England v Bangladesh, 2nd npower Test, Old Trafford, 1st day June 4, 2010

Shafiul provides more evidence of Bangladesh progress

Bangladesh are providing England with a tougher examination than anyone expected at the start of the season
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If Bangladesh cricket is measured on the basic principle of victories and defeats, it makes for depressing results. Instead their progress has to be judged by smaller success; individual hundreds, career-bests, five-wicket hauls and pushing the opposition hard. On all those parameters, this series is offering real hope for the future.

Bangladesh are providing England with a tougher examination than anyone expected at the start of the season and after making the hosts toil in the field at Lord's, the bowlers produced a much-improved display to ensure the opening day at Old Trafford was a tight contest. In all probability this Test will still finish as another hefty defeat, but that doesn't have to mean all is lost.

At Lord's it was the efforts of Tamim Iqbal, Imrul Kayes, Junaid Siddique and, to a lesser extent, Shahadat Hossain which meant the 'positives' that sportsmen so often talk about were tangible. However, the visitors' performance with the ball on the opening day at Lord's drove their coach, Jamie Siddons, to distraction - "I was ready to get on a plane," he said before this match - and he may have had a familiar sense of foreboding as Andrew Strauss and Alastair Cook eased to 44 without loss in 11 overs.

This time, though, there was a significant difference. Even though Shahadat was spraying the ball during a disappointing first spell, at the other end Shafiul Islam was making the batsmen work for their rewards. At no point at Lord's was there ever really any control from the attack, as Rubel Hossain and Robiul Islam looked barely first-class, but Shafiul's inclusion changed that.

He isn't a superstar - a Test bowling average of 68 is stratospheric for the wrong reasons - but he has at least mastered a few basics in line and length. The lack of pace bowlers coming out of Bangladesh will continue to hold back their development, yet while finding someone to bowl 90mph isn't proving possible, they should at least be able to produce bowlers that are less than cannon fodder. Shafiul showed it can be done.

He looked a decent prospect when England toured Bangladesh earlier this year, although suffered in the face of an onslaught from Eoin Morgan as his hundred snatched England's victory in the second ODI in Dhaka. Better bowlers have felt Morgan's force. What brought success here was a nagging line around off stump which tempted Strauss into a loose prod before he conjured a fine off-cutter to send Jonathan Trott on his way. His first spell ended with the impressive figures of 9-2-18-2.

"I just bowled a few outswingers, then tried one the other way," he said modestly about Trott's dismissal. "I wasn't disappointed to miss out at Lord's, the selectors picked what they thought was the best team."

Sadly his participation in the remainder of the day was limited to a further five overs after he was struck by cramp. However, his absence didn't mean that England's progress was serene. Far from it, really, on a pitch that offered Bangladesh's three spinners considerable encouragement.

"The wicket has taken us a little bit by surprise - the amount of turn on day one - and conditions were a little more helpful for them than we thought they might be," Ian Bell said. "It was a tricky day, they made us work very hard."

Shakib Al Hasan bowled far better than his figures suggest and regularly beat the outside edge of the right-handers with deliveries that grip, spun and, crucially, bounced. Turn is only one element for a spinner; without the bounce they become far less of a threat, as was discovered in Dhaka and Chittagong back in March. If Mushfiqur Rahim had got glove instead of knee on an edge from Bell when he'd made 36 England's innings could have looked very different, while Matt Prior survived a close lbw shot against Abdur Razzak.

"I though Shakib bowled fantastically well," Bell said. "Not every ball spun which made it harder, with the odd one skidding on it was hard work. With ring fields it's hard to keep the run-rate up. It made us graft a bit harder when there wasn't pace on the ball."

"Credit to Bangladesh again, they made us work hard as they did at Lord's," he added. "In the four Tests we've had recently they haven't been the pushover people expected, especially in England, and we've had to work hard for the positions we are in."

For Bangladesh, that can be classed as progress.

Andrew McGlashan is assistant editor of Cricinfo

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  • on June 5, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    Now that was surprising isnt it ? People kept saying about how further Bangladesh cricket has come,I dont deny that. They have found some players who are really good. But what about finding replacements for someone like Mohammed Ashraful. A man with loads of talent, but going nowhere. To reach any kind of a Test Playing status in the forthcoming years Bangladesh has to come up with bench strength and currentlly they lack big time. About some bowler bowling at 90.4m, yeah well look at his other stats...a strike rate of 136. Guess that answers that.

