England v India, 1st npower Test, Lord's, 5th day July 25, 2011

What could go wrong, went wrong - Dhoni

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So who's to blame for India's defeat? MS Dhoni, for putting England in to bat? India's senior batsmen, for playing shots that, to the distant eye, seemed unnecessary? Harbhajan Singh, for yet again failing to have an impact on a match? Or even the under-preparedness of the India players, most of whom were struggling to come to terms with conditions at the practice match in Somerset?

Dhoni himself blamed the loss of Zaheer Khan, his strike bowler, to a hamstring injury on the first afternoon. He blamed the absence of a third fast bowler to assist Ishant Sharma and Praveen Kumar. He blamed a surface that did not assist turn on the first two days and relegated his lead spinner Harbhajan to playing the role of a sandbag for Kevin Pietersen in the first innings. He blamed the circumstances that forced the batting order to be completely reshuffled in the second innings.

"Most of the things that could have gone wrong in the game went wrong. It was tough for both the bowlers and the batsmen," Dhoni said with a resigned look at the media conference. The turning point in the Test came on the first afternoon, when Zaheer stopped mid-stride and then walked off to the dressing room with a hamstring injury. It was a bad setback for Zaheer, who was starting to dominate the England batsmen and had dismissed openers Andrew Strauss and Alastair Cook.

England's confidence rose and Pietersen rode roughshod over an Indian bowling attack comprising two fast bowlers who were playing their maiden Test in England, and a spinner who had been rendered impotent by the conditions.

"It became quite tough for us after losing Zaheer Khan on the first day," Dhoni said. "It was very difficult to bowl with three bowlers. The pitch did not take too much turn on the first two days and we did not have too many options. So it was quite difficult in terms of resources."

Praveen and Ishant toiled hard in Zaheer's absence, and improved as the game went on. Praveen recovered from first-morning-Lord's nerves to bounce back with controlled swing and bag a maiden five-for in the first innings, and Ishant injected a renewed sense of purpose into India with an energetic spell of seam bowling on the fourth morning. India missed out on a third seamer, though, which Dhoni said made all the difference. "We just needed that one extra bowler and things could have been different but it is something that you can't really do anything about as injuries happen."

Harbhajan, India's most experienced bowler, wore a deflated look for most of the Test and his match figures of 56-4-218-1 only raised questions about his position as lead spinner. Dhoni, though, did not appear too bothered. "I saw a lot of improvement [in Harbhajan]. He bowled a lot slower in this game. It was slightly tough on him, especially when Pietersen was set and began going after him. There was no turn to deceive the batsman. But I was really impressed with the pace at which Harbhajan bowled. As the series progresses, it will be really interesting to see him bowl at some of the venues that are known to assist spin."

With their bowling in a shambles, India's chances of escaping the first Test with a draw hinged exclusively on their vaunted batting order. No batsman, barring Rahul Dravid, lasted long enough in the first innings. On the last morning, India were 378 runs adrift of the huge target set by England. In the absence of Virender Sehwag, a victory was unimaginable. A draw, though, was possible, especially in conditions that were tough but not unplayable.

Yet the highest partnership in the second innings was 75 runs, between Dravid and VVS Laxman for the second wicket, closely followed by the 60-run alliance between Dhoni and Suresh Raina for the sixth wicket. While England had three 100-plus stands in the match, India had none. Dhoni defended his batsmen, pointing to the fact that an injury to Gautam Gambhir and Sachin Tendulkar's illness had forced a reshuffle in the batting order.

"Yes, we could have done with one more partnership from the top-order batsmen. But it was tough because most of our batsmen were batting in slots different to their original number. Rahul opened, Sachin batted at a different number, Gautam batted at a different number. That also added pressure."

The India batsmen also struggled to come to terms with the inconsistent bounce, he said. "As the Test progressed, what we saw was variable bounce, which meant we couldn't really leave deliveries on length saying it was a three-quarter length delivery and would go over the stumps. So, more often than not, we were forced to play deliveries and we chased them."

Comparing the current Lord's track to what he encountered on India's tour in 2007, when he helped save the first Test for India with an unbeaten half-century, Dhoni claimed the bounce was more even four years ago. "This time there were many occasions when the ball did not comfortably travel to the keeper so the variable bounce did have an impact."

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • rugg on July 28, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    To be honest the batting is what cost India, as in both innings India couldn't get past 400. To defeat any top cricketing nation you need to score 400 plus in the first innings or 400 plus in the second innings to settle for a draw. But neither scenarios happened so India lost. The bowling department has never beed a major strength for India, its the batting which is the key. But take no credit away from England as they played superbly and deserved to win.

  • VEXXZ on July 27, 2011, 23:44 GMT

    Batting woes will continue with Sehwag if and when he return due to no match practice . You cannot warm up in a test match when playing against any of the top 4 teams in the world today . It just won't work .

  • miketurney on July 27, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    India are heading the same way as the Aussies- Where will they be in 2 years with no Dravid ,Tendulkar and Laxman? The Aussies lost several world class players in one go and never recovered. an old team past its sell by date. England has a solid core of players for the next 5 years

  • on July 27, 2011, 15:39 GMT

    For folks who want Mukund to be dropped, then as well drop Raina. He scored a zero in the first innings. Ridiculous !!! If there is one batsman who can be dropped because of performance in this one game alone, it has to be Dhoni. We lost the match because of our bowling - not our batsmen. From 62/5, we let them get another 220 runs. That and Dhoni's wicketkeeping. Our batting is fine.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 27, 2011, 14:01 GMT

    @5wombats, just think about ENG without Broad in first innings. Hence I said "good bowling from India" without Zaheer. Dude Ishant and PK are young and absolutely inexperienced bowlers for test itself. Experienced ENG batsmen crumbled down in Ishant's (22 years old) bowling in second innings at their home pitch, why? I donno what went wrong after lunch. May be matter of confidence again. Regarding Somerset match Strauss's performance says everything. Why do you think other ENG batsmen failed in first innings? Peterson was the real man though he was very lucky on that day. Yes 5th day was disappointing because VVS, RD and MSD played lay shots and lost the chance of drawing or winning (if played with full abilities). Tough to handle with so many confusions, hurdles and injuries with ZERO practice. I rate this handicapped Indian team's performance as far far better when compared to ENG's when they toured India with full strength last time.

  • on July 27, 2011, 13:57 GMT

    @alexk - Paul Valthaty for the test squad? You have got to be kidding me.

    T20 or even ODIs you might have a case, but for the test squad? lol..

  • on July 27, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    Harbhajan, India's most experienced bowler, wore a deflated look for most of the Test and his match figures of 56-4-218-1.................EGGJACTLY...I meant exactly....That stat alone should indicate to Dhoni that Harbhajan is not an asset anymore but a liability now days. Someone rightly pointed out that Yuvraj would have taken at least 3 wickets if he had bowled even 30 overs in the whole test....And with the kind of attitude and spirit Yuvraj has he may have score at least 60 odd runs in both innings. Yuvraj may be weak against swing bowlingbut if he survives initial few overs and then clicks...a quick century is on the cards. Harbhajan currently provides no value either in bowling nor in batting. Remove Mukund ( just becos he may not handle pressure since he is a rookie) and remove bhajji. Get in an extra bowler and Yuvi . Take a risk and ask Dhoni or Yuvi to open.

  • on July 27, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    India will bounceback,I have no doubt. H/ever I'll like to suggest the foll. 1.India shouldn't force the recovery prog. of Z K, Let him be fit for the decisive 3rd test. 2.M Patel is the man to replace ZK. He gets very close to the stumps, & bowls wicket to wicket, s/thing like McGrath. He will get swing & will be more than useful in this Indian attack.3. Yuvraj is a more than useful all rounder. His bowling can take of the likes of Pieterson & maybe some others. He will give some runs. Even though Swann will get him. Swann & Z Khan r great bowlers to lefties.

  • WTEH on July 27, 2011, 12:59 GMT

    Well Dhoni should realize it is the batsmen who failed not the bowlers. If the batsmen cannot bat beyond 350, there is no chance of winning the match.

  • on July 27, 2011, 12:47 GMT

    There are many factors that contributed.

    If Dhoni suspected lack of full fitness of Zaheer there was little logic in opting to bowl first, especially when you are team that is supposed to be a strong batting line up. Some will say overcast conditions pointed to a bowl first choice. England these days is mostly cloudy. It looked a timid decision to me and I was disappointed at the toss itself.

    Injuries and illness can be unavoidable, but how about application. What I saw (second innings only) Rahul's dismissal shot was too tentative. Sachin was batting like a rabbit all the time. LBW, dropped catch were damning evidence. At 40, in big match situation, he has not learned how to leave his nerves in the dressing room. VVS shot was prodigal in view of the match situation. Harbhajan did not seem to be bothered. The way he was chewing gum I knew he was nervous inside; his high heave was out of context and totally unpardonable.

    It looked the team had not decided whether to chase or defend

  • rugg on July 28, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    To be honest the batting is what cost India, as in both innings India couldn't get past 400. To defeat any top cricketing nation you need to score 400 plus in the first innings or 400 plus in the second innings to settle for a draw. But neither scenarios happened so India lost. The bowling department has never beed a major strength for India, its the batting which is the key. But take no credit away from England as they played superbly and deserved to win.

  • VEXXZ on July 27, 2011, 23:44 GMT

    Batting woes will continue with Sehwag if and when he return due to no match practice . You cannot warm up in a test match when playing against any of the top 4 teams in the world today . It just won't work .

  • miketurney on July 27, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    India are heading the same way as the Aussies- Where will they be in 2 years with no Dravid ,Tendulkar and Laxman? The Aussies lost several world class players in one go and never recovered. an old team past its sell by date. England has a solid core of players for the next 5 years

  • on July 27, 2011, 15:39 GMT

    For folks who want Mukund to be dropped, then as well drop Raina. He scored a zero in the first innings. Ridiculous !!! If there is one batsman who can be dropped because of performance in this one game alone, it has to be Dhoni. We lost the match because of our bowling - not our batsmen. From 62/5, we let them get another 220 runs. That and Dhoni's wicketkeeping. Our batting is fine.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 27, 2011, 14:01 GMT

    @5wombats, just think about ENG without Broad in first innings. Hence I said "good bowling from India" without Zaheer. Dude Ishant and PK are young and absolutely inexperienced bowlers for test itself. Experienced ENG batsmen crumbled down in Ishant's (22 years old) bowling in second innings at their home pitch, why? I donno what went wrong after lunch. May be matter of confidence again. Regarding Somerset match Strauss's performance says everything. Why do you think other ENG batsmen failed in first innings? Peterson was the real man though he was very lucky on that day. Yes 5th day was disappointing because VVS, RD and MSD played lay shots and lost the chance of drawing or winning (if played with full abilities). Tough to handle with so many confusions, hurdles and injuries with ZERO practice. I rate this handicapped Indian team's performance as far far better when compared to ENG's when they toured India with full strength last time.

  • on July 27, 2011, 13:57 GMT

    @alexk - Paul Valthaty for the test squad? You have got to be kidding me.

    T20 or even ODIs you might have a case, but for the test squad? lol..

  • on July 27, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    Harbhajan, India's most experienced bowler, wore a deflated look for most of the Test and his match figures of 56-4-218-1.................EGGJACTLY...I meant exactly....That stat alone should indicate to Dhoni that Harbhajan is not an asset anymore but a liability now days. Someone rightly pointed out that Yuvraj would have taken at least 3 wickets if he had bowled even 30 overs in the whole test....And with the kind of attitude and spirit Yuvraj has he may have score at least 60 odd runs in both innings. Yuvraj may be weak against swing bowlingbut if he survives initial few overs and then clicks...a quick century is on the cards. Harbhajan currently provides no value either in bowling nor in batting. Remove Mukund ( just becos he may not handle pressure since he is a rookie) and remove bhajji. Get in an extra bowler and Yuvi . Take a risk and ask Dhoni or Yuvi to open.

  • on July 27, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    India will bounceback,I have no doubt. H/ever I'll like to suggest the foll. 1.India shouldn't force the recovery prog. of Z K, Let him be fit for the decisive 3rd test. 2.M Patel is the man to replace ZK. He gets very close to the stumps, & bowls wicket to wicket, s/thing like McGrath. He will get swing & will be more than useful in this Indian attack.3. Yuvraj is a more than useful all rounder. His bowling can take of the likes of Pieterson & maybe some others. He will give some runs. Even though Swann will get him. Swann & Z Khan r great bowlers to lefties.

  • WTEH on July 27, 2011, 12:59 GMT

    Well Dhoni should realize it is the batsmen who failed not the bowlers. If the batsmen cannot bat beyond 350, there is no chance of winning the match.

  • on July 27, 2011, 12:47 GMT

    There are many factors that contributed.

    If Dhoni suspected lack of full fitness of Zaheer there was little logic in opting to bowl first, especially when you are team that is supposed to be a strong batting line up. Some will say overcast conditions pointed to a bowl first choice. England these days is mostly cloudy. It looked a timid decision to me and I was disappointed at the toss itself.

    Injuries and illness can be unavoidable, but how about application. What I saw (second innings only) Rahul's dismissal shot was too tentative. Sachin was batting like a rabbit all the time. LBW, dropped catch were damning evidence. At 40, in big match situation, he has not learned how to leave his nerves in the dressing room. VVS shot was prodigal in view of the match situation. Harbhajan did not seem to be bothered. The way he was chewing gum I knew he was nervous inside; his high heave was out of context and totally unpardonable.

    It looked the team had not decided whether to chase or defend

  • on July 27, 2011, 12:46 GMT

    Love it, all the excuses in the world will not hide the fact that India were second best by a long long way...

    3-0 Eng with ease

  • KAIRAVA on July 27, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Paul Valthaty has a 1st class avg. of 39 ????? What a joke !! When did Valthaty make his 1st class debut ?? Dude, Valthaty has never played a 1st class match till date and also has appeared in just 1 List A match in his career so far. There is a good reason why Valthaty was not considered in tests, so get your facts correct.

  • on July 27, 2011, 12:00 GMT

    i think indian team loses his faith from his players thats why dhoni says these things.

  • on July 27, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    See the past vs westindies we need just 86 runs in 16 over but dhoni stopped the match then it will ends in a draw no other No.1 team wont do like this . .They had no confidence vs england in the 1st test . .In 2nd innings we took 5 wickets for 67 . .then board and prior played perfectly . .see their face they facing the ball with full confidence . .but we are struggling against england pacers . .In a sage we know that we cant win atleast play for a draw . .but our batsmens played some unusable shots and lost their wickets . .india have to in mishra,sreesanth in palce of harbajan and praveen kumar . .

  • on July 27, 2011, 11:46 GMT

    Dhoni could have done better by adding England's performance to all those factors. And whats the point of a test match if you are not tested? England took atleast 13 wickets on the last day. What Dhoni does not realize is, India had alot of luck on their side, yet still managed to loose on the last day. There is room for improvement, not excuses.

  • SouthPaw on July 27, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    What is wrong with the media-named "Captain Cool"? - Zaheer, has always had fitness problems. - India went into the opening (therefore, important) test match with just 4 bowlers - Harbhajan is a "has-been". While he couldn't get turn in both innings, Swann got almost 50 degree turn.

    Just change the team composition to 5 batsmen, Dhoni, 5 bowlers and see the difference!

  • IndianSupporterForever on July 27, 2011, 11:26 GMT

    India just had one bad game, there's no denying in that. It can be attributed more to the unwell of some key Indian players rather than the English performance. When you're playing against India, never forget that the series never over until it is over. However, England never was comfortable in playing in India and they've suffered some serious white washes even in the recent yrs which they should not forget.

  • on July 27, 2011, 11:08 GMT

    So INdia had to bat on an up and down pitch and England got to bat on a belter ? Is Dhoni serious ? Fine, injuries conspired against India. But surely more than one batsman could have got a century and other than a couple of spells from Praveen and Ishant, the bowling was pedestrian. And the less said about the fielding the better. There is no doubt India can fight back just through mercurial performances like they have done before, but the first step towards consistency is to acknowledge where you went wrong.

  • psychicsaint on July 27, 2011, 10:46 GMT

    i have a question to all those who are blaming the indian team for the loss... why was no one bothered when dhoni clearly warned about player fatigue just after the world cup finished.. this indian team plays more cricket than any other team in the world... who should be blamed for that? if that choice is the players' then why do we have a board to control them!! come on guys.. we do not have 11 robots who can play cricket 300 days a year.. just look at the schedule for this test series.. 4 tests with practice matches with just a few days gap in between... i think this indian team has been doing an incredible job for the last few years despite the tight schedule.. fitness indeed will be a problem to any team that plays as much cricket as india does... hope everyone keeps that in mind before pointing fingers at zaheer and others..

  • on July 27, 2011, 10:32 GMT

    it will be v.hard for india to bounce back against UK's strong cricketers, untill they work hard in the remaining tests.

  • Satyam_max on July 27, 2011, 9:39 GMT

    Now the question is how do India go about playing the next three test matches , in the light of the fact that Sehwag and Zaheer might not be available (at least for the second test) I might sound foolish , but here are my suggestions -

    1) Drop Mukund . Let Dravid open . Bring in Yuvraj . Two things here . He can be handy with his left arm spin apart from strengthening the middle order . Inidan batsmen must fire to make sure that at least they don't lose the test match .

    2) Sreesanth should be given a chance considering the English conditions . Hopefully his outswinger works .

    3) Drop Bhajji . Let Mishra do the spinner's duty . A leg spinner is always a better attacking option compared to an offie who is struggling with form .

  • chin-music on July 27, 2011, 9:20 GMT

    A bit disillusioned with Dhoni - I had always seen him as one of the rare Indian cricketers who had the self confidence to call a spade a spade. Not this time though - maybe the article should have been titled "every excuse that could be made, was made"

  • Marcio on July 27, 2011, 9:10 GMT

    Finding excuses and fall guys (or fall umpires) is a bad trait in the Indian cricket team. Dhoni needs to take a good long hard look at himself and the team. One thing I like about Ricky Ponting (as an Aussie)... even though he is not a great captain, he never blames anyone when Australia loses, no matter what the circumstances - be it dodgy pitches, bad umpiring or freakish bad luck. All these things go in cycles, and everyone knows it.

  • Alexk400 on July 27, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    I can't believe you people think india can win second test. India won't even draw the test. England win 2nd Test also. I have seen many times the wanted indian line up chokes when put under pressure. England worked out all scoring options of openers and they will block them to make openers make false shot. This wanted batting line up play well when the ball is old and no pressure. if india can do well if they have good opening. Gambhir will fail and there by start the procession. I started to think even sehwag can't help the team that do not believe in themself to win. i may sound negative but it is the reality. India play 8 batsman and should try to draw second test. Play 5 bowlers in 3rd test when zaheer is back.

  • Alexk400 on July 27, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    India lost not because of mukund. It is because of gambhir. All indian players can b worked out if sehwag is not there. Sehwag just mere presence masks and shield other players from opposition planning. if you go by average special talent will be missed. Sahcin has god father. You either have to have patel or sharma to picked immediately in india. For me paul valthaty is ideal replacement for sehwag even though his average is low..what india need is attacking opener. There is none in indian domestic who is as talented as paul valthaty. if he clickes in one in 3 game india will win. England worked out mukund weakness and gambhir weakness. By playing dravid open india is sacrificing big. if people like conservative opening then bring jaffer. All young opners in india are not physically strong enough for bouncing ball. India will lose second test simply because there is nothing in the tank. India need to counter attack but they do not have tools to do it. Cupboard is empty.

  • 5wombats on July 27, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    The Facebook writer who wrote "First of all let me start up by saying I was disappointed in the condition of the lords play ground" and "I do not have any problem with the Indian batting" - YOU'RE JOKING - RIGHT? So - you are saying that india lost because of the condition of the ground? I've seen some absolute gems on here over the past year or so - but this one is MIND-NUMBING. Lords was PERFECT, absolutely PERFECT throughout the match - always is, always will be. Friend - whoever you are; no one can take comments like that seriously. As for the batting - well it was poor indian batting that cost india the match, especially on Day 5. Simple as that. If you do not have a problem - well - lucky you.

  • on July 27, 2011, 8:31 GMT

    Whatever changes MS is plannning to make but one change that he definitely need to make it replaces Bhajji with anyone in the world....play with 10 men instead of 11 but dont play Bhajji. I fail to understand how we consider him the premier spinner of India while every spinner that I have watched bowling (including part timers) bowl better than him. He may bowl well sometimes but most often he bowls poorly. Why is Mishra not given a chance? I am sure that for 200 runs he would have got least 5 wickets. Bhajji is the only bowler in the world who can go for 200 runs without wickets. And dont blame the pitch because Swann was bowling on the same pitch and we all saw his quality. Players like Bhajji would cost India this series.

  • hqureshi78 on July 27, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    India shouldn't surprise too much. They are ordinary team on AU, NZ and SA pitches. I bet it will be same result in next matches. Good that they have come out from the forte. Peace guys! :)

  • on July 27, 2011, 8:14 GMT

    lame excuses always. why play IPL when you so much problems.

  • on July 27, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    Bring Yuvraj,mishra munaf or sreeshant take out Dhoni,Tendulkar, Bhajji (they are here because dhoni's friends) also think rayudu aswhin as well this is not cinema you can't keep playing after 35 yrs old(in cinema like you can be a hero after you have grand son's) there 1000's of Indians there looking for opportunity it's shame dhoni thinks he is very good but the luck and other teams poor performance is the reason india's no.1 and we all know we couldn't win in WI even though we have good players give the captaincy to Ghambir play like tiger whether you win or loose show your bravery

  • on July 27, 2011, 7:54 GMT

    these things (injuries) happen sometimes in cricket ......the most important thing is how well they bounce back after this loss.......and which i am sure they will ....

  • mysecretme on July 27, 2011, 7:28 GMT

    To break into this Indian team, one needs a first class average of somewhere near 45. Valthaty has a first class average of 39. He will get his chance if he corrects this. Only exceptions have been Tendulkar and the keepers as far as I can remember. In my opinion Mukund has done his job so far, but his weakness has been spotted. India would be better off if Sehwag joins in, but they can even do with pushing Dravid to open and accommodating Yuvi (unless Mukund demonstrates in practice that this weakness is gone).

  • on July 27, 2011, 6:22 GMT

    I suggest all the Indian fans not to loose heart. India will surely bounce back strongly enough to beat India.

  • cricket-fan2011 on July 27, 2011, 6:22 GMT

    Batting is the strength of indian team. India did not play well specially batting even English team and Billy Bowden gave them a number of opportunities to draw this match at least. Otherwise Mr. Cool would have gone his hotel room before tea (like he said regarding umpiring in 1st test vs WI).

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 27, 2011, 5:47 GMT

    Though he performed badly I always support Dhoni for his positive nature. He always tries to speak positively and importantly he never tries to put pressure either on his own players or other teams. Positive energy is important for a team to perform. He never gives big statements. I saw many teams once they are desperate to win they start giving big statements example is ENG currently. In the media the way he spoke clearly says that he didn't want to let his team down in hard times.

  • Chinny on July 27, 2011, 5:46 GMT

    What are you guys talking about? India isn't number one? Rankings doesn't tell you anything...

  • knpradeep77 on July 27, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    9 wickets could not hold 90 odd overs??? shame on you the no.1 ranked team!

    hope they will come back, and it is a regular scene i remember from the early 90s that india start with a defeat or hard fought draw, but improving later on

  • on July 27, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    because of lag of space i could not finish my comments: we do not have quality all rounders like Kapil, abid, surti, durrani, nadkarni(to some extent), mankad, etc. who can consistantly perform in that role, yuvi was ok but fell asleep a coupla years ago and may have woken up a coupla times since, but, the point is consistant performers.

