India in England 2011 August 24, 2011

Low grades for sloppy India

Sharda Ugra assigns the marks out of 10 for India, after one of their worst series in living memory
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Virender Sehwag - 2
He didn't feel ready, he didn't look ready, he didn't perform like he was ready. The selectors may have hauled him into the series out of panic, just off a delayed surgery. The longest he spent at the crease was in his last innings in England: a 77-minute second innings stay before Graeme Swann burst through the gate at The Oval. Sehwag was playing in his first Test after seven months and tried two approaches. The first led to a king pair at Birmingham, he will not forget and India never recovered from. The second involved spending slightly longer at the crease, being rational, measured. Sehwag's time in England was more than a poor performance, it was a sharp illustration of poor injury management.

Gautam Gambhir - 2
A series that could have been the making of the man who is quietly being considered the next captain of India has ended only with many questions. Most of them are around the matches he missed rather than those he played. When the series began, however, he looked like he had all the answers. He fobbed off the new ball at Lord's and Birmingham, only to give it away instead of settling in - once beaten by a swinging beauty from Stuart Broad and the other wasting his wicket in Birmingham after getting solidly in. The series concluded with concussion followed by blurry vision, nausea, vomitting which led to the inability to run in the first innings at The Oval, though he did face up for an hour to Bresnan, Anderson and Broad. In the second he ran, but couldn't bat long enough to hold out against the second new ball.

Abhinav Mukund - 3
Began the series with a confident 49 at Lord's but it went downhill in this three other Test innings on tour. For a young man who has played his first five Tests overseas, it is Abhinav Mukund's temperament that shone through in England rather the technique against the moving ball. He was the only Indian other than Dravid and Suresh Raina to score a 100 on the tour, doing so in the two-day practice game versus Northamptonshire. After which of course he didn't get to play in a single game. A total of 64 runs from four innings can allow him no more marks, though he does certainly deserve a leeway based on overall inexperience.

Rahul Dravid - 9
Obviously. Were these marks on batting alone, a perfect 10 would be a no-brainer. Dravid made almost a quarter of India's total runs in the series, more hundreds than anyone on both sides, each of his 461 a tough run. Now, tough guys may not cry but they may well laugh at this: somehow, on this tour, India's most prolific No. 3, ended up being India's most regular opener (five occasions as opposed to Mukund and Sehwag's four and Gambhir's three), two of his three centuries made in the highest-altitudes of the order. Oh and he kept wickets for a bit, too. Yet, those dropped slip catches and overall defeat must deny Dravid the double digit."

VVS Laxman - 2
The series contained only a few very brief flashes of the real batsman England has never seen. Moving him up to No. 3 due to the shuffling of the openers not only threw off the line-up but Laxman's own performances as well. He came into the series as fresh as Dravid did, received at the most two unanswerable deliveries, but for the most part brought about his own downfall through shot-selections made of haste. Sourav Ganguly believes staunchly that Laxman's game is more suited to No.5 and 6 on the wobbly wickets of England, as he hangs back and plays late, but India's batting pack was not very judiciously shuffled. Eventually the team's experienced middle-order glitter glue couldn't stick around to make a difference.

Sachin Tendulkar - 4
A series to forget, not because it did not contain the Infernal 100, but because of his warm-up taking a while. Was the great man below par? Yes. In terms of his contribution in the series, the experience he brought into an Indian line-up in trouble and his own personal standards. If 5 is the median in marks out of 10, then 4 must be Tendulkar's logical number. When India's second highest run-scorer, regardless of who it is, totals only 273 in eight innings, the series result is going to involve crash landings. Tendulkar offered signs, starts, plus an involvement in the few partnerships India strung together, but not enough scores to stretch a contest.

Suresh Raina - 2
India's energetic GenX poster boy needs his game remodelled. After a fighting hundred in the tour game against Somerset and a bright second innings at Lord's, Raina's progress in the West Indies quickly unravelled on the green tracks of Nottingham and in his next six innings, he scored only 27. The No. 6 spot is far from sealed, the skill gap between India's old and new is a gaping hole. If Raina has to become a leader of the next generation of India's batsmen, his problem will have to be addressed. Currently it involves composure as much as it does the techniques of weaving, swaying, ducking and other options. Raina's part-time bowling was handy on long days, his fielding was the rare face-saver and as much as India needs that, India's middle-order needs runs, regular runs, consistent runs and confident runs.

Yuvraj Singh - 2
If Yuvraj Singh's brief stint in England gave a glimpse of what he could do in Nottingham's conditions - top scorer after Dravid in the first innings - the bruiser-style working over by the England bowlers and a broken finger left the query hanging. Had it not been for the finger, could he have hung though the brutal demands of the rest of the tour? Would it have made a difference? We will never know, but a prolonged series would surely have answered more, either way. Given the holes that have been punched in the Indian batting, Yuvraj will get a few more chances than the two innings of a Test.

MS Dhoni - 2
A series that should define where he goes next, both as long-form batsman and maybe, whisper the words, captain. Regardless of the ODI series, MS Dhoni's Kiplingesque triumph & disaster-management method of cool instinct has possibly run its course, just behind the baffling bowling changes and mysterious field placings. His poor record as a Test batsman was given the flicker with two strong 70s in Edgbaston. It came too late; yet for a while he looked like he had found the formula of how to crack Test batsmanship. Yet on the flattest of wickets at The Oval, Dhoni again gave it away, turned around and cleaned up almost predictably by England's quicker bowlers.

Harbhajan Singh - 2
This is Harbhajan Singh's tipping point tour: he will either burst through upwards again or merely flatline until a successor is found. Once Zaheer was out, Harbhajan became the senior-most bowler, despite dipping wicket-taking numbers and increasing pressure about whether his role in the side involved being attacker or defender. Being one in three front-line bowlers at Lord's naturally sent him out into the defensive trenches again; and after a tidy first innings in Nottingham, England attacked him relentlessly in a middle-overs surge in the second. Injury took him out of the tour and he never went head-to-head on a turning track against his off-spinning rival Graeme Swann. England return to India soon and we will know.

Praveen Kumar - 7
For effort, spunk even, before skill. On his first tour of England, mocked for being more medium than even military pace, Praveen bowled like a glutton for punishment in his three Tests, challenging batsmen with his deception, swing and the hunger to keep returning at them. He could have done with some consistent company, particularly in Birmingham and perhaps a stinging older partner. As England carted their way to 700, Praveen's tight-fisted 40-over spell probably busted his ankle that left him out of the final Test. He was also, significantly, one of the few men who threw the England bowling machine off its lines during his madcap batting blaze in Edgbaston. The only fifer-man in the Indian side on the whole tour, Praveen sat out the last game. Who knows how many more he could have winkled away and when. Particularly with a tuned-in Ishant Sharma for company.

Amit Mishra - 3
He was in there to be a strike bowler, but impressed more with the reassurance and purpose with which he batted at The Oval. He was involved in India's highest partnership of the series - 144 with Tendulkar, and two major stands in that Test - which made him the buffer the lower order needs. He was stepping in for India's lone spin specialist Harbhajan Singh, which is both disadvantage and opportunity and yet didn't make an immediate or sustained impact. At the end of his four innings, it is the lack of wickets that gives Mishra no new gloss and left the injured Harbhajan with fewer challengers.

Ishant Sharma - 4
The Next One. Or not? Ishant's tour was like the English midlands landscape, all hills and dips, one following the other at rapid speed. A breakout spell at Lord's, a first-innings burst in Nottingham and then the ennui of Edgbaston. Yet again, Ishant picked himself up with heart at the end on the flattest wicket in the series. Overall, a so-so tour, 11 wickets from six innings at 58, and only one number will stand out amongst those three. Yet he played in more games than any other Indian seamer and bowled more overs - 173 - than anyone else, even James Anderson. If Australia 2008 was Ishant's debutant's ball, then England 2011 can be his launch platform to become Zaheer Khan's replacement as the alpha male in the bowling attack. But only if he wants it to.

Sreesanth - 2
India's patience for Sreesanth will run out soon, if it has not already, unless the team management can find a way for him to preserve and utilise his skill to the maximum. At his best, Sreesanth can turn games, except his best spells pop up like those of a distracted magician: very occasionally. In England, with everything in his favour in terms of conditions and finally, a place in the attack where he could become the centre of attention, Sreesanth first sparked in Nottingham, then flagged for the rest of the series. On pace, on length, on attention. If any of the quick bowlers have gone backwards on the tour, it would have to be him.

Zaheer Khan - 2
The first cog in the wheel to go wonky; a walking manifestation of India's World Cup-IPL-burnout conveyor belt, Zaheer Khan's was a brief presence followed by a powerful absence. His 13th over limp will be remembered more than the two wickets he had cleaned up, almost on auto-pilot, almost as if it was a given. After his injury, the team lost its striking power and the bowling unit its most efficient leader and guide. India's race to the No. 1, particularly in its toughest games, has been centred on Zaheer and they say he knows his body best. All the more reason he and those around him should have been particularly watchful given the crush of games leading up to England.