    People keep complaining about India loosing in Zimbabwe, well its a second string team. 7 regular starters are missing. And inspite of that it feels bad that we lost and the score board will say India lost twice to Zimbabwe...but everyone back home knows theirs more truth to it then numbers reflect. SoI am not denying Bangladesh has talent, but to compete on a world stage they lack a lot. Its the same names repeating with the big scores.

  • indianinyvr on June 5, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    I am happy to see BD playing well. As for the Indian posters picking on BD how long did it take India to win their first test match on foreign soil? I am an Indian myself but am embarrassed at the churlishness of some of these posters. I think cricket needs to be saved from the clutches of the corrupt Indian cricket administrators and the only way this can happen, unfortunately is for India to keep losing these T20 games so that the public gets tired of their non performing prima donnas and stop showing up at the farcical abomination that is IPL.

  • on June 5, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    They(players/BCCI/supporters) are busy for making money through IPL. Its their one and only passion! And another passion is to criticise Bangladesh using nasty words all the time in cricinfo.!!!and in evry cricketing blog/website. May we know why? Just learn something from Tamim, Sakib..! We are ready to wash you away once again from ODI worldcup! nd next time it will be on BAY of Bengal! so, get ready for the battle in Dhaka!

  • cairo on June 5, 2010, 12:31 GMT

    Bangladesh playing this test by thare quality. No one supported us for cricket. Some people use to say India helped us to get test staatus, its totally wrong. I will say India distroying our cricket image. Because of IPL, ICL. In IPL a lot of white skin players are playing, but they never look at Supper powr tamim Ikbal, not even world best allrounder Shakibul Hassan. I will say Pakistan helped us a little bit, because in every year a lot of player from pakistan comes to play in our domestic ligue, it helps to improve our cricktors mind. what do you think guyes??

  • mehdihossain on June 5, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    Not only Ashoka.Look at Billy. If it was not for him then Prior would have been out yesterday.......and may be England would have been 275 for 7 or 8.

  • Bang_La on June 5, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    India emerged only as a countable cricket power after Sourav started showing his aggression and was kicked out being Bengali as the reward. I have been an Indian supporter all along and I remember how many times the cowardice of Indian team embarrassed me. The Indian players these days show very flamboyant and super-confident outside, but again they embarrass me to succumb to any tough opposition. I must mention, it was New Zealand who lead the encouraging role of extending help to Bangladesh in playing international cricket and not only that, on every occasion Vettori and other NZlanders acknowledge how much they suffered to come up with wins in the past. Only Gavasker from India has few encouraging words (with late admission by Harsha Bhogle). All others pretend that India had been a super power since its emergence as a cricketing nation in 1932. I must mention, Ravi Shastri sometimes sounds as if he is not aware that Bangladesh are playing cricket :)

  • on June 5, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    On the first day, Shafiul was timed at a max speed of 90.4 mph. Its astounding why a team ranked number1 in world doesn't even have one genuine 'fast bowler'.

  • googletalk on June 5, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    One mentioned that without Indian support Bangladesh wouldn't get test status, where did you get this information? It was actually Australia who has been supporting our cricket since we have got test status and big thanks to them. Current English media also seems so favourable for us as well which we never received from Indian cricket board. As much as we/ our cricketers respect international senior cricketers, its actually few Indian players who were so harsh to our cricket/players. We fortunately have been receiving much respect from opposition like Australia or England not in terms of a star value, but as a fellow international cricketer. It shows they are truly big and champion.

  • googletalk on June 5, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    Lord's test should open your eyes that we have more than 2/3 capable players, they are just not clicking together in a same match where we are losing. About umpiring, we have paid heavily because few of their mistakes in crucial moments in last 10 years. Current Indian team no way are among the top two, they are media hyped and their financial muscle perhaps helping to earn praise from media to some extent. Apart from their few cricketing legend, their new bunch don't seem so impressive. Yes they can dictate in flatter pitch, but they will be falling down every time against Australia, South Africa in proper pitch. Especially ongoing surrender against Zimbabwe doesn't show any bright prospect for you, does it?

  • googletalk on June 5, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Thanks Andrew for your positive writing about Bangladesh cricket, I was thanking Andrew Miller few days back and its cool to see you are showing up! We need to put few things in perspective; this is pointless comparing Bangladesh cricket with Indian cricket as there should not be any comparison. But what we can argue is whether both the team are enjoying balanced praise from media or experts or even from respective fans. As much as I disagree with the notion that Bangladesh can't qualify to play test cricket, I completely disagree with the suggestion that India is the best cricket team. Bangladesh is ever improving and they really can push any test teams between sessions but falling apart every time because they are lacking to sustain the pressure for prolonged period of time. Individually we have got players who can play international standard innings or same level of bowling spell, and let me tell you it's not only Tamim or Sakib....contd.

