England v India, 5th ODI, Cardiff

India face the final curtain

The Preview by Andrew Miller

September 15, 2011

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Match facts

September 16, Cardiff
Start time 1400 (1300 GMT)

Jonathan Trott awaits his turn in the nets, Cardiff, September 15 2011
Jonathan Trott, England's ICC Cricketer of the Year, warms up for his last match of the season © Getty Images
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Big Picture

One more match, 100 overs of effort at best, and India's dreadful tour can finally be consigned to history. Cardiff was the scene of England's first match of an eventful 2011 summer, against Sri Lanka back in May, and now it is preparing to lower the curtain on the season as well. Two ad-hoc Twenty20s remain to be completed against West Indies next week, but to all intents and purposes, with the midpoint of September already passed, this contest possesses a true air of finality.

India achieved a victory of sorts at Lord's last week, insofar as they managed not to lose the fourth ODI - a match that was decreed to be a tie by Messrs Duckworth and Lewis after rain wrote off the final seven deliveries of the match. As had been the case with the wash-out in Durham, the arrival of rain probably did India a disservice at that particular moment in time, given that with Stuart Broad injured, England would have struggled to rustle up 11 more runs with one fit tail-ender still in hand.

Given the vast improvement in their performances in this one-day leg of the tour, it is perhaps a pity that India do not have at least a share of the series to fight for on Friday, not least for the sake of the hardy Welsh souls who will brave the autumnal conditions in Cardiff - and with any luck there will be more than 922 punters in the ground, which was the number that turned out to watch England's astonishing victory over Sri Lanka four months ago.

Nevertheless, all throughout this summer, England have proven the more resourceful at the critical moments of each contest, and the prospect of sending the World Champions home without so much as a consolation victory in ten international fixtures ought to be more than enough incentive to keep the intensity levels topped up for one more day.

Whether India are quite so motivated remains to be seen. Certainly the team's failure to attend the ICC Awards in Mayfair on Monday night - despite staying at a hotel less than ten minutes down the road - gave the impression of a squad that has mentally checked out of this tour. With the likes of Suresh Raina and MS Dhoni finding some late form with the bat, they should have the weapons to give England a battle, but realistically, all attention is now shifting to the rematch in India, starting on October 14. To win in your own seaming conditions is one thing, but to beat the World Champions in their own lair would be something else entirely.

Form guide

(Completed matches, most recent first)
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In the spotlight

At Lord's on Sunday, poor old Ravi Bopara came as close as he ever has done to cracking international cricket. For 96 runs and 111 deliveries, he produced his finest performance in England colours, but then - with the rain pouring, wickets falling and overs running out - he clobbered Munaf Patel to deep midwicket from what proved to be the final ball of the match, and so left England with a share of the spoils instead of what could have been a one-run win on D/L. Still, he could hardly be blamed in the circumstances, and his final score far exceeded his previous best of 60 in 62 previous matches. In the absence of Eoin Morgan, Bopara has a big chance to prove his true one-day worth in the coming weeks.

It's been a pretty bleak tour for MS Dhoni, whose previously unimpeachable status as India's captain has come under serious scrutiny while his team has staggered from one disaster to the next. On a personal note, however, he is just beginning to rediscover his best form as the summer winds to an end, and after digging India out of a massive hole at The Oval, he combined with Suresh Raina at Lord's in a record partnership of 169. His personal share was 78 from 71 balls, and stands him in good stead for the return series next month, let alone a shot at that elusive consolation prize in Cardiff.

Team news

Stuart Broad sustained a torn muscle in his shoulder while bowling his final over at Lord's, and so misses the rest of the English season as well as the tour of India next month. England's injury list grew further after Ben Stokes suffered a finger injury during England's practice session on Thursday. Yorkshire's Jonny Bairstow and Somerset's Jos Buttler have been called up as cover, although with two spinners likely in India, Samit Patel could slot into the vacancy.

England (probable): 1 Craig Kieswetter (wk), 2 Alastair Cook (capt), 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ian Bell, 5 Ravi Bopara, 6 Samit Patel, 7 Tim Bresnan, 8 Graeme Swann, 9 James Anderson, 10 Steven Finn, 11 Jade Dernbach

Through the arrival of Parthiv Patel and Ajinkya Rahane at the top of the order, and the revival of Raina and Dhoni lower down, India's batting has acquired a relative degree of solidity in the latter stages of the tour. As ever it is their bowling that has struggled to contain England's ambitions. RP Singh put in a shift with the new ball at Lord's but still ended up going at nearly seven an over, while Munaf Patel's important over at the death didn't quite mask his previous frailties. Maybe the time has come to blood the speedy Varun Aaron? They don't have much to lose.

