not play Test cricket again, it will not be down to attitude. Ganteaume was left out because he allegedly batted too slow despite team instructions and cost West Indies the time they could have used to force a Test win. The team said Ganteaume failed them. Binny, on the other hand, did his team job all right at least on the final day; it was when going for the personal glory that he failed.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 6:01 GMT

    Binny showed character and confidence during the time he spent at the crease and took India out of trouble The bowlers had their tails up after getting rid of Dhoni He saw the new ball off easilyIf it wasnt for an ordinary decision where the ball was clearly missing leg stump the century was his At Test level it is character which matter most It is mystifying to see people saying he is unfit for test when he has proved it at a stage and with runs and in the manner in which he made them For that reason I dont see Dhoni replacing him with Rohit who has shown no great ability at test level in New Zealand England has used Paul Collingwood well in the past I dont see why Binny cant be another like him It is Jadeja who should be replaced with Ashwin and possibly Dhawan with Gambhir though Dhoni might want to give Dhawan another chance Both Dhawan and Rahane need to show more determination and put their heads down to retain their place

  • POSTED BY CricketMakdi on | July 15, 2014, 17:49 GMT

    @Cricketfan, Gambhir and Rohit come at the top order. Openers always have higher avg, infact Jiwanjot and other openers have higher avg than Binny!

    Avg is just one factor for selecting but there are other factors which contribute the selection.

  • POSTED BY ishrat1971 on | July 15, 2014, 10:35 GMT

    I think given a few tests Binny would be able to bat at No.6 he has the capacity to do so and bowl ten to fifteen overs a day

  • POSTED BY cktspirit on | July 15, 2014, 5:20 GMT

    It is surprising Binny was given only 10 overs to bowl. For those who think Binny's lack of tear away pace does not help, do not forget contributions of Madan Lal, Roger Binny and Mohinder Amaranath.

    We need to be able to accept the view point for variety in pace attack, Ishant, Shami, Bhuvi and Varun/ other would be a good combination too. Given the Indian bowling weakness, that is the department that needs to be strengthened.

  • POSTED BY ladycricfan on | July 15, 2014, 4:39 GMT

    As far as batting is concerned Gambhir (51) and Rohit (60) have far better first class averages than Binny(37). So Binny should be chosen only when the conditions suit his bowling. He can't be chosen for his batting ability alone.

  • POSTED BY CherryWood_Champion on | July 15, 2014, 1:59 GMT

    Binny did show his talent in this match. But having said that I would trade horses for courses. If the pitch for the second match is same as Tent Bridge, I would bring in Varun Aaron at his expense. We need someone who can bowl 145+ on these pitches. Make him bowl short 4-over spells. Jaddu looked at sea in his two brief innings and is woefully out of form.So I would bring back Ashwin into the team in his place. Dhawan deserves another chance and should seriously consider Gauthi if he fails in the next match. My team for the next match will be. 1-Shikar, 2-Vijay, 3-Pujara, 4-Kohli, 5-Rahane, 6-Dhoni, 7-Ashwin, 8-Bhuvi, 9-Shami, 10-Ishant, 11-Varun Aaron

  • POSTED BY ChiragPathak on | July 15, 2014, 0:41 GMT

    . Zero talent Rohit come in a side as many time as he wants ! ! But who performs is considered, wrong selection.

    Cricket pundits rated Rohit higher than Virat and happened completely reverse Same way Cricket pundits rated Ashwin higher than RJadeja and happened reverse of it.

    Same way Binny will be proved more talented than Rohit, M.Vijay, Ashwin and many more .

  • POSTED BY flavamonkey on | July 14, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    Here is an offbeat idea: replace Dhawan with Ashwin. Rahane can open with Vijay. It will give the team a lot of bowling options. There will be plenty of batting in the middle to late order.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    Binny did his job. Not many in our famed batting line-up could put their hand up to save the game - Binny along with Jadeja & BK ensured that we did not demonstrate how to loose a game when we probably could have won it.

    Though I would think Dhoni under bowled him. He's not express, but could be handful on seaming tracks bowls around (124-127K).