  • on June 5, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    Now that was surprising isnt it ? People kept saying about how further Bangladesh cricket has come,I dont deny that. They have found some players who are really good. But what about finding replacements for someone like Mohammed Ashraful. A man with loads of talent, but going nowhere. To reach any kind of a Test Playing status in the forthcoming years Bangladesh has to come up with bench strength and currentlly they lack big time. About some bowler bowling at 90.4m, yeah well look at his other stats...a strike rate of 136. Guess that answers that.

    People keep complaining about India loosing in Zimbabwe, well its a second string team. 7 regular starters are missing. And inspite of that it feels bad that we lost and the score board will say India lost twice to Zimbabwe...but everyone back home knows theirs more truth to it then numbers reflect. SoI am not denying Bangladesh has talent, but to compete on a world stage they lack a lot. Its the same names repeating with the big scores.

  • indianinyvr on June 5, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    I am happy to see BD playing well. As for the Indian posters picking on BD how long did it take India to win their first test match on foreign soil? I am an Indian myself but am embarrassed at the churlishness of some of these posters. I think cricket needs to be saved from the clutches of the corrupt Indian cricket administrators and the only way this can happen, unfortunately is for India to keep losing these T20 games so that the public gets tired of their non performing prima donnas and stop showing up at the farcical abomination that is IPL.

  • on June 5, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    They(players/BCCI/supporters) are busy for making money through IPL. Its their one and only passion! And another passion is to criticise Bangladesh using nasty words all the time in cricinfo.!!!and in evry cricketing blog/website. May we know why? Just learn something from Tamim, Sakib..! We are ready to wash you away once again from ODI worldcup! nd next time it will be on BAY of Bengal! so, get ready for the battle in Dhaka!

  • cairo on June 5, 2010, 12:31 GMT

    Bangladesh playing this test by thare quality. No one supported us for cricket. Some people use to say India helped us to get test staatus, its totally wrong. I will say India distroying our cricket image. Because of IPL, ICL. In IPL a lot of white skin players are playing, but they never look at Supper powr tamim Ikbal, not even world best allrounder Shakibul Hassan. I will say Pakistan helped us a little bit, because in every year a lot of player from pakistan comes to play in our domestic ligue, it helps to improve our cricktors mind. what do you think guyes??

  • mehdihossain on June 5, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    Not only Ashoka.Look at Billy. If it was not for him then Prior would have been out yesterday.......and may be England would have been 275 for 7 or 8.

  • Bang_La on June 5, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    India emerged only as a countable cricket power after Sourav started showing his aggression and was kicked out being Bengali as the reward. I have been an Indian supporter all along and I remember how many times the cowardice of Indian team embarrassed me. The Indian players these days show very flamboyant and super-confident outside, but again they embarrass me to succumb to any tough opposition. I must mention, it was New Zealand who lead the encouraging role of extending help to Bangladesh in playing international cricket and not only that, on every occasion Vettori and other NZlanders acknowledge how much they suffered to come up with wins in the past. Only Gavasker from India has few encouraging words (with late admission by Harsha Bhogle). All others pretend that India had been a super power since its emergence as a cricketing nation in 1932. I must mention, Ravi Shastri sometimes sounds as if he is not aware that Bangladesh are playing cricket :)

  • on June 5, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    On the first day, Shafiul was timed at a max speed of 90.4 mph. Its astounding why a team ranked number1 in world doesn't even have one genuine 'fast bowler'.

  • googletalk on June 5, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    One mentioned that without Indian support Bangladesh wouldn't get test status, where did you get this information? It was actually Australia who has been supporting our cricket since we have got test status and big thanks to them. Current English media also seems so favourable for us as well which we never received from Indian cricket board. As much as we/ our cricketers respect international senior cricketers, its actually few Indian players who were so harsh to our cricket/players. We fortunately have been receiving much respect from opposition like Australia or England not in terms of a star value, but as a fellow international cricketer. It shows they are truly big and champion.

  • googletalk on June 5, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    Lord's test should open your eyes that we have more than 2/3 capable players, they are just not clicking together in a same match where we are losing. About umpiring, we have paid heavily because few of their mistakes in crucial moments in last 10 years. Current Indian team no way are among the top two, they are media hyped and their financial muscle perhaps helping to earn praise from media to some extent. Apart from their few cricketing legend, their new bunch don't seem so impressive. Yes they can dictate in flatter pitch, but they will be falling down every time against Australia, South Africa in proper pitch. Especially ongoing surrender against Zimbabwe doesn't show any bright prospect for you, does it?