India (probable): 1 Ajinkya Rahane, 2 Parthiv Patel, 3 Rahul Dravid, 4 Virat Kohli, 5 Suresh Raina, 6 MS Dhoni (capt/wk), 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Praveen Kumar, 10 and 11 two out of Munaf Patel, RP Singh and Varun Aaron

Pitch and conditions

The weather is expected to be clear for the evening of the match, though Wales in September is no time or place for making assumptions. When asked how the wicket looked, Cook replied, helpfully: "22 yards long!" However, he did concede that two spinners was in his mind.

Stats and trivia

  • The four-wicket victory against Australia at Cardiff last year was the first time in three attempts that England had completed an ODI match at the venue, after washouts against Pakistan in 2006 and South Africa in 2008.

  • India is the only Test team yet to play an international fixture in Wales. Each of the first five matches at the ground were neutral ODIs involving Australia, New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, Zimbabwe, West Indies and Bangladesh, while the Test in May was the first time Sri Lanka had visited.

  • Suresh Raina needs 22 more runs to reach 3000 in ODIs.


"Obviously I will not be playing any more one-day cricket which I thought I would not be playing two years ago. I do not think really it is any different in this game, but it is a nice time to reflect back on what I think was a pretty pleasing and satisfying one-day career."
Rahul Dravid, a surprise recall to India's limited-overs squad for this trip, is preparing to play his 344th and last ODI

"You get judged on the results and we've won both series. It's an encouraging start but I think the good thing is, in the last two games, we've not really played that well, but we managed to get the result which bodes well."
England's captain, Alastair Cook gives a cautious appraisal of his first season as ODI captain.

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Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 15:16 GMT)

This is precisely the reason why India doesnt produce any fast bowler. Prospects like umesh yadav and aaron are not given chances while mediocre bowlers like vinay kumar and praveen kumar are persisted with. We need a captain like Imran khan who was a fast bowlers captain...no wonder why pakistan produced and still produces great fast bowlers . Shame on Dhoni and the team selection. I was looking forward to seeing aaron bowl....looks like he might never get a chance with dhoni at the helm.

Posted by yorkshirematt on (September 16, 2011, 12:53 GMT)

Come on Jonny and Tim bring some pride back to Yorkshire cricket. Crisis at Headingley? What crisis?!

Posted by rmaganti on (September 16, 2011, 12:49 GMT)

Aaron Varun has not been picked today as well. What a disappointment. The team selection has a lot to be blamed for the problems on this tour, setting aside how the players played. Come on Dhoni. You cannot bide your time hoping your buddies will win a game for you. With RP Singh in the team I don't see India winning this match. Thumbs down!

Posted by symsun on (September 16, 2011, 12:39 GMT)

What u think? Will Dhoni resign from captaincy after this match result? Or he would have decided already? ODI Captaincy or Test Captaincy or Both? I wonder he is brave enough to do that. If he choose to resign Test Captaincy, then I am sure Duncan Fletcher may say the same words to Dhoni as Greg Chappel told Ganguly. Do u know what those words?

Posted by symsun on (September 16, 2011, 12:35 GMT)

When India plays the next test match, will Duncan Fletcher say to Dhoni just like Grep Chappel to Ganguly? say what?

Posted by PAKISTANI_WARRIORS on (September 16, 2011, 11:59 GMT)


Posted by PAKISTANI_WARRIORS on (September 16, 2011, 11:58 GMT)


Posted by LancashireHero on (September 16, 2011, 11:44 GMT)

Hopefully another win for England. India were far better in the last ODI though so it should be a better contest this time. Last game in a fantastic tour (if you're and England fan)

Posted by leecoozac on (September 16, 2011, 11:22 GMT)

Ben Stokes is still recovering from a finger injury he suffered earleir in the season hence why he hasnt been bowling for england or even durham for that matter...might have struggled so far but will be a class act in the future...dont see why they still persist with patel

Posted by D.S.A on (September 16, 2011, 10:44 GMT)

@myboyharry: Not clued up about cricket? Ha! You're having a laugh! You will never get any money from me because Stokes is not good enough for international cricket. He's proved nothing as far as I'm concerned with his county and he is currently proving nothing for England. IF he were making massive scores, people like you would be hyping Stokes up as the next big thing who is performing at a young age. As Stokes is not doing that, you use the excuse that he needs to be "bedded in". There are young players out there that don't need to be bedded in and they are called quality players because they don't use the excuse of youth for a lack of high scores at the start of their career. He's scored 150* but when has he scored 200? Not sure what point you were first making. In this forum, only Alex Spurge recognises exactly what I have. One still needs to justify their place, regardless of age, as there are always worthy players around, so you can't be content with a lack of non-performance.