RP Singh - 2
Easy to pillory for his lack of fitness and pace, especially as he is out of contract, but having been hauled into a high-intensity series off a vacation in Miami, one thing is certain: RP Singh is not ready to return to Test cricket. Physically that is. That first ball wide at The Oval is not what was responsible for India's eventual defeat, but suddenly it became symptomatic of his team through the entire series. Sloppy and unprepared.

Sharda Ugra is senior editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • vbkrish on August 27, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    Dravid surely deserved 10. Why nobody has guts to say or write that sachin's performance was far belownot only the high standard set by himself but also compared to an ordinary player. When Mishra could bat like a regular batsman why all other players failrd miserably?Just for dropping catches'if Dravid gets 9 marks then Dhoni should get 0 for his failure as a captain',batsman,and wicket keeper. If Dravid had failed to score a century or even a 50,critics would have cried for his blood anf insisted for his retirement and ofcourse he would not have been selected for one dayers, Dravid has disappointed so many ill-wishers by playingsuperbly and they are all waiting for his downfall.I hopr Dravid will not give that chance to them for atleast 2 years.

  • on August 26, 2011, 14:55 GMT

    @SpinkingKK : I so agree with you! Lack of confidence shown by the captain reflected in his performance!!

  • spinkingKK on August 26, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    India should stop judging captians by just the number of games they have won. They have to judge the captaincy regardless of the results and find out if the captian is doing a good job and whether or not he is respectable as a captain. In my opinion, Kapil Dev was the best captain India ever had as the long term captain. Ravi Shastri was the the most superior of them all. However, India never bothered to give him the captaincy for long term. If they did, India's attitude in the cricket would have been different by now. But, what can we do? We can't time travel and change the captian of early 90's, can we?

  • spinkingKK on August 26, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    Please don't put Sreesanth in the same grade as R.P.Singh. Only reason he has gone backward is the lack of confidence his captian has shown in him. He is a match winner and he is not meant to be graded together with R.P.Singh. The later is, with all due respect, a very good ODI and T20 bowler. The former is just suited to test cricket. They should nurture him and provide a captain who is free from all the bias and understands the mettle of his team mates. Rahul Dravid was perfect. But, he has retired from it. They have to find somone as level headed as him.

  • 5wombats on August 26, 2011, 10:23 GMT

    You are fighting over the glass - but the bottle is broken.

  • Nutcutlet on August 26, 2011, 9:38 GMT

    I watched the whole series and was appalled at the standard of test cricket presented by the Indian test team. Only two players, Dravid and Praveen Kumar (of course, everyone knows who the two must be!) seemed proud to represent their country and gave their all. They, and they alone, won the affection of the English public; we saw and applauded the estimable characters of the men to the echo. Dravid 9.5; PK 8.5. The rest of the marks seem to me to be about right, but I would dock one point from VVS for his insouciant attitude re: stating the England's bowlers were nothing exceptional after the Lord's test. How I laughed when Jimmy set his off dolly on a walk - again and again! An eloquent repost if ever there was! One mark as been left off - that given to the selectors who set this team up to fail spectacularly: score 0.5. The half-point is for writing down some names in list form. You've always got to find something to credit, but on this occasion it was hard!

  • on August 26, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    how does sachin deserve a 4?? its just because of his reputation! he deserves oly 1 or 2! his 91 came at the wrong time and he never stood to the ocasion and got out cheaply when he needed to save the game for india! and dravid deserves a 10 even with his 6 dropped catches! he has bailed out india in so many ocasion and took them to 300 (for the first time)! and he has carried his bat over in a innings and came out to bat in 10 mins! hats off to him! great player!how does sachin deserve a 4?? its just because of his reputation! he deserves oly 1 or 2! his 91 came at the wrong time and he never stood to the ocasion and got out cheaply when he needed to save the game for india! and dravid deserves a 10 even with his 6 dropped catches! he has bailed out india in so many ocasion and took them to 300 (for the first time)! and he has carried his bat over in a innings and came out to bat in 10 mins! hats off to him! great player!

  • Swingit on August 25, 2011, 22:01 GMT

    Oh pleeeeeese a 4 for SRT? Then give Dravid 99 then not 9! All Sachin deserves is a big fat 0!! The only 4 that should be attached to him is the 4-0 whitewash he allowed India to suffer at the hands of England while dreaming of his 100th century! He should retire now and then that will be the ONLY thing he has in common with the great Don, another career ended with that famous 99 associated with it.

  • on August 25, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    @Dravid Gravitas - sorry mate, but if you read the article, Dravid gets a 9 because of his fielding. 3 of his 4 drops were sitters (and also very crucial). it doesn't go on batting alone. that's India's problem. It's centred aroundwho can bat, who can bowl, and the number 6 is: 'oh lets have a fielder cause we don't have one' afterthought. If is a huge word, to counter your next point. The cold hard facts are that the Indian batsmen were shocking, Dravid, Mishra and Kumar aside. The sad facts is two of those who impressed with the bat are bowlers. I'm English, in 2003 I got to see three greats (Dravid, Tendulkar and Ganguly) bully the English bowlers. In 2007 I got to see the Indians give a classic example of not giving it away in tough conditions - Anil Kumble was your only centurion in that series. In 2011 I got to see India roll over and die, except for Dravid and Kumar. The injuries didn't help, but served the India team right for their diabolical approach at prepartion

  • crikkfan on August 25, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    I would downgrade Sehwag to 1. Only reason Raina is not 1 is because of his Lords performance

  • vbkrish on August 27, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    Dravid surely deserved 10. Why nobody has guts to say or write that sachin's performance was far belownot only the high standard set by himself but also compared to an ordinary player. When Mishra could bat like a regular batsman why all other players failrd miserably?Just for dropping catches'if Dravid gets 9 marks then Dhoni should get 0 for his failure as a captain',batsman,and wicket keeper. If Dravid had failed to score a century or even a 50,critics would have cried for his blood anf insisted for his retirement and ofcourse he would not have been selected for one dayers, Dravid has disappointed so many ill-wishers by playingsuperbly and they are all waiting for his downfall.I hopr Dravid will not give that chance to them for atleast 2 years.

  • on August 26, 2011, 14:55 GMT

    @SpinkingKK : I so agree with you! Lack of confidence shown by the captain reflected in his performance!!

  • spinkingKK on August 26, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    India should stop judging captians by just the number of games they have won. They have to judge the captaincy regardless of the results and find out if the captian is doing a good job and whether or not he is respectable as a captain. In my opinion, Kapil Dev was the best captain India ever had as the long term captain. Ravi Shastri was the the most superior of them all. However, India never bothered to give him the captaincy for long term. If they did, India's attitude in the cricket would have been different by now. But, what can we do? We can't time travel and change the captian of early 90's, can we?

  • spinkingKK on August 26, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    Please don't put Sreesanth in the same grade as R.P.Singh. Only reason he has gone backward is the lack of confidence his captian has shown in him. He is a match winner and he is not meant to be graded together with R.P.Singh. The later is, with all due respect, a very good ODI and T20 bowler. The former is just suited to test cricket. They should nurture him and provide a captain who is free from all the bias and understands the mettle of his team mates. Rahul Dravid was perfect. But, he has retired from it. They have to find somone as level headed as him.

  • 5wombats on August 26, 2011, 10:23 GMT

    You are fighting over the glass - but the bottle is broken.

  • Nutcutlet on August 26, 2011, 9:38 GMT

    I watched the whole series and was appalled at the standard of test cricket presented by the Indian test team. Only two players, Dravid and Praveen Kumar (of course, everyone knows who the two must be!) seemed proud to represent their country and gave their all. They, and they alone, won the affection of the English public; we saw and applauded the estimable characters of the men to the echo. Dravid 9.5; PK 8.5. The rest of the marks seem to me to be about right, but I would dock one point from VVS for his insouciant attitude re: stating the England's bowlers were nothing exceptional after the Lord's test. How I laughed when Jimmy set his off dolly on a walk - again and again! An eloquent repost if ever there was! One mark as been left off - that given to the selectors who set this team up to fail spectacularly: score 0.5. The half-point is for writing down some names in list form. You've always got to find something to credit, but on this occasion it was hard!

  • on August 26, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    how does sachin deserve a 4?? its just because of his reputation! he deserves oly 1 or 2! his 91 came at the wrong time and he never stood to the ocasion and got out cheaply when he needed to save the game for india! and dravid deserves a 10 even with his 6 dropped catches! he has bailed out india in so many ocasion and took them to 300 (for the first time)! and he has carried his bat over in a innings and came out to bat in 10 mins! hats off to him! great player!how does sachin deserve a 4?? its just because of his reputation! he deserves oly 1 or 2! his 91 came at the wrong time and he never stood to the ocasion and got out cheaply when he needed to save the game for india! and dravid deserves a 10 even with his 6 dropped catches! he has bailed out india in so many ocasion and took them to 300 (for the first time)! and he has carried his bat over in a innings and came out to bat in 10 mins! hats off to him! great player!

