England v Australia 2010 July 2, 2010

Ashes loss could end Ponting's captaincy

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Ricky Ponting expects his reign as Australian captain to end if he is not holding the Ashes at the SCG in January. Ponting was in charge during the 2005 and 2009 defeats in England, and led his side to a 5-0 whitewash at home three years ago.

Despite being one of the game's all-time greats with the bat, Ponting knows his future depends on the result of the 2010-11 series. "I'd probably be looking for a new job if we lose again," Ponting told the Daily Mail. "It's as simple as that. I've got the biggest eight months of my career coming up."

Australia face Pakistan and India in two-Test series before the Ashes begin at the Gabba in November and the series is followed by the World Cup. "It doesn't get any bigger than that and everything I do between now and April will be geared at getting the most out of myself and, most importantly, the group," he said. "If I'm able to do that I think there are some pretty special things on the horizon for this team."

While the Ashes series is likely to determine what Ponting does next, he said he was not weighed down by the significance of the contest. "I haven't thought about any added pressure on me," he said. "I'm just thinking about being the best player I can be and having a significant impact on the Ashes series as a batsman and as a leader. That's all I can control. I know what it takes to be a good player in a big series and I know what it will take for the rest of the guys."

England have beaten Australia in their most important encounters over the past year. The run began with their Ashes victory at The Oval and continued with a win in the World Twenty20 final and the current one-day series success.

Ponting said England deserved the latest triumph but does not think they have earned bragging rights in all forms of the game. "We're still ranked the best side in one-day cricket and No. 2 in Test cricket," Ponting said. "Until England get their heads above us in all of the tables then superiority will be with us."

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  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 6, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Since its a discussion of world number one batsmen and genuine allrounder Kallis figures with similar number of Sachin and Lara he definitely deserves a mention here. He has been the best allrounder ever as an allrounder his efforts can never be matched may be someone playing 200 TESTS can break all sachin and LARA records and someone playing 50 tests break bradmans records but something which is unbreakable is Allround efforts of Kallis and no one can even dream of going near that elite club of 10K runs in tests and ODIS and 250 + wickets in TESTS and ODIS. regarding greatest Batsmen cannot compare Bradman with any of this generation players so he will be old number one(beating his generation batsmen by avg 30+) in current generation there is no clear winner LARA = SACHIN!!!!!

  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 6, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    Sachin can only be compared with likes of his generation with players who had more then 100+ tests out of them we can clearly say that SRT,LARA,kallis,Ponting are above all both in terms of avg,centuries,TOP SCORES. here Ponting is one notch below rest just cos of his last 1 year. LARA SRT played almost same bowlers in similar conditions . What did sachin achieve more then LARA nothing just number of centuries. By comparing number of tests and innings when lara retired. Sachin took more innings and tests and avged less with Lara bagging highest test scores twice which sachin cannot even dream of to all SRT fans this is a fact and Sachin just had more number of centuries both in ODIs and Tests thats his saving grace . After scoring 200 in ODI now i can rate Lara and Sachin as peers. No wonder none of SRT fans agree but matter of fact sachin was never greater then lara. They were equal there is no clear winner in this discussion . to be continued

  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 6, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    To godFather and all GOD supporters. I am an Indian and i definitely like sachin but that doesn't mean rest of players and there performance is underrated. According to me Sachin can never be compared to Bradman. He is from different generation and was far better then any of batsmen of his generation atleast by 30 avg points Sachin is better then his generation players just by avg of 1 or 2 runs or sometimes he avgs less. Question of domination of sachin is being called greatest is out. Only thing that sachin carries is number of Centuries from when did number of centuries became a bigger parameter then Average or highest scores. All sachin fans want is that entire world look up at number of centuries or total number of runs. Thats illogical. If sachin was God he would have atleast had 20 more average then any of his ERA greats which he didnot . i can even say that Rahul dravid and jack kallis maintained better avg then sachin for most of there prime. to be continued

  • on July 5, 2010, 7:23 GMT

    punter is a good batsman and a captain that no one should refuse but he lacks consistency and good set of players.he shouldn't end his career.

  • BillyCC on July 5, 2010, 0:43 GMT

    Finally I do believe (as Godfather007 has rightly pointed out) that it is unfair to compare players of different eras. This is not to say that you can't build a case for calling someone the best batsman of all time. The person easiest to build this case for is Bradman because of the statistical superiority. It is also difficult to build a case against Bradman as we can see. The case for Tendulkar is compelling also, but it is easier to build a case against him. He is still very much a great player and the pressure factor and longevity puts him in good stead in these debates. Since this forum is about Ponting, I would like to say that he also is a great batsman and deserves to be up with the greats of the modern generation.

  • BillyCC on July 5, 2010, 0:27 GMT

    Godather007, you also need to clearly research other aspects of the game and its context to appreciate the full history. I see you conveniently left out anything about World War 2 or the Great Depression. This is a different pressure, but it is pressure. And you have gotten a lot of facts wrong which discredit your argument. I didn't know that every match that Bradman played that he came in at 1/200. If that was the case, then I would agree that you have a strong argument against Bradman. But sadly, if this was the case, the openers for Australia would also be averaging 100 each by logic. And your comments about Bodyline are just wrong. Firstly he averaged 56 which is higher than Tendulkar's average. So even when all your conditions of pressure and batting difficulty are met, he still performed well. And secondly, do you know how difficult it is to bat without a helmet and bowlers are bowling at your chest, ribs, and head? Technology in cricket always works both ways.

  • BillyCC on July 5, 2010, 0:09 GMT

    Sorry Godfather007, all your points just prove that you don't like to compare generations, not that Sachin was better than Bradman. The fact is, you have absolutely no idea whether Bradman was fit, how Bradman coped under pressure, and how Bradman would cope with the technology of today's game. You also offend all the bowlers of those generations by saying they were no good when you have absolutely no idea whether they were or not. And Hadlee never said Tendulkar was the greatest, just that he could arguably be the greatest player of all time. I can come up with counter arguments for everything you've said which can build a case for why Bradman is arguably the greatest batsman of all time. I could also come up with arguments for why Tendulkar could be considered the greatest batsman of all time. But the case for him is not as strong. Have a read of a previous forum where a forum member Xoxile came up with some strong arguments against Bradman.

  • crktcrazzy on July 4, 2010, 17:20 GMT

    @ everybody the problem is if aus wins it is because of the rest of 10 players if ind wins its bcos of sachin, don't know on wht basis warne is a better captain just bcos he won ipl 1 a 20 over 3rd cls tournament. there is nothing in the world to measure captaincy only u can look at the record and ponting as the best record in test,odi,won both the wc undefeated he never sits on a situation always proactive recently had an undefeated summer with an inexperienced team which msd cant dream of even with the likes of sewag, gam, dravid laxman, yuvraj, himself, zaheer, harbhajan. he is easily the best captain. lots of indians r emotional they hate ponting because of sydney fiasco, in which ponting was not to be blamed umpires were and that was not the first time umpire got it wrong, sometimes it favours india sometimes other, infact indian reacted stupidly n r now feeling ashamed

  • crktcrazzy on July 4, 2010, 8:28 GMT

    @ natmastak sachin avg 36 in 4th innings. punter avg 48 against india,60 against sl,80 against pak teams with great spinners. sachin plays ipl but rests for asia cup(even after a 1 month rest) and now he is still resting..... still resting.........................still resting does nt have any responsibilty does not captain the side, is not the main stay in batting, poor fielder virtually always out of field in this fashion he can continue for another 10 yrs now ponting captain of youn side with most members have played less than 50 odi, best fielder never misses a series never seen him out of field

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:55 GMT

    In the year 1998 he was judged second none to other than Sir Don Bradman by every Australian after those 2 back to back hundreds at Sharjah. In next few years almost every Cricket expert believed that Sachin is next to Sir Don, but in last 1 and half year, former cricketers started saying that he has passed Sir Don and he is above Sir Don. Sir Richard Hadlee rated Tendulkar even higher than Don Bradman, considering Indian batsman's staggering success in both the long and short formats of the game. And when Sachin became the 1st man on earth to score double hundred against South Africa early this year, the same captain who asked his bowler to bowl negative line to frustrate Sachin Tendulkar, rated Sachin above Bradman.....Finally, its unfair to compare the two batsmen of different era but then it would also be unfair to call Sir Don as the greatest batsmen of "all times". I hope all fans would agree with me.

