India v Sri Lanka, CB series, Hobart

Shastri doesn't quite get the elevation

ESPNcricinfo presents the Plays of the Day from the CB Series ODI between India and Sri Lanka in Hobart

Sidharth Monga at Bellerive Oval

February 28, 2012

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Sachin Tendulkar leaves the field, India v Sri Lanka, CB series, Hobart, February 28, 2012
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The power failure
During the innings break, the power in parts of Bellerive Oval failed, affecting the four light towers, and the TV cameras. Initially they thought of delaying the start of the second innings, but with the natural light staying good the game resumed at the scheduled time, 6:35 pm, even if it meant viewers at home could not watch the first 3.4 overs. The light tower, too, came to life well before natural light faded. Ravi Shastri was a victim too, stuck in a lift throughout the power cut.

Perera's juggling act
The two new-balls rule is not easy to handle. Today, as Thisara Perera was brought into the attack, he took the ball that was used to bowl the previous over. Just before he was about to run in, Simon Taufel intervened and asked him to return Asad Rauf's ball to Rauf. Hopefully they are as vigilant against mixing up balls during rain breaks.

The break before the break
It was 12 minutes before the second drinks break when Kumar Sangakkara hit one with the bottom of his bat. It must have chipped because he asked for another bat. There was some miscommunication, and a wrong set of bats arrived for him. Sangakkara asked for another set, and in the meantime his batting partner Tillakaratne Dilshan asked for some drinks. MS Dhoni did not want to be left behind, and called for a banana. Sachin Tendulkar asked for a drink too. All this 12 minutes before a scheduled break. The bemused umpires stood wondering how the field of cricket turned into a lawless state. About three minutes into it, Simon Taufel finally began walking towards the fielders, and they came back to play.

The miss
Bellerive Oval is not as big as other Australian grounds, but the India fielders still tended to stay in from the rope to prevent the seconds they usually concede. On one such occasion, when Kumar Sangakkara did not get the elevation on an attempted loft, Praveen - already a few yards in - took three steps in and the ball ended up going over his head. Later in the innings he would have two chances for catches running in, but those would evade him too.

The surprise run-out
In the 46th over of the Sri Lankan innings, amid a glut of runs, Sachin Tendulkar's throw caught Thisara Perera on the line. It was against the run of play, and India were not even expecting a wicket when the umpire signalled to the third umpire to adjudicate. The fielders went back to their mark, Dhoni stood ready to keep, Praveen Kumar was ready to bowl, and the big screen said "out". India were too tired to come together and celebrate, and stayed in their places.

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Posted by zico123 on (February 29, 2012, 14:52 GMT)

Kohli should tell himself he has the potential to be the best ODI and Test player in the world, he should show the same to the world

Posted by DilumSL on (February 29, 2012, 10:54 GMT)

As a sri lankan fan i really wanted our team to win last game. but i still i enjoyed the second inning specially by kholi. Now i really want to see india and sri lanka in finals. but it's too late for that :( BTW this is the best series i've seen for a very long time

Posted by SudheerPusuluri on (February 29, 2012, 8:42 GMT)

why are there no plays from second Innings..why can't they be added to the first innings' plays..common Cricinfo

Posted by Balumekka on (February 29, 2012, 7:30 GMT)

I'm a Sri Lankan fan, but that does not prevent me to enjoy one of the best innings I have ever seen, played by Kohli. My goodness, this guy seem to be having all the talent in this world!!! Its very nice to see our neighbors lift their standards at the very crucial moment. This CB series has turned out to be a very interesting one with some good cricket being played!

Posted by iyers on (February 29, 2012, 6:39 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by crickeyt on (February 29, 2012, 1:48 GMT)

@Sid Monga: did you not watch the second half of the game or what? It would seem reading your "plays" that nothing out of the ordinary happened during India's batting!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 22:50 GMT)

Pity the power came back on....should have left Ravi Cliche in the lift!

Posted by Unmesh_cric on (February 28, 2012, 21:53 GMT)

That power failure seems like a conspiracy against Ravi Shastri :-)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 20:27 GMT)

India now moves to second on the table - equal on points with Sri Lanka but above them given their better head-to-head record.

So, if Australia beat SL on Friday, India will qualify though SL may have better run rate.

Posted by abiindia on (February 28, 2012, 20:02 GMT)

it is very sad, srilanka have four finals in one tournamant. today with india, and again with aus, and in two real finals to get a cup. very sorry state.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

@suve Not only did you not read the rules, but you don't know to calculate the run rate either!! :P If Australia score 400 batting first, and SL are bowled out for 100 in reply, SL's run rate drops to -0.66229, and not -0.23109. Maybe you didn't even read the rule regarding run rate: "In the event of a team being all out in less than its full quota of overs, the calculation of its net run rate shall be based on the full quota of overs to which it would have been entitled and not on the number of overs in which the team was dismissed."

Posted by Ultimate_Cricket on (February 28, 2012, 17:41 GMT)

Well... I'm sure Sri Lanka will win on friday and go to finals. Anyway this is the only chance that IND fans got to write blistering comments... enjoy guys!!! but not after Friday. One last thing..... Suddenly IND fans realized that they won last WC.... :) :) :)

Posted by arreyyaar1 on (February 28, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

Haha @ Vaidyar - "Shastri and "something's gotta give soon". So funny - made me laugh out.

Posted by Simmy567 on (February 28, 2012, 17:02 GMT)

I must say that everyone is being extremely harsh to suve, the poor guy made a mistake.......everyone does....

Posted by suve on (February 28, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

@Doconcall: Lol haha, If I made this comment on twitter I probably would have been more famous the Virat Kohli. Sorry again for this guys. I should have taken more time to look at the rules rather than working out the NRR.

Posted by Jathie on (February 28, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

@Suve - The tournament rules are different. In the event that 2 teams end up with same points, the team with most of number of wins against each other qualifies. In this case India has most number of wins against SL and if SL lose to Australia, then India will qualify. NRR will come into picture only when number of wins are also same. So you should now pray that SL should win and Indians would pray that SL should lose. either ways, hope we have good cricket.

Posted by shashankkrishnan on (February 28, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

Shastri in the elevator 1. When the lights went out: "Hope this doesn't go down like a tracer bullet"

2. During the power outage: "It isn't over until the last switch is turned off"

3. After the lights came back on: "At the end of the day, electricity is the winner".

Posted by Master_Mihil on (February 28, 2012, 15:49 GMT)

Funny how india save all the fireworks all to beat Srilanka. Are we that much of a threat lol! If not for the incipid performances of indian team. This would have been an Asian contest. Savour while it lasts indians. Nobody's hero at Hobart. Whatever happens Sunday see you at Asia Cup. On the other hand i love this SL team, but we need better bowlers who don't crumble under pressure. And remember you can't bat india out, You have bowl,Bounce, and field india out. really good lesson to SL team.

Posted by ProdigyA on (February 28, 2012, 15:35 GMT)

Malinga raped, butchered and burried by Kohli. You could tell Malinga lost it.

Posted by PiyushD on (February 28, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

poor suve, everyone one out to explain him the rules, guys before that he already posted that he saw the rules later.

Posted by bhatta on (February 28, 2012, 14:44 GMT)

@suve....u have become a STAR....!!!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

@Kasun Talwatta and all those anti-Indian 'fans' . REMEMBER PAKISTAN 92 WC, SIMILAR STORY. You beat India without Dhoni and that actually was a big hole ,that tied match hurt both teams , Sri got ONLY 237 there, not a great performance is it. well done for performace vs aussies though they were shocking last friday.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

guys.... chill... suve has miscalculated NRR as well. His calculation is wrong..... he missed out to add 50 overs in denominators .... any ways NRR will not be used at the first case.

Posted by Ashoo780 on (February 28, 2012, 14:12 GMT)

@suve, Man look how many replies you have received today for your single comment. :D

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 14:08 GMT)

I am sad that Malinga missed out his "ton" for just 4 runs!

Posted by Doconcall on (February 28, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

At this point, Suve is more famous than Virat Kohli. HA HA!!

Posted by indian84 on (February 28, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

Qualification in case of tie in points is based on the below conditions:

1. The team with the most number of wins 2. If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3. If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4. If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate .

In that case, if SL loses next match against Aus, then India will go to Finals (point 2), as India has already defeated SL twice in the series so far.

Posted by vaidyar on (February 28, 2012, 13:57 GMT)

Wonder if Shastri got the "feeling that something's gotta give here" when stuck in the lift! Scary thought for the occasion.

Posted by PPD123 on (February 28, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

Kohli's knock was an absolute master class. Dont understand why Ind has to be pushed to the wall to produce such results. To all my Srilankan friends, SL will qualify for the finals if they beat Aus or their match is tied or abandoned. If they lose IND will straight away qualify for the finals, pls note that the primary criteria for qualification for Final is "wins against team tied on points". In this case Ind has won 2, SL 1 and 1 was tied. So Ind will go thru irrespective of NRR. Only if SL win against Aus they qualify for the finals automatically and we can end all the debate. All the best for Friday.

Posted by sdeepakyadav on (February 28, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

*The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by digitux on (February 28, 2012, 13:48 GMT)

India have a better chance of qualifying given that the critieria are: > The team with the most number of wins > If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins > If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points > If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

If NRR had been then condition, India were pathetically falling short.

Posted by bighit14 on (February 28, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

As per the rules for this series most wins between the teams comes ahead of the Net run rate in case of a tie. So India will qualify based on 2-1 record against SL if Oz wins

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

@dilshan... the rules of the tournament doesn't include run rate.... if two teams are same on points then the team which has one more matches against eash other will move through

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:44 GMT)

@Suve its not based on NRR. its based on head2head match results between the tied teams.

Posted by PB1702 on (February 28, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

hey guyz....plz chk out d tournament rules...its sayn dat if 2 teams stands in same no. of points...den whoever won more matches against each other ll play d finals....so only, v hv to pray dat Australia beat Srilanka in thr next match...India ll cruise to finals automatically coz India has beaten Srilanka 2 times out of 4...n 1 tie...so its 2-1 to India...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

By Net runrate Sri Lanka is better off than India now. But i heard in Cricket Extra the reason for why the next match is a do or die situation for Sri Lanka. Currently India and Sri Lanka have the same points. But between these two teams India won more matches 2-1 against sri lanka in the league matches. Hence if Sri Lanka were to loose next match India is through to the final. Tie or win on part of Sri Lanka will take them to final.

Posted by suve on (February 28, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

Oh sorry guys, I really should have looked at the rules, and all that work to find the NRR has gone to waste. May the better team win in the next match.

Posted by apurav_jain on (February 28, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

i think last incidence was due to over rate and due to exhaustion of players ...sad

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:33 GMT)

all india need to qualify for finals is a little help from australia guys.no way the runrate is going to come as a barrier. if australia beats srilanka india will qualify.

Posted by Kumar_cricket on (February 28, 2012, 13:32 GMT)

If both the teams are tied up in same points, The team which have more win count in the premilanaries between the two teams will go through the finals.Currently India is 2-1 with srilanka on head-to-head in the premilanaries.

Posted by Ravi2605 on (February 28, 2012, 13:31 GMT)

Suve: You need to check the qualification rules. Net Run Rate has no value now

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:29 GMT)

@Dilshan Fernando @suve guess u are not following the series as close as u could have. If teams have equal points, qualifying works the following way 1.Team with most wins (if still same) 2.Team with most wins in the head to head matches between two teams (... ) 3.Team with max bonus point (... ) 4.Team with max net run rate.(read this @suve net run rate has absolutely no effect whatsoever.) Based on the present condition, if Sl loses, both Sl and Ind remain on same points and (1) is nullified as both teams have 3 wins and (2) comes into act which means Ind will march into the finals courtesy beating Sl 2-1(1 match tied). So, Sl needs to beat or atleast tie the last match Vs Aus to reach the finals.