  • googletalk on June 5, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Thanks Andrew for your positive writing about Bangladesh cricket, I was thanking Andrew Miller few days back and its cool to see you are showing up! We need to put few things in perspective; this is pointless comparing Bangladesh cricket with Indian cricket as there should not be any comparison. But what we can argue is whether both the team are enjoying balanced praise from media or experts or even from respective fans. As much as I disagree with the notion that Bangladesh can't qualify to play test cricket, I completely disagree with the suggestion that India is the best cricket team. Bangladesh is ever improving and they really can push any test teams between sessions but falling apart every time because they are lacking to sustain the pressure for prolonged period of time. Individually we have got players who can play international standard innings or same level of bowling spell, and let me tell you it's not only Tamim or Sakib....contd.

  • ashifr5 on June 5, 2010, 10:16 GMT

    Oh God! All those so called cricket purists/experts Tell us , if you find any test matches , apart from Ashes,AUSvsIND,PAKvsIND, as intriguing as BD playing any other teams!? The answer , even though you won't admit , is a loud, bold NO . I have been reading the comments posted here patiently for the last 30 mins and even though I am a half British half Bangladeshi , I am disgusted at the so called gentlemen , the British KP tried to dominate, yes , I will accept that and he failed in that attempt. His weakness against left arm spinners is something like sub continent batsmen's inability to cope with bouncers, which everyone knows, but in KP's case , seems to suffer memory loss somehow. Anyways , I'm looking forward to the second day and hope someone will be proven wrong among us . . . . not me , I know for sure

  • sanin on June 5, 2010, 10:12 GMT

    @ every critics,,,,,,when BD plays below their potential all you guys question about our test status, & when we play good, give the stronger opposition a hard time all you guys r saying ENG playing "rubbish"......believe me... if ENG had played rubbish on the first day they would have been ALL OUT by the end of the day, we are not that BAD as a team.

    And Indian guys ..God.... i thought being a neighbor you would support us ....never mind maybe you guys r still crying when Bd knocked out out from WorldCUp........

    We support our TEAM Through Bad times and obviously through Good times......Your unprofessional comments wouldn't change our believes.

  • Nawsad on June 5, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    @keyur mendrekar: We send a second string team to Zimbabwe and people get happy when India gets beaten. who asked to send 2nd string team or u the guys wanted to be beaten so that u cud say this is 2nd string team.stop talking rubbish cz result will show ind lost 2ice to zim not 2nd string ind lost to zim.

  • tareks_bangladesh on June 5, 2010, 8:34 GMT

    At All the guyz....Three debates to answer....First India doesn't have any right to criticize...being the neighbor and big brother India could have support Bangladesh to rise as a strong cricketing nation...in Last 10 years Bangladesh haven't tour India once..the excuse from the BCCI was a Bangladesh tour wouldn't be financially viable..I can see How much Big Boys r worried about the Development of Cricket in Bangladesh...Secondly some r saying about two section for test cricket...let me tell u...Cricket will be vanished from earth if u want to do so...cause u need money for infrastructure and development and a major part come in a way of TV rights and sponsors....the lower ranking teams will be affected by that.....just to tell u one thing...its only Srilanka and Australia so far has helped Bangladesh...Tamim...Mushfiq...Saqib u r watching playing they all got a part of their training in Melbourne, Australia....Srilanka Played us most.If u really care try to help us or shut ur mouth

  • overrated_india on June 5, 2010, 8:24 GMT

    i don know y eng fans r banging their heads for..Eng will win this series 2-0 and anybody who knows anything about cricket knows this,the spotlight wasn't on eng,it was on bd to see how far they can push eng..and they have done exceptionally well..And coming 2 ind..i still think india is the most overrated team of all but that doesn't mean they will be as bad as bd..if we just look at the zim 3 nations what significants can we see in the ind team?..they r no short of tallent,only think missing in this team is the guidance of their senior players,no matter how talented u r u need 2 have seniors in ur team..so ind is losing..now look at bd..they have the same prob since their birth in tests,no one have been consistent enough to hold his place in the team and thats why one after one young boy is thorn in the int area..and they cant cope on..now at last some guys r doing well and in future if this guys can hold onto their place and with new raw talent..bd will do well enough

  • shuvro_du on June 5, 2010, 6:33 GMT

    ..I think the comparison here between bd and ind are not so realistic for the fact that ind is quite a experienced test nation compared to bd. Currently the main problem for bd is I think bad umpiring which always lets them down. Specially in the test matches where a bad decision in a crucial situation can end up change the whole equation. I don't understad why refferel system is not being used in the england vs. bd series. Asoka de silva is continuesly giving poor decision and alost all of them are against bd. If this keeps on happening the underdogs can never come up with good results in tests..