Posted by Umair111 on (September 16, 2011, 10:34 GMT)

@ Kevinpp24,I think batting,bowling & fielding has been pathetic & exposed on this tour.This is a "WINLESS" tour of UK for Ind...I think UK will do better in "Sub continent" conditions especially "Swan" who is way better bowler than "Bhajji" anyway!Players will be tired after playing "CLT20" & England will take advantage of that!By the way unleash "Varun Aaron" let's see what he is made up of!

Posted by pom_don on (September 16, 2011, 10:12 GMT)

Same old garbage from Indian fans......quoting what happened in the past & what will happen in the future the first doesn't matter any more & the second no one knows what will happen......what is real & important is that England are just outplaying India in ALL FORMATS of the game here & now........looking forward to England (without quite a few of it's regulars) putting up a good show once again!

Posted by Sohailh on (September 16, 2011, 10:05 GMT)

What an achievement by Indian team so far! Only one Tied ODI that too due to D/L system... Great performance by the World Champions of ODI... I hope that they would be thrashed in the final ODI as well... May Rain save them again! :P.. :)

Posted by puneriMisal on (September 16, 2011, 9:49 GMT)

At least from this series BCCI should learn to manage and execute its tasks properly. They should ask an injured player to prove his fitness in a first class match then only include him in the squad. As for fast bowlers we need to play them when they are in form at first class level like pakistan and australians do. Surely we have enough fast bowling depth but needs to be groomed & given opportunities at the right time.If Pakistan and Srilanka can have good fast bowlers why cant India not have the same ????

Posted by only4win on (September 16, 2011, 9:23 GMT)

leave all this young team n home conditions, can anyone tell y dhoni is not playing varun aeron...a bowling attack which cnt defend a 280 total, watever be the impressive performance given by the bowlers it was only bu the spinners, the pace bowlers r just looking for the hammering from these English batman,even then dhoni is not willing to play varun aeron, it is impossible to understand,dhoni is just going with his personal preferences,he has nothing to do with the teams winning or lose,winning or lose is a different matter its a part of game, one team will lose one will win,but first ur intentions sud be positive but on this tour dhoni's intentions r very much questionable,right from the first game the selection of playing eleven is always out of mind,but dhoni is adamant in his approach,this tour has opened the skills of the dhoni as a captain,please mr. dhoni leave the captaincy of the team n let this team to recover from ur mistakes,u were a very good leader for india n thknks

Posted by kevinpp24 on (September 16, 2011, 9:23 GMT)

@Ultimate_Stars, actually there 5 from WC squad i think you missed Ashwin and Munaf. It just shows that you guys dont give importance to bowling, there is no doubt that india got lot of batting talents in the bench but the difference in this tour is Bowling. To be honest India got the better bowling conditions in tests but they failed to exploit because of weak bowling. If I'm not wrong only Zaheer will be missed since nehra and harbhajan were useless bowlers. I'm afraid it will be the same problem in coming years especially abroad when home teams can exploit bowling friendly conditions India will struggle to bowl them out. Now dont tell me you are talking about ODI, I'm just telling the team performance overall.

Posted by indyarox on (September 16, 2011, 8:40 GMT)

Looking at the weather forecast it seems an another match with reduced overs per innings. I think its pathetic time to schedule international matches.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (September 16, 2011, 8:12 GMT)

@Ulitmate_stars (sic), I agree that the India team should be congratulated for the way they've stood up in this one day series. I take exception to you and many others saying that the rain has only favoured England though. In the washed-out match, England were 27/2 after 7 overs. That's hardly down and out when the target was 275. That game was up for grabs. In the 23-over game, the rain favoured noone. England were just better. In the game England won on D/L, the rain actually favoured India. If the game had gone the distance, England need less than 3 an over to win. In the last game that was tied, I'd say that India were favourites but England were still in with a chance. All up, I'd say that the rain didn't do more for one team than the other. I think maybe the toss was more of a factor, and India certainly haven't had any luck there. Personally, I hope India win the toss and this game goes the full 100 overs.