  • on July 27, 2011, 4:22 GMT

    First of all let me start up by saying I was disappointed in the condition of the lords play ground, specially first 2 days, the pitch was dry but rest of the field was not up to par when you see many catches the first couple days were dropped by closeup fielders/keeper since in those positions the initial reaction is very crucial. Even the run up for the bowlers was not up to par where bowlers were not getting proper footing which i believe was responsible for Zaheer's injury(a condition which causes many injuries in all sports). I do not have any problem with the Indian batting, but, a bit of a problem in selections of bowlers(what have you done for be lately), even if one is the greatest in his/her craft they need to start in lower levels before returning to the topmost level of a sport(from extended breaks or injuries) that is the part of conditioning. The major part cause is quality all rounders. We do not have that there was on one to step into the shoes of fine test grade player

  • SachinLara1 on July 27, 2011, 4:14 GMT

    @Alexk400: do u know haw many first class matches he played..

  • Alexk400 on July 27, 2011, 3:54 GMT

    India should have picked Paul valthaty in place of sehwag slot. Both aggressive. Both risky players. Paul valthaty can click more than sehwag. Even though i am sehwag fan , i think Paul valthaty has a role in indian team. He was ignored because of this some convoluted logic.

  • on July 27, 2011, 3:14 GMT

    India failed against england in the first test.The main reasons is that there was no sehwag.if we look into the past we can see that the openers had a given a good start to the team and the middle order had a little pressure.but that was not the condition in lords.the openers failed and the middle order collapsed.Sehwag is a batsman who takes the pressure away from the middle order by his natural way of attacking the bowlers.If we look into the last test that india played against west indies we can see that even though the victory was possible nobody tried for it.But if there was sehwag he would have surely gone for it.So the main reason for india's failure was sehwag's missing.injury to zaheer khan was also a problem

  • on July 27, 2011, 2:50 GMT

    the attitude shown by the indian team on the first day, and ms coming in to bowl, i think it will be a whitewash. Sachin should play his normal game instead of trying to score a century.

  • KAIRAVA on July 27, 2011, 2:36 GMT

    The No. 1 team (INDIA) with 9 wickets remaining going into the final day should have either won or drew the test match but certainly not lose it. When a No. 7 ranked team (WEST INDIES) facing a No. 1 ranked team (INDIA) can draw a test going with just 4 wickets standing on the final day of a test (Dominica test), much more is expected from INDIA.

  • Sanj747 on July 27, 2011, 2:29 GMT

    Phoenixsteve am wit you mate on the No 1 ranking. It's just hogwash.

  • kevihs on July 27, 2011, 1:03 GMT

    India played bad.I'm not even going to begin to make excuses.I mean bad is bad,there always are reasons for that.The only thing they are good for is helping some of us Indian fans sleep better at night(and you guys hold on to those reasons for dear life). I expect India to be a totally different side come Trent Bridge. I remember the comments from the SA supporters after the 1st test in the last tour to SA. HA. But what tickles me to death is how good the Eng supporters think their players are. Before the series started i remember reading about how Strauss and some other Eng players thought theirs is by far THE best side in the world.I ignored these,thinking them to be media hype and out of context quotes. But since my arrival here, I have come to realise that most Eng supporters see their present team on par with the Aus & WestInd sides during their peak. I mean talk about delusions of grandeur. HA.

  • mysecretme on July 27, 2011, 0:14 GMT

    I have to bring up this issue again as it was not posted before for some reason. Everybody seems to think that Billy Bowdens decision in Stuart Broad's over against Sachin was wrong. What you don't program for is the fact that Sachin was standing outside his crease "and" the ball hit above or on his knee roll on his front foot. It would've comfortably sailed over the stumps. You could've seen yourself when Sachin left a similar ball in the same over. The DRS system seems to have a huge problem with the batsmans position. If the batsman is out of the crease, the ball has to travel a larger distance and I think DRS does not address this issue. Broad and Tremlett will never get an lbw with length balls because they will sail over the stumps. Its different with Anderson- he skids the ball unlike these two. Also, why Sree ahead of munaf? Praveen and Ishant are taking wickets. We need is a bowler to block one end up. If the next pitch looks like lords, just play 4 pacers and forget spin.

  • on July 26, 2011, 23:53 GMT

    If indian players got injured, what does that has to do with England... If India had win that match everyone would have been dissing the English team.Why they acting not prepared when jus over a week or so they were playing WI with their so-called second string team,but I still saw eight of their players who played against WI is currently in the team ,only those other three that came in and all three got sick or injured.luckily England won otherwise if it had drawn ,dhoni would have said the rain is the factor for his team not achieving the win.

  • Patchmaster on July 26, 2011, 23:45 GMT

    A bigger man would accept defeat gracefully, rather than make excuses for his team getting thrashed.

  • on July 26, 2011, 23:20 GMT

    I realised everytime a catch is dropped on dravid he ending up making a century...Those last two centuries he had dropped catches,so make sure u hold those catches from dravid cause i sure he wont get pass twenty then.Is this the full strength Indian Team?Sure it is.WI had they full strength ,dont worry about gayle , any more players and the Wicb Issues but they didnt complain all along even thou they were missing a strike batsman.

  • 5wombats on July 26, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    @kumarcoolbuddy; your comments continue to confound reason; "Everyone knows that Lord's pitch is always tricky to understand"...WHAT!!! Lords is one of the truest pitches in the world - EVERYONE knows this, except you, apparently. "It's not reasonable to talk about team's ability just because India lost this test match". WHY NOT?? Teams which lack ability lose games of cricket - not sure? ask Australia or Bangladesh. "I really felt India performed badly only on 5th day". Really? India set themselves up to lose on the 5th day through very bad batting in their first Innings on Day 3. "Bhajji was the only drawback in this this test match. His bowling was not at all helpful" - He wasn't the only drawback!! What about the drawback that Laxman, Dravid and Tendulkar only scored 251 runs between them in their 6 Innings when Trott & Pietersen scored 272 in 2 Innings? Friend - you are looking for excuses in all the wrong places.

  • Crazy_Cricket_Fan on July 26, 2011, 22:33 GMT

    there is nothing to say after reading 390+ comments :-)))

  • phoenixsteve on July 26, 2011, 22:27 GMT

    I've just spent the past hour reading comments and several points keep emerging & need to be replied to! !) India were unlucky!.... Yes they were unlucky that Khan got injured but should have been good enough or they shouldn't be playing 4 bowlers! 2) India are slow starters! Probably true - I reckon they might need another 3 Tests to warm up! I bet the Aussies are going to wallop them too! 3) Tendulkar was "injured"! Having a viral infection is hardly an injury. They probably should have said that "Tendulkar doesn't have the stomach to face the England attack today." 4) Indian fans are in DENIAL! I watched every ball in every session & India only turned up briefly in Englands second innings when it was too late! 5) This ridiculous obsession with the number1 ranking? It's meaningless - as home advantage is so huge. There's little to choose between Aus, England, India, Pak and SA at test level. So when India lose this stupid ranking please don't cry about it Indian fans - it's B.S.!!!

  • Rupert147 on July 26, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    Ravi.99 With respect the Indian supporters can willingly cling to old stats from the past (which includes ODI stats despite this being a Test series) but this is 2011 and India worryingly have the same players which they proudly displayed a decade ago. England defeated an Indian side who looked both underdone and battered to submission at the same time at Lords. England's 4th string bowler is the giant Chris Tremlett who remains a handful while India's 4th option is their keeper MS Dhoni. Obviously the injury to Zaheer played a part but that boils down to preparation and time bowling in this vast arena over anything else. Make excuses for your admittedly glamourous team if you like but hard work will prevail over excuses or else a severe drubbing awaits. If you dont see it coming then fine but at least admit your team were very much 2nd best of only 2 teams who were playing at the home of cricket, that in itself is a start.

  • saadfarrukh1 on July 26, 2011, 21:46 GMT

    dhoni is a good caiptan but i hate his excuses.i s=am hoping for england to win this series 4-0 as the indians are very much overonfident and they dont deserve a win

  • on July 26, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    In dealing with Harbhajan, Dhoni should look at how Ganguly handled Kumble when his form was down. He was removed from the spot of first-choice spinner (ironically, it went to Harbhajan) but always part of the squad. That's a good balanced way to keep Harbhajan motivated but still convey the message strongly that he needs to buck up!

  • Ravi.99 on July 26, 2011, 20:46 GMT

    One win doesn't mean Eng is better than India. Playing home conditions will always favour home team. If people start looking at stats from 2001, India vs Eng they played 15 tests( India won 5 , Eng won 2 , Draw:8). Please see the below ODI stats as well before commenting. Comming to 20 - 20, every one in the world knows who are the world no 1.

    India v Englad - One Day International Records (Since 1974) Total Match - 70 India Won - 38 England Won - 30 Tied - 1 No Result - 2

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 26, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    India really need an all-rounder.

  • Apollo_v2 on July 26, 2011, 19:40 GMT

    India got beat - fair and square. Things like Zaheer and Sehwag's injuries are just excuses. Maintaining fitness is a part of cricket, and if a team doesn't ensure that its players are fit for crucial series, it's the team's fault.

    England are a significantly superior side to India at the moment. With Zaheer pretty much out for the next match, India's bowling line up will be: Kumar, Sharma, Bhajji and Shreesanth. None of these bowlers is better than any of the English 4some of Broad, Anderson, Tremlett and Swann. India's batting lineup seems significantly lesser threatening with Sehwag gone. Sure, Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are legends and Gambhir is not to be taken lightly either, but on current form, the likes of Trott, KP, Bell, Strauss, Cook and Prior seem far stronger. And India is nowhere close to England in terms of fielding.

    Seriously, the only way India can win even a single test this series is through a miracle individual performance by someone, in my opinion.

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:35 GMT

    this was a good match, but people need to stop hating on india, i swear when sri lanka came and played and lost, there was like one comment, and second, the indians need to stop praising india like they are a bunch of invincible gods. any team can win a match, it takes something else to bounce back though. If india win the next or lose the next, the result will count, and show if england is the best or india, I dont think india will bounce back once next test is lost or drawn. England have lost in india btw, so dont call them the best test team, even the great australians had problems in india, who had a worse team then. AT least the second test wil be better for india who will be adjusted to these conditions, and full strength eng vs full strength ind will take place. England shuld win, its their own ground for godsake, but if england lose, man, india are better. But neither i feel is number one champion. maybe south africa.

  • RAMKI2404 on July 26, 2011, 19:34 GMT

    I am a big fan of MSD but in lords he dissappointed me and his mistakes and weakness are exposed to the world. Following are the major reason 1. Firstly winning the toss and electing to bowl. 2. Choosing Bajji instead of Mishra. 3. It was pain watching MSD batting in the 1st innings. No effort was made by him to avoid follow-on. I appriciate PK's 17 odd quick runs which helped to avoid follow-on. I prefer Dhoni playing his natural batting in test. If u see his stats he faced 152 balls (103 + 49) and scored 44(28 + 16). I prefer this type of players to score runs as quick as possible b/c he lack technique. Thats were Veeru is missed in indian team. By the time opp. team realises Veeru will do the damage. Strauss would have got scared to declare at 450 If veeru would have been in indian team. 4. Indians all time biggest concern lack of Killer Instinct. I thought we will bundle out eng in the 2nd inngs for 100-125. Overall MSD should take the responsibility of loosing the 1st test.

  • gunjan on July 26, 2011, 19:34 GMT

    England was playing much better throughout the match. No point in making excuses. Unless Indian bowling line-up improves, Ind. will definitely struggle throughout the series, as we know batting has never been a concern for India. Bowling is main difference and the key in who will take this important series.

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    Expecting a white wash,................. England far better team than India, this is the truth............... probably they are the best team in the world now, at least at test arena, and I think Sehwag will be fit after the England tour is finished........lolz.

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:18 GMT

    Lot of Indians there in England ask somebody to dig some spinning pit for Bhaajii... For last two three series Bhajii's bowling was very poor and Amit Misra was too good coz he was getting the wickets from good balls and bhajji got some wickets from batsmen's blunders.

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    sounds like one too many excuses to me!! England have such a strong team at the moment (at test level) and I am not surprised by such a convincing win. There is a long way to go though and I am sure that India will show their worth!! Tendulkar will hit a big score soon I am sure. Come on England!!!!

  • sunil186 on July 26, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    @kumarms_2000 : It is better to make u as non playing captain of India. @Me_A_Gemini : It is good to make u as captain of India, who dont know wat is cricket. If u both are indians i feel ashamed to be born on same soil with u... before making any comment respect ur nation and do it...

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    Right or wrong Dhoni has never been in the business of congratulating the other team or in admitting that India was beaten fair and square. That is his personality and I have come to accept it. As for beating up on Dhoni, I'd say hold the anger off for some time. He's accomplished a lot as a captain and to remove faith in him after 1 (or a few) bad game is not fair. His players did not perform - simple as that. A below average harbhajan and an injured Zaheer against a solid England side - I know which side I'd pick. But I thing I know not to do - is to question this Indian side's ability to bounce back!

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    My friends, winning and loosing is a part of the game, I agree that missing a Zaheer really hurt our chances, but i can blame sachin, the way he went to shell of total defence mode and the way Dhoni was out. I still support team India, hope we will win by 3-1.

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    Thats our problem. We cant control in our emotion .If we questioning about Dhonis captincy than no dout he is the best intellectual n smart captain in recent cricket arena. Many times he prove it but after-all he is normal man like u n me. Not a machine. I m a BD supporter but i m sure India have the capability 2 bounce back with Dhonis efficiency.

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:05 GMT

    Heard about all the comments, i think we have to wait for next matches and see. Before commenting, all of us should think that MSD is not a non playing captain. In that case he should been already out of the team. Just commenting bad with one match should not be fair to the work he has done. Every one has had bad days, even stuard broad has been hammered by yuvi for 6 sixes, that was broad 's bad day. The first position is achieved by doing lot of works. Hailing a person after winning world cup and talking bad when he loses is not spirit. people have to remember even the south africa trip too ... please wait for next matches and analysis... keep quiet

  • on July 26, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    @Me_A_Gemini: so when did England last won a test series against India?

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    @Muhammad Ibrahim: as per ur comment, ".The no1 team in the world has to be no1 in all formats with atleast 2 or 3 comprehensive wins in a series".....but proteas dint make it to the semi of the worldcup, not the number one team in tests and also in t20s....so stop questioning India's ability.....currently India is the no.1 team in tests and will be the no.1 team for the days to come.....

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 26, 2011, 18:56 GMT

    @Victor Mukherjee: You say "the English will be under pressure since their batting is good but not really capable of scoring real fast!"... Well: Morgan, Prior, Pietersen, Swann... need I go on? Much higher strike rates than most of the Indians. On their day they'd happily crush a depleted, tiring Indian bowling attack. Anyway, @ everyone: can Tendulkar still bowl his leg-spin or not? If so, I really don't understand why he wasn't used, instead of speed-man Dhoni... LOL

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:54 GMT

    @Muhammad Ibrahim :" The only team that has the potential to become the best side in the world is SA." if losing first test isnt an excuse, then wat about winning the first test and not repeating in the rest of the matches? India went down to SA in the first test, last december, but came back strongly and leveled the series....so how come SA is the best side in the world? because as per ur comment, "The no1 team in the world has to be no1 in all formats with atleast 2 or 3 comprehensive wins in a series." ...

  • nicudoc on July 26, 2011, 18:50 GMT

    Stop making excuses. india was outplayed a by a better team in all departments!!! Even with a fully fit Zaheer they would have lost. It is a shame that a country of 1 billion people has not been able to produce not even one genuine pace bowler. Indias bowling, or lack therof, will prove to be their undoing

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 26, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    @Master01, I agree with you. I know India lost it and after all end result matters. But if you think optimistically you are right. In first innings they wud have struggled if Broad was not there and we wud have been on top. India played well with limited resources. Only disappointing was Indian batting on 5th day. RD, VVS and Dhoni really disappointed.

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:37 GMT

    Keeping in mind last summer of 2010 India have little chance .England using same ball as 2010 which was not used against srilanka because 2011 duke ball did not swing.Apart from dravid no indian player technically good enough to play quality swing and seam.Qualilty of India seamers is not good enough.they need to mishra in place of bhaji singh and R P singh back in the team at the cost of world slowest seamer praveen.English seamers are best when playing at home.I say ENGLAN will win this series 3-0 .

  • tappee74 on July 26, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    I looked at most of the game.The result is clear,a better side won .It should be noted that Dhoni was disadvantaged of Zaheer, Gambir and Shewag.England deligently made maximum use of their absence and never released the pressure.I think VVS and Tendulkar was a bit dissappointing ,not to mention the openers who never seemed to be in place.Sharma should have bowled when given the ball,i am not sure what is the truth about him not bowling.Harbhajan is a world class bowler who was just out of luck.India needs to get their batting together like Dravid did. There is nothing to be ashamed of, it is a game that will always have its ups and downs.

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    I like how India got a whopping, they too like to put blames...In the WI match they were blaming umpires,rain anything they could. look how WI bowl them out with the absent of their strike bowler Rampaul ,now in this match they couldnt even bowl out england once.

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    i think india will surely bounce back in this series.its a 4 match series and the stats will change after the series.i think india will surely bounce back in this series.its a 4 match series and the stats will change after the series.

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    I keep hearing that India sent a 2nd eleven team to WI. But I look at this team and see 8 of the eleven played in WI. Its just EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES.

    So is this still India A team????? WI played with 3 bowlers after losing Rampaul on the first day but they stood up and saved the last test. Why couldn't the No1 team do likewise?

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    @Jose: Guess its a reality check for you. Your cricketing sense is baffling. You just cannot ask any Tom, Dick or Harry to Open in Test Match, the same thing is applicable to Wicket Keepers as well.

  • sportsfan on July 26, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    You gave up too easily, MS. You have to stand up like a man and fight for others to follow. stop looking for excuses for the drubbing you got. there is no shame in loosing a test match, but failing to stand up to the english is everything bad. bowling raina on the forth afternoon after lunch is inexcusable. please, you lead the fight from the front and it doesn't matter if you loose 4-0. don't surrender meakly like bedi did in jamaica.

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    One loss and the vultures are out. This is what happens when you are the number 1 team. Every one keeps a sharp eye. Some folks comment India cant win outside India.To refresh their memory. India recently won a test in SA to draw the series, they won in NZ, they beat England last time in England and they won a test in Perth when they toured Australia in 2008 India has its problems against genuine fast bowling so does every other team. Whats wrong in that England has its problems against genuine spin, what have they done of note in India in the last 20 years, did they win a test match, If they did no one remembers. They have more things to prove in India than India in England

    Dhoni is not giving excuses, he is answering questions in a press conference. What else do you expect him to say. The series is not over yet.

  • Midonoff on July 26, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    Ravi Rampaul of the West Indies didn't bowl in India's first innings in Dominica becuase he was sick and West Indies get on with it and manage to bowl out India with a bowler short. Did West Indies lose the match? No. Maybe Dhoni tactics was wrong when had England 5-62.

  • on July 26, 2011, 18:24 GMT

    India doesn't deserve number 1 spot in any format of cricket (Test / ODI/ T20 )

  • Ajay_Toronto_ on July 26, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    Team for 2nd Test - Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Mishra, Praveen, Ishant, Sreesanth...I really hope that the team mgmt is reading (and will benefit from) comments from the general public...

  • mohsin9975 on July 26, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    dhonis comments sounded familiar to those that he often does when india draw test matches in india. No turn for spinners(does bhajji spins the ball anymore),uneven bounce, blah blah

  • TexasCricket on July 26, 2011, 18:12 GMT

    Excuses don't win games. England played better than India. went in to a hole in first inning. Let England off the hook when they were 6 down in second inning. Lost the match. Need to Congratulate Harbhajan for excellent bowling throughout and For the SHOT of the game to get out. As long as India have guaranteed spots in the playing 11 for certain people, these kind of things will continue to happen. Hopefully team management will grow some brain and balls to pick the right playing 11 for the next test.

  • TexasCricket on July 26, 2011, 18:12 GMT

    Excuses don't win games. England played better than India. went in to a hole in first inning. Let England off the hook when they were 6 down in second inning. Lost the match. Need to Congratulate Harbhajan for excellent bowling throughout and For the SHOT of the game to get out. As long as India have guaranteed spots in the playing 11 for certain people, these kind of things will continue to happen. Hopefully team management will grow some brain and balls to pick the right playing 11 for the next test.

  • Gupta.Ankur on July 26, 2011, 18:01 GMT

    It seems people have forgotten that India have a habit of performing poorly in 1st overseas tests.......

    I can;t imagine India losing this series...........even if they don't win it they will draw this series for sure.........

    Even in SA last year, India lost the customary 1st test by an inngs and then immediately turned the tide in the most difficult ground to play test , durban, to register a win......

    So, Indians need not worry................your team will retain this trophy without fail....

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    india is the best team in all formats....india will take away the series comprehensively, its always tough in the first match...england was good in the first test...and the reasons which u are callin excuses are absolutely rational...zaheer was injured and couldnt ball... sachin was not well , gambhir injured... wat more u expect!!... india played with utmost spirit.. raina played superbly.... any other team in same situation would have conceded innings defeat, india still played well given the circumstances....its easy to comment and blame but its different when u r out there plaayin for ur country.... LONG LIVE INDIA>>JAI HIND!!!!!!

  • Deepfreezed on July 26, 2011, 17:58 GMT

    Indian fans and cricketers excuses are hilarious. Next time another team loses, they can also say it was bad luck. India need to invent a time machine so they can go back and make proper team selections.

  • p_cdhy on July 26, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    Its quite baffling why India chose to ignore Yuvraj and instead debuted a newcomer in such a hyped test / series where they are faced with saving their position as world no. 1 test side!If they had to eventually reshuffle the batting order in the second innings, why they could not include as Plan B and provide for both Raina & Yuvraj in the final eleven knowing that Yuvi is quite experienced / capable with the English conditions and can also bowl few fruitful overs when needed let aside that even he could have also been promoted in the batting line-up? That could have also spared all from the farcical spells by Dhoni. It seems Dhoni / selectors are more inclined towards Chennai guys... thanks to their mentors in Srinivasan / Srikanth?

  • BigINDFan on July 26, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    It is only human to give excuses when failing to meet the expectations of millions of fans. Not to mention the unnecessary hype that is created at Lords being the home of cricket. What would Dhoni say? We were comprehensively beaten by England. Well the English fans would love to hear that but the Indian fans will the same things that they are saying now. Dhoni is reflecting on what went wrong and hopefully there are lessons learned here - Do not rely on Zaheer, he is turning into a Shoaib Akthar. Do not have make-shift openers. Do not rely on Harbhajan as your lead spinner - he is no Anil Kumble. Above all the Fab Four are turning into Tiring Three. So look to the Rainas and Gambhirs to score the runs. That is the future!

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    If India are No. 1 in the world it's a sad reflection on world cricket today. The WI's of the 1980's or the Aussies of the 1990's would have murdered all of today's test teams. I would love to have seen Haynes, Greenidge, Richards, Lloyd etc chasing a 400 + total at lords against this England attack. Me thinks it would have been a different response.

  • Randy_Wilson on July 26, 2011, 17:54 GMT

    @ Muhammad Ibrahim . totally agree. but not Only Gayle. West Indies didn't had a Powerful Bowling line up neighter. and made it worst West Indies only had 2 front line Bowlers (Edwards and Bishoo) for the 3rd Test of the 1st innings. yet India couldn't Score alot of Runs they just made 347 allout ,even having R Dravid, VVS Laxman, SK Raina, MS Dhoni and V Kohli. plus not going for the win, tbh, they need to push for the win if they are know as world Champion.