Posted by ace2rck on (February 28, 2012, 13:26 GMT)

IF SL LOOSES THEIR NEXT MATCH AND HAS A BETTER RUN RATE THAN INDIA,STILL INDIA WILL GO THROUGH TO THE FINAL,BECAUSE INDIA HAS BEATEN SL TWICE COMPARED TO SL BEATING INDIA ONCE IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN,SO ITS A MUST WIN MATCH FOR SL IRRESPECTIVE OF RUN RATE OR THEY NEED TO TIE THE MATCH AND WILL BE AHEAD WITH POINTS.EVEN THOUGH I SUPPORT INDIA I HOPE THE BEST TEAM GO THROUGH TO THE FINALS,IF SL ARE ABLE TO WIN THE NEXT MATCH THEN THEY REALLY DESERVE TO BE IN THE FINALS AND WILL HAVE A PSYCHOLOGICAL ADVANTAGE OVER AUSSIES.............

Posted by ganesh_upt_cric on (February 28, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

So if SL lose India will Qualify....

Posted by gthomson on (February 28, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

if srilanka loses its enough, india will qualify. becoz head 2 head against srilanka we lead 2-1. net run rate will not cum into play

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

@Suve u simply did all the hard work in calculating the NRR the road to final is thus:If still equal(points), the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins .So if Sl loses against Aus...it's all but bye bye for them...btw Virat wadda playa!!!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

Actually if SL lose to Aussies in the next match then india and SL will be both with equal points and equal wins. Then the head to head wins will be checked according to cricinfo in which Ind won 2 against SL whereas SL won only one against India. Thats how india will be through to the finals

Posted by Jayadheer on (February 28, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

The criterion to get into the finals if both the teams have same points is this:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Which means if srilanka loses next match, india will definitely get into finals.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

suve... we beat u twice.. so good chance that we go thru

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

@Suve, please check the rules, if 2 teams are tied on points, the one which has a better head-to-head record quailfies, so if SL loses to Australia, India would go forward since it has edged SL 2-1 ( one tie). NRR is uesd only as a last resort if other hurdles don't break the tie.

Posted by gokrish on (February 28, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

@suve the finalists are gonna be selected on the basis of head to head record not net run rate.if sri lanka lose agains t australia then india and srilanka will have same no of points but india defeated sri lanka twice in this series while srilanka has defeated india only once so india goes through due to better head to head results

Posted by sdeepakyadav on (February 28, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

*The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by Mudhalvan_Indian on (February 28, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

Lots of ppl r having having doubts regarding India's qualification to finals and let me make it clear. If SL lose its next match against AUS, IND & SL will be tied with 15 points each & IND gets qualified for the finals automatically by virtue of its head-head result against SL in this series(which is 2-1). The NRR will not even be considered(NRR will be considered only if head-head result is also tied). Anyother result other than a AUS win(like match abandoned due to rain (or) tie) SL gets qualified by virtue of its points. Hope this is clear.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

People should know that the rules in this tournament states "if two teams are tied on points then the team that has won more matches against the other team will qualify" so India have defeated SL twice while SL have done it only once with 1 match rained out. So IND will qualify if SL lose against AUS

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

STOP talking about Net run rate... First go and check the rules on how to get qualified for the Finals in this series.. lol.. If Srilanka loose next match, then India will be in finals irrespective of net run rate

Posted by Habi on (February 28, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

@suve: Tournament rules state that when there will be a tie between two teams on points then the team with most number of wins against each other (head to head) will qualify. Hence in 4 matches between SL/IND - Ind have won 2 and SL won 1 and IND will qualify for final if SL lose to AUS in last match. In all probability SL will win against AUS in last match considering their current form.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

net run rate will not come into play.. because india has defeated sri lanka twice in the league matches.. tht will be given the priority.

Posted by sai.blore on (February 28, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Since the First option equals, the second option comes into play where India has won twice over srilanka and hence goes to Finals

Posted by Anoop_KV on (February 28, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

@Dilshan Fernando and @suve, run rate is not the next "elimination critirea" in this series. The team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins will qualify. In this case, India is 2-1 up on Sri Lanka.

Posted by hemanth007 on (February 28, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

Sri Lanka in a must win situation now............according to the cb series rules.,if two teams are tied at same points ,the net runrate will only come into picture if the teams tied at points have beaten each other equla times.....so india gets the bonus here as they have beaten sri lanka twice ...and sri lanka have beaten them once.......so sri lanka have to win to qualify...........if there is tie ,wash out then sri lanka will qualify..........so should be a cracker of a match......as australia would also like to beat the lankans as they have already beaten them twice in a row..............

Posted by madhusr on (February 28, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

See the rules guys... In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by peeyushmehta on (February 28, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

Net run rate is inconsequential as India is better than SL one on one (rule #1 for this series) If SL loses to Australia, India qualifies

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

@ suve: well india will automatically qualify if sri lanka loses the next match. both the teams will be on 15 points (in that case)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins (between the two teams on same points i.e. India and Sri Lanka since india have won more times against sri lanka in this series so they will automatically qualify if sri lanka loses against australia.)

Posted by qutees on (February 28, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

@suve - the NRR's are considered last. India goes through as they have more wins against Sri Lanka. Sorry...

Posted by me.teamindia on (February 28, 2012, 13:16 GMT)

@suve & @dilshan fernando: according to the rules of this series, if two teams are tied up in points..their record against each other in this tournament is taken.. as every one knows...ind won 2 & lanka won 1 & 1 was tied...so if lanka lose the next match...india will go through to the final... Check out the link http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:16 GMT)

@ SUVE In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

- The team with the most number of wins - If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins - If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points - If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

1) The team with the most number of wins 2) If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

because of 1) india will go thru if srilanka looses on 2nd march.

Posted by kktsi1425 on (February 28, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

Mr. Suve please see this link http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Here you can see that team abt how teams get selected for final

Posted by shrey.drock on (February 28, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

Doesn't matter whatever the run rate be.....the rules of the series are which team has won more number of matches against the other in case of point clash....since india has won 2 games against SL and lost 1 so if srilanka loses to australia irrespective of the run rate INDIA GETS THROUGH.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

I am now an Australian fan for next 4 days - Indian fan

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

@suve.....its not the run rate that takes India to finals, if Srilanka lose. It is the no of win head to head in the series. India is leading Srilanka 2-1

Posted by RTR160 on (February 28, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

What a Fantastic chase by India..... Kudos to All top 5 batsmen... Especially for Virat for his wonderful innings ..Hope sriLanka will lose against Aussies in the upcoming match

Posted by da_lowrider on (February 28, 2012, 13:14 GMT)

@ Suve: n the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by Imran1184 on (February 28, 2012, 13:14 GMT)

@ Dilshan Fernando and All SriLankan fans...

Here's the news for you guys.. Net rate doesn't count if SriLanka loses against Aussies. Sri Lanka vs India head to head in this series(2-1) in favour of India so India automatically qualifies for final .. if srilanka loses

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:14 GMT)

informatin-- in these series net run rate is not the factor to select the best of two teams with same point teams but win in head to head matches in these way india won 2 against srilanka but srilanka only won one match against india so india will qualify for final if australia beat srilanka by any margin since net run rate is not the factor to choose best team in these series as experimented by australian board so hope that australia beat srilanka.......................................................... we indians really proved today we are workd champions so never take team india lightly kholi was mindblowing bye bye..........

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:14 GMT)

Folks all of you need to understand that how India will qualify for the final,Having won today 's match hands down with the bonus point India and SL have ended up on the same points with SL still having a better NRR.Now the situation is if SL beat Aus in the next match then they are strait away thru 2 the final.but if they lose any which way, then India will qualify bcos Ind has beaten SL twice in the league games which will b the first criteria considered .Hope all of you have got the funda.So dont bother calc the NRR.cheers

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Sri Lankan fans are just missing the plot... The fact that India have defeated Lankans in the 2 matches out of 3 hence, hence on the basis of this fact NET RUNRATE becomes futile... They may have a run rate of 1 Trillion but if they lose their next match they would be chucked out of the tournament...!!! So, it's everything or nothing for them..!!!!

Having said that it was once in a lifetime match and absolutely incredible inning from VK...!!!

Posted by srikinfo on (February 28, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Good work Suve. Congrats on your ability to do basic math. Unfortunately, India has a better head-to-head, and apparently that is what will decide who goes through.

So if i were you, i would still be hoping for Sri Lanka to pull of a victory

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

mr suve,u have worked out everything wrong..net run rate is no more in the picture as india has defeated sri lanka twice and sri lanka has defeated india only once with a tie...soif aus wins against lanka ,india is through....as simple as that...please get your facts correct,before posting...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

@ Dilshan Fennando I already reply your question when i answer to suve about this

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

Net run rate doesn't matter here :-

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

> The team with the most number of wins > If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins > If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points > If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by ks9290 on (February 28, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

@suve and Dilshan Fernando, The laws of the series say that if two teams have same points, then their head to head in the tournament is the first criteria to decide their positions and India have 2 wins against Lanka's 1. The NRR is the second criteria and it is a lower prefernece. So that makes the match against Aussies a must win game for Lanka.

Posted by ruffry on (February 28, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

Guys IT's NT ABT D "NET RUNRATE"............ accrding to rule if two teams finish on equal points then followinf RULES will be in effect -

1) The team with the most number of wins

2) If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins

3) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points

4) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

So if SriLanka losses to Australia ,then inspite of hving more NRR than INDIA they will b out of d CB SERIES :) :D

Check dis out.......http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by 11trumpcards on (February 28, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

@suve

Its not depends on Net run rate. we are ahead in head to had with srilanka in league matches.

Posted by Thisaras on (February 28, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

@suve and all other who talks about the NRR. In a triangular series, if two teams are on equal points head-tp-head record in the tournament is considered before the NRR. So, if SL and IND end up with equal points, India will go to finals having beaten Sri Lanka twice.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

@suve Dear Suve, i think u had not read properly the rules to qualify for the final in case of points are equal of two teams. The team who has more wins against each other will qualify for the finals and not the team who has more net run rate. so India has 2-1 record against sri lanka. Thats why my dear friend, if sri lanka loose against australia, india will go into final.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

@suve srilankan Fan & Dilshan Fernando. India NRR might be low but when it comes to qualifying for finals the criterion is the number of matches teams have won against each other which at the moment is in indias favour (2-1). If equal victories then only NRR comes intp picture.. cheers

Posted by heshy44 on (February 28, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

@suve India will go through if they end up on even points as they first look at the head-to-head ratio between the 2 teams which in this case is 2-1 (plus a tie) in India's favour. Net run rate is a last resort

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

why everyone here talking about net run rate. there is no issue of run rate. if srilanka loses then india goes through ( Reason:Indians have two wins against lankans )

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

lolmax @suve " I don't understand why no one worked this out" hahahah

you see, this particular series is going to count head to head wins, before going on to NRR. india-SL head to head is 2-1 in india's favour...

Dont be smug, do your homework man

Posted by SVIJAYARAO on (February 28, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

SriLanka has to win the next match to go to final. If both the teams end up with same points, the team with most wins against each other in the tournament will go to the finals, which in this case is India

Posted by raja9787 on (February 28, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

@suve and all other Srilankan fans: just for your info, In this tournament, if two teams are tied with same points (India and Srilanka in this case provides SL lose to Aus), NRR wont be considered second for deciding who goes into final. First thing which would be considered is, amongst these two teams, which one has won more matches against the other, which is India (India won 2 against SL, 1 Tied and Sl won 1 against India). So wins matters before NRR !!

Posted by kaydee.91 on (February 28, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

@suve -i must say u wasted ur time in calculation... first criteria is head to head wins...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

For those wondering about net run rate etc http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable explains it all.... net run rate is the last criteria....