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | July 14, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    When Binny came in, the lead was 145 and there were still 77.5 overs remaining. If he had got out and if England managed to wrap up the other 3 wickets in the next 10 overs for 35 runs, the target would have been 180 runs. Take out 3 overs for the change-over, and that would mean nearly 65 overs. Which would be about 2.77 runs per over. India scored at 2.83 runs per over in their first innings and England's rate was 3.42 runs per over. India's second innings scoring rate at Dhoni's wicket was exactly 3.00 runs per over. So, there is no question that Binny's innings saved the match for India.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 6:01 GMT

    Binny showed character and confidence during the time he spent at the crease and took India out of trouble The bowlers had their tails up after getting rid of Dhoni He saw the new ball off easilyIf it wasnt for an ordinary decision where the ball was clearly missing leg stump the century was his At Test level it is character which matter most It is mystifying to see people saying he is unfit for test when he has proved it at a stage and with runs and in the manner in which he made them For that reason I dont see Dhoni replacing him with Rohit who has shown no great ability at test level in New Zealand England has used Paul Collingwood well in the past I dont see why Binny cant be another like him It is Jadeja who should be replaced with Ashwin and possibly Dhawan with Gambhir though Dhoni might want to give Dhawan another chance Both Dhawan and Rahane need to show more determination and put their heads down to retain their place

  • POSTED BY CricketMakdi on | July 15, 2014, 17:49 GMT

    @Cricketfan, Gambhir and Rohit come at the top order. Openers always have higher avg, infact Jiwanjot and other openers have higher avg than Binny!

    Avg is just one factor for selecting but there are other factors which contribute the selection.

  • POSTED BY ishrat1971 on | July 15, 2014, 10:35 GMT

    I think given a few tests Binny would be able to bat at No.6 he has the capacity to do so and bowl ten to fifteen overs a day

  • POSTED BY cktspirit on | July 15, 2014, 5:20 GMT

    It is surprising Binny was given only 10 overs to bowl. For those who think Binny's lack of tear away pace does not help, do not forget contributions of Madan Lal, Roger Binny and Mohinder Amaranath.

    We need to be able to accept the view point for variety in pace attack, Ishant, Shami, Bhuvi and Varun/ other would be a good combination too. Given the Indian bowling weakness, that is the department that needs to be strengthened.

  • POSTED BY ladycricfan on | July 15, 2014, 4:39 GMT

    As far as batting is concerned Gambhir (51) and Rohit (60) have far better first class averages than Binny(37). So Binny should be chosen only when the conditions suit his bowling. He can't be chosen for his batting ability alone.

  • POSTED BY CherryWood_Champion on | July 15, 2014, 1:59 GMT

    Binny did show his talent in this match. But having said that I would trade horses for courses. If the pitch for the second match is same as Tent Bridge, I would bring in Varun Aaron at his expense. We need someone who can bowl 145+ on these pitches. Make him bowl short 4-over spells. Jaddu looked at sea in his two brief innings and is woefully out of form.So I would bring back Ashwin into the team in his place. Dhawan deserves another chance and should seriously consider Gauthi if he fails in the next match. My team for the next match will be. 1-Shikar, 2-Vijay, 3-Pujara, 4-Kohli, 5-Rahane, 6-Dhoni, 7-Ashwin, 8-Bhuvi, 9-Shami, 10-Ishant, 11-Varun Aaron

  • POSTED BY ChiragPathak on | July 15, 2014, 0:41 GMT

    . Zero talent Rohit come in a side as many time as he wants ! ! But who performs is considered, wrong selection.

    Cricket pundits rated Rohit higher than Virat and happened completely reverse Same way Cricket pundits rated Ashwin higher than RJadeja and happened reverse of it.

    Same way Binny will be proved more talented than Rohit, M.Vijay, Ashwin and many more .

  • POSTED BY flavamonkey on | July 14, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    Here is an offbeat idea: replace Dhawan with Ashwin. Rahane can open with Vijay. It will give the team a lot of bowling options. There will be plenty of batting in the middle to late order.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    Binny did his job. Not many in our famed batting line-up could put their hand up to save the game - Binny along with Jadeja & BK ensured that we did not demonstrate how to loose a game when we probably could have won it.

    Though I would think Dhoni under bowled him. He's not express, but could be handful on seaming tracks bowls around (124-127K).

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | July 14, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    When Binny came in, the lead was 145 and there were still 77.5 overs remaining. If he had got out and if England managed to wrap up the other 3 wickets in the next 10 overs for 35 runs, the target would have been 180 runs. Take out 3 overs for the change-over, and that would mean nearly 65 overs. Which would be about 2.77 runs per over. India scored at 2.83 runs per over in their first innings and England's rate was 3.42 runs per over. India's second innings scoring rate at Dhoni's wicket was exactly 3.00 runs per over. So, there is no question that Binny's innings saved the match for India.