  • Rage468 on July 26, 2011, 17:48 GMT

    I dunno why he looks so desperate about zaheer. zaheer is not even an average bowler let alone a good one. u play him or not, result would hav been the same

  • jupiterlaw on July 26, 2011, 17:46 GMT

    The truth is that England may have exposed India. They may not be the world's #1 test team, the ICC rankings notwithstanding. Except for Tendulkar, Gambier and Khan, this is the same side that drew the 3rd test against WI in Dominica. WI were also missing two of their best players. But let's wait for the 2nd test, when we would get a much better picture of India.

  • mohsin9975 on July 26, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    has anyone noticed? india play a two day tour match after 2nd test. Two day tour match-what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!

  • JustIPL on July 26, 2011, 17:34 GMT

    See the difference, England just faced full strength Lanka while Inida played gayleless windies. Dravid, Laxman, Mukund, Raina made impact but there was stronger bowling opposition here then in windies. Gambhir, Sachin and ZAK joined after a break so will make impact with some practice through the series. Sehwag and Yuvi will also start from zero like Gambhir, Sachin and ZAK so we should not expect wonders from these two guys right away. Both batting lineups are strong but England have certain edge in bowling department and are like to take 20 indian wickets more often in this series. Therefroe, Poms remain favourite. Furthermore, Indian are more concerned about number and stats and rankings. Real game is on the ground and these numbers come by themselves. This is what we learn from Poms.

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:34 GMT

    Dhoni blamed everything but the real blame was his decisions. To bowl rather than bat first.He misread the wicket. Not bowling Ishant after the break. Lousy wicket-keeping. Failed batting when a good inning was required from him. Dravid, Laxman, Scahin cannot do it all the time. He needs to focus more on his cricket. What success he had in the past is gone. He has to rediscover his "touch"

  • rsurya on July 26, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    @Ajay_Toronto. I liked your comment. but I feel that adding sreesanth to the team will leave ishanth and praveen in danger. even mcgrath will struggle if sreesanth bowls at the other end. If a team has an opener who does shows some fear cannot get through. lack of confidence seen in mukund, leave away the useles stats, he scored 50, 49 etc., this youngster should atleast pretend to be an opener of the no 1 side.

  • 5wombats on July 26, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    @kumarcoolbuddy; Point ONE; "no-one expected such poor batting display" you didn't notice what happened at Somerset then? Point TWO; "such good bowling from india in first test match". What good bowling was that? india took 14 wickets for 733 runs - having put England into bat in perfect bowling conditions. Point THREE; "Eng bowling better only on 5th Day". Are you sure? England took 20 wickets for 561 runs. Point FOUR; "at the end of 4th day ENG didn't expect they were going to win this match" L..O..L.. EVERYONE in England knew they were going to win - that's why 35000 people tried to get into a ground that only holds 28000 in order to watch. I know I did. Oh - hey @jonesy2 - how are they treating you? Food good? Time to go back indoors now fella.

  • abhi_cricinfo on July 26, 2011, 17:29 GMT

    Who needs spinner ? If India go with Harbhajan in next test it will be better for India to play without spinner. Here is playing XI (1) Mukund (2) Gambhir (3) Dravid (4) Sachin (5) VVS (6) Dhoni (7) Praveen (8) Ishant (9) Sreesanth (10) Zaheer (11) Munaf . Just for change :)

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:28 GMT

    tbh if the number one team has issues in playing their 'first' matches then they should be really ashamed of themsleves. Its a pathetic excuse. India is the no1 side in world cricket but its not the best. On the other hand england too is not an excellent side, because rankings dont show anything.The no1 team in the world has to be no1 in all formats with atleast 2 or 3 comprehensive wins in a series. Enland failed to defeat srilanka in 2 test matches nd won one. And on the other side india struggled to beat the west indies and if you say that they didnt send their best side then ur accepting the fact that india's backup is weak to say the least. And btw west indies didnt have chris in their side nd that damaged them big time. The only team that has the potential to become the best side in the world is SA. They've got some excellent bowlers , batsmen , wicket keepers nd a good coach.

  • kumarms_2000 on July 26, 2011, 17:27 GMT

    Obviously India lacked proper all rounder, especially when conditions are not favorable some one need to stand up which is totally lacking. Dhoni should be non playing captain if India thinks so high about his luck / captaincy abilities. India needs good fast bowlers which it doesn't have. I doubt India would bounce back. If anyone remembers 2007 English series, it is not the batsmen but bowlers helped matched with their swing blowing. Zaheer and RP, now that we miss both of them and Praveen / Ishant are not really of the same caliber in both swing and pace.. it is hard to bounce back. Munaf / Srishant are not very reliable. India hopes should only be in batting now. Bring in Yuvi and make Dhoni Non playing captian for next test and see. it defnitely is not the No 1 team with out sehwag.

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:25 GMT

    Can I volunteer to be captain for India team, I mean non-playing captain like dhoni !!!!

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:25 GMT

    Great comments from others. I just like to know what a lame excuse Sharma had for refusing to continue after lunch especially after having been so successful. He should have been more inspired, The captain should have asked him to continue. I am tired is a lame excuse for a fir bowler to refuse. He lacks team spirit and I hold him sigularly responsible for letting England recover from the possible disaster in second inning. Sharma let his team down at a critical juncture. Age old tendency of Indian batsman to chase out side the off seamers has not yet left them. What kind of training or discipline do they get. We have coaches for batsman, bowlers and physios and their work with this team failed. It was a shoddy performance by a team that ranks itself number 1. Rajendra Dheer

  • Me_A_Gemini on July 26, 2011, 17:25 GMT

    I hope India will win something in this series if and only of their board sit down with ICC and change some rules with which test cricket is currently being played. A rule that may help Indian team may be like 'Whoever makes more runs and takes more wickets, Indian team has to win'. Ummm..I think this will definitely work for Indian team.

  • cric4zh on July 26, 2011, 17:24 GMT

    did not assist turn? hey mr. u guyz r not playing in ur soil, u r plaiyn the home ground of cricket.

  • WestIndies1987 on July 26, 2011, 17:24 GMT

    I became a big fan of Dhoni ever since he guided India to the T20 win in 2007, but with these PATHETIC excuses not to mention his own poor form with the bat, I am losing respect for him. He should learn to lose with some dignity and respect for his opponent.

  • Me_A_Gemini on July 26, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    Excuses..Excuses...Excuses...Gosh! gimme a break..Why don't Indians accept that Indian team is not playing in India and they are not capable of winning matches outside India.

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Dhoni still proving himself as biggest excusemaker in cricket history. Just read 1st two para.

    A 10 years old boy also knows that there is no assist for Spinners at lords. So, why you choose Harbhajan ahead of Sreesanth?????? And now making excuse??? How many times SRT saved india on that kind of do-or-die situations???

    India's best decisions was to send Dravid as a openar and sending VVS to 1 down. Otherwise 5 wickets down by day 4th.

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:14 GMT

    Bad luck and couple of wrong selections cost India the match. This is not to take away credit from English who did play better. Yuvraj instead of Bhaji sounds better option now. After all surely Yuvraj would have scored a lot more but perhaps maybe have taken more wickets too for same number of runs leaked by Bhaji. Dhoni should become opener for this series instead of Mukund who seems good but this is too high pressure series for him as of now . Moving Dhoni will allow India to get a new spinner up the ranks. If I were Dhoni....I would go up order with Gambhir, get Yuvi for Bhaji and get in Mishra or Ashwin in the team. Also bring up Laxman and drop Tendulkar to Laxmans place.Plus I would give Raina and Yuvraj licence to score rapid and encourage to take risks to make up for loss of Sehwag. Once India score quick the English will be under pressure since their batting is good but not really capable of scoring real fast.

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    ZAHEER WAS INJURED . . . NO ALROUNDER TO REPLACE . . . DHONI HAD TO BOWL ....SEHWAG WAS NOT PLAYING. . . . GAMBHIR WAS INJURED WHIC LEAD TO SHUFFLING TO BATTING LINEUP . . . . INDIA HAD MANY DISADVANTAGES

    I HV FULL FAITH IN INDIA THEY VIL BOUNCE BACK GO INDIA GO . .

  • erangakavi on July 26, 2011, 17:04 GMT

    Someone said about India's BounceBackAbility.. With some stats.. LOL... These are the Jilmarts they say to hide the defeat!

  • on July 26, 2011, 17:04 GMT

    india is too reliant on aging players. these aging players have completed their shelf life. new youg talented players should be given enough chance to show their talent. otherwise indias future is very bleak and their number one position will be very short lived.

  • thair9999 on July 26, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni do you need cheese with the whining?

  • SUNILDASWANEY on July 26, 2011, 16:54 GMT

    DHONI IS TALKING 100% NONSENSE.HARBHAJAN IS A USELESS BOWLER,FULL STOP.HE SHOULD BE DROPPED IMMEDIATELY.FOR SOME STRANGE NON-UNDERSTANDABLE REASON HARBHAJAN IS UNDROPPABLE.I THINK WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF HAVING 43USD TO 1 INDIAN RUPEE THAN THIS FAILURE BEING DROPPED.BOWLING RAINA INSTEAD OF SHARMA IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE OVER RATE AND SAVE HIMSELF FROM A BAN WAS VERY VERY SELFISH.SINCE THE LAST TEST IN DOMINICA DHONI IS PROVING TO BE A MASSIVE DISAPPOINTMENT.

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    India should bring in RP in the team. He is an excellent swing bolwer and can lead bowling efforts with praveen and Ishant .

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:48 GMT

    At the beginning of the tour, Dhoni said that they must stick to the basics-this I assumed meant batting well, taking all catches and getting 20 wickets in the match. Clearly this did not happen. Injuries and illness are part of the game; this is not a valid excuse for losing a game that could have clearly been saved. India played the West Indies without Zaheer , Sachin and Gambhir, they did fairly well, so what is the real reason? Lack of will power, focus, risk-taking and consistency. Also, India never scored 300 or more, (if i remember correctly), against WI, a side that cannot be classed with the current England team. I'm not an English fan, but credit must be given to them. They played well, i.e they got the basics right.

  • I_AM_INDIA_SUPPORTER on July 26, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    OMG!!!! Jose who will be the captain of ur team ...hahaha lol.....

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    As usual the "Wall" broke down when it really mattered. The one time you want Dravid to display his boring play style all day he does not. Dravid is the most overrated cricketer ever.

  • Bang_La on July 26, 2011, 16:46 GMT

    "He blamed a surface............." Oh I didn't notice that England batted in a different surface! Shame on ECB. Billie Bowden tried his best but that bloody surface caused all the problems. And mark my word, if India stilll need to play on such surface in this series, Shewag's "injury" will not be healed!

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:45 GMT

    so is this the full strenght Indian team that Indian supporters were talking about for the West Indies series??? if it was well then surely they are about to lose their # 1 ranking! West Indies bowlers showed how to bowl with one bowler short...why cant India take a hint? as for their big scary powerful batting line up, still waitin to see it. Couldnt last a day on such an easy batting track??? poor poor poor! England for the win and the # 1 spot!

  • mohsin9975 on July 26, 2011, 16:45 GMT

    This india team has 5 players that are a must to keep the entire team competitive-sehwag,sachin,dravid,laxman and zaheer.Losing any one of these 5 players due to any reason makes this team mediocre and they struggle to win (or even draw).Losing two of them like india did in the first test spells doom.All the others are dispensible. BCCI needs to be smart to maintain these players in the near future. The bench players dont look the part(batsmen and bowlers).they all are incompetent at test level

  • MrUmp on July 26, 2011, 16:44 GMT

    As an Indian fan, result was expected - they nearly lost the last Lords test in a similar debacle of a performance. What was so annoying is that this is the team that carries the tag "No 1" but has no sense of understanding what it means.

    Where is the preparation. What the bleedin' 'ell did Zaheer think was going to happen to an ageing body on a cold summer day coming from a 4+ month rest with little or no match practice.

    It reminds me of that film - you know where a victorious Roman general on a chariot has a man holding above his head a wreath of laurels constantly saying "..remember thou art mortal ..." - we need to do the same with some of these Indians - preferabbly a man with a big boot rather than laurels.

    Not a good start for Dhoni and Fletcher. Bhajji proves he remain ineffective and India should look elsewhere. Plaudits to Mukund - did better than I thought.

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:44 GMT

    the reason is sehwag absence and zaheer hamstring injury and gambhir failed in both innings

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:39 GMT

    Next Test the best team in Can go out and try, Gambir & Dravid to Open, followed by Laxman, Sachin, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Harbjan Singh, Praveen Kumar, Ishant Sharma & Sree. This will strengthen our Batting line up as well as bowling, 3 Seamers + 01 Spinner + 02 Part time spinners Raina and Yuvraj.. Come on Dhoni and Team Management try it...

  • rishrules on July 26, 2011, 16:30 GMT

    India will bounce back and win they are hurt and so are the fans but England should not forget that India is still the no 1 side and i a an indian fan am confident that India will take treir revenge. GO INDIA GO

  • Sense_Sensibility on July 26, 2011, 16:30 GMT

    Very interesting last day! The English pace trio created the result. http://boggle-err.blogspot.com/

  • RGee on July 26, 2011, 16:28 GMT

    These are nothing but excuses...........send all the partially fit players home and go in with only full-fit players.......and after tat if you lose don't make any excuses!!!

  • mohsin9975 on July 26, 2011, 16:26 GMT

    stop giving stupid excuses dhoni. only valid reason was zaks injury.shuffling batting order shudnt have been an excuse.We are no.1 team but also no-1 in giving excuses that cud hav been avoided in the first place.BCCI wake up and shcedule matches properly.At least 2 warm up matches were warrantedin england when most indian batsman were out of form and almost scraped through against series in westindies

  • Cricketsphere on July 26, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    Well, here everybody seems to be targeting poor Harbhajan - it seems a collective hatred, and must be abhored. Please look at the facts first. 1 Nobody is targeting Swann - remember Swann did not do well either at lords, and yes it was his own home ground, and he had the bowl in his hands on the last day - 2 Harbhajan had catches dropped off him - and a clear lbw claim disallowed. 3 He is a far better batsman than any tailender - two centuries, and yes just a fortnight ago, he made 71 against the west indies and rescued india. 4 Please compare his stats with Zaheer - Zaheer has not even crossed 300 wickets in 79 tests, and Harby has crossed 400 in 97. And there is a major difference in their economy rates. Zaheer Khan has an economy rate of 3.28 in tests, wheras Harbhajan has an economy rate of just 2.83 per over. Please let some sanity prevail here.

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    I do not understand as to why some players are getting changes inspite of severe injuries and unfit like Zaheer, Harbhajan etc.. while others are totally ignored though they have proved themselves like Irfan Pathan, Ashwin etc.. Why so much discrimination in selection of players? It seems Goutham is also injured. Then, why he is selected?

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:17 GMT

    The first test once again re confirms everyone doubts that India can never be called number one test team.. (even though rating might say differently ). Can not understand if playing with 7 batsman also if we can not make 300 runs in either innings, why are we called best batting side.. Dont remember dhoni playing any match winning or saving innings for long long time. Sachin can never save us match.. sorry sachin i am great fan of yours but this is truth... Dont see india winning any of remaining matches if we play like this... Desperately needs sehwag and 5 bowlers. Buck up India and come back and win remaining matches and show the world what are you capable of. Finally, Harabhajan.... Why is he playing ? Why Young bowler like Ashwin does not get chance ? Harbhajan records overseas is dismal... He has long way to go... Give other bowler chance

  • Pritt32 on July 26, 2011, 16:17 GMT

    India was abysmal and outclassed by a jubilant England team. There powerful batting crumbled under a quality England seam attack. Indian team is ageing with Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar set to call it a day soon and new boots to fill in places. These thoughts need to be put aside for now and focus on getting back in the series. Injuries have been a huge setback for the team, but it is no excuse in a heavy defeat at Lords. The World Champions will find it tough as there are major injuries and England team is looking formidable, but let's not be too harsh on the Indian team. Sehwag likely to be ruled for the entire series and your no 1 bowler Z.Khan set to miss the entire series. I am disappointed with H.Singh as he only plays for himself, as he bowled poorly and played an irresponsible shot in the second innings. England team deserved their win, as they put on an excellent performance. I hope India bounce back and prove everyone wrong.

  • kaps222 on July 26, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    "What could go wrong, went wrong"??? You won the toss, Dhoni. Your team benefited from Billy Bowden's mistakes. Your team benefited from dropped catches. Man up and own up your mistakes. Selecting a half fit bowler was your decision. Arriving to the game without adequate practice in WI or India was your decision, and your buddies'. Selecting Harbhajan to play on a ground that does not favor spin was your decision. Own up, man. Your excusitis is pathetic here.

  • vickyrIND on July 26, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    For the next test india should go with a fully fit team and player, not with half fit or out of form players. Indian board and selectors also have a tendency to forget the players delibrately who are left out for a while like Nehra, RP Singh, Dinesh karthick and Irfan etc and not giving them second chance in the team. They should be picked up atlease once in a while to keep them motivating and which will also help in player roation and fitness.

    Now a days too much cricket in going on and none of the player want to miss any big money churner like IPL etc which is surely taking a toll on cricket and players. India have a big pool of players and So for the remaining games test/ODIs, players should be on rotation. Atleast half of the player in this series should be rested for next and so on. That will keep them fit

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:13 GMT

    Looks bit puzzled when there were no news of players not playing in T20 due to fevers/injuries. what does it reflect?

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:12 GMT

    Dhoni, stop making excuses and move on.

  • siddharth0311 on July 26, 2011, 16:08 GMT

    These comments from all the other users are ridiculous. India is known to bounce back from these conditions and it will in the incoming matches.......As far as sachin and harbhajan is considered they are the best players i have seen so dont blame them. You will all see they will become the reasons for win in the incoming matches...Be positive....

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    Wow. Dhoni is such a sore looser.He should Congrat England and just move on.Specially when you get beat so badly.Zaheer had nothing to do with India sruggling with the bat and to score 300 in a fairly flat pitch,in both innings.When you are a International player changing the batting order is the lamest excuse possible.If you can't accept the lost and move on , then you will keep on loosing.Everyone knows the real reason is there inability to play the bounce and swing.Dhoni you lost my respect I had for you.

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    India for 2nd test is: 1. Gambhir, 2. Dravid, 3. Sachin, 4. VVS Laxman, 5. Yuvaraj Singh, 6. Suresh Raina, 7. Amit Mishra, 8. Praveen Kumar, 10. Ishant Sharma, 11. Sreesanth

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    Lets not over-analyze -- England won because they bowled well and batted well. Time (next three tests, that is) will tell if that was because of India's slow start/injuries/etc in test 1 or because England is just a better side.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 26, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    Shame. Dhoni is happy with the performances in this match? Really? Most of Dhoni's post-match excuses were appalling, barring Zaheer's absence. He made a bad choice post lunch and sent Ishant to the media to save his own skin. Captain 'cool' is nothing but Captain Fool. What about his appalling Keeping? Dhoni is a walking wicket himself. I hope he gets banned for the next test as a result of the slow over rate in this match. I hate to say this but Sachin is a Legendary Choker, couldn't take India to safety even after getting two reprieves - one from Bowden and one from Strauss. Thanks to that great man Dravid, we are into the 5th day's final session. Match should have been over long time back. Too bad, this rare genius Dravid failed in the final inning. India lost this match due to the bad captaincy of Dhoni. Sachin has too many glaring weaknesses and he should try and learn from the rare genius of Dravid as to how to go into a defensive shell and then unfurl at an opportune moment.

  • SpeedCricketThrills on July 26, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    A story doing the rounds is that Zaheer was not fit BEFORE the test and the team management knowingly took him. If this is the case, the team deserved the result it got

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 26, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    @Alexk400, I agree ENG is a good team and this is their home pitch so they will be able to adjust to the pitch accordingly and that doesn't mean that all the overseas players should adjust immediately to the conditions. Everyone knows that Lord's pitch is always tricky to understand. It's not reasonable to talk about team's ability just because India lost this test match. I really felt India performed badly only on 5th day. The way VVS, RD and Dhoni gave away their wickets was not good. India lost the match that's the end result. Bhajji was the only drawback in this this test match. His bowling was not at all helpful and so the batting.

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:01 GMT

    THATS AWFUL YOU KNOW LOSING THE VERY FIRST MATCH LIKE THIS BHAJJI WAS RIDICULOUS ISHANT AND PAVEEN WERE EXCELLENT MY TEAM FOR 2nd TEST IS MUKUND,GAMBHIR ,DRAVID, LAXMAN, SACHIN, YUVI, RAINA,PRAVEEN ISHANT SRESANTH AND MISHRA

  • on July 26, 2011, 16:01 GMT

    india is going to lose 2nd match also ...... for sure !

  • StatisticsRocks on July 26, 2011, 15:59 GMT

    Mr Dhoni, You are putting me (us Indians) to shame by giving excuses. It's OK to lose, but please do not give excuses instead give credit to the England team who were way better than India in all departments of the game. Bowling, Batting and Fielding, which we really need to improve. We could not take 10 wickets in either innings and that is a big concern. I am sure cook will be back among runs and if India doesn't improve their bowling whitewash is certain. England truly played like champions and dominated right from the begining of this test match.

  • Angad11 on July 26, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    @Test_Cricket_Best_Cricket - LOL, i like the new world "Kamranescue Keeping", that would be the most derogatory word for any wicket keeper.

  • on July 26, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    I am ashamed of just reading the reasons for losing? Where is dhoni's feeling !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pitch, VARIABLE BOUNCE, swing, WHATEVER………………. is same for both teams, isn't it, just play your game. We need at least two fast bowlers in the team from billion people!

  • s382412 on July 26, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    Its not alarming situation for India camp. Dravid was exceptional. Everyone started well but could not consolidate. Now worry for Indian camp is Dhoni's Batting form. Since his 90 in centurion it was his 6 consecutive failure. He need to regain his form and the another failure was Harbhajan Singh. It seems he lost his touch. He need to work on it. Finally India's catching ability was not up to mark during first test. No doubt India is not as sharp as Aussies/ Sri lanka or South Africa but they don't drop catch... Hope things will work in India's way in second test.

  • vickyrIND on July 26, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    Whatever Dhoni says but the truth is India didnt played well. Neither bowling, batting and fielding was upto the mark thanks to added injury and illness. Indian batting was totally out of color. None of batting stalwarts able to hold the fort. There was no demons in the pitch. It was total batting failure and all the biggies need to take responsibility for that. In bowling, We dont have a line up like England but we need to have the best available, India should need to go with 5 bowlers. If 6 batsman cant do the job i am sure 7 will be no good either. So should go with 6-5 combination if India is thinking to win in this test match. Also drop harbhajan to find some form as he is just a burden now.

    Dhoni dont give excuses, think hard and come out with correct plan.

  • on July 26, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    @Jose: Dude! you dropped the captain! Thank god Dhoni doesn't listen to you!

  • popcorn on July 26, 2011, 15:51 GMT

    I have ALWAYS believed that India does not deserve to be ranked the Number One Test playing Nation. They have NEVER won a Series in Australia or South Africa. They have got points ONLY playing largely in their own backyard. Th Ranking System does not give MORE weightage for winning AWAY Series - unfamiliar conditions. Australia is THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT HAS WON SERIES HOME and AWAY. As for Dhoni, he is cocky, has zero humility, and deserves to be sacked.

