Somerset v Indians, Tour Match, Taunton July 17, 2011

Somerset happy to 'bully' India

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Somerset believe they have played an important part in giving England a head start to the Test series against India after being able to "bully" the visitors for three days in Taunton. The Indians were never a threat in their lone warm-up match before Lord's as their bowling was twice taken apart and the batting folded for 224.

For most of the contest, once they had lost the toss on a flat pitch, the Indians didn't appear to have their heart in the game whereas the county side took it very seriously. They were determined to limit the value India could take from the outing, which is why they didn't enforce the follow-on. Then Peter Trego embarrassed them with a 57-ball 85, which left them looking well short of readiness for the first Test.

"I fully understand it's quite difficult for Test sides to get themselves up for these games, however it's about practising good habits," Andy Hurry, the Somerset coach, said. "They are going to come up against a stern test against a side challenging to be No. 1, so they'll have to lift their game. I'm sure they will, playing at the home of cricket, but it's been interesting - their approach and how that reflects in the way they performed.

"It was important that we gave it our best shot and really put them under the pump. We won the toss on a great batting pitch, dominated the game and started to bully them, which is a great position for England to sit back in their seats and appreciate what we have done for them.

"We had an opportunity to build scoreboard pressure, then got our rewards and bowled them out," he said. "They were looking for the follow-on but we weren't giving them that. It was an opportunity for us to go in again and reinforce our position before giving them a little dart at the end to try and bowl them out."

Andrew Strauss, preparing for the Test series with a guest appearance, made the most of his time with scores of 78 and an unbeaten 109 to ensure he enters the main contest in good spirits following his lean time against Sri Lanka earlier in the season. Hurry couldn't praise Strauss highly enough for his short spell with the team and the benefit it brought to the younger players.

"It's been a perfect three days for him," Hurry said. "We kept the Indians in the field for a number of overs. He looked really busy at the wicket and built his innings. He's been outstanding to have in the changing room. The boys have thrived on having him around. He's been a real good egg.

"It's had a huge positive effect on the younger players. Guys who have aspirations of playing for England now understand what the England captain is about. He has an aura about him. [As he] sat in the changing room, the guys were listening to everything he said about batting and the England set-up. It's been positive from all sides."

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on July 20, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    Perhaps it's good that Somerset gave a thrashing to India. It is good to lose complacency at the start of the series. Despite their recently acquired strengths, Indians remain very emotional. The best way to bring the best out of the Indian team is to hurt their pride - not too much - but just enough. If India had lost to Somerset by an innings, it could have demoralized the team completely - jeopardizing the whole series. But what Somerset did to them was the right kind of jolt. It has made the billions in India anxious and this I hope is going to fire the team up in the right directions. Let's see what happens tomorrow... Wishing good luck to the whole of India..

  • on July 19, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    God! Why do people forget that this Indian test team is even more stronger than the ODI team which won the World Cup! Digest the truth...India is the Number one test team..So its obvious that we will win..!Dhoni did a smart thing by not exposing his main players in this practice match..Just wait and watch. No one can beat India with such class players. !

  • vimalkm on July 19, 2011, 10:21 GMT

    Is it just me or is most of the conversation here mindless!!! 1.India are No.1 -they deserve it they have played well in india and outside 2.England are a very good test team and they will give India the run for there money if not more! 3.This game-India obviously were out classed simple! oh Shewag was not there Laxman was not there..excuses! There is no excuse for the performance! 4.BUT a test match is different ..its like Andy Murray winning over Nadal in small ATP tours.When the big game comes the big guys step the gear up!

    All together its going to be an awesome Test series and i think it will be a draw! one match will be rain havocked. and India might win one and England one!

    Lets us all be good cricket lovers and enjoy the game! Saying all that i really hope India win's just to SHUT up the critics who say they dont deserve to No:1.

  • Vilander on July 19, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    @ Truemans_Ghost , your inability to see reason does not annoy me though. India beat england home and away, yup india won last time in ENG. So what do you have to say about this now ? i maintain if Eng beat india at their home they do just that and nothing more, its not some magic golden pass no 1, sorry.

  • luv28kapur on July 19, 2011, 8:42 GMT

    Seems to me that the practice match was meant more for the england captain rather than the visiting team.

  • Looch on July 19, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    @Cricket_Analyst "Prior to 90's Eng/Aus used to tour Ind only once in 6-8 years with Test series sometime being limited to Lone tests". The Australian tours before 1990 56/57 3 tests, 59/60 5 tests, 64/65 3 tests, 69/70 5 test, 79/80 6 tests, 86/87 3 tests The English tours before 1990 33/34 3 tests, 51/52 5 tests, 61/62 5 tests, 63/64 5 tests, 72/73 5 tests, 76/77 5 tests, 81/92 6 tests, 84/85 5 test Tests against the current "Number1" team have always been important to the side playing them. Like Australia in late 90 and early 00's, like the Windies in the 80's and early 90's, and now it's India. Lord's is the "home Ground" of international cricket and always will be. You can believe what you want but please check your facts.

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    absolutely love it! Bait well bitten! England still 2-0 though! And I know Zummerzet are a quality team Oi lived there many a year..... But they didn't have their frontline bowlers did they? Lords first morning if England win toss and its a cloudy day India at 69-5 at lunch...... hahahahaha!

  • gandabhai on July 18, 2011, 20:08 GMT

    The biggest difference between team India & team England is a certain ' Super Dhoni ' . A champion if there ever was one. And he's on our side , too bad .

  • pr3m on July 18, 2011, 16:19 GMT

    India will never be good starters, and with the work ethic prevalent in the country, will never take county games seriously. Also keep in mind that this wasn't the first 11, and a few players who will make the Test team were sitting out/rested.

  • bat_bowl_field on July 18, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    Love seeing how all English fans are jumping the gun predicting big wins for their team. Just remember you can't be number 1 without winning away from England, especially in the sub-continent. Something you have not done! The Ashes only means something to England and Australia, no one else cares! When the last Ashes took place it was 4 vs 5. India to win this series 2-0 or 2-1, then to go conquer the final frontier in Australia this Australian summer and show the world and all those doubters why they are number 1. All the old colonials better get used to it and stop being jealous and complaining, no longer will India be bullied.

  • on July 20, 2011, 17:47 GMT

    Perhaps it's good that Somerset gave a thrashing to India. It is good to lose complacency at the start of the series. Despite their recently acquired strengths, Indians remain very emotional. The best way to bring the best out of the Indian team is to hurt their pride - not too much - but just enough. If India had lost to Somerset by an innings, it could have demoralized the team completely - jeopardizing the whole series. But what Somerset did to them was the right kind of jolt. It has made the billions in India anxious and this I hope is going to fire the team up in the right directions. Let's see what happens tomorrow... Wishing good luck to the whole of India..

  • on July 19, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    God! Why do people forget that this Indian test team is even more stronger than the ODI team which won the World Cup! Digest the truth...India is the Number one test team..So its obvious that we will win..!Dhoni did a smart thing by not exposing his main players in this practice match..Just wait and watch. No one can beat India with such class players. !

  • vimalkm on July 19, 2011, 10:21 GMT

    Is it just me or is most of the conversation here mindless!!! 1.India are No.1 -they deserve it they have played well in india and outside 2.England are a very good test team and they will give India the run for there money if not more! 3.This game-India obviously were out classed simple! oh Shewag was not there Laxman was not there..excuses! There is no excuse for the performance! 4.BUT a test match is different ..its like Andy Murray winning over Nadal in small ATP tours.When the big game comes the big guys step the gear up!

    All together its going to be an awesome Test series and i think it will be a draw! one match will be rain havocked. and India might win one and England one!

    Lets us all be good cricket lovers and enjoy the game! Saying all that i really hope India win's just to SHUT up the critics who say they dont deserve to No:1.

  • Vilander on July 19, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    @ Truemans_Ghost , your inability to see reason does not annoy me though. India beat england home and away, yup india won last time in ENG. So what do you have to say about this now ? i maintain if Eng beat india at their home they do just that and nothing more, its not some magic golden pass no 1, sorry.

  • luv28kapur on July 19, 2011, 8:42 GMT

    Seems to me that the practice match was meant more for the england captain rather than the visiting team.

  • Looch on July 19, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    @Cricket_Analyst "Prior to 90's Eng/Aus used to tour Ind only once in 6-8 years with Test series sometime being limited to Lone tests". The Australian tours before 1990 56/57 3 tests, 59/60 5 tests, 64/65 3 tests, 69/70 5 test, 79/80 6 tests, 86/87 3 tests The English tours before 1990 33/34 3 tests, 51/52 5 tests, 61/62 5 tests, 63/64 5 tests, 72/73 5 tests, 76/77 5 tests, 81/92 6 tests, 84/85 5 test Tests against the current "Number1" team have always been important to the side playing them. Like Australia in late 90 and early 00's, like the Windies in the 80's and early 90's, and now it's India. Lord's is the "home Ground" of international cricket and always will be. You can believe what you want but please check your facts.