  • Swingit on August 25, 2011, 22:01 GMT

    Oh pleeeeeese a 4 for SRT? Then give Dravid 99 then not 9! All Sachin deserves is a big fat 0!! The only 4 that should be attached to him is the 4-0 whitewash he allowed India to suffer at the hands of England while dreaming of his 100th century! He should retire now and then that will be the ONLY thing he has in common with the great Don, another career ended with that famous 99 associated with it.

  • on August 25, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    @Dravid Gravitas - sorry mate, but if you read the article, Dravid gets a 9 because of his fielding. 3 of his 4 drops were sitters (and also very crucial). it doesn't go on batting alone. that's India's problem. It's centred aroundwho can bat, who can bowl, and the number 6 is: 'oh lets have a fielder cause we don't have one' afterthought. If is a huge word, to counter your next point. The cold hard facts are that the Indian batsmen were shocking, Dravid, Mishra and Kumar aside. The sad facts is two of those who impressed with the bat are bowlers. I'm English, in 2003 I got to see three greats (Dravid, Tendulkar and Ganguly) bully the English bowlers. In 2007 I got to see the Indians give a classic example of not giving it away in tough conditions - Anil Kumble was your only centurion in that series. In 2011 I got to see India roll over and die, except for Dravid and Kumar. The injuries didn't help, but served the India team right for their diabolical approach at prepartion

  • crikkfan on August 25, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    I would downgrade Sehwag to 1. Only reason Raina is not 1 is because of his Lords performance

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 25, 2011, 13:57 GMT

    Why 9 for Dravid and how 4 for Sachin? Sorry Sharda, you got it wrong. Dravid has to be 10. If at least one other batsman survived properly, you would have seen Dravid raking up big hundreds (instead of going for desperate shots with 10th and 11th batsmen) and that would have made a huge difference to the series scoreline. Sachin on the other hand was part and parcel of that revolving door of batsmen for the entire series. His 90 was too little, too late, unconvincing with lives all over that score and when the result was almost a foregone conclusion with no pressure of saving or winning. The context of his 90 is as subpar as its execution. Compare and contrast each one of Dravid's three sublime Centuries, for context and execution. I would give Sachin 2 or 2.25.

  • Johnny_129 on August 25, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    Agree with Praveens10 on (August 24 2011, 03:49 AM GMT) - Why is it that the Indian bowling seems lost without ZK in the lineup. There is too much senior/ junior mentality in the Inian team - all players have been picked to represent the country and they should take responsiblity to win matches for India regardless of who they are playing alongside! It is absolutely astonishing the difference ZK has on Indian bowling and the way they seem to lose confidence and 'give up' without him. SA tour was a case in point and again here. @aneeshk_k on (August 24 2011, 04:06 AM GMT) - Dravid got 3 hundreds against the England bowling lineup while KP & Bell were battering the pathetic Indian bowling (worse than Bangalesh) - BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

  • kv_aneesh on August 25, 2011, 3:30 GMT

    @the_silent_observer: Our bowlers are "2-4" rated because of KP, Ian Bell and co. If performance against highly rated bowlers are more merit, Sachin and Dhoni should get at least 6. In the same way, KP and Ian Bell should be given 7 or 8 as our bowlers are "2-4" rated.

  • srisri on August 25, 2011, 1:48 GMT

    RP got 2 points because he ran with 2 legs. If he ran with a single leg he would get 1 and u can guess about 0.

  • KGSudhakar on August 25, 2011, 1:32 GMT

    Thanks England team for teaching Indian team a good lesson on what will happen if you give more importance to IPL and T20's. But I don't thing Indian team and management will correct this error and I feel that they will continue doing the same things again. Indian team, just see how England players and Australian players like Michael Clarke, Mitchell Johnson are giving importance to National Cricket. Indian team have taken everything lightly and they paid the price for it.

  • kesasam on August 25, 2011, 0:15 GMT

    @@@@Sehwagologist@@@@ he is gone crazy...he is repating the same paragraph on and on. Hope he hasnt sallow anything that couldnt digest....Hope u enjoying the indian summer....Good luck and all the best team England...Sri Lankan fan

  • Tom-T on August 24, 2011, 23:40 GMT

    Dravid surely deserves a 10, and Praveen Kumar at least an 8. If a few more of the Indians - senior and junior - showed the appetite for a fight that these two showed, the series might have looked very different. PK isn't going to terrify anyone, but the bloke's got more heart that most of his team put together - he's earned a lot of fans in England from his performances.

  • pr3m on August 24, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    Too generous with some. Sehwag, Raina, Bhajji getting two; also Gauti, Yuvi and Dhoni? The former should be at least one below the latter three. Couldn't have hoped for a better walking wicket than Raina, Sehwag should have said no, and Bhajji just needs to go.

    Also, I'm not convinced we need to dispense with Dhoni's captaincy. He can't help if others are ineffective, the most he can do is give them chances to succeed and follow plans. Not a single other long term captain in sight, keeping in mind the ages of all that are assured of a place in the side.

  • 5wombats on August 24, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    @NKTanwar & @vsssarma; nice numbers but the only ones that matter are 4 and 0.

  • on August 24, 2011, 21:42 GMT

    I'd be giving Dravid a perfect 10. His series with the bat was one of the great individual series of all time, and deserves not to be forgotten in defeat. Out of all the batsmen I have ever seen bat, he is my favourite to watch - and the three centuries were sublime. I've forgotten about the dropped catches.

  • His-Highness on August 24, 2011, 21:26 GMT

    Sreesanth should be -100, RP Singh - No comment (It's that bad), Mishra (0) Ishant (-20) Harbhajan should've been dropped months ago. Absolutely pathetic! The batsmen from India didn't perform but they had far less in their favour than the bowlers did. Sreesanth made the English batsmen look like Don Bradman's from number 1 to number 8. Disgraceful performance on bowler friendly pitches. Was either too short or too full all the time. Must be blamed for giving the batsmen no hope especially in the final 2 tests. Over a billion people in India yet we cant find any decent fast bowlers? But Pakistan keeps producing them? Why? Because India view batting as their only strength and tailor make pitches for that purpose. It's time India produced pitches that encourage young cricketers to take up fast bowling so that they trouble any batsmen anywhere, anytime with deliveries clocking 150km plus.

  • on August 24, 2011, 21:24 GMT

    One wonders how bad Sreesanth would have to be to get less than 2.

  • on August 24, 2011, 20:10 GMT

    didnt u know there is another two numbers lower than 2 which r 1 and 0.

  • on August 24, 2011, 19:45 GMT

    Virender Sehwag gets 2 points for just turning up

  • on August 24, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    Dumb ratings, who cares. Will see how bad this dumb rates Eng when they visit sub continent

  • Shanmughan on August 24, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    What did Yuvraj do wrong..??2 marks for scoring a brave fity..??For me that partnership between him and Dravid was the only time India lokked in control of the English bowling...Andrew Mclashan has given 6 marks for Jonathan Trott who barely played 2 matches...You people are being too tough on certain people..it kinda sounds weird...

  • on August 24, 2011, 18:06 GMT

    what is the basis of giving r p singh "2"? he deserves a zero

  • on August 24, 2011, 17:41 GMT

    C'mon.. No negative marks for anyone ???

  • on August 24, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    Before this series Dravid had only 1 century in a lost Test, now its increased to 4.Credit should go all his teammates who fell one by one at the other end. Deserves 10/10 to the man who won player of the series award yet his team finished with white wash. Moved up a position in the absence of Sehwag & Gambir,then Sachin should have come at No.3,but he didn't.Sachin deserves only 1. Sehwag deserves 0 for the King Pairs he achieved ( golden duck in both innings of a test match)

  • sandunk on August 24, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    I thought there exists number under 2?

  • samudralakiku on August 24, 2011, 16:48 GMT

    Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni, Laxman, Raina, Bhajji & RP should be 1. It looks like the rating meter started at 2. Sachin should have been a maximum of 2 or 3 for this kind of performance. Mishra can be a 4 for his batting in the last test alone. He showed the fight that most of the others in the team are missing. In hind sight, It would have been better for Indian cricket if Mukund had been payed in the last 2 tests, especially after the 100 against Nottingham.

  • ravichakra on August 24, 2011, 16:32 GMT

    Why does SRT get 4? His scores have all come when the cause was lost and the result of the match inevitable. RD deserves at least double the points. It was a series of RD v/s 24 members, 11 from Eng side, 10 villains from the Ind side and of course 3 umpires with dubious decisions in 2 tests against the Wall.

  • nlambda on August 24, 2011, 16:06 GMT

    Why is Zaheer not a 0? What did he do - bowl 13 overs? And Sehwag gets a 2 too! He is either a 0 or a 1 with 40 in 4 innings. Maybe "2" is your 0.

  • on August 24, 2011, 15:48 GMT

    Raina has to be a 1 ... come on ...