  • avsandeep on July 26, 2011, 15:49 GMT

    I think Dhoni should replace Harbhajan with Amit Mishra. Harbhajan is not simply the same bowler he was and his record over the last few tests has been very poor. For a person who has taken over 400 wickets this is a shoddy performance. If Dhoni continues with the same team we will lose the 2nd test match as well. My team would be Gambhii, Mukund, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Raina, Dhoni, Mishra, Praveen, Sreesanth and Ishant

  • on July 26, 2011, 15:45 GMT

    lol@dhoni please include sree in playing 11

  • on July 26, 2011, 15:37 GMT

    India need to find places for Munaf & Yuvraj. MP gets close to the stumps when he bowls & will also get so swing. He is a very underrated bowler. Yuvraj is a good alllrounder, U can play him to take care of Pieterson & maybe few others. Also he may give u some runs Even though Swann may take care of him. Swann is the best bowling to lefties. India should not force ZK recovery prog. the 3rd test maybe decisive.

  • Nampally on July 26, 2011, 15:34 GMT

    India became #1 test team because of their batting. In this test the Indian batting did not show up. Is that not the #1 reason why India failed so miserably, Mr. Dhoni?. When 3 of the 7 Indian batsmen are coming out of injuries and one batsman still injured, half the Indian batting is absent or lacking practice. Also playing in English conditions without adequate practice & facing an England team who have been playing for 1/2 the season is not a walk in the park. England could put on 160 runs with Broad & Prior tells something about Indian bowling as well. This wicket was so perfect yet the Indian batsmen got out by playing reckless shots. Is this a responsible batting side? So the reason for all the Indian failures are summed up - Rusty batting, Lack of physical fitness causing injuries, No experience in English conditions, Lack of determination to win, failure to finish the job & of course bad luck & questionable tactics by Dhoni.Unless they change fast they will lose again..

  • AjaySridharan on July 26, 2011, 15:30 GMT

    Come on Dhoni...both the teams played on the same ground and same wicket. Don't give excuses...show some grace in defeat. England played a better game overall. Yes, fitness issues hurt India...but at the highest level, fitness is an integral element of being a pro athlete. If you can't keep up with it, give way to someone else. India can't seem to produce enough good fast bowlers, and we are limping around with broken ones. Unfortunately this problem will not go away anytime soon since all the big bucks are for the big hitting brutes in IPL, a format with scant respect for the bowling craft. There's no economic incentive for anyone to become a fast bowler in India. Economic 101 baby!

  • myusacric on July 26, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    The biggest failure is Bhajji > He should be our prime bolwer specially in 2nd innings. See what Kumble was doing for India for years & years.Bhajji is senior bowler with 400+ wickers but still fail to taking wickets specially after Kumble retiertment. What is did in WI ? where the pitch is similar like India but struggle to take wicket against rank 7 team. His wicket taking ability should be ????? Dravid is the best slip fielder and highest catcher but his form in WI & here as first slip fielder is also ???????. Did is slow on his refeces due to age because ball is always short for couple of inches. If all those catches which should be taken at first would have taken may be we have other result

  • khurramsch on July 26, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    why didnt dhoni said this time what he said in WI? " iF THE RIGHT DECISIONS WERE MADE I WOULD BE HAVING MY DINNER BY NOW"? may b didnt coz this time india benifited? point is that DRS should be used coz some time bad decisions could go against you & sometimes in favor.

  • getgopi on July 26, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    England were outstanding. Their batting may not look as strong as India's but combined with their terrific bowling/fielding and the fitness of their players, every run they score seems ten times as much. At this rate, they will soon be setting the standard for what a test team should look like.

    This "slow starters" and "historically, first match losers" mentality for India needs to go away. India are not a no.1 team if their players have recurring fitness issues and they continue to ease into series like this. Why isn't Zaheer fit after all this time out of the national side? Why do Indian players in general have such issues with fitness all the time? Aren't these guys multi-millionaires with some of the best training and recovery facilities available to them?

  • gerardpereira20 on July 26, 2011, 15:27 GMT

    Turning point of the match was the Pietersen decision. had he been given out like he should have on 49 the match would have been a 50/50 affair. It was tough on India because apart from the three bowlers, Ishant, PK and Harbajan nobody else could turn their hand around. Zak broke down on the first day and both PK and Ishant showed heart. At 62 for five Ishant showed what was possible but the guy ran out of steam. Real bad batting from the batsmen IPL fatigue Gambhir and Shewag played in the IPL with injuries, An old timer like sachin should not be playing in the IPL if he wants to prolong his career after all he has millions in the bank. As Nasser Hussein has pointed out a number one position means nothing to these guys when more important things like banking the bucks get in the way

  • on July 26, 2011, 15:25 GMT

    What India misses is a bowling allrounder like broad.. Harbhajjan can bat only on flat pitches and cannot counter swing bowling.. Moreover in the past 1 year i havent seen him turning the ball.. God knows what happened to his doosra.. On the other hand swaan was turning the ball and aggresively attacking the batsmen.. He should be surely replaced in the next test..

  • on July 26, 2011, 15:25 GMT

    Take uvi before he gets sores sitting on the side line

  • bhushan08 on July 26, 2011, 15:05 GMT

    Dissapointing loss but I'm hopeful this Indian team will come back strongly in the next test. But, what to say about the dissapointment with Bhajji? He continues to be average.Ever since Kumble's retirement he has failed to step-up with couple of commendable exceptions (NZ and the recent SF series) and even there it was more because of pressure created by seamers rather than bhajji leading the attack. I think that is his problem, he just does not play like a 400+ wicket test bowler. With the opposition down to 60/5, he himself having taken an early wicket, you will expect a 'leading' bowler to clean up the opposition but not Bhajji. In absence of zaheer, he should have stepped up and 'lead' the attack, bowled more aggresively but nothing. he continued to be flat and mediocre. And worst of all, this is not the first time he is playing in england, this is his 3rd tour if I am not wrong. He should be replaced by Mishra asap. Bhajji is probably the biggest free rider in this team!!

  • Chris_P on July 26, 2011, 15:04 GMT

    Come on MS, credit where it's due. PLEASE. England totally, and I mean totally outplayed you in almost every facet except catching where they actually performed worse than you! Now if they had held their catches like they did in the Ashes, this would have been a HUGE blowout! Sure things went sour, but great teams bounce back to overcome adversities. The major difference is that England have classy bowlers through their ranks while the reliance of one bowler always comes back to haunt you when the tide turns. Broad was average in the first innings, but showed his class in the second. Tremlett was consistent in both innings, Anderson shone in the first innings, whilst Swann performed at his usual high level. That is the difference, when you have a pack of quality bowlers, you don't rely on one to do all the work. For too long this side has been held together by aging stars, the inevitable decline has begun. All teams go through this, & India are no exceptions.

  • Angad11 on July 26, 2011, 14:55 GMT

    I agree that there is no need to panic and im confident that we will bounce back strongly. But i think we can make a couple of reasonable changes to the team. 1. If Rahul is ok to open with Gautham, then i think Mukund can make way for Yuvi. Nothing against Mukund, he did really well, but it will give us the extra spinner in Yuvi. 2. Got to do something with Bhajji, may b Mishra since Aswin is not in the squad. But i really doubt this will happen. 3. If Zak is not fit then just blindly go in with Sree, we have too many medium pace. Even Ishant is slow medium these days. Read Sree's twitter that he was able to generate good pace in practice. Pls go with Sree and not Munaf.

  • HarishVS on July 26, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    If it is so clear that Harbajan has no job to do with his ball in Lord's pitch why do you pick him? We were only 3 bowlers going into this match with Zaheer not certain to last even the first session of the test! needless to mention that 4th bowler was absolute flop. Yurvraj would have been a better selection so that he could bowl the required slow left arm spin. Also as someone rightly spotted in this forum, Harbajan loses his rythm totally when a catch is dropped off his bowling. Unfortunately Dravid was standing too far in the slips to be able to catchany of the edges and Dhoni is now almost made it a habit to drop catches induced by Harbajan. Totally, Harbajan is misfit in this set up of Indian team. Better take Yuvi for next match and add Mishra or Munaf. If Zaheer is not fit, bring Sreesanth. Let the bowling team be Ishant, Sreesanth, Munaf and Mishra with Yuvi backing up if required.

  • _agummadi_ on July 26, 2011, 14:52 GMT

    How come no one even mentioned the possibility of sachin opening? Yuvi was thrown in the mix, poor Abhimanyu's head is already on the line.. but the best batsman in the world isn't really asked to step up. I mean, if people here are really putting him in the same league as the Don and Viv, the least you can expect of him, is to volunteer to open.. which he already does in ODI's. Here's something else.. I've seen the Punter step up to the challenge.. leading from the front. Remains to be seen if the "Don" Tendlya can too!! Any thoughts?

  • on July 26, 2011, 14:45 GMT

    India deserve this MASSIVE DEFEAT against the best Test team in the world. They have been putting up mediocre performances since a long time except on few occasions on tailor made home dust bowls. During their recent tour they proved that they were slightly better than the 7th ranked West Indies and that their actual rank should have been SIXTH. Here before the Test started, they knew very well the conditions of the pitch, the fitness levels and capabilities of their players and the strength of the opposition yet they went with just four bowlers. Zaheer's lack of fitness is well known yet one wonders how they could afford to select him as a mere spectator for such an important series. And one had to witness all those Dhoni's gimmicks-he wants to prove the world that he can also bowl, instead of first PROVING that he can KEEP THE WICKETS PROPERLY (look at those fundamental errors of his step movements which led to dropping of two easy catches) and his CONTINUED FAILURES AS A BATSMAN.

  • Raj12345 on July 26, 2011, 14:43 GMT

    Dhoni has to think himself, what he is adding value to teat team. Almost he become non-playing captain.

  • royramesh on July 26, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    DHONI SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT HIS SUBSTANDARD KEEPING HELPED TO LOSE THE TEST. IN FACT IT'S THE WORSE KEEPING IN A TEST FOR DECADES (EXCLUDING DILSHAN IN 2009}. HIS KEEPING WAS ALWAYS MEDIOCRE COMPARED WITH SPECIALIST KEEPERS SUCH AS BOB TAYLOR, EVANS, JACK RUSSELL OR EVEN KIRAN MORE - A TECHNICALLY ACCOMPLISHED KEEPER. HERE HE LEFT TWO SITTERS THAT PASSED 1ST SLIP AND DROPPED TWO SNICKS THAT HIT HIS PADS COS HE DOES NOT MOVE HIS BODY AND HANDS WITH A TURNING BALL. HE WAS FUMBLING ORDINARY TAKES ALL MATCH. WHY ARE THE COMMENTATORS/ WRITERS KEEPING SILENT? IT'S TIME SOMEBODY SPEAKS OUT COS INDIA WILL NEVER BE NO1 WITHOUT A SPECIALIST KEEPER.

  • ansh316 on July 26, 2011, 14:42 GMT

    Plz show some boldness and drop Bhajji now.Will love to see India playing 4 fast bowlers.For spin bowling;Raina and co. can do a better job than Bhajji!

  • Ajay_Toronto_ on July 26, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    As world beaters, one would not expect Dhoni to give excuses...I support India but believe we were outplayed...Dhoni should have appreciated England's performance and should have held his head high, as champions also get beaten once in a while...Mishra shd replace Bhajji (look at this match and the WI series earlier...neither variety in his bowling nor any strong body language)...Dravid shd open with Gambhir; Yuvraj shd replace Mukund (he has dragged the ball from outside off to his stumps 4 times in the 4 tests he has played...plays with a tilted bat...obviously a technique issue)...Sreesanth shd replace the injured Zaheer...also, while everyone is worrying about the Indian batting, they have come good after initial setbacks in the past also... THE SEAMERS SHOULD PITCH IT UP...even if you get hit for a few boundaries, if the ball is doing even a bit, there is always a possibility of the batman misjudging his stroke...that was the key to England's bowling success

  • amjadmayo on July 26, 2011, 14:39 GMT

    INDIA keep in mind, that is not Indian pitches & Condition.

  • on July 26, 2011, 14:38 GMT

    same happened in 2002 n 2006 india gt walloped in 2002 at lords n rain n badlight somehow saved then in first test at Lords..same happened here..and we all knwo what happened in 2002 n 2006 after lords test.After india gt a feel of conditions..england was nowhere to b seen..

    same will happen now..

    every side has the best chance against india in the first test..if u r a gud side..u vl get ur customary win against india in the first test..but second game onwards..forget it...

    with sreesanth deputing fr Zaheer n his inherent urge to prove himself..india will b coming hard at england..n watch out gr gautam n sachin..

  • sachin86 on July 26, 2011, 14:37 GMT

    Once again it has been proven that dravid doesn't deliver when it matters the most.He failed in the pressure situation in the 2nd innings and scored his hundred in first innings and exposed the tailenders. What is the use of centuries if they dont win you matches?another century of dravid in losing cause.he was never a team man and plays for his personal milestones.

  • on July 26, 2011, 14:33 GMT

    i know english are really chuffed at winning against a hamstrung team which is forced to get its keeper bowl n have already anointed themselves as world champions..so did the Saffers..till they gt a nice shellacking in Durban n were brought shattering down to earth after having getting lucky with toss n conditions ..just like the english gt lucky with injuries in indian camp n conditions..

  • JustIPL on July 26, 2011, 14:28 GMT

    Indian batting will bounce back but bowling is not going to be impressive. ZAK took two wickets when it was highly helpful for bowling thats y dhoni wasted the toss. ZAK was totally ineffective against depleted Somerset and did not even bowl in the second innings. If he did it to deny strauss of practice against him then he did the biggest blunder as his fitness problems would have exposed and team management would have thought that it may be bad sign for the test. Further they wanted ZAK from taking a stick in the second innings before going into the test match. Without ZAK it is the same attack that played gayleless windies so future forecast is crystal clear. Mishra has not been impressive at all he will concede more runs than bhajji for sure. Tendulkar fans dont want to see him begging for that magical figure and retiring on 99 hundreds will give him more greatness than playing such useless knocks. He had a great chance after winning world cup but it is typical of inidan heroes.

  • correctcall on July 26, 2011, 14:26 GMT

    It would be interesting to make public the Refs calculations on over rates. Dhoni is sailing very close to the wind and this may influence team selection for 2nd test. ALL the laws of cricket need to be respected and administered (including running on the pitch Praveen) without fear or favour, irrespective of who is involved. India risks potential charges of a degree of casualness in this area yet it is vital to the spirit of cricket. Particularly when playing for the number one spot.

  • Kashi0127 on July 26, 2011, 14:05 GMT

    Dhoni is giving excuse after excuse, for god's sake why cant't he accept England played much much better. The real reason is playing the stupid IPL

  • Hindh on July 26, 2011, 14:03 GMT

    India have performed exceedingly well in this match despite being reduced to a 9 man team competing against 11 man side in their home conditions. Great going India and good luck for the next test. We won the WC with the same bowling and there is no reason why we cant beat this over hyped eng side.

  • on July 26, 2011, 14:03 GMT

    Dhoni still proving himself as biggest excusemaker in cricket history. Just read 1st two para.

    A 10 years old boy also knows that there is no assist for Spinners at lords. So, why you choose Harbhajan ahead of Sreesanth?????? And now making excuse??? How many times SRT saved india on that kind of do-or-die situations???

    India's best decisions was to send Dravid as a openar and sending VVS to 1 down. Otherwise 5 wickets down by day 4th.

  • flyingmachinee on July 26, 2011, 14:02 GMT

    @mad hu.............U r spot on...........

  • CricketingStargazer on July 26, 2011, 13:57 GMT

    @Jose, in recent years Lords has tended to be a batting paradise. England have struggled to close out matches there because it is the ground that tends to offer least to the bowlers unless the atmospheric conditions are right for swing.

  • on July 26, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    Just name the BEST CAPTAIN INDIA EVER HAD. Dont say Sourav Ganguly that guy was left behind by M.S.Dhoni when he DELIVERED the WORLD CUP. People castigate after such a performance, this guy tries and save the skin of the people whom he will lead in the next match & probably may even draw the series if not win it.(Read Harbhajan Singh and the batsmen) Everybody takes chances few convert them as many times as MSD had done. He believes in his players lets believe in him. Hard luck for not lasting 120 overs in those conditions.

  • mushir on July 26, 2011, 13:53 GMT

    Well India is No. 1 is world ranking. So they should be well prepared for all sort of pitches and 'patches'. Zaheer injury was a set back but Harbhajan shud have taken charge to deliver which he never does. For what he is India's best bowler if he can't take his team out of pressure. And Scahin seemed to be down with pressure fever for performing at Lords rather than viral fever. And if India want ot be number for long time please ask Laxman to hang his boots and bring more aggresive batsmen like Prior,KP, Raina...young guns bring confidence and spark which put pressure on opposition. Harbhajan and Laxman days must be over ASAP if India has to be Number 1 in test becuase England is their real test.

  • Clive_Dunn on July 26, 2011, 13:50 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni's comments as well, fitness levels in the Indian team are poor and the IPL and complacency are to blame. Also he was correct in his judgement that not phasing out any of the ageing batsmen over the past few years was always going to hurt India at some point. He was also totally correct in criticizing Harbajhan's general effort and attitude, and the inclusion of a clearly unfit Zaheer into a paperthin 4 man attack before the game. Well said MS !

  • Jose on July 26, 2011, 13:29 GMT

    So far historically, losing 1st match helped India to bounce back and cant wait to see if it repeats here as well. However, Harbhajan is becoming more burden to the team with his incompetence in all departments. Dhoni also did not have guts go with 5 bowlers in English conditions. If he doesn't change the team for 2nd test, India will surely lose 2nd match also. Mukund is looking absolutely ridiculous even on moderately batting friendly pitch & I cant imagine any improvement further. India should pick Yuvi for decent spin bowling and replace Harbhajan with Mishra. My team India for 2nd test is: 1. Gambhir, 2. Dravid, 3. Sachin, 4. VVS Laxman, 5. Yuvaraj Singh, 6. Suresh Raina, 7. Amit Mishra, 8. Praveen Kumar, 10. Ishant Sharma, 11. Sreesanth

  • Chncricfan_2k0 on July 26, 2011, 13:28 GMT

    Surely India will bounce back next match as usual when comparing their overseas tours previously.but before that there are plenty of home works need to be done.I don't know why Harbhajan is still in the team.he needs to spend some time in Ranji trophy matches before being selected for the national side.Amit Mishra is a far good bowler and he can be a very useful batsman lower down the order, not like Harbhajan.Whenever India lose the match.MSD is searching for options, but he needs to think about his position in the team, as a wicket keeper and a batsman, most importantly he is the captain.Yesterday If he would have scored about 50 or 60 runs, the result will be different.Sachin fails as usual when the team is in trouble..the biggest part played for our loss is injury and illness to some of the icon players.I expect this will not happen in the upcoming matches and hope India will do well in this series.!

  • BnH1985Fan on July 26, 2011, 13:27 GMT

    It would be impossible to beat any regular test playing nation with one or two good bolwers. What good is a so called "world class" batting line up if they can't hold fort for 1 day .. on the very pitch where Prior and Broad put together more than 150 runs just the day before?

  • on July 26, 2011, 13:22 GMT

    I totally agree wid dhoni bcoz afta loosing bowler lik zak was hard 2 get into da game who started wid 3 maidens n den getting eary wicket's of cook n strausl..any team can struggle if dey loose bowler lik zak i just hop he get's recover frm hamstrin.n 2nd thing is v were missing sehwag n 3rd sachin was suffering viral fever same gauti.. n playing wid just 2 seamers ws not 2 easy but ishant's spell was really impressive still praveen n ishant did really great job still i can say ind wre at dere bst widout sehwag,zak n injured sachin n gauti hope india bounce bak 2nd test bcoz it's natural for ind not playing gud in 1st test

  • Chakra1685 on July 26, 2011, 13:14 GMT

    I am not too convinces with the reason of change of batting slots.... I mean common we havent asked Ishant to open the innings or praveen to bat one down... Guys who could face the new ball faced it and the guys who had to play the old ball played it in a different position... thats it i guess.... one bowler short is really the problem and offcourse Eng played the best in their ground...

  • Narkovian on July 26, 2011, 13:13 GMT

    I am an ENG supporter. My view on 1st Test as follows.... Great win by England. Broad at last seems to have learnt how to bowl. Even if his constant dissent against the umpires continues. It must stop. I think Billy B should have reported him. Its horrible to watch. As far as India is concerned. S. Tendulkar, VVSL, and Dravid are simply great players. But the time must be very close indeed when they will be past it. Perhaps very much closer than IND fans may like.( Now?) The temptation is to keep playing. I have a feeling this series is going England's way with some ease. Where are IND's new generation ? Zaheer Khan.. great bowler. But who's fault is it that he came to England only semi fit ? It was plain for all to see even before his injury that he wasn't fit. What back up is there ? I like P. Kumar... plays with a smile on his face, and swings the ball like crazy. N

  • SUNDE on July 26, 2011, 12:59 GMT

    My team for second test Dravid, Gambhir, Laxman,sachin,Raina,Dhoni,Pravin,Mishra,ishant,srishanth,munaf. This will give us comfort of having 5 bowlers & 6 batsman. taking 7 batsman won't do job for us. As experienced I think the last batsman usually batting with tail so every one has to tell himself that I will stay there till I can.if 5 can't do then what the 6th one do.

  • harryindia on July 26, 2011, 12:54 GMT

    i think india has reasonably well considering that there were effectively 3 bowlers only after zaheer went. we should support our team for it to bounce back in the series. but one thing is sure..indian batsmen could have batted better than what they did... except dravid who showed his class in 1st innings... AND BY THE WAY... WHERE HAVE WE LOST RP SINGH... he was the one to take 5 wickets last time in Lords in 2007... why is he not in the team....????

  • mysecretme on July 26, 2011, 12:40 GMT

    Regarding the Bhajji issue. I have some sympathy towards Bhajji. Early on in the spell, Bhajji bowls at his best and invariably gets an edge of gets a false stroke from the batsman. It is Indias misfortune that in the last few tests, Dhoni and Dravid have put down several edges that Bhajji got from the batsman. If he gets that one wicket, Bhajji's tail goes up and he becomes the world class spinner we know him to be.

    Having said that, there is a geniune problem with his mental makeup. As soon as a catch is dropped, Bhajji completely deflates and starts bowling utter crap. There are two solutions for this 1)Bhajji matures mentally and starts looking for the wicket until he finds it (attacking mentality) while bowling his stock off spinners to contain rather than attack 2)Dhoni maturing as a captain and using Bhajji as an attacking bowler- short spells of 5 overs each so that the batsmen don't get used to him and he can go back and plan his dismissals if things don't work out.

  • on July 26, 2011, 12:34 GMT

    The absence of Zaheer did hurt the side. However it is the failure of Harbhajan and the reluctance of Dhoni to give other spinners a chance that is hurting India more.

    Add to it the gradual decline of Laxman and Tendulkar, the indifferent form of Dhoni and the inavailability of Sehwag.

    This Indian team looks to be headed for a complete whitewash i.e. 3-0 defeat in this series unless the weather is kind and makes it 2-0.

    Indian team will face a huge dip in the Test rankings in the near future with Sachin, Dravid and Laxman all close to retirement. Dhoni needs to address this immediately .

  • Charindra on July 26, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    M.S. Dhoni in West Indies said that ""If the correct decisions were made the game would have finished much earlier and I would have been in the hotel by now". Well, the same can be said for this game. If those 2 plumb LBWs against Raina and Sachin had been given England would have won the match in the 2nd session. Funny how Dhoni doesn't seem to have noticed that... hmmmm

  • Pathiyal on July 26, 2011, 12:30 GMT

    when you look at this test from england's perspective, you will see a lot of positives. KP back to the helm of affairs, disciplined bowling from ALL, matt prior- stuart broad raising more than expectations in batting playing that crucial innings, great captaincy making use of all options well and in their best capacity. but the best factor of all - their fitness throughout the match was awesome. as far as india is concerned - absence of sehwag, lack of fitness to the key players, viral fever, injury combined with their over- cautious batting which let the inform english bowlers to get on top all the time throughout the match. having said that the innings of RD, VVS & Raina deserve some praise. better luck in the future.