  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 6, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Since its a discussion of world number one batsmen and genuine allrounder Kallis figures with similar number of Sachin and Lara he definitely deserves a mention here. He has been the best allrounder ever as an allrounder his efforts can never be matched may be someone playing 200 TESTS can break all sachin and LARA records and someone playing 50 tests break bradmans records but something which is unbreakable is Allround efforts of Kallis and no one can even dream of going near that elite club of 10K runs in tests and ODIS and 250 + wickets in TESTS and ODIS. regarding greatest Batsmen cannot compare Bradman with any of this generation players so he will be old number one(beating his generation batsmen by avg 30+) in current generation there is no clear winner LARA = SACHIN!!!!!

  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 6, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    Sachin can only be compared with likes of his generation with players who had more then 100+ tests out of them we can clearly say that SRT,LARA,kallis,Ponting are above all both in terms of avg,centuries,TOP SCORES. here Ponting is one notch below rest just cos of his last 1 year. LARA SRT played almost same bowlers in similar conditions . What did sachin achieve more then LARA nothing just number of centuries. By comparing number of tests and innings when lara retired. Sachin took more innings and tests and avged less with Lara bagging highest test scores twice which sachin cannot even dream of to all SRT fans this is a fact and Sachin just had more number of centuries both in ODIs and Tests thats his saving grace . After scoring 200 in ODI now i can rate Lara and Sachin as peers. No wonder none of SRT fans agree but matter of fact sachin was never greater then lara. They were equal there is no clear winner in this discussion . to be continued

  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 6, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    To godFather and all GOD supporters. I am an Indian and i definitely like sachin but that doesn't mean rest of players and there performance is underrated. According to me Sachin can never be compared to Bradman. He is from different generation and was far better then any of batsmen of his generation atleast by 30 avg points Sachin is better then his generation players just by avg of 1 or 2 runs or sometimes he avgs less. Question of domination of sachin is being called greatest is out. Only thing that sachin carries is number of Centuries from when did number of centuries became a bigger parameter then Average or highest scores. All sachin fans want is that entire world look up at number of centuries or total number of runs. Thats illogical. If sachin was God he would have atleast had 20 more average then any of his ERA greats which he didnot . i can even say that Rahul dravid and jack kallis maintained better avg then sachin for most of there prime. to be continued

  • on July 5, 2010, 7:23 GMT

    punter is a good batsman and a captain that no one should refuse but he lacks consistency and good set of players.he shouldn't end his career.

  • BillyCC on July 5, 2010, 0:43 GMT

    Finally I do believe (as Godfather007 has rightly pointed out) that it is unfair to compare players of different eras. This is not to say that you can't build a case for calling someone the best batsman of all time. The person easiest to build this case for is Bradman because of the statistical superiority. It is also difficult to build a case against Bradman as we can see. The case for Tendulkar is compelling also, but it is easier to build a case against him. He is still very much a great player and the pressure factor and longevity puts him in good stead in these debates. Since this forum is about Ponting, I would like to say that he also is a great batsman and deserves to be up with the greats of the modern generation.

  • BillyCC on July 5, 2010, 0:27 GMT

    Godather007, you also need to clearly research other aspects of the game and its context to appreciate the full history. I see you conveniently left out anything about World War 2 or the Great Depression. This is a different pressure, but it is pressure. And you have gotten a lot of facts wrong which discredit your argument. I didn't know that every match that Bradman played that he came in at 1/200. If that was the case, then I would agree that you have a strong argument against Bradman. But sadly, if this was the case, the openers for Australia would also be averaging 100 each by logic. And your comments about Bodyline are just wrong. Firstly he averaged 56 which is higher than Tendulkar's average. So even when all your conditions of pressure and batting difficulty are met, he still performed well. And secondly, do you know how difficult it is to bat without a helmet and bowlers are bowling at your chest, ribs, and head? Technology in cricket always works both ways.

  • BillyCC on July 5, 2010, 0:09 GMT

    Sorry Godfather007, all your points just prove that you don't like to compare generations, not that Sachin was better than Bradman. The fact is, you have absolutely no idea whether Bradman was fit, how Bradman coped under pressure, and how Bradman would cope with the technology of today's game. You also offend all the bowlers of those generations by saying they were no good when you have absolutely no idea whether they were or not. And Hadlee never said Tendulkar was the greatest, just that he could arguably be the greatest player of all time. I can come up with counter arguments for everything you've said which can build a case for why Bradman is arguably the greatest batsman of all time. I could also come up with arguments for why Tendulkar could be considered the greatest batsman of all time. But the case for him is not as strong. Have a read of a previous forum where a forum member Xoxile came up with some strong arguments against Bradman.

  • crktcrazzy on July 4, 2010, 17:20 GMT

    @ everybody the problem is if aus wins it is because of the rest of 10 players if ind wins its bcos of sachin, don't know on wht basis warne is a better captain just bcos he won ipl 1 a 20 over 3rd cls tournament. there is nothing in the world to measure captaincy only u can look at the record and ponting as the best record in test,odi,won both the wc undefeated he never sits on a situation always proactive recently had an undefeated summer with an inexperienced team which msd cant dream of even with the likes of sewag, gam, dravid laxman, yuvraj, himself, zaheer, harbhajan. he is easily the best captain. lots of indians r emotional they hate ponting because of sydney fiasco, in which ponting was not to be blamed umpires were and that was not the first time umpire got it wrong, sometimes it favours india sometimes other, infact indian reacted stupidly n r now feeling ashamed

  • crktcrazzy on July 4, 2010, 8:28 GMT

    @ natmastak sachin avg 36 in 4th innings. punter avg 48 against india,60 against sl,80 against pak teams with great spinners. sachin plays ipl but rests for asia cup(even after a 1 month rest) and now he is still resting..... still resting.........................still resting does nt have any responsibilty does not captain the side, is not the main stay in batting, poor fielder virtually always out of field in this fashion he can continue for another 10 yrs now ponting captain of youn side with most members have played less than 50 odi, best fielder never misses a series never seen him out of field

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:55 GMT

    In the year 1998 he was judged second none to other than Sir Don Bradman by every Australian after those 2 back to back hundreds at Sharjah. In next few years almost every Cricket expert believed that Sachin is next to Sir Don, but in last 1 and half year, former cricketers started saying that he has passed Sir Don and he is above Sir Don. Sir Richard Hadlee rated Tendulkar even higher than Don Bradman, considering Indian batsman's staggering success in both the long and short formats of the game. And when Sachin became the 1st man on earth to score double hundred against South Africa early this year, the same captain who asked his bowler to bowl negative line to frustrate Sachin Tendulkar, rated Sachin above Bradman.....Finally, its unfair to compare the two batsmen of different era but then it would also be unfair to call Sir Don as the greatest batsmen of "all times". I hope all fans would agree with me.