  • POSTED BY CrickFan82 on | July 14, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    Binny does have the attitude to perform at the big stage, he did show with his match winning performance in Bangladesh, yeah Bangladesh is still a very good team at home. We cannot judge his bowling in any stretch on this pitch, even Jimmy hardly swung the ball. He definitely deserves a few more chances, dropping him in the next game is too harsh on him. Ashwin could replace Jadeja and team should stick on with Binny. This is England and we need a swing bowler who can bat, selectors and team management brought him for that reason and we need to stick on to it. So far there is nothing to suggest that things haven not gone as per plan, Binny should be given more chances.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    I was not a fan of Binny until yesterday, and can't claim that I'm one even now. But, he definitely showed his prowess and utility to the side in his debut, and therefore warrant a place in the next for sure. Probably the confidence he achieved from that innings can take him to a new heights.

    Regardless of whether he retain a spot in England tour any further, Binny would be a great addition to the squad in Indian conditions; where he can retain the spot in lieu of one of the seemers going out for Ashwin. Having upto no.9 to bat reasonably well (5+WK+Jad+Binny+Ashwin) makes India even a greater side in India.

  • POSTED BY Gdesai on | July 14, 2014, 9:22 GMT

    I felt Binny looked solid in defence and more confident than Dhoni and Jadeja. He is naturally a stroke player which makes him a good fit at No. 6/7. He is a utility bowler especially in swinging conditions who could play the role of Sanjay Bangar in 'that' famous series..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 14, 2014, 9:21 GMT

    Stuart Binny in retrospect wasnt the best selection for this Test. What is a welcome change is India managements intent to play an additional seamer (Fans have been shouting themselves hoarse from the SA and NZ tours). So many times we have taken players as merely tourists and showed a stupid ans stubborn reluctance to change the tried and tested lineup. This change in attitude bodes well for India and I am glad Binny helped the cause by playing a match saving knock. Now I hope India gives him atleast one more cap on a helpful wicket to test his bowling skills.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 14, 2014, 9:15 GMT

    The quality of the innings is hard to tell on such a pitch, but the value of it is obvious.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 8:57 GMT

    If Binny is playing, then Ravindra Jadeja simply has to play. Ashwin can fit into the side only if India go in with 5 proper bowlers, Binny isn't one, Ashwin goes for a lot more runs than Jadeja and hasn't taken too many overseas wickets either, in fact Jadeja is better on both counts. Jadeja is not Anil Kumble or Harbhajan at his peak, but he's the better spinner in overseas conditions. If Ashwin comes in, it has to be on a track that might spin a bit, as replacement for Binny. Ashwin can certainly bat, he has a test batting average close to 40. MSD, Ashwin, Jadeja, or MSD, Binny Jadeja, that has to be the 6 7 8 for India. If Jadeja isn't doing his job, then bring in a 4th seamer, and use Ashwin as the all-rounder. Think they'll go unchanged for the next game.

  • POSTED BY joebee on | July 14, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    Binny has justified his selection.

    If he had been well utilised as a bowler, he would certainly have got a wicket or 2 .

    His bowling will be useful and if India is to win in England we need him in the Test team

  • POSTED BY garysam123 on | July 14, 2014, 8:51 GMT

    Dhoni is not utilizing Binny's Bowling to the maximum. How can a medium fast bowler bowls just 10 over in a test match with many spells? It is evident that Dhoni is not giving him the chance to show his ability. Also in the ODI's, Dhoni gave just 3 or 4 overs to bowl. It is Raina who used him well. Due to which he grabbed a 6 wicket haul. What is Dhawan and Rahane doing here? Can use other talents.

  • POSTED BY ramli on | July 14, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    Always bits-and-pieces cricketers are unappreciated ... Binny looks the piece India needs in England ... why all the hue and cry ... let us go step-by-step ... first 5-0 possibility has been thwarted ... next is to avoid defeat at any cost, even at the cost of win ... a draw is a positive result for beleagured teams .. let us do that first and then choose teams as per conditions ... what would Ashwin have done in bowling than Jadeja? He can bat better than him ... so the obvious thing will be to replace Jadeja with Ashwin ... to even consider replacing Binny when he had shown the stomach to fight belies all common snese

  • POSTED BY gurufrequent on | July 14, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    just one change is needed: Gambhir for Dhawan !!

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 7:59 GMT

    Binny's old man Roger was a fine swing bowler and was quite successful in England.The boy would have been an asset in England if HE could bowl as good as his Papa.

  • POSTED BY Siddee on | July 14, 2014, 7:59 GMT

    I don't understand, how people call this innings of Binny as Match saving innings.. I suspect Binny and Jadeja wont stand for the decent bowling conditions even.