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

@suve (Sri Lankan Fan)

check this link: http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: 1. The team with the most number of wins 2. If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3. If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4. If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Pint No: 2, India beat SL 2 times while SL beat Ind once...

That answers your question

Posted by BalG on (February 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

@suve- Hey man, come on... If Sri Lanka lose next match, surely india will get into the finals. Directly they wont check the NRR. First they ll check who has won in head-on-head in this series. In four matches, India have won it by 2-1 with one match tied. Second they ll check for bonus points and then only NRR. So Its INDIA, if SRI LANKA lose their next match !

Posted by satish619chandar on (February 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

@girikula : Guys like u r always opn winning side.. If India loses, celebrate it.. If India wins, get with this viewership and crowd thing.. If that is the case, why should India lose at all? Indian fans ll enjoy abroad wins in tests too.. Please dont disrespect the effort the guys put on the field..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

@ Dilshan if SL lose to AUS ...... no matter the run rate since india has 2-1 was against SL they will go to the finals.....

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

@suve: hello.. Australian conditions are different.. Net run rate is second criteria.. No. of Head to Head win stands first for CB series..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:08 GMT)

@Suve it looks like you did not understand the concept this tournament . it is not based on the net run rate , net run rate will come into picture only if the two team with the same number wins over EACH OTHER . But here india has won 2 against sri lanka but they managed win only 1 that means that if australia beat Sri lanka in the last league match since india have won 2 matches over sri lanka, india will qualify for the finals , hope this helps

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:07 GMT)

In this tournament NET RUN rate is considered only Last . in head to head India is 2-1 ahead of Lanka. So if SriLanka lose to Australia, New run rate is not taken into account.

Posted by the_dust_bowl on (February 28, 2012, 13:07 GMT)

Well, Mr. Abdullah

He must have felt safe as he wouldnt have had to face embarassing comments about Indian teams performance.

Iam sure he would have been betting to himself on whether India would be 7 down or 8 down by the time he got out of the lift :)

Cheers

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:07 GMT)

It's not about the NRR. If after next match SL and IND are on same points. India will go through because because according to rules of this series 1st Total points is compared which are equal. 2nd Total Wins which will again be equal. 3rd Most wins over other; over which india leads 2-1

So, India Needs SL to lose; how close that might be. SL needs not to lose. Even a tie or No Match will take them through

INDIA FAN :)

Posted by IndianNeo on (February 28, 2012, 13:07 GMT)

@ suve - you are wasting a lot of time,

India are not yet in the final. A Sri Lankan win, or a tie, or a wash-out in the final league game will take Sri Lanka ahead of India on points. If Australia win that match, India will go through though they are tied with SL on points. India are 2-1 up on SL on head-to-head now, with one tie.

Posted by srikanth35297 on (February 28, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

@suve:net runrate is the last factor in deciding the finalists. india has won 2 of its encounters aginst SL and SL just one among the 4 encounters against them. if sl just loses against aus india will go through. So its do or die for SL

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

@suve and @Dilshan Fernando, Please check the 1st over commentary of today's match: "A reminder that this tournament's playing conditions gives precedence to head-to-heads ahead of NRR. If India win today with a bonus point, they will tie SL on points and be 2-1 on the head-to-head"

Posted by crazyworldthis on (February 28, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

@suve : I would give you the mathematicians award, only this will not be decided by run rate. In the event of SL losing against AUS, India will go through on the basis of more wins against SL - 2 wins and a tie in favour of India

Posted by Rohit_CheerIndia on (February 28, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

@ Suve : Man when it comes down to the same point then in this tournament preference will be given to the matches teams have won among them , like if India and Sri lanka have same points then first it will be checked which team has won more matches between them over the run rate, and india have won 2 against Sri lanka as compared to 1 of Sri lanka . That's why everybody is hopeful of india making it to the Finals , Sri lanka need to beat Australia now to be in the Finals.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

Because in case of both teams having the same points, the team that goes through to the final is not decided on net run rate. For this series, the team with the better head to head result will go through. So if Sri Lanka loses against Australia, they'll remain on 15 points, which means that having lost 2 and won 1 game against India, they're worse off on the head to head results. Which means India will go through.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

Great Knock by the most consistent Batsmen for India in Australia

Posted by raja9787 on (February 28, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

@suve and all other Srilankan fans: just for your info, In this tournament, if two teams are tied with same points (India and Srilanka in this case provided SL lose to Aus), NRR wont be the first one to be considered for deciding who goes into final. First thing which would be considered is, amongst these two teams, which one has won more matches against the other, which is India (India won 2 against SL, 1 Tied and Sl won 1 against India). So no. wins against the other matters before NRR !!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

I am amazed to people watching this tournament without looking at the rules... If Sri Lanka loses against Australia, India will be in the finals...

Had India won against them instead of that tie, India could have qualified for finals easily.

Posted by sag_de on (February 28, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

@ suve india still has a chance even though our NRR would be way less than srilanka is coz of the series rules which are as follows. In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

*The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

Good work by team India.To those people calculating NRR, the CB series rule is number of wins if two teams are on the same points. So, if Aus wins against SL in the next match, India with 2-1 record against SL will go to finals without having to worry about NRR.

Posted by DineshAnand on (February 28, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

@suve,Its not based on RUN RATE. If 2 teams are level points in CB series ,First rule is based on head to head between teams and not runrate. India are 2-1 up on SL on head-to-head now, with one tie. tats y if Aus win Srilanka,India wil qualify. Please check the rules before posting.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

Dear Sri Lankan Fan and others who have doubts regarding which team will reach the finals, read this - In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

those asking as to how india can still qualify, have a look at the qualification rules for the finals.It states: If two teams end up with equal points, following will be applicable: 1. Team with most wins 2. in case point 1 doesn't decide, then the team which has won most matches against the other will go through. So as per the 2nd point, india has beaten SL twice out of 4 and lost 1 and 1 tie... As such evn thgh india has a poorer runrate, thy will qualify if SL loose to Aus !

Posted by cpk80 on (February 28, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

@SUVE, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NET RUN RATE AS FIRST CRITERIA FOR THE FINAL IS "WINS AGAINST THE TEAM HAVING EQUAL POINTS.." SO IT'S MUST WIN GAME FOR SRILANKA AGAINST AUSSIES.. OTHERWISE INDIA WILL QUALIFY AS THEY HAVE WON 2 GAMES AND SRILANKA HAS 1. AND THAT'S HOW INDIA WILL QUALIFY FOR THE FINALS IF SRILANKA LOSS AGAINST AUSTRALIA.

Posted by meetinagirish on (February 28, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

those who are thinking abt the run rate case, just see the rules in points table.........run rate option will be used as the last option

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

@ suve If Aus wins d next match against SL, then SL n India will be having equal points.. The one which have max wins among the two playing against each other ll go thru to the finals.. India have 2 wins against SL ,so v'll be moving to d finals if SL loses..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

@suve dats bcoz the rules of the tournament giv importance to 'Head-to-head' than NRR. India leads Sri Lanka 2-1 in dat...and dat why no one's been talking about NRR.

Posted by kaydee.91 on (February 28, 2012, 13:01 GMT)

no need of net runrate...:D

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:01 GMT)

Also Mr.suve-they consider head to head first-then NRR-check the main article of cricinfo which mentions that SL have to beat Aus to knock Ind out

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:01 GMT)

@suve, India can qualify only if SL loose to AUS at any case. because NRR will not be accounted. The SL/IND clash head to head is 2-1 (one tie) and that can lead INDIA to Final.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:01 GMT)

NRR is not the first criteria which decides which team qualifies to the finals, if 2 teams are on equal points, but it is the number of wins in the tournament and if that is same, the number of wins against the team on equal points and then the if this is same then NRR comes into play. In this case if Sri Lanka loses to Australia, then India will go through as it has won 2 matches against Sri Lanka's 1 match Head-to-Head

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

Suve.. you should have checked the rules before you Worked out the Net Run Rate.... as per the rules the team which has more wins against the other would go through the final, in case of equal points... and in this series India has defeated Srilanka Twice against once... So in this case IF srilanka losses to Aus then India would go to final

Posted by nitinkhush on (February 28, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

Dear Suve as per the rules of the tournament when 2 teams are on the same points than for qualication first the results between the two will be considered......so INDIA with 2 wins and one loss against SRI LANKA will go through to the FINAL.......in the event of SRI LANKAN loss to AUSTRALIA...........:)

Posted by ShanthanReddy on (February 28, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

It is not the NRR that is the first criteria here. It is the head-to-head record. India leads SL by 2-1 in the series with another being drawn. Had it been 2-2 in 4 matches, then SL would have already gone thru.

Posted by iyers on (February 28, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

To whomsoever it may concern:

The NRR (Net Run Rate) will not be considered as in Australia the Wins are the first Priority. At this moment India is Leading with 2 -1 (They played 4 against each other with 1 Tie). So if SL lose against Aus. Its Aus V/s Indians.

Thank You.

Posted by nagw on (February 28, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

Hello suve, India qualifying for finals does not depend on net RR by India or SL As India have own 2 matches 1 tie 1 lost against SL, India will automatically qualify for finals agains Aus. If SL loses against AUS, then both Ind and SL would be with 15 points, but as India has max wins against SL, India will qualify

now the equation is simple, if SL wins, they will qualify for finals if loses India will qualify

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

@suve its not about net runrate its about the number of wins against sri lanka which is considered and now we india have 2 wins 1 tie and 1 defeat so if sri lanka loses the match against australia india will qualify

Posted by RDR2727 on (February 28, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

@ Suve.. The net run rate doesn't count!. If Aus win the next match against the Lankans, then India would go into the finals as NRR IS NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. Head on India Vs Srilanka Matches IS WHAT IS TAKEN and India Vs Lanka is 2 against 1. ( India and Lanka have faced off 4 times in the CB series.. where India have won 2, lost 1 and drawn 1.) So india would go into the finals! Get it?

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:59 GMT)

@suve

I think you are mistaken, you see net run rate won't factor in period. India and Sri Lanka would have won the same number of matches in the event that the Australians win in the final league match. However, India would have won more matches against Sri Lanka which is ranked higher in the qualification rules, so the bottom line is this. SL win then they qualify. SL lose, then India qualifies.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

@ suve

there is no need to calculate net run rate............india is 2-1 ahead of srilanga in leauge matches............so if aus beat srilanka than INDIA ARE IN FINALS...............NO NET RUN RATE CALCULATIONS.....................

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

hahahahahahah @suve great calculation mate..congrats ..but according to the rules of this series , in case of same points it will be decided by how the teams performed head to head..so in that matter india will be ahead(2 wins 1 loss 1 tie).. net run rate is the next criteria. good luck Srilanka.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

irrespective of run rate, india will go into final if srilanka loses against aussies in last match of series. Aussies will have to win the final game if they want to keep their confidence high in finals. I guess it will be india and aus in finals, aussies winning brisbane and India to smash them in last 2..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

Those who are worried about India's low net run rate, please note that as per the format of this series, in case of equal points, the team who has beaten the other team in the league matches more times will qualify to the finals. India has beaten Srilanka on more occassions so if Australia beats Srilanka, irrespective of its low net run rate, India will qualify.

Posted by gavinfrank on (February 28, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

Guys, if sri lanka lose to australia , they are out of the series .... PERIOD. Why all this talk of net run rate ???? please read the rules of the tournament properly. if Aus beat sri lanka, india and sri lanka will both be on 15 pts but because india have beaten sri lanka 2 times in the league stages as opposed to losing only once , India will be ahead of sri lanka .........so stop all this talk of net run rate......GO INDIA GO........

Posted by Muddhulu on (February 28, 2012, 12:57 GMT)

In response to Suve's comment on net run rate, I believe if Sri Lanka lose the final game against Aussies, India would go into the finals even if Sri Lanka's net run rate might end up higher. India would have won one more game than Sri Lanka that gets them through.