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:52 GMT

    True that the average of 99.94 is considered to be top achievement in any sport statistically, however Cricket is not just a game of averages. There are many other things which should be consider like the standard of playing cricket. Nowadays so much of technology is used so that you can take out weak areas of a particular player. The standard of fielding is just too good. The Media hype and pressure is so much. Lots of cricket played, scoring in every part of the world. Sachin not only plays role in batting but also in many other areas like as he is never afraid of taking responsibilities. Tendulkar took the ball from Azhar and Kapil in Hero Cup Semifinal and bowled the last over and did not let South Africa to score 6 runs to win the match. Just imagine if those runs were scored. Public and Media of India would have definitely gone after the little master. And if that's not enough he is partially playing a role of mentor/coach of Indian team.to be cont...

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:47 GMT

    5. Technology In Bradman's time it was not easy to pick one's weakness just standing at slips or point. That's why Jardine had to use the theory of bowling on chest height to stop Bradman from scoring runs. Its true that then there was no such equipment like helmet, arm-guards to save you but then apart from Bodyline series there were no such instance where batsmen had to really save themselves from truly fast bowling. Interestingly, though Sachin plays few shots in the air when he tries to play drives on rising delivery (thanks to Today's technology) and many captain tried to get his wicket at the early part of his innings, Nasser Hussain tried something different to get his wicket, by not letting him to score freely against his bowlers (though Sachin still had the second best strike rate after Sehwag in that series for India).To be cont.......

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:46 GMT

    Excluding Larwood Bradman never played any quality bowlers. (and the other 2 were CV Grimmett & RR Lindwall, who belong to his own country) He never played against a bowler who bowls something like 160kmph+ on hard fast pitch where batsman hardly gets a chance to think of what should be played, whereas Sachin played against Ambrose-Walsh-Bishop, Wasim-Waqar-Akhtar, McGrath-Lee-Gilespie, Donald-Pollock, Warne-Murli and many more. The swing was unknown during that time, Sachin has to play reverse swing, which was no one could even imagined.

    The fielder shattering stumps from the boundary was unheard in Bradman's time. Just see the class of fielding nowadays, Rhodes, Ponting, Gibbs. The standard of fielding is far much better than it was in that time!

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:45 GMT

    4. Opposition Bradman played mostly against England and he got used to that bowling thats why scored over 5000 runs with an average of around 92. One series against each minnows [India, SouthAfrica and WestIndies were new in cricket that time] and scored heavily against them. Never played in Indian Sub-Continent against Indian spinners. Playing at Indian pitches is never been easy for any batsman.Nowdays Australian thinks Ricky Ponting is the best batsman after Bradman from Australia. Look his record in India! Sachin's average in Australia is above 54. A batsman is perfect when he scores against really class bowlings.To be cont......

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:42 GMT

    3. Position of Batting Bradman usually came at no.3 or no.4 and mostly when the score were 176 for 1 or 217 for 2. No pressure!! Just play the natural game and dominated the bowling. Unlike Sachin, Bradman had some really good openers from the start of his career. Woodfull & Ponsford had career average of 45+, Sachin usually came at no.4 & mostly when India lost both the openers with the scoreboard reading something 20-2!!! And then this best batsman of all time rescues the team. In Onedayers Sachin opens and starts blazing guns from the beginning and then steady in middle overs and again all guns blazing in last 10 overs. And at 37, if you are still able to do after playing 20 years, then it's surely a remarkable thing ! To be cont.....

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:40 GMT

    After every ball you have to look at the score board, have to accelerate anytime in the innings many times from the beginning, pressure with no rest virtually ! Though he's is playing T-20 also at domestic level, but T-20 is just not the cricket. (You don't have plan when you go out to bat, just go and hit). It is because of the no. of Tests played now that we can note a remarkable achievement from Sachin who had already scored 24 Test hundreds before his 28th birthday. This in no way undermines Bradman's score of amassing whopping 452 runs in just 415 minutes!!! But that was precisely because the over rates during that time were far superior than now.

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:39 GMT

    2.Fitness Bradman played 52 tests in 20 years whereas Sachin has played 162 tests in 20 years. In Bradman's time not many matches were played. Players easily got 7-8 days of gap in between 2 tests of a series. In one year only 4-5 tests were played. There were no one dayers. Nowadays there are too much of ODI's. Once a series starts, you don't get any chance to take rest. 5 ODI get completed in 12-13 days and as soon as ODI series is over, the Test series starts and between tests only 3 days of gap. No rest for players & they have to play each test and ODI. In Bradman's times you could get 7-8 days for rest & not only that, Bradman played some tests which were of just 3 days, and in almost every test he played, there was a rest day in between, so fitness level and total numbers of matches 4-5 and look at today's cricket, atleast 10 Tests and 30 ODIs each year and in ODI's you just can't play cricket with peace at all.To be cont........

  • Godfather007 on July 4, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    Mr BillyCC let me present my views on how the GOD outscores the Don. 1.Pressure Tendulkar plays under huge pressure. 1 billion+ people expecting you to perform in each and every match. To perform consistently well for 20 years as per expectations is just Brilliant! Bradman never had such pressure in his whole career apart from bodyline series and in his last innings against England. And just look what pressure can do. His average which was usually over 100 in maximum series came down to just 52 in bodyline series. When the whole world was watching him to score just 4 runs in his last innings he couldn't even score those runs. This is what pressure is all about. And Tendulkar goes through such pressure in each every match. Even the matches against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. With one failure public, media, everyone in India starts criticizing the Greats of Indian cricket. Still he is performing consistently. Isn't this amazing?To be cont......

  • on July 4, 2010, 6:41 GMT

    I think there has been enof doubt about who's the best.Let me conclude saying that Ponting has always been a very good batsmen but he is not the batsmen to watch even in the Aussie team,players like Mark Waugh,Damien Martyn ,hayden,hussy,gilly are far better than punter.@crazy talkd abt ponting hooking and pulling steyn.i remember him HUMPING & JUMPING(As SNP Dog says) to bowlers like Ameer,Roach recently ...such an odd scene to watch.All those talks of Aussie rule in the last decade or ashes wins is only because Australia had 10 other players in the team many ways equal or even better then ponting.Look at them losing series against England as no macgra,lee,warne,haydo,gilly in the team. Bradman, since we have not seen him dono how good he would be in all the versions.Of course his test average is unbelievable but can't call him the best looking at only test records.If so, then Chapell bro are better than Ponting. So,Sachin the BEST .LARA cums closer.Ponting is far away.

  • _Australian_ on July 4, 2010, 6:31 GMT

    Godfather007 how offensive your rants have become. I suggest you go back and look through all articles you have commented in and have a good read. The only person here with an obbsession is you with you love of a cricketer called Tendulkar and his apparent otherworldly ability claiming him to be god. Your are also clearly obsessed with a dislike of Ponting and Australia which I can only assume stems from jelousy due to our domination of the game over the past 20 odd years. I personally am not a big fan of Ponting's. I thought Australia should have selected Warne to captain the side and think Ponting is one of the worst captain's Australia has ever had. But he is a damn fine batsman who has the scores and record to prove it. I am also a fan of Tendulkar. My annoyance is why do you continue to berate Ponting. Why can't you accept his ability and why do you need to negatively comment about him so much. I hope these "imature utterings" make sense to you.

  • natmastak_so-called on July 4, 2010, 3:21 GMT

    @crktcrazzy. Which stats are you talking about ? I think God in australia vs punter in India should be enough for you mate. Think,u've derived your own set of stats.get real.and when punter himself admits,he's not as great as God,who are u to hoist punter's flag.

