County cricket June 5, 2014

No Roses return for Flintoff

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Freddie Flintoff takes stunning catch off own bowling

Andrew Flintoff's return to the Lancashire first team has been put on hold after he was omitted from the squad to face Yorkshire on Friday in the T20 Blast.

The Roses match at Old Trafford, which will be on television, had been tipped as a potential comeback date for Flintoff, who has not played fully since 2009, but two appearances - one for his club St Annes and another for the Lancashire 2nd XI - have not been enough to persuade the Lancashire hierarchy that he is worthy of a spot in a side that has won four T20s on a row.

Appearing in the 2nd XI T20 finals day at Arundel on Thursday, Flintoff claimed 2 for 39 and made 16 before falling to a sweep as Lancashire lost their semi-final against Leicestershire.

After his appearance for St Annes, Flintoff acknowledged he would have to fight for his Lancashire spot. "I'm just going to see where it goes. I appreciate that Lancashire are on a roll in Twenty20s and there's Jos and Jimmy and people to come back in to that side. So it's not a gimme that I'm going to play. But I'm going to try to put myself in the frame."

After the Yorkshire match, Lancashire's next T20 fixture is against Leicestershire, at Old Trafford, on June 13.


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  • steve48 on June 6, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Not sure why there is any negative comments here. Freddie having a go, Lancs picking on merit. Problem?

  • on June 6, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    Well Freddie looks thinner now that he has a celebrity-status and the rigors of cricket in all forms in the past, took it's toll on his body, but hopefully by playing just T20, he should be free of that, as long as he can stay fit, he just needs to get more T20 cricket under his belt, i could see him competing at domestic-level soon. I don't think he's quite ready for the match against Yorkshire, but in another month or so, he should be ready.

  • SoyQuearns on June 6, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    @simon_w - Yawn, thanks for allowing my words to affect you enough to attempt to undermine them via comment that pretends not to care, but in the very effort of posting anything confirms you cared.

    @Narkovian - my issue and point is twofold:

    1. This whole stunt is silly.

    2. The current English admin won't pick a bloke like Fred anyway as, even if he's past his prime, he's got too much flair.

    @woodgreen - yes, Moeen looks the goods, I speak more in terms of your developed players. Prior is entertaining insofar as he could get out any second, Stokes is very raw but has ticker, Jordan handy but not a test player.

    Bell is a good player, but he's not an entertaining player. His compact technique is undeniable, but he's no KP to watch.

  • on June 6, 2014, 9:31 GMT

    I despair. What on earth is the point of all this 'Flintoff Returns' nonsense if he is not actually going to play?

  • woodgreen on June 6, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Re SoyQuearns.Moeen Ali,Stokes,Jordan grey and boring?Prior,Bell and Monty??Are we watching the same team.And whilst i am a big supporter of Carberry the second he puts an England shirt on for some reason his usually outstanding fielding goes to pot which probably contributes to his dropping as much as anything. And good luck to Flintoff,hes got to earn his place and he knows that,its fair enough not to change a winning side

  • Baundele on June 6, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    Flintoff has almost single-handedly carried the burden of English cricket for a few years, when they were really on a low. He did a much better job than his stats shows. I thought he is 40+ and retired from all forms of cricket. Just checked that he is only 36 and still willing to play. I would love to watch him play.

  • LancsRedRose on June 6, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    While it would be fun to see Flintoff back, the T20 is an important county competition that Lancs want to win. The team is currently playing well (in the T20 at least) & like any other player, Freddie has to earn his place on merit. I'm glad that Lancs have not gone for the possible short-term box office rewards. However, if there are any injuries or loss of form in the team later in the season, then bring on Freddie!

  • simon_w on June 6, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    @SoyQuearns -- yawn... thanks for your contribution...

  • Narkovian on June 6, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    @SoyQuearns... Not quite sure what y're saying. First you seem to be agreeing it was ill-conceived for FF to return ( I fully agree BTW). Then go off on one about the lack of flair in England side. Has Lancashire's decision not to play FF got something to do with the latter ?/... I am confused. Anyway, I am glad he won't have the chance to embarrass himself. And also glad that the current Lancs players will play instead.. as they should.

  • SoyQuearns on June 6, 2014, 4:34 GMT

    This is becoming further and further embarrassing for Flintoff, Lancashire and English Cricket.

    It was a stunt that was ill-informed and has gotten more farcical and embarrassing every day since it actually got legs.