  • on July 19, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    absolutely love it! Bait well bitten! England still 2-0 though! And I know Zummerzet are a quality team Oi lived there many a year..... But they didn't have their frontline bowlers did they? Lords first morning if England win toss and its a cloudy day India at 69-5 at lunch...... hahahahaha!

  • gandabhai on July 18, 2011, 20:08 GMT

    The biggest difference between team India & team England is a certain ' Super Dhoni ' . A champion if there ever was one. And he's on our side , too bad .

  • pr3m on July 18, 2011, 16:19 GMT

    India will never be good starters, and with the work ethic prevalent in the country, will never take county games seriously. Also keep in mind that this wasn't the first 11, and a few players who will make the Test team were sitting out/rested.

  • bat_bowl_field on July 18, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    Love seeing how all English fans are jumping the gun predicting big wins for their team. Just remember you can't be number 1 without winning away from England, especially in the sub-continent. Something you have not done! The Ashes only means something to England and Australia, no one else cares! When the last Ashes took place it was 4 vs 5. India to win this series 2-0 or 2-1, then to go conquer the final frontier in Australia this Australian summer and show the world and all those doubters why they are number 1. All the old colonials better get used to it and stop being jealous and complaining, no longer will India be bullied.

  • Mri35 on July 18, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    What have they had played against somerset is useless this is just the one county team what will happen when india will against all 18 county team best in the national team england i cannot imagine how they will crush india

  • bigwonder on July 18, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    Funny how English fans fancy their fantasies out of a practice game. I guess they missed the word "practice". First and foremost, only Strauss from the practice game will be playing against India in a real test, 2nd India was missing Dhoni and India has a knack to come back after loses or drama like the one in practice.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 18, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    Dear ENG fans, admitted that Indians failed badly but did u ever ask these questions? Why do Strauss need warm-up at his home? Warm-ups are for visitors so where is the real warm-ups for Indians on real fast pitches? Don't you know that India is very strong on flat tracks? Don't you know that it's not easy to get acclimatized to England weather immediately especially for countries like India. Even though Indians failed...it's too early to decide about coming tests just based on this useless warm-ups. I see arrogance on both sides and the reason for that is Cricket craze in both countries.

  • KTiwari on July 18, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    I agree that yes India played poorly and yes it is bit of cause of concern. But I am quite hopeful that they will do much better in the real game as this game would have woken them up. In the end, this has done more good to India than harm becasue traditionally they have played poorly in the first test so hopefully that first test was this practice game.

  • on July 18, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    Sachin, Zaheer, Gambhir and Yuvraj came straight off injury to play their first match versus Somerset. Out of the WI bunch Bhajji, Dhoni, VVS, PK, Ishant, were all rested. Raina was the only guy who wasn't rusty - he played and duly notched up a childplay 100. PLUS those who know Cricket and cricketing conditions will understand how Taunton is to batters what Thailand is to bachelors - HEAVEN!! So it was nudely transparent that India were hardly even interested in the match after having lost the toss. Now, while that kinda spirit was definitely not laudable, it was obvious even to a 9-year-old in Mumbai that there WAS NO WAY under the sun on god's green earth that Indians were going to get out in twice in 3 days on that pitch!! That's a fact and that's undisputed (as was clealry proved in the second innings by the ease with which they batted); Indians knew it, and more importantly, Somerset knew it better than the Indians, which was substantiated when they didn't enforce the follow on

  • Ram_UK on July 18, 2011, 15:09 GMT

    @5wombats. U might have gained lots of attention but made very little friends here. It looks like you are bad with history but that's all right mate u'll get enough chance to witness history India will make and u'll remember it for rest of ur life. If you think of Chin music our bowlers are capable enough to dish out the same treatment to opposition batsmen. U'll find out soon who is capable of doing what. Srilanka had just Sangakara, Jayawardane and Dilshan without any tooth to there bowling attack, even then u just managed to 1-0. Compare that line-up with present Indian Line-up with Dhoni at 6 and Bowling attack that won ODI Worldcup in India. If it were India Home series then you wouldn't have dared to dream of England winning the series and you boast England as current best team.

  • BigINDFan on July 18, 2011, 14:43 GMT

    Neutral analysis - Most visiting Sub-continental teams will fare badly in the warm-up games as they try to get used to the conditions. Ind. team is getting back as a unit after sending their A team to WI. When the "real" test series start hopefully the Ind team is as hungry as the Eng team then it will be a tough contest. Talent or quality wise there is not much seperating the two teams so don't be too hasty with your whitewash predictions. After all SA learned the hard way not to write off this Ind team :-) and it took a certain Jacques Kallis to square that series not long ago!

  • on July 18, 2011, 14:38 GMT

    y dont we all keep shut n watch the coming up series.. n all those u praise England.. they are an avg team away from home , at home a pretty good side, agreed.. but if we are gonna go down , which is highly unlikely.. we are gonna go down swinging..however Indians are slow starters ...Iam sure they will be prepared for the big one!! n all Pakistani's converted Eng fans now.. u shud worry abt wat ur country can do and not do and then comment on others

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 18, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    I just read this http://www.rediff.com/cricket/slide-show/slide-show-1-india-england-tour-game-quotes-india-will-bounce-back-in-the-tests-willoughby/20110718.htm

    Willoughby conceeds indians didnt take the game seriously and wouldn't play those kind of shots in real tests. Can't wait for the game to begin

  • PACERONE on July 18, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    England will do anything to try and win.Having Strauss play for another county is a perfect example.The bowling in the test will be much different.India has to take their catches.Strauss will give a chance early.As for England bowling...don't go fishing and India will be okay.Let them bowl wide as they usually do.Some talk about age...if age has talent along with experience that is a big difference.Against Somerset the Indian batsmen gave their wickets away trying to play aggressive cricket.VVS will be a big difference as he can play on any surface.

  • SettingSun on July 18, 2011, 14:18 GMT

    The amount of India fans whining about Strauss playing is hilarious.

  • KYZA on July 18, 2011, 13:39 GMT

    ha ha ha India looked sao poor, with Sreesanth & Praveen Kumar doing the bowling, they will be tested this summer, Zaheer seems to be a bit old now too!!! I think India will find it hard, with thier aging batsmen trying to play, Tendulkar is he back he must be 40 odd now, VVS is almost past it, and Dravid has been playing for almost 40 years, Ishant might bowl well if he can put a good 10 overs together, apart from that Raina looks good and also Kohli may play well, India batting is aging and bowling has not been great anyway, India will find it tough, like they did against NZ and more recently West Indies, Come ON ENGLAND

  • popcorn on July 18, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    This Series is as good as over. India whitewashed 4 nil.

  • Nampally on July 18, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    @ Tahir 1234: My wish list is practical & realistic. They should have at least 4 county matches before the test series starts. It is impossible for any visiting team to land in England, get used to cold climate, English pitches and in case of the Indians the English food, straight away. England is getting unfair advantage due to BCCI's scheduling folly.There were 4 top players, Sachin, Yuvraj, Zaheer and Gambhir coming off injury list and playing their first match vs. Somerset. On the other hand the guys who were playing in WI test series, Dhoni, Laxman, Harbhajan, Kumar, Ishan, were rested except for Raina, who scored a brilliant century. So don't be carried away by Somerset game performance.India is still the #1 in World in Tests and will play like champions in the LORDS test despite unfair advantage to England - playing without ample practice.Actually this should be a lesson to BCCI not to bungle up on schedule in such a thoughtless manner. Go India , lets play ball - Jai Ho.

  • 5wombats on July 18, 2011, 12:59 GMT

    My, my - it looks as if I've got a few peoples attention! There are a lot of history lessons being offered here. None of them is relevent. Aussies were busy giving us history lessons back last November and look what happened to them. @Inayat Cool; "its time u face da sweet chin muzic against the real champs"....!!! Are you sure you know what chin music is? Are indian bowlers capable of delivering it? I seriously doubt it.

  • bhaloniaz on July 18, 2011, 12:37 GMT

    Somerset won so the practice match has no importance, if Sreesath got a few wickets or Sachin scored a double it would be a predictor for what would happen in the real test.

  • spiritwithin on July 18, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    its still not possible to judge the final outcome of this series,both teams r at their peak,if england has the advantage of home & players at their peak then indian team has experienced players who knows how to cope with the situation...neither india nor england gonna win the series by 3-0 or 4-0 margin coz neither of them r like aus of past,my take-it will be 2-1 and it can be from either side,indian team already shown their mettle and they r no more poor travellers,england have shown they r no more the team of 1990's or early 2000's...its naive to read too much into a tour game which is used only to check ur techinical finesses...strauss vs zaheer,sachin vs tremlett,laxman vs anderson & gambhit vs swann will be the mini contest worth looking for

  • RecordHunter on July 18, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    @ sehwagologist-- Try to list up reasons for the failure as the test series unfolds...If we got KAPIL/SUNIL we will win etc etc...