Posted by Ulitmate_stars on (September 16, 2011, 7:50 GMT)

Firstly all We Indians should appreciate the efforts put in by this Young Indian Team, Only 3 players from world cup winning team are part of the current squad and the rest are the ipl heores competing against a national side. Kudos!!! Lets C, now over the moon england Team palying next month in Indian conditions and winni ng a series. Nobody knows wht would have been the result had it been a complete 50 over match. England won all three matches with rain favouring in all the three matches. Coming to IPL, people only criticize IPL which happens once in a year but they hardly speak about friends t20 and big bash which is again a t20 affair involving world class players(but hardly anyone knows it). So its not IPL that make people criticize but its the popularity that it has gained over the years and gaining more with the illogical criticisms that it receives from various countires.

Posted by Haleos on (September 16, 2011, 6:59 GMT)

Dravid should have played just this last match as a Farewell. Anyways we lost even thogh he was in the team. The youngsters would atleast have got an oppurtunity to prove themselves. BCCI has taken 2 steps abck by having dravid in the team. Howsoever great ODI player he was now he is a liability. Poor fielding and pathetic batting strike rate. VVS was a much better option atleast in batting. But both of them are not Horses for courses as far as Limited overs are concerned.

Posted by Syno_11_HY on (September 16, 2011, 6:41 GMT)

@akndiwan, yes there is a difference between world champions and world cup champions.. but what goes in history is cup winners.. BTW just by beating a second string Indian ODI team in home conditions,how come England became entitled to world champions....

Posted by spinkingKK on (September 16, 2011, 6:41 GMT)

Please don't write Team news and then make your own opinion about who should play and make a recommendation that may be Varun Aaron should play. We read team news to get to know what is the NEWS about the TEAM. We call can suggest who should play and who should retire. But, what does the team management decides, is what we want to know from the Team News. At least, you should hint the changes according to someone in the team management.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 6:36 GMT)

Funny all England Fans.Of those 338 runs in Tied match in WC,Strauss alone scored more than 150 alone and rest of England team wasnt able to win tht match for Strauss after such a splendid display by him ven England team had to score around 180 or 190 on a flat belter n tht too frm a winnable position.If all others except Strauss struggle on flat tracks dont knw vat u 'll do on turning tracks.I dont see anyone frm England scoring 150+ in India frm their current team.Strauss is retired frm odis.Isnt it? Funny all England Fans.Of those 338 runs in Tied match in WC,Strauss alone scored more than 150 alone and rest of England team wasnt able to win tht match for Strauss after such a splendid display by him ven England team had to score around 180 or 190 on a flat belter n tht too frm a winnable position.If all others except Strauss struggle on flat tracks dont knw vat u 'll do on turning tracks.I dont see anyone frm England scoring 150+ in India frm their current team.Strauss is retired fr

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 6:32 GMT)

May the rain gods favour the men in blue for first n last time!May the rain gods favour the men in blue for first n last time!

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 6:30 GMT)

I am sure England would have won all the game with 8 players missing too. Let me think how england can win with out Anderson, Broad, Cook Strauss, Ian bell, Greame Swann, and KP leaving England with Trott, prior bresnan bopara and the big bench strengh. I am sure you would have done the same.

Posted by Syno_11_HY on (September 16, 2011, 6:20 GMT)

@landl47, everytime giving a reference to one world cup tie doesn't deem England to be fit enough to beat India in India. Okay, India has been comprehensively beaten in England but remember one thing, these are seaming conditions. You wont find such friendly condition back in India. So your so-called great bowling attack will not have any edge.. I see you guys has strated cribbing about missing Morgan, KP and Broad already but didn't acknowledge the fact that India missed more key players on teh tour..atleast on the ODI front.. Except the curtailed T22 Odi I haven't seen England winning any of the ODI comprehensively against this Indian team... So pay repsect to opposition..India's ODI performance is much better than last time English performance when they were thrased 5-0...Jai ho...

Posted by akndiwan on (September 16, 2011, 5:19 GMT)

There is a difference between WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS and WORLD CHAMPIONS

Posted by johnathonjosephs on (September 16, 2011, 5:12 GMT)

@hira02 ummm steyn took a 5 wicket haul against India in the WC Final that helped SA win (he was also Man of the Match) And yes, India may be WC champs, but they are #4 in the world right now. (Winning a tournament at home does not really qualify you to be the best ODI Team... just the World Cup Champions as the ICC ODI Team correctly shows) would like to see varun aaron play... there is way too much hype about this kid, I am desperate to see him bowl. Somebody please explain what the "best captain" is doing? His bowlers are killing him and makes strange choices like putting RP Singh in the final test and not bringing Munaf in until the ODIs... Now he has Varun Aaron coming off good form and he does not bring him in... People in India will severely criticize him if he doesn't bring him in this match and India loses

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 4:29 GMT)

All the best Raina.................