  • MONASHKB on July 4, 2010, 2:52 GMT

    Comparing batsmen will always be open to conjecture, but we can be assured that Bradman is clearly the greatest batsman of all time. While Bradman only played 52 tests due to war, etc, his test career did span 20 years and he still annihilated test teams at the end of his career. Bradman managed 30,000+ first class runs over those 20 years at an average of 95! He also held the highest score in first class cricket (ie. 452) and scored a century in a session in a test match on 3 occasions - on one day! We can only salivate at how he would have dismantled bowling attacks in the limited overs versions of the game. One could go on forever about other players, but they are always compared to Bradman - he is simply the best.

  • Scgboy on July 4, 2010, 2:18 GMT

    His a legend. no doubts about it but he will not be forgiven , if they lose the ashes again.

  • BillyCC on July 3, 2010, 23:07 GMT

    Your third point is just plain ridiculous. By all reports, not just biased ones, Bradman scored quickly, even more quickly than Tendulkar in Test cricket. So logic states that he could easily have translated this to other formats of the game. And your final point about Tendulkar's records vs Bradman's records. Only a handful of Tendulkar's records stick out in the memory, and all are due to his longevity, which I have commented is truly great. Bradman's records are a combination of being timeless and some are standard deviations away from the NEXT BEST in that category. I apologise to people interested in reading about Ponting in this thread. On this point, I agree with Godfather007 that Tendulkar is ahead of him in an all-time sense.

  • BillyCC on July 3, 2010, 22:58 GMT

    Godfather007, your first point is so badly off the mark. Bradman did actually play for a 20 year period with a very long break during something called the Second World War. You stated in your argument about playing non-stop cricket. I can turn your statement around. How great is a player who after having endured a period of time seeing your mates die, and uncertainty about your country, and not putting in endless hours of cricket training for many years, AND STILL AVERAGE 73 in a five-test series AT THE AGE OF 40? Your second point has only a little merit. Sachin has amazing longevity in all forms of the game, but again, only 3 or 4 opponents at any one time have tested him and all batsman of the past two decades. Australia and South Africa have always been up there, and at various stages BUT NEVER ALL AT THE SAME TIME , West Indies in the early 90s, Pakistan in the early and mid 90s, Sri Lanka for a brief period, and England now, have presented challenges. To be cont'd

  • BillyCC on July 3, 2010, 22:43 GMT

    Godfather007, I can agree with you that Tendulkar is a better batsman than Ponting, but not with the comparison against Bradman. There have been debates in Cricinfo over the years on the topic of whether Bradman is the greatest batsman of all time, or whether he is only just a great batsman. People who are not convinced that he is have brought up some good points on why. In all cases, their choice of who is the greatest batsman is different. Some say Sobers, some say Tendulkar, some say Richards. The only consistent thread is that Bradman is always first and foremost in consideration as the best batsman of all time even if people can argue that he is not. But all the points you have brought up are flawed in this debate and so I must conclude you lack the general history or knowledge to comment on this. To be cont'd.

  • needgreenpitches4bowlingallrounders on July 3, 2010, 21:18 GMT

    this is getting crazy in here. I am an indian but that doesn't mean i need to support SRT. Best players according to me you cannot find much difference btw top 3 and i don't see ricky in that. Not even me look at ALL TIME ELEVEN AUSTRALIA RICKY IS NOT HERE EVEN. This is not my list this is cricinfos. its Bradman by statistics. Sachin by over all . Lara by number of records broken. Where is ricky he doesn't fit into his own australian eleven who can you compare ricky to Sachin.if so whole all-time XI is flawed. But i belive the selectors have taken closer look at each and every position and did included best XI . so IF RICKY DOESN'T FEATURE IN AUSTRALIAN ALL TIME XI. how can he be better then SRT :) only Bradman can match SRT statistically and Lara with his statistics. Avg more then SRT in same number of games and runs more then SRT. if SRT has number of centuries lara has 3 highest scores in professional formats. so its Even LARA=SRT but less then bradman

  • Godfather007 on July 3, 2010, 20:17 GMT

    Mr SeaforthA1 let me show u d mirror coz all u Ponting & Bradman obsessed fans r still living in the dark.R u damn sure Bradman would have maintained the same consistency levels had he played 20 yrs of non stop cricket.Never..He played just 52 internationals that too against 4 oppositions in comparison to the staggering 609 played by Sachin.U r comparing a man who excelled in just 1 format to the GENIUS who has set astounding heights in whatever format he has graced.I hope u dont forget he is the highest run getter & century maker in both ODI & Tests & his hammering of bowlers coming from 4 decades is no mean feat either.With due respect to Sir Don only a handful of records come to the mind when we talk about him while Tendulkar's plate is full.So the GOD OF CRICKET is incomparable.Regarding Ponting I would say it was God vs Don so "KIDS" better stay away.Now I hope Mr SeaforthA1 becomes more matured and utters something that makes sense!!

  • Aussasinator on July 3, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Yup you are right. Ponting is the most over rated batsman of this generation.

  • _Australian_ on July 3, 2010, 18:52 GMT

    Aussasinator the reason Ponting was left out was because we had a choice between Bradman and Ponting for no3 position. Bradman wins that spot hands down.

  • crktcrazzy on July 3, 2010, 18:00 GMT

    @ derik agreed but c for urslf he has played just two great knocks in a while@ Aussasinator1)bit of bounce he is exposed? i thought ponting was the best hooker and puller of cricket bal2) specify the names rem he hammered steyn in sa3)ponting was the caption when eng lost 5-0 two ashes eng have won only 2-1 which included a 2run margin and a last wicket draw n in eng ie away series how many away has tendulkar won or even drawn @ Dimbeswar u r an another stupid sachin fan low on stats high on emotion whose every answers starts with sachin is god this is an lame argument get ur stats and then comment @Nirav459 pon is still behind b'cos sachin has played more and he plays for record 2) healthy? sachin never dominated mcgrath even in his wildest dreams ishant got him once out 3 yrs ago n ur still counting this gr8 3)ian chp said sachin shl hav retired long time ago4)gud u mentioned cb series final and sharjah 97 u mentioned urself in the last 13 yrs he has just won one final

  • natmastak_so-called on July 3, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    New dimention... think about this, After practicing against warne in nets punter became bunny of bhajji. If he had to practice bhajji and face warnie in real contest,i think he wud have ended his career before this millenium.

  • manasvi_lingam on July 3, 2010, 16:30 GMT

    Ponting isn't a good captain but he has a poor team. If Steve Waugh's team was around, even Ponting would have done well as a captain. And I don't see why this is a Tendulkar vs Ponting vs Lara vs X debate. Can we stick to the point?

  • natmastak_so-called on July 3, 2010, 16:25 GMT

    Forget about other countries.punter has never been better than his own teammates in both tests & odis. Aus always had better bat than punter at any given time.At some point ,gillespie too proved better than punter.

  • Aussasinator on July 3, 2010, 16:23 GMT

    Like I said, Australians have to first finish the debate as to whether Ponting is as good as Hayden and Lange to begin with. Considering the fact that the Australians themselves had left out Ponting from an all-time Australian team, you dont need further proof to learn that the Oz themselves dont consider him to be good enough. This trivia closes from my side at least. Till the Ashes we need a break. And I am sure Ponting will be commenting on the positives from the dead rubber wins rather than their incompetent losses against a better outfit in England. There's no hope for Australian cricket till Hussey plays at No. 3 and a more inspirational captain takes over, who gels with the team's younger members rather than imposing his aura on them.

