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'A glimpse into India's Test future'

Defeats in the first two Tests have put India's young talent, selection, scheduling and injury management in the spotlight. Harsha Bhogle, Sanjay Manjrekar and Sambit Bal discuss the lessons to be learnt going ahead (42:03)

Producer: Siddhartha Talya

August 8, 2011

Posted by vijaywithlove on (August 9, 2011, 14:34 GMT)

what do u think of the replacements which BCCI sent for injuries. Dont u think u could have sent virat kohli before yuvi as he wouldnt have been under cooked as he had have played in WI or badrinath or manoj tiwari or rohit sharma who did very well in ODIs in WI. and also abhimanyu mithun instead of RP singh. or IF RP singh then why not IRFAN PATHAN who cud have brought solidarity atleast in lower order which is badly struggling.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2011, 20:36 GMT)

I don't buy what Harsha and sanjay say about IPL. It is the place, where the youngsters are getting carried away by the fame and money. You don't find any cricketer anymore interested to play the test matches. And above all they don't have the technique, which s very important in test matches. Sambit made a valid point of increasing the pay for test matches, equivalent to IPL, so that players improve their technique to play test matches. And Sanjay and Harsha are making a mockery of the comment. And Harsha saying, Dhoni's keeping skills are in wane only in the series. But he has never been the best keeper. Mongia was a much better keeper than Dhoni. Harsha talking rubbish about tour of WI. What if WI, when peak had decided to postpone a tour to India? Any player/team in any game can retain the no1, only if he/it plays more game and not being idle. IPL the villain for india's dismal show in england

Posted by   on (August 8, 2011, 19:09 GMT)

I am in complete agreement with the comment about the role of Fletcher and his knowledge of English cricket.

Although, I agree with most of the discussion, but I do not agree with the point that the selectors and the scouts are doing a good job in unearthing fast bowling talents.

Also, when you keep saying RP Singh and other bowlers are not upto mark except Zaheer and in spin the likes of Amit Mishra, Piyush Chawla, Pragyan Ojha are not favoured in playing XI ...why is that we keeping looking back at them when zaheers and bhajjis of Indian cricket are "Un-fit" or "Out of form".

In the batting department also why does Yuvrajs keeps getting the chances to prove themselves... while the likes of Badrinaths not given a chance.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2011, 12:30 GMT)

bring back Irfan Pathan, He is a real talent. does Ashish Nehra no longer play tests

Posted by   on (August 8, 2011, 8:11 GMT)

@Alexk400 In any work time to prepare is crucia if you want to winl, especially when conditions change. It is not as if the BCCI do not have the money. They have truckloads of it. India would not have been able to draw the test series in SA had Gary Kirsten not brought their available and most important players to SA beforehand. India had the same chance now with D Fletcher not going to WI and some of their key players not going to WI. In any profession preparation is the most important part of completing a task successfully. Cricket is this players' work and their employers, the BCCI, is making it impossible for them to be successful at it.

Posted by ragomsk on (August 8, 2011, 8:01 GMT)

The appointment of Duncan Fletcher and his input has not been discussedl. A person who has worked with the England team for 8 years must have knowledge of the conditions and what it takes to perform in England. I am not talking of the knowledge of the players but playing conditions. English commentators keep saying that Fletcher propogates the idea that if a pace bowler bowls less than 140-159KM/hr he has no place in Test cricket. For Indian cricket conditions this is the wrong approach as they never have had that kind of fast bowlers!! I never agreed to his appointment as he seems to have a bossy attitude and that will not gel with the Indian psyche. The main reason Gary Kirsten was successful was because he gelled with the psyche of the Indian conditions. On another aspect I would like to see Balaji being given a chance. He was good before his serious injury and has now made a great comeback and taking vital wickets for Tamil Nadu.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2011, 7:59 GMT)

I have been an avid cricket follower since my college days and I know the way the cricket games have been evolved since the last two decades or so. Especially, the way the test matches have been transformed. If one carefully looks at the way the test matches have been played, it can easily be understood that the teams competitive edge depends on two things; the team members' fitness and of course their cricketing ability. Meanwhile the cricketing ability may be more or less in parity for all the test playing nations, the fitness level is not so. Therefore, in the coming years, the teams who can churn out test match victories will be the one who maintains their fitness. I suspect, in this front Indian team will be a loser in the coming years!

Posted by RajitD on (August 8, 2011, 7:48 GMT)

Great show. I admire Sambit as much as the other two - Sanjay and Harsha. I think Bhajji's been living on borrowed time for the past few years. His performance - or rather lack of it, on this tour has just brought him into focus.

A point you made about the replacements not being good enough. While Zaheer started off with a bang in Nairobi, he was not a top class bowler till about 2006 or so. He too has evolved into being a world class bowler. Then how can we assume that Unadkat or Umesh Yadav may not make the transition. The only question is how much time are we willing to give a player to make the transition..

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 8, 2011, 5:38 GMT)

I don't buy harsha argument of give extra match practive in alien conditions. Simple reason is money. No return for the money to send players ahead. Instead of sending ahead india may have more streamlined domestic league and training to find reliable backup and reward players for century in winning games. There are incentives to make player play better. Same players fight if there is a money in it. when a guy like dravid sweat it out for century in tough situations , you all talking about sachin useless 50 or his 100s 100 in losing conditions. No one treat the hard working guy well. it is kinda sheep mentality. so to make them work harder , you have to show money for people who make bigger contribution in a winning TEST. Like 5 wickets and century in winning TEST will be rewarded with 100000 dollars. That is it. what is the gurantee even if india had 3 match practice they do same. It will be different highly skilled bowlers in Test matches. Your argument do not hold water.

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 8, 2011, 5:32 GMT)

i normally agree with sanjay straight talk , no one sehwag issue. why india depends on sehwag and why you want to crucify him. Is n't selectors job to find suitable replacement in last 2 month out of 1.3 billion. Selectors made a blunder by not selecting jaffer and dinesh karthik who done great job in last tour to england. Only selectors to be blamed on opening mess. And you need to start taking some truth. Don't put the loss on sehwag. What about other 11 players and big 3?. My issue with india is their inability draw the game because tail start from dhoni when ball swings. Also sanjay say that is all the talent we have. I don't believe that. It is setup issue. Pakistan bring truck load of fast bowlers out of 160 million , why not india find ONE ONE out of 1.3 billion. India need scouting system for finding fast bowlers. You will find 1000s in no time? Why ? Money!. No discrimination. NBA has all black people. No white almost. Americans accept that because they want to see talent.

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