Posted by Pradeep1386 on (February 28, 2012, 12:57 GMT)

@Suve... The calculation of net run rate is the last of the requirements in case of a tie in points , if after friday game , if India and Sri Lanka are with 15 points with three wins each, but India will have a 2-1 lead in their head-to-head against Sri Lanka, which, according to the rules of this tournament, will take precedence over the net run rate. So India qualifies for finals...

Posted by EddieBhai on (February 28, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

@suve - it don't matter brother, as India are 2-1 up (head to head) in the CB series against Lanka. You could've saved yourself 3 hours of doing that math ;-)

Bottom line - an Aussie win next makes it an Ind-Aus final!! Yeah!!!!!

Posted by kaydee.91 on (February 28, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

net runrate is not the criteria in this series...first criteria is more wins in head to head matches...which now india has two vs lanka's 1...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

When i heard that 320 was the target. I thought it was a hard enough target and winning it in 40 overs.I thought it was impossible.But when i saw the news i was absolutely shocked but really awesome chase.Should have seen it but was watching BPL which by the way wasn't bad either.Saw a kholi type hitting from shehzad.A pakistani by the way.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

@suve . . The second finalist will not be decided based on run rates mate.. If srilanka loses the nxt game, the head-on ratio between India and srilanka will be India 2 SL 1 and Tie 1. India will qualify on a better win/loss ratio against SL. Unfortunately Its not the NRR this tym :(

Posted by HariUSA on (February 28, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

If SL lose next match to Aus, then India will go into the finals because India won more matches (2) against SL. NRR will calculate only when both the teams are won same number of matches against each other.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

@Fast_Track_Bully - Mate are you for real ? How do you define the losses you guys had in the last few matches apart from this terrific match. Still a fluke you say ?

Posted by the_dust_bowl on (February 28, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

Suve, Dilshan et al

It does not boil to net run rate in this case. If Srilanka loses, india go through to finals by virtue of beating srilanka more times in the league phase. Period.

Cheers

Posted by paranitharan on (February 28, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

Mr.suve please note this,

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: *The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by indianvirgoguy on (February 28, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

To people who are in doubt coz of Sri Lanka's NRR still being greater thn India. In case of both team are tied at the same points firstly the results of the games between the two teams is taken into account & the NRR is the second criteria. So in this case India & SL have played 4 matches, 2 being won by India, 1 by SL & 1 was tied. So NRR will not come into the picture, had both India & SL won 2 matches each NRR wud have come into play.

Posted by kartikeysoni on (February 28, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

@suve, please go back and read the playing condition for the triseries it says that in case of equal points team with more head to head win will go through in fact NRR is some 4th point to break the tie in this series but dont feel bad even indian team did not knew it till the end of last match :)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

@suve:the NRR if SL are bowled out is taken as 50 and not as 20 while chasing-thats why NRR could still make a difference!

Posted by Retired_Cricket_Fan on (February 28, 2012, 12:53 GMT)

Hi, Would like to clarify the rules of the tournament for the benefit of everyone. If Aus beats SL, then India and SL would be tied on points. As per the rules of the tournament, in case of tie, whosover has more wins in the tournament, would qualify. However, India and SL would be tied on total wins as well. Then, whosover has higher number of wins in Ind Vs SL encounters would win. Hence, India would qualifiy as India has beaten Sri Lanka more than they have lost. Had we still been tied, then whosover had higher bonus points would have gone through. And if still tied, then the net run rate would come into place. For fans who already knew this -- hope I have not taken your precious time away!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@Dilshan Fernando and suve, as per the playing conditions of this tounament, following are the parameters used (in the order) in case of teams ending up on same number of points - number of bonus points obtained, number of wins against the tied teams, net run rate. Ind and SL have same number of bonus points but India has 2 wins against SL while SL has just 1. In that count India will be qualified ahead of SL

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

Suve, I thought you have not gone through the rules of this series....your mathematics would work for some other series but not for this one...

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by TheMysteryMan on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@suve Because despite the worse run rate, India will qualify for final if Sri Lanka looses. This triangular series rules are different. If two teams are tied at equal points, their 1 on 1 record will count first. India has beaten Lanka twice, 1 game was tied and 1 was lost. So India will go through. Had it been 2-2, then net run rate would have come into picture. So Sri Lanka must win against Australia to qualify.

Posted by the_silent_observer on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@Suve - the rules for this series are NOT the ones we are used to. In the case of 2 teams tying at points, it is not the NRR (net run rate) that is taken into account, but the head-to-head wins. IF Sri Lanka wins against Australia, then it qualifies on account of points. But if it loses, then it is tied up on points with India and India will qualify because it has won 2 games, while Sri Lanka has won only 1 game, against each other

Posted by grk1984 on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@suve ... According the below rules ....

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

If Oz defeats SL ... then India will go into the finals .. as it defeated SL 2 times in this series ... 2 wins, 1 loss and a tie ....

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@suve net runrate dosen't matter in this tournament cause in this tournament rule was predecided as: 1. The team with the most number of wins 2.If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3.If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4.If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by tarun576 on (February 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

its not about the net run rate.if AUS beats SL in the next match then IND & SL will have equal no. of points.In that case it will come down to who has won more matches when they played against each other.IND has the advantage here having won 2 out of 4 where SL has only won 1,1has been tied. Thats why if SL loose to AUS in last league match they are out of the CB series.Net run rate is irrelivent

Posted by gkpit on (February 28, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

For this series, head to head count comes first before net run rate, so sl lose to aus, since ind's win count is 2-1 so ind automatically goes to final.

Posted by cris89 on (February 28, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

@Dilshan, @suve: Net Run Rate does NOT matter. India's record against SL is 2-1 in this series. Hence, if both teams stay on 15 points, India will go through due to their better head-on-head record. SL need a win or a tie against Australia.

Posted by SantuJ on (February 28, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

@ suve - As per the rules of this series Net Run Rate is of least importance when two teams end up on same number of points. The 1st factor will be number of wins against each other. So India have played 4 matches against Sri Lanka and won 2, lost 1 and tied 1. India will proceed to the finals on this basis (if Sri Lanka lose to Aus)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

If SL lose to Aus, India will play the finals. It is based on who won the most number of matches when they played each other. India 2 SL 1.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

@suve Great. Now READ THE RULES of the tournament.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

Lot of people here are calculating the net run rate. please read the rules of the tournament..if two teams are tied on the same points, the team with most wins against one another (in this case India with 2 wins)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:48 GMT)

NRR does not matte. the rule of the tournament stats - if points are equal following order will be followed 1 The team with the most number of wins 2 If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3 If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4 If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

@suve: NRR comes to pic only if rest of the points get equal .. In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by sansonu2000 on (February 28, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

Well done India...good luck for Finals...(finger crossed, hope Aus Beat SL ) Kohli played suprb knock today...! probably his best inning so far...!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

@suve There is no such as net run rate scenario in this series.. HEad to head india to sri-lanka whoever has won more matches in the series goes into the finals.. That is the condition.. So only aussies need to beat sri-lanka to make an way for indians

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:47 GMT)

Here are the rules dude. 1) The team with the most number of wins 2) If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate So you can see it is advantage India.

Posted by amitabh_a on (February 28, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

To all those saying Sri Lanka's net run rate is higher than India, unfortunately the net run rate will not be counted. The criteria for qualification are: Most points, If points are equal, then the team with more wins over the other team with equal points. Since India has won three times against Sri Lanka, India will go through depending on the result of the aus sl match.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

@suve if both teams have same points at the end of robin league..they will look at the more number of matches won between them(india 2 and sri 1) against each other.and if that is same they will look at net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

Wrong suve. If this match didnt matter, then you can guarantee India wouldnt have bothered playing like T20 demons out there. This match gave them a 2-1 series edge in wins over Sri Lanka, so if Australia win on Friday, India WIN the tiebreaker between them and Sri Lanka.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

@Dilshan Fernando @suve . the tournament rules say that head to head record will be considered ahead of NRR in case of a tie in points. So, if Australia defeats SL in the last match, India will be through to the finals :) India won 2 matches against SL and SL only one. One match was tied...

Posted by starofcricinfo on (February 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

According to the CB series rules NRR will be the last measure to consider in case of tie in points. So, theoretically India went to finals(because surely Australia will win over SriLanka in the next match).

Posted by npse on (February 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

It is not about the run rate, India has beaten SL twice compared to once by SL. If SL looses next gain, they can go home, run rate is not in consideration.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

@suve, go to the points table page and read the qualifying rules if two teams end up with equal points...it will clarify your doubt...

Posted by gjoshi88 on (February 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

@ Dilshan and Suve India Still have Chance to be in Finals because as per Rules: In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

the Net Run rate have got the Least Priority, & If Sri Lanka losses then Both will have equal(3 Number of Wins), & As per 2nd Rule India have Defeated Sri lanka twice in the series so they will Qualify.

Posted by Khanchandani on (February 28, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

Australia simply has to beat Sri lanka. The margin DOESN'T MATTER at all. In case of a tie in points the team with more wins against the team tied with advances to the finals. So cheers for Team India if the Aussies beat the Lankans 3 days from now. I think this should settle the debate: http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

@suve: even if SL and India end up on same points, india will go thru as they have won more matches vs lanka in the league games..run rate comes in next as per the tournament rules..so ur working out the net run rate is totally irrelevant if SL lose to australia, whether they make 0 all out or 300 all out..

Posted by kohlifan on (February 28, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

@suve : India qualifies for the final if Aus beat SL in the next game, irrespective of the net run rate, cos india lead 2-1 against Sl in this series.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

@Suve: Dude, You tried so hard and gone so far, but in the end RUN RATE doesn't even matter... If SL lose on Friday, it will have the same points as India has. Then it's up to the number of Bonus points. They are also the same. Then they will look at number of wins. They are also the same. Then they will look at the team which won most number of times with the team that tied up the points in the league stages. India won against SL 2 times and tied once in the 4 matches that they played with each other. So, India will go to the final then. All this can happen if Aus beat SL on Friday. Else curtains for India and certainly Run Rate is not at all an issue here.

Posted by npse on (February 28, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

its only the brillaince of Kohli that won the game, the indian bowling and captaincy was pathetic as usual.

The biggest culprits of Indian's pathetic show have been bowling and captaincy but all the blame has gone to the batsman.

Posted by luvvips on (February 28, 2012, 12:43 GMT)

Well Done India ... this was one of the best win I ever seen

Posted by Shishirshetty on (February 28, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

@suve If SL loses immaterial of the margin we go ahead to the finals since we are ahead 2-1 on head to head encounter.

Posted by 777aditya on (February 28, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

@suve - get your facts right buddy - for a team to qualify, the number of wins against the particular opposition with same points is taken into account - India have beaten SL twice, so if Australia beat SL, India are through to the finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by raghuteja239 on (February 28, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

Head to Head wins count first, and India 2 Srilanka 1 .. So No problem for India going for CB series finals, If Australia manage win vs Srilanka. So no one really need to work on NRR.

Posted by RanilDeSIlva on (February 28, 2012, 12:42 GMT)

Dear Suve, if teams end up in the same points, the decider is the games between those 2 teams head to head and in this case, India are 2-1 ahead of SL with one tied match so that India advance to the final even they have a negative or a worse NRR than SL.. just dont put ur comments without knowing facts here.. This is why SL must win or Draw so that they are ahead of India in Pints and NOT on NRR :)

Posted by Roar911 on (February 28, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

truly amazing performances.... congrats India, ....well atleast SL didnt drop any chances, all credits for kohli and co. .... @suve, run rate doesnt matter because Ind won 2 games over SL, and for some idiotic reason, its taken into consideration over net runrate... All the best SL, doesnt matter whats the out come against aussies, we are always proud of you.... we certainly played better cricket thus far compared to the 'home champs' ...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

@ suve,,,,,,suve ! u dont hv to put stress over ur mind nd work out that srilanka is already in final on the basis of better runrate than india,,,,COZ Runrate only counts in this series as last option, so at the moment better runrate is gud for nothing for srilanka,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so u dumb SUVE, thats why nobody figured out that

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by CLIFFORDG on (February 28, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

THIS IS THE GROUND ON WHICH INDIA WILL QUALIFY - POINT 2 In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by chancricfan on (February 28, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

@Suve: "If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins ". Its under this class, India-2, Srilanka-1.