  • _Australian_ on July 3, 2010, 15:34 GMT

    Godfather007 once again you are showing your lack of knowledge of the game and it's players. Bradman is streets ahead of any batsman now or ever. I would like to see Tendulkar score 300 individual runs in one day in a test match like the Don did. It is true that Ponting is starting to struggle with the quicker bouncer but he is at the end of his career. It certainly has not happened his entire career. You have been clutching at straws with all your comments about Ponting, trying to say he has been this same player his entire career when this is clearly not the case. As an example of Ponting's so called easy runs just look at his last Ashes in Australia. His scores in order from 1st Test to 5th test were 196, 60*, 142, 49, 2, 75, 7, 45, DNB. Big scores at the start of the series no easy runs! Why don't you worry about your own players and their ability before you have a dig at a guy who is way better than any player England will or have ever produced. Jelousy is a nasty curse, dude!

  • natmastak_so-called on July 3, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    Why bring sehwag,dravid etc. Into picture.cricinfo showed in an article named ,pontings fall from stratospheric heights, that daniel vettori has been a better batsman than punter for last 3 years.and about captaincy,ian chapell kows better than us.

  • natmastak_so-called on July 3, 2010, 14:29 GMT

    Of course punter is better than tendulkar, WAIT.....he has to be better than ARJUN TENDULKAR...right now at least.....who knows about future. and @ sachin, i wont even spell p***** in a sentence containing name of GOD.

  • Nirav459 on July 3, 2010, 13:45 GMT

    @ Aussasinator............ When u talk about Tendulkar you need to realise ur Pointing is still behind him, Still tryingh to catch him up. And when u say tht Mcgrath had tendulkar and Pollock had lara u also chech the stats tht the rivarly was healthy where each was at a point of time was better than the other where as wen u see pointing v/s harbhajan and inshant sharma in test its one sided. Pointing won tournaments as he had good players in his team. He was never a gr8 leader as said by his own country men Ian Chappel. When u talk abt tendulkar didnt played in finals then u have to see the recent game in australia the CB series where he made a century and was the best take ur memoru to sarjah and u will agin realise tht he is the best. His top5 innnings in ODI 4 are against Australia. When u see pointing he is a guy full of over confidence and now when he is not having any support from his team cribs abt tht he is trying his best but he was never the Best.

  • on July 3, 2010, 13:38 GMT

    crktcrazzy ,,you have gone mad.don't even dare compare sachin with ponting...Even Shewag is far better than ponting,,dont talk abt strike rates in tests,then even bhajji would be better than bradman.Ponting has to take thousand dips to even come close to dravid.he looks odd to watch...

  • Aussasinator on July 3, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    @crktcrazy. Here the talk is only about ability as a batsman to face and do well against quality attacks. Ponting goes pale in comparison. I gave a lot of names of other bowlers. The moment the pace goes up into 145 kph and above, the obvious discomfort of Ponting shows. Add a bit of bounce to it and he's exposed. It's just that bowlers took a long time to figure him out. Nothing more than a fair weather belter. Yes, he plays mediocre bowling better than a lot of other Australian batsmen, especially after the initial newness of the ball rubs off. But England will need Ponting the batsman and captain to be there in the opposition if they are to win the forthcoming Ashes.

  • derik on July 3, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    @crktcrazzy: Wat do u have to say abt the innings against Australia in Australia ??? where sachin helped india win back 2 back finals ???

  • crktcrazzy on July 3, 2010, 11:34 GMT

    @Aussasinator u talk abt akhtar i don remember ponting having any trouble against him, as far as i can remember whenever akthar has toured aus pak has lost 3-0, it is true harbhajan has picked him up but so has mcgrath picked sachin pollock has picked lara u forgot the smashing harbhajan took in 2003 wc. as far as ishant is concern he bowled one good speell to ponting but ponting took him to cleaners in recent odi's. sachin has played cricket in flat pitches quick outfield, failed in all the finals, semi finals and is so selfish. u remember the sydney 200 which he scored with a strike rate of less than 50, imagine a double ton with a sr of less than 50 just because he was over cautious. for the last 10-15 years he has been playing with sewag, dravid, sourav, laxman, dhoni, yuvi he is not the captain and we still say he is under a lot of pressure

  • Aussasinator on July 3, 2010, 11:13 GMT

    I just saw him getting out to Stuart Broad just now. A quickish rising ball which Ponting tried to Pull but only gloved it to the keeper. He could never play the faster rising ball and bowlers have figured out that issue. Reflexes no longer good enough for being a good No. 3 bat. Somebody else is being deprived of a batting slot and Australians dont seem to have realised why they are losing. But its good for England and the rest of the world. There's a lot less work to be done during the Ashes for their bowlers.

  • Godfather007 on July 3, 2010, 8:55 GMT

    Sachin is even better than Sir Don Bradman.......... so what's this stupid debate going on

  • Godfather007 on July 3, 2010, 8:51 GMT

    Wait wait wait......... from where has this Tendulkar vs Ponting debate has got started.The point that punter was making......... u guys have all messed up.He is simply talking about his lack of confidence going into the 2010-2011 Ashes & has already given England the upper hand.He is the only captain facing the ignominy of losing 2 Ashes out of 3.He wants to make amends by winning the 2013 Ashes.LOL....LOL...LOL.....About his comparisons with Tendulkar he stands nowhere near the Indian Legend who is the greatest batsman of all time(greater than Sir Don).20 years of constant hardwork speaks volumes about the little genius.Dudes I don't think u watch cricket seriously.....please don't insult "THE GOD OF CRICKET","THE 99.5% PERFECT BATSMAN" etc.....etc....by comparing him with the selfish Ponting who continued to pile on easy runs when his other legendary batsman & bowlers used to do most of their jobs.So plzzzzzzzzzzzz choose the best & leave the rest....

  • safrca on July 3, 2010, 7:25 GMT

    @scottstevo You should be open minded, your comments only talk about the games you won, but you don't talk about the games you lost , specially against SA, and also Aust performances are very weak. Punter should know where they rank....At one stage he is not concerned about the ranking , at another all of a sudden he worries about rankings. Aus and you should learn to accept defeat and credit other teams. You should do your homework before commenting

  • on July 3, 2010, 7:09 GMT

    poor PUNTER so tensed to lose his captaincy..how generous and down to earth he pretendsto be,it's a ploy so that he can continue to be Australia captain till he retires..His form is poorfootwork pathetic...I believe Huss is the ultimate After all those greats like macgra,warne,gilly,haydo retired..Huss is the lone warrior.Its time to go Punter

  • Aussasinator on July 3, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    There are people comparing Ponting with Tendulkar and Lara and saying he's better. He's a better fielder no doubt and the comparison ends there. How can a batsman who had no clue against bowlers like Shoaib Akhthar, Ishant Sharma, Shane Bond, Fidel Edwards, Andrew Flintoff, Harbhajan, Graeme Swann and now Mohammed Aamer,(just to name some) be considered a great batsman, leave alone merit comparison with the greats. He's a fair weather cricketer who's amassed runs when bowling standards in the first 10-12 years of his career were quite low outside Australia. Added to that is the company of the other greats in the Australian line-up, who along with a super bowling attack, were the real match winners for the Oz. Ponting's performances have never been match changing. He may like to believe that he's as great as Lara or Tendulkar but deep down he himself knows he's only pumping himself up. Let Ponting admirers first exhaust the debate on whether he's better than Langer or Hayden.