    In that flat pitch, if he doesn't score runs then he is not fit for playing International cricket. It was written that this test is Draw when India's 10th wckt partnerships was 100.

  • POSTED BY champx on | July 14, 2014, 7:18 GMT

    @Aaranya did you read the whole article?There were two and half sessions left and if binny was not there THEN it would have been a disaster for both indian team and Binny himself.This is his first test match....what did you expect?A century and 10 wickets for entire test.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 7:18 GMT

    he played at the crucial time we cant forget his bowling spell against Bangladesh..i must say Suresh raina utilized him well than Dhoni..Binny u hv great cheers frm us..he also did well in practice match...wen he got wickets in Bangla all said he is batting allrounder he shd prove tat..nw ppl saying abt his bowling..

  • POSTED BY afzal501 on | July 14, 2014, 7:10 GMT

    If India want to win next match they should keep Binny bring back Ashwin and remove Jedaja, because there is no point keeping both Ashwin and Jedaja, Ashwin is better bowler and batsman, Biney gives them long batting line up plus bowler, if there is a swinging condition he would be handy, just think of him as Watson for Australia. When India go to Australia Biney will be important because he is a good all rounder. Sometimes I think these team selectors don't really care about the team they just own agendas when they pick certain team, I think us fans can pick better team then them.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 7:10 GMT

    "The quality of the innings is hard to tell on such a pitch, but the value of it is obvious" what do u expect Sidharth Monga A DOUBLE HUNDRED ON A GREEN TRACK, He played really well. I don't understand this theory do u think foreign players (except top players like Amla or clarke or cook or KP) score 100's in indian turning tracks BIG NO they also score when tracks r flat best example is Ian Bell and trot who struggled in Indian tracks until flat Nagpur track

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    Before the test started or after the first couple of days,I was also of the opinion that Ashwin/Rohit for Binny would be the more sensible choice for the next test. But I do feel now that Ashwin could very well be brought in for Shami. 1) Shami looked totally out of sorts in this match. Even I Sharma had bursts of spells in which he looked menacing(B Kumar was the pick of the bowlers,so no dropping him), but Shami really looked out of sorts. So why not just exploit the English's wekness against spin and have a right-left spin combination. Assuming that the next pitch would've something in it for the bowlers,Binny could very well be more useful that in this test and provide the 3rd seam option. And since he has shown some ability with the bat it does look like a win-win scenario....

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | July 14, 2014, 6:47 GMT

    First of all we need solid openers,right now need to drop Dhawan for that. before asking question on Binny, what is Jadeja doing in the team ? On seaming,swinging,bouncing england tracks Binny is always better bowler than Jadeja. Though this track was not a typical English but Binny was still better than Jadeja. Binny was deliberately underused by Dhoni, had he given more chances to Binny definitely we wouldn't have to witness record 11th wicket partnership of all time. Binny has showed his character in just 1 or 2 limited chances he got, don't write him off before giving enough chances. so they need to DROP Jadeja and get ashwin in, which dhoni will not do, because he doesn't want give Jadeja's place for anybody else, which makes it difficult for Jadeja to comeback.

  • POSTED BY Rahul_78 on | July 14, 2014, 6:45 GMT

    I think MSD went with a right team in the opening match of the series. By playing Binny he showed intent. Alas Binny is no Kapil Dev or Manoj Prabhakar. Also not only India even England seemed to have misread the pitch. A ground which has reputation of producing results and where Anderson has taken wicket for fun, it was expected of Binny to bowl tightly for 10-15 overs a day and look for an odd wicket. Again it s due to the poor pitch MSD didnt and couldnt use Binny more. I dont think so that we will encounter this kind of the pitch again in the series. Ball does swing in England and it hardly spins. Ashwin on the other hand has a horrendous overseas record in tests. Unless until he has shown enough signs to the coach and skipper in the nets and practice matches that he has improved drastically or if the pitch is really going to take turn he doesnt merit his place in the XI. MSD could have looked to play Mishra or Ojha instead in place of Jadeja. Both are better spinners then Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY cad76 on | July 14, 2014, 6:42 GMT

    1 Shami needs to go back to Domestic and improve Stamina... one good spell is not enough. He fails in all 2nd innings (SA, NZ) and now later half of 1st innings itself in Eng. 2 Dhoni not standing upto Stumps for Binny was surprising.... that didnt help binny-the bowler. 3 Both Ashwin-Jadeja are not worth outside subcontinents...unfortunately, no-one else putting pressure on them.... Ojha struggling in Aus. Harbhajan playing Bhangda in punjab 4. Vijay did well... we must appreciate his efforts.... hopefully, he will learn not to throw his wicket now.