  • Tigg on July 18, 2011, 11:24 GMT

    Should be an interesting series. Anderson and Zaheer are the two best swing bowlers in the world at the moment. Watching them in English conditions will be a treat.

    I'm a little suprised at the apparent expectation from Indian fans of a whitewash/comfortable win. Nobody can dney the class of the Indian batting lineup but most of them haven't had any match practice sicne the IPL (which is hardly good practice for Tests) and the ones that have generally struggled against the Windies. Ishant was looking good (but the Chanderpaul aside the West Indies aren't that formiddable). Bhaji has a world class amount of wickets at a distinctly sub-world class average.

    It will be close, but my money is on England.

  • Malay107 on July 18, 2011, 10:49 GMT

    Can anyone tell whether Strauss is from Middlesex or Somerset..As far I know he is from Middlesex..

  • JustIPL on July 18, 2011, 10:25 GMT

    @Nampally, your wish list is too long. you are looking for paradise where everything is of your choice. Do you mean all countries should adjust to Indian priorities. Like all of them should have an IPL window etc. etc. It is too early to start blaming coach for the schedule. Indian board wanted to give their kings rest and therefore they agreed to such schedule. May be it is over confidence and taking it casually. Zaheer has already lost the battle while strauss faced upfront. That is the character required off India if they claim to be number one. Furthermore, Zaheer is not the only factor as he may have wanted to use the only practice game following his disappointed series agains the Lankans. Anyway, England are not up for a cake walk. Full strength Indian team will be batter than sri lankans so results of the practice game don'e mean anything.

  • on July 18, 2011, 10:16 GMT

    i still feel instead of mukund india should try promoting msd as attacking weapon with gasmbhir in sehwags absence for 1st two tests so that raina and yuvraj can be handy lower down the order..that way india will play almost 5 bowlers considering lords pitch day 4 n 5 gona assist bit of spin and along with harbhajan yuvraj can play as left arm spinner (can surely trouble kp if not any1 else)and also raina can bowl..

  • wanderer52 on July 18, 2011, 10:16 GMT

    After watching a totally unenterprising Somerset failing to do anything to make a game of it at Trent Birdge last week, the attitude of the coach is hardly surprising. It makes you wonder if they were under orders from the powers that be to allow Strauss to bat as long as possible.

  • on July 18, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    is der anywhere written dat cricket shud be played only under seaming n bouncing conditions???...and players who can play under these conditions are only good??? its a game of skill shud be played on all kinds of tracks be it spin friendly or pace friendly...if india wins on flat wickets...dat means our bowlers are skilled enuf to pluck 20 wickets which other bowlers are not right??? n the present team has won in all the conditions say NZ SA WI SL OZ ENG(2007) so whats da debate about?? england are yet to proove der mettle out of der backyard...stop talking about ashes ..is dat all u got??

  • on July 18, 2011, 10:04 GMT

    @CRICSL before commenting on india status just look at your team whos lost 1st test in 1 session..mahela cant handle swing and seam in eng aus or sa and samarweera nearing retirement..only star u have is wclass sangakkara ..other than him sl is worst than zim..use all kind of unothodox cricket to get wickets..and about age atleast we managed to win wc with our next gen unlike yours who still went for jayasuriya at 42 ..murali retired at 38-39 and vaas still wants to play next wc..

  • machaman on July 18, 2011, 9:58 GMT

    All the talk here is about England vs India, but why no talk about the STAR of the match, Arul Suppiah with 156 and 58 who hails from Malaysia? Not only that, he is also now the World Record holder for the best bowling figures in a 20/20 match...I think that should be the memory of this 3 day match

  • bhaloniaz on July 18, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    India and England both are very good teams. India were outplayed, that does not mean India cannot win in lords, it just means india is under-prepared and Tremlett & Co may trouble india a lot. A few indian fans are unaware that their team may as well lose the series. Anyways even if they lose 2-1 or draw 1-1, indian fans will see it as a (series) win (See the number of posts about indian fans' comments on the Perth test win when they lost the series or a test victory in RSA). India has better chance of beating England in England than beating Australia is Australia. England has an edge, may not by far. God forbids Sachin or anyone else gets an lbw against swan, there would be 100s of posts about it.

  • on July 18, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    It is amusing to see the extreme reactions to a practice game! The only thing interesting is that Strauss managed to make some runs finally! Of course English fans need to understand that neither Zaheer nor Ishant are going to bowl at half the pace at Lords. I am sure England are a good, confident side who have beaten a weak Australia, convincingly. Three innings defeat is as good as it ever gets. India of course will be a slightly different kettle of fish. Both the top Australian batsmen Ponting and Clark were woefully out of form. The Indian batting order is in good form, or should be though we will certainly miss Sehawag who can change the course of the game in a few overs. In any case there is no point in talking about what might have been. The series will be interesting, but neither team will be a push over. The conditions will be key but if there is seam and bounce, India is better suited to use it than Sri Lanka certainly. Too close to call, though England just might squeak in!

  • Cricket_Analyst on July 18, 2011, 9:54 GMT

    ...(Cont'd)...Ind. was never ranked 2nd during this time...Check the statistics.....http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=won;spanmax2=31+jan+2008;spanmin1=6+feb+1992;spanval1=span;spanval2=span;team=2;template=results;type=team;view=opposition. To all people who believe Ind will lose the series, Keep on dreaming, The Test series will be in Ind's favor or might be a tie at 1-1. But Ind ain't going to lose the series mate.

  • on July 18, 2011, 9:50 GMT

    Watch out England! India will white wash you! As for home ground and support thing, You bet more than half of the crowd will be we Indians cheering for our heroes!:) Strauss may be on a high after his innings.. but as they say.let the losers enjoy small happiness before the REAL GAME ;) Consider the result of this practice match a small gift before India makes you cry! As for players..Even in absence of Sehwag, we have Gambhir( Has been The ICC test player of the year), Sachin(God himself!),Rahul Dravid(The wall..getting stronger with age),VVS Laxman( The Mr.Dependable),MS Dhoni(The name is enough to announce the result.. INDIA win the series),Suresh Raina (The rising star),Yuvraj Singh(Wait till he comes out on Thursday. ),Zaheer Khan( He will get Strauss next time!),Bhajji(400 wkts seems less.England beware ha ha!) Ishant( Tall and deadly!) and Praveen Kumar( He will make your batsmen sweat)

    P.S: Is your Stuart Broad playing?Ha ha! Would love to see six sixes by Yuvraj once again!

  • Cricket_Analyst on July 18, 2011, 9:50 GMT

    ..(Cont'd) @ David Lockett : Lord's was the birth place of Cricket.But the world order has changed. You Can believe what you want to.Prior to 90's Eng/Aus used to tour Ind only once in 6-8 years with Test series sometime being limited to Lone tests.Now Aus/ Eng play 4 tests with Ind.Apart from Ashes,This is the longest series either of the teams play against any other team. Why even Strauss & Waugh have acknowledged that series with Ind is on Par with Ashes. This speaks volumes as ashes is around 125 year old rivalry.@ 5wombats:Team India does not need your approval for number 1 position.Eng haven't beaten Ind. in a series since 96,whether the series has been played in Eng or Ind.Ind.has defeated Eng both at Ind.& Eng during this time.@Andrew Gray:The consistent defeat against Aus did not affect Eng rankings by any way.For a significant part either Eng/SA would be ranked below Aus even though Ind.was the only team to fight Aus close. ...(Cont'd)

  • CRICSL on July 18, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    @Pankaj_INDIA- Dude jalousies are your ageing stars because they blocked the doors of young starts. And GOD of cricket is for only India not for any other country (God always very reasonable unlike GOD of cricket very selfish). Just wait and watch your batting credentials when they face ENG attack. @Sehwagologist-if 38 is not almost 40 then what you call it almost 20??? LOL and how long these dravid-digger laxman-saviour sachin-genius will rescue IND? And according to you they will never retire good for IND due LOL..

  • on July 18, 2011, 9:36 GMT

    I dont understand as to why a big deal is made out of the result of the practice match. It was all about India getting a feel of the conditions & realizing what all rectifications has to be made to the technique so as not to repeat the mistakes committed during the practice match. England is definitely a good team with almost all of their players in good nick but India isnt bad either considering we have been the No.1 for more than a year now, though the absence of Sehwag is definitely a huge blow. There is no doubt that England will have a slight edge in the First test as India might still be a slight circumspect with the conditions & occasion, but from then onwards I expect it to be an even contest. If India can atleast manage to draw the First test, then the English will find the going tough!!!