Posted by Swapnil_1984 on (February 28, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

My dear frnd SUVE- Srilankan Fan, this series doesnt count runrate.... if SL lose to AUS.... then ind and sl both tie with 15 points, then the series looks at how many times ind-sl faced each other in this series head to head and the one with more wins qualifies.... here, ind and sl hv faced 4 times in this series, 2 won by india, 1 by SL and 1 tie, so India will qualify.... run rate does not matter in this series....

Posted by Xanklup on (February 28, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

@suve - In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

So run-rate is the LAST requirement. as oer rule2 - India-SL is 2-1 as India beat SL twice... So India Qualify.

Posted by Knightriders_suck on (February 28, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

@suve: you do not read the cricinfo commentary or the tournament rules do you? dude in case of tie in points head to head record will be taken into consideration. In which case India is 2-1 on SL. No need to bash me read the tournament rules. And next time 100 people are saying something accept that at face value.

Posted by ghanta11_Xl on (February 28, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by shankicoool on (February 28, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

Cheers to India.... In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: * The team with the most number of wins * If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins * If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points * If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

for all the SL fans working out the complex net run rate maths, mate, if you loose to AUS, you take a flight back home immediately. the team which wins the other more number of times takes higher "priority" than the NRR

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

A simple win for Australia will suffice since the rules for the tri series says the team having more wins against the team having equal points will move to the finals. And here India lead Stilanka 2-1 with one match ending in a tie. So it all depends on how well Aussies perform.

Posted by itssrinaths on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

MR.Suve, net run rate doesnt come into effect now, India have won more number of matches against Sri Lanka and as this is the first preference given in this tournament hence they will qualifty irrespective of run rate stuff...so if Australia wins we will come into the final and if Srilanka wins/draws they will be in the final. Cheers! Srinath.

Posted by hatecric on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

@ SUVE, For ur information- as per the rules of CB series, if two teams end up with the same points , the one with more wins against the other enter the finals.So pls dont rule out India until the next match s over.Hope u get my point.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

for suve:

AS per the rules for the CB series, India beats SL twice and loses once. Run rate comes later. If SL loses to Aus, India will go to the finals.

Posted by Don_Q on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

@suve and other math geniuses, the head-on matches between SL vs IND is given priority over runrate. Ind leads 2-1 over SL. Hence runrate will not be of use in Aus Vs SL game. So..pray that malinga doesnt bowl the death overs !

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

@ suve: itz not with the NRR in CB series.. itz with the points first.. second it comes to head to head losses and wins (if the points are same,in case if SL lose in friday match, then india will qualify for finals as india beaten SL two times in CB series.... but SL made it only once, then finally they will chk on the NRR.....)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:39 GMT)

Suve

but it does not go on runrate but the team which one against each other the most qualifies

Posted by mitesh.here on (February 28, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

@suve.... bro....u need 2 check D rules fr dis series again.... if 2 teams r tied on D same points at D end D finalist will b 1) out of D 2 teams..whoever has won more no of matches against each odr....as it stands out SL n IND both r at 15 points n if SL lose D next match...Final will b IND vs AUS....I also find dis rule a bit unfair,but being an Indian fan..won't blame it 2 much.....well done guys....

Posted by vik1981 on (February 28, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

@Suve - NRR is the last criteria. India has more wins against Sri Lanka. So if Sri Lanka loses to Oz - India qualify. Read the rules on the points table page. - India Fan.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

@ suve. Please look at the rules if the points are tied. India leads 2-1 against Srilanka in the round robin. In this case, the NRR does not matter.

*The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

@suve- Genius you are sir but the CB series rules give priority to head to head record ahead of NRR.....so india having won 2 against sri lanka will go through regardless of the NRR..........so if sri lanka lose by 1 run.........india will still go through..!!! :P so stop wasting time calculating run rates and start praying for a srilankan win if u want your team in the finals - INDIAN FAN!!!

Posted by rahul31888 on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

Guys, NRR doesn't matter. It's the number of wins you have notched against the team you are tied with in the points table. So, India goes through if Lanka lose against Australia as India have two wins against Sri Lanka as opposed to Lanka's one win against India.

Posted by Pramoth001 on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

@ suve : As per the rules... if points are same then no. of win's over the other team will decide prior to the no. of bonus points and NRR. :-)

Posted by bthampi on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

@suve - You worked out the run rate thing pretty well, but the qualification doesn't really work that way. You see, if SL does lose to Aus in the next match , the India and SL would be tied with 15 points. The next criterion isn't run rate but the results against each other. India won 2 against SL and tied one. On the basis of the wins, India would go through to the finals. It was explained by Alan Wilkins after the match :) But yeah , SL does have a fair chance of winning against Aus too.. So let's see..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

NET RUN RATE,

india's NRR is -0.593

India's net run rate is still low..? even the SL loss the game againt Aus.

The rule is as the points are tied Between Sl and India (If Sl lose against AUS)

The Matchs played between India and SL stands. 2(India)-1(SL)-1(tie). So india qualilies.

This is the equation.

Posted by vishalrPune on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

I think you have not read tournament rules In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: *The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate so there is no point of discussing net rate in this scenerio.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

37 boundaries in 37 overs of the indian innings...interesting statistics....has it happened before....

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

To all those who are worried that India's NRR is lower than SL's, here, the first qualification point after points is the head to head record and India is currently 2-1 over SL with 1 tie, so India will sail thru if SL lose

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

@suve: net run rate is not the clinching criterion in this case according to the rules for this tourney (Check the rules listed below the points table). The aforesaid scenario arises due to the fact that India and SL had a tied game. So, head to head,India vs SL stands at 2-1, meaning India qualifies if they have same no. of points.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

@Suve: Dude i was having the same misconception! However in this tournament NRR does not count first in case of equal points, but instead if points are same then the head to head record of both teams in the tournament would come into play.(which i always felt made more sense ne ways) and in this case India lead 2-1 :)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

IND will go through if SL loses the next match against AUS... coz in terms of two teams being tied with the same points after all the league matches are completed the team with the max no. of wins against the other team will be considered first and not the net run rate... so IND have beaten SL twice, tied & lost once in the 4 matches they played against them. so IND will go through if SL loses to AUS in Melbourne come Thursday and if both teams stay in 15 points after 8 games !!!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

@suve: If SL lose, India will go into the finals because they have a 2-1 lead in the league stages. Run rates don't even come into play in this scenario.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

bt the thing is SUVE before net run rate it will be seen that which team has more wins over the other team...and india has 2 over sri lanka while srinka has only one over india

Posted by leonine1 on (February 28, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

@suve...India are 2-1 up against SL in the series. According to the rules of the tournament, this, and not NRR, will be the deciding factor for qualification. So if Aus manage to beat SL on 2nd, India will go through.

Posted by luvvips on (February 28, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

My dear friends Suve & Dilshan Fernando, I think you guys did not see the rules of Commonwealth Bank Series 2011/12. FYI, please read it carefully and see how India can reach to the finals if Srilank loss the Friday match... Pray to win this match In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins (Ind2 - Sri1) Ind can go to Final based on this point :) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points (IND, SRI Equal) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Well done India. .... This was awesome Win over Srilanka... I m 100% confident Australia will win this Friday match and Final would be in between Ind and Aus... Cheers!!!

Posted by Guru1989 on (February 28, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

hey suve, mate i m afraid dere was no need to do this amount of maths!!!! india will go in final if sl loses nxt game coz ind have won more games in ind sl head to head... 2-1 i.e, check out the rules http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by twenty12 on (February 28, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

Hi Sri Lankan Fan,

"In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins ***If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins*** If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate"

India is leading 2-1 (with 1 draw) in their one-on-one encounters with Sri Lanka Hope that helps you understand why no one (bothered to) worked this out.

Best wishes for the next match, Indian Fan

Posted by RajatChhabra on (February 28, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

@suve- It would have been better for you had you gone through the rules of this series instead of calculating the NRR. It's clear if Australia wins even by 1 run then India is through to the finals.

Posted by dhruvhans on (February 28, 2012, 12:35 GMT)

@suve: nice work on the calculations, but CB series has a rule which says that if two teams are on same points, then the team that has won more matches against the other team goes through, irrespective of the net rate. In this case, India has won 2 matches against SL, whereas, Sl has only won 1 match.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

I WORKED OUT THE NET RUN RATE, at present india's NRR is -0.593 and Sri Lanka's is +0.162. IF AUS GET 400 (50ovs) and Sri Lanka are allout for 100 (20ovs). Sri LANKA'S NRR WILL BE -0.23109, which is well ahead of India's -0.593. So Sri lanka will most definatley qualify to the finals, I don't understand why no one worked this out but it is almost Impossible for india to Qualify. Nevertheless Congrats to Virat Kohli, One of the best ODI innings I've seen.///// Boss if tow teams get same points then the first criteris for next stage is No of wins Head on Head. Here is up by 2-1 so India will go to the final. Its simple If Aus wins India goes to final. If Sri Lanka wins they go to finals. NRR not necessary

Posted by CLIFFORDG on (February 28, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

TO THE SRI LANKAN FAN - FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION IF AUSTRALIA BEAT SRI LANKA - INDIA ARE IN THE FINALS IRRESPECTIVE OF NET RUN RATE -BCOZ AS PER THE POINTS TABLE IF BOTH TEAMS FINISH ON EQUAL POINTS - THE TEAM (INDIA) HAS BEATEN SL TWICE & HENCE QUALIFY - SO CONGRATS VIRAL K - & SURELY AUSTRALIA WILL BEAT SL ON FRIDAY & INDIA WILL PLAY THE FINALS

Posted by sasimyname on (February 28, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

@Suve- The finalists are decided on the following basis: 1) The team with the most number of wins 2) If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

INDIA will qualify if SRILANKA lose to AUSTRALIA in the next match.......because the net run rate does not matter....... the teams matches against each other in the tournament will matter............ in this tournament in INDIA V/S SRILANKA matches, INDIA has won two while SRILANKA has won one........ one was drawn...... so it is a must win game for SRILANKA

Posted by Ashoo780 on (February 28, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

suve, net run rate is not going to be considered in this series... according to tournament rules, if sri lanka lose next match India will reach into the finals on the basis of number of wins against them.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

Mr Srilankan fan. Know the rules first.

according to tournament rules, India will pip their Asian neighbours into the finals on the basis of number of wins against them.

When two teams are tied with same points, then the team with most number of wins will go through to the finals. But in such a case, India and Sri Lanka both would have ended with three victories apiece. Then, the head-to-head record will be seen to determine who plays in the finals, meaning the most number of wins against the other opposition. India have beaten Mahela Jayawardene-led twice and this will sail them into the finals.

Posted by OkyaBokya on (February 28, 2012, 12:33 GMT)

Dudes, NRR has least priority in this series. Please visit points table tab for qualification rules. India will go in finals if Australia wins because in head to head India has more wins than SL.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

@ suve

People say that if Sl lose the match against Aus then India will reach finals, because they have read the rules of the tournament unlike you. Check the cricinfo points table to know the rule of the tournament. If SL loses against Aus, then Ind and SL will have same number of points, same number of with and same number of bonus points. The next factor that will be considered is the head to head wins, and india lead it 2-1.. so India qualify for finals

Posted by amitshah86 on (February 28, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Time to remind everyone that India are not yet in the final. A Sri Lankan win, or a tie, or a wash-out in the final league game will take Sri Lanka ahead of India on points. If Australia win that match, India will go through though they are tied with SL on points. India are 2-1 up on SL on head-to-head now, with one tie.

