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Essex could get tough on IPL absentees

Alex Winter

January 29, 2013

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Ravi Bopara's knock of 38 helped Chittagong to their first win this season, Barisal Burners v Chittagong Kings, Bangladesh premier League, Khulna, January 24, 2013
Ravi Bopara, seen here playing for Chittagong in Bangladesh's T20 tournament, could become a third Essex player to miss large chunks of the season if he gets an IPL deal © Chittagong Kings

Essex have indicated they could follow Nottinghamshire's example in future seasons by banning their players from taking part in the IPL during the English season as signs grow that the counties are considering a firmer line towards the tournament.

Paul Grayson, Essex's head coach, has admitted the issue has become a regular topic of discussion for the Essex committee as they consider withdrawing permission for their players to pursue IPL deals in 2014.

England's managing director, Hugh Morris, confirmed after their one-day tour of India that England's Test programme would remain sacrosanct and there would be no concessions in the new central contracts currently under negotiation and due to come into force in September.

England's centrally-contracted players who are in the running to play the first Test against New Zealand have to return by May 5 which entails missing nearly half the IPL which runs from April 3 to May 26.

The counties are responsible for issuing No Objection Certificates for players contracted directly by them - and the disruption they face is even greater with the Championship season beginning on April 10.

Nottinghamshire became the first county to stand firm and protect the integrity of the county season. Faced by losing Michael Lumb, Samit Patel and Alex Hales for the first part of the new season, a period which could conceivably end their Championship ambitions, Notts' director of cricket, Mick Newell, instructed his players not to put themselves in the IPL auction on February 3.

Essex's problems run just as deep. Ravi Bopara will be in the IPL auction and could become a third Essex player to potentially miss six County Championship matches and three CB40 fixtures of the new season. Ryan ten Doeschate already has a deal with Kolkata Knight Riders and Owais Shah is signed to Rajasthan Royals.

"It's something we keep discussing on a regular basis about what we're going to do," Grayson told the Essex Chronicle. "Eventually we might make a decision and say: 'Enough is enough: you either play for Essex or you play somewhere else'.

"Some counties are putting a stop to it and not letting their players go. Notts were the first ones that said if their lads go to the IPL then they don't play for Notts. It's up to them what they decide to do."

Middlesex will also suffer as Eoin Morgan has a contract with Kolkata but, as an England-contracted player, he is not bound by the wishes of his county. Last season Morgan played a full season of IPL when he was dropped from the England Test side and should be available to do so again with his selection for England's Tests against New Zealand in May unlikely after his exclusion from the tour party for New Zealand in March.

Essex do have control of their players because they are not centrally contracted and, although no decision about future policy has been reached, Grayson said the club are working with the ECB and the Professional Cricketers Association to avoid potential legal problems.

Their fear is that the situation could lead to players moving to counties willing to grant them a window to be available in the IPL. Only if all 18 counties followed the principle that the county season came first would English cricket avoid some high-profile transfers and even then they might not be able to hold the line against overseas players hoping for an IPL deal.

"If they're under contract, players can't do anything about it," Grayson said. "But if they're at the end of their contract they might go to another club that lets them go to the IPL, if that's what they want to do.

"It can be a bit of a problem but it gives one or two of the younger lads a chance to go out and show what they can do; the Mickleburghs, the Westleys and Foakes can come in and the others will have to wait their turn before they come back in to the side. Just because they go to the IPL there's no guarantee they'll walk back in to the side. You've got to be loyal to players, it works both ways."

Despite missing Shah and ten Doeschate for the first part of last season, Essex began well, winning one and drawing four of their opening five matches. When Shah returned, Essex lost to Derbyshire in their next match. But overall both Shah and ten Doeschate enjoyed good seasons. Shah made 589 runs in eight first-class matches at 49.08 and ten Doeschate 412 runs at 45.77 from his nine games as well as their impact in the limited-overs formats. Such players are not lightly lost.

Essex had batting cover at the start of the season with South African batsman Alviro Petersen playing seven matches, although he only managed 90 runs in 10 innings either side of making 145 against Glamorgan. This season, Essex have signed Rob Quiney, the Australian batsman, for the whole campaign.