  • tomhedley on July 18, 2011, 9:30 GMT

    Arnab, it's England not the Brits! Keep that up and I'll have to refer to Bombay and Madras!

  • Cricket_Analyst on July 18, 2011, 9:23 GMT

    Looking at anti Team India Comments, get a feeling that the whole world is waiting for us to 'trip'(fall) on this tour.The fact is we have been doing well for a long time, and as usual this is getting under the skin of loads of people.They are digging up a statistic of an inconsequential practice match to have a go at Team India,clearly speaks volume of frustration.@ CRICSL : Sachin,Rahul & VVS r performing really well for the last few years. Don't understand that Logic coming from a team which ensured players like Ranatuga,Aravinda, Sanath etc. play well past their prime. @ Imran Raman, Jibran Khan : Mate worry about batting of your team which made scores below 100 in Tests against Aus/Eng.last year and retains a pathetic keeper like Kamran Akmal since he can bat better than most of batsmen. @ James Badge Wing : Agreed that Eng achieved the same result in SA like Ind.However considering the conditions are similar in Eng/SA they should have won & not drawn the series...(Cont'd)

  • on July 18, 2011, 9:22 GMT

    India will gladly 'bully' England (if the weather permits) in this series... Andrew Strauss himself told this will have no impact in the actual test match (remember SL tour).

  • tomhedley on July 18, 2011, 9:07 GMT

    This is what Australian state teams used to do to us so it's hardly inconsequential! The harder you practice the luckier you get!

  • mvsraju on July 18, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    tour game is just a tour game, i think the real battle starts at lords for many reasons 2000th test..100th between..and only 100 required from sachin to get 100 - 100's in international cricket and more importantly it gives England an opportunity to reach ICC top test spot for the first time it was introduced. my prediction for lords game dravid and trott will get big scores, anderson and ishanth will bowl crucial spells for thier side ..could end up draw or narrow win for any of the sides.

  • Rocket_180 on July 18, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    England have and always will be a poor ODI side, so people need to forget the result in that format were on about the test arena where in the last (14 tests) 18months or so England have a better record than India FACT, England have a better bowling unit then India, The batting is very simlair for both teams, i know Indians batsman have been around for longer so have more runs in there history, but both teams have simlair averages in there sides (india's lightly higher mainly cause they play more test in sub contient on poor slow flat batting wickets where wickets are rare) but both teams regualry make 400+ scores.

    India its about time you woke up and reliesed that yeh your a great side and some of your players will go down as greats of the game, but you need to respect this England side because 11vs11 they are as good if not a slightly better side than this India side stats

    England will win this series 3-1 and finish it as world number 1 where they belong

  • mathewjohn2176 on July 18, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    5 wombats ,when you say India not doing good enough outside subcontinent,the same goes to England as well (except the last ashes series in aus).If England win the series and reach no 1 , they don't deserve to be no1 by considering your statments that you feel currently India are not no .1 ,only for the reasons that England yet to perform and win in subcontinent by beating srilanka and India.so in that case the ranking are balanced.England by winning in home condition can't be considered as no1 team,whereas india beat england last in home and away series.so if you want to claim England no1,let them play outside England and win in subcontinent as mahela rightfully said.

  • on July 18, 2011, 8:24 GMT

    @5wombats...dude let me refresh ur memory last time we came here we WON..okk..forget about u ppl winning in india it might take 20 more years...now u guyz lost to windies recently right??..all out under 100 something n yah dat was not a practice match.. was it?? and yah da same amla develliers smith morkel team drew wid us coz of great kallis or else dey were almost undone by our side...all ur teams tantrums are coz of ur ashes win against a depleted oz side...its time u face da sweet chin muzic against the real champs...n yah ask ur rookies to party coz dey didnt get to bowl at indians again....

  • on July 18, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    @CRICSL: Its because they are still the best and not only in India but world over, and u can see that in recent records. Place in national side is earned not gifted or granted. if some needs to show up in this team it will be when they prove that now they are ready to take their position. Moreover regarding this warm up match, there is just one line don't judge a book by its cover. You will see why this team is No. 1 side in test cricket once series get going.

  • Haleos on July 18, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    @5wombats - bring it on.

  • ramli on July 18, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    .... giving them a little dart at the end to try and bowl them out ... ha ha ha .. what a comedy .... Somerset paved way for Strauss to get into the groove ahead of the tests .. that is all ... this match in no way will dampen India ... in fact .. this match has made the team selection very easy ... go on India ..

  • Amber_varma_tendulkar on July 18, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    @5wombats; India played South Africa too , and we drew the series , the line up was the same . And do remember Indians are traditionally slow starters , remember the way we started 2003 World cup. And moreover England had lost their practice game when they toured India , in which Munaf Patel took a 10 wicket haul .I am sure India will beat England and show the world that we truly are world number 1.

  • on July 18, 2011, 7:59 GMT

    Indian cricketers should never play tour games. Atleast they can have an excuse in advance that there performance in test match was because there were no tour games scheduled.

  • Munkeymomo on July 18, 2011, 7:57 GMT

    @RufusM, beaten by BNG & Ireland sure, because India have never lost to Banglandesh have they? *Cough* 2007 world cup *Cough*. Nevertheless dont forget they were one-day game, which in this context is meaningless, everyone knows England aren't a great one-day side but this is Test match cricket, it is a different animal and England are a different side. At least think about what you're post before you hit send. Im not on these boards saying I expect England to win comfortably, certainly less biased than that, and thats certainly something in abundance around here.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on July 18, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    @5wombats you know what gimme a break u lost test series in 2007 to india 2008 to south africa 2008 to india 2009 to west indies 2009 drew to sa ( actually tailenders saved u the blushes or else u would have been walloped 3-1) so whats ur point for past 3 test series india sa have drawn what does that mean ? and "doctored pitch" i guess trentbridge is a dusty chennai,delhi track and durban is perth,barbados

  • on July 18, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    Who wants a wager that India does well at Lords. India has always been slow starters, and wickets like what we had in Taunton will help India more than England. However, I would love to see wickets like the ones in West Indies!! Let there be some song and dance and I would give anything to see Dhoni win the toss and insert the Brits on a helpful Lords track- Zaheer, Ishant and Praveen, with Harbhajan. So much for home conditions for the English!! Let it happen!

  • 5wombats on July 18, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    @zxaar @ssonkusare; who said anything about Somerset being the worlds number 1? This is a claim we keep hearing from several india fans. @Nampally - I like your posts which are generally informative and balanced so I hope not to offend you when I say that - honestly, England fans heard all those same excuses from Sri Lankan fans during the recent Test series, although the "different food" is a new one! @Ram_UK; couple of points of order for you; Hope you remember that when England played SA recently, they played against batting attack that had Amla, Kallis, Devillers, Smith ect, and bowling attack that had Steyn and Morkel ect. SA failed to win the series and only drew it due to a doctored pitch in the last test. Whether you like it or not, India is known for not doing well away from home against strong opposition - and we are soon going to see who really is the "Number 1 team" - instead of just constantly hearing about it from certain india fans.

  • RufusM on July 18, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    C'mon ppl...This Eng side was beaten by BNG & Ireland :..Need we say more...?? Just by winning against a no 5 Aus team u cannot say that u'r a no1 team...ENG will realise this soon come july 21st @ Lords.....Cricinfo pl post this

  • on July 18, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    I dont know why many people here are considering the result of a PRACTICE match and predicting the result of entire tourmament. In any practice the host domestic team always put 100% EFFORTS because the players in that team will be expecting a place in the coming tournament and that will be an one time opportunity for them to perform. Whereas the Tourist team need not put 100% EFFORT because the intention is not to win the match but to get accustomed to the conditions. If a tourist team didn't play the practice match properly, that means they need some more time to understand the conditions, not that they are INEFFICIENT.

  • flyingmachinee on July 18, 2011, 7:10 GMT

    Guyz watchout for praveenkumar.....................

  • Truemans_Ghost on July 18, 2011, 7:09 GMT

    Vilander, that (much voiced) logic annoys the hell out of me. Essentially you are saying if England win at home, it proves nothing, if India win at home, it proves everything

  • on July 18, 2011, 7:03 GMT

    Will need to see how fast India return to "the process" hmmm

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 18, 2011, 7:01 GMT

    @CRICSL: dude, you seem hell of jealous about india's batting stalwarts, thats why u want to see them retired, isnt it?? fans all around the world enjoy batting of GOD, WALL, VVS.. there is no need for them to retire just because they are 35+, they are not playing ODIs, but test cricket, which needs only good playing credentials, not <35 age or something. every team has ageing players, SL has j'wardene, sanga, OZ have hussey n punter (who is still playing despite woefully out of form), SA has kallis.. if these players can play, what problem is if indian stalwarts play?? in fact they are in best form of their life, why bother them retire just because few jealous fans outside india can't tolerate india dominating world cricket!!! POST THIS COMMENT CRICINFO, PLEASE.