Posted by maddy20 on (September 16, 2011, 4:23 GMT)

@BravoBravo Just in case you haven't noticed there are 8 first choice players missing. The two openers, Sachin, Strike-bowler Zaheer, Ishant Sharma, Ashish Nehra, Yuvraj Singh, Harbhajan Singh. Dhoni, Raina and Praveen Kumar are the only regulars in the squad. I'm sure its safe to call it an India A- Squad.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (September 16, 2011, 4:08 GMT)

Ind were outplayed in the Tests. If they had no injuries I'm sure they would have performed better. At least one of injury was their own fault. Sehwag could have been fit in time if it had been important enough to him. Also those players who were there other than Dravid just didn't perform. Eng always had enough players perform in each innings to win games. Ind has significantly better depth in ODI than in Tests, which they've proven this series. The weather has not been helpful but that's no excuse. The first game could have gone either way. The second game was fair and Eng won at a canter. The third game Eng won when the D/L favoured Ind. If it had gone to 50 overs Eng needed 17 off 49. The fourth game could have gone either way if it hadn't rained. As it stood Ind were ahead but without rain Bopara and Swann would have batted differently. Let's hope for 100 overs here. Ind fans remember the last time these teams met in India it was a tie. Don't assume that Ind will thrash Eng.

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 3:32 GMT)

i think they shud certainly test the likes of Tiwari,aaron in this match.....specially in one day cricket india have abundance of talent and many young cricketers are waiting in the wings!!!there will be worry in test cricket coz who is going to fill the boots of sachin,laxman and dravid.Remember the slot vacanted by ganguly and kumble are still like a musical chair in test cricket..we still dont have kumble replacement as a spinner and number 6 slot is still not fixed by any!!!!!

Posted by BravoBravo on (September 16, 2011, 3:27 GMT)

By the end of 5th ODI (ENG vs IND), IND will be sitting comfortably at #5 according to ICC ranking, what a coincidence. From there they will be struggling to maintain #5 position. AUS tour is on the horizon. I am pretty sure that it will be another white wash for IND. I see it will be long tiring journey for IND to maintain even #5 spot. No wonder, IND has worst WIN to LOSS (all formats of Cricket) ratio among 6 major teams and IND is the most WHITE-WASHED Team in the history of Cricket. But any way Good Luck IND for #5 spot. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Posted by JustOUT on (September 16, 2011, 2:52 GMT)

Worst series i hv ever seen.. Not even 1 win..

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 2:30 GMT)

I find it funny Indian fans are calling their team India A cause a few players are missing...the thing that makes Eng a better outfit than they are along with better preparation is that Englands bench strength was far superior to what India put on the table and as such have been outclassed. Rahane has a bright future in Test and ODI cricket..I think Mukund and Rahane shud b Indias new opening pair in Tests.

Posted by SunnyD on (September 16, 2011, 2:07 GMT)

World cup winners are World Champions Period.

Posted by RameshRayaprolu on (September 16, 2011, 0:21 GMT)

First series that shattered Indian captain's winning records !! May not be the last though :) :) :) !!

Posted by   on (September 16, 2011, 0:05 GMT)

I'd like to get a look at Jos Buttler, his List A record, Ave 69.81 S/R 145.73, suggests he might be just the sort of late order power hitter we are looking for. Anyone seen him?

Posted by Drew2 on (September 15, 2011, 23:52 GMT)

@kriskin.......Actually India are ranked 4th in ODIs. You need to win more than the world cup to be world champions in ODI. As for Duckworth Lewis, - well both team start the match with a 50/50 chance. In England you get damp seaming conditions. In India you get hot dry dusty spin decks. That's the way it is. When fans enjoy home pitch advantages, they can't complain about conditions abroad.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 23:41 GMT)

This beating India got from England was seen since India left the West Indies. India Chasing 186 to win on the last day and didn't go for win was a so horrible to watch. India can't save Test Cricket!

Posted by Lord_Dravid on (September 15, 2011, 23:34 GMT)

@Herath-uk..i think your you've got your knickers in a twist..do you not realise playing in india is extremely diffucult for opposition and in extreme rare cases a team will win a series there..yes england may have a new identity but thats only in their own backyard and pace boowlers will be ineffective.. just like steyn and morkel got smashed to all parts of the ground in the world cup as one example..its gonna be all about batsmen and spinners! england prepare to face a full strenght indian side and not india A!