  • POSTED BY Rajeshj on | July 14, 2014, 6:36 GMT

    I think Binny showed a lot of character in this innings.. Of course Jadeja and Binny played when Anderson and Broad were drained and faced lesser hostile and harmful bowling from England.. lack of bounce in the pitch helped them too.. Based on this test, one can safely conclude that Jadeja does not belong to the test arena and should be played only in limited overs fixtures.. its been 3 tests in a row, where Jadeja has almost gone wicketless.. Ashwin played one wicketless test and was taken away.. there is a case of team selection bias here.. Binny should be given a couple of more chances to enhance and ascertain his test credentials.. he could be nice replacement for Rohit.. Apart from this, Dhawan looks quite brainless and clueless in facing quality bowling.. He can at best be given one more chance.. Virat Kohli is fast becoming the new-age Ganguly/Tendulkar.. i.e. playing one good innings per series... no real consistency from him..

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | July 14, 2014, 6:30 GMT

    Dhoni did not want Binny, so he didn't give much chances to Binny in bowling, but India found in difficult situation with 6 down and nearly 60 overs left, Binny involved in 7th wicket 65 run and 8th wicket 91 run partnerships, it was a Vital contribution. No matter what, dhoni only prefers Chennai team mates or UP,Jarkhand school mates, thats is what his gut feeling and experience.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 6:03 GMT

    My playing XI would be for lords: 1. Dhaan, 2. Vijay, 3. Puajra, 4. Kohli, 5. Rahane, 6. Dhoni, 7. Ashwin, 8. Bhuvi, 9. Jadeja, 10. Ishant, 11. Shami

  • POSTED BY Aaranya on | July 14, 2014, 5:43 GMT

    Let us not give credit to any batsman on this pitch. If that going to be the guiding factor and keep people like Binny in test team, that would be a disaster.

    If Binny is considered as 'all rounder' , then what about some one scored 58 runs and 63 runs & took 5 wickets.....'super all rounder'?.....Let us stop kidding.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | July 14, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I believe dhawan will retain his place at least for Lords Test and ashwin will only come in place of binny if the conditions at Lords give indication of giving assistence (pitch/ weather) to Spinners. My guess is that there would be no change which I do not find bad. A second Chance can be to this combination. Binny should be nurtured for future oversee tours.

  • POSTED BY Sandman5five on | July 14, 2014, 5:12 GMT

    Binny did his job on the 5th day, yes. But the problem is, he simply isn't fitting in with the requirement of the team right now. His bowling was a big let down. I would drop him and bring in a proper bowler (Pankaj Singh) and play Bhuvaneshwar Kumar as the all-rounder.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 5:05 GMT

    Nice summary of Binny's role in the article. For me the only change in Lords should be Ashwin in place of Jadeja. we will have better bowling and batting unit vis-a-vis this match.

  • POSTED BY vsreddy4u on | July 14, 2014, 4:57 GMT

    I think india have to retain binny for the next match.dropping shami and bringing ashwin is a good option though.

  • POSTED BY srinideva on | July 14, 2014, 4:51 GMT

    The wickets have fallen only when the ball is reversing and in some case the poor shot from the batsman, Ex.: shikhar dhawan. Bowlers scored more runs than top order batsman gives you something about this test match. I`m really looking forward to see how these lower middle order fare against the seaming ball.

  • POSTED BY Sir_Ivor on | July 14, 2014, 4:45 GMT

    Stuart Binny should bat at no 5. He has the technique and temperament to bat against all the pace bowlers on view.He has the strokes that one loves to see from a top order bat.I hope they stick with him. They will realise that he could be a match winner. I fancy his chances in the third Test as a bowler. That game is at Southampton I think.

  • POSTED BY ladycricfan on | July 14, 2014, 4:28 GMT

    On flat pitches Binny's bowling will be ineffective but can contribute with the bat. In green pitches his bowling will be effective but will he able to score runs against the likes of Anderson on those pitches? We are yet to find out.

  • POSTED BY Prem_Nistal on | July 14, 2014, 4:25 GMT

    I am surprised at the comments on 5th blowler, truth is that jadeja and shammi did not contribute well with their bowling . 5th bowler is mostly played not to take wickets but to hold one end up, and give rest to main bowlers. Binny did the job whatever was given to him. we do not need six batsman but we may need two seamers and two spinners. Rohit is nohit..he is another yuvrajsingh of tests. top order should retain their places for next three tests because they have seen England main attack and that experience will help them. there is scope for a spinner instead of seamer but Dhoni won't play two spinners overseas.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    The bottom line is whether it is Binny, Ashwin or Jadeja who is in the playing 11, India needs 4 other bowlers. I am not sure if India can afford to carry 2 out of the above 3 if they want to win !