    Fred was a reasonable cricketer in his heyday (32 with bat, 33 with ball, that's solid enough, but far from great, which he most definitely never was) and he can't do any worse than any other English cricketer getting around.

    But he's got too much flair, attitude and aggression. Carberry gone for having same. KP permanently gone for having same. Nobody is going to pick Fred as he's too exciting. Eng cricket is all about playing for the draw and Cook setting retreat fields and Jimmy Anderson bowling at 30 runs a wicket.

    Broad and Buttler are the only entertaining cricketers England has left. For the sake of their fans, I hope to God the English Admin keeps them aboard. The rest are faceless and grey and boring.

  • steve48 on June 6, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Not sure why there is any negative comments here. Freddie having a go, Lancs picking on merit. Problem?

  • on June 6, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    Well Freddie looks thinner now that he has a celebrity-status and the rigors of cricket in all forms in the past, took it's toll on his body, but hopefully by playing just T20, he should be free of that, as long as he can stay fit, he just needs to get more T20 cricket under his belt, i could see him competing at domestic-level soon. I don't think he's quite ready for the match against Yorkshire, but in another month or so, he should be ready.

  • SoyQuearns on June 6, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    @simon_w - Yawn, thanks for allowing my words to affect you enough to attempt to undermine them via comment that pretends not to care, but in the very effort of posting anything confirms you cared.

    @Narkovian - my issue and point is twofold:

    1. This whole stunt is silly.

    2. The current English admin won't pick a bloke like Fred anyway as, even if he's past his prime, he's got too much flair.

    @woodgreen - yes, Moeen looks the goods, I speak more in terms of your developed players. Prior is entertaining insofar as he could get out any second, Stokes is very raw but has ticker, Jordan handy but not a test player.

    Bell is a good player, but he's not an entertaining player. His compact technique is undeniable, but he's no KP to watch.

  • on June 6, 2014, 9:31 GMT

    I despair. What on earth is the point of all this 'Flintoff Returns' nonsense if he is not actually going to play?

  • woodgreen on June 6, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Re SoyQuearns.Moeen Ali,Stokes,Jordan grey and boring?Prior,Bell and Monty??Are we watching the same team.And whilst i am a big supporter of Carberry the second he puts an England shirt on for some reason his usually outstanding fielding goes to pot which probably contributes to his dropping as much as anything. And good luck to Flintoff,hes got to earn his place and he knows that,its fair enough not to change a winning side

  • Baundele on June 6, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    Flintoff has almost single-handedly carried the burden of English cricket for a few years, when they were really on a low. He did a much better job than his stats shows. I thought he is 40+ and retired from all forms of cricket. Just checked that he is only 36 and still willing to play. I would love to watch him play.

  • LancsRedRose on June 6, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    While it would be fun to see Flintoff back, the T20 is an important county competition that Lancs want to win. The team is currently playing well (in the T20 at least) & like any other player, Freddie has to earn his place on merit. I'm glad that Lancs have not gone for the possible short-term box office rewards. However, if there are any injuries or loss of form in the team later in the season, then bring on Freddie!

  • simon_w on June 6, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    @SoyQuearns -- yawn... thanks for your contribution...

  • Narkovian on June 6, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    @SoyQuearns... Not quite sure what y're saying. First you seem to be agreeing it was ill-conceived for FF to return ( I fully agree BTW). Then go off on one about the lack of flair in England side. Has Lancashire's decision not to play FF got something to do with the latter ?/... I am confused. Anyway, I am glad he won't have the chance to embarrass himself. And also glad that the current Lancs players will play instead.. as they should.

  • SoyQuearns on June 6, 2014, 4:34 GMT

    This is becoming further and further embarrassing for Flintoff, Lancashire and English Cricket.

    It was a stunt that was ill-informed and has gotten more farcical and embarrassing every day since it actually got legs.

    Fred was a reasonable cricketer in his heyday (32 with bat, 33 with ball, that's solid enough, but far from great, which he most definitely never was) and he can't do any worse than any other English cricketer getting around.

    But he's got too much flair, attitude and aggression. Carberry gone for having same. KP permanently gone for having same. Nobody is going to pick Fred as he's too exciting. Eng cricket is all about playing for the draw and Cook setting retreat fields and Jimmy Anderson bowling at 30 runs a wicket.

    Broad and Buttler are the only entertaining cricketers England has left. For the sake of their fans, I hope to God the English Admin keeps them aboard. The rest are faceless and grey and boring.