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Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 20:47 GMT)

@IndiaNumeroUno at no point did I say "ours is best - and the rest is bad" If someone wishes to follow the IPL good luck to them, it's no skin off my nose. I would simply prefer that it didn't take away players from the English International and County season. As for KP facts speak for themselves, he's playing Test Cricket on the ECB's terms and conditions, you either accept it or you don't, in England it's the team that comes first not the individual "star"

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 30, 2013, 20:15 GMT)

@IndiaNumeroUno - You've still missed the point. By definition, all the overseas 'stars' were nurtured by another country, whether they are from England, South Africa, Australia, Barbados or even Ireland. If, as it appears, the IPL needs to recruit such players, they are reliant on other countries' development programmes. OK, according to you the ECB are irrelevant, but what about the rest of the non Indian cricketing world? @abcdef_12345 - Try thinking that one through. Change the county schedule so that the six weeks of IPL are tacked on to the end of the current season. Ever been to England in October and November?

Posted by JG2704 on (January 30, 2013, 18:36 GMT)

Some real dirge posted on this thread. With guys like Clarke and Bob wasting their time trying to talk sense into the blinkered brigade. The fact is that none of the many overseas stars debuted in IPL , they were all picked up because of the form they have shown in/for their own countries.

Posted by JG2704 on (January 30, 2013, 18:36 GMT)

@SyedAreYouDumb on (January 29 2013, 21:14 PM GMT) You're possibly right to a degree. I also think Indian franchises pick marquee names who are not necessarily the best players of the format. Also , I think they're more likely to go for a batsman who can hit a long ball than a bowler who can bowl some tight overs. I think Lumb and Hales would have had fair chances of playing (Lumb has played there before) and if I was an IPL franchise selector/bidder I'd go for Swann and Tredwell although I'm not sure either will be made available by the powers that be

Posted by TripleCenturian on (January 30, 2013, 18:32 GMT)

Apart from the money, the IPL is vastly overrated. Just look at the Champions League and how successful the IPL teams were, despite being able to cherry pick some of the better players who were eligible for their "home teams". That's why the IPL needs the overseas players to try and make it attractive to viewers. However, some of those who do go the IPL from England actually end up sitting around watching whilst their English counties play cricket without them. How many games did Collingwood play last time? Would Bopara or Shah get a game for their IPL team? I think the English counties need to unite and adopt a common policy, perhaps led by the players union so there is consistency across the board.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 30, 2013, 18:11 GMT)

@clarke501 : I'll say this again... NONE of the IPL stars (in true sense of the word) have been "nurtured" by ECB in ANY manner. KP was nurtured in South Africa, Eoin Morgan in Ireland... there are NO other ECB contracted players who can be called stars - playing in IPL. Is that clear?

Posted by British_North_America on (January 30, 2013, 18:05 GMT)

Why does English county not change its schedule.Once upon a time, every players dream was to play in county, but this days have gone.It is now IPL,BPL,BBL which attracts players more with money.

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 30, 2013, 17:48 GMT)

@IndiaNumeroUno - If the IPL was purely a domestic competition with no overseas players you would be absolutely right. However, as it evidently needs players from overseas, whether 'stars' or journeymen, it must to an extent be dependent on the countries which develop those players. @sachin_vvsfan - counties play 4 day matches too. An NOC can only be issued by the body holding the player's contract. As the article explains, the ECB is only involved in respect of centrally contracted players, the rest are contracted to counties.

Posted by yorkshire-86 on (January 30, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

Its a no brainer. A player is contracted to a county, and the IPL clashes with it. The county gain nothing whatsoever from losing the player to the IPL, so why let them go there? And what is this nonsence about the BCCI providing 70% of 'crickets' revenue? What exactly is 'cricket'? True the BCCI makes far more money than the other boards, but NONE of that money goes to 'cricket'. All the money goes to is internal projects inside India, and to the 2-3 best T20 players of each country. If Indian cricket vanished tonight, it would have no effect whatsoever on the viability of cricket as a game. County players would still be paid, groundsmen in Sydney would still be paid, local league cricket would carry on getting played. In fact there would only be THREE MEN in the WHOLE of England affected by it - KP, Morgan and Shah (the players with current IPL deals)

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 30, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

@bobmartin : None of the IPL stars have been "nurtured" by ECB. The stars I'm talking about are in the league of Dhoni/ Sachin/ Sehwag etc. BCCI generates more than 70% of the games revenue... so no.. IPL does not need or depend upon ECB in ANY manner. I'm sure the opposite is true as well (and that's good for the game).