  • gitapat on July 26, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    The injury to Gambhir and Tendulkar's illness was not expected .Sewhag not being available and Zaheer's Khan's injury was owing to bad planning.And the presence of Dhoni in a Test team and Harbhajan in the Indian team in any format is simply poor selection.

  • MaruthuDelft on July 26, 2011, 11:39 GMT

    Dravid, Laxman, Kallis....it is wrong to compare these guys with Sachin. Sachin's league includes Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Greame Pollock, Brian Lara, Gary Sobers and Barry Richards. Even Ponting, Greg Chappel and Martin Crowe fall short of that league. However it is true that Sachi can't handle pressure; also he cannot score boundaries if the field is well spread in ODI's. But still Sachin is the 4th or 5th or 6th best of the 7 since Bradman. Bradman, Viv and Pollock are clearly better than Sachin.

  • xxxneilxxx on July 26, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    Tendulkar is a class batsman...but unlike lara, dravid, kallis....he doesnt deliver when needed the most....they need sehwag in the team...yuvraj also... Sehwagh.Ghambir.Dravid.Tendulkar.Laxman.Yuvraj.Dhoni.Ashwin.Kumar.Sharma.Patel.

  • on July 26, 2011, 11:19 GMT

    the Sri Lankans did better than this save for only 4th innings of the 1st test. Lift your game India. Bring on the Asian supremacy

  • on July 26, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    The decision of fielding first was right and nothing went wrong in that perspective.. The lethargic bowling efforts in the first innings cost the test match for the Men in Blue as they missed their usual aggression which they could show in the second innings..... Hope they will bounce back in the Second Test...

  • on July 26, 2011, 11:13 GMT

    Dhoni must stop acting as if he is innovative person in the cricket world. Personally Sachin I have never seen a match where he single handed won for india. Harbhajan singh ,he can play as an allrounder not as a spinner any more, Bring some young bowlers into the team ,VVS,Dravid and Raina are good

  • Marcio on July 26, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    No, not everything went wrong. It could have been worse. England had to bat first on a dodgy pitch when it was wet and overcast, and India batted last when it was sunny, dry and the pitch was flat and even - a very good batting surface, and with little for spinners. I can't remember the last timeIi saw such a friendly 5th day pitch. India also had some plumb LBW batsmen mysteriously allowed to bat on in that last innings. I see why they don't want the technology brought in.

  • on July 26, 2011, 11:03 GMT

    If only Viru was fit.. Zak has jst started to get his rhythm back but the hamstring injury rendered him unfit.. I'm sure India wil bounce back.. Entertainment is guaranteed..

  • SKKNair on July 26, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    Even before the start of the match it was clear that the main difference is bowlers... and then India lost their main bowler and left with 3 bowlers...i would say 2 bowler considering the pitch... That's a big boost for England morale... they just need to hang in there knowing India will run out of options.... I think that was the main difference in this match... KP managed to come out the his dry run just because of that. Given the situation for the last day, me as a cricket lover, I was expecting a mouth-watering act of perseverance from the great 3 veterans...

  • Rumonfire on July 26, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    Should agree MSD has been a very fortunate captain all this while... I believe this is the first time so many misfortune struck him so badly in a single match..... Its quite difficult to play a five day match with so many injuries even if its not to your key players... N this is your no.1 Strike bowler and 2 main batsmen....

  • on July 26, 2011, 10:49 GMT

    Despite the drubbing at somerset , the two new bowlers i.e. PK and IS performed exceptionally and it augurs well for the tests to come when they have the support they need and vindicate the promise shown in this test..go India!

  • on July 26, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    It wasnt a war nobody died. Relax chaps. I dont have sky so i havnt seen much of the Indian team. But here are a couple of observations. The whole England squad look like athletes, they have strength and conditioning coaches and if they dont make the grade they are sent back to there counties with a flea in there ear. The Indian kit suppliers either make there shirts too small or they dont look fit. To posh to push superstars I suspect, and the coach doesnt have the clout to stamp it out. Dont be suprised when they get injured or look knackered during a game. Back to back test matches is realy gonna stretch them. Too much reliance on the reputation of superstar batsmen who they think will always get them out of trouble. And a spinner who no longer seems up to test cricket. Apart from that they competed well and at least took the game to the last session. Expect harder pitches to play on. But at least your seam bowlers did a good job when a man down. Expect england to win.

  • on July 26, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    I think Yuvraj should open for india in Typical Sehwag style...... Becoz... our defensive opening give them chance to attack.........

  • CricketingStargazer on July 26, 2011, 10:43 GMT

    England also had a new ball bowler with an injury. Chris Tremlett was far from fit, but managed to take vital wickets even when struggling. Great sides show greatness by overcoming problems (e.g. Malcolm Marshall bowling out England despite a broken thumb and a hand in a plaster cast). If you go in with 4 bowlers you either need an identified back-up option, or to have bowlers with some grit who can get through niggles. In hindsight, sending in your key new ball bowler with almost no match practice in the whole year (less than 60 overs) was not a brilliant move. It may not also be beside the point that Swann and Pietersen *did* get turn, sometimes big turn. You don't expect a pich to turn square on Day 2, but on Day 4 you would hope that a genuinely world-class spinner would do something with a surface that was giving some assistance. Would Anil Kumble have been so inoffensive? Where the match was lost though was offering declaration bowling on Day 4, giving England extra time to bowl.

  • Prakhs on July 26, 2011, 10:40 GMT

    I think Dhoni should concentrate more on contributing with the bat instead of worrying about the players being fit or not. Players fitness is not in his hands. India not only requires Dhoni managing the team but also want him as a batsmen. Had he stayed there for 10-20 overs more the picture would have been different. Its not always the top order's responsibility to win-draw matches, Dhoni should have taken on the responsibility on his shoulders. Remember the great Steve Waugh, all his match winning innings were in crisis situations thats why we call him great. There is scope of learning for you as well Dhoni.

  • on July 26, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    If KP is the wicket for Yuvi .... What about SRT and Anderson ....

    In Ashes I thought it would be difficult for Aussies to get 20 English wickets and by far Australian Bowling Attack is better then the Indians....

    As long as Indian batting is concerned I think one overcast day will be good enough for England to bundle out Indians.....

    If India cannot survive (on a pretty flat track) how come they can coupe the Trent Bridge ....

    To be honest India will lose the series 3 - Nil as there is no way they can bowl out England cheaply....

  • consciousindividual on July 26, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    I would really like to know what is the problem with Robin Uttappa not being selected on the Indian team? Apart from Sewag and Yuvaj Sighn, he is a the other bold and explosive batman I've seen lately. This is an individual who should be on any T20/One Day and groomed under Sachin, Raul to be a competent Test Batsman.I certainly believe that the Indian Selectors are depriving the team of his all round qualities His out fielding is better tan many of those on the team,a credible wicketkeeper. I was looking forward to seeing him in the Caribbean but was bitterly disappointed.

    Also what has happened to Mohammad Kaif? Is Indian Cricket plagued with insularity as is in the Caribbean?

  • on July 26, 2011, 10:17 GMT

    India vl surely win second match if they vl include Yuvi n Mishra in place of mukund n bhajji. Team must be 1.Sachin 2.Gauti 3.Dravid 4.Laxman 5.Yuvi 6.Raina 7.MSD 8.Mishra 9.Zak/Sreesant 10. PK 11.Ishant.....

  • Fluffykins on July 26, 2011, 10:17 GMT

    No excuses none of this if so and so was fit etc..... India did not rise to the challenge and therefore that should be one of their big concerns but even more is that Trent Bridge will only add to the dramatic return to form of one SCJ Broad.

  • ashish514 on July 26, 2011, 10:13 GMT

    Balumekka- How did it matter the most. Just b'coz it was lords?? Didn't reaching the final matter as much as winning it in both 2003 and 2011?? Didn't Chennai win matter the most after the Mumbai attacks?? Had he failed during the semi final against Pakistan, you would still have said the same thing. The others need to play too, not just Tendulkar.

  • mi_brc on July 26, 2011, 10:08 GMT

    I think Yuvraj in Place of Harbhajan would be perfect for Team India now...Yuvraj is far better bowler/batsmen than bhajji

  • SRT_MSD_VVS on July 26, 2011, 10:01 GMT

    Its no time to get disappointed by the team performance, i am preety satisfied with dhoni's post match saying. U can't win a test match with 8-9 players its not a t20 or odi where a player can change whole course of the match , it requires team effort.

  • arthishvagi on July 26, 2011, 9:57 GMT

    Dhoni deals media in the best way :) these reply given by him is just a act of managing the media properly and convincing them. But the truth is this "TEAM INDIA" is the best ever. number of ppl who lose belief in the team after it loses the 1st test of the series has reduced. many are brave enough to back this team. this is the team which came back from a innings defeat in SA and drew the series. same ll happen here :) for a change india might win the series 2-1 :)

  • Gunners on July 26, 2011, 9:56 GMT

    India shouldnt give excuses, but fact of the matter remains that they were a bowler short from the first day. Zaheer was unplayable while he was there. Anyway, blame for the loss goes to the batsmen. Yuvraj needs to be back for the second test. Atleast, he is assured of one wicket - KP. :)

  • Farukafaj on July 26, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Guys, wait and see. what will be India's position after the Australian tour at the end of this year.. I can see around 4th position only

  • vipulcricmastermind on July 26, 2011, 9:35 GMT

    When india plays to its full potential.. Its hard to beat Team India.. without any doubt england outplayed us in this test.. but as always Team India will bounce back and will win for sure when they play to full potential including Zaheer and Sehwag.. Congrats England on well-desrved victory..

  • on July 26, 2011, 9:26 GMT

    India did not play bad in the 1st test. They did extremely well with just 3 bowlers and without too many options. I am sure from here on India will be hard to beat. Of course they are always slow starters and now they have had the taste of English conditions. I dont think India will take much time to bounce back hard.

  • katwash on July 26, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    India lost the match when Dhoni won the toss!!!

  • on July 26, 2011, 9:15 GMT

    Dhoni and Harbhajan , please make way for others who are more talented than you.

  • P.Srikanth on July 26, 2011, 9:12 GMT

    The English conditions are always tough. As Nasser Hussain pointed out, IPL is spoiling the life of the cricketers as they get very less time between tournaments to nurture. Moreover you need to play frontline cricketers in tour matches and not the ones who are sitting on the bench. Frankly speaking Lords is the easiest among other grounds that are going to play. The ball seams terribly in other grounds and it is going to be tough work for Indians. History says that Trentbridge, Edgbaston, and The Oval have the impression of producing results in 4 days. India will be praying for Sehwag to return soon while England will take the gamble of resting Eoin Morgan and playing an extra bowler in Tim Bresnan for quicker result. God save India......

  • on July 26, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    I don't agree that the team thinks that their batting will win all matches...its the bowlers who have to take 20 wicets and our bowlers have done that a lot of times....thats y we are number 1...... I believe by the end of the series everyone here will hav the answers.....like it happened in south africa, we lost the first and bounced back...expect the same or even better in England!!!

  • Balumekka on July 26, 2011, 8:53 GMT

    Once again it was proven that SRT is not the same super hero when it matters most. Dravid and Laxman, although frequently underrated, are easily the best when it comes to delivering under pressure.

  • cricology on July 26, 2011, 8:46 GMT

    Don't blame Sachin that he can't bat under pressure bla bla bla. Everybody has got a special attribute. Sachin's forte is to bat flambountly and not staying hours and hours to save a game. Now you'll say then why he is called the greatest. Well, he never said himself that. People proclaimed him to be. In fact nobody is greatest. Sachin is a wonderful player coz he has more strengths than weakness. So is Dravid, Ponting, Kallis.

    Somebody said Laxman is over rated. Others said Dravid must be kicked out. Well, then do it. And then we will come to know what the future IPL stars did for India. LOL

  • Nirmal250187 on July 26, 2011, 8:40 GMT

    We will Win this Series Definitely. No Doubt about that.At the Same time Sachin Will Finish his 100th Century in 2nd test Itself.We Couldn't Give Big Opening Without Shewag. So We Need Shewag. All the Best to Team India for Upcoming Matches.

  • on July 26, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    England will win the series 3 - Nil ....

    No way India can get their 20 wickets as we saw in the Lords test

  • kingishere on July 26, 2011, 8:27 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni that everything which could go wrong has gone wrong. He did the right thing by putting England in to bat first after winning the toss. But things starting going against him from the point when Zaheer got injured till the Tendulkar's sickness to Gambhir's Injury. Everybody know's what Sachin can do when he is fully fit. But for me it was Gautham Gambhir's injury that had a big impact coz he is just a class act. Insha-Allah things will only change for better from here on for us. I was disappointed with Bhajji though. On a same wicket Muralidharan would not have been a stock bowler. Murali was an attacking bowler on any wicket. Same was Kumble or Saqlain Mustaq. I dont know why Bhajji becomes very defensive too quick in the game. We need to find an attacking spinner on any wicket to continue our dominanace as worlds number 1 team. On last thing England had not outplayed India but the situations that arised did. India is much better team than England in any format.

  • on July 26, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    Sounds like a man with very little confidence going forward and that is what the team can do without right now...

  • on July 26, 2011, 8:18 GMT

    Please stop blaming the pitch,circumstance or injuries.We always tell lame excuses every time we lose a match.But when we win ,will we agree if the opponet say the same things like us.Our cricketers are matured not school kids.The whole world is watching us .Pakistan dropped Sachi four times in a world cup semi final match,but they did not give excuses for their loss.Australia lost the world cup again no excuse was given.We are No 1 team,we should try to maintain that status.

  • on July 26, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    No more excuses Mr.Dhoni.. India lost bcos of bad batting line up. not bcos of bowling.. Hope 2nd test match has good batting line up. Drp mukund and bring Yuvi.. Yuvi could bowl and he has been batting well against England.. so have dravid open the bat with gambir. sachin on 3rd, yuvi on 4th, raina on 5th.. best of luck..

  • ArMd on July 26, 2011, 8:14 GMT

    Don't worry guys India will win the second test if not then 3rd test for sure :)

  • on July 26, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    All said and done, a number 1 is said to be number 1 if they manage to fight against such odds. Unfortunately, the Indian batsmen's shot selection on the last day was utterly poor.

  • crishantha_n on July 26, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    Having only one strike bowler, how can India be ranked number 1? Stupid ranking.

  • on July 26, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    y the hell are they still playing harbajan when he has proved in all the test he played this year tht hes ineffective...y not a chance for mishra?? Was Zaheer not sure whether he was fit to play..?? y isnt Sachin playin a valuable innings when the team needs him to..??? The only positive i could find in this team was the hard work done by Praveen Kumar and Ishant Sharma..they bowled well and got wickets at good intervals but MSD didnt use them well...even if zaheer isnt fit sreesanth and muaf were still availible..y not play them...Sree is also a very good swing bowle.. And the Fact is Sachin has to be replaced in the team.. Yuvi has got the capability to hold an innings to the last moment.y not him??.These comments are worthless to b published coz its not going into the selectors heads..But lets hope for a better performance from the indian team..

  • Tatsache on July 26, 2011, 7:57 GMT

    number one team should not depend only over batting,If batting fails sure india lose the game,Indian bowling sholud improve for second test,any way Indian batting will rock in the next match ;)

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    Dhoni is hiding behind excuses. Zaheer should not have played the test if he was unfit. The players who came into the test were out because they played the IPL and didn't get even a Ranji game before the test. No match practice for top two batsmen and the strike bowler cost the match.

  • Sri1967 on July 26, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    Hello Team India....Bad luck...This is a good wake up call to select best team based on conditions. It's not easy to use the same guys whom you use in home conditions to play in England, Australia and England. It's true we need seniors but they too need to take a break pave way for new commers to get confidence else you'll will go the same path that other Asian countries have gone.

    Seniors - take a break when you'll are fully fit not while injured and play minimum T20's and ODI's if you want to play TEST cricket. Look @ Aussies, how many of them have said no to IPL, BIG BASH and other money making tournaments.

    All the beast for the next game and hope we'll fire again.

  • LazloWoodbine on July 26, 2011, 7:29 GMT

    The Indian bowling is, and has been for a long time, a "one trick pony" - without Zaheer that cupboard is dreadfully bare. When your new ball bowler barely gets it past 130km it resembles a Saturday League club side, and it's nigh impossible to win from there. Unless you're at home, of course.... As for the batting, the old fear of pace still seems to haunt the Indian batsmen and you can't rely on Tendulkar or Dravid forever. A bit like the Aussies when their Greats retired recently, India will find it very hard I fear to compete in the years ahead.

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:28 GMT

    see wat will happen after sehwag's return to team...

  • aus_sore_losers on July 26, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    @rahulcricindia: very well said. Zak's injury made difference of about 150 runs in first innings and about 100 runs in 2nd inning. if he was fit, we could have easily won the test. not to mention the injury to viru and Sachin's illness. guys showed lot of character. i m too unhappy, but very very satisfied. Sachin will come back strongly, and vvs will as usual score in bulk as series wears on. go on Champions, show the world!!!

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    India can just play and Win the test matches at HOMe ....they cannot survive in bouncy conditions ...so called world no.1

  • ryanblessed on July 26, 2011, 7:22 GMT

    I'm a big fan of MS, but i have to disagree with his point that the turning point was Zaheer's injury. I would suggest the turning point was even earlier than that. It was when he was actually selected to play. With his fitness in doubt, it was too large a gamble. The best side in the world cannot rely on a single bowler, no matter how talented he might be. India's best eleven players may well be better than England's best eleven, but the strength in depth available will, i suspect, be the deciding factor in this series...

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 26, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    strike bowler got injured on the first day...two mainstay batsmen got injured/fell ill on the 3rd n 4th day. a spinner completely out of form.. despite all of this, india fought hard till the final session.. well played boys, we are proud of you. england played well and deserved to win. hoping for cracking contest in coming matches. please no bad blood here.

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    India had enough players to choose from, chose unfit players and suffered. No excuses whatsoever. Choose eleven fit players for the next test match and try to perform well. England was outstanding in all departments(catching???), kept pressure on Indian batsmen and that paid off. Bhajji needs a break. MSD- Bhajji needs to improve his bowling in the nets and not in a test match of importance. As Ganguly commented in his post match presentation let us hope India Will Come back strong. Abhinav Mukund: Most of his dismissals have been inside edge to stumps while trying to drive!!!!! Needs to tighten up in this area.

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:13 GMT

    Great performance from an English team which has Kevin Peterson - from South Africa Johnathen Trott - from South Africa Matt prior- From South Africa... Not sure about others though..

  • Susant146 on July 26, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    Only man who can save this match is RAHUL "THE WALL",because he is very confidence in this match.Only one mistake took India down, but the most embarrassing part is bowling department of India team... MOST EXPERIENCE Harbhajan didn't do anything...& Mr. Cool dhoni need to bat in the test..his average is below 30...worrying singn for India is SACHIN & his fever & Zahir Khan...

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:07 GMT

    Ganguly rightly said Indian team can not be labeled as best team yet coz they won more series at home before gaining no 1 spot. India could only manage 300 + once in West Indies, and here again with so called big guns like Tendulkar, Laxman, Dhoni and Gambhir, India could not cross 300 in both innings. Very disappointed to see them perform this way. Dhoni blamed the pitch, conditions, batsmen not performing because not playing at their slot, plz give me a break, Tendulkar has played 169 test, where he has opened, came at 3 and 4 also. Laxman always play down the order, what happened to him, Dravid was out on 42 in first inning had Strauss hold on to that catch. Remember Australia, they beat every team when they had big guns like Hayden, Gilchrist, Warne etc, playing home or touring. Indian team should accept that that they are still far from being the best test side. I hope India bounce back in 2nd test, for that Dhoni should stop complaining and pick fully fit players.

  • on July 26, 2011, 7:02 GMT

    where the master blaster has gone he was bat ting like a tailender in 2 inning lol

  • khurramsch on July 26, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    as mentioned by other experts india was not well prepared on zaher's part. rest tendulkar & gautham it was accidental so noboday cant do anything? problem for india was that there guns didnt fire same time. e.g. parveen got 5 wickets in 1st inings & didnt fire in 2nd. ishant bowled very well in 2nd but not in 1st. if both fired at same time england would not have scored this much.

  • on July 26, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    Only one of those excuses is truly valid, Zaheer khan was injured on the 1st day, after being clearly the best of the bowlers in the morning session, and that left 3 bowlers. Nothing else is to blame, the batting order is no excuse they are very experienced batsman so it shouldnt affect them too much. Also its india's fault for going in with 4 bowlers, the same cud have happened to england, it is always a risk to go in with only 4 bowlers. Both england and india could use a batting allrounder at 6, just to fill in some overs and cover for injuries. Bhaji is bowling way too many overs and this is because there aren't enuf bowling options. india would have gotten a draw if their batsman showed up. Ghambir, tendulkar and dhoni didnt have enuf impact and laxman failed to capitalize on a good start. Raina did well, Mukund needs to build a big innings, 40-60 isnt enuf

  • jonesy2 on July 26, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    to be fair to india they did lose their only real elite bowler on the first day and even then i thought it was similar to Australia at the oval in 09 where stupid shots cost them from saving a very savable game in the end. but im not happy about india making england look somewhat decent, its a strange look. but having said that it makes me look forward to the summer and know that australia should belt india.

  • abhi_cricinfo on July 26, 2011, 6:41 GMT

    If England face same scenario (Anderson hamstring injury , Cook shoulder injury , Strauss elbow injury and Trott ill), they will lose by innings and 200 runs . PERIOD

  • greatkhan on July 26, 2011, 6:40 GMT

    Great match & as we all know the better team won. I see here that people are blaming Dhoni for not playing properly, Guys we all shud know that Dhoni is a Wicketkeeper, who could bat. But if you see his records he has done exceptionally well in ODIs but in Tests he has not been able to perform consistently, the same applies for Yuvraf, it is very important to understand that Test Cricket is a completely different Ball game. So stop criticizing dhoni. Secondly, i think Munaf shud replace Zaheer if he is unfit. However even if Zaheer is Fit India shud go in with 4 seamers, meaning Ishanth, Praveen, Munaf & Zaheer.

  • sixnout on July 26, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    I guess losing Zak was a serious blow. England would not have been able to score so many runs so quickly. The only thing left is to make sure that we come prepared for the second test. Its probably gonna be a toss between the Giraffe and the Madman. One thing that was consistent during the Gary Kirsten days was the ability of the team to get up after falling down. Hope that spirit is still Intact. Go India Go

  • pka1982 on July 26, 2011, 6:31 GMT

    India should have saved the match yesterday. It was really disappointing to see them crumbling under sustained pressure. They should gamble with Sreesanth in the next test and replace Harbhajan with Mishra. However i think they will do much better in rest of the series and hopefully win it. England is definitely beatable at home.

  • WhoCaresAboutIPL on July 26, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    To an outsider MSD's comments sound like "excuses, excuses, excuses". Winning the toss and "inserting" was meant to make India's target easy. Yes Zed was injured, but Anderson was injured for the second SL innings at Cardiff (yes that one...).

    India fans are putting all their faith in Sehwag, but I am not sure he scores nearly as well on bouncy and seaming pitches, and Lords is traditionally amongst the slowest and lowest England wicket, so that chance has gone. In my view a 2-1 loss by India is the best they can achieve, but I will enjoy the series whatever the result.

  • nuka123 on July 26, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    I think, ZAKS shd be replaced by munaf, and bhajji with amit mishra or yuvi... atleast yuvi will take the same no of wickets like bhajji and he can bat... and y munaf instead of sree because of his control... his deliviries will fetch more nicks than sree...