  • KameshRao on July 18, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    Andrew and all English Fans..... These 3 days are inconsequential and when the action starts on the 21st, Strauss and England will have no where to hide!!. Strauss knows better than anyone else these runs count for nothing when he faces up to Zaheer in the test match. India is a slow starter to any series and unwittingly I think Somerset have done India a favour... they got their worst out of the way... so England watch out now. Any Hurry may well have to hurry and hide quickly - for his over exuberance!!.

  • HSAF on July 18, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    You are right Mr. Saumya Saxena. Dhoni is not there - he is the one who controls and handles the players quite well with many ideas. Allotment of the fields, bowlers and reading of batsmans on the middle - is completely different than Gambhir. Also he knows the mantra of extracting a magic power of a player or getting the most ability out of a player at different occasions. Now almost he is the moral support for each of the players. So his presence will vary the team a lot...

  • bobagorof on July 18, 2011, 6:41 GMT

    Yep, India may well cream England in the upcoming series, once they decide to play their god-like players - but for this match, they were completely outplayed!!! Somerset can only play against the team in front of them, and they dolled out an absolute drubbing!

  • on July 18, 2011, 6:40 GMT

    Hey perl57 Im an aussie, but to me the home of cricket will always be LORDS. Im sure other counties around the world feel the same way. A lot more players would rather play at LORDS than in INDIA mate

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on July 18, 2011, 6:36 GMT

    @crisl why did sanath came for a farewell match in eng when selectors gave him a sweet farewell by not selecting in 15 man WC squad ? sachin is 38 rahul 38(both are swifter than kandamby in running between wickets if u compare dravid apart from world'd best no.3 is best slip catcher holds record i rest my case for sachin i dont need to say) laxman is 36(very very specialist for 2nd innings and taking indian out of trouble) and if 38,38,36 seems almost 40 then srilankans insult maths and study their invented one u see dravid needs a minefield,laxman needs pressure and sachin carriesbillion peoples hopes u see our team members r versatile u understand meaning of word versatile ? dravid-digger laxman-saviour sachin-genius sehwag-intimidator gautam-streetfighter cum digger dhoni-master of controlling all of these and yet calm i guess thats enough noone can be replaced if they perform continuously

  • SamRoy on July 18, 2011, 6:32 GMT

    I completely agree with @GlinnMgraw. There is no great team in world cricket at the moment. Some teams are good and solid but have plenty of flaws in them (e.g. India, South Africa and England). England appears to be the least flawed out of the 3 but how their batsman bat in Sri Lanka and India in raging turners (like Kanpur and Premadasa) will decide how good that team actually is. Meanwhile, enjoy a good test series between India and England. In my view, England has a 40% chance of winning, 45% chance of a drawn series and India with 15% chance of winning (10% reduction in India's chances due to absence of the one and only Sehwag).

  • on July 18, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    @ sweetspot - the rankings definately weren't invented by India & yes they have done enough for to be ranked #1 - IF the rankings for team performances were like batting & bowling ratings, you would see that their overall score would be a lot less then say the Windies in the 80s & the Taylor/Waugh/early Punter Oz sides. What I'm getting at is that their overall performances are the best currently (great side), - but in a historical context, not a great side (if that makes any sense!). My biggest gripe with the rankings is that it is not a level playing field. Before England won the 2005 Ashes - in every 4 yr cycle they would get bashed over 10 tests by Oz, very few sides played Oz that many times (Sth Africa 6 & India sometimes not all), this meant a comparitively weaker Pommy side rated poorly because they theoretically were playing the best team in the world more than anybody else.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on July 18, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    @CRICSL..our senior players are legends and they are performing more fluent that youngsters and you have a dream like other teams that India will not be in top position after their retirement...but you must remember some names like Gambhir, Raina and off-course Sehwag. And donot forget Dhoni, he may not be scoring runs now, but he will do it when required.He will be a good test batsman when the seniors retire...and at that time you will tell..."what you will do when Viru, Gambhir, Raina and Dhoni retires !" LOL

  • on July 18, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    Guys...the team was without Dhoni, Laxman, Ishant and Harbhajan. Just wait and watch how the Indians are gonna whitewash the English at their own backyard:)

  • melvn on July 18, 2011, 6:14 GMT

    In the 1996 tour India lost the first match and drew the other 2. In 2002, India lost the first match and won a match from the rest(drew the series). In 2007 series India narrowly escaped the first match(a draw),then they won the series. So it is quite obvious that India takes some time to adjust to the new conditions. If India can draw the first match, they have a big chance to win the series. The one thing India should keep in mind is that this English team is a good unit,way far better than the 2007 team. And also India has become slightly weaker by the loss of Ganguly (Averages 65 in England), Kumble & Sehwag.

  • sweetspot on July 18, 2011, 5:43 GMT

    @Jibran Khan - India did not invent the ranking system! Maybe they have done what they need to do to be #1? Maybe the others have not? Is that remotely possible?

  • aarpee2 on July 18, 2011, 5:41 GMT

    I,for one would have expected the fringe players fighting for a place in the squad to at least try and make an impact to push for a place in the eleven for the first Test. Namelly,Sreesanth,Yuvraj,Mishra and Saha-pity they came a cropper and failed against an average county team completely-this I believe is not a good sign for Team India because these guys hope to get in for an injured player which does not auger well.

  • on July 18, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    That indian team didnt had dhoni...when dhoni comes in nobody can help england stop india from defeating them with ease. Watch out..

  • KingofRedLions on July 18, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    @Divya - India still being at number one says less about India, and more about the rest of the teams around the world.

  • CRICSL on July 18, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    @All Indian Fans- Can I know how many years more Sachin, Dravid and Laxman will play??? They are almost 40 aren't they?? I wonder why IND still defending on these great players and not giving way to young stars. Is that because IND afraid of loosing 01 spot without them?? Or IND just can't perform without them? Just curious to know...GOOD LUCK BOTH TEAMS!!

  • SSon_cric on July 18, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    People, dont you understand? This was a practice match for Andrew Strauss. Some guys here are talking about two sides involved, somerset and India. That's just trash talk, this was about Strauss, and what he wants.

  • JustIPL on July 18, 2011, 4:17 GMT

    No matter whether Somerset bullied Indians or exposed them taking heart from the West Indians who disrupted the cat walk despite being the number seven. More important is the fact that these players are public figures and should play for themselves. They have entertained the cricket lovers every now and then. This will elevate their self confidence and they will not be under pressure for their place in the team or improving their statistics. Take the example of IPL where they play to entertain public and give unbelievable performances but as soon as they become under pressure for their place in Team India they fall short. Any way we are up for an Anglo-Indian war in the cricket field but India will have to be brave and play the game for cricket lovers and not for their number one spot as ranking might change quickly but not the public following. Public backing will be very important for team india as if public dumps you then it is difficult.

  • eshwarmv on July 18, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    The indian team has always done well after being in a tight situation. Since time immemorial, the team miraculously lifts its performance after getting a lot flak from the public. It is a blessing in disguise for Team India. This match will surely fire them up for the first test at Lords. Atleast we can BE SURE that they will be putting more effort in the test match.

  • on July 18, 2011, 4:13 GMT

    @Julian: indeed u r gonna eat ur words. 2.for ppl who believe it gonna be a 3-0 whitewash from either side, watchout, it gonna be close. 3.for ppl who say this world no.1 team who cld nt come up with Somerset, u 2 are gonna eat ur words, when English team is gonna have a harsh time at home. Home advantage is home, n stauss at home needs practice match to start, dats insane of ur captain. 4.moreover we also din expose our frontline bowlers like ishant, zaheer n harbhajan n we din have dhoni playing as captain, wch is our main reason to be a no 1 side. so all i say is watch out when we start at Lords with a full strength team. I am sure Sachin is looking for 100th century at the home of cricket and he ll surely do it.

  • perl57 on July 18, 2011, 4:08 GMT

    Thank you Somerset, You showed Indians their place and now it is their chance to show your senior team where they belong....next to below them. Not higher. Tell me is Somerset coach really expecting this Indian team to take it lying down in first test? I guess he was in Mars then. Further, English need to remember this, No laxman, Ishant and Praveen. They did more than 50% in the last series. They do not even know how Praveen swings the ball. You got to be joking to be able to say that India will face a stiffer competition. Coz you really do not know what they are going to come up with in first test bowling. Batting wise, do not expect top six to go through another innings cheaply. World is your witness. No point talking more, England 0 India 2 for the series. Also, whats all this talk of home of cricket, Lords.. it is the birth place of cricket. From there on, it has changed, India has been the home of cricket for more than 2 decades now. Still count it for 2 more. Touchwood.