Posted by AnkitVerma82 on (February 28, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Congratulations India!!!! @suve : check the rule to qualify for finals. clearly mentioned that "If points are equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins" will go to the finals

Posted by RTR160 on (February 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

@suve:Rules In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate -- run rate wont be a matter bcos india has won srilanka twice

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

no worries about the net run rate....first count would be about number of matches won against the same points opposition.....and india have won 2 against 1 of srilanka....so only thing for srilankan to do is to just loose :)

Posted by CoolWorthy on (February 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

@Suve...this is not about NRR...even before they consider about the NRR, they will look after the head-to-head matches....that way if SL loose...IND are in final...hope now you understand the rule:)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

@suve The run rate factor will not come into play as in the tournament India beat Srilanka 2-1! This is as per the rules of this very tournament! So If Sri Lanka loses to Australia and EVEN their run rate is higher to India, still India will enter finals.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

Some sri lankan fans say that indian team run rate is too low....but before run rate here we can check that which team won more match against other team...so indian team ahead of sri lanka with 2-1 score line....

Posted by gkr1234 on (February 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

Dear suve, Qualification to the finals in this series is as follows (It is not simply of net run rate)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

For more details www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/story/555560.html#cmnt

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

@suve.. its nt based on net run rate.. its head to head.. india has won 2 and tied 1 and lost 1 to srilanka..

Posted by Hells_XI on (February 28, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

If teams are tied on points then the net run rate does not decide the qualification but the head to head of the teams decides it and India are currently leading the Sri Lanka in the Head 2 Head 2 - 1.

Posted by getnid on (February 28, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

@suve

Net run rate has nothing t do with it. Since India is 2-1 up against SL, India will enter the finals if SL loses to Aus.

"I don't understand why no one worked this out ...."

No one worked this out because almost everyone knew how this works ;)

Posted by Dheeraj1808 on (February 28, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

All SL fans just keeping net run rate in mind, pls.read the terms of the series & they'll know that if SL will loose the match even by 1 run, India is in the final.

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: *The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by Antu_Mathiyas on (February 28, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

@suve, On this series another rule is playing. If 2 teams on same point, then next rule for the qualification is who won more against each other, that case India won more against Sri Lanka. So India will qualify if both team on same point

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

@SUVE...please read the rules...Rules say if the teams are at same points 1. Most Wins 2. If a tie again that most win over opposing team. 3. Still a tie then the run rate By that SL will have to win the last game to qualify else INDIA will be through as they have beaten SL twice and one match was tie and lost one

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

To clear the confusion over the Net Run Rate. Here are the tournament rule for this Commonwealth Bank Tri-Series:

"In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate."

If Sri Lanka loses to Australia on March 2, then Sri Lanka and India will have equal number of wins i.e. 3 and as India defeated Sri Lanka twice and lost only 1 match against Sri Lanka, 1 match was a tie, so India will qualify to play finals against Australia..

Posted by RahulRanjanIndian on (February 28, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

@Dilshan Fernando @suve and all SL fans ...if SL loose next game then india will go to final because....

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

* The team with the most number of wins * If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins * If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points * If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Case1 will be eliminated if SL loose to Aus... Case 2 In the series india has defeated Sl 2 times where as SL only1 time....so Ind will go to finals....

so cheers!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Nikhil42 on (February 28, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

@Suve- If Sri Lanka lose India will make it because then it would not depend upon net run rate but head to head clash. Heard this from the commentators in todays match.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

suve..quote from cricinfo.." Sri Lanka could also miss out if they lose both their matches and concede a bonus point to India, and if Australia beat India. In such a case India and Sri Lanka will be level on 15, but India will scrape through on the basis of having more wins against Sri Lanka (two wins and only one defeat)."

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

@suve, if SL lose on friday they are out. India will be having 2 wins against SL, while the Lankans have only 1 against India. Net run rate not an issue.

Posted by May4sBeWithThem on (February 28, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

@Suve: dude, you might be better off reading the rules before dashing off with your calculator. If Aus beat SL, then the team with more head-to-head win goes through to the finals. NRR comes later. So India goes through irrespective of NRR. SL, though, have it in their control - win and go through. Simple.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate (Courtesy Cricinfo) India has beaten SL twice. (Head to Head: 2-1 for India)

So if SL loses on Friday, then India will qualify for the finals.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

@suve:It is not the Net RR which is deciding the finalists...It depends on who won more matches when they played each other...

Posted by crickfan_1 on (February 28, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

Suve, Its not the runrate which matters here, 1. The team with the most number of wins 2. If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3. If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4. If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate so India still have chances to get to finals but as always it depends on the other 2 teams :-)

Posted by BoseDK on (February 28, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

@suve Your calculation seems to be good but tournament rules don't agree with you. If SL lose, India will be through on the basis of head to head points. India have a 2-1 edge over SL. Though I think SL will give better fight to AUS in Finals - India Fan.

Posted by Rockyraj2k5 on (February 28, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

i guess suve has to read this !!!! if the teams are equal the most number of wins over other will be regarded as highest priority !! that means india beat srilanka twice !! india making into final !! if australia beat srilanka

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

India need not require higher RR than Sri Lanka to qualify. They won their last match with a bonus point which will take them to the finals if Sri Lanka fails to win their last match vs the Aussies. As they will have equal points but India acquiring 5 points of their last match in the group stage.

Posted by rbabur on (February 28, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

@Suve...This is the basis on which team is decided and since India has highest number of win against SL, they will qualify... *The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate I feel sorry for Dilshan who played a wonderful innings - From an Indian fan

Posted by viksar on (February 28, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

People the rule for this tournament is that if the teams have same points then - 1) Head to head win-loss against each other will be taken in account. 2) Even if the above remains same than the team with more number of bonus points will go ahead. 3) Even if the above 2 remains the same then the team with higher run rate will go through.

In this series India has better record over Sri Lanka, W-2, L-1 T-1 so the NRR does not come in picture. Lets just hope for an Australia win on Friday,

Posted by isildur_elendilson on (February 28, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

@suve, the rules for this tournament - head to head victories are accounted for, only if that is a tie, u get to choose on the net run rate ! :)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:25 GMT)

@dilshan & @suve....In this series there is no need of net run rate. if there is a tie between two teams points. Then there will be a consider about head to head matches. In this rule, ind is well ahead by two matches win out of four matches against srilanka in this series. so,if srilanka will lose in there next match against aus. ind will qualify 4 final.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@SUVE... Brother I don't know which planet you are living in. Please understand the rules before commenting something. There is no net run rate applicable here. If both the teams are tied on same points then head on head wins against each other during league stages will come in to picture and India has beaten SL twice with one tie where as SL has beaten india only once. Its as simple as that.

Posted by vivi252 on (February 28, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@ suve, Dilshan and all other SL Fans. - If Sri Lanka loses, India qualifies , coz as per the rules of CB Series, the net run rate is the last criteria.

The first criteria is team with max. points. If still equal, the team with the most wins over the other team . In this case no. of wins India/SriLanka has over the other. Now since India has won more matches over Srilanka than the opposite, India goes through. But again, Srilanka has to loose for that to happen.

Even a draw or no-result would mean India goes home. and Srilanka makes the finals.

Posted by George13 on (February 28, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@suve - please check these rules

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

*The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by siddy19 on (February 28, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

@suve Sri Lankan Fan please read the rules of the tournament before commenting....india still has a chance to make it into the finals because the head to head between india and sri lanka is 2-1 with one tie so run rate does not matter in this tournament only head to head does......the rules state that if two teams are on the same points their head to head will be considered

Posted by claustrophobic on (February 28, 2012, 12:24 GMT)

If 2 teams have same points, the team which has won more head to head matches would qualify for the finals. Since India has won 2 and SL 1 and 1 was tied, India would qualify if SL lose to Australia. NRR would have come into equation only if head to head matches were same which is not the case. Nut shell SL must win to qualify.

Posted by Kannan_siva on (February 28, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

Guys,

If SL Loses SL is out of the tournament. The NRR will come only last. First they will compare between 2 teams who is having most no of wns oveall. Here both teams are equal. Next they will see between the two teams with same points who has won more matches between them. Here India has 2 wins against SL and 1 lost and 1 Tie. Based on this INDIA will g to finals. Even if this is same only NRR will come into picture.

Posted by surferdude8868 on (February 28, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by Prashanth12 on (February 28, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

Guys read this Rules before checking on Net Runrate

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by pandian08 on (February 28, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

@suve: NRR is the last priority to get into the finals. Go to points table and see the various rules to get into the final of the tournament

Posted by GRAMMY_SACHIN on (February 28, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

@Suve & Dilshan Fernando:- Please check the rules, visit the Points Table in Cricinfo site to see the criteria for qualification in case of 2 teams ending up with same points:- For your reference i am giving below the same -- Assumption is Aus bt SL on 2nd Mar'12 means IND & SL will have 15 points with 3 Wins each.

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: Criteria 1 - The team with the most number of wins - Both IND & SL will have 3 wins -- So elimination is not possible Criteria 2 - If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins -- Ind 2 & SL 1 (And hence India will qualify) Criteria 3 - If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points Criteria 4 - If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:22 GMT)

for those who did their calculations on net run rate just go to the points table and read the rules to be followed if two teams ended on same points!!!

Posted by adyhbk on (February 28, 2012, 12:22 GMT)

Suve sunshine, the rule for the tournament is as follows: If teams are tied for points, their head-to-head record is taken into account (goes to India 2-1 against Sri Lanka); if that were to be tied- only then would the NRR come into play. I would personally attempt to rip you apart for drawing and commenting on the basis of such a silly conclusion after it has been mentioned repeatedly over the past week or so; but you owe it to the 'already legendary' MSD for committing the same ignorant error, which makes me hold back for writing rubbish on here and letting this one go. Would normally wish you luck as a fellow reader/commentator on here, but I can't help but wish your team loses the next one against Australia -Indian fan.

Posted by Rahul_Acharya on (February 28, 2012, 12:22 GMT)

@suve - coz the tour rules say, if points are equal, then team with most wins (Ind and SL will be same here), then most wins over the other team who are equal on points and have the same number of wins (Ind 2 and SL 1). Since India ahead India will qualify

Posted by CATerpiller on (February 28, 2012, 12:22 GMT)

@SUVE:: Dude!! good job for calculating the NRR , but it won be needed at all....as per the rules...PLEASE READ :

"In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate "

We are ahead of SL in point 2...NRR is point 4 so wont be needed....so india will be through if SL lose against Aus..simple :):)

Posted by raj60 on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@Suve : When 2 teams are equal on points its the team that's won more games against the other that will qualify. In this case India has beaten SL twice and so India will qualify.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

They would see the head to head win ratio where srilanka is lagging behind india(2--1 in favour of india)

Posted by CrazyCricketFan on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@suve. Read the rules mate. http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@suve - If Srilanka lose the next game with Australia, India is going into the finals! http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable Check the criteria. Net run rate doesn't come into play till all the other factors are accounted for :)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@Suve The way to qualify for final is diffrent, they will consider the team with most wins over the other in case of same points, before they go for run-rate

as india has won 2 against sri-lanka and they have one -1 india goes through if SL loses

Posted by RiazP on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

Even though Indias RunRate is less than Srilanka. But it has 2 Wins and Only 1 defeat. This rule precedes in this wierd tournament where bonus point are there. Austria got 3 bonus points.All against India.

Posted by sansonu2000 on (February 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

@ Dilshan Fernando, You need to check rules first mite, its not about net run rate...its about who won most matched against each other,,,then net run rate comes in picture...so India won more matched against SL then SL to Ind...So If SL will loose then India will be in Finals...!! its simple...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

Guys net run rate vl nt count here . India have now won 2 games against Sri Lanka n SL has just won One :D so if they Lose To AUssies , India vl qualify No matter wat the NRR is :D , the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins :D Hav Fun On Friday Nite :D

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate So net run rate doesnt matter as of now all India need is that australia beat the lankans.. even a tie or rain will spoil India's plans..