  • crktcrazzy on July 3, 2010, 5:19 GMT

    all this talk abt ponting being a bad captain is crap, he has a record of 22 wins 0 loss in wc, he is the most attacking test captain with his timely decl, not like msd who plays for a draw. he is a far superior batsman then tendulkar.he has been scoring runs as a captain which is far difficult, who can forget his 100 in wc final. he does'nt plays for centuries unlike tendulkar who only plays for record, who can forget msd taking only a single in last over so that tendulkar can reach 200. ponting has scored runs in bowlers friendly wicket like in aus nz eng sa unlike tendulkar who has the advantage of playing in ind,sl.

  • smurtazah on July 3, 2010, 2:28 GMT

    @Phani, Ponting is right up there with Lara and Tendulkar if not better. They are geniuses and huge superstars, ponting is a genius and low-key and he has caught up with the two! If Gillies, Haydens, Waughs were there for him (which I dont consider great batsmen), Tendulkar has had the luxury of truly the better batsmen of our time in Dravid, VVS in his prime and Sehwag. Lara, I agree with you stood alone with absolutely no support from anyone else to the point where I feel sorry for his solitude on the pitch as a batsman. A great player to me is not what he does individually, but also the over all team result has to be impacted and you can take a long look at Ponting's record right next to Australia's record.

  • bjcm12 on July 3, 2010, 0:58 GMT

    Punter will be a winner in Australia. During the past Ponting lost good players - about 11 due to retirement. Gilly, Hayden, McGrath, Martyn, Hogg, Warne, McGill, Langer are few. So many cannot remember this. Also his ability with the bat has been extra ordinary and he is the best test player in the world as I rate him. His batting to save tests is much more effective than Tendulkar's. records speak for itself. Once Ponting retires Aussies will taste defeat since Micheal Clark is an average captain. He is not the caliber of Ponting, Border, Steve Waugh and Mark Taylor. Pup has a lot to learn.

    Well done Punter !

  • BillyCC on July 2, 2010, 23:37 GMT

    There are rankings and there are rankings. The current structure of the Test cricket rankings does see India at Number 1 and South Africa at Number 2. But that can easily change, which is why the BCCI are so desperate to host ridiculously short series so they have a chance to maintain their rankings. The fact is, there is now no clear champion. West Indies dominated for 20 years, Australia dominated for 15 years, and now the cricket world has five top contenders which will hold the number one ranking from time to time, but never truly being recognised, because they all seem to lose to each other. India deserve their ranking because they haven't lost any recent series, only drawn them.

  • on July 2, 2010, 20:25 GMT

    @ Umer Malik, Rating Ponting as the best against the likes of Tendulkar, Lara is not correct. He is the best batsman for Aus, after Sir Don Bradman, but comparing him with Geniuses like Sachin and Lara? They are the real fighters and team players, who almost single handedly murdered their opponents. Remember, there were no haydo's, Gilli's, Waugh's as cushion. Provided such a cushion, these people would have done more wonders than what they achieved now.

    @maximum6, two tests series are due to the busy schedules and if Aus wants match practise, they can extend their tour and BCCI would be ever ready to provide them with the much needed "PRACTISE".

    Also, playing n number of tests prior to worldcup is not an ideal thing, i wonder why CA planned the ashes is a big surprise for me ! And Eng is now turning into a good side, and they can give Aus a run for their money in ashes.

  • tushar26sharma on July 2, 2010, 19:26 GMT

    i think loosing the ashes to england will definetly going to end the career of ricky ponting ........... And that is going to happen too as Australias top players have retired and they comes for once only........... like u can see West Indies........ and most of all is he is behind TENDULKAR and will be behind only........ because SACHIN TENDULKAR rocksssssssss

  • on July 2, 2010, 18:52 GMT

    "I'd probably be looking for a new job if we lose again," Ponting told the Daily Mail. I don't think this is going to happen.. as Aussies are going to win this Season ASHES,,,at SCG.. :)

  • on July 2, 2010, 18:51 GMT

    "I'd probably be looking for a new job if we lose again," Ponting told the Daily Mail. I don't think this is going to happen.. as Aussies are going to win this Season ASHES,,,at SCG.. :)

  • on July 2, 2010, 17:21 GMT

    THIS IS U N B E L I E V A B L E!!!! Did Ponting jst talk bout losing??? i cnt believe it, dunno how many yrs it took 4 all dis 2 happen... people lyk Warne, McGrath, Gilly, SYmonds, Gillespie had 2 retire 4 dis 2 happen... looks lyk finallay we will c sum humility in the Aussies - though i still reckon Cameron WHITE shud b the CAPTAIN - he has always lead the myty VICTORIA 2 victory so easily...

  • on July 2, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Maximum6.... 'then India can sneak a victory in the first game,and then hold out for a draw in the second....thuis maintaining their flimsy pretence at being world No.1.' Even though I am not a supporter of India, I feel that argument is not correct....let's fact it, the reverse can also be said.... the opposing team eg Australia(or any other team)can sneak a victory in the first game, and then hold on for a draw in the next. That's the way it is. Ofcourse, having said that, I am not in favour of two games, and would much rather have the series decided one way or the other over a period of three tests at least. The two tests series definitely gives a distinct advantage to the team who wins the first test, whether it be India, Australia or any one else. I sincerely hope common sense prevails in the future and we have reasonable test series.

  • on July 2, 2010, 16:59 GMT

    Australia is still the far better team than any other cricket playing nation. Punter will be back with a bang.

  • on July 2, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    Okay guys, let's face the facts. Records or not, Australia has always been a tough team to beat (home or away) and I don't see it changing real quick. True, they are not the side that they were about 3-5 years back, but the fact is they are still pretty darn good.

    Having said that, I cdn't agree more to TrevorHickman and Landl47 on the points that:

    a) Ponting has never been a great captain per se; for that matter, he's not even in the elite group of shrewd, smart captains to me. You want a captain think of somebody like a Ranatunga, or a Steve Waugh or a MS Dhoni. These are the folks who led inconsistent and/or inexperienced and/or unorganized teams to come from behind and surprise the world.

    b) Unless CA flex their set of rules for Mr. Ponting, given his age and recent form (yes, it's obvious, significant and understandable), don't expect to see him around for long.

    p.s. - I hate Australian team and NO Ponting is NOT the best. It's Sachin and I rest the argument for obvious

  • on July 2, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    He may be a good player. But in the end of the day if you look back there are 'n' no of legends have played under him. Say for example shan warne. He is a wonderful bowler as well leader. if you compare with his leadership qualities with ponting. Warne is ahead of ponting. I strongly believe Australia has wasted warne's quality leadership. He would have become a best captain Australia ever produced. But unfortunately that didn't happen. At least IPL has found out that he is a good player as well leader. Australia may think about to use his Managerial skills going forward.

  • stanley24 on July 2, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    well i just dont get it.when aussies were thrown from their no.1 spot in both formats our very own punter came out and said we really dont care about rankings,but now when they are at top and mind u third in the other than he comes out and starts talking about rankings.truly a great loser he is.

  • on July 2, 2010, 15:13 GMT

    i believe england can beat australia in this years ashes.luk at wat england have bin doing to aus for the past year ,england to regain the ashes down under 3-2.

  • ScottStevo on July 2, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    @prakashdhana,

    I think you'll find that if the rankings were annually that Aus would still be top as we had a perfect home summer in ODI's. We hammered England 6-1 in England, we also hammered India 4-2 in India, which was the last time we met. Basically, you'v got no idea what you're talking about...