  • on July 26, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    It has now been a proven fact that India takes some time to acclimatize with the conditions and we can expect them to hit England hard in coming matches. More than the injuries to key players, they were down in morale, understandably so. England to face the music in the next match for sure. Check the records of Team India after first match in all their tours in last 3-4 years Best of Luck to Strauss

  • sehwagalogist on July 26, 2011, 6:19 GMT

    Excuses! Mere Excuses from Dhoni! He knows in his heart this match could easily be drawn had they put in a positive effort... Tendulkar was planning on blocking 80 overs of accurate fast bowling through the day... He might think he has the best defense in the world and may be he is GOD, but he should know it better than anybody else that not even a god could keep blocking all the 480 deliveries remaining in the day and not get out-LBW!!! He proved it again he is a mere mortal when it comes to Test cricket.

  • on July 26, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    bad luck team india,we had only TWO bowlers in that test match,harbhajan was just doing some warmups ,dhoni should bring mishra in place of harbhajan,who looks absolutely out of form,if zaheer isn't fit then bring sreesanth,he deserves a place in playing 11 ,he performed brilliantly in SA,

  • on July 26, 2011, 6:05 GMT

    u coldnt beat us......England iz the best...India cleary bowled over,maybe next time india but I hope Eng win the series 3-1.

  • on July 26, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    Guys Dhoni is always pointing at the top order he himself as batsman he is not performning atall

  • flyingmachinee on July 26, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    bhaji was very dissapointing.........

  • on July 26, 2011, 6:01 GMT

    That one extra bowler who could have made a difference is SREESANTH!! Bring him in and we shall see what happens. But whatever Dhoni says one has to accept that the English were way superior to the Indians in this test!

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    After playing more than 400 test matches between them, Sachin, Dravid and Laxman, captain Dhoni still thinks that the batting order in the second innings did them. C'mon Dhoni players with such an experience shouldn't be a problem for them to bat any number. Don't they bat at different numbers in one dayers and T-20? Lame excuse, Mr. skipper.

  • sherishahmir on July 26, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    Its probably the most wanted series for some quite time, again india scummbed in first test as it happens to asian teams when they start their tour also did happen to India agsinst SA in their last tour, where they come back strongly.

    No worry for India as they they have the talent and ability to win this v competitive seriess, only need to gear up and arrange themselves for rest of series and not allow Eng to have another win. For me the worry for India is their bowling, zaheeer is injured and Harbhajan is not in form, good to c Ishant and PK r performing.

    Disappointment on Tendulkar could nt got his 100th hundred in Lord as probably this is his last Eng tour, what would be honour to a great bat, if he could had that at Lords under his belt, as only he is deserving that honour, i.e 100 centuries in international cricket, goodness me, tribute to him for such.

    To be number one in any sport is an honour and acheivement for India, the important is to maintain the position.

  • noush on July 26, 2011, 5:48 GMT

    Mr. Hasan Cheema, Hope we can meet here after the second test. See you!

  • Talubar on July 26, 2011, 5:47 GMT

    India are always slow starters on overseas tours, especially to England and Australia. They'll bounce back, but they need Zaheer fit and well.

  • shrastogi on July 26, 2011, 5:44 GMT

    The strong Indian batting didnt raise their game a notch to counter english bowling and post a better first innings score even if we accept Dhoni's comments about second innings batting order and vrable bounce. A better first innings would have negated impact of losing Zaheer Khan.Gmabhir, Tendulkar and Dhoni could have batted a lot better and Dravid and Laxman played irresponsible shots in second innings. Anyways there is nothing to gain by criticising as three more tests are to be played. India should try to bounce back. They shouldnt play Zaheer until unless he is 200% fit. Sreesanth looks the best bet to replace him as I have never been a fan of Munaf after he lost pace.

  • Capcom on July 26, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    Hasan Cheema You Are Correct. Their Team Think That Just By Their Batting They Will Win Every Match And If Their Batting Also Fail Then They Will Lose The Match Also.

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    by the look it self , it is clear ZAHEER IS UNFIT , i dont think he wil play in the remaining matches

    but having said that , india played well with three bowlers and fought hard

    if sachin and dhoni played normally we could hav saved the test match

    india will play well in the remaining matches no doubt

  • CaptainBarbossa on July 26, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    Playing with 3 bowlers against a good batting line-up is very very difficult. The pacers get tired more quickly because of the extra workload. Under the circumstances, I think PK and Ishant did very well. Remember these guys are playing in England for the first time. But bhajji was disappointing. I hope Mishra gets a chance in the 2nd test. He bowled very well in the Carribean and deserves a chance.

  • rahulcricindia on July 26, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    i think it is very much favorable time for INDIA haters to criticize us....do not worry we will not give you second chance....so do it as long as you can....and as the fact of the matter is ...we were badly hampered by the zaheer injury..which completely made the difference in the fourth innings lead of england....and misery not ending for INDIA when gambhir was badly injured..and only a batsman can know how difficult it is to bat with one injured hand and SRT was suffering from viral fever...and every person knows how powerless you feel when you are suffering from viral with continuous pain in the body..I am very happy that despite such problems we were able to play almost 100 overs....especially raina playing first test in england ...hats off to TEAM INDIA i am not happy....but satisfied nevertheless.......

  • Joby_George on July 26, 2011, 5:33 GMT

    Shavantha Weerasinghe....Pls remember that SL have never won a test match in india.U can win test only in SL , that too with Murali ans Vaas. What you will do now? you have just 6 test victories against India, where as we have won 14 against you, out of which 6 times we defeated you in SL.

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    Zaheer injury, Gambhir Injury, Sachin fever all these are part of cricketing life. But, not giving good warm up games, still keeping Bhajji in team are all in the hands of Captain, Coach and Management. Dhoni knows acclimatisation is actually a problem but he didn't tell anything during the post-match meeting so, he is also part of culprits. Having said all, We were almost sure that we will be loosing this test match after Prior (my player of the match) innings. All know that given all the injury, fever et al. its really difficult to hang around for 120+ overs...why not give a shot...promote Raina, Dhoni ahead of Laxman, Sachin.... Why don't we go for a win and loose it in the process? What's indian think tank is doing?

  • Test-is-the-best on July 26, 2011, 5:24 GMT

    @ Faizal Hussain - Why r u bringing past records?. India won WC in their home soil in front of home crowd. This is not about One Days. Accept the fact that your team cannot win against World No: 1 today , England.

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:21 GMT

    Well, lost is lost. None to be blamed. India has to come with new strategy. India has ability to overcome the host. Be positive. We are the No.1 in the test ranking. We didn't get that easily. We've world class batting and bowling. Still 3 to go. Cheer up guys. We're always with you. Don't loose any hope. Congrats!

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:21 GMT

    Come on guys no more excuses.. Many times Pakistan lost Shoaib Akhtar got injured in first inngs even after rattling the world's best batting line ups southafrica, newzeland and even against aussies.. We never make excuses we work hard and even won the matches.. We lost the match against England in 2003 in Karachi when thorpe scored ton in the night.. We were one bowler short. You lost your bowler I admit it is loss. But, guys admit your so called batting failed not bowling.. :) So please say Tendulkar was unfit , Gambhir was not feeling good and Sehwag is not in team thats why lost it.. I really like Dravid and I am sure he is the only man who will score more runs from Indian batting lineup.. A really class act.. and bring in Yuvi he is far more better than many others..

  • kurups on July 26, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    No excuses MS...accept defeat with dignity..As much as I want India to win you have to accept that England were head & shoulders above India and played wonderfully well and their bowling attack was relentless..Had england bowled first in seaming conditions,still we would have been bowled out for a cheap 1st innings...and had England batted last, with our deficient bowling attack they would have salvaged a draw. Well done England for this convincing win and good game of cricket.

  • rockz.andy on July 26, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    Guys Calm down one Triple hundred by Sehwag against Englishmen will be the perfect answer for the tour..BTW any news on Sehwag's presence in 2nd or 3rd Test ?

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:15 GMT

    All these are excuses.at the start of day 5 india had to bat 98 overs.even if they batted for 90 overs bad light might have ended play.but they played only for 71 overs.not nearly good enough.nobody except raina fought.i had said earlier that it was wrong for srt,zak and gambhir to skip the w.i tour.and the less said about bhajji and dhoni's performance the better.they have been underperforming(talking strictly of test cricket) for quite some time now.

  • aarpee2 on July 26, 2011, 5:15 GMT

    i believe we were outplayed by England in all departments of the game.The fact that a wicketkeeper bowled a long spell on the first day of a crucial test series when the opposition was on the backfoot tells its own story.Man to man Swann looked to be in a different class compared to Bhajji who is looking mor and more pedestrian and with no fresh ideas even to contain let alone strike.Harbhajan's cavalier approach to batting and his attude and dismissals displayed a lack of commitment to the teams cause.The only factor that could have made a difference to India was Zaheer's presence otherwise there was a visible lack of a team effort in all aspects.Praveen,Ishant,Rahul,Mukund,VVS and Raina performances however give hope for improved performance in the second test when the others hopefully will pull up their for a better all round team effort. We can still turn the tables with a better tactical approach to individual palyers in the oposition.

  • RajitD on July 26, 2011, 5:13 GMT

    Dhoni needs to be strong and drop Bhajji - a passenger for really long. The Poms cant play leg spin, and Amit Mishra would be a welcome addition. Also, no point in rushing Zak. Play Sree and hope he turns good. Dont write off this team just yet. Dont have to look too far back to see the resurgence this team is capable of.

  • thegoodgame on July 26, 2011, 5:13 GMT

    I think 'blaming' is different from 'reasoning'. Dhoni has tried to reason out India's performance. Yes we lost, but without the injuries and illness it could have been different. And to have 3 of them together is a disaster. But it was not as if India were beaten black and blue - even with the depleted bowling we had England on the ropes in the second innings. Dravid, Raina, Laxman, Mukund all got 50's; Praveen and Ishant got their rythm going - so I think its not the end of the world - India will come back! It was a rivetting game of test cricket and the paying public got their monies worth. So hurray to cricket and Nottingham here we come!

  • sivakumarreddy on July 26, 2011, 5:08 GMT

    dhoni s absolutely true, with absence of zaheer, then sachin and gambhir not well, in a flat track with harbhajan, u cant win a match with a 7 players in a team against any home side team

  • rambo94 on July 26, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    Dhoni was right about a few points, losing your pace spearhead on the first day is never a good thing and the illness and injuries to players in second innings certainly affected their output. But credit should also be given to the England team for outplaying India in almost all the three departments (though catching was a bit bad).India performed well only in patches through the game, whereas Eng dominated mostly. Dhoni should also assess that their body language on field was very disappointing.... But I hope that this is just one of those late-starters syndrome and wears away quickly..Expect a keen contest in the next match.All the best India...

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    we missed shewag this match!!!!!!

  • Mannix16 on July 26, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    And people said England would get whitewashed.... Most Indian fans do not watch any other cricket other than their country's and don't know how strong the other teams are in other countries. England was weak as hell in '05 (other than that Ashes brilliance). England today are a force to reckon with in the Test Arena. They also drew a series in South Africa and trounced the Aussies in Australia.

  • Vernacular_Press on July 26, 2011, 5:02 GMT

    Come on guys, we are no.1 team.Didnt Australia lose to mediocre indian team in 2001. Any team can win but only Champion team can bounce back.India will.

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    Game pressure as well as "HAVE TO WIN" poured pressure on Indian side. Pressure of losing No.1 spot lead to LOSS of 1st test. Sometimes failure is required to boost up. Next time I hope this team will learn from this defeat to win the series. All players giving their 100% and for sure India can win the series. Dhoni might be working on this soon after he retured to pavilion in the 2nd innings. CHEER UP INDIA!!! Show the world we are CHAMPIONS.. SL fans are very much exited now. Its natural as India have beaten them BRUTALLY in WC finals.. lolssssssss

  • on July 26, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    In my Opinion Sachin should be dropped for the rest of the series bcoz he is not a match saver like dravid nor a match winner like laxman or sehwag in tests.In the recently held world cup2011 final also he got early and it was left to dhoni,gambhir to conquer the world cup after 28 years. India have lost the test on 2nd ocassion after dravid scoring his33rd test hundred,that means Indiahave eitherdrawnthe test or won it on other 31 ocassions.

  • dipayan6 on July 26, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    It was disappointing to see the batsmen fail but it would be foolhardy to read too much into this performance. India lost the first test...there are three more coming up. I am sure they will be back and in light of recent performances this team will not give in without a fight.

  • ACHILLES_FZX on July 26, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    Our bowlers lack the killer instinct ,how much should we rely on one bowler ,in the second innings when england were 62/5 india should have got them all out before 150 and I am specially disappointed with bhajji who being a senior bowler should have attacked from the outset kumble would never have let the england settle after the initial wobble in 2nd innings

  • on July 26, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    India deserve this massive defeat against the best Test team in the world. They have been putting up mediocre performances since a long time except on few occasions on tailor made home dust bowls. During their recent tour they proved that they were slightly better than the 7th ranked West Indies and that their actual rank should have been SIXTH. Here before the Test started, they knew very well the conditions of the pitch, the fitness levels and capabilities of their players and the strength of the opposition yet they went with just four bowlers. Zaheer's lack of fitness is well known yet one wonders how they could afford to select him as a mere spectator for such an important series. And one had to witness all those Dhoni's gimmicks-he wants to prove the world that he can also bowl, instead of first proving that he can keep the wickets properly (look at those fundamental errors of his step movements which led to dropping of two easy catches) and his continued failures as a batsman.

  • Bajcloony on July 26, 2011, 4:57 GMT

    I don't agree with all the above comments, but I agree that overall England played better cricket and deserved to win the match but they despite of all the injuries and bad luck team india stretched this match till the very end and another partenership of 1 more hour could have saved the match so I still beleive that this team has a great fighting spirit and will come back strongly in the next matches but the absence of Sehwag & Zaheer Khan will be e big factor in the outcome of this sereies, I still believe that If Sehwag & Zaheer can play the last 2 test matches even at 90% fitness level thatn India can certainly level this series, winning will be difficult.

  • bobagorof on July 26, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    India faced adversity in this match - will be interesting to see how they bounce back. But as for not adjusting to the conditions (swing, bounce, etc)... perhaps the side needs more practice matches?

  • strategic_blunder on July 26, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    Part 3 of 3 ..... C) Another explanation of this phenomenon could be with the help of statistics. India batted 96.3 overs @ 2.70 runs per over in the second innings and acquired 261 runs (England was batting @ 3.78 rpo). Now, if India was batting with a bit more aggressiveness, then their run- rate be closer to England's second innings and be causing serious headache to Strauss & co. Might have affected the rhythm of the bowlers. Entirely plausible from 'the best batting line-up in the world'.

    All this aggressiveness might have still yielded a draw but at-least it would've been more satisfying than a limp loss. What the heck, an aggressive loss would've been more savoured than a limp one and enhanced team India's reputation. An improbable win could've been a bonus.

    A lingering question and the inspiration behind this critique is, does this much acclaimed Indian batting line-up wants to go out with a bang or a whimper?

    Part 3 of 3

  • strategic_blunder on July 26, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    Part 2 of 3 ..... 4. MOST IMPORTANTLY, India missed a trick, which I believe cost them the game more so than anything else. They went into a cocoon of unnatural defensiveness, in the 2nd innings, which consequently sealed their fate. This mindset also made the opposition bowlers look far more threatening. The reason I say this is because A) the pitch/weather conditions had changed dramatically from the initial phase and eased in general (variable bounce aside), a prime example of this being the partnership between Prior and Broad in the 2nd innings. Sun was shining throughout 4th day onwards and a heavy roller was used for India (for 7 mins) which had further eased the pitch; B) India didn't capitalize on the psychological advantage which they gained from the Chennai test (I know its an old 2008 test, but is important as it was the second last test between the two countries prior to Lord's in which India prevailed on a far more challenging 5th day Chennai pitch; ..... Part 2 of 3

  • strategic_blunder on July 26, 2011, 4:49 GMT

    Part 1 of 3

    Excellent win by England and a thoroughly enjoyable 2000th test. Would like to comment on couple of things:

    1. Agree with the fact that, in general, the English bowling was significantly superior to India's depleted attack.

    3. England's batting had more grit and purpose, however, less pressure to deal with throughout.

    4. Agree with Dhoni that a majority of things were working against the Indian team such as Zak down due to his hammy (arguably this situation couldve been avoided), Gauti & Tendu down due to injury and sickness respectively and consequent shuffling of the batting order, three bowler attack losing steam at critical junctures (such as Ishant not bowling immediately after lunch on day 4; wont bag Bhajji's performance as Swann was no prize either, just more aggressive due to the run cushion).

    .....

    Part 1 of 3

  • Pathiyal on July 26, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    english players really played fantastically....except for a few mishaps in the fielding which fortunately for them didnt prove costly. hope msd and team will bounce back rather than resorting to silly excuses. india missed a gr8 opportunity to win at lords from day 1 itself.

  • Asokkumar on July 26, 2011, 4:43 GMT

    India need to think seriously on spin bowler, Right now no.1 indian spinner will be Ashwin who perform whenever he ask to bowl compare to harbajan singh... 2nd Test match India shd replace H.Singh with Y.Singh he can bowl better than him...

  • crickstats on July 26, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    I think Bhajji should turn to left-arm spinner, India's No.1 spot is rather puzzling, they didn't win their overseas tours to Sri Lanka and South Africa, having beaten Bangladesh and West Indies, they have won at home, but England on the other hand hasn't lost a series and won in Australia, at this rate India will come down in the rankings pretty soon, if weather allowed full play in all tests, India will lose 4-0

  • kriskini on July 26, 2011, 4:36 GMT

    @bollo .I think you got me. But not on 2007-2008 series which India down by 1-2 had a chance to square the series in the 4th and last test. But 2004 against Australia we lost the 4 test series by 3rd test 2-0. Here its is again In 11 years India lost a test series before the final test only once.

  • on July 26, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    as suggested India is a gracious team...though there are a few areas of concern..Bhajji being the prominent one. I dont't know how swann was spinning the bowl when bhajji cudn't. I remeber harbhajan quoting in an article that the era of truning the bowl for spinners is over, its more about bounce and drift. with that sort of an attitude its difficult to trouble the batsman. And again these unfit players being carried along are as good as any debutants..at the end of the day ur more confident when u have ur regular 11 on the field...

  • Balajipost on July 26, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    It is fair to say India's chances of winning became negligible once they were reduced to three bowlers. But, India brought the defeat on themselves by batting poorly. No point in denying this. Among all these things, one Mr Dhoni batted in his usual position in both the innings.

    No excuses. Better say you were not prepared enough / apply enough and walk away. That would be more respectable. BTW, I am an Indian fan and not a biased one...

  • nikhilbengeri on July 26, 2011, 4:31 GMT

    Well it was not a good feeling to lose the first test at Lords. But the situation was not so conducive to Indians. But I'm sure the Indians are gonna come back hard for the Second Test. Lets wish them good luck. But mind you, Indians have not become no. 1 just by a fluke. They hav played some very gud hard cricket to reach there. All the best Team India.

  • rustyryan on July 26, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    Aaaaaaaaah Drop Bajji at least for one test and then bring him back. He needs a break. Surely he ll be a better bowler then.

  • Amitbajare on July 26, 2011, 4:20 GMT

    EVERYTHING SAID AND DONE..... INDIA PLAYED POORLY THROUGHOUT THE TEST... THE BLAME SHOULD GO TO IPL... IT IS EXHAUSTING PLAYERS AND INJURING THEM... WE HAD SO MANY INJURIES DUE TO IPL.. SEHWAG, GAMBHIR, ZAHEER ETC PLAYERS AND BCCI ARE MAKING MONEY AT THE COST OF NATIONAL PRIDE

  • vatsmanoj on July 26, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    Yes there was circumstances against india which cause this failure but we cant take credit away from eng team they played well specially matt prior in both inngs he took the match out of indian grip but surely india will bounce back and moreover india did good in 4th inng to last for alsmost ninty over that is one full day so its hope for the best in future

  • Chennaionline on July 26, 2011, 4:14 GMT

    @SnowSnake you are correct. Dhoni and Bhajji are just extra baggage in the flight which carries them. Dhoni's unorthodox shots only suits for ODI. Bhajji survives due to his earlier achievement. Rahul improved from the last tour, but Bhajji still the same. Most of the batsman were out due to poor shot selection and blaming the pitch is not going to heal a Indian fan like me heart. Hope at least next match they play well and sustain in No:1 spot. Good luck Guys....

  • pappu_saala on July 26, 2011, 4:13 GMT

    One man who's responsible for India being No.1 in tests is missing in action .. Sehwag. Guess what 454 is not a declare-able total if he's in the side ... am sure Strauss would have wanted 550+. A good test match, indian batsmen didn't show much purpose .. IPL fatigue or whatever, you just don't give up without a fight!! The No.1 test team's swagger was missing though-out the test..

  • Aussie_Mike on July 26, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    If Eng win the series they wiil be the new no.1. what's wrong with that ? Indian Batsmen didn't fail, Indian bowlers failed yet again. Dhoni was not wrong in his decisions, things didn't go as planned.The team that played better over 5 days won. Simple. Enjoy Cricket, don't be partisan in your comments.

  • asinghania on July 26, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    India 2nd innings failure can be attributed to shots played by our batsmen & none played by Sachin. Laxman was pushing the ball in air every now and then....Dravid was not able to play any ball pitched just outside the off stump...and sachin, god knows what happened to him...was not trying to play at all. And can we get in Ashwin instead of harbhajan...

  • Jay_N on July 26, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    While I was watching the match, heard Harsha saying in the comm box "IT'S NOT THE SIZE OF THE DOG IN A FIGHT, IT's SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN A DOG" probably he can say this to the Indian team can't blame Dhoni alone.

  • on July 26, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    IT WAS NOT TO BLAME ANYONE FOR LOOSING THIS TEST MATCH VS ENG. THE PLAYERS WHO PLAYED IN WINDIES TOUR PLAYED EXTREMELY WELL.PRAVEEN AND DRAVID ESPECIALLY. LOSING ZAHEER WAS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR INDIA. IT IS NOT THAT INDIA ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM AGAINST ENG. THE MAIN PROBLEM WAS THAT INDIA DID NOT HAVE BATTING AND LOSING ZAHEER KHAN!!!

  • praume2001 on July 26, 2011, 4:00 GMT

    We will hit back..We hv history of loosing first test and coming frm behind..even this time we will...Eng had their share of luck against a team of 8 players..with Gambhir Sachin & Zak not fully fit..Still we gave a scare of ur life..and we almost let it go..Remember English fans..We hv not lost a series in Eng since last 15yrs and unbeatable(series) newhere in world since last 3yrs..Dont get too over excited b4 the end of the series... U will fall on ur face.. just wait and watch..

  • getsetgopk on July 26, 2011, 3:54 GMT

    All the 'Walls' and the 'Gods' and the coolest captain ever couldn't save india from a crushing defeat in the historic landmark 2000th test match. Indian batting lineup is the most over rated and over hyped. Indian strenghth is batting and it was zaheer that got injured so what went wrong with the batting?? Indians couldnt score past 300 in both their innings not even with 5 dropped cathes. Tendulkar as usual fails when his team needs him most even ghambir played better than tendulkar. both bhaji and dhoni are useless test cricketers. both cant bat and cant bowl either. i dont see this indian team winning any thing against England.

  • Rahulbose on July 26, 2011, 3:54 GMT

    Making excuses like this just makes it worse. It was a decent pitch for day 5 and Indians should have been able to bat out a day. The problem was the middle order legends apart from Dravid did not play up to their names.

  • on July 26, 2011, 3:44 GMT

    Shavantha Weerasinghe....... how about India winning WC against SL. stop saying nonsense........India can bounce back.. All the best India

  • Vishal_07 on July 26, 2011, 3:42 GMT

    Indian batting lineup failed completely in this match. They better show up next time.