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 3:37 GMT

    I do not think Binny can play the role of allrounder in test cricket may be in odi format . My team will be gambhir vijay aprajith pujara kohli rahane dhoni bhuvi mishra umesh shami.Right now amit mishra is best attacking spinner in India .Aprajith is gud batting allrounder he can bowl part off spin.Umesh is far better bowler than ishant sharma . Aprajith can play the role of fifth bowler and we have three fast bowler and two spinner.Rishi dhawan must have been selected in place of binny and umesh in place of either pankaj or ishwar pandey.Sandeep sharma should be given chance in future he can swing the ball both way the only problem is he lack pace .

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | July 14, 2014, 3:36 GMT

    Ashwin may not be good against batsmen but he is good against the tail. And Ashwin never played with another spinner in his matches abroad. At home he took many wickets because he always played with Ojah or Jadeja. In this tour he may have an impact if allowed to bowl with Jadeja. But it is not fair to drop Binny now. Ashwin cannot be slotted in. He has to wait.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 3:15 GMT

    Ashwin for Jadeja/Binny and Ishwar for Ishant (once in a blue moon performance can't win matches). Retain 5 bowling option

  • POSTED BY ccrriicc on | July 14, 2014, 3:10 GMT

    Binny saved you the blues. Keep him - his 78 must have done his confidence a lot of good. Ashwin will not do anything at Lords. Jadeja is vibrant, hard working - a terrific fielder, a live wire - Keep the team - if at all change Rohit with Rahane.

  • POSTED BY Sexysteven on | July 14, 2014, 1:05 GMT

    I would put rahane at top rohit at five he's to good not to be playing ashwin for binny Aaron for shami to add some pace to the attack that's the changes I would make

  • POSTED BY sampu_sheikh on | July 14, 2014, 0:32 GMT

    I would drop Dhawan and Jadeja bring in Gambhir and Ashwin. Binny shouldn't be dropped, he saved the test for India. As we saw, he can chip in with the bat if not the ball. Although he was underbowled, I don't blame Dhoni as Bhuvi, Shami and Ishant were doing well. It was Jadeja's bowling that cost India the game IMO.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2014, 0:25 GMT

    If Binny is going to continue playing, he has to bat at 6. He is not a bowling allrounder. Dhoni at 7. The other option at 6 is Rohit Sharma, who can be used as a fifth bowler or an adventurous option is Ashwin batting at 6, a strong fifth bowler. Jadeja would have got wickets in the 2nd innings if England had batted on day 4 or 5. He is the main spinner in the side and could bat okay at 8.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | July 13, 2014, 23:58 GMT

    India definitely made a mistake of selecting a 5th bowler in Binny. He came in as an all rounder capable of providing help to the medium pacers & taking a few wkts. In batting Binny got out to a poor stroke in the first innings but he compensated in the second innings with a fine knock of 78 when India needed it. Well Done Binny! This is not to say that had India got Rohit Sharma or Ashwin playing instead of Binny,they would not have totalled 80 runs in 2 innings! The fact remains that India missed their 5th bowler when they could not polish off England tail from 202 for 7. Had there been a good 5th bowler, India would have won the Test from that position. So the XI selection was lop sided! A good pace bowler like Umesh Yadev is Missing. Alternately Aaron with his extra pace around 150 KPH may have polished the England Tail - assuming Ashwin would have been ineffective. Kohli's failure in both the innings can not be condoned. He needs to lead the batting. But India needs a #5 bowler!

  • POSTED BY jango_moh on | July 13, 2014, 23:35 GMT

    i think binny can probably continue if the pitch has atleast a little bit in it for the seamers.... jadeja should most definitely be replaced with ashwin.... at the very least, ashwin will play a responsible innings, and is a far better spinner than jadeja..... not sure why jadeja is playing like a tail-ender.... if he needs to be considered an allrounder in tests, he needs to be confident in his defense.....

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 23:34 GMT

    gambhir, vijay, kohli, rohit, dhoni, binny, Ashwin, bhuvi, pankajsingh, shami, ishant or I.C pandey

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 23:00 GMT

    The current tactic of playing 5 batsmen and 5 bowlers is perfect. Just need to replace Jadeja with Ashwin, who is a better bowler and actually a much better batsman than Jadeja. And Binny should stay.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 22:30 GMT

    Well written, Sidharth Monga. The line I liked the most is: "Binny, on the other hand, did his team job all right at least on the final day; it was only when going for personal glory that he failed." What a heroic innings from Stuart Binny. If I were the Indian team captain, I would retain Binny for the Lord's Test at least for the attitude and team commitment he has shown in this match. As you rightly pointed out, Binny had nothing to lose on a personal front. He was not even playing to save his spot for the Lord's Test. He just took on the the responsibility of saving the Test match for this team and did it successfully.