  • aakkil on August 24, 2011, 15:39 GMT

    i feel for abinav mukund.making his debue in most testing codition as an opener.i watched his progress in domestic,he is a great talent.it would be a different story if he got a chance in batting friendly condition early in his carrier.like gambir or vijay,be patient with him i feel for mukund.making his debue in most testing codition as an opener.i watched his progress in domestic,he is a great talent.it would be a different story if he got a chance in batting friendly condition early in his carrier.like gambir or vijay,be patient with him

  • emeye on August 24, 2011, 15:27 GMT

    Unjust to give such low grades to Mukund and ZAK. It was ZAK who bothered English at least, other bowlers performed like club players.

  • emeye on August 24, 2011, 15:22 GMT

    He (Sehwag) didn't feel ready, he didn't look ready, he didn't perform like he was ready. LOL .. but he still gets 2 numbers.... for what :D

  • vsssarma on August 24, 2011, 15:14 GMT

    Relative rating of all players.

    Player - Matches - Runs - Innings - Balls - Runs Conc - Wkts - Cts - Rtg

    Kumar, P - 3 - 110 - 6 - 951 - 443 - 15 - 0 - 6.24

    Dravid, R - 4 - 461 - 6 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4 - 5.86

    Mishra, A - 2 - 153 - 4 - 486 - 320 - 3 - 0 - 5.13

    Yuvraj Singh - 1 - 70 - 2 - 72 - 52 - 1 - 1 - 4.39

    Tendulkar, S R - 4 - 273 - 8 - 36 - 28 - 0 - 2 - 3.36

    Dhoni, M S - 4 - 220 - 7 - 60 - 39 - 0 - 13 - 3.26

    Sharma, I - 4 - 24 - 6 - 1041 - 640 - 11 - 1 - 2.85

    Sreesanth, S - 3 - 18 - 4 - 666 - 493 - 8 - 0 - 2.65

    Harbhajan Singh - 2 - 58 - 4 - 418 - 287 - 2 - 0 - 2.41

    Raina, S K - 4 - 105 - 8 - 382 - 251 - 4 - 4 - 2.33

    Laxman, V V S - 4 - 182 - 8 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 3 - 2.30

    Zaheer Khan - 1 - 0 - 1 - 81 - 18 - 2 - 0 - 1.87

    Gambhir, G - 3 - 102 - 6 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1.68

    Mukund, A - 2 - 64 - 4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1.62

    Singh Jr, R P - 1 - 25 - 2 - 204 - 118 - 0 - 0 - 1.46

    Sehwag, V - 2 - 41 - 4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 1.15

  • on August 24, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    2 is your favorite number.

  • Sigma-Eleven on August 24, 2011, 15:09 GMT

    See the Combined Ranking below: INDIA is Still #1.

    Test Rankings: Team Ranking Rating ENG 1 125 SA 2 118 IND 3 117 SL 4 108 AUS 5 100 PAK 6 93 WI 7 89 NZ 8 78 ZIM 9 63 BAN 10 8

    ODI Rankings: Team Ranking Rating AUS 1 130 SL 2 119 IND 3 117 SA 4 116 ENG 5 106 PAK 6 100 NZ 7 90 WI 8 78 BAN 9 63 ZIM 10 46

    Overall Rankings (Combination of Test and ODI):

    Team Overall Ranking Combined Rating (Avg of Test and ODI) IND 1 117 SA 1 117 ENG 3 115.5 AUS 4 115 SL 5 113.5 PAK 6 96.5 NZ 7 84 WI 8 83.5 ZIM 9 54.5 BAN 10 35.5

  • on August 24, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    Mukund was decent in the innings 1.1; He got a pair and he was dropped, Sehwag got a pair but he was kept. Mukund deserves better.

  • NairUSA on August 24, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    Good article Sharda. Also, please do not be harsh on the Indian cricketers. They will bounce back when it is really matters - Champions League and the IPL hungama. Test cricket is just a set of practice games for Team India.

  • zico123 on August 24, 2011, 14:57 GMT

    Dhoni should take break from IPL and CL, atleast he should give up captaincy and wicket keeping in IPL and CL

  • on August 24, 2011, 14:57 GMT

    At least for people like Dravid and some others, they have been able to score more than 10 collectively!!! Poor show by the Team India. Indian Cricket Council (ICC) should wake up now or never. Now they are not giving tours to ZIM and BD, in near future, if this track record continues, they will feel the same to happen to them. Sorry to utter the apparently harsh words.

  • big_al_81 on August 24, 2011, 14:57 GMT

    I think these marks are generally pretty accurate although the explanations are still a little over-generous to some of the batting stars - Laxman for instance, whose Test record isn't close to great - merely good. There are 2 true greats in this team - Tendulkar and Dravid - it's great credit to the English corwds that they all stood to applaud one simply appearing but it's the latter who deserves all the credit and, despite the dropped catches, I'd say he still comes close to deserving a 10. Praveen Kumar might have got and 8 I'd have thought and Ishant a 5 but 2s all round for most of the others. I'd be tempted by a 1 for Sehwag but maybe I'm just saying that because of the nonsensical hype around him - exciting but deeply flawed!

  • zico123 on August 24, 2011, 14:57 GMT

    There ought to be superior remuneration or compensation for Test cricketers compared to IPL or CL, if India wants to produce great young test players, otherwise all we would get is good young T20 players

  • zico123 on August 24, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    india lost badly beause of injury and fatigue inflicted by IPL, which caused most of our players to skip WI tour and so come Eng tour we were under prepared, it is too much cricket which is affecting quality. get rid of IPL and CL, india would go back on top again. our big 3 is stil lthe best. if BCCI gives so much money and importance to IPL india would never produce great young test players, all we would get is good young T20 players

  • zico123 on August 24, 2011, 14:53 GMT

    that is not fair to call for heads of our big 3, india lost so badly not because poor performance from big 3, dravid scored 3 hundreds and sachin scored 90, india lost badly because the younger lot failed likes of Raina, Gambhir, Abhinav, Sehwag, Dhoni etc, our big 3 is still the best, none of the younger players are good enough to replace them, no young player have grabbed no.6 spot yet, how can they grab no.3, 4, 5!! eventually 3,4,5 should go to Kohli, Rohit and Pujara, but first let one of them grab no.6 firmly, what longer run for younger players we are talking about, Raina already got a long run and he failed terribly, he is not a test cricketer for god sake, nor is Yuvraj.

  • caught_knott_bowled_old on August 24, 2011, 14:35 GMT

    Hey, how come Munaf Patel is not on this list? I think he did a perfect job of keeping the bench warm. 10 for Munaf :-)

  • HopefulIndianCricFan2 on August 24, 2011, 14:29 GMT

    I think we are being too generous to Sachin. He also should have gotten a 2. I don't know why everyone is afraid to criticize SRK. I think it is unfair to dish out criticism to other players and mildly put it across for SRK.

    I will agree that he has done great things for Indian cricket, but what is his contribution lately. I certainly think he still has some cricket left in him.

    I am sure all our batsman will score boat load of runs in the next series and India and we will all be singing praises and we will forget this humiliation. I am not sure when we (Indian Cricket Fans) will learn!!!

  • on August 24, 2011, 14:18 GMT

    Zaheer Khan should be eased into the role of India's bowling coach. Eric, despite all his experience does not appear to have much of an influence, except perhaps on Munaf.

  • Rorzz on August 24, 2011, 14:15 GMT

    I can't believe some still refuse to accept England are the best team in the world at the moment. ICC player rankings are based on a full years performance, home and away. As it stands, we have 4 batsmen in the top 8, 2 top order, 2 middle order. No other team has more than one. We have 3 bowlers in the top 5, with Tremlett and Bresnan at 10 and 11. Whichever one gets to bowl a full series goes up. So Tremlett, who can't get into the England team, would be first change for SA and would take the new ball for Ind and Aus. And 3 of our bowlers are in the top 8 all-rounders. Again, Bresnan's going up all the time. So our team is a top 6 including 4 of the top 8 batsmen, Matt Prior, an all-rounder with a batting av.of 46 and a bowling av. of 24, followed by 3 of the top five bowlers, including the 2nd best all-rounder at No.9 and the 6th best all-rounder at No.10. We've the best top order, middle-order, keeper, all-rounders, pace attack and spinner. Yet we're not a true No.1?

  • johntycodes on August 24, 2011, 14:11 GMT

    What did sehwag do to deserve 2. He should have a zero or 1 at best.

  • doosra95 on August 24, 2011, 14:10 GMT

    Indian cricket is in slump for long time like Westindies and Australia are on their way back soon............

  • on August 24, 2011, 13:48 GMT

    we wan IRFAN.....................

  • on August 24, 2011, 13:38 GMT

    @ Bengaluru_Rennie: Sachin has scored 29 hundreds abroad more than any other batsman in the world....He has stamped his class in almost every cricket pitches.....He scored a hundred in England and Australia before he turned 20....Yet you saying not to pick him for abroad tests.........One-off series cannot rob his greatness.....And Sehwag.....is there any other batsman who scores massive scores at a faster pace than him......No....never......He has lot more under his belt and his hunger hasnt satisfied.....And Yuvraj may not be the best for tests but still the backbone of India's ODI line-up.....Analyse the facts before commenting.........