Posted by myboyharry on (September 15, 2011, 23:21 GMT)

DSA, its shame that Ben stokes didnt score 100, 150 and 200 so far in his limited overs career and excuse me for being flippant but you know as well as I do that young players need to be bedded in.

If you expected massive scores from Ben then you obviously arent very clued up about crcket.

i'll predict that he will go on to carve out a wonderful international career for himself and you can place that £10 in my paypal account in a year or twos time.

Take care.

Posted by kriskini on (September 15, 2011, 22:23 GMT)

My Dear Indian fans. Look at the weather forecast. This is not ODI series This is Duckworth Lewis international series. India is world champions in ODI. Got BLESS India.

Posted by Patchmaster on (September 15, 2011, 21:54 GMT)

Really hope young Bairstow gets picked - as a wicket keeper batsman and awesome fielder - he has a HEAP of potential - and he's a Yorkshireman, so no worries about his attitude or fighting spirit !

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 21:54 GMT)

Am I the only one who wonders why Stokes is in the team in the first place? A List A average of under 30 doesn't merit selection, besides he hasn't the experience. He's slogged against a few poor county teams, but against good teams is found out. Apparantly he bowls, well England seem to have little trust in that aspect of his game. Comparisons can be drawn between him and Australia's Steve Smith, who can't work out whether he is a batsman who bowls a bit, a bowler who bats abit, a bowler, or a batsman. Confused? So is he! Stokes seems very similar to his predicament.

Posted by PeterCook on (September 15, 2011, 20:56 GMT)

Sunil Reddy - There are only 5 ODI's, so I highly doubt England will lose 6-0 in India in October.

Posted by landl47 on (September 15, 2011, 20:48 GMT)

I sincerely hope that the 'possible' team listed is wrong. I see absolutely no justification for playing all three of Anderson, Finn and Dernbach. With Bresnan to bowl 10 overs and Bopara as back-up seam bowler, England needs only two of those three. None of them bat and as this series has shown, you can't have a batting line-up that finishes at #8. One of the young batsmen should be given a chance and with Patel at 7 followed by Bresnan and Swann, England has good batting depth. I see the same Indian fans who were telling us before this series began that England wouldn't beat India because India won in 2008 are now saying England won't win in India because England can't play in India. They're wrong for the same reason they were wrong before- this isn't the same England team nor, for that matter, the same Indian team. England aren't as good a one-day side yet as they are in tests, but they'll give India all they can handle even without Broad, Morgan and KP.

Posted by Tlotoxl on (September 15, 2011, 20:22 GMT)

I find these comments of "we will crush them when we get back to India" seems more than a little odd, England *crushed* India in the Tests, beat India in the ODI series but most importantly remember the last time Eng played Ind in India? World Cup match in Feb? the tied match? India were at full strength then, at home and won the toss and England are clearly stronger now than they were then, Cook is better than Strauss, Kieswetter better than Prior, Collingwood was in terrible form and KP was playing while injured, and we did not have Broad or Morgan then either so they will not be missed.

Posted by mhk21 on (September 15, 2011, 20:15 GMT)

@Vipins ...i am sure england will trash india the same way as they did in england..... and in subcontinent i think the last time they played india were not able to defend even 338 and now they have more balanced side than they had in the world cupand batsmen in form...the difference between them is bowling in which england is far ahead ......as far as broad is concerned there are up and downs in career and i guess he is now at his peak .......

Posted by zico123 on (September 15, 2011, 19:18 GMT)

VARUN AARON must play!! Dhoni can thorw the keeping gloves to Partiv as well to give some rest to his soar fingers and it will be better for him if he skips the Champions League as well.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 19:16 GMT)

If India looses this match it will be a perfect white wash tour...........All the best India.

Posted by Herath-UK on (September 15, 2011, 19:04 GMT)

All will be relieved to see the end of this tour which did not live up to the bill.Though indian fans have high hopes England could surprise them in India too unless the real stars return finding their true form.The subcontinent has always been England's graveyard but I'm sure with their new found identity Eng will try all their best to change that. Ranil Herath - Kent

Posted by Nagpurian on (September 15, 2011, 18:50 GMT)

Andrew, you seem to have missed one very important thing! This is the last ODI match of Rahul Dravid :(

Posted by D.S.A on (September 15, 2011, 18:01 GMT)

Since when has Stokes cemented his spot to the extent that he can put Samit Patel or Jos Buttler on a waiting list? On the few occasions he has had to bat, he has done nothing significant. I understand England want someone young, but that player still has to perform, to maintain their spot, which Stokes has NOT done (insignificant scores, poor fielding and a so-called all-rounder that can't bowl at the moment because of his hand...which leads to me ask why would England select a partially injured player ahead of Patel). Buttler been would have been a better gamble in the squad, with Patel in the starting eleven.