Posted by aashishhmr on (February 28, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

Well to the relief of all those asking about the NRR. If SL loses on Friday, the deciding factor would be the no. of wins India has attained over SL in the Series. India lead by 2-1 with one game tied.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

@ suve, wch channel do u use to watch this series? * cricket commentary panel cleary sayid that there is no question of NRR here. In case two teams having equal points then the team having more wins against the other team will go ahead. So ind have beaten SL twice where as SL had only once. If Aus beat SL ( unlikely provided their current form in this series but very likely @ MCG having more bouncy conditions and SL is also one poor overseas traveler side. Not sure how all of a sudden they are playing so good in Aus), IND WILL GO AHEAD. - Ind fan...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

@Suve - Run rate dosent matter here for qualification...Here is the scenario :- In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: 1)The team with the most number of wins 2 If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3)If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4)If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

So to cut it short, SL needs to win the last league match to qualify and eliminate Ind.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

it dosen't depend on the net run rate, it depends on how many matches among the teams who have the same points, won in head to head matches, so as indian won twice against sri lanka, they will qualify if sri lanka lose to australia.

Posted by Go_SL on (February 28, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

Following is the list of rules for picking up a team in an event of equal point on board,

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

Dear Friends,

In this series when points are equal( 15 each)

then

Head to head win counts first (india - SL is 2-1) rather than typical NRR

so india goes to final

Posted by max234 on (February 28, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

@suve : hey u didn't read the rules for qualification.if srilanka lose next match then india qualifies since srilanka lost twice to indians.

Posted by Aakus11 on (February 28, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

Mr Suve,

Srilanka has to win against Aus to take their points tally to 17, which will be ahead of india's 15 to qualify for the final. But if lankans loose, their tally will be 15 and also india's will also be 15. But , as per this tournaments rule, since India has more wins against lanka (ind2 and lanka1), india will qualify for the final.

Posted by gautm on (February 28, 2012, 12:18 GMT)

Just a reminder.. NRR calculations will not come into play. Criteria is to see the head-to-head record of the teams tied together. In this case, Ind having won 2 matches to SriLanka's one, Ind will go through. If both Ind and SL had won two matches each in their preliminary matches, then NRR would come into play. For SL, its simple - just avoid a defeat on Friday against Aus - tie, rain abandonment or win will take them through. For Ind, only hope is to pray that Aus defeat SL somehow.

Posted by kamal_lak on (February 28, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

Dear Suve, Shaun Pollock and MSD are looking for you urgently to explain them such golden permutations, combinations and calculations. Rush please.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

Its not about net run rate my dear friend from Sri Lanka, its about the head to head matches first, in which India leads Sri Lanka 2-1, hence, the only way for sri lanka to reach the finals is to beat Australia on Friday.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

@suve there is no role of run rate now dude because India has beaten SL twice as opposed to once so India qualifies on that basis into the finals.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

India can qualify..its all on head to head...India have won 2-1 against sri lanka so if srilanka lose india will go through no matter what the run rate is!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

Going Final is not a matter in this series many cheats made for our India . . . Either Australia wins or not, This Match Shows We are the True Common Wealth Bank Series Champions . . . INDIA THE WORLD CHAMPIONSSSSSSS . . . . .Always We are Great . . .

Posted by Stevo_ on (February 28, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

@suve , Read the rules , head to head is the tie breaker , not run rate. . If sl lose they will have the same number wins as India but India have beaten them twice , hence India go through

Posted by JohncenaRock on (February 28, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

I think here CB series its about the net runrate. If Srilanka lost the next match with Australia India will be qualified for the final since India have beaten Srilanka two times (2-1)

Posted by mtambie on (February 28, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

@suve...In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

*The team with the most number of wins *If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins *If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points *If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

Dear all the rules are quite simple In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by Kushalagr007 on (February 28, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

@suve:it seems you dont know the playing conditions of this CB Series, for your knowledge if 2 or 3 teams end up on same no. of points, the team which has more wins against the team on equal points will go through, if still they are equal then the NRR will come into play, so if SL lose to AUS on Friday they will be equal with India on points, but India has 2-1 lead over SL in thier head to head. Get your facts right man.........

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

The rules for CB series say if two teams are tied on points , the team which has won more head to head matches will qualify for the final. On this account, if Srilanka loose the match against Australia, India will go to the final as they have won more in head to head encounters(2-1). Run rate come in to picture only if this is also tied.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

Dilshan, Suve, the NRR does not count if SL lose to Australia. As per the rules of this tournament, the team with more wins against the other will go through.

In this case, India beat Sri Lanka twice and hence will be in the Finals...

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

Dear Friends,

In this series when points are equal( 15 each)

then

Head to head win counts first (india - SL is 2-1) rather than typical NRR

so india goes to final

Posted by gestapo on (February 28, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

@ suve,, u need not get your great mathematical brains out,, if SL win or tie against Aus or even a no result will take SL through to the finals,,if they lose,India goes.As simple as that,,as india beat them twice in 4 matches.Nothing to do with the complex calculations. Save all your math for future.

Posted by D3CI3VER on (February 28, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

If, on the other hand, they lose to Australia and beat Sri Lanka with a bonus point, they'll want Australia to beat Sri Lanka. In that scenario, both India and Sri Lanka will have 15 points with three wins each, but India will have a 2-1 lead in their head-to-head against Sri Lanka, which, according to the rules of this tournament, will take precedence over the net run rate. INDIA IS STILL INN....

Posted by swaroopjammula on (February 28, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

@suve: i think you need to be eduacted about the rules to qualify in this tournament. if sri lanka loses thier final match agianst aus , then ind and sri lanka would be at level with 15 points then ind would directly qualify as they have 2 wins against sri lanka compared to 1 win of sri lanka against india

Posted by reddevilXI on (February 28, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

Oh Dear.. sure.. before you started calculating the NRR, may be you should have tried using your brain. It works like this: In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

1. The team with the most number of wins -- India now lead SL 2-1, hence they will play final if SL lose. 2. If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins.

Get your facts right before jumping to conclusions...

Any more doubts.. clear from link:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

@ suve In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

So India Pray for a Australia Win and being a SL fan, u back SL to win their next game Cheers :)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

its not a question of Net run rate anymore buddy.. if srilanka loses against Australia at melbourne, its India that makes into the finals against Australia.. because India won 2 matches against Sri lanka and lost one against them.

Posted by Madhu477 on (February 28, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

@SUVE :If SL loses the match ..India will automatically qualify for the finals, Since India have beaten Srilanka twice in this series, whereas SL defeated india only once. Refer the points table for the rules to qualify if two teams are having same points.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

1) The team with the most number of wins 2) If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Now if SL loose the mach against AUS, IND and SL will have 15 points each. The first seperator says number of wins, both IND and SL would have 3 wins. now the second seperator says head to head between the teams tied on points, india leads head to head vs SL in this series 2-1 and one game tied.

so india will go thru even though SL have a higher Net Run Rate. :D

Posted by jkishoret on (February 28, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

Don't worry abt net runrate , if SL looses next match, then India will be into finals. Below is the selection process :

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

1.The team with the most number of wins 2.If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins 3.If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points 4.If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

For those who say NRR of SL is more than India's , yes it is, but qualification is based on the team with most wins over the other team, if they are equal in points. NRR will only come if SL and Ind had won equal games against each other. So if SL lose the next game Ind will be in Finals !!

Posted by Leggie on (February 28, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

@suve - unfortunately the rules for this competition is not based on net run rate mate. In the event of two teams getting tied on the same points, the the team with max number of wins in the head to head clash get to go through. In this case if SL loses to Aussies and there is a tie in the points table, SL and India will have the same number of points. They will now see the head-to-head clash - which would read India-2, SL-1 and 1 tie out of the 4 matches. The team with more wins in Ind-SL matches - India in this case will go through on that rule. Don't worry, Aussies will prefer to take on SL in finals and they'll lose their match against them on Friday ;-)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

@suve The rules of the CB series say if 2 teams are at the same point then head to head who has won more matches will qualify for the finals irrespective of the run rate which means if srilanka loses to australia then india will qualify for the finals given the current scenario head to head India won 2 and lost 1 and 1 tie against srilanka in this series

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

There's a lot of questions being asked on how can India go through even with an inferior net run rate. Yes India's net run rate will be lower even if Sri Lanka loses miserably to Australia, but the rules of the tournament state that if teams end up with the same points and same number of wins, the team with more wins over the other team with the same points goes through. Hence all India needs now is for Australia to beat Sri Lanka!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

Many people are thinking the qualifying for finals depends on net run rate but it's not if 2 teams are tied on points then they go head to head wins which India lead by 2-1 in the series which makes India to finals in case Lanka loose against Australia

Posted by AnkitVerma82 on (February 28, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

ha ha ha @suve : please check the rules to qualify for the finals.....

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

net runrate is not a prob wen SL loses to AUS..india wil go to the final cos if the points are same d next thing comes for qualification is the most number of wins between those teams..india is leading dat..

Posted by Narbavi on (February 28, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

@suve: smart eh?? my goodness did you read the rulebook?? net run rate doesn't matter if the teams are tied on points at the end of the league stage, its the head to head record that matters...so india will go through since they have a 2-1 record against the lankans in the league stage!!

Posted by indianfannisha on (February 28, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

To all those who think that SL still hold edge with the Net Run Rate thing... please be aware that we are playing the CB series and not any kind of world championship. Here the rules are diff. NRR is the last thing to be considered as India have beaten SL in the past and have tied one match..... So the conclusion is if SL wins against Aus then they qualify for the finals, if not it is India to play Aus in the Finals ...

Posted by archer5421 on (February 28, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

The NET RUN RATE will not come into picture, as per the rules of same team having equal points.The team with most number of wins over other team comes into play. In this case, India have most number of wins over SL in this series. So it is a must win match for SL if they want to play in the finals. As for India, they just have to wait for the result.

Posted by iamafreak on (February 28, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

@suve - U might want to read the rules for qualification again. * The team with the most number of wins * If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins * If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points * If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

@ Suve: Your problem is you dont know the rules being employed in the tri series. The net run rate has been made to be the secondary consideration. When two teams are competing for the final spot, the rules are such that the team who has more wins against the other gets through with a bonus point. So now it doesn't matter how badly Sri Lanka loses to Australia or how narrowly they do so but what matters is if they can win or at least tie it, if not they are out and no net run rate is going to help, even though they will be way ahead of India on that count. Get the facts right mate! Cheers! :)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

@ suve

In this series, the number of wins between the tied teams is taken over net runrate. india lead sri lanka 2-1.

but don't worry, Dhoni apparently made the same mistake

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

run rate does not matter . india have 2 games against srilanka with a tie and srilanka have only won1 against india the rule of the series states in such a condition team with max wins goes into the final , runrate is considered only if the no wins are equal... so hope srilanka bites dust yet again to pave wave for india..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

Dilsan u duffer..........if sri lanka lose against the aussies........india will qualify as india has defeated sri lanka more times

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

1 million ppl aren't stupid! pls, dis series, if teams finish on equal points, the criteria is: no. of wins, then, no. of wins against each other(btwn the teams on equal pts) and then no. of bonus points and then net runrate. which means india ll qualify if sl lose!!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

For all of you who are worried about net runrate, let me explain that the rules in CB series is as follows:

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:08 GMT)

For suve.. In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:07 GMT)

@suve.u used ur brain too much....rules r bit different here ...India will reach into final if sl lost against Australia cos India beat sl twice in dis series n sl only won 1 match against India;-)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

@SUVE: if srilanka lose no matter what the runrate is: India will be in finals: See how it is possible: In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows: The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

So India had two wins over srilanka which makes them to qualify for finals

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

@Suve: Why did you do all the tough calculations brother..!! All you could have done was to read an article on cricinfo! The series rules say that if the teams are tied on points table, the winner of the two will be decided over the team's performance against each other! it will not reach till NRR! My sympathies!! Though I feel for your hard mathematical work!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

"suve" dear, please read the playing conditions carefully. For equal points the team having more number of wins against the other goes through. Thats what will see India through, if SL looses to Aus.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

@suve NRR is secondary.... india leads sl 2-1 s if sl lose they are heading back home despite a bttr nrr!!!!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

@suve, NRR is not a problem right now! Before NRR, the head to head record is seen. India hold a 2 1 edge over Lanka, so if Australia win, we are through!