  • Kavajo on August 24, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    I think the low marks are fair, but where now for India? I fear the next few years will be very barren.

  • Navin84 on August 24, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    Agreed with all the Grades, but felt most of the 2s should have been 1s. Where is Pujara, didn't heard of him all series, India need to get him in fast along with Irfan Pathan. As for Rania, Kholi, Rohit Sharma, Yuvraj and others these batsmen are T20 & ODI players, which they are good at. You cannot take them out and play test cricket based on T20 performance, NO WAY! India need to do what they did a few years ago, have a few players specially for tests, like how they have Dravid & Laxman. This T20 thing is killing India Test side, it's the dream of most Indians now to play in the IPL, so see where the future lies......

  • Raj12345 on August 24, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    This is true story, but at the same time some retired cricketers talking about the same players and praising them.

  • John-Price on August 24, 2011, 13:07 GMT

    Can anyone tell me what Sreesanth's bowling is all about? He doesn't have conventional swing nor reverse swing, not much seam movement, no pace, no great accuracy - how does he ever manage to get good players out? By glaring at them?

  • on August 24, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    Amit Mishra batted like a top order batsman. He could be useful as 2nd spinner in Indian conditions. Ishant was the major disappointment. His strike rate was the lowest and except for one spell where he got uneven bounce from the wicket, he didn't put in pressure from his end. His pitch map was all over the place. Most of his wickets were lower order wickets. I think the WI series performance shouldn't be considered seriously for bowlers since the wickets were more up and down. The wickets always came when PK and Sreeshant were bowling in tandem. Dhoni didn't utilize his bowler combinations properly. Sreeshant's pace has dropped significantly and it could be that Dhoni instructed him to keep it tight. He should have gone all-out with a less attacking in-out field.

  • on August 24, 2011, 12:45 GMT

    Dhoni should be a 3 or 4 not 2 he played good innings but ran out of partners.

  • 5wombats on August 24, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    Interesting to see India fans circling around poking each other in the eyes over 0's, 2, 3's and 4's. Unfortunately these scores are fair reflections and arguing over whether a player should have got a 2 or 3 is irrelvent - these are desperately poor scores. I'm inclined to agree with @Cpt.Meanster, and I would add that squabbling over these scores is a bit like arguing over who owns the glass when the milk bottle is broken.

  • Ms.Cricket on August 24, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    Sehwag 2 (for atleast being brave enough to turn up, look at Bhajji and Gambhir), Gambhir 0, Mukund 2, Dravid 8 (batted outstandingly but dropped too many sitters), VVS Laxman 1, Tendulkar 3, Raina 3 (for his fielding and bowling), Yuvraj 1, Dhoni 3 (for his twin fifties in third test and brave face in all the thrashing), Harbhajan 0, Mishra 3, Ishant 3, Sreesanth 0, Zaheer minus 5 (for not disclosing full fitness and then leaving team hopeful he will play when he obviously had no chance of being fit), Praveen Kumar 7, RP Singh 0.

  • on August 24, 2011, 12:11 GMT

    rp singh,sehwag-0,gambhir-0,raina-1

  • cricketfan2526 on August 24, 2011, 12:08 GMT

    Doni : -10 points, Raina : -10 points, Yuvi : -5 points, sachin : 0points, Dravid : 7 points, laxman : -5 points, harbhajan : -100 points, mishra : -2points, sreesanth : -8 points, Ishant sharma : 0 points, praveen kumar : 7 points.

  • Dashgar on August 24, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    Indian players getting a mark from 2-10? Surely there should have been a lot of 1s given out

  • 158notout on August 24, 2011, 11:44 GMT

    Having said all that I do feel some of these scores are harsh. Miller got Englands spot on but here I think SRT deserves a 6, VVS a 4. However I would give Dravid an 8 because he dropped a few dollies in the slips.

  • 158notout on August 24, 2011, 11:41 GMT

    Before anyone mentions it, yes I am aware that England may not be No.1 before we even play another test, and I also realise that we would probably not win 4-0 in India, although I do think we would win over there now. However, this should not take anything away from the fact that India were poor. It is a shame that 3 of the former cricket powerhouses (WI, Aus and now India) are in a real slump. And it is so sad that the remedies are obvious to everyone bar the boards. WI need to end the bickering between players and board, I think now they have new pace attack that could drag them up a bit, Australia need to quit their revolving door selections, especially with regard to spinners and India, well India need some bowlers, desperately. Many people state that Swann is not great, he is over-rated, that there is one of him under every stone in India. Now I think is the time for India to start turning stones over and uncovering Swanns as well as new pace attack...

  • on August 24, 2011, 11:32 GMT

    How come they got so much marks ? Except RD & PK to some extent others should got negative or Zero mark. They are only interested in IPL auction. This Team India is IPL servant and completely unfit and useless to play International Cricket or Test Cricket. IPL has taken betting to highest level. IPL is not a Cricketing event it is a worst commerical event. Team India and BCCI is completely focussed on IPL. Because of IPL, Team India is losing skill, inspiration, motivation and fitness to play Test Cricket. These curators, coaches and BCCI officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in other tournaments. IPL is completely meaningless and obsolete Tournament. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch between Countries unlike IPL Teams which look like clubs. Test Cricket is ultimate to watch on sportive pitches. But IPL is making these pitches Lifeless.

  • kobler on August 24, 2011, 11:27 GMT

    that is what happens when you send an insulting team to the WI. Should have sent a proper team and beat us badly like how we deserve.

  • ambujkumar on August 24, 2011, 11:20 GMT

    u give too many chances to Suresh Raina but i would like to ask why abhinav mukund wasn't picked up for the remaining games even after scoring an unbeaten ton in a two day match against Northamptonshire.

  • Bengaluru_Rennie on August 24, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    Advices : Give a damn for the English Entertainment industry. Sachin - Do not pick him for test matches abroad Dhoni - Give him a long rest to heal his fingers. Yuvraj- Do not select him again as he is now more interested in business Habbi - Do not select him. Give him a long rest and let him prove himself in domestics. Ishant - Get him ready for the future test matches Praveen - Mould him as an allrounder Sehwag - He wont be any good in test cricket any longer as his hunger is satiated. Zaheer - Alas Age spares no bowler and he has had his day. Goodbye,gentleman. RPS & Sreesanth - misfits for cricket as they have no real focus and dedication. Amit misra - gotta improve his bowling and fit only for indian pitches Laxman - Sorry,mister you no longer fit into the scheme of things/ do social work. gambhir & raina - long rest and prove yourself in domestics. mukund - good only in indian conditions Dravid & Badrinath - still good for test cricket on any surface.

  • SachinIsTheGreatest on August 24, 2011, 11:04 GMT

    The sum of parts being greater than the whole but India as a team should get -25 for this performance. But we will dig in. These players have the mental strength. The good thing is it cannot get any worse.

  • AlanHarrison on August 24, 2011, 11:00 GMT

    @ SudharsanVM: Agree, it would be good too see management teams getting some ratings as well, if meaningless efforts to give marks out of ten, there are to be

  • on August 24, 2011, 10:44 GMT

    Don't forget Dravid dropped crucial catches in England and the West Indies. His overall score for the test matches in England should be 6 and not 9.

  • Aravind_always on August 24, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    Now where are those people who predict Dravid will fail miserably in England..he is simply the best batsman of the series.KP and Bell scored against a below par indian attack.But Dravid scored 3 hundreds against the best bowling attack in the world..

  • serious-am-i on August 24, 2011, 10:18 GMT

    for me its a simple rating process. Dravid 7 because of his dropped catches. Dhoni -1 for his poor keeping and in-affective batting, if he hadn't scored those few fifties I might have given him - 10/10. Raina 1/10, that 1 too because of his fifties and able to at least take wickets when our "so called spinners" failed. RP Singh should not be even given a ranking, he doesn't even deserve that. Dhoni must be stripped off his test captaincy, only then he will be needed to compete with other keepers for the spot else its useless. Zaheer and Sehwag deserve 0 to keep India hoping something off them, especially zaheer when he didn't utilize his practice match properly, resting in the second innings just pathetic for a player who had a long rest. Laxman deserves 1, his wish of going at 3 should end here. Sachin must get 2 for his 2 fifties especially with those many chances he got, since the WC Semifinals he never looked the same Sachin for me, I wouldn't consider IPL cricket at all

  • Rajeev129 on August 24, 2011, 10:14 GMT

    Sad rating. RP/Sehwag/Raina should't have got more than "0" or "1".

  • on August 24, 2011, 9:53 GMT

    I remember when Greg Chappell was coach, he picked out 5 players in particular and told them to work on their fitness saying it wasn't up to scratch. He told them to go back and play domestic cricket. But it so happens that they were all 'star' players and hence Greg's comments were treated with disdain and he was made the villain. These 5 players were Ganguly, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Sehwag and Gambhir. Look what happened now: Zaheer and Harbhajan injured mid-series. Sehwag was never match fit and Gambhir had a horror of a tour. Who was right finally? Maybe India are not destined to do well under technical coaches like Greg and Fletcher.