Posted by Vipins on (September 15, 2011, 17:52 GMT)

@ mhk21 it would be difficult for even man of the series broad turn the table for England in India... the same player went for six sixes in an over at the hands of India..The major worry or India in the near future would be thier bowling attack in Australian series and ofcourse the injuries. BCCI should have included at least one test match in the upcoming home series against England, which would have been a gr8 chance for Indians to crush England and regain their confidence.

Posted by hhillbumper on (September 15, 2011, 17:44 GMT)

It will be a shame to not see Dravid on these shores again.He has been a class apart and a real bonus to the game internationally.The best Indian batsman I have seen in 20 years.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 17:35 GMT)

I think this last odi will be the beginning of the end of the england dominance over india n curtain raiser for a 6-0 drubbing ahead for england in a month time in the hands of rejuvenated team india.

Posted by onkar567 on (September 15, 2011, 17:10 GMT)

dravid is retiring from the odi's.but this is wrong from the bcci,he should have got more opportunities to play.TRIBUTE TO THE GREAT MAN.even though india are demotivated,the final showdown will be an indian show!!almost a win at lord's has definitely highed up the moral in the dressing room.varun aaron will bring in the steven finn factor in india xi tomorrow and msd and sk raina with top order have touched form.dravid will get a good send- off!!!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 17:01 GMT)

Full strength, India is no match for england.. They dominate in their land but in moths time we can dominate them.. In our backyard,With our full strength team members

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 16:54 GMT)

As Rahul Dravid's 'swan song ' at in ODIs at Cardiff is expected, our nation salutes this solid "Wall" that has stood protecting India so many times in the past.His modesty, and correct behaviour,in addition to his impeccable technique and talent,will be difficult to match. May he bow out of ODIs with his head held high.

Posted by CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on (September 15, 2011, 15:53 GMT)

All I would say is every dog has is day I remember full strength eng squad could not buy a win in india 5-0 in ODIs and 1-0 in test went home haplessly losing without a single victory with anderson,harmison,flintoff,broad,swann at disposal tables have turned and its india's turn but with 8 WC players injured and to still fight like they have dont in odis is commendable wait for a month for indians to recover from injury and we will see how eng manages to win a single game let alone series which never won

Posted by cooljack_143 on (September 15, 2011, 15:49 GMT)

Well as you said if they play the total quota if 100 overs india will definitely win.And if udrs favors Eng team then no one can help it.It's so happening now that even if Eng team looses they will try to fit in some stupid rule like D/L method in the end and take a fake victory .So u request the writer to please check his words before he comments on team india and also to those fans who are claiming injuries as fake.No player would like to simply miss out just like that.Jai ho....

Posted by maja2834 on (September 15, 2011, 15:48 GMT)

Looks like we have a new recruit for BCCI i.e Andrew Miller ( writer ) .Man that game was England's all the way if not for rain and mistime last 2 wickets..

Posted by BifferSpice on (September 15, 2011, 15:45 GMT)

all the calls about dravid not being mentioned (despite the fact he is). i think he's probably used to it. indian fans have ignored him for years, preferring to worship tendulkar.

Posted by SFGoldenGate on (September 15, 2011, 15:43 GMT)

Few days ago Andrew Miller was critisized for being biased. Now he is little milder to show some sympathy for the Indians by mentioning that the washed out games are little unfair to India. Now, Indian fans are harping about why Miller forgot about Dravid, LOL . People, please stop picking on each other and on every little small thing. Dravid is a legend and even if Andrew did not mention him, all the fans around the world knows that it is his last game. I hope Dravid does well in his last game (peraps win) and show the Indian selector that he should have been integral part in the last 2 year too.

Posted by Truemans_Ghost on (September 15, 2011, 15:31 GMT)

To be fair, Ravi Bopara looked a lot closer to having "cracked internataional cricket" when he got three consecutive test centuries than he did after getting 95 in an ODI

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 15:30 GMT)

While it would be better that Dravid signs off from Odis wid atleast or atmost 1 Indian win on this tour.But m worried whether Dravid would get his last chance to bat in Odis.Tomorrow's weather forecast is nt very gud at Cardiff wid prediction of rain so tht tomorrow's game can be washed out lyk 1st odi or we might get 2 c another T20... While it would be better that Dravid signs off from Odis wid atleast or atmost 1 Indian win on this tour.But m worried whether Dravid would get his last chance to bat in Odis.Tomorrow's weather forecast is nt very gud at Cardiff wid prediction of rain so tht tomorrow's game can be washed out lyk 1st odi or we might get 2 c another T20...