  • Sinhaya on July 26, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    Bhaji must be dropped if he fails in the next 2 tests. India must be mindful that they were lucky to get LBW reprieves. Cant cite Zaheer's absence as an excuse when in the 3rd test with West Indies, Ravi Rampaul could not bowl for a while due to injury allowing India to score freely in the 1st innings.

  • on July 26, 2011, 3:35 GMT

    Every Indian is talking about that they always lost first on away tour... I am wondering how they will make excuses after loosing 2nd test...

  • CricketisKing on July 26, 2011, 3:32 GMT

    It is silly blaming the reshuffle of the batting order. These are professionals at the top of the ladder and the No.1 team in the world. The batsmen upto No. 7 should be able to bat in any position. Most of them have played in different positions. This is a cop-out excuse. All I can say after watching the match is they did not play like the No. 1 team in the world. A No. 1 team should be able to adjust to any calamity. Hopefully they will come back strong in the other tests.

  • donda on July 26, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    We all know who is the culprit, it's IPL. All the injured and rested players got injured because of IPL fatigue. IPL is good for cricket as a whole but it's bad for test players.

    England played well and India did not, my man of the match is Mat Prior , his 100 in second innings change the whole match.

    England won it and india lost it not because of players but because of IPL.

  • fearless69 on July 26, 2011, 3:15 GMT

    @desiboy454 - I absolutely agree.. What if england's lead bowler Anderson gets injured on the 1st day? What if Cook is out of the test? What if Trott gets injured during the match? What if Pietersen suffers from viral fever? in the same test match.. It does make a difference.. And to those english die hard fans, this ain't an excuse.. This can happen with england aswel.. Clear your doubts, india will come back strongly.. England played well against the wounded tigers, they took the advantage & they deserved win.. But now there won't be any loose cricket.. All the best.. Go India Go!!

  • on July 26, 2011, 3:07 GMT

    None to blame..You have to say they are not good enough against this England team!

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 26, 2011, 3:07 GMT

    Great, now people are coming out and giving advices to Indian team. India did so and so mistakes but if India had drawn this match then everyone would have changed their comments. Some persons are even advising to blood young players into the Indian team. I accept India performed badly but no one expected such poor batting display from great players of India and such a good bowling from Indian bowlers in first test match. ENG bowling looked impressive and better only on 5th day. I can definitely say that at the end of 4th day ENG didn't expect they were going to win this match.

  • himanshu.team on July 26, 2011, 3:07 GMT

    To a great extent what Dhoni said is true. If you are playing with 4 bowlers and the spearhead among them gets injured in the first innings, you really dont have a chance to win a test match against a quality side. On top of it, Sachin getting ill on 4th day and Gambhir getting hit the same day, affected our batting adversely. However, if dravid, laxman and Dhoni himself had batted a little better, India could have saved this test. that in my opinion would have been as good as winning, given the circumstances. However, now we are back to familiar teritory. India going down on first test of an away series. Now it remains to be seen if they can bounce back as they have done in the past.

  • cheese86 on July 26, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    @krazycricketkid mate i think you should consider a few facts before you hand out such rediculous predictions such as you have just lost your number 1 bowler in zaheer, you will not have sehwag back for the next test, gambier is horribly out of form as is dhoni and harbs!! please would you so kindly tell me how india are going to claw there way back into this series? i will remind you that in south africa you had a full strength squad!!

  • Bollo on July 26, 2011, 2:51 GMT

    @kriskini. I think you'll find India have lost test series before the final test twice to Aus in the last decade - 2004 in India, and 2007/08 in Aus.

  • Spin_rules on July 26, 2011, 2:34 GMT

    As good a captain Dhoni is in ODIs & T20s, he leaves much to be desired in tests. Numerous faux pas in the test: Defensive fields on the first morning (having only 2 slips and a sweeper), no shortleg for KP who play Ishant accross, no effort to slow the run rate towards the end of both ENG innings, not pursuing with Ishant right after lunch on day4. As innovative as he is in ODIs and T20s...he has long way to go before he becomes a better test captain than Ganguly.

  • Praxis on July 26, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    ...& if someone tells me that right now INDIA don't have 2/3 spinners better than Harbhajan Singh, then I guess Malcolm Marshall never bowled any bouncer in his life!

  • KPN84 on July 26, 2011, 2:24 GMT

    All we need is the best eleven. It's been long time that Harbhajan is not performing. He need a break for sure. In tracks like Lords Yuvraj and do something with bat and ball. Will make sure that we are going with right eleven in coming test

  • KPN84 on July 26, 2011, 2:20 GMT

    All we need is the best eleven. It's been long time that Harbhajan is not performing. He need a break for sure. In tracks like Lords Yuvraj and do something with bat and ball. Will make sure that we are going with right eleven in coming test

  • sri1ram on July 26, 2011, 2:06 GMT

    No doubt, India were comprehensively beaten by a superior side. But we are failing to look at the positives here. 1. Over-reliance on Zaheer as our enforcer is bad, am sure Indians have realized it fully now. 2. We lost the first match in really demanding conditions for our bowlers (Yes, England played better in more demanding terms, but their familiarity with the conditions offsets that) Ishant and PK learned to use their strengths as the match progressed. Even Bhajji became visibly better, though Munaf would have been a better option. 3. We have not played a good test team in a while and our patchy performance sunk us. KP's double century and the Broad-Trott partnership were avoidable, our bowling strategies need to be tuned a lot finer. I like to believe everyone have learned their lessons 4. Our youngsters need this initiation by fire, for the future. They can keep watching & allowing the trio to bail them out, but such lessons are barely learned outside tough test competition

  • indianpunter on July 26, 2011, 2:04 GMT

    Losing Zaheer Khan in the first session of a test math meant that India was behind the 8 ball and on the backfoot already. Injury and illness to key players meant that there was no way india could win this test. But we should have put up a better fight and tried to draw this. How many times have we seen this and how many more times will we see this? ie , The lack of preparation that costs india the 1st test of the series. It beggars belief that there was only 1 practice game before the start of a marquee series. Zaheer too was clearly injured and shouldnt have played this test. But, India will get better as the series goes on. Chak De !!

  • venjal on July 26, 2011, 1:56 GMT

    I totally surprised, Tendulkar didn't play like Tendulakar in both the innings. Many time he was beaten by Temlet and in the second innings by Broad. I expected he could play like Peterson or Prior in second innings but that wasn't the case. What happened to you Master.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on July 26, 2011, 1:37 GMT

    I think having a younger sub on the field for a 38 yr old and a generally poor fielder for most of the 2nd innings was also a slight advantage so.... In general when you get thumped by more than 100 runs or 2 wkts, excuses are pretty weak.

  • Nerk on July 26, 2011, 1:30 GMT

    You would think this kind of stuff has never happened on the cricket field before. It doesn't explain the dropped catches, it doesn't explain the general sloppiness of the field.Certainly doesn't explain the loose shots.

  • on July 26, 2011, 1:26 GMT

    This is what happens when we start having too much hope on an ordinary team with media hype remember all those talks on "Every thing that Dhony touches turns to gold " where is that now? india can only be the best within India and may be when they play Bangladesh and no where else

  • sankar8000 on July 26, 2011, 1:14 GMT

    Without Sehwag Indian team is clearly not better than England team! The 2nd test also India may not win but can try for a draw!

  • KrazyCricketKid on July 26, 2011, 1:10 GMT

    Guys, this is all normal for India. India always loses the first test on an away tour. So dont get worried about India's performance. Just look at the South Africa series, India lsot the first test than came back strongly in the second and third. India will destroy England in the remaining three tests, just WAIT AND WATCH. Beware England!

  • krazzyking on July 26, 2011, 1:05 GMT

    no matter.... India always screws up the first test of any series... and they are not dominators... most series thay give the other team a chance... look at the last series against WI... If it were Aus, they would have steamrolled WI, but Ind like to be the gracious team :)

  • SnowSnake on July 26, 2011, 1:01 GMT

    I sympathize with India, but still India did lose this test match due to poor performance. If India had batted better then it could have drawn the test despite Zaheer's injury. Dhoni and Bhajji are dead weight on the team. They haven't been performing for long time. Gambhir is performing worse than A. Mukund. The loss was well deserved and there should not be any excuses.

  • JustOUT on July 26, 2011, 0:57 GMT

    Mr.Dhoni.. can u remind me ur match saving test match innings in past 3 yrs. Better go back to ranji and score some runs. If India needs you just for your captaincy, then India is short of a batsman.

  • KarachiKid on July 26, 2011, 0:53 GMT

    Well Zaheer Khan's injury was really the key. But two things, Dhoni is always talking like that when India lose, calling it bad umpiring, bad luck, injuries, bad conditions. Common man, you are number 1 team in the world. And I think it does not make you smaller when you also praise the opponents !!! Dhoni, though a great player and a great captain, has to be a little more positive....

  • AvidCricFan on July 26, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    Zaheer should not be in the playing eleven until he is match fit. His fitness can only be proven if gets to play few domestic matches. The best option for the team is to send him back home. Nehra or RP can be picked in his place. Zaheer's fitness is a big liability specially when India plays only four bowlers. Bhajji's place in the team outside of subcontinent needs to be thought through by selectors. His performance was ordinary. Mishra or Ohja could have done better.

  • kriskini on July 26, 2011, 0:42 GMT

    From 11 years India has never lost a test series before the final test. That is why they are #1. They just lost the first test here not a WORLDCUP FINAL!!!!!!!!

  • Venki_indian on July 26, 2011, 0:41 GMT

    @kaze its funny how english fans and media are talking;Never mind losing this match. India did a great job after losing Zaheer on first day..always difficult for any team to lose a player in the middle of the match, England cashed on it. they managed well with 2 bowlers, with harbhajan struggling. india will come back strongly in 2nd test match. But india should have done better on 5th day.

  • on July 26, 2011, 0:40 GMT

    Reality bites hard, and India 's defeat in this Test surely marks the beginning of another downturn. We have been lucky to get out of jail a few times over the last few years, but lack of fitness all around, slowing reflexes of the 35+ brigade, and pathetic spinning resources are now glaringly obvious. The problem is there is no one better at home, except perhaps Ashwin as a spinner. England will deservedly get the # 1 ranking with SA,SL and Pak (yes, Pakistan !!) close behind, India # 5.

  • Meety on July 26, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    England played very good cricket, India were sound & had some setbacks, but didn't lift. Losing Zaheer on Day 1 was obviously a blow. It becomes a bit of conjecture as to what a fully fit Zaheer's impact on the game would of been. My feeling is that England probably would of still made 400+ in their 1st innings & India would still have been bundled out less than 300. The interesting thing is what Zaheer would of done when Ishant was bowling India back into the game. I think the net effect is that England probably would of had to bat a bit longer to get their 450 lead. I don't buy into the disrupted batted line up issues. India are pro's & should of been able to adapt - although I have seen changes to a batting line up cause disruption in the past. In the end England were better & got the win they needed. With a bit more spine, India could of saved the match. Nil all, & I would say that India would of been favoured to win or draw the series. 2-1 England.

  • avssrs on July 26, 2011, 0:31 GMT

    @ Sayantan Bhattacharya

    "And barring the big 3, none of the other batsmen are fit to be test batsmen." What nonsense. Batsmen like Tendulkar, Dravid, and Laxman come along once in several generations. We should take the youngsters we have and give them an opportunity instead of writing them off just because they're not as good as some all-time greats.

    "Gautam Gambhir needs to evaluate his position in the cricket team. If as a full-timer opener, you are being overlooked from opening in the second innings" What are you talking about? Did you even watch the game? Gambhir was injured and it's a credit to him that he even batted.

    And although India got the wrong end of the stick a few times in this match, England deserve full credit for playing really well and grabbing most opportunities.

  • on July 26, 2011, 0:24 GMT

    I really dont get it... When they (INDIA) loose, so many REASONS are there...if everything went right, they would have won!?!(wouldnt that be the case with all teams?) It should be an ideal world then eh!!!! what bollocks...

    Why cant another team be better???

  • 801mlh on July 26, 2011, 0:19 GMT

    People act surprised that India couldnt amass 300 in either innings.It took an injury to Ravi Rampaul in the 3rd test for India to pass 300 against a very poor West Indies.What do you expect against a well drilled disciplined attack.

  • OliverWebber on July 26, 2011, 0:15 GMT

    @Saket: "the unbelievably overrated Pietersen" - er, would that be the man-of-the-match who scored a beautifully crafted double century to set up England's victory? Who also scored a brilliant double century a few short months ago in Adelaide to put England 1-0 up in Australia? And who averages almost 50 in tests? I don't deny he has his faults - and you could possible argue that with his skill, one might have hoped for even better performances - but "unbelievably overrated" is harsh and unfair - the man is a brilliant, entertaining and intelligent batsman, it's just a shame the press and other commentators are so quick to criticise his occasional failures.

  • on July 26, 2011, 0:07 GMT

    I think we need to look at fitness regimen... Players at that level should not get injured so often... it's the bane of Indian bowlers! @ Kaze - I don't agree with you... it's a not a considered statement! India have done better overseas than ever before! If others can't cope with Indian spinners in India... than they need to go abck to the nets (like we do against geuine pacers)!

  • on July 26, 2011, 0:04 GMT

    Sub-Continent teams always start slower or loser and then raise their game as adjustment take place of envornment:)))))

  • ACHOO88 on July 25, 2011, 23:52 GMT

    inshallah england will win the series 4-0

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on July 25, 2011, 23:39 GMT

    Excuses only carry a lot of weight in a test if you lose by 50 or less runs or 2 or less wickets. Ind were outplayed FULL STOP. Shuffling a batting line up a bit isn't much of an excuse. Dravid opening and Laxman at 3 was better for Ind and so too was having a younger fielder on for Sachin for most of the 2nd innings.

  • Amit68 on July 25, 2011, 23:37 GMT

    MS just needs to acknowledge that the England team played better cricket over the 5 days and move on- instead of wringing his hands and complaining about what went wrong.

  • Crazy_Cricket_Fan on July 25, 2011, 23:29 GMT

    @Tim Lindsay..well said..I could clearly see the most important character that was missing in Indian side...passion to dominate & win...especially from captain & Harbhajan Singh..

  • desiboy454 on July 25, 2011, 23:26 GMT

    There's always WHAT IF'S in cricket. What if Michael Kaspirwic din get that faint glove at edgbaston in 05? what if Treskothick played in the 2007 ashes, 5-0? prlly not. Here today as well, What if Zaheer played the entire match, would england have scored 480 in the first innings? would they have been let off from 65-5 in the second? what if sewagh was playing? SO these excuses dont work, yes it created pressure from day 1 on india. But England need to be aware that India are horrible in the first test, they are wounded, and We are known to come back. England won a great game, they desevred it. But expect a fully fit and raring INDIA side at Trent Bridge. I assure you, the tables will turn. Imagine England in the first test without Cook and anderson. and then having Tremlet and Broad do all the bowling? it would hurt england just like it did to india. But this is cricket, no excuses. We lost fair and square, so Koodos to the England. But INDIA IS GONNA FIRE BACK HARD!!! LETS GO INDIA

  • pradygill on July 25, 2011, 23:11 GMT

    I think Indian team should not make the same mistake again and again and again very time they are in this situation of saving a test. Thye go deep into their shell and become defensive. The bowlers at that point just ahve to keep attacking and put one ball for the batsman to make a mistake and that's what English bowlers did with their accuracy and peneteration. Bottom line is do not try to save the day but play for the day, attack the bowlers and let them think.

  • Ellis on July 25, 2011, 23:10 GMT

    England was much the better team right from the get go. No point having the supposed best batting line-up in the world if it cannot front up to the new ball on the first day of a Lord's Test. The new ball bowlers, apart from Zaheer, do not have the experience to exploit English conditions. This game was also not the best example of Dhoni's captaincy. This series is by no means over but if Zaheer is unfit, India will struggle to dismiss England twice. England won well and deserve plaudits. However, Dravid and Laxman must regret their second innings dismissals to loose shots. Tendulkar was never in touch and the Indian lower batting order from Harbhajan onwards is dismal. Mishra must find a place in the side. Lots of work ahead for the Indian think tank.

  • on July 25, 2011, 23:09 GMT

    i wont blame any indian player either for the loss. they managed in the hardest conditions for subcontinent team with too much issues. commentators like ian botham can stop talking about england is the best team in the world. if they draw series or win in the subcontinent, then ill say they are the best. they only have beaten a weak australia team in australia. that doesnt say anything. i still think the indian bowlers are better bowlers than the english in overall conditions. i want to see anderson especially out of all english bowlers bowling on real flat pitches apart from england, south africa and australian pitches which dont have swing nor bounce. this england attack is only the best in their home conditions. the south african attack is the best in all pitch conditions in world cricket

  • theRule19 on July 25, 2011, 23:08 GMT

    So many excuses!! Truly disappointed by this team's performance as none other than Dravid came even close to have a decent score. Big names like Sachin, Laxman, Gambhir (even though hurt), Dhoni, etc. got out without significant partnerships when mattered. Bowling lacked skill even with Kumar's 5for in the first innings and Ishant's good spell during the second innnings. They gave away just too many easy singles posing another question towards their fielding ability. Harbhajan should be given rest and Indian selection should look at other specialist spinning options (not Amit Mishra) as there were no variations e.g. doosras and top-spinners etc. found in all his spells apart from the change of angles. Mukund should be dropped and Yuvraj should be given a chance in the next one. Overall a very ordinary performance and if they continue this style of play, number one position is surely going away.

  • hamzabilal08 on July 25, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    The great thing about Dhoni, he is defending his teammates rather than himself. That must earn him lots of respect.

  • on July 25, 2011, 23:05 GMT

    they are missing sehwag at the top of the order and well unfortunately zaheer due to injury.....they middle order did not apply themselves, which may highlight the fact of lack of preparation....the only batsman who showed excellent aptitude was dravid..his evident form transcended from the west indies tour...and well raina in the second innings....most of these guys are coming off from injuries and a break from the IPL....so if they want to be in contention of winning the series, there is serious homework to do

  • SamirCup on July 25, 2011, 23:02 GMT

    Aah I think India played well under the circumstances. I would have a very unproductive day at work if I were sick and my partner was absent. Hats off to team for standing up to the challenges. They'll be back hard and ruthless, no doubt.

  • wolf777 on July 25, 2011, 23:01 GMT

    Clearly India needed the extra bowler. The biggest mistake Indian selector made was to keep treating Irfan Pathan as a main bolwer instead of developing him into an all-rounder. The fetish of playing with six batsmen killed his career and is destroying other bowlers as well. Irfan Pathan should always have been treated as the fifth bowling option rather than one who carries 20 plus overs a day. Drop a batsman and go in with four pace bowlers in next test to avoid the repeat of the Zaheer Khan fiasco. Even if Zaheer Khan is fit to play in the next test match, he or someone else may get injured again on the first day and again there will be no fall back option.

  • Skylight28 on July 25, 2011, 23:00 GMT

    I am personally not that fussed about this loss. India has been known to be slow starters: In their last 6 series, they have lost the opening test in 3 series: by an innings against SA at home in Feb 2010, by 10 wickets away in SL in Jul 2010, and by an innings away in SA in Dec 2010. Yet, India went on to draw each of the 3 series in question. Given that the margin this time wasn't as bad (Yes, 196 runs is huge, but not as big as an innings or 10 wickets), and clearly India had more injury related hiccups than England as Dhoni pointed out, I think that team India should still feel that this loss is not the be-all-and-end-all for this series. England thoroughly deserved the victory, but I don't think that the Indian performance was one to be ashamed of. Clearly, India is not as dominant as Australia a few years ago, but India will remain the #1 test side as long as England don't beat them by a margin of 2 or more in this series. An exciting series... lets wait and watch... and savour!

  • abu_zayr on July 25, 2011, 22:59 GMT

    To all who are going after this Indian team.. Just a few points I want to make.. Yes, the senior players did'nt step up but when you have scoreboard pressure(which england created throughout)it becomes difficult, then Dravid opening the innings Gauti coming in @ 4 and Sachin @ 5 does make a difference. i have played some club cricket and trust me guys if you use to batting at a cetain position then its becomes difficult to adjust just like that. Anyways all credit to England, they looked really resolute and dominent through out the Test match. I'm sure India will come back hard at them, they will rest Zaheer and maybe play Munaf (not Sreesanth because he's just coming back from injury) who can control the run flow and create pressure while Ishant and Praveen can attack. Bhajji wil definately play and come back fighting in the remainder of the series. Good luck India! To all the indian fans just keep faith in this World Champion team they will comeback. Will blog again. Cheers.. Jai ho!

  • NairUSA on July 25, 2011, 22:59 GMT

    Dhoni's men did show good intent to fight in this match. If some days are bad, you cannot do much about it. I am sure that the Indian captain can regain his winning ways in the upcoming matches.

  • scaceventura on July 25, 2011, 22:56 GMT

    England were the better team and they deserved to win. But i wasn't too unhappy with India's performance. Praveen in first and Ishant in 2nd were the superstars. As always Dravid played well abroad and I like Raina's maturity. I think not getting Ojha is a major mistake. If Lax, Gambhir step it up and we get a 4th bowler we'll be more competitive. India should stop getting obsessed with Sachin's 100th 100 and look at winning or saving a Test.

  • on July 25, 2011, 22:47 GMT

    Nothing went "wrong" for India. They were just outplayed, outclassed and sent packing in every dept of the game -- batting, bowling and fielding. It's one thing to win a series against a dilapidated and withering out of form WI side. Playing a full form England in England is a different ball-game altogether. And barring the big 3, none of the other batsmen are fit to be test batsmen. Suresh Raina has great deal of resilience and plays with determination. And Mukund is trying his best to contribute as much as he can knowing that he will be axed as soon as his highness Mr Sehwag is deemed fit. But neither has class nor the promises of the class and respect that the big 3 commands. Gautam Gambhir needs to evaluate his position in the cricket team. If as a full-timer opener, you are being overlooked from opening in the second innings in fading lights of an English summer by a 38 yr old reluctant opener (Dravid never enjoyed opening), then you're a liability to the team.

  • SanjivAwesome on July 25, 2011, 22:46 GMT

    England are a very good team. That is the lesson for Dhoni. It is not the pitch, nor the bounce, nor the injury to key players. Dhoni needs to prepare an India team despite all these peripheral factors. As an Indian fan, I believe he can.

  • on July 25, 2011, 22:40 GMT

    We Indian fans know only extreme. Either we praise our cricket stars too much or bring them down too early. I know that this team was ill-prepared and blame goes to both team, management and board. Why do u need our main players to play in IPL? Do zaheer, GG, Sachin and Sehwag need to play IPL? IPL can consume young players and retired oldies but board is much more worried about 20-20 cricket than real cricket. Now, we have this perennial problem of getting beating in first match of series but still we have done nothing to change that. This was such an important tour and what our players have prepared for that. Those players who were there in WI, did well, suggesting that real life match experience is much important for preperation.

  • Yevghenny on July 25, 2011, 22:38 GMT

    Khan was a big moment in the match, without question. But India's batting was put under serious pressure and they couldn't post 300 in either innings. So the deficit would have been much closer with Khan fully fit, but I still believe England would have out-bowled India to win. Still, a great test match, and India still managed to get into a position to win the game at one point, unbelievable really

  • on July 25, 2011, 22:36 GMT

    Disappointing match for India.However, England really played well and deserved to win this one. The worst part for me was how could Zaheer and Sehwag get injured without even playing the WI series? Everyone seems to be fit when it comes to the IPL. I also think it is time to look for a replacement for Bhajji, not just the batters. Like the unbelievably over-rated Pietersen, he seems to get a long rope because of past accomplishments. But if the team wants to maintain their position, there has to be tough competition for places, and tough calls have to be taken. I feel a fit Zaheer could make a difference, but on this evidence, India needs to field and bowl better, to win this series. If this continues, it will be 2-1 to England. I hope I am wrong. Come on India!!!