  • SOLUTE on July 2, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    he won't retire after after ashes this summer nor will he resign from his captaincy,it's the 2013 ashes that matters which is in england,he knows deep in his heart,his last triump as a cricketer,as a captain,will actually be regaining ashes in england,that's when his carrer endsand an era in the world cricket also ends.so he knows he has to beat eng this summer.everyone in the team knows the same.who build clarke's,hussy's,whites,bollinger,hauritz,watson etc.it'under ponting's leadership.these players will definetly give ponting his his last triumph as a farewell treat.its their debt they owe to ponting

  • 2.14istherunrate on July 2, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    You have to wonder at BCCI arranging another 2 Test series with one of the big sides. Too yellow to play a decent series I reckon. If they don't provide decent warm up matches then India can sneak a victory in the first game,and then hold out for a draw in the second....thuis maintaining their flimsy pretence at being world No.1. Other countries should just simply refuse these 2 Test series or the ICC outlaw them except for countries playing Bangladesh. Are you real men,BCCI, or just the showponies I suspect you of being?

  • DaveFish on July 2, 2010, 12:27 GMT

    Dear Mr Ponting....please check the ICC Test ranking before going into your next interview. Hope you dont get sacked!!!!

  • tdobbo on July 2, 2010, 12:03 GMT

    Lets hope wee wicky sticks around until 2013 so he can go for his world record triple crown...losing the Ashes 3 times in England!

  • golden_ducks on July 2, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    really! ponting is the best and i will change my name to pathetic loser if he loses the ashes to the overhyped englishmen (including the irish and southafricans in their team)

  • on July 2, 2010, 11:26 GMT

    England beating Aussies in their own back yard...forget it !! I don't see that coming with the present standards of both the sides...2005, England won and later were cleaned up 5-0.The firepower, the consistency, the flare and the mental strength that is required to outclass Australia is surely not visible in this England squad.They wud be living in a fool's paradise if they ever thought they could carry Ashes while on their way back.At best they should devise ways to manage a drawn test or two.And Ricky Ponting is a smart operator.By saying what he said, he is only trying to raise the bar for his team.I am sure he has a strategy behind it.Australian teams have been known to influence mindsets of oppositions.Wait till January to see Ponting lifting the Ashes.

  • A.Ak on July 2, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    After two losses, he finally brought down to earth and things he is human. Now he is weak after the retirements of their match winning biggies. The team members are not belongs to the team that was dominting the world cricket until few years back. He kows that in his mind that this is a new young team. Good luck.

  • SudarshanR on July 2, 2010, 10:39 GMT

    Punter....he's a great captain and also a great batsman....and his presence in oz squad ll always boost their chances on any day against any team and he's still the best man to lead Australia and should also be leading oz in ashes 2013...but above all his batting has been a main cause of worry...its been nearly 4 yrs since we got to see punter of yore....his batting's not at all been what it was a few yrs ago....hope he gets back to his old run scoring ways and takes Australia all the way to wc 2011 glory and also ashes glory at home and also in 2013....good luck punter...with ur old form, u r always the best

  • on July 2, 2010, 10:10 GMT

    my god!!!!!aussies have 0 loses in wc in ponting captainsi

  • on July 2, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    I would rate Ponting better than Tendulkar, Lara, Yousaf, Inzamam and others. He is the best bastman off the last 50 years...Remember under his captaincy Oz have won 2 world cups, one champions trophy,5-0 white wash Ashes and various other series,but His strngth is his batting. Greatest batsman of all times...

  • ayeshakhan on July 2, 2010, 9:37 GMT

    Ponting is not bad captain.The problem is with the bowler almost all the bowler are unexpereniced.

  • on July 2, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    How will win the Ashes this year? It is a million dollar question among cricket fans.

  • Sanjiyan on July 2, 2010, 9:29 GMT

    @AB99 The reason Ponting sent White in ahead of Hussey is simple; White is a tried and proven power hitter. Hussey can do it as well of course( T20 vs Pakistan) BUT Hussey's form has been on the decline over the past 1,5 years. Sending White in ahead of Hussey for quick runs is a safer bet. I would have done exactly the same if i were in Pontings shoes. Back on the subject, Ponting is an overrated captain imo and he should have stepped down a while ago. Let someone else captain while Ponting concentrates on his own game.

  • on July 2, 2010, 9:21 GMT

    Dont worry..He will back soon n will hold WC trophy for time..He is born champion.

  • Fan84 on July 2, 2010, 9:12 GMT

    iam not sure why everone is hurting ponting their scathy comments , ponting is the best captain , some may not like my words,,iam just opining ,, he's the captain who led to a 5-0 thrashing in the 2006 series,, winning a test match alone is very difficult and winning by that margin is so great ,, let's cheer him and wish the best ,, love you ricky and ur team ..

  • cricnivas on July 2, 2010, 8:34 GMT

    itz all said and done, do the Aussies have a better captain to replace the punter at this time? the best days of Australian cricket are behind them and the punter will be remembered as their last great captain for some years to come

  • chokkashokka on July 2, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    As much as everyone would love to see it, I don't see England beating Australia in Australia. This commonwealth team from England is good but not sure if they can win in the Kangaroo farm. But we can wish - ahh..the sight of seeing Ponting's face when Strauss is hoisting the Ashes would be priceless. The English talent scouts should get their passports ready and get the foreign office t-ed up to make Englishmen out of their promising talent that can be lured. I hear Mohammed Yousuf is available.

  • AB99 on July 2, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    WoW! we now have the first Austrailian captian in 25 years who is not confident of beating the English cricket team in an Ashes in Australia. If that is the case how would Ponting inspire his team ... maybe the fact that Bucknow has retired as an umpire has put his designs (remember Sydney vs India on 2007) under the microscope. Ponting is a great batsman- but a very ordinary captain who is not secure. Why should Pointing send White (ODI avg: 35, strike rate: 79) ahead of Hussey ((ODI avg: 52, strike rate: 89.5)) is a mystery and speaks of his poor captaincy. Ponting should go anyways ...

  • nyorke on July 2, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    South Africa are the second rated Test team in the world, Australia are third...

  • Ganes.V on July 2, 2010, 7:12 GMT

    Australia always had a couple of great bowlers and a few batsmen who did the job for them. In spite of this, Australia didnt do well in 2005 and 2009. Ponting didnt have anything much to do- it was all his team members who were also to be blamed. It was not the case when Steve Waugh was captain. He always held things together when things went wrong. No comparison though between the two- ponting was a good captain when the team did well and not a good one when the team failed! As the saying goes the captain is as good as his team! Good luck.

  • on July 2, 2010, 6:28 GMT

    Ricky Ponting is the best captain. He deserves to be mentioned along with Mark Taylor and Steve Waugh. He's lost match winners and still leads a winning side which the previous two haven't ha to deal with. Ponting deserves a lot of praise. And the 2009 Ashes, common, brett wasnt allowed to play and hauritz wasnt used at the oval. Thats the selectors fault. Unlike in India, the australian captain doesnt have much of a say in the team selection.

  • 68704 on July 2, 2010, 6:14 GMT

    I think Ponting is probably talking himself up , but he does know that it is not so much about the job but about the reputation and the fear of losing once again to the Poms ! While Ponting"s ability to handle pressure is not in question or his will, I think Australia should realise that there is lot more to this than the reputation of one individual however talented. The sensible thing is for Australia to handle this unemotionally as they have been able to do in the past. Give the captaincy to someone ellse so that Ponting can bat with the free abandon that he has been unable to do for some time now. He could also field in the slips , something that he has been unable to do in the current one day series, because he has to hold his junior bowler"s hands and guide him. Interesting times ahead , but Ponting may just quit if not given the captaincy. One only hopes that Ponting will come out of it with his reputation at least intact if not enhanced. Ramanujam Sridhar

  • on July 2, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    True Ponting. But I think you need to worry a little about your form as well. Last 92 was great... but you need to be more consistant. you are a great great player and team's success depends a lot on you. Good luck for Ashes.