Posted by SpizenFire on (January 30, 2013, 15:02 GMT)

Here's a thought: WHAT IF ..... 1) Counties attach a base tag for players .. i.e: if they wish to play for other leagues, the counties get the base price for that player 2) The players in turn include this base tag in their base price for which ever league they are playing. Atleast, this will kill 2 arguments. One that the county has invested in its players and it needs adequate compensation. Secondly, the players who really are worthy and good, will deal with this themselves, rather than get the different boards/counties/leagues to argue needlessly. I suspect, all see the benefits of richer, lucrative, entertaining cricket, but cannot find a winning ticket. Ego etc has no place in any game and neither should any board have it.

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 14:46 GMT)

@wablo It depends what you mean by "decent." Top-of-the-range players in county cricket -- the sort who might have a fighting chance of an IPL deal - will not be around 100K, a little higher or lower. Counties gain an annual subsidy, roughly speaking, approaching GBP £2m from the ECB (the product of international receipts and a recognition of their role in player development) and their commercial revenue streams have been enhanced by pop concerts at improved stadiums, conference centres, even hotels. So the financial model is not quite as shaky as some suggest. As for England players, it has commonly been accepted in the media that an England player, counting sponsorships etc, can hope for a considerably higher income.

Posted by getsetgopk on (January 30, 2013, 14:26 GMT)

2 months of domestic T20 competition is absolutely ridiculous to begin with. Why should the counties be nice to anyone and for what? The counties and their boards are there to look after their game and their chances of doing well in CC and if they started a free reign for all to come and go as they pleases then whats the purpose of having these county boards with high paying administrators, whats the use of all this setup and the years and years of history attached to the english game. The tradition and everything else goes with it for a mere domestic t20 league. Indians didn't let their players play in SLPL, Pak didn't let its players in BPL for reasons of for reasons of far lesser impact, here the entire english domestic structure is in danger. Though IPL have badly diminished WI and NZ.

And I dont think any county player can challenge their boards, not even in a court of law, KP couldn't do it.

Posted by SpizenFire on (January 30, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

Accomodation v/s competition. If Essex compete's with enterprising leagues, it will have to keep on matching or bettering the overall game, which I doubt it has the ability (resource wise). But if it works on the lines of accomodation, it has a possible winning situation. For the players, fans and the game overall. Its easier said than done, but perhaps the line of thinking should be on accomodation. Denial of emerging and lucrative opportunities or blocking the participation of promising and exciting players is a no gain and easy approach.

Posted by wablo55 on (January 30, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

Quick question Hoppsy! You got a source for that statement that decent county players get £100k from their county as pay? Interested to know how such a salary would be funded given the dearth of sponsorship on offer and the near-empty stadiums that most county matches take place in.....It was my understanding that England centrally contracted players get six figures, not a 'decent county player'. More likely, he's on 30-45k, right? I'd be happily corrected, but my feelings are that 100k per 'decent county player' is completely unsustainable and implausible given the level of finance in English cricket.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (January 30, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

Can some one explain if this County Season is all about those 40 over one day games or do they (also ) play test (or First class) matches ? If it is later then it makes sense to refuse NOCs if they feel they need full services of their players and I thought it was always ECB who issues the NOCs (didnt know that they empower counties to do that )

Posted by bobmartin on (January 30, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

Posted by MooseHeads on (January 29 2013, 20:14 PM GMT) " Gone are those days where ACB and ECB are the powerful boards. Welcome to the reality." I think it's you who needs a dose of reality.. Without the English county system and the ECB, or the Aussie and Sth African equivilents, there would be no "stars" for the IPL to want.. It is those systems which have coached and trained these players through their various levels and at no little expense that has brought them up to their current standard. Without the talented players they have nurtured there would be no IPL... That's the reality

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 30, 2013, 13:03 GMT)

@SamuelH : There's a difference between "not wanting our players playing in foreign leagues" versus "controlling players in a hard line manner as to where they want to play AND belittling other leagues". The former is a genuine understandable feeling while the latter is a narrow minded view which is implemented in a callous manner. In fact had England had a cricket league where IPL/Ranji players preferred to play then I would welcome it since there are a lot of players and too few tournies to go around :) Recently there are talks of Univesity leagues in India which will be based on IPL format and I can guarantee that the stadiums will be chock a block with paying spectators. If some of the players from IPL decide to go to BBL/ County etc etc it can only mean greater opportunity from players coming from Universities... can't wait!!. I wonder if they will take players from English Universities too... it is seriously fun to have players from all over playing good cricket together!

Posted by JulianDawson on (January 30, 2013, 12:47 GMT)

I think the counties need to coordinate this policy so that the County Championship is not diluted by losing players to the IPL. Can you imagine any manager in the FA Premiership allowing their players to go to to play in another league in another country for six weeks at the beginning of the season?

