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'England not great, but brilliantly organised'

What can Indian cricket learn from England's rise to No.1? Harsha Bhogle, Lawrence Booth and VB Chandrasekhar discuss (35:13)

Producer: Siddhartha Talya

August 29, 2011

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 30, 2011, 2:57 GMT)

Everyone come with an excuse why india failed and why england did very well. For me india did not have bowlers to remove england tail. And that pressure also added to batsman in a no hope situation. Indians always fail in a situation in that even they make big score they will lose , they basically does opposite and gets bundled out numeous times. India really need one real fast bowler who can knock off the tails. Until then it will be a struggle. I do not think india batsman failed as much as impotency of indian bowling. What england did was they planned for every batsman weakness and remove weaklinks in their bowling. They did not give free run. They made indian earn every run. That made it difficult. India always won games on individual brillance of sehwag and zaheer mostly in recent times. VVS and dravid saved many games. India still have enough fire power in batting , it is that their bowling really exposed when you go with 4 bowlers and lack of all rounder is a headache.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2011, 20:42 GMT)

Well too me this was an under prepared team for seaming conditions. Moreover a No.1 team is required to play well every where we could not do it lets us now see how England fare up. In dust bowl pitches. I don't mind teams working their way using home conditions. But they when they tour on aliens soil how they do then is more important. As spectator and a Indian fan I am really disappointed to see R.P Singh and Munaf Patel drop their pace. The first I saw them on television during New Zealand vs Board President XI they were bowling at 150kmp. Where is VRV Singh? I see a Ashwin and Rahul Sharma as upcoming spinners. I think it will a greater problem to find batsmen of the of Sachin, Rahul or Azhar.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2011, 15:44 GMT)

what is the definition of great??? a team who has stars like tendulkar,dravid, laxman, dhoni, harbhajan and when they ask to perform only one does his best..plz stop it england beat india by 4-0..if india won any match it could be said england are not great..to play for self is not a big ask like tendulkar does.to make team organize and extract result from them is a essential.england beat australia in australia, dominate at home.they have all ingredients to be number one.not like india, their fast hardly fit for entire series,sehwag on and off during fielding,tendulkar is just worried about his century.dravid and dhoni are two men for india who serve a lot.a hype of harbhajan is like a ballon.england have outstanding players KP,Cook, Bell, Trott,Anderson,Swann.I must say its not a matter of management,its first their mental and physical strength which england have,play for country not for personal records.big names cant put u on top,its effort, passion and hardwork,england have all

Posted by CanTHeeRava on (August 29, 2011, 8:47 GMT)

VB Chandrashekhar made the most sensible points of all. The derating of domestic Indian tournaments is a huge issue. Indian talent spotters and selectors have to identify the most promising (test potential) under 20 players and stop them from setting themselves in T-20 mold. Those players have to be told to play 4 day cricket and they must be supported well. Again, Harsha was very cautious when he criticised IPL. While I dislike the concept of T-20, I still support my home IPL team, the Bangalore Royal Challengers because Kumble led them (now he is their mentor) and it still has a few Karnataka players. But, Harsha and co is hung up with emphasizing work ethic. If you don't have people (bench strength) to work for you then what is the point of work ethic?

Posted by BanglaChild on (August 29, 2011, 8:18 GMT)

With all due respect to Mr Booth and The Great Chadrasekhar: Greatness is a function of time. Too early to call England a great team. Organised? Certainly. This series will 'probably' be remembered in the annals of cricket as Aesop's The Tortoise and the Hare Nawab Pataudi Series 2011. India thought were Julius Ceasar veni vidi vici. England were the Gauls. Asterix and Obelix (the two Andrews) blew the day lights out of the Roman Empire. India was not professional. England was 110% professional. That was the difference. Finito

Posted by   on (August 29, 2011, 7:01 GMT)

England is a great team in test cricket but it hasn't been a marvellous team though like Australia, South Africa and once like the West Indies. England should try to bring in players from county cricket instead of focussing too much on Bopara and Patel. Strauss should definitely be brought in for the T20 and ODI as he is a good player in these two formats too like he's in test.

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