  • Zobaid_Khan on June 5, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    Dear indian fans; stop bullying BD; pray, if u r not yet praying, for beating SRL handsomely, or you r out of triseries in Zim! Who could have dreamt of this? Remember, the last time Bangla tigers were in Zim; the scoreline was 4-1 in favour of Shakib's team. I just am recalling how in nineties India with great players like SRT, Kapil dev and Azharuddin in the team were thrashed by Englishmen. Although Kapil hit consecutive sixes after Gooch's 333 to avoid follow on and with all heroics of Azharuddin to score the fastest century at Lords, india was well beaten. I felt sorry; I was supporting India. Why you Indians can not support BD; or you are anticipating another shameful loss in upcoming Asia cup. That is very much on the cards with your current team. Good luck BD

  • lalaraju on June 5, 2010, 6:05 GMT

    @Amir. To think that Indians do not support Bangladesh is misplaced. We love it when Bangla Desh give tough times to its opponents. You need to understand that when Bangladesh is playing against India, We would not support them. There is also mental games that need to be played as Sehwag had done when he captained India. It does not mean that Indians do not support Bangla Desh. To recall, without Indian support Bangladesh would not have got Test Status.

  • Bang_La on June 5, 2010, 5:58 GMT

    India sent INDIAN team to Tri-series and that team was convincingly defeated by Zimbabwe. The members if this Indian team are big stars already and are future of India. Funny is, Indian supporters read India's name in same breath along with Australia, South Africa, Sri Lanka................. what a joke! Begging the Kolkata curator on knees saved India's pace as #1 in ODI ranking.

  • join on June 5, 2010, 5:15 GMT

    @keyur Mandrekar: Bangladesh played fantastically well, and if, in the recently concluded eng vs bd series, the umpires had been any better or impartial(put it whichever way u want), they would have lost the ODI series 2-1 and the Test series(1-0 or 1-1). regarding India reaching no.1 in ODI'S , are we talking bout ICC's ranking system for ODI'S? if we are , then India are number 2, and if they fail to make it to the finals of the current tri series, they will be num 3[they r num1 in tests,tho]. and yes, india have sent a 2nd string , maybe 3rd string to play zim/sl, so their results really don't matter, except for the fact that these players are the so called future once sachin and co retire.Is this what the indian team is going to look like in the tests in the future??Let us talk in 5 yr's time and we will see where BD is and where IND is in tests/ODI's.peace {I am an Indian, btw}

  • Bang_La on June 5, 2010, 5:06 GMT

    I have an answer for Mandrekar, stirring pot with his ego. He is trying to belittle Bangladesh, not due to disappointing performance in test arena but trying to hide Indian sorry records, smart guy! It was Sunil Gavasker who told the story during WI tour in 80s against formidable WI Quartet. A player got sick and a replacement batsman was selected. First thing he asked, "Why me?" Have things changed till today for India? NOT a bit. I have recorded proof of Shewag's body and facial language against "ordinary" Shahdat's bouncers. When he was out, he looked out of misery. In recent cricket, Indians showed how knee-jerking bunch of people they are outside India. Any chest high pace ball, and the great batsmen (with exception of Dravid and Laxman), all trembled VISIBLY. To climb to #1 in ODI, how many games were won in Indian substandard pitch and how many abroad? Indians need to glorify their players so they can be models to billion dollars consumers market, nothing else!

  • on June 5, 2010, 4:48 GMT

    Well, I am an Indian, and even I am intrigued by how the likes of Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah, Sakib, Mushfiq and Junaid have presented themselves in recent times. @Keyur, dude, your theory could be possibility, but very unlikely. They have shown improvement, and there are several games to prove it. Remember, when Sehwag called them ordinary? Just admit that they have gained some sort of consistency, and it wouldn't be exaggeration to say they are no pushover people. Yes, I think India should help the growth of cricket in nations like Afghanistan and Bangladesh. I am glad to see such nations improving in the sport, and I agree, in a few years time BD has the potential to be competitive, when likes of Tamin, Kayes, Junaid, Mushfiq gain more maturity. Coming to India losing to Zim, c'mon people, it's the second strength team, and the only reason why they are there is so we can pick the good young players for near future. Just come up with more educated comments, if you want to bash Team Ind

  • Robin_BD on June 5, 2010, 4:19 GMT

    Good one Andrew.We really don't care about Indian people ,the team that lost two matches against Poor Zimbabwe.I think ICC should think about their ODI status.I think Upcoming Asia Cup is the biggest challenge for India.They should give concentration on it.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on June 5, 2010, 4:12 GMT

    Much improved bowling effort by Bang. To me though, the best performance today was by the PITCH. Looks decent so far, a little something to encourage every1. Still it is always best to wait until the other side bats to make a complete judgement of the pitch but I really am optimistic that it will continue to support both pace, spin and good batting as the game progresses. From what I see, the bounce has played an important factor. turn + bounce is a much better combination for good spin bowling let alone pace bowling.