Posted by SDHM on (January 30, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

@IndiaNumeroUno - put it this way: if England had a multi-million pound T20 league that clashed with India's main domestic season, would you want Indian players neglecting their sides and burning themselves out, leaving the standard of cricket played back home lower in their absence? No, you wouldn't. I have nothing against the IPL at all - in fact, I really enjoy it in small doses! - but I wouldn't want the strength of the county championship compromised. Players like Bopara, Lumb & Mascarenhas won't exactly set the IPL alight, but they could certainly improve their domestic sides. I'm with Essex on this.

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

@ultimate warrior. You can assume that a decent county player gets about GBP £100,000 (USD $160,000) a year. So any bid beyond that by an IPL side would give them more in terms of money. But it is more complex than that. Would an English county player want to lose their contract and become a T20 specialist, or play all their cricket outside the UK, or give up England ambitions or totally reject the system that developed them. There are T20 alternatives which, unlike IPL, do not clash with the English season after all - although Bangladesh have payment issues and Pakistan is viewed as a security risk. To take a hard line and keep its players I suspect the English system needs a better T20 competition and the switch to Friday nights needs to make an impact. Some suggest that English counties should let their players play IPL and take compensation, but then they do not field their best X1s for the first 6 weeks of the season. While IPL retains its April/May dates there are obvious issues.

Posted by AK47_pk on (January 30, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

Totaly agree with essex.why let a contracted player play for another league during english season? Their are other leagues like PSL to play in which are not clashing with english season.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 30, 2013, 12:10 GMT)

@Eddie Bosano-Andrews : nice official version :).. good try but think we all know the reality. In the end man's free and market forces prevails and any oppressive powers overthrown. Sometimes it takes a while.. but does happen! I don't have anything against English cricket and long may it flourish.. but here's the difference between Indian and English cricket.. we say "ours is good" whilst you say "ours is best - and the rest is bad".. which is very negative and frog in the well mentality. Not sure whether you will understand the point.. but it really doesn't matter :)

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 30, 2013, 12:06 GMT)

IndianNumeroUno - Pietersen wanted to play a full IPL season and retire from ODIs. He's playing half the IPL season this year as usual and has returned to the ODI side. Whatever the basis of the agreement between him and the ECB, it clearly wasn't entirely on his terms. It's a mystery why anyone would want to pretend otherwise.

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 11:56 GMT)

@IndiaNumeroUno Before he flounced off in a blizzard of text messages one of the things KP demanded was a window in the English season for the IPL, that hasn't happened nor did the ECB give in to his demand that he play only Test or T20, he tried to hold the English selectors to ransom and failed.

I think you'll find that KP is playing in the English Test set up on the ECB's terms. The England Test team has been around for 130 years and will survive with or without KP.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 30, 2013, 11:30 GMT)

@Eddie Bosano-Andrews: In the end faced with stark reality the ECB realised that any overseas tour without KP would be a disaster, and blinked first. KP will be playing where he wants and what he wants on HIS terms :)

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (January 30, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

This funnily reminds me of a movie called "The Village" where the inhabitants are scared into straying out of the village... in this case, the "village head" is formed of the county boards and county players are the inhabitants. See the movie and you will know what I mean :))

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

@Rahulbose But in the end when faced with startk reality KP chose to continue with his Test career over the more lucrative IPL, he probably has an eye on posterity and knows that in the future his legacy will be based on his Test and First Class career, so clearly money isn't everything. I see no reason why the ECB need to have a window for what is a domestic Indian competition, if you are contracted to either England or a County then that is where your obligation lies, you can't have your cake and eat it. If some players want to go off down the Chris Gayle route good luck to them, the argument that you deprive England/Counties of quality players is clearly not true in the English set up, it is the County Championship that has produced the likes of Nick Compton and Joe Root. I agree the English season does have too much Cricket and the CB40 and FLT20 need to be done away with and replaced with a new limited overs (for those so inclined) competion.

Posted by o-bomb on (January 30, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

From a county point of view this is definitely a good move. If a player has signed a contract with you, you want him to be available for as much time as possible. If that player goes and signs for an IPL side he is essentially breaking the contract he has with you. As has been alluded to already it is far easier for a county to pick a squad for a whole season than it is to have players coming and going at various time during the year. It creates stability within the team. I'd like to see more counties do this.