  • mak25 on August 24, 2011, 9:51 GMT

    Wasim jaffer should have been picked for WI tour followed by England tour. Wasim scored double hundred on last WI tour and also did well in england. His career was prematurily intturupted by bad selection. By not palying Munaf in any of the test matches only did damge to his moral who was bowling so far in last one year in ev

  • silvercyrus on August 24, 2011, 9:36 GMT

    I am a very big fan of Indian team. I am rather ok if the batsmen dont make runs or the bowlers could not get England out most of the time. At least I was heartened by the fact that our team members were wearing nice looking white dresses and nice spikes. Modern cricket is putting way too much emphasis on runs and wickets and fielding and catches. It has to be about big Indian mouths and a lot of Indian tours by Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and may be West Indies. I like the dead Indian wickets and the lovely contests where 5 days are sufficient for two first innings and scores read as 890 for 6 and 760 for 3....way to go

  • the_silent_observer on August 24, 2011, 9:34 GMT

    @aneeshk_k - Ian Bell's and Kevin Petersen's knocks came against bowlers rated (by Sharda) at "2-4", while Rahul Dravid's scores were against bowlers rated at 9. hence his performance is more valuable. I do believe that there is merit in that thought !!

  • on August 24, 2011, 9:34 GMT

    ms dhoni shuld be given more he did hi bst in 3rdtest..and as a captain used hisbowler..as a wicket keeper dint miss much..whole days at ground...

  • on August 24, 2011, 9:28 GMT

    Sehwag should get a King pair..i mean.. '00'

  • venbas on August 24, 2011, 9:28 GMT

    Zak should get sub-zero marks for messing up Indias plans. He should have avoided putting on all those flab and proved himself in domestic circuit play 4 day matches to judge his progress. RP and Harbhajan get ZERO for their performance. Dhoni probably a 1 for messing up the batting order. Rightly said this is the worst Indian performance in a decade and hopefully BCCI does some real introspection instead of sending another bunch of jokers for future tours.

  • Srinisekar on August 24, 2011, 9:24 GMT

    3 for Mishra is amusing. He has not done the job for what he was selected-that is picking up wickets! No corporate keeps an Accountant for making good TEA!!!. Pantrymen are there to do it. If his runs were so important can we replace a batsman with him!!

  • slow_starters on August 24, 2011, 9:16 GMT

    Personally I think we are forgetting, its not the players who are at fault but also the coaching team. i dont think Fletcher is good enough to replace Kirsten, it was a massive mistake taking him on. It was bad bringing Sehwag into the team straight after his shoulder injury, we shouldve brought in Wasim Jaffer who has been in great form the last few domestic seasons, Raina was poor in the 2/3rd test, Kohli was there. Munaf Patel????? why not him? he is consistant. Dravid always reliable, pointless mentioning Harbhajan, Yuvraj, Sreesanth and RP. However, I know we have been knocked off the top spot but cant see England lasting there.

  • Pritt32 on August 24, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    The test team needs changing as the scores of the Indian players are an accurate and fair reflection of their performances. Selectors are like a brick wall, as they have too much faith in players like Raina, Sreesanth and R.P Singh and they should have no future in test cricket. India needs batmen who can play long innings by adapting to different conditions and bowlers who will threaten oppositions with quality bowling. India is well below the mark in those areas, as the performance of players like Dhoni. Sehwag, Laxman, Gambhir, Raina, Sreesanth, Sharma and R.P Singh highlight the concerns. The margins of England win in a one sided contest shows how work has to be done in terms of fitness, attitude, technique, spotting new talent, coaching and selection. I fear it will be a long road to recovery, as the Indian team game requires significant improvements.

  • on August 24, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    hahahah suresh rain 2 pts? i give him 1 or 0.. after seeing his moments @the crease in 4th test.. he is unfit for tests!!!!!

  • on August 24, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    Shewag - 01, Gauti - 00, mukand-03, rahul- 09,VVS - 02, sacin- 05, suresh - 01,yuvaraj- 00, dhoni -01,bajja -00,praveen -08, mishra -04,Ishant -03, sree- 03, zak - nt hz fault, RP -00.

  • Evilpengwinz on August 24, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    I'd agree with most of these, except for Raina and Mukund. Mukund at least looked like he knew what his role is as an opener over here (in the Lord's test, anyway), where he didn't try to smack the bowlers out of the ground first ball, and I felt given the performances of Gambhir and Sehwag, was unfortunate to lose his place. I'd give him a 4 based on the Lord's performance.

    As for Raina, I consider him to be a batting allrounder, so for his bowling performances, and energy in the field (which is something the rest of the side didn't have), I'd give him more than 2/10.

  • Truemans_Ghost on August 24, 2011, 9:01 GMT

    Funny how standards change.... this is considered a disasterous seires for Sachin for averaging about 34. Mike Gatting's career average was about 35!

  • eZoha on August 24, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    I am glad to see Sharda didn't give Dhoni more than 2. It could be quite misleading that Dhoni hit two fifties. The truth is that he failed to express any confidence while batting with a top-order batsman. Only when there was nothing to lose and only tails were remaining, he played two innings in ODI style and got the runs. That's not what we expect from the captain cum wicketkeeper-batsman of a top ranked team.

  • gargi_vizag on August 24, 2011, 8:55 GMT

    My rating for the Indians would be: Sehwag-0;Gambhir--1;Mukund---3;Dravid--9;Sachin--2;Laxman--1;Dhoni--1;Raina--1;Yuvraj---0;Harbhajan---0;Praveen---7;Zaheer--1;Ishant---6;Amit Mishra---3;Sreesanth---1;RP Singh---1

  • Sunil2381 on August 24, 2011, 8:54 GMT

    Very generous of you to give Sehwag a 2, Gambhir? did he get it for making guest appearances and playing crazy shots in the 4th test... Bhajji.. well they pay him handsomely for all the things he doesnt do, so I assume you can give him some points too.

  • bhaloniaz on August 24, 2011, 8:48 GMT

    Its fair. Dhoni averaged 31 against a good english lineup. Thats good for a wk-batsman. He should get 4 or 5.

  • cgkirtikar on August 24, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    Surprised a generous 2 rating has been given to non performers like Sehwag, Sreesanth and Dhoni. Dhoni's 2 fifties cannot gloss over the fact that where the team needed him really was as a leader above everything else. Still a Prior like performance would not have hurt for sure. This may sound excessive, but the entire Indian line up, barring Dravid of course, deserve to be dropped for a series...yes including my deity Sachin ! just as a reminder that the Indian team is not a collection of bad travellers ! Even the excuse of lack of practice would have gone away after two tests surely ! How it makes sense to bring in replacements from out of the blue and then either blooding them right away, or giving them a paid UK vacation, is anybody's guess. Simply put, the Indians never turned up ! I am glad Sachin did not get his hundred in this horrible series ! Hope we haven't regressed back to the 90s with this series as only a trailer or worse things to follow. Fervently hope that I am wrong!

  • crikbuff on August 24, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    Some people deserve to get "0". Sehwag, Bhajji, RP and Zaheer. esp Sehwag and Zaheer - they should get negative marks. If they had made their fitness status clear, then Ajinkya Rahane and Varun Aaron would have at least got a chance to perform. Whoever picked Raina should get negative marks as well.

  • SudharsanVM on August 24, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    So how many points for fletcher? It definetly should be in negative.

  • NarayanShankar on August 24, 2011, 8:37 GMT

    You are extraordinarily generous to an over-hyped team that has lost 4-0 with 2 innings defeats and 2 with huge margins of 196 & 319 runs and whose players have been less than honest about their fitness and priorities.

    Reflecting expectations & Team needs vs performance I would give:

    Sehwag 0 (2 golden ducks, avr 10 from an unfit Messiah) Gambhir 1 (avr 17 from a future Captain!) Mukund 3 Dravid 9 (wish I could give 10) Laxman 2 Tendulkar 3 (the world's highest run-scorer awaiting his 100th 100 was not there when the Team needed him; his 91 in a losing cause is immaterial) Raina 1 (too many chances, little result) Yuvraj 0 (where was he? unfit, lots of chances, mediocre Test results) Harbhajan 0 (2 wickets at 143 runs each more a liability, unfit) Praveen 7 Amit 3 Ishant 4 Sreesanth 2 Zaheer 1 (2 points for bowling 13 overs in the entire series? unfit) RP 0 (118 runs for no wickets; a roly-poly embarrassment)

    Let us stop mollycoddling them!

  • Goldenspoon on August 24, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    Sehwag, RP and Zak should be 0. Pk should be 5. Dravid can be 7 or at best 8 since he dropped crucial catches and got out at the wrong times.

  • on August 24, 2011, 8:29 GMT

    Dhoni bubble was to burst one day.Imagine in the year 1997, a 16 year old wk batted for three hours to prevent England from winning the test at Lords.Same wk performed well in WINDIES 2011 but was not picked for England tests.If Dhoni had batted like Parthiv of 1997 at least two tests could have been saved.