  • on July 18, 2011, 3:52 GMT

    Seriously English are way in over their head if they think this match is any indication of how the series is going to play out. Need I remind that in spite of their shortcomings India have been the number 1 test side for well over a year? Players with the class of Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman don't need any incentive other than the fact that they are representing their country in a test match to perform well. And as for Wacco who thinks India is ordinary without Sehwag, I would say that my team is not reliant on an opener for half the runs.

  • on July 18, 2011, 3:40 GMT

    Mate you can't feel the real thrill of the war till you go there!!! When you're in war then you will get that energy........This was only the tutoring for Somerset....Once Indian team is on real field for Test matches than all will be on full song........They may hit you with their Bats......don't give a dash Eng..... Watch on the 1st Test..... Gautam Ghambir will tear Eng bowling apart!! Ghambir rocks!!!

  • sskris1 on July 18, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    @Jibran_Khan this forum is for Ind vs,. Eng and PAK vs, ENG. I think u r confused.

  • Sukkrivaa on July 18, 2011, 3:27 GMT

    India really needs an explosive opener like sehwag

  • sskris1 on July 18, 2011, 3:27 GMT

    @Wacco: You words will come back to bite u.

  • on July 18, 2011, 3:16 GMT

    The reason of Indian pacers' poor show in this match is lack of match-practice of longer version of the game. Zaheer Khan and S Sreesanth played their last test in January 2011. Since then, they have played ODIs and unnecessary twenty20 matches in IPL ( to earn lot of money and injuries). The point is that twenty20 cricket spoils the mentality of a quality test bowler. The bowler seems to lose his patience, craftiness and hard work required to take wickets in a test after playing overdose of twenty20 matches. This is what has happened to Z Khan, M Patel and S Sreesanth in this practice match.

    Also, I suspect Zaheer Khan was not 100 % fit when he was selected for this England tour. He did not look 100 % fit in this match and that was also a reason for his poor show in the 1st innings. He hasn't bowled in the 2nd innings. I don't know what can be the reason, but if he is not fit; then India will definitely struggle in whole series with their bowling department.

  • landl47 on July 18, 2011, 3:15 GMT

    Ravi Kannan Chandrasekaran- how is giving up 685-5 and being bowled out for 224 going to help the Indians rethink their strategy? Isn't their strategy for the bowlers to take wickets and the batsmen to make runs? Since that didn't hapen, what are they going to do- have the batsmen bowl and the bowlers make runs? @Balu_raj: so not making any runs and not taking any wickets is good preparation for India? Wow, I'm surprised nobody else has thought of that! Now all they need to do is not to practise in the nets and they'll all be in great form. I guess when people are trying to put a good face on a thrashing they'll say any stupid thing to make it seem as though it's not so bad after all. India are a good team, but only Raina will have taken anything positive out of this match, and India's bowlers will be badly shaken by being taken apart so easily. Andy Strauss, on the other hand, must be delighted.

  • Yorker_ToeCrusher on July 18, 2011, 3:13 GMT

    This 'bullying' might just backfire for England.India might hit back hard at Lords and rest of the summer.

  • on July 18, 2011, 3:12 GMT

    Yes. Indians are slow starters. But this is a new age. And lets face it Somerset had only one test player and they have given India some lessons to be learnt. Zaheer didnt bowl and Tendu didnt come out to field !!! Was it a game plan or was it embarassement ??? Whatever, i thought it was very poor gamesmanship. We Indians have gotten too arrogant..and thats not good.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 18, 2011, 3:03 GMT

    @Nampally, why would they give follow-on if they wanted Strauss to bat which is the main purpose of this warm-up. They had waited for Strauss to finish his century before their declaration in second innings. They knew this is the first game for India in ENG after long time and would definitely struggle. But Indians struggled more than expected which says India need more practice. India didn't strain Zaheer in second innings after they realized that this game (on flat track) is no way useful for fast bowlers.

  • 7477 on July 18, 2011, 2:55 GMT

    i've told this before...if Strauss scores runs in the warm up match he will fail to score at least in the first test..a mere 45 days ago he scored a century against Sri Lanka in the warm up game but failed to pass even 30 during the entire series. mark my word he fill fall a victim to Zaheer Khan in the Lords Test. just see during the 2007 series he fell to Zaheer 04 times out of the 06 innings & looks like even after 04 years he's not learned his mistake by falling to lesser known Welegedera shamelessly. we all know how deadly Zaheer could be on these conditions given his rich county experience with Worcester...we can expect nothing but catches to the slip cordon & Prior by courtesy of Captain Strauss who chooses to score heavily in Warm up games but will surely be overshadowed by ever improving Alaistair Cook..

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 18, 2011, 2:39 GMT

    I am not criticizing ENG but when @dhakaWarriorzzz said mighty England I can definitely confirm that he is not supporting ENG but just criticizing India blindly.

  • on July 18, 2011, 2:39 GMT

    GUYS!!!! Bhaji wasn't playing, Sharma wasn't playing, laxman and Dhoni sat out, sehwag still resting, its gonna be a totally different side that walks on the field for the 1st test and a much better one. One thing india did learn from this game is that yuvraj certainly isnt ready for a test comeback.. i just hope that one day india learns that sreesanth cant bowl so they wont pick him

  • on July 18, 2011, 2:32 GMT

    India didn't take the Somerset lightly, they might just want England to feel that the No.1 spot is up for grabs divert their attention and beat them 3-0.

  • bigdhonifan on July 18, 2011, 2:21 GMT

    Lol.... Poms thinking they can thrash India....this match shows typical Indian mentality.... they wont take any practice match seriously!! Atleast here they played a practice match here!! otherwise they wont take the 1st test seriously!! Now Indian going to draw 1st 2 tests and then wins the last 2 tests!! 2-0 for India!! If India bats first in Ist test, they will bat for 2 days for sure, then match ends in a draw!

  • bobwd on July 18, 2011, 2:21 GMT

    When was the last time England won anything that really mattered?

    England talk a big game, but no matter the sport, they can't deliver, esp. when the chips are down and esp. against sides in full strength and full flight. Winning against a depleted Aussie side doesn't count for much, unless you are English.

  • allblue on July 18, 2011, 2:12 GMT

    It's interesting to note that another Duncan Fletcher side is arriving for a foreign tour and not bothering with much of a warm-up. This was something he did while with England, and ensuring the team had several proper, competitive warm-up matches was something that Flower and Strauss insisted on when they took over. On these modern condensed tours with back-to-back Tests, preparation beforehand is that more important because it can't happen once the series is underway. Of course the board has a big say in this, and heaven forfend that the BCCI might have considered reducing the IPL in some way to allow India proper preparation time for this hugely important tour. India are of course a hugely experienced team, so it's not that big a deal, but in tight contests the small margins matter, and I'm sure the England camp are delighted with the way things have gone this past week. Let's face it, Zaheer is hardly going to be match-fit going into the first Test is he?

  • morbidmaniac on July 18, 2011, 2:05 GMT

    Are you folks serious??..How could you say thats the best bowling with raina chipping in and 3 other trash bowlers doing the mop up?....certainly people ain't got any clue about the original bowling attack then and neither got the big picture eh?...head on to 21st at Grove End road people...Will talk then...for now lets enjoy the rain and scotch.

  • BJ2583 on July 18, 2011, 1:57 GMT

    Somerset team may think whatever they want.. Bottom line is our bowlers felt the conditions. Raina got some runs.

  • Wacco on July 18, 2011, 1:40 GMT

    ha ha - no excuses. Eng 3 Ind 0. India is a very ordinary team without Sehwag.

  • on July 18, 2011, 1:16 GMT

    Don't think India deserves to be no.1 in Test. England should maul the overrated Indians.

  • on July 18, 2011, 1:12 GMT

    Seriously this is absurd, how is this ever gonna help England. Doesn't this give a chance to the visitors to sit down and rethink their strategy? I mean, if India won comfortably then they wiill not think about anything before going into the 1st test. But now they have a lot to discuss before the 1st test and figure out how to correct their mistakes. And also not enforcing follow on and depriving the visitors some batting practice, I don't think that is in spirit of the game.

  • SajuSport on July 18, 2011, 1:02 GMT

    I fully agree with Stealth.BlckHwks, can't we just wait for few more days and let us judge , criticize , brag and do everything we want based on real facts.. base on how well each team does in the home of cricket and also in the following test matches!!

  • Balu_raj on July 18, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    This game has done loads of good for India .... We know Indian team is poor starters that i mean they ll play poorly in the first test of every series .. This time they had their poor game here and they are ready to GO !! Thanks Somerset !!

  • Angad11 on July 18, 2011, 0:43 GMT

    Its unbelievable how the English (and other India haters as well) have taken this warm-up match so seriously and they think they have already won the series, wish they only took the REAL QF of the World Cup so seriously and not get trashed by 10 wickets by SL. I think there is a reason why they call this a WARM-UP match, so pls save your comments for the REAL tests where it would some sense.