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | July 13, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    Indian team management have to treat this draw as a win and keep the same side as they normally do keep the combination win or lose. There is concern about shami (seems unfir) but dhawan has more years in him than gambhir, binny needs a competitive test so to be retained. Jaddu needs long stay with the team and will gradually realize his potential while Ashwin very often becomes ineffective with his variations.

  • POSTED BY iamgroot on | July 13, 2014, 21:44 GMT

    Dhoni needs to take make few changes. First Dhawan was careless and threw his wicket away after playing well in 2nd innings putting team in danger. Then Ishant sharma, he gave away 150 runs for his 3 wickets. That is very expensive. Ind team Vijay, Gambhir , Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Dhoni, Binny, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Iswar pandey/Pankaj Singh, Shami/Aron. Ashwin needs to come into the team simply because Eng has 4 to 5 left hand batsman and Ashwin can strengthen batting too much better than Rohit. Rohit sharma will simply throw away his wicket. So 3 changes Dhawan, Jaddu, Ishanth should make way to Gambhir, Ashwin, Iswar pandey or pankaj singh. That will strengthen team with 5 bowlers and enough batsmen.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 20:44 GMT

    Stuart Binny did his bit in the second innings as a batsman & in the end - the rescue man for the Team India. Definitely he deserves to be in the next match, also being an all-rounder.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 20:05 GMT

    What is the problem with Stuart Binny's Selection? Only one chance he got, he saved one test. Don't forget the role of Sanjay Bangar earlier in England and also don't forget about Sri Lankan Player Mathews; Now Mathews is a good all-rounder, even because of Mathews (medium fast bowler) they win test series against England recently. Earlier he came same like Binny only. Please give more chance to Binny. And also if need one more bowler, avoid Sikhar Dhawan; he cannot play in bouncy pitches consistently. Include Parvez, Baba or Akshar Patel in place Dhawan and give promotion to Rahane as opener.

  • POSTED BY smartbombayite on | July 13, 2014, 20:04 GMT

    To write off an individual after bowling him for only 10 overs would be so totally unfair on him. Stuart Binny has always been a consistent player in the Ranji circuit playing with a lion heart. He has been in the local scene for so many years that he even played for the ICL for a stint. Luckily for him alongside Rayudu, the BCCI decided to overturn their ban and allow them back for selection. Lastly if his last name is any indication, then he surely is not a one match wonder and every worthy another BINNY Indian match winner in all aspects. Well Done Stuart Binny.

  • POSTED BY Cric__Dude on | July 13, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    I do not understand why people say Binny should be left out of second test after this match-saving innings. The four he hit of a reverse swinging ball of Anderson was beauty. What was that sound it made? Absolute beauty. He can play only for his batting alone. Binny is far better than inconsistent Dhawan/Rohit. Rohit fans, please don't take a spot for granted. He needed 100+ ODIs to prove something. Doesn't Binny deserve few chances to prove himself. Be kind.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 19:57 GMT

    I don't get the hoopla around Binny's selection. Binny is an effective seaming alrounder. He proved himself at Bangladesh in helpful conditions. Proved his batting over here. He's tailor made for England conditions (this pitch is an exception). Remember there was a time when actually all English bowlers were slow seamers like Binny? Ganguly, a similar bowler got 6 wickets in as many spells and just 37 overs in his debut series in England.

  • POSTED BY Chakra1685 on | July 13, 2014, 19:10 GMT

    Regarding Indian team selection for 2nd test

    I definitely feel we need 2 changes - 1. Ashwin should come in for Jadeja, he is better bowler/batsman than Sir.... 2. Gambhir replacing Dhawan... i know Dhawan has scored century in NZ but i dont see him confident these days and may be Gambhir is what team want..... 3. Binny replaced with Rohit... though i believe Binny should be given another chance and if given, please give more overs to him... common...