  • Mike_C on August 24, 2011, 8:23 GMT

    2 is generous for Dhoni, if you take into account his appalling wicket keeping, some of the worst I've ever seen in international cricket. Maybe captaincy, batting and keeping is too much for one man to cope with?

  • bestbuddy on August 24, 2011, 8:21 GMT

    Well, RP may not deserve his 2, but given that he was called up while on holiday in miami having not been prepared to play a part (after years out of the squad) can we really be surprised he wasnt up to it?? Dhoni batted stupidly every time he was at the crease, regardless of whether it came off, and his captaincy was not any better - he deserves his 2. One thing I hope India have learnt is that you dont stick a young inexperienced batsman in as an opener - you follow aus's old tactic of playing him at 6 for his first 5-10 tests (a la Ponting and Langer) with Dravid filling in for a bit. All in all though an underprepared squad filled with the wrong players who were poorly captained and motivated

  • getsetgopk on August 24, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    honestly all the indian players deserve a 0 apart from rp singh who i think needs a minus ten (-10) for making fun of 'fast' bowling

  • on August 24, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    so on this basis the minimum marks to pass is 3.5/10. and the passed players are dravid, praveen kumar, sachin & inshant sharma. 2 young players and 2 seniors. but its bad that we couldn't see any younger players performing in batting. so this states that it is not a good idea to fill all the slots with young players. cricket means exp. and talent, and only after that comes the muscle power. its enough given chances to raina and dhoni coz these 2 are not test players. india cant loose many series and international game is not mere a training track for young players. there are talents in domestic and bring them one by one rather than hauling for the retirements. think and act. as long as seniors are in good form its headache for other nations and india was no.01 in test and odi world champions. so this makes other nation's genius to pressure & to make us shout for the retirements of sachin, dravid. its there game plans. by one series don't underestimate our seniors. think and act.

  • suhailundre on August 24, 2011, 8:00 GMT

    you have been very generous with the points. clearly harbhajan , RP, raina should have got a zero. dhoni should get a negative mark on account of his poor captaincy. the difference between this team and the world cup winning team is.... gary kirtsen....sack fletcher now

  • Cricketer2010 on August 24, 2011, 7:55 GMT

    most of the players even deserve less than 2 Dravid deserves 10 Dhoni hitting 2 fifties deserves atleast 3 or 4

  • ravi_b on August 24, 2011, 7:47 GMT

    You can't give equal marks to Dhoni,Zaheer and RP. dhoni 3 zaheer 2 RP 1

  • Naresh28 on August 24, 2011, 7:43 GMT

    For now India will have to rely on Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman from the old guard. I felt Sachin adjusted well to his previous failures. Laxman can find form he was tentative. Rohit Sharma, Pujara, Kohli and Raina for middle slots. Yuvraj and Dhoni. The coach needs to step in drill technique into all trhe batsman against fast bowling. Ashwin should be tried out as a backup spinner, but with Harbajan the leader. India is a big country but we fail to unearth fast pacey bowlers it is a worry. We need three more backup bowlers to Zaheer and Sharma. Fitness needs working on as far as the pace bowlers are concerned. They seem to last for 5-10 overs and then they wilt. After they wilt the slow pace lets the opposition off the hook. Lots of calls have been made for Irfan Pathan he needs to work hard and work on lots of skills. What about trying Abid Ali?

  • snowingreen on August 24, 2011, 7:43 GMT

    It ain't wise to choose two different editors for rating two teams. One editor should have rated both the teams. I think 2 points from sharda ugra is 4 points from Andrew miller.

  • Harvey on August 24, 2011, 7:39 GMT

    I think R P Singh's 2/10 is excessively generous. Having said that, the decision to select him in the first place beggars belief. As for the rest, even when England used to be rubbish (as they have been for most of the years I've been watching them), I'm hard-pressed to think either of a more spineless string of performances as those in this series by India, or of a more one-sided Test series. The winning margins of 196 runs, 319 runs, an innings and 242 runs, and an innings and 8 runs speak for themselves. In fact had it not been for so much time being lost to rain, the margin of the last one would have been even greater!

  • snowingreen on August 24, 2011, 7:39 GMT

    Andrew Miller - 9 , Sharda Ugra - 2. No more explanations. well you can rate such players with 2 /3 points, you should publish this also.

  • on August 24, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    Haha this is such a brutal asessment but it is the truth.

  • OutCast on August 24, 2011, 7:22 GMT

    Sehwag-2 ducks and some change- must get just zero- total waste for air fare Zaheer- just 14 overs- Zero for being an extra luggage on the tour Harbhajan- He would have made more contributions as a bottle carrier- zero for the guy who got no wickets. RP Singh- Zero for a guy who was bowling slower than a spinner. Dravid=10 don't take marks off Ishanth must get 8 marks eventhough he didn't get wwickets, he put everything he had. Raina must share the record with Sehwag- golden ducks= zero Sachin was there for his own records- he was the reason the team failed coz no one questions if he fails but if anyone else fails, they get thrown under the wheels. Sachin must earn a spot rather than an automatic choice on the team- OH YEAH HE IS THERE FOR TICKET SALES

  • NuraSadu on August 24, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    This series you cannot really give out marks to anyone other than THE WALL and PK. Giving 4 to SRT is a lot more than deserving given his capability. I think his one over against Swann at the 80's has created the confusion and slip in concentration in Mishra which finally ended up the great partnership. If u stick wth SRT to get 4 then i wud give Mishra a 4 also for his two brave innings. Also giving Viru and Zak a meagre 1 point will be more fitting than the 2 when compared to the effort put by Gauti to come and play after the head banging fielding effort and for RP's effort to bowl after coming from a big break of 1 year or more and 80 wicketless overs before this test. MSD's 2 is also not fitting considering the two 70's has come more of his luck than his capacity. Maybe Sree cud get a point more for you cannot ask for a bowler to pick wickets unless there is a support at the other end whatever the conditions may favour the bowler. England seamers has just proved that with Swann.

  • BoonBoom on August 24, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    You are either very generous or dont have the capability to judge the performance because you gave 2 marks to Sehwag and RP Singh. JUST UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

  • ansram on August 24, 2011, 7:17 GMT

    Mukund should have been in the team after that 100 and he had a chance to prove himself. Choosing an injury laden and out of practice Sehwag neither helped him ( he got a pair) nor the team. Always choose form if seniors are struggling with injury.

  • Kashi0127 on August 24, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    I do not understand why Sachin gets a 4. He plays only for his milestones

  • on August 24, 2011, 6:58 GMT

    Sharda being very generous to give Sachin and Dhoni more than 1. They are the key batsmen and positions where they let the team from bad to worse. Sharda, you should try negative rating if dont care being diplomatic

  • ambsmams on August 24, 2011, 6:57 GMT

    Sharada Ugra,

    Looks like you didn't want to give anyone 0. Some people did deserve 0. What did Zaks do to get 2? What did Sehwag and Gauti do to get 2? And Bhajji? C'mon, be more frank. Give 0 if they deserve it.

  • on August 24, 2011, 6:56 GMT

    Why is 2 the minimum rating? My rating: Sehwag - 0; Gambhir - 1; Mukund - 2; Dravid - 8; VVS - 3; Sachin - 4; Yuvraj - 5; Raina - 2; Dhoni - 3; Bhajji - 1; Praveen - 7; Zaheer - 4; Ishant - 4; Amit Mishra - 3; Sreesanth - 3; RP Singh - 0;

  • silvercyrus on August 24, 2011, 6:53 GMT

    I think this is unfair to award such low scores to Indian players. Sehwag deserves at least 8 for his his two fours in the first innings of the final test and the match scorer awarded him the same! Zaheer was able to throw 12 overs in the series and without a wide so I would give him a 12 anytime. India did well not to lose the 4 test series 5-0 and kudos to them. Stuart Broad got this many wickets because he jerks, well, may be not during the test matches.

  • on August 24, 2011, 6:46 GMT

    You were far too generous. Why sehwag deserved 2/10? It should have been -5/10.

  • skumar77 on August 24, 2011, 6:43 GMT

    Let us add to that -

    BCCI (as a whole) - 0 No points for guessing why.

    Selectors - 5 Could have done a better job - R Ashwin should have been picked instead of Harbhajan, Mukand does not look to be a test opener - what happened to Wasim Jaffar?

    Media - 4 Really, how many experts belled the cat before the series?

    Coach - 3 Duncan Fletcher should have spent every moment with Kirsten to understand how he got this team to perform.

  • getsetgopk on August 24, 2011, 6:43 GMT

    Ladies and Gents may I have your attention please: The Funeral of our Dear Departed "The Indian Test Cricket" will be held at Wankhade Statium in Mumbai on Sunday Evening. All the fans and well wishers are hereby invited. There is no Formal Dress code for the event so feel free to wear anything you like. HEHEHHEHEHEHE

  • BellCurve on August 24, 2011, 6:41 GMT

    Sehwag does not deserve 2. He deserves 0 or possibly even 00.

  • on August 24, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    A bit harsh -- Laxman did better than his 2, Tendulkar is more a 5, and Ishanth is also a 5.