  • KAIRAVA on July 18, 2011, 0:31 GMT

    Somerset's captain is Alfonso Thomas, a South African. Did he had a say in the decision of not enforcing a follow-on over India, when it was available for the taking ? Or was Andrew Strauss the pseudo-captain for this match & he wanted the Indian middle order not to a have 2nd go & what was their last opportunity before Lords test ? Or did he want to utilise this match only for his batting ? Totally unsportsmanlike behavior towards your guests in the very first match on your soil. Shame on Somerset & shame on ECB for allowing this sham to happen.

  • Shan156 on July 18, 2011, 0:30 GMT

    One could read very little from this practice game and how it will affect the actual series result. For starters, India were not playing their first choice XI. Two, India are always slow starters. And three, they didn't lose.

    I am an England fan and would like nothing more than a series victory for England. But, most England fans, sane ones anyway, would acknowledge India's batting superiority. They have unearthed some nice young bowlers in Ishant Sharma and Praveen Kumar. They also have the experienced Zaheer Khan and the highest wicket taker among those currently playing in Harbhajan Singh. India are a strong team, have remained unbeaten at home for nearly 7 years and anywhere for nearly 3 years. So, they fully deserve their #1 ranking.

    At the same time, England are a good team too. They have decent depth in batting and probably a slight edge in bowling, considering they are playing in English conditions. I wouldn't take them lightly if I were an Indian.

  • on July 18, 2011, 0:23 GMT

    @Ram_UK India getting a draw in SA was a good result but you seem to forget that England did the same thing last time we were there, also we one the ODI series in SA as well. So when you say they fare better than the English Cricketers its not really baked up by the facts.

  • sachin1bradman2 on July 18, 2011, 0:21 GMT

    Apparently Scotland yard have hacked into all the secret strategies of the Indian cricket contigent causing listlessness amongst the players...! Credit must be given to Somerset for humbling the Indians, though the Poms should be careful not to read too much into this game (and celebrate prematurely), otherwise they could be in for a shellacking at Lords!

  • on July 18, 2011, 0:13 GMT

    I think it will be a different ball game at Lord's ....a bigger ground, a different Indian bowling line up..with a faster Ishant, swinging PK, and Zak ofcourse...also the batting line up will be formidable... Nothing can be concluded if Indian batting collapses once in a practice match.. look for more consistency from Laxman, Sachin, and Dravid. If Indians would have had the time for a 2nd batting stint, and performed poorly, I would have worried. But, once can be understood. Also, I hope that over- confident England witness a La Ganguly (remember Natwest Finals) at Lords...hahaha

  • intcamd on July 18, 2011, 0:02 GMT

    If trashing talking alone woud win you championships, Somerset would be the world's greatest team, and their coach would be thr Vince Lombardinof cricket. We all know that's not the case, so I will leave it to you what's wrong with that premise.

  • on July 18, 2011, 0:02 GMT

    India is an overrated team, if they can't manage to outscore a low county team how are they going to play against England. Pathetic performance by India, world champions or not, this is test cricket ladies, so stick to the topic. In Test England should be crowned number 1, India should be below South Africa and Australia.

  • Nampally on July 17, 2011, 23:39 GMT

    @swombats: Admittedly, Somerset outplayed India in this game. But you must realize that the visitors were playing their very first game after arrival in conditions different to those in India - cold weather, different food and different pitch conditions.In the second innings the openers did much better. Had Somerset given India a follow on, you may have seen a much better batting performance. India is #1 Test team but they were not playing only half of their test l team. While England players have been playing for the 1/2 a season to date, India is just starting off. Furthermore, Gambhir, Tendulkar, Zaheer & Yuvraj were recovering from injuries & playing their first game after recovery period. They were also at a psychological disadvantage. Raina who played in WI series did score a ton & Indian openers played well in the second innings. I expect a much better show in the Lords Test with active half from WI series - Dhoni, Laxman, Harbhajan, Sharma & Kumar, in XI.

  • AbhinavDixit on July 17, 2011, 23:30 GMT

    4th test wont be required to know the real champion : and by far it would be India

  • Stealth.BlckHwks. on July 17, 2011, 23:26 GMT

    Can we wait for couple of more days, than engage in a non-existent pseudo imaginary cyber war. Thank you for the patience.

  • NomDePlume on July 17, 2011, 23:24 GMT

    I don't understand the Somerset coach- a tour match is to be for the benefit of the tourists so that they can get adjusted to the conditions. A tour game should be on at least a test wicket on a large ground, with decent umpires so that the pitch, the ground is at least similar to the conditions in the test series. For scheduling a tour game in this fashion ECB is in violation of the spirit of the laws of cricket, if not the letter. When England visit India next, BCCI should schedule their tour match in Agartala, on a wicket which crumbles within a day and a half.

  • Nampally on July 17, 2011, 23:15 GMT

    Hopefully India plays with some heart in the Lords test starting on 21 July. Although it was a bit unsporting of Somerset not to give the visitors much needed batting practice, it appears the main aim was to humiliate the Indian team. With just one practice match before the tests, India is at a huge disadvantage for having agreed to such a schedule. I am hoping India will go in and play with lot of determination to fight out the England's pace bowlers.Their second innings performance by the opener appeared to be much better. Strauss will also face a slightly different set of bowlers and hopefully Zaheer will get his revenge by getting him out early.Ishant Sharma is quicker than Zaheer and can make the ball rise like Tremlett. It will be interesting whether he will find his length & direction. Can the Indian Fab 3 perform to their potential? If they do game is On.. Otherwise it will be over in hurry and India may realize their folly of agreeing to a terrible schedule. Good luck India.

  • zxaar on July 17, 2011, 22:56 GMT

    @5wombats , so you think Somerset should be ranked #1 team. If anyone really believe somerset type team has any real chance in *proper test* then he is deluded. Indians may have underperformed because they did not want to give away their cards. It was just a practice match and indians took it exactly that way.

  • on July 17, 2011, 22:56 GMT

    haaa. it seems funny by rating the no.01 team with this practice match... areee you all are gone crazy re.....??????? wait and watch out what India in the actual game man. seems funny how the coach of somerset trying to charge up the England team, but sir you are going to see another face of India in the MATCH. so you are estimating that your team (somerset) is now the best in the test cricket?????????? naughty.....see it yarrr....

  • on July 17, 2011, 22:40 GMT

    If you remember, India lost many practice games before both 1983 and 2003 world cups, but went till the finals..I guess it's a similar pattern again.

  • Ram_UK on July 17, 2011, 22:32 GMT

    @ 5wombat. Hope you remember that when India played SA last year, they played against batting attack that had Amla, Kallis, Devillers, Smith ect, and bowling attack that had Steyn and Morkel ect. They fare better when you compare them with any English cricketers. Whether you like it or not, India is No 1 test team in world cricket and are World Champions in ODIs and nothing will change at the end of the series.

  • phoenixsteve on July 17, 2011, 22:29 GMT

    If the weather had been better or it had been a 4 day game then India would have been truly smashed by an English county side. Yet the deluded Indian fans still think that India will win the test series..... go figure? We'll soon see who the best team is and maybe this absurd over rating of India will stop? Whatever, let's hope the Indians can at least raise their game to be a competitive side......May cricket be the ultimate victor.... COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • SSon_cric on July 17, 2011, 22:28 GMT

    BTW, who is this Andy Hurry anyway? Never heard of him. He is getting paid to speak those words I am sure.

  • SSon_cric on July 17, 2011, 22:25 GMT

    5wombats: I have literally started looking for you on cricinfo. I must agree with you on this, I would even go as far as saying that Somerset are the world's number 1 side. Even better than the England national side, who can only dream of achieving what somerset has in 3 days. Way to go somerset, and get more guys like Willoughby from South Africa so that you can go on to actually win a match than just bullying and not winning.

  • on July 17, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    Indian bowler & batsman are struggling against Somerset which is a county team,,,i wonder how they gonna handle Anderson,swann,broad,trammlet,,,,,,,,

  • Vilander on July 17, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    this series will decide a a winner in england conditions between ind and eng, thats all nothing more. Eng have been soundly beaten by this indian side already, so there is no need to harp any bigger. Eng anyway would have to beat india in india to talk of NO 1. Lets watch the series shall we ? But being beat around by a county side with hardly any impetus for india is indeed a big gain for england.

  • AbuUSA on July 17, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    India plays lots of cricket and it's not easy to motivate to excel every day every inning. They wanted to bat and practice. When they lost toss, they lost motivation. Very few players had motivation since they are fighting for place in team. Look for totally different/confident India. Hurry will be shocked - won't believe it's same India. A confident bunch..