  • on June 5, 2010, 3:52 GMT

    I am an Indian and I think its rubbish to say anything against them. They are a developing side and earning respect from every quarter. All I think is they need some quality practice in county cricket or against good teams so that they can develop their game. Overall , I like tamim, mushy for their gutsy efforts whenever I see them batting . Hopefully, they will be competent in the near future. Atleast they are lot better than the second string Indian team ,which is sent to Zim.

  • on June 5, 2010, 2:24 GMT

    I can't understand why Indians are always criticizing and putting bad comments against Bangladesh? As our biggest neighbor, they should support and appreciate us as younger side. Why don't you bother about your performance in T20 Worldcup and recent ODI matches against ZIM? Why dont you bother about your players who got drunk after loosing all matches in WI T20 WC (super8) and fought with the supporters? Please dont put ugly n bad comments against BD when we play bad or good. If possible, give some honest suggestion for the betterment otherwise just leave these articles..... please! we don't need you! l

  • on June 5, 2010, 1:35 GMT

    @shonkhochil Make sure you read the names of the other teams as well. South Africa and India...do you think Bangladesh has in them to just bat once against these teams. Or for that matter even Sri Lanka and Pakistan. Call India names as many times as you want but India reached the status of being No.1 in ODI's. We send a second string team to Zimbabwe and people get happy when India gets beaten. What does that say ? India in 90's, yeah we werent winning test matches abroad, but see our record home. The only team that beat us was South Africa lead by Hansie Cronje. Arguably the greatest captain ever Steve Waugh, lost the final frontier as he called it. And I hope Bangaldesh turns up to be a great test playing nation....and someday they will...but for now, they are minnows. So come and argue with me whenever you think they have it in them to play with the big boys.

  • barrykenneff on June 5, 2010, 1:20 GMT

    I'm a test purist but despite bangladesh's record the cricket world is better place with them in it, they bring something other teams don't, i suppport england but enjoy bangladesh doing well even against us, they've got the talent they just need the ethos to know what it means to win a test match or even draw coz they've definately got the talent

  • doosra95 on June 5, 2010, 1:20 GMT

    Indians Thinking too much about how the are performing in test criket lately( 2000 - till now) take away all the flat pitches around the world and then pit their so call legends against quality PACE bowling and they are exposed as test team just found wanting at all levels against good FAST short pitch bowling. just recently in T20. The Never had Qulity FAST Bowling only trundlers like Kapil dev and co....

  • JHINUK on June 5, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    BD bowlers has bowled impressively well in this day 1. However, saying what would happen if BD were playing against AUS does not prove any point. What would you say regarding indian current ODI team if they were playing against AUS who is getting comprehensively beaten by ZIm. BD has a your bunch of players who has been playing well in the last couple of years.

  • on June 4, 2010, 23:40 GMT

    Mr. Mandrekar think about your own country. As they are struggling with their giant competitor Zimbabwe. alas India.Put your noise on that tri-series.

  • shonkhochil on June 4, 2010, 23:33 GMT

    I thought I got angry alone..seems like not! Bangladesh kicked out India from the first round of world cup last year.. They beat SA runner up of the last world cup in the same tournament.. After 'Ordinary Shewag' calling Bangladesh ordinary their extraordinary team were bowled out for 243 runs and Mr. Shewag didn't even dare to come into the press conference! Last ENG vs BAN series Rod Tucker & Tony Hill two umpires given so many decision wrong decision against BAN it seems like BAN were playing against 13 player ..whole ENG team & two Umpires!! We are proud of our team & we know they are doing better & better.. there will be some bad days..but we can see good days are not far & in those days people like ScriptWriter or Keyur Mandrekar will not find any place to hide!

  • on June 4, 2010, 23:09 GMT

    if a weak team perform little good vs a strong team,they need play far far well than strongs.