  • on August 24, 2011, 6:18 GMT

    Do you have some reservation giving out 1 or 0!!! RP Singh 2, SS also 2, Bhajji also 2? I don't think they all performed at same level...

  • AjitDJ on August 24, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    Most guys in this team were just too tired and worn out. That's all. If anyone has to take the blame it should be the BCCI for scheduling so many tournaments one after the other.

  • chandau on August 24, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    The plight of India is like that of Sri lanka but more aggrevated. 5 world class batsmen and only one scores (at least SL had 2 of its 4 big guns firing most of the time). If this is not a wake up call for Indian Management then dont know what will make them situp and take notice. 4 openers for the future and none good outside asia. 2 young guys in the middle and both cant play a bouncer. a plethora of pacies and spinners but none good enough to bowl a side out. what will happen with out RD ST VL ZK to the team? Imagine India playing without these 4 and Shewag... they will be good for RANK 10!

  • bmani27 on August 24, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    RP singh 2? How come it should be 0...

  • on August 24, 2011, 6:13 GMT

    Sharda:

    I thought you were rather hard on Laxman since he did score two fifties, had some important partnerships, had the 4th highest aggregate runs, and took some fine catches. OK he did not go on to hundreds; yes he is getting slower in the field, and he is getting to be a slower starter at the wicket--at least when the ball is swinging/seaming. I bet England were glad to see the back of him though.

    I rather agree with your assessment of Tendulkar as a 4, and Laxman did bat better than Segweg, Gambir, Dhoni, Yuvraj, and Raina whom you ranked as 2s. He also did better than Mukund whom you ranked as a 3. So I would give him a 3 ranking since the Little master is the reference.

    Interested to hear what others think....Shane Que Hee, Aug 23 2011

  • Cpt.Meanster on August 24, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    WOW, on what criteria are these marks given ? I don't see any ZEROS anywhere. Because for all I care, most of the Indian players should get ZERO. Dravid deserves 9 rightly. I would have given him a 10 had he not dropped some crucial catches. I am not sure why Tendulkar is given 4. EVERY bowler except Praveen Kumar deserves nothing more than a ZERO. A complete disintegration from India. A disgrace to a great and proud nation.

  • LittleFinger on August 24, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    Sharda - What does it take for someone to get a 1 or 0? Sehwag, RP, Bhajji must all have been considered?

  • daewoodev on August 24, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    so, do we have to read 2 as 0 ?

  • on August 24, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    The author is too easy on the players. We know all of them have skill, they made it to a national side. They lacked energy, belief, guts and pride. On these attributes, they collectively score a 0. A 2 for Dravid and Praveen maybe...

    Time to forget the world cup triumph and get serious about future

  • Leggie on August 24, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    Sharda you have been magnanimous with your marks. The likes of Zaheer, Harbhajan and Sehwag didn't deserve even a "2". It must be "0". All the three were truly unfit and being professionals should not have opted even to tour. Just the fact that these made themselves available spoiled the team balance and India consistently played with a 9-10 member team.

  • coolio78 on August 24, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    @Sharda: you were too Generous in giving Sehwag, RP and Raina 2 points. I would've just given them a point each to show their presence. Yes, And Gambhir is never successful on fast pitches. All the big names of our team are IPL giants, but Tests, they are just like mices running to find their holes to hide. Forget about reacing No. 1 again, I don't know even if they can maintain their current spot at No. 3, soon Zimbabwe will overtake them.

  • Saffalicious on August 24, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    I think 2/10 is generous for some of these players, as is 4/10 for Tendulkar.

  • Krishna_M on August 24, 2011, 5:25 GMT

    Very well written, thoughtful and honest. Strikes all the rights chords. Wish the relevant characters involved will read this and reflect. Should be the tour manager's report!

  • moozy on August 24, 2011, 5:18 GMT

    Are your scoring between 2 and 10? I don't see how sehwag should get anything more than a 1. Or RP Singh. Or Yuvraj? Or Bhajji?

  • on August 24, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    Sharda - lets not forget that these are a bunch of proud players. Yes it was as disappointing a series as one could ever hope to see, but I would be very surprised if these guys won't be hurting inside. Expect these chaps to bounce back. They have shown us before that they have a lot of resilience.

  • Thilakh on August 24, 2011, 4:59 GMT

    Hi Sharda Ugra, I disagree with the scores you have given to Praveen and Ishant. Their bowling averages and strike-rates in this series were extremely bad as compared to the English bowlers and especially in bowling conditions favoring fast bowlers. Yes, I agree that they bowled their heart out. At the end of the day, it is number of wickets taken by the bowler that counts and how reliable is a bowler that he can take the next wicket ASAP. Also, Ishant looked extremely tired by the 3rd or 4th day. So, I actually doubt his match fitness for test matches. So, I would reduce the score of Praveen and Ishant to 6 and 3 respectively instead of 7 and 4.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 24, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    I would give Raina a 1 and Ishant a 3.5. Dhoni gets 2 I think because his keeping was a joke. Sehwag should get a 1.

  • on August 24, 2011, 4:37 GMT

    In the absence of openers, all the batsmen moved up the order and why not Sachin? The marks of sachin and laxman have to be changed. Laxman had a better outing than sachin.. Dont compare the numbers. It the situation under which one has played is more important.

  • MinusZero on August 24, 2011, 4:32 GMT

    India need a good pace bowler. I thought Sharma's recent for may have been what they needed. He came up short. At his age though, he has plenty of more years to develop.

  • xylo on August 24, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    What is funny is that Sachin gets a 4 and Raina gets a 2. Sachin's only meaningful contribution was a 91, and Raina did a similar act in the first test, and bowled so many overs, got a few wickets, and fielded very well.

  • sandeepkm on August 24, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    These are marks that all the players should paste in their lockers. We must remember this- and use this pain to do something constructive. Go back to BCCI with courage on the poor scheduling, the terrible injury management, managing IPL vs. Country commitments- and then work towards winning back the Pataudi Trophy. We must give a resounding answer, the way the Aussies did after they lost the Ashes in 2005- but we need to plan. I think nothing can motivate better than these marks.

  • BazzyKhan on August 24, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    Finally someone mentions Dravid's dropped catches!! Thank You Sharda!

  • kv_aneesh on August 24, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Ian Bell - 9/10, Kevin Pietersen - 9/10, Rahul Dravid also 9/10???? If Rahul Dravid gets 9 out of 10, Ian Bell and KP should get atleast 12 out of 10, right?

  • on August 24, 2011, 3:59 GMT

    Sehwag should have gotten a 1 that's for sure.

  • rairatank on August 24, 2011, 3:53 GMT

    Ms Sharda Ugra, if allmost all the indian player rated 2 points please give the your valid justification to rate The God 4 points, just because he is The God.

  • Praveens10 on August 24, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    why so lenient..?????? Sreesanth, RP Singh, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Dhoni, Raina... all deserve "0" marks. It would be kind not to give them -ve marks : which is what they deserve for pushing India in reverse direction.

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  • Praveens10 on August 24, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    why so lenient..?????? Sreesanth, RP Singh, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Dhoni, Raina... all deserve "0" marks. It would be kind not to give them -ve marks : which is what they deserve for pushing India in reverse direction.

  • rairatank on August 24, 2011, 3:53 GMT

    Ms Sharda Ugra, if allmost all the indian player rated 2 points please give the your valid justification to rate The God 4 points, just because he is The God.

  • on August 24, 2011, 3:59 GMT

    Sehwag should have gotten a 1 that's for sure.

  • kv_aneesh on August 24, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Ian Bell - 9/10, Kevin Pietersen - 9/10, Rahul Dravid also 9/10???? If Rahul Dravid gets 9 out of 10, Ian Bell and KP should get atleast 12 out of 10, right?

  • BazzyKhan on August 24, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    Finally someone mentions Dravid's dropped catches!! Thank You Sharda!

  • sandeepkm on August 24, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    These are marks that all the players should paste in their lockers. We must remember this- and use this pain to do something constructive. Go back to BCCI with courage on the poor scheduling, the terrible injury management, managing IPL vs. Country commitments- and then work towards winning back the Pataudi Trophy. We must give a resounding answer, the way the Aussies did after they lost the Ashes in 2005- but we need to plan. I think nothing can motivate better than these marks.

  • xylo on August 24, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    What is funny is that Sachin gets a 4 and Raina gets a 2. Sachin's only meaningful contribution was a 91, and Raina did a similar act in the first test, and bowled so many overs, got a few wickets, and fielded very well.

  • MinusZero on August 24, 2011, 4:32 GMT

    India need a good pace bowler. I thought Sharma's recent for may have been what they needed. He came up short. At his age though, he has plenty of more years to develop.

  • on August 24, 2011, 4:37 GMT

    In the absence of openers, all the batsmen moved up the order and why not Sachin? The marks of sachin and laxman have to be changed. Laxman had a better outing than sachin.. Dont compare the numbers. It the situation under which one has played is more important.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 24, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    I would give Raina a 1 and Ishant a 3.5. Dhoni gets 2 I think because his keeping was a joke. Sehwag should get a 1.