  • prakashdhana on July 2, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    How can Ponting say that they are No.2 . He has lost touch with the rankings. Australia are no.3 and South Africa is no.2 They are only no. 1 in ODI, due to past records and on paper , If the rankings were worked like the Fifa Rankings (which is annually), Aust would be around no4 at the moment. In the past year or 2 India , South Africa, Sri Lanka, all have outclassed Aust on the pitch.

  • on July 2, 2010, 4:42 GMT

    Ponting doesn't get enough credit for the role he plays. To still have such determination and focus after around 10 years at the elite level in any field is astounding! Rebuilding this Australia team has not been a perfect road, but its an exciting time with some amazing progress made!

  • on July 2, 2010, 4:07 GMT

    It would be foolishness if at all he is dethroned as captain. I certainly dont see Micheal Clarke as captaincy material. He rides his luck and is most dependent on his middle order to take his team to get results. The person to lead if at all Ponting is asked to resign as captain is Cameroon White. White has time and again proved his captaincy skills around with Victoria and that in itself proves to all that he is worth gold. Clarke on the other hand is over rated, though he might have a beautiful fan following up here in Australia, still there seems to be some kind of class that is invisible in his case. Ponting has been a master of his trade and I m pretty sure it wont take him much grit and power to get back the Ashes. The so called "England" post the 2010 WC has got confidence within themselves, but beware the english have over time proved all "correct" with the over confidence they gain. All the best to both captains, specially Strauss and England!

  • mrs.abdevilliers on July 2, 2010, 2:38 GMT

    "We're still ranked the best side in one-day cricket and No. 2 in Test cricket,"

    Ummm actually no, Ricky, you are not. Australia is No. 1 in one-dayers and No.3 in Test Cricket.

    Sorry buddy, good try though.

  • on July 2, 2010, 2:16 GMT

    Whatever happens , but still ponting has done a lot for his team australia and is a great captain . He is one the historical player and cricinfo's legend of cricket when he retires . Ponting retires australia's 30% momentum will be lost . He's the best for any format of the game but t20 is not in australia's luck . I wish australia win all the matches and keep their momentum going 100%. Go ponting ! Go australia !

  • BillyCC on July 2, 2010, 2:10 GMT

    Ponting's comments are fair enough. Australia have had by far the superior record in Test cricket against all opponents in the last two or three years. In that time, England have lost to India both home (2007) and away (2008/2009), lost to Sri Lanka away (2007/2008), lost to South Africa at home (2008), lost to the West Indies away (2008/2009) and drew to South Africa away (2009/2010). A poor record by any measure. An Ashes victory does not mean anything if you can't beat other top contenders.

  • landl47 on July 2, 2010, 1:35 GMT

    Ponting will be 36 during the course of the Ashes series. His batting has already become less consistent than it once was. His captaincy was never his strong point- he's good when Australia's on top, but doesn't seem to be sure what to do when things are going badly. Whether he wins or loses, this Winter's Ashes will likely be his last series. The Australian selectors generally don't wait until their captain is completely past it before changing him. Ask Steve Waugh.

  • TrevorHickman on July 2, 2010, 0:55 GMT

    I'm not really sure why he's still in charge anyway having lost 2 out of the last 3 ashes series. He's quite a good batsman, so probably deserves his place in the side for that, but he's never been a very astute captain.

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  • TrevorHickman on July 2, 2010, 0:55 GMT

    I'm not really sure why he's still in charge anyway having lost 2 out of the last 3 ashes series. He's quite a good batsman, so probably deserves his place in the side for that, but he's never been a very astute captain.

  • landl47 on July 2, 2010, 1:35 GMT

    Ponting will be 36 during the course of the Ashes series. His batting has already become less consistent than it once was. His captaincy was never his strong point- he's good when Australia's on top, but doesn't seem to be sure what to do when things are going badly. Whether he wins or loses, this Winter's Ashes will likely be his last series. The Australian selectors generally don't wait until their captain is completely past it before changing him. Ask Steve Waugh.

  • BillyCC on July 2, 2010, 2:10 GMT

    Ponting's comments are fair enough. Australia have had by far the superior record in Test cricket against all opponents in the last two or three years. In that time, England have lost to India both home (2007) and away (2008/2009), lost to Sri Lanka away (2007/2008), lost to South Africa at home (2008), lost to the West Indies away (2008/2009) and drew to South Africa away (2009/2010). A poor record by any measure. An Ashes victory does not mean anything if you can't beat other top contenders.

  • on July 2, 2010, 2:16 GMT

    Whatever happens , but still ponting has done a lot for his team australia and is a great captain . He is one the historical player and cricinfo's legend of cricket when he retires . Ponting retires australia's 30% momentum will be lost . He's the best for any format of the game but t20 is not in australia's luck . I wish australia win all the matches and keep their momentum going 100%. Go ponting ! Go australia !

  • mrs.abdevilliers on July 2, 2010, 2:38 GMT

    "We're still ranked the best side in one-day cricket and No. 2 in Test cricket,"

    Ummm actually no, Ricky, you are not. Australia is No. 1 in one-dayers and No.3 in Test Cricket.

    Sorry buddy, good try though.

  • on July 2, 2010, 4:07 GMT

    It would be foolishness if at all he is dethroned as captain. I certainly dont see Micheal Clarke as captaincy material. He rides his luck and is most dependent on his middle order to take his team to get results. The person to lead if at all Ponting is asked to resign as captain is Cameroon White. White has time and again proved his captaincy skills around with Victoria and that in itself proves to all that he is worth gold. Clarke on the other hand is over rated, though he might have a beautiful fan following up here in Australia, still there seems to be some kind of class that is invisible in his case. Ponting has been a master of his trade and I m pretty sure it wont take him much grit and power to get back the Ashes. The so called "England" post the 2010 WC has got confidence within themselves, but beware the english have over time proved all "correct" with the over confidence they gain. All the best to both captains, specially Strauss and England!

  • on July 2, 2010, 4:42 GMT

    Ponting doesn't get enough credit for the role he plays. To still have such determination and focus after around 10 years at the elite level in any field is astounding! Rebuilding this Australia team has not been a perfect road, but its an exciting time with some amazing progress made!

  • prakashdhana on July 2, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    How can Ponting say that they are No.2 . He has lost touch with the rankings. Australia are no.3 and South Africa is no.2 They are only no. 1 in ODI, due to past records and on paper , If the rankings were worked like the Fifa Rankings (which is annually), Aust would be around no4 at the moment. In the past year or 2 India , South Africa, Sri Lanka, all have outclassed Aust on the pitch.

  • on July 2, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    True Ponting. But I think you need to worry a little about your form as well. Last 92 was great... but you need to be more consistant. you are a great great player and team's success depends a lot on you. Good luck for Ashes.

  • 68704 on July 2, 2010, 6:14 GMT

    I think Ponting is probably talking himself up , but he does know that it is not so much about the job but about the reputation and the fear of losing once again to the Poms ! While Ponting"s ability to handle pressure is not in question or his will, I think Australia should realise that there is lot more to this than the reputation of one individual however talented. The sensible thing is for Australia to handle this unemotionally as they have been able to do in the past. Give the captaincy to someone ellse so that Ponting can bat with the free abandon that he has been unable to do for some time now. He could also field in the slips , something that he has been unable to do in the current one day series, because he has to hold his junior bowler"s hands and guide him. Interesting times ahead , but Ponting may just quit if not given the captaincy. One only hopes that Ponting will come out of it with his reputation at least intact if not enhanced. Ramanujam Sridhar