  • on June 4, 2010, 22:30 GMT

    This is a good fighting from Bangladesh. They are doing there best. People from Bangladesh is always support them. I don't want to argue with anyone who is comments that icc should take Bangladesh test status or Bangladesh sucks. That is totally rubbish. England is playing cricket from 16th century, and they play there 1st test in 1877 march 15 against Australia. Bangladesh got there test status only recently (10 November 2000). When ever Bangladesh plays against England, Australia or New Zealand that time they have to play not only those team but also umpire. Other ways Bangladesh should win 2/0 against England in home series. Now a day's people watch cricket live (TV) and they watch closely too, everyone saw what's happened there. So please don't say rubbish thing, just enjoy the game.

  • shonkhochil on June 4, 2010, 22:16 GMT

    @Keyur Mandrekar-- You should be ashamed of your comment. Your comment actually shows your understanding of cricket..Let me give you an example. Tell me who will win if we have a match between- AUS vs ENG? ans- AUS AUS vs WI ? ans- AUS AUS vs PAK? ans- AUS AUS vs SRI? ans- AUS AUS vs NZ? ans- AUS Everytime AUS is favorite..and there is more than 80% of chance that they will win. I can't remember when WI last win a test match..Every one will start to shout when it's comes to Bangladesh..starting from media,journalist & even some people who doesn't understand cricket. Bangladesh will never be able to compete with AUS becoz of their cricket infrastructure.. But they are playing better cricket now & if they start to win and come up to 6-7th ranking as a team in next 5 year it will be a great achievement for them. By the way India lost to ZIM not once, twice in one series!! what would you say if BD loses to ZIM? Don't try to prove urself stupid!!

  • CMIS on June 4, 2010, 22:00 GMT

    To everyone who's saying Bangladesh are crap, and especially to the Indians in that party, I say you have memories of goldfish. Remember what kind of a team India were in the 90s? Hell, they could not win a single match overseas for the most part of the decade. I understand where detractors are coming from. I myself (a Bangladeshi) agree that they were thrown into the fray too early, chiefly because there was no first-class competition to speak of. They had to learnt to swim at the deep end of the pool. All previous entrants into the test club (teams like Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka) had been playing first-class cricket for years. Even now, they can't string two good days of test cricket together. I am convinced tomorrow will be a bad day because they played well today. But development takes time. India played badly enough to be demoted in the 90s (please don't point to their home record on doctored pitches). But they weren't, and look where they are now. Still a crap fielding side, though

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on June 4, 2010, 21:57 GMT

    @ Keyur Mandrekar, don't worry too much about Bangladesh, because your gonna need alot of your energy being worried about India. Bangladesh will whip you more emphatically the next time we face India. The time that India had to develop their test game (something like 100 years maybe), Bangladesh will be 4 times better. Heres a word of advice for you freshies, just concentrate on beating Zimbabwe. Goodluck (p.s. Sachin is still one of my favourite batsmen).

  • ssarka11 on June 4, 2010, 21:47 GMT

    why people are questioning about bangladesh? when they play bad, people say they should be eliminated from test playing country, when they play good, they are not good enough. but it is true, bangladesh will be capable in next five years not only to fight, also beat any country like timid india, unpredictable pakistan or other best test playing countries. or may be other people are scared to see the improvement of bangladesh.

  • on June 4, 2010, 20:56 GMT

    Dont really agree with you here Andrew. Yes their has been a steady progress in the way Bangladesh has battled in the last few months. But this time they are giving a fight because maybe even England does not have the bowlers for that. Yes England won T20, and yes they are confident right now.But would you actually expect something similar to happen if Bangladesh was playing Australia against the likes of Johnson, Bollinger maybe even Brett Lee. Its just a way another way of saying Bangladesh sucks as a Test playing nation and they have to work wonders to come to the point where they could make a team like Australia or India or South Africa follow on.

  • _Rafi_ on June 4, 2010, 19:36 GMT

    Thats good control and come back by BD bowlers. They restricted England to score too much from day 1 despite KP's flourish. Much better performence from Lords where they conceded 360 runs in day 1

  • ScriptWriter on June 4, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    Either Bangladesh have progressed or England have been plain rubbish. We will know once Bangladesh play another side.

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  • ScriptWriter on June 4, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    Either Bangladesh have progressed or England have been plain rubbish. We will know once Bangladesh play another side.

  • _Rafi_ on June 4, 2010, 19:36 GMT

    Thats good control and come back by BD bowlers. They restricted England to score too much from day 1 despite KP's flourish. Much better performence from Lords where they conceded 360 runs in day 1

  • on June 4, 2010, 20:56 GMT

    Dont really agree with you here Andrew. Yes their has been a steady progress in the way Bangladesh has battled in the last few months. But this time they are giving a fight because maybe even England does not have the bowlers for that. Yes England won T20, and yes they are confident right now.But would you actually expect something similar to happen if Bangladesh was playing Australia against the likes of Johnson, Bollinger maybe even Brett Lee. Its just a way another way of saying Bangladesh sucks as a Test playing nation and they have to work wonders to come to the point where they could make a team like Australia or India or South Africa follow on.