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    replace rehane or dhawan and bring aswin in if you want..aswin is not going to doo anything in next test as condiitions will be entirely diffrent from this first test

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Guys we need to replace Jaddu with Ashwin and Binny with Rohit.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 13, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    Very presumptive that Binny may not play a test ever again. If anything can be read from MSD's comments in the post match presentation, it seems Stuart has the captains backing. In any case, MSD isn't known to reign in frequent changes. Binny has a role in this series. And that role is on the playing field. Not as a reserve. If any change has to be done, then Ishant has to make way for one of the reserve seamers!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 13, 2014, 18:28 GMT

    does not prove trivial but at lords go with Ashwin. Need bowler all rounder. Risk worth taking.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 18:15 GMT

    The indian selection - men on top had better be aware that it is easy for players to play well on a batting pitch. These innings , though the bowlers played well, there is no guarantee of any repeat or consistent performance - ( I sincerely hope that I am proved wrong) .these could have been fluke as all bowlers save Ishant Sharma batted really well and as a matter of paradox better than even the top order batsmen.

    It remains to be seen how this same team if all are retained how they perform. I can see only 1 change that of Ishant Sharma or Shikhar Dhawan being replaced by R. Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 18:15 GMT

    The indian selection - men on top had better be aware that it is easy for players to play well on a batting pitch. These innings , though the bowlers played well, there is no guarantee of any repeat or consistent performance - ( I sincerely hope that I am proved wrong) .these could have been fluke as all bowlers save Ishant Sharma batted really well and as a matter of paradox better than even the top order batsmen.

    It remains to be seen how this same team if all are retained how they perform. I can see only 1 change that of Ishant Sharma or Shikhar Dhawan being replaced by R. Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 13, 2014, 18:28 GMT

    does not prove trivial but at lords go with Ashwin. Need bowler all rounder. Risk worth taking.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 13, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    Very presumptive that Binny may not play a test ever again. If anything can be read from MSD's comments in the post match presentation, it seems Stuart has the captains backing. In any case, MSD isn't known to reign in frequent changes. Binny has a role in this series. And that role is on the playing field. Not as a reserve. If any change has to be done, then Ishant has to make way for one of the reserve seamers!

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Guys we need to replace Jaddu with Ashwin and Binny with Rohit.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    replace rehane or dhawan and bring aswin in if you want..aswin is not going to doo anything in next test as condiitions will be entirely diffrent from this first test

  • POSTED BY Chakra1685 on | July 13, 2014, 19:10 GMT

    Regarding Indian team selection for 2nd test

    I definitely feel we need 2 changes - 1. Ashwin should come in for Jadeja, he is better bowler/batsman than Sir.... 2. Gambhir replacing Dhawan... i know Dhawan has scored century in NZ but i dont see him confident these days and may be Gambhir is what team want..... 3. Binny replaced with Rohit... though i believe Binny should be given another chance and if given, please give more overs to him... common...

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 19:57 GMT

    I don't get the hoopla around Binny's selection. Binny is an effective seaming alrounder. He proved himself at Bangladesh in helpful conditions. Proved his batting over here. He's tailor made for England conditions (this pitch is an exception). Remember there was a time when actually all English bowlers were slow seamers like Binny? Ganguly, a similar bowler got 6 wickets in as many spells and just 37 overs in his debut series in England.

  • POSTED BY Cric__Dude on | July 13, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    I do not understand why people say Binny should be left out of second test after this match-saving innings. The four he hit of a reverse swinging ball of Anderson was beauty. What was that sound it made? Absolute beauty. He can play only for his batting alone. Binny is far better than inconsistent Dhawan/Rohit. Rohit fans, please don't take a spot for granted. He needed 100+ ODIs to prove something. Doesn't Binny deserve few chances to prove himself. Be kind.

  • POSTED BY smartbombayite on | July 13, 2014, 20:04 GMT

    To write off an individual after bowling him for only 10 overs would be so totally unfair on him. Stuart Binny has always been a consistent player in the Ranji circuit playing with a lion heart. He has been in the local scene for so many years that he even played for the ICL for a stint. Luckily for him alongside Rayudu, the BCCI decided to overturn their ban and allow them back for selection. Lastly if his last name is any indication, then he surely is not a one match wonder and every worthy another BINNY Indian match winner in all aspects. Well Done Stuart Binny.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2014, 20:05 GMT

    What is the problem with Stuart Binny's Selection? Only one chance he got, he saved one test. Don't forget the role of Sanjay Bangar earlier in England and also don't forget about Sri Lankan Player Mathews; Now Mathews is a good all-rounder, even because of Mathews (medium fast bowler) they win test series against England recently. Earlier he came same like Binny only. Please give more chance to Binny. And also if need one more bowler, avoid Sikhar Dhawan; he cannot play in bouncy pitches consistently. Include Parvez, Baba or Akshar Patel in place Dhawan and give promotion to Rahane as opener.