  • 5wombats on July 17, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    As usual - a lot of big talk, but the truth is; Somerset bullied the hell out of india. Big talk needs to be backed up by big perfomances - and in this instance the big performances came from Somerset who were brilliant with bat and ball. Lets see; Somerset score 685/5 and bowl out "the world's number 1 team" (LOL) for 224 in 52 overs. It's fantasy cricket - tremendous Somerset!!!

  • Juiceoftheapple on July 17, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    Julian "Somerset are an average county team at best" hahahahaha....No really......hahahahahaha So, would that be the same Somerset team who have been finalists in England's T20 competition for the last 2 years, the finalists of the 40 over competition last year, equal top of the County championship last season, third place the year before, who beat Deccan Chargers in the Champions League, who this year hit the 5th highest T20 score in history. All based upon the fact that Somerset have the most destructive batting order in English domestic cricket. and We dropped Trescothick to let Strauss play - who is top of virtually every batting order and most valuable player stat this season - so we reduced our batting! And James Hildreth is the captain of the England Lions. As for Suppiah he hasnt been able to buy a run all season. As for Trego, as soon as the IPL looks beyond Aus, SA and Warneys mates for players you might see him one day in India - hence the battering he dished out.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 17, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    My point of view is...India did good job not exposing front line bowlers. Some people think this as mind game but what is the purpose of bowling on flat tracks when the real matches are being played on fast pitches. By playing on flat tracks ENG wanted to boost their own batsmen and destroy the confidence of Indian bowlers. Now ENG will be over-confident and underestimate India.

  • kalyankk1985 on July 17, 2011, 21:24 GMT

    @dhakaWarriorzzz : Do you really mean it when u say "mighty england"? :P

  • on July 17, 2011, 21:02 GMT

    Indian will show in the series what are they made of and will crush Englamd. It's only cook, who is doing dravid for them but this series will decide which side is champion And which side is not!

  • on July 17, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    Agree with Ram_UK that India are slow starters and that this result means very little. England should have taken advantage of the slow start last time and might get another opportunity this tour however. Looking forward to a good summer's cricket. Think it's going to be very close and am not going to try to call it. But those who think it is going to a whitewash from either side are delusional; both about the closeness of the contest and the inevitable contribution of the British weather.

  • kevihs on July 17, 2011, 20:28 GMT

    LOL@Julian Walter...oops mycooment wasn supposed to come out till nex month

  • on July 17, 2011, 20:27 GMT

    Julian we will see who will play better........as for england they even lost to ireland & bangladesh so stop making comments like they r world champions........on the other hand we indians r world champs nd we dont need to prove that to anyone....and for the test series look out the no 1 team is coming fast!!!!!

  • Lallubhai on July 17, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    Andy Hurry ,' Never hurry a curry , there too good to hurry '.(don't jump to conclusions Mr)

  • ShilajitBava on July 17, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    @Julian and Yev! Wait and watch, U'll eat Ur words!

  • rahulcricket007 on July 17, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    @julian walter .remember ur words what u said .after the completion of this series u would be praising indian team for excellent show . india will definitely beat this overrated english side by 2-1.

  • Yevghenny on July 17, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    Somerset are a good county side, not an average one. They were finalists in the 20 over/40 over tournaments, and took the county championship to the final day last season. They are an excellent one day side, and are producing exciting prospects like Buttler.

  • on July 17, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    Somerset are an average county team at best, bar Strauss the batting is nothing realy to write home about. World Class (No 1 team in the world) bowling should be able to bowl teams out anywhere in the world. Methinks India's no.1 slot might just slip after the first two tests. Forget about the other batsmen, Sehwag is the biggest loss and he is the reason India are number 1 now. Without the platform the miraculous middle order won't get going for the first two tests. The other three might be a fading glory now, T, D and L. Tremlett and Bresnan will take the Lion share of the wickets Swanny will snaffle the tail and the ICC ranking will be made a mockery of........ SL will have played better by the end of this summer!

  • CricketChat on July 17, 2011, 19:44 GMT

    It is obvious Indians didn't want to stretch themselves too much or give away their capabilities too much before 1st Test. However, you expect a lot more from someone like Sreesanth or Mishra, fighting for a place in the XI. Former world No.1 team like WI would crush small opponents in first class matches on the tour. You expect something along those lines from current No.1, but they were a total disappointment.

  • Vipulalways on July 17, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    positives from indian point of view are 1.Raina played superbly2.they didn't exposed their frontline bowlers.

  • on July 17, 2011, 19:29 GMT

    Everyone knows that India is a slow starter... They'll bounce back. All in all, well played Somerset!

  • on July 17, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    Maybe somerset could take the place of West indies (smile)? Well done somerset you all betted well and have shown guts..

  • dhakaWarriorzzz on July 17, 2011, 19:04 GMT

    arul suppiah was just awesome.This malaysian born player just showed his class and he again proved that a team cant be superior because of its name. India need to perform well or they will be whitewash by mighty england.

  • Ram_UK on July 17, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    These practice matches counts for nothing when either teams takes the field in Lords on Sunday. It might give false sense confidence to home side going into the test match. If people believe that somerset have scared Indians then they are mistaken. Even if Indians bulldozed somerset in 2days British media and ex-players would just brushed it a side saying its just a domestic match. Traditionally Indians are slow starters and once juggernaut picks-up the pace then its quite next to impossible to stop them as Aussies and S Africans found out over last few years.

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    the quality of the 'meal' is decided by the 'main course' and not the 'appetisers'... Strauss & his team would be well advised to be aware of that... and if they believe McGlashan, it could well be a reverse of what is said here, ie advantage India, not England...

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    What a waste of time! If India does this to England when they tour here, we know what the English media would have written about it. And when they do this, they are just "preparing" the home team for the test! Wow, nowdays even the home team needs preparations from the practice matches.. Says a lot about the character of this English side, and how wary they are for this Indian team.

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    bowling was taken part coz zaheer never bowled according to his strength well he's not a fool 2 let strauss know strengths of zaheer...nd neither ishant played nor harbhajan....huh engllish people india will crush you nd we will win the series 3-0.......

  • Deepfreezed on July 17, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    Indian Fans: don't throw rocks at other people when you live in a glass house.

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    Nothing short of embarrassing. Hope its the kick in the pants that India needs badly.

  • sweetspot on July 17, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    This is the Somerset coach happy about having bullied the #1 Test team in the world? Well if it makes them happy, so be it. Dhoni will be generous enough to let them enjoy this great moment in Somerset cricket.

  • Yevghenny on July 17, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    Just got back, great day of cricket. Wonderful stuff from Trego and Strauss. India, if that's the best bowling you've got you're in for a long tour

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  • Yevghenny on July 17, 2011, 18:22 GMT

    Just got back, great day of cricket. Wonderful stuff from Trego and Strauss. India, if that's the best bowling you've got you're in for a long tour

  • sweetspot on July 17, 2011, 18:25 GMT

    This is the Somerset coach happy about having bullied the #1 Test team in the world? Well if it makes them happy, so be it. Dhoni will be generous enough to let them enjoy this great moment in Somerset cricket.

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    Nothing short of embarrassing. Hope its the kick in the pants that India needs badly.

  • Deepfreezed on July 17, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    Indian Fans: don't throw rocks at other people when you live in a glass house.

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:33 GMT

    bowling was taken part coz zaheer never bowled according to his strength well he's not a fool 2 let strauss know strengths of zaheer...nd neither ishant played nor harbhajan....huh engllish people india will crush you nd we will win the series 3-0.......

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:39 GMT

    What a waste of time! If India does this to England when they tour here, we know what the English media would have written about it. And when they do this, they are just "preparing" the home team for the test! Wow, nowdays even the home team needs preparations from the practice matches.. Says a lot about the character of this English side, and how wary they are for this Indian team.

  • on July 17, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    the quality of the 'meal' is decided by the 'main course' and not the 'appetisers'... Strauss & his team would be well advised to be aware of that... and if they believe McGlashan, it could well be a reverse of what is said here, ie advantage India, not England...

  • Ram_UK on July 17, 2011, 18:59 GMT

    These practice matches counts for nothing when either teams takes the field in Lords on Sunday. It might give false sense confidence to home side going into the test match. If people believe that somerset have scared Indians then they are mistaken. Even if Indians bulldozed somerset in 2days British media and ex-players would just brushed it a side saying its just a domestic match. Traditionally Indians are slow starters and once juggernaut picks-up the pace then its quite next to impossible to stop them as Aussies and S Africans found out over last few years.

  • dhakaWarriorzzz on July 17, 2011, 19:04 GMT

    arul suppiah was just awesome.This malaysian born player just showed his class and he again proved that a team cant be superior because of its name. India need to perform well or they will be whitewash by mighty england.

  • on July 17, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    Maybe somerset could take the place of West indies (smile)? Well done somerset you all betted well and have shown guts..