  • ssarka11 on June 4, 2010, 21:47 GMT

    why people are questioning about bangladesh? when they play bad, people say they should be eliminated from test playing country, when they play good, they are not good enough. but it is true, bangladesh will be capable in next five years not only to fight, also beat any country like timid india, unpredictable pakistan or other best test playing countries. or may be other people are scared to see the improvement of bangladesh.

  • Bengali-Tiger007 on June 4, 2010, 21:57 GMT

    @ Keyur Mandrekar, don't worry too much about Bangladesh, because your gonna need alot of your energy being worried about India. Bangladesh will whip you more emphatically the next time we face India. The time that India had to develop their test game (something like 100 years maybe), Bangladesh will be 4 times better. Heres a word of advice for you freshies, just concentrate on beating Zimbabwe. Goodluck (p.s. Sachin is still one of my favourite batsmen).

  • CMIS on June 4, 2010, 22:00 GMT

    To everyone who's saying Bangladesh are crap, and especially to the Indians in that party, I say you have memories of goldfish. Remember what kind of a team India were in the 90s? Hell, they could not win a single match overseas for the most part of the decade. I understand where detractors are coming from. I myself (a Bangladeshi) agree that they were thrown into the fray too early, chiefly because there was no first-class competition to speak of. They had to learnt to swim at the deep end of the pool. All previous entrants into the test club (teams like Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka) had been playing first-class cricket for years. Even now, they can't string two good days of test cricket together. I am convinced tomorrow will be a bad day because they played well today. But development takes time. India played badly enough to be demoted in the 90s (please don't point to their home record on doctored pitches). But they weren't, and look where they are now. Still a crap fielding side, though

  • shonkhochil on June 4, 2010, 22:16 GMT

    @Keyur Mandrekar-- You should be ashamed of your comment. Your comment actually shows your understanding of cricket..Let me give you an example. Tell me who will win if we have a match between- AUS vs ENG? ans- AUS AUS vs WI ? ans- AUS AUS vs PAK? ans- AUS AUS vs SRI? ans- AUS AUS vs NZ? ans- AUS Everytime AUS is favorite..and there is more than 80% of chance that they will win. I can't remember when WI last win a test match..Every one will start to shout when it's comes to Bangladesh..starting from media,journalist & even some people who doesn't understand cricket. Bangladesh will never be able to compete with AUS becoz of their cricket infrastructure.. But they are playing better cricket now & if they start to win and come up to 6-7th ranking as a team in next 5 year it will be a great achievement for them. By the way India lost to ZIM not once, twice in one series!! what would you say if BD loses to ZIM? Don't try to prove urself stupid!!

  • on June 4, 2010, 22:30 GMT

    This is a good fighting from Bangladesh. They are doing there best. People from Bangladesh is always support them. I don't want to argue with anyone who is comments that icc should take Bangladesh test status or Bangladesh sucks. That is totally rubbish. England is playing cricket from 16th century, and they play there 1st test in 1877 march 15 against Australia. Bangladesh got there test status only recently (10 November 2000). When ever Bangladesh plays against England, Australia or New Zealand that time they have to play not only those team but also umpire. Other ways Bangladesh should win 2/0 against England in home series. Now a day's people watch cricket live (TV) and they watch closely too, everyone saw what's happened there. So please don't say rubbish thing, just enjoy the game.

  • on June 4, 2010, 23:09 GMT

    if a weak team perform little good vs a strong team,they need play far far well than strongs.

  • shonkhochil on June 4, 2010, 23:33 GMT

    I thought I got angry alone..seems like not! Bangladesh kicked out India from the first round of world cup last year.. They beat SA runner up of the last world cup in the same tournament.. After 'Ordinary Shewag' calling Bangladesh ordinary their extraordinary team were bowled out for 243 runs and Mr. Shewag didn't even dare to come into the press conference! Last ENG vs BAN series Rod Tucker & Tony Hill two umpires given so many decision wrong decision against BAN it seems like BAN were playing against 13 player ..whole ENG team & two Umpires!! We are proud of our team & we know they are doing better & better.. there will be some bad days..but we can see good days are not far & in those days people like ScriptWriter or Keyur Mandrekar will not find any place to hide!