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

For all those people who are worried about net run rates. Let me tell you, the rules in CB series is as follows: In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by hardik1687 on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

@suve... rules for this CB series are different... if points are tied than they look at face to face outcome first before NRR. so if SL loose to AUSSIES than Ind have 2-1 win over SL in this series and hence will qualify for Finals.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

The number of times a team wins over the other team acts as a decider in this case and not the net run rate.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

it depends on the number of wins India and srilanka has against each other during their 4 match series...So it stands this way 2 to india 1 to SL and 1 tie...and hence india goes through even if their net run rate is less than that of srilanka !

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

The team that goes into the finals is not on NRR. Its as below.

In the event of teams finishing on equal points, the right to play in the final match or series will be determined as follows:

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

In a match declared as no result, run rate is not applicable.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

@suve.Have you gone through the tournament rules.If 2 teams end up with same points,then team with more wins against each other in the league stage will qualify to the finals.

Last time i checked,India won 2 games(Including today's match),Srilanka 1 and 1 Tie.Srilanka will not qualify to finals if they lose their last match against australia.

Posted by pullthelever on (February 28, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

@suve its not based on net run rate, india would go through the final if sri lanka lose as it is based on the head to head record which is 2-1 to india and a tie

Posted by abiindia on (February 28, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

"i don't understand why @suve not worked this out" indian already beaten lanka twice so they are bettered. even they fail in any kind of big margin. they only has to win to qualify. Stupid thinks himself smart! LOL

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

@suve: Just Go through Qualification Rules Buddy..... http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable

Posted by Avidcricketlover on (February 28, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

"If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins."

It is not the run-rate business this time. If SL lose against Aus, they go home else India should.

Posted by emadstats on (February 28, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

@suve , the first criterion after having equal points to qualify is not NRR. It is the team which has more no. of wins over the other team which has equal points which will qualify. India has two wins over sri lanka which has only one . If Australia beats sri lanka anyhow, india will qualify. if sri lanka beats australia anyhow srilanka will qualify. if u don't believe me, read the " points table" section.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

@suve...Sorry to tell you that your net run rate calculations are in vain. Check the tournament rules. Head to head results take precedence over run rate. India lead SL 2-1 with 1 tie. Hence if SL lose they are out.

Posted by Thomas_George on (February 28, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

As per rules, if points are tied, they check for overall wins first. SL and IN have 3 each. The next check is wins in head-to-head matches. In that, India leads 2-1, and hence will go on to the finals. Net run rate is inconsequential because India leads the head-to-head.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

@suve check the Points table page... Net run rate is the last check before that few more rules are their... If SL loss ..India will go into finals since they have 2 wins over SL..

Posted by HaraJN on (February 28, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

India bt SL twice and one match was tied... India leads SL 2-1... out of 4 matches.. and as per rules of the series

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

@suve The main thing is if Aus wins net run rate would not be calculated at all..Because India has won 2 matches against srilanka and that would be taken into consideration as to which team goes through the finals in case srilanka loses the final match..so it completely depends on the outcome of the final match ;)

Posted by cricket-crazee on (February 28, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

@suve. In this series the run rate doesnt matter if the team has defeated other on more occassions. Here is the rule for tje teams finishing on equal points: 1) The team with the most number of wins; 2) If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team who are equal on points and have the same number of wins; 3) If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points; 4) If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate. In this view, India defeated SriLanka twice and will proceed to the finals. Thanks!

Posted by Doconcall on (February 28, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

@ Suve: You are a genius when calculating NRR, but you FORGOT to read the qualification criteria. In case of equal points, the team with more wins in the series will qualify. India-SL ratio is 2:1 with 1 tie. So, if SL loose against Aus, India qualifies.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

According to the following rules -The team with the most number of wins, If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins, hence India goes to the final if Srilanka loses against Australia...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@ Dilshan Fernando: My frnd net run rate is not a factor bcoz India has defeated SL twice so SL has to win on friday to go into finals...

Posted by r_raja23 on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

Suve nice comments but pls see the rules. If both teams finish on same NRR the team to go to final will be the team with most wins. India beat SL twice & if AUS beats SL then india qualifies... Hope clear...

Posted by Rawlonski on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@Suve.... probably already been highlighted a thousand times by now, but India will progress if Sri Lanka lose because they have beaten Sri Lanka twice to only one loss (with a tie). Most wins against the other goes through.

Sorry, but Sri Lanka's spot is definitely up for grabs.......

As much I hate to say it.... I hope the Aussies lose - the Indian's need to go home

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@suve: u need to read rles..net run rate has no role in it..team with better record against other in the series will qualify India lead 2-1..(not a srilankan fan)

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@suve

In case teams are level on points, here's how the tie-breaker will rank the teams who are level on points: i) the team with the most wins; ii) the team with the most wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins; iii) the team with the highest number of bonus points; iv) the team with the highest net run rate.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

@suve_Srilalnakna fan:Dude pity u..think u dnt know d rules of this series,run rate dsnt matters beta... :P

Posted by HaraJN on (February 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

Inda through if SL lose... go to the points table and read rules..

The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins If still equal, the team with the highest number of bonus points If still equal, the team with the highest net run rate

Posted by Asoo on (February 28, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

The NRR does not matter , IND has beaten SL twice and SL has beaten IND once , that is what matters , the team with more wins

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

All of you talking about runrate equation.. are forgetting the fact that : " The team with most wins head-to-head, will get through irrespective of the runrate". For IND v SL, India have 2 wins - 1 loss - 1 Tie. If SL loses to Aus anyway.. INDIA are throught to the FINALS. As simple as THAT.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

Bro qualify in finals not work on net rate.. It's depend if head to head by teams india win two matches from srilanka and one draw so india will qualify if srilanka lost from Australia nothing to do with net run rate .. New rules

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:59 GMT)

okay guys, the run rate does not matter here. have a read through http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/engine/series/518940.html?view=pointstable. as rules it clearly states that 'The team with the most number of wins If still equal, the team with the most number of wins over the other team(s) who are equal on points and have the same number of wins.' From that, india is ahead with 2-1 wins against SL. so the run rate doesnt matter. Aus just gotta win on fridays match.

Posted by Doconcall on (February 28, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

@ Dilshan Fernando: The net run rate would not matter. In case of equal points, the criteria for qualification is number of wins against that opposition. India have beaten SL more than they have beaten India in this series; hence, if SL loose against Aus, it will be India who qualifies. But, what a performance from India too. Showed the true class of emerging young players.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

They don't calculate NRR any more.. if SriLanks loses against aussies then India into finals as simple as that

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

Everybody confused on the NRR, please read the tournament rules.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

@ Suve.. Brother nice work on NRR but the way this work is NRR between India and Sri Lanka will be considered... As They played 3 games with each other and India is above Sri Lanka with 2-1. So even if Sri Lanka lose next match just by 1 run still they have to catch next day flight to Sri Lanka... Win is only option for them

Posted by Pratik_vodka on (February 28, 2012, 11:55 GMT)

Net Runrate is irrelevant if SL loose to Aus even if it is by 1 run. Teams with equal points are decided on head to head win/loss ratio.

Posted by nishantupadhya on (February 28, 2012, 11:55 GMT)

Sorry but NRR is only the second criteria. The first is how many time the teams have beaten each other. India has beaten SL more times. Therefore, SL has to beat Aus or tie.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:54 GMT)

Oh boy, Malinga got really MALIGNED...

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

Lol......I think Ravi will Re-think his career after getting locked for the 2nd time :D..But what a win.Shows "we are the Champions"..

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

Virats 133 * would be more remebered than Sachin paaji n Viru bhais 200+ knocks since it came under sucha do or die situation. now if Virat learns to keep cool like MSD ; once MSD retires he can surely take team Indias batton in hands :) Well done to all top 5 indian batsmen

Posted by NP_NY on (February 28, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

Wow, what a comprehensive whupping! India continues it's domination of Srilanka at home and abroad (including this tournament). Malinga has been taken to school by Kohli. SL players didn't know what hit them. But I don't think India will make it to the finals because, Australia will remember what happened in the the last CB series final. Now that Indian batsmen are back to form, they are a bigger threat than SL ever will be, so I won't be surprised if Aus try to lose the next game. One last note - I hope Dilshan makes more 160s against India (SL lost both times).

Posted by maddy20 on (February 28, 2012, 11:45 GMT)

@Dilshan Fernando It does not matter in this series because the rules are different. If SL lose against Aus, then they will see the head to head record of other two teams that are tied in 15 points. Since India won 2 games against SL and SL won only one, India will go through to the final. On the other hand if SL beat Oz, the game is washed out or tied, SL will go through!

Posted by suve on (February 28, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

I WORKED OUT THE NET RUN RATE, at present india's NRR is -0.593 and Sri Lanka's is +0.162. IF AUS GET 400 (50ovs) and Sri Lanka are allout for 100 (20ovs). Sri LANKA'S NRR WILL BE -0.23109, which is well ahead of India's -0.593. So Sri lanka will most definatley qualify to the finals, I don't understand why no one worked this out but it is almost Impossible for india to Qualify. Nevertheless Congrats to Virat Kohli, One of the best ODI innings I've seen. - Sri Lankan Fan

Posted by CricIndia208 on (February 28, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

CONGRATULATIONS WORLD CHAMPIONS INDIA.

Posted by theswami on (February 28, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

The secret of India's success lay in Shastri's inabililty to comment.

Posted by Haleos on (February 28, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Well done India. This is a result we get if we invest in Youth. Of course Sachin and Sehwag gave a tremendous start but without the pressurefree attitude of the youngsters this would not have been possible. Now we need to say goo bye to certain wall with holes more than a strainer and highly overrated special saviour from the test team and we will be back to winning ways in Tests soon. Sachine still is doing great in tests.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:30 GMT)

the warning worked for the indians.

Posted by girikula on (February 28, 2012, 11:29 GMT)

Some people wrote in comments section of last few days' Cricinfo stories - that Srilaknka will lose this match to keep "help" of BCCI alive... -------------------------------------------------------------------- also Aus too want IND to be in final 1) So that the viewership goes up on ground and on TV 2) Easier to beat IND than SL based on current form............

Posted by MADHURYA.VARTSHNEY on (February 28, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

today dhoni wins the toss hopefully this is the start of getting his golden touch badk . still hoping india ti reach final

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (February 28, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

SL fans were in the moon with just one fluke win over India. But they forget that they are just runners up and we are the World champions....well done India. Hope, Australia will thrash SL in the next match.

Posted by Bruisers on (February 28, 2012, 11:07 GMT)

Quoting the exact words by the Cricinfo commentator in the 46th over of the Sri Lankan innings - "Just in case India's batsmen had hopes of winning with a bonus point, the bowlers are ensuring such dreams will die a quick death" LOL.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 11:00 GMT)

What if SL lose the next match against Australia's, India's net run rate is still low..?

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

Good Work Virat...............

Posted by   on (February 28, 2012, 10:55 GMT)

well how ravi shastri passed his time on lift?? maybe he want to go washroom?? i laugh that he wana do commentary and he is in lift

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