  • Master01 on July 25, 2011, 22:35 GMT

    Tim Lindsay- Imagiane if England had so many players injured. Its nthing to do with stars aligning, its about injuries.

  • on July 25, 2011, 22:35 GMT

    @Master01 - do you mean like when Anderson was missing for the second innings against Sri Lanka at Cardiff, or when Broad missed almost all of the second innings in the Ashes at Adelaide? And the injuries to Gautam and Sachin were hardly crippling to their batting. Missing Sehwag is a blow as well, but India's strength in batting depth is supposedly famed. The real issue here is that India are underprepared, and Dhoni practically admits it; they aren't prepared for the uneven bounce, but they've had only one innings of FC preparation lined up before a four test tour. I expect them to do better as the series goes on, but there's no point starting every test series 1-0 after the first game.

  • Kaze on July 25, 2011, 22:34 GMT

    Go England, Indian clearly don't deserve the #1 rating

  • kantipur on July 25, 2011, 22:31 GMT

    Zaheer got injured, but whose fault is it? He never played a proper practice match before and came straight to the test match. Didn't even bowl aganst somerset in the second innings. He was just an accident waiting to happen. Infact, the best indian player were the one who played in West Indies. If Zaheer plays second test, there is a high probablity that he might get injured again. Would you sympathize with india then?

  • 2929paul on July 25, 2011, 22:29 GMT

    Great teams overcome adversity and don't look for excuses. When Zaheer was injured, Harbhajan had to step up and perform a holding role on an unhelpful pitch. He failed to do so. The batsmen, Dravid apart, failed to perform on a flat pitch in the first innings. There was no excuse for the first innings failures. Although it might be gracious to recognise some good English bowling. And it might also be gracious to recognise how well Prior (and Broad) batted in the second innings under extreme pressure. This was a classic 5 day Test and Dhoni should recognise that, accepting that one very good team got the better of another very good team on this occasion in a contest that ebbed and flowed. Next time, it might be a different result as the Indians become acclimatised to English conditions. I will be cheering for England but hoping that Tendulkar gets his 100 in amongst it all. I'm going to Trent Bridge specifically to see the occasion!

  • kantipur on July 25, 2011, 22:28 GMT

    Yes dhoni, you are right. Everything went against you like the two plumb lbws that were not given to England.

  • ts_rana on July 25, 2011, 22:26 GMT

    If Billy made some correct decisions then match probably end soon and they went to hotel soon.. Why Dhoni forget to mention ? could someone ask him ??

  • dalok on July 25, 2011, 22:26 GMT

    I think this is going to be very interesting series. I only see India improving from here. I also see that England has a really good team. Got to love test cricket.

  • Alexk400 on July 25, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    india could have drawn the game if they believed in themself. There ends the discussion.

  • Jaggadaaku on July 25, 2011, 22:15 GMT

    Everything went wrong Mr. Dhoni. You keep continue falling cheaper in every innings. Sachin still enjoys playing cricket, never score a century or half whenever really needed, and also enjoys breaking millions of fans hearts all over the world. Harbhajan, who rarely gets wickets these days. When Anil kumble had hard time like Bhajji, medias and cricket world pressuring him to retire, and he did. Why media couldn't see Bhajji's failure in test format. Bhajji took 10 wickets haul in match exact 3 years ago, and since then he played 30 tests and captured 5 wickets haul in an innings only 3 times. Muralitheran has richest records in England, and Bhajji has poorest records in England bowling 35 overs and capturing 0 wicket in this test too. Please blind Indian team supporters, open your eyes, and see these cric-morons don't even try to stay on crease, nor making any runs. They knew they won the worldcup, so Indian supporters and fans would forgive them whatever would happen next.

  • khiladisher on July 25, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    ITS A HOLLOW VICTORY FOR ENGLAND BEATING AN INDIAN TEAM WITH NO SEHWAG AND ZAHEER ALSO SACHIN AND GAUTAM WERE INJURED AND UNABLE TO BAT PROPERLY -SO ALL ADDS UP TO THE SPICE AT TRENT BRIDGE.

  • 5wombats on July 25, 2011, 22:12 GMT

    @All - there is something missing here. At the after match presentation I distinctly heard Dhoni say that he was "happy with the way his team played the game". Didn't anyone else hear this? If the captain of india really is happy with that, then I think India is in for a long, hard, losing series.

  • on July 25, 2011, 22:11 GMT

    No problem MSD. I wouldn't just scare now. Come back hard at them. Good luck!

  • ambrishsundaram on July 25, 2011, 22:11 GMT

    Dhoni's lame duck explanations show the Indians in poor light and nothing else. India were beaten fair and square by a far superior side. All credit to England. Apart from the loss of Zaheer Khan, which was a genuine setback for India, the rest of the explanations hold no weight. This is the same pitch on which Pietersen and Prior showed class while batting. Test matches are all about technique and temperament. The Indian batsmen, bar Dravid and to a limited extent Raina (in the second innings), showed no gumption whatsoever. For crying out loud, we are talking about professional international cricketers and excuses such as pressure because they batted out of order are just that - excuses. Harbhajan is a spent force, the 400+ wickets notwithstanding. It is high time he is shown the door and replaced by Ashwin. India needs four true world-class wicket-taking bowlers, supported by a good fifth bowler (perhaps an all-rounder - and no it is not Irfan Pathan - he needs to regain his game).

  • trenta01 on July 25, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    Dhoni full of excuses again, India outplayed full stop if your the number one side in the world you should be able to deal with a setback or two but would appear India a little thin on depth something England will surely expose as the series goes on expect more of the same

  • Flat_Track_bullies on July 25, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    cant argue with MS's points. Very unlucky but when the going gets tough..tough get going....its a long series...

  • on July 25, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    Dhoni and Harbhajan Sing lost the match for India. At least Harbhajan should be fired. He should not be included for the coming two years.

  • cricketfan1952 on July 25, 2011, 21:51 GMT

    Even though India had the setbacks caused by injuries and sickness of Sachin Tendulkar, for a team ranked # 1 there could have been more fight. The batsmen did not use a positive approach and as a result got themselves strangled by the English Bowlers who had lots of runs to play with.

    Further apart from Ishant and Praveen, Harbhajan did not perform at all. Being the primary spin bowler for India having played under various conditions, the performance was indeed mediocre. From 107 for 6 England were allowed to pile a huge lead w/o loss of any wicket. Even in the first innings the latter half of English batsmen performed very amicable.

    We have to learn important lessons from this - start with 5 bowlers - have better practice sessions prior to the Test series etc.

  • AjitNarayan on July 25, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    I won't blame it on the batsmen in the second innings. Again, India's bowling lacked the killer instinct. When will India learn to capitalise in such situations?

  • Fifthman on July 25, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    Whatever excuses could be found were offered up, more like. I think Dhoni will be making a lot of excuses during this series.

  • karan1609 on July 25, 2011, 21:46 GMT

    This is the situation from where tigers pounce and champions rise...from the doldrums to immortality...I sincerely hope this happens in case of the Indian cricket team..

  • NewYorkCricket on July 25, 2011, 21:46 GMT

    They could have probably drawn the match if Zaheer was fit. England is looking really good here. India will have to pull something out of the bag here.

  • on July 25, 2011, 21:43 GMT

    what we saw throughout the match was a complete lackluster performance....Dhonii from bad captaincy to bad batting did nothing right.....and the fact that he still considers harbhajan a force is almost laughable.....Laxman had a rare bad test with 2 poor shots, but expect him to bounce back....not sure about Gambirr....i would risk playing sreesanth.....even if zaheer is fit.....give him 10 more days to regain fitness....Dhoni is in a self denial mode to say that he is satisfied with the permorfance....thats the bar he has for no1 test team. should do better in 2nd test....go India

  • DaGameChanger on July 25, 2011, 21:41 GMT

    Indians fans should take a series loss at only at one condition that is we have found Ishant, Raina, Praveen and probably Abhinav as next generation test team stars. If these 4 players pass this test series, India will have much to gain rather than winning test series and only Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman scoring in bulk. I really hope Zaheer remains injured and India gets over burdened to prove their supremacy because Diamonds are formed under pressure.

  • bumsonseats on July 25, 2011, 21:39 GMT

    i think with the uneven bounce if any , it had more to do with the height of the england three pace bowlers. 6'3" 6'6" and 6'8" india having only one over 6'0". i just think it was a team of 4 bowlers that on the 5 days of this test they bowled very well and would have beaten any given team. dpk

  • xylo on July 25, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    The first test of each series has been India's Achilles' heel. That this test was not extremely one-sided bodes well for India, I think.

  • ChuckyDoll on July 25, 2011, 21:37 GMT

    Dear Mr. Dhoni, We do sympathize with you, but the less you explain, better it will be for you and the team. Let's admit, we (as Indian team) have issues. You think Sreesanth is the answer, or Mithun....... of course not!

  • Master01 on July 25, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    Dhonis right though. Imagaine if England hadnt had Anderson in the final innings? and their pace bowlers had to overwork themselves like Ishant and Praveen. On top of that, imagainee if they were missing one of their main batsmen like we miss Sehwag, and on top of that, if two of their main players got injured during the game. This victory is hollow, but england fans dont realise it

  • khiladisher on July 25, 2011, 21:29 GMT

    DHONI HAS TO SOMETHING SPECIAL IF HE DOES NOT WANT HIS WINNING RECORD TO COME TO AN END-WHAT HE IS SAYING IS CORRECT INDIA WERE BOWLING THE WHOLE TEST MATCH WITH 2 BOWLERS{BHAJJI WITH 218-1 },AND BATSMEN LIKE SACHIN AND GAMBHIR WERE INJURED- GOING BY DHONIS RECORD IN LAST3-4 YEARS I STILL PREDICT THIS SERIES 1-1 AND IF ENGLAND WINS THE NEXT TEST 2-0,OVAL AND NOTTINGHAM WILL BE HIGH SCORING DRAWS. FOLKS,TRENT BRIDGE IS THE DECIDER FOR THE #1 RANK IN TEST MATCH CRICKET

  • Prakul_Chandra on July 25, 2011, 21:27 GMT

    I think its fair to say that Zaheer was sorely missed.. he is the spearhead of the Indian bowling attack.. Dravid unfortunately missed out in the second innings.. I wonder what was going on in the little master's head when he was batting..when Billy did not give him out ( LBW to Broad) I thought it was perhaps Sachin's day today. . Alas.. Ah well.. we have 3 more tests..Waiting for Viru to go all guns blazing whenever he is fit..

  • on July 25, 2011, 21:25 GMT

    Dhoni better team won the match .accept the defeat.Dont give any excuses.Play better in the next one and y can go on equal terms.

  • on July 25, 2011, 21:21 GMT

    So many excuses from Dhoni. Can India only win when the stars align and everything goes right for them? Never heard so many excuses from a 'number 1' in the world team

  • Test_Cricket_Best_Cricket on July 25, 2011, 21:04 GMT

    I know people will question MSD's captiancy, team selection, below avg Batting, Kamranescue Keeping etc etc.. But lets vouch around our team guys. We will comeback and square the series. Hav faith in MS.. He is yet to loose a test series, won us t20, ipl, champions league, asia cup and the WORLD CUP too.. Don worry MS.. you ll ever walk alone. WE are there to support you.

  • joker380 on July 25, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    First being #1 team means that when time and opportunity calls you have to demonstrate that you can whitstand any (Situation) and INDIA failed to do that even though they were capable of doing that. having said that, If i was England fan i wouldn't start celebrating yet. Think about what if Zaheer, was fully fit your side would have bundeled out below 200. And not to forget the nastly blow on Gambir's elbow limiting him to play at his best and ofcouse Sachin's viral sickness. More then England winning this game on their merit, the luck favoured them more then INDIA. I think they should omit harbajan from the next match, no matter what reason if he wasnt able to take wickets he should have alteast stopped runs and didnt do either of those and to top it off he batted unforgivably in both innings. Give Sreesanth a chance for the 2nd match given the wicket will be more or less same. Bring in Yuvi have dravid open the innings. this way if they need spinner he and raina can bowl a few.

  • rider007 on July 25, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    Excuses, excuses and excuses !!!!! Come up with excuse for the way you got out in the 2nd innings, Dhoni!!

  • CricketChat on July 25, 2011, 21:00 GMT

    What Dhoni meekly tried to explain as batting problems are what test batsmen are expected to encounter and overcome by using their skills!. The simple fact is that Ind batsmen were posed questions and they flopped in this test. That's it!.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:56 GMT

    I cannot see India bouncing back yuvi shd have a place in this batting line up and I trust that he could field better than most of the other players. Ashwin and Mishra are good Kohli is a must>

  • coolerking on July 25, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    Dhoni looking for any old excuse he can.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    excuses excuses excuses! Tough luck on Zaheer but thats his career, he's always been on and off the field. Too bad this isnt India anymore and conditions are a little testing.

  • phoenixsteve on July 25, 2011, 20:54 GMT

    I suppose he couldn't just say "England played better and that England are a classier team".... could he? Sure India had some back luck and no some good luck due their fear of Umpiring fairness AKA UDRS! I thought the Indian team showed character but not much talent and having a weak attack is too much pressure on the old guys.Especialy so when you win the toss in helpful conditions and end up chasing nearly 500! I think from what I've seen, that India are always going to be chasing big totals and that puts pressure on the Tendulkar, Dravid and VVS? Raina looks a good player though...... Roll on Trent Bridge and COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • cyberobe on July 25, 2011, 20:51 GMT

    No matter how you defend it on each passing day, the core issue is imbalance between bowling and batting in team composition. 3 out of 5 bowlers making impact is much better than 2 out of 4 to get opposition out. You can't win matches by playing more batsmen, it only shows how much confidence you have in your batting.

  • bestofluckindia on July 25, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    Don't worry mate. We all know your guys gave 100%. so what if you came 2nd. At least you lasted till the last session.

  • hemant.aneja on July 25, 2011, 20:50 GMT

    Of course, everything was against India! But the worst thing was that Dhoni and Fletcher lost their mind, their aggression and their plans... Had they bowled Ishant post lunch (I was at Lord's, and English fans were as flabbergasted as Indian fans), India would have likely chased about 300 runs- a shot at victory. Instead, but taking Ishant off, they not only shifted the momentum, they gave clear signal to England that the team is playing defensive and will only go for draw/loss.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:45 GMT

    The turning point of the match is not Zaheer khan exit in my view. The turning point is Prior and Broad partnership of 193 runs in 198 balls in the second innings in my view. Ishant Sharma bowled superbly in the second innings but it is unfortunate that Indian bowlers could not take the wicket of Broad and he made 70 odd runs. Whereas Indian tail-enders did not give company to Raina to save the test match. Dhoni kept on poking the balls which were wide outside the off stump and got out to a ball which he should have left alone. I hope team India do little better in second innings and I feel it is time to give rest to Harbhajan Singh for a while.

  • xjunda on July 25, 2011, 20:45 GMT

    It's ok to lose. You can't win every game but one should admit & try to address problems rather than making silly excuses.

    India had problems with fitness & they lacked match practice. Whom should you blame for this? Also we shouldn't forget that Billy tried his best to help lame Indians.

    England played very well & they outplayed India in all the departments by far.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:45 GMT

    This looks like a bunch of excuses except the ZAK injury. The batsmen coming out of sequence is a valid point if they got out immediately and were not used to playing the hard bouncing ball vs. a softer ball later in the innings but all these buggers were settled and scoring runs when they got out. Uneven pitch applied to both teams.

    Guess the batsmen have to perform 2 notches up to live up to their reputation and they need a fully fit bowling squad. The difference in the end in IMHO is the batting, these guys have to perform for us to get anywhere in the series.

    The Indian team really has the talent and the question is if it will ooze out during this series or hide behind the excuse of not enough matches for prep or too many matches!

  • anuAddict on July 25, 2011, 20:44 GMT

    Dhoni I think you need to be gracious that Indian batting did not stand upto English bowling and that's plain and simple! All other luck factors are granted but when Indians knew they had to bat out 120 or so overs, it does not matter who comes when, but the concentration to get thru. I am an Indian fan and very disappointed with some of Dhoni's decisions, Bhajji's poor showing and Indian batting. I cannot fathom that the whole of day 1 they could not get their bowlers to bowl a better line, gave away 8+ runs an over each innings towards the end leading to declaration etc etc. Sorry Dhoni, I disagree with luck being the only excuse as you are making out to be.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    Well Dhoni has a point and he did not even mention the dubious decision that gave Pietersen not out when he was on 49, but the problem with India seemed one of application. Twice Laxman got out to bad shots. Sachin could have been out three times in the second innings.both Sachin and Mukund played away from their body in the first innings and Dhoni himself give the impression that he could be out at any minute. where is the aggression and swagger that made India's batting the most feared in the world

  • raul00900 on July 25, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    Three top Problem that India is facing: 1) Zaheer Injury 2) Sehwag Injury 3) Fit Harbhaja LOL. Bhajji is going through worst patch of his career. He should take rest, give youngster change. India miss a quality spinner

  • demon_bowler on July 25, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    Add to my last post that India's outfielding is appalling and has been for some time now. There is no excuse for this. Not only all the other test teams, but even Ireland and a few others are better fielders. Indians act like it is beneath them. One fears for them when the likes of Dravid and Tendulkar retire, and India cannot rely on weight of runs. Time to blood youngsters and drill them hard in basic fitness and fielding skills.

  • demon_bowler on July 25, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    Lots of excuses from Dhoni. The truth is, India bowled in very helpful bowling conditions on the first day. Zaheer broke down, but he would have taken more wickets before that if he'd been as consistent as he was four years ago. Instead he bowled well in patches only. The wicket at Lord's does the very opposite of what is desirable for test cricket -- it gets better, not worse as the game goes on, so the Indian batsmen could well have got a draw if they'd played with the same application as the Sri Lankans did last month. How come Swann could get turn, but Harbhajan couldn't? As for Sachin's virus, very unfortunate for him, and for all cricket fans -- but England teams visiting India have often been decimated by gastric disorders. So enough with the excuses -- time to man up and admit you weren't good enough, Mr Dhoni.

  • Alexk400 on July 25, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    Same variable bounce faced by england and pieterson. he was patient and waited it out. Indians just felt pressure more. So it is not the excuse i want to hear. No one took it on themself to take the team for draw.. When the country obsessed with stats more than win , this is what happens. No one appreciate the guy who sweat for the country like dravid does time and again. I will point out exact reason india could not draw this game. DHONI's batting. He can't bat in TEST when opposition bowlers are tall and fast. So middle order kinda weak once VVS fall. Sachin bats like machine when there is nothing important. When every one gets bored sachin bat like energizer bunny. When india need him , he will fake fever. He was always like this. he is so obesessed with greatest batsman tag , he do not bat at situation where odds do not favor him. :)

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:33 GMT

    If INDIA WANTS TO WIN 2'ND TEST THEN BRING YUVRAJ SINGH

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  • on July 25, 2011, 20:33 GMT

    If INDIA WANTS TO WIN 2'ND TEST THEN BRING YUVRAJ SINGH

  • Alexk400 on July 25, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    Same variable bounce faced by england and pieterson. he was patient and waited it out. Indians just felt pressure more. So it is not the excuse i want to hear. No one took it on themself to take the team for draw.. When the country obsessed with stats more than win , this is what happens. No one appreciate the guy who sweat for the country like dravid does time and again. I will point out exact reason india could not draw this game. DHONI's batting. He can't bat in TEST when opposition bowlers are tall and fast. So middle order kinda weak once VVS fall. Sachin bats like machine when there is nothing important. When every one gets bored sachin bat like energizer bunny. When india need him , he will fake fever. He was always like this. he is so obesessed with greatest batsman tag , he do not bat at situation where odds do not favor him. :)

  • demon_bowler on July 25, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    Lots of excuses from Dhoni. The truth is, India bowled in very helpful bowling conditions on the first day. Zaheer broke down, but he would have taken more wickets before that if he'd been as consistent as he was four years ago. Instead he bowled well in patches only. The wicket at Lord's does the very opposite of what is desirable for test cricket -- it gets better, not worse as the game goes on, so the Indian batsmen could well have got a draw if they'd played with the same application as the Sri Lankans did last month. How come Swann could get turn, but Harbhajan couldn't? As for Sachin's virus, very unfortunate for him, and for all cricket fans -- but England teams visiting India have often been decimated by gastric disorders. So enough with the excuses -- time to man up and admit you weren't good enough, Mr Dhoni.

  • demon_bowler on July 25, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    Add to my last post that India's outfielding is appalling and has been for some time now. There is no excuse for this. Not only all the other test teams, but even Ireland and a few others are better fielders. Indians act like it is beneath them. One fears for them when the likes of Dravid and Tendulkar retire, and India cannot rely on weight of runs. Time to blood youngsters and drill them hard in basic fitness and fielding skills.

  • raul00900 on July 25, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    Three top Problem that India is facing: 1) Zaheer Injury 2) Sehwag Injury 3) Fit Harbhaja LOL. Bhajji is going through worst patch of his career. He should take rest, give youngster change. India miss a quality spinner

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    Well Dhoni has a point and he did not even mention the dubious decision that gave Pietersen not out when he was on 49, but the problem with India seemed one of application. Twice Laxman got out to bad shots. Sachin could have been out three times in the second innings.both Sachin and Mukund played away from their body in the first innings and Dhoni himself give the impression that he could be out at any minute. where is the aggression and swagger that made India's batting the most feared in the world

  • anuAddict on July 25, 2011, 20:44 GMT

    Dhoni I think you need to be gracious that Indian batting did not stand upto English bowling and that's plain and simple! All other luck factors are granted but when Indians knew they had to bat out 120 or so overs, it does not matter who comes when, but the concentration to get thru. I am an Indian fan and very disappointed with some of Dhoni's decisions, Bhajji's poor showing and Indian batting. I cannot fathom that the whole of day 1 they could not get their bowlers to bowl a better line, gave away 8+ runs an over each innings towards the end leading to declaration etc etc. Sorry Dhoni, I disagree with luck being the only excuse as you are making out to be.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:45 GMT

    This looks like a bunch of excuses except the ZAK injury. The batsmen coming out of sequence is a valid point if they got out immediately and were not used to playing the hard bouncing ball vs. a softer ball later in the innings but all these buggers were settled and scoring runs when they got out. Uneven pitch applied to both teams.

    Guess the batsmen have to perform 2 notches up to live up to their reputation and they need a fully fit bowling squad. The difference in the end in IMHO is the batting, these guys have to perform for us to get anywhere in the series.

    The Indian team really has the talent and the question is if it will ooze out during this series or hide behind the excuse of not enough matches for prep or too many matches!

  • xjunda on July 25, 2011, 20:45 GMT

    It's ok to lose. You can't win every game but one should admit & try to address problems rather than making silly excuses.

    India had problems with fitness & they lacked match practice. Whom should you blame for this? Also we shouldn't forget that Billy tried his best to help lame Indians.

    England played very well & they outplayed India in all the departments by far.

  • on July 25, 2011, 20:45 GMT

    The turning point of the match is not Zaheer khan exit in my view. The turning point is Prior and Broad partnership of 193 runs in 198 balls in the second innings in my view. Ishant Sharma bowled superbly in the second innings but it is unfortunate that Indian bowlers could not take the wicket of Broad and he made 70 odd runs. Whereas Indian tail-enders did not give company to Raina to save the test match. Dhoni kept on poking the balls which were wide outside the off stump and got out to a ball which he should have left alone. I hope team India do little better in second innings and I feel it is time to give rest to Harbhajan Singh for a while.