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 8:31 GMT)

These players have contracts with counties. In many cases counties who have supported them since schooldays. The professional thing to do is to fulfil your legal and contractural obligations. IPL is not watched or cared about in UK. Its on ITV4 and gets barely 100,000 viewers of which 90 per cent are ex pat Asians. No one in the uk cares about the competition. Given that India are not even very good at the format there hardly seems any reason to play...other than money.

Posted by gsingh7 on (January 30, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

how many english stars went unnoticed for past 4 ipl?? i think it is relatively large number , ipl teams can look back on recent 4 series defeats 5-1 5-0 5-0 3-2 to english teams to ignore these stars , no ipl team want similar fates , also broad left kings 11 bare for 2 season when he broke down without paying single game and making kings 11 play lesser talented aussies in starting 11(broad is no better though , so i thank my stars) david hussey was inspiration for kings as was talented all rounder azhar mahmood who is uk citizen now, these pak and aussie players always fight and not roll over in odis so ipl teams prefer them , i think counties doing ipl a favour by tying these stars to play their high standard game in counties and not compete with wc players like styne gayle clarke and mahela

Posted by lobsterchampion on (January 30, 2013, 7:25 GMT)

It is quite understandable that counties are worried that they will lose key players to IPL and which may affect their chances of winning the title. I think more and more counties will ban their players from participating in IPL. Not that it will affect IPL, IPL as a tournament will still go on. One thing that ECB and the counties have failed to do is adapt. English county season is way too long. Counties play 15-16 first class games per season, add to that 20/20 and 40 over tournaments. There is too much cricket involved in English season. Look at Australia, they play 1/4 the amount of cricket that is played in English county season. I think ECB needs to trim the season a bit, this will help reduce player burnout and may also give opportunity to their players to participate in other leagues.

Posted by Rahulbose on (January 30, 2013, 7:03 GMT)

Well this is a sticky problem for these teams. You can't allow players to skip games to go play IPL. But you are most likely to loose out on quality players if you go with this stand. KP was almost ready to give up playing for Eng national team, what chance does county cricket have.

Posted by ultimatewarrior on (January 30, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

how much a decent player earns in general by playing whole county cricket season....just for my knowledge....

Posted by kingcobra85 on (January 30, 2013, 6:07 GMT)

Big deal english counties dont play the one day very well anyway

Posted by themightyfenoughtys on (January 30, 2013, 1:49 GMT)

Full credit to Notts. Pick a tea, for.a season, not half a season

Posted by JustIPL on (January 30, 2013, 1:26 GMT)

Englsih players participating in IPL has been good for England who won both tests and ODIs and T20s and english players should be allowed to sneak in to indian system if not the main players then the second strings as India also want practice against english players.

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 29, 2013, 22:46 GMT)

hulk777 - False analogy. Essex couldn't care less where the IPL gets replacement players from. It's nothing to do with them. Their obligation to their members is to get value for money from the professionals who have signed a contract with them. Of course players are free to choose between their county and the IPL. However some are not prepared to do that and want to have it both ways.

Posted by hulk777 on (January 29, 2013, 22:17 GMT)

Why are we calling them as professional players if they don't have independence to demand a good pay for their services. If Player X from Essex is not playing in a IPL, they are going to get Player Y from a different country. Its like saying "I am closing my eyes so that the earth will be dark"

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 29, 2013, 22:00 GMT)

@SyedAreYouDumb - Shah, ten Doeschate and, in previous years, Bopara have been bought by IPL franchises. They are required to be in India and available to play, irrespective of whether they are selected in the starting XI. As a result, they miss the first part of the English season. That is what Essex (and other counties holding the contracts of IPL players) are worried about.

Posted by TontonZolaMoukoko on (January 29, 2013, 21:45 GMT)

liaqathussain - Why does the ECB need it's own IPL? A city based franchised system just wouldn't work in England, we support the team and not the player. Our fans need to feel a personal attachment to the teams we watch and we wouldn't feel this to a team made up of players bought in an auction.

Posted by SyedAreYouDumb on (January 29, 2013, 21:14 GMT)

Its not like the English players will be bought, let alone picked in starting XI of any IPL team (of course excluding Pieterson). So why are the counties worrying??

Posted by skilebow on (January 29, 2013, 21:03 GMT)

I don't see why Indians take this as such a personal slight. Its bizarre. Its only counties don't the sensible thing and protecting themselves. Indian fans seem to think that this is somehow an attack on India itself. its not guys, calm down

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 29, 2013, 21:02 GMT)

@Seema Jain - English counties will not be participating in the 2013 Champions League.