  • on June 6, 2014, 4:22 GMT

    @nathaniel dixon: you're quite right. t20 is there to provide fun and bring in the crowds. no one expects it to be a pointer for more serious games, no matter what those cheerleaders for jos buttler and alex hales say. despite his many faults, andrew flintoff is a crowd-puller, and it is terminally pompous (and self-defeating) of lancashire to not play him. he is an icon of the days when england actually did have a good side, and if there s no room for sentiment in cricket, the game is the loser

  • siddhartha87 on June 6, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    get Flintoff ready for 2015 wc

  • Ms.Cricket on June 6, 2014, 1:28 GMT

    Flintoff is being rested so that he can be drafted into the England playing XI in the First Test.

  • on June 5, 2014, 22:11 GMT

    Come on Lancashire! Everyone wants to see Freddy play, stop spoiling the fun. It's good for the box office and entertainment, isn't that what the 20-20 is all about?

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  • on June 5, 2014, 22:11 GMT

    Come on Lancashire! Everyone wants to see Freddy play, stop spoiling the fun. It's good for the box office and entertainment, isn't that what the 20-20 is all about?

  • Ms.Cricket on June 6, 2014, 1:28 GMT

    Flintoff is being rested so that he can be drafted into the England playing XI in the First Test.

  • siddhartha87 on June 6, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    get Flintoff ready for 2015 wc

  • on June 6, 2014, 4:22 GMT

    @nathaniel dixon: you're quite right. t20 is there to provide fun and bring in the crowds. no one expects it to be a pointer for more serious games, no matter what those cheerleaders for jos buttler and alex hales say. despite his many faults, andrew flintoff is a crowd-puller, and it is terminally pompous (and self-defeating) of lancashire to not play him. he is an icon of the days when england actually did have a good side, and if there s no room for sentiment in cricket, the game is the loser

  • SoyQuearns on June 6, 2014, 4:34 GMT

    This is becoming further and further embarrassing for Flintoff, Lancashire and English Cricket.

    It was a stunt that was ill-informed and has gotten more farcical and embarrassing every day since it actually got legs.

    Fred was a reasonable cricketer in his heyday (32 with bat, 33 with ball, that's solid enough, but far from great, which he most definitely never was) and he can't do any worse than any other English cricketer getting around.

    But he's got too much flair, attitude and aggression. Carberry gone for having same. KP permanently gone for having same. Nobody is going to pick Fred as he's too exciting. Eng cricket is all about playing for the draw and Cook setting retreat fields and Jimmy Anderson bowling at 30 runs a wicket.

    Broad and Buttler are the only entertaining cricketers England has left. For the sake of their fans, I hope to God the English Admin keeps them aboard. The rest are faceless and grey and boring.

  • Narkovian on June 6, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    @SoyQuearns... Not quite sure what y're saying. First you seem to be agreeing it was ill-conceived for FF to return ( I fully agree BTW). Then go off on one about the lack of flair in England side. Has Lancashire's decision not to play FF got something to do with the latter ?/... I am confused. Anyway, I am glad he won't have the chance to embarrass himself. And also glad that the current Lancs players will play instead.. as they should.

  • simon_w on June 6, 2014, 6:39 GMT

    @SoyQuearns -- yawn... thanks for your contribution...

  • LancsRedRose on June 6, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    While it would be fun to see Flintoff back, the T20 is an important county competition that Lancs want to win. The team is currently playing well (in the T20 at least) & like any other player, Freddie has to earn his place on merit. I'm glad that Lancs have not gone for the possible short-term box office rewards. However, if there are any injuries or loss of form in the team later in the season, then bring on Freddie!

  • Baundele on June 6, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    Flintoff has almost single-handedly carried the burden of English cricket for a few years, when they were really on a low. He did a much better job than his stats shows. I thought he is 40+ and retired from all forms of cricket. Just checked that he is only 36 and still willing to play. I would love to watch him play.

  • woodgreen on June 6, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Re SoyQuearns.Moeen Ali,Stokes,Jordan grey and boring?Prior,Bell and Monty??Are we watching the same team.And whilst i am a big supporter of Carberry the second he puts an England shirt on for some reason his usually outstanding fielding goes to pot which probably contributes to his dropping as much as anything. And good luck to Flintoff,hes got to earn his place and he knows that,its fair enough not to change a winning side