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 29, 2013, 20:57 GMT)

@TripleCenturian - Essex have developed quite a few young players, who have then moved on to pastures new. One is currently the England captain. The current generation of younger players is also promising (Topley, Mills, Foakes, Wheater etc) but they will stand a better chance playing alongside more experienced cricketers. Hence the need to find experienced replacements for Cook, Chopra etc. I imagine that Shah's contract allows Essex to refuse him an NOC. Otherwise the discussion Grayson refers to would be singularly pointless.

Posted by cvskrishna on (January 29, 2013, 20:41 GMT)

How many English players have contract with IPL? I think it is 4 and how many of them have done well? Nothing of note except for Peitersen's century last year. IPL is not going to miss them in a million years. Please stay at home

Posted by   on (January 29, 2013, 20:38 GMT)

This is good news, about time that the Counties took a stand to protect the English season as Paul Grayson has put it so clearly " either play for Essex or you play somewhere else".

Posted by   on (January 29, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

Counties first stop their players to appear for IPL and later themselves queue up for CL T-20. Even play the qualifiers for the same.

Posted by MooseHeads on (January 29, 2013, 20:14 GMT)

I can see a lot of comments on applauding the players ban on participating in IPL and needless to say comparing IPL , bollywood ... Do you really think, if are going to worry, if a player playing in Essex, Nots are not going to play in IPL.Its the otherway round. I know its hard for most to digest that IPL is bigger and popular than any leagues around the world but its the fact. Gone are those days where ACB and ECB are the powerful boards. Welcome to the reality.

Posted by willsrustynuts on (January 29, 2013, 20:02 GMT)

I cant imagine any other job where your boss would let you go and work for someone else while the rest of the team are busy with the challenges of a new year.

Time to ditch the 50 and 40 over format entirely and free up some time for these sorts of tournaments. The IPL is good fun and much better than the CB40 and the like.

Posted by shillingsworth on (January 29, 2013, 20:01 GMT)

@Nair_saab - The players are contracted to Essex. They are entitled to withdraw the players' NOCs, as the BCCI has always been at pains to emphasise. It is an issue both for the counties and for the IPL. Where's the 'one upmanship'?

Posted by JG2704 on (January 29, 2013, 19:56 GMT)

I think most counties could afford to let the odd player go but if they let 1 player go , they have to let every player who wants to play IPL go into the auction. Obviously - especially based on past auctions where our players haven't been flavour of the month - the likelihood of IPL sides being interested in many English players is unlikely but there is still that chance. I like Grayson's stance in that if a player comes in and performs well there are no guarantees for the name players to get right back in the side. As a Somerset fan , If Alf or Jos go , I'd like there to be a provision that they play a min amount of games. Alf was regularly benched last year while Somerset were struggling to put out a side

Posted by TripleCenturian on (January 29, 2013, 19:41 GMT)

Did Essex not know about Shah and his IPL involvement when they signed him from Middlesex? If so, why did they not do what Notts have done and impose a clause in his contract to stop him going to the IPL? If not, then they only have themselves to blame for not doing so and perhaps they should have developed a younger player rather than buy in a guy who has talent but lacks the temperament at international level. Bopara has failed for England so many times now that he has lost a central contract presumably and needs any big pay day he can get. If he had succeeded with England in the number six vacant slot, then Essex would be missing him anyway. Essex are poorly managed and always punch well below their weight when you look at their team on paper with too many who flatter to deceive.

Posted by jezmondo on (January 29, 2013, 18:50 GMT)

er nair_saab is this article not about a fairly large tournament in india that involves not only international players but 7 players in each team from your own country? i would say that makes it international cricket news.

Posted by Nair_saab on (January 29, 2013, 18:20 GMT)

i don't know how this news got into the main page of Indian edition of cricinfo. Don't we have any thing going in Indian cricket so that this news is on the main page. Ranji trophy just got completed yesterday, a complete analysis of the same will be of more interest to the Indian audience (at least for me) than a news about English counties. Frankly speaking i don't even know anything about the English first class, hence don't follow it. Fed up with these one-upmanship kind of news articles.

Posted by liaqathussain on (January 29, 2013, 18:19 GMT)

good to see ecb counties take a stand,

ecb need to come up with their own version of the ipl,

i know they have their t20 matches but it needs to be revamped and maybe join with anther country ie pcb(pakistan cricket board) and start a new t20 tournament with international star's

ipl is 2 long and doesn't need to be given so much residence over any form of cricket

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Match drawn
Sussex v Durham at Hove - Sep 24-27, 2013
Sussex won by 6 wickets
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