Posted by kichhasuresh on (September 15, 2011, 15:18 GMT)

i cont belive this. this is last match the great wall rahul last ODI career. no mention cricinfo atleast ur mention now plse

Posted by Ahsan_Shere on (September 15, 2011, 15:15 GMT)

Just 20 odd comments!! Before India-England Test series article of this caliber could catch more than 300 people to comment......Results of the series led to this or....?

Posted by Raj12345 on (September 15, 2011, 15:00 GMT)

Even in last ODIs and showing poor display in test and in ODIs, they don't give chance to other warm up batsman. Currently we have such adamant middle order people in Indian team. They don't want loose their place new comers. Sad to Indian cricket.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 14:52 GMT)

Dhoni Should let Dravid lead the side..nothing to lose for Team India...

Posted by AARGI on (September 15, 2011, 14:44 GMT)

Its shocking that this preview didn't mention Rahul Dravid name in it. Farewell Dravid....We are proud of you

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 14:28 GMT)

Agreed @ cric1988. Andrew you have been a joker like the Indian media specially when talk about future tour and forget to say anything about Dravid- one all time greatest player on the earth. The deepest honor & regards to Dravid from me- a Bangladeshi cricket fan .

Posted by Lord_Dravid on (September 15, 2011, 14:22 GMT)

the test series was an unfair contest and the indian players werent at fault..dont blame the players! they lost key layers like sehwag n zaheer to injury..lacked preparation coming into it..exhausted due to cricket overload especially ipl and crucially were mentally unfit all coz of this thanks to bcci..dont blame the players..then in the odi series we practically lost almost our first choice squad to injury otherwise eng wouldnt have won the series..even our second string side had given them run for their money! so one can imagine what it would be like for england in the subcontinent with a full strenght indian side lol england will be crushed!

Posted by Vipins on (September 15, 2011, 14:20 GMT)

This was India's first major series defeat under Dhoni...yes there are a lot of areas to improve..But i still believe India is a better side than England.... Lets wait for a result of a match with full strength INDIA and ENGLAND teams...may be next month October series..if again Engalnd manages to win that yes...no doubt...Engalnd is better..

Posted by mhk21 on (September 15, 2011, 14:19 GMT)

It would be agreat chance for them to win as broad is not playing.....if they still cant winw then i feel sorry for indian cricket ....

Posted by NairUSA on (September 15, 2011, 14:17 GMT)

Yet another prepared 'cow pasture'? Even if it is the case, Team India should not have any excuses to put up a good show. They need to play well both in cow pastures and dust bowls. Hope they can win this ODI and carry some of that spark to the next true engagement...not the champions league variety.

Posted by mbrv on (September 15, 2011, 14:17 GMT)

Pls remember England is winning on India A team......

Posted by PPL11 on (September 15, 2011, 14:08 GMT)

I am an indian fan and at moment very sad regarding india's results in britain. I think had india choice to play all the matches with first playing 11, then result could have been very different. But we clearly see better performance with almost Second stream indian side in ODI.

1. In T20 india were almost there and in experience Vinay kumar Gifted Win to England 2. In first ODI rain took away glory of wining from india 2. In Second ODI it comes down raining again and so it produced another T20, though india lost that as well but they fought really hard. 3. In Third ODI rain again spoiled whole game 4. In 4th rain again spoiled india's party

All in all India performed better in ODIs with second choice players. Better luck britishers when you visit india. Lets hope all first choice players will be fit by that time.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (September 15, 2011, 14:05 GMT)

lot of critics here for Indian team...but they forget that India playing with just Dhoni, Raina, Aswin and Praveen Kumar from its regular side...now, Broard is injured and will not be in Indian tour...I hope you will not consider that when you reply on pathetic performance of Engalnd while they tour India...till then you can enjoy ur time.

Posted by BravoBravo on (September 15, 2011, 14:02 GMT)

In my opinion ENG is knowingly playing below par with IND in the ODI series in order to make the ODI matches competitive to some extent. ENG know that a complete domination, which was seen in Test Matches against IND, will be an injustice to spirit of the game, and audience money. Audience got tired of lacklusture, miserable performance given by IND leaving the test matches as highly non-competitive. RSD we will miss you, you are the greatest performer in Cricket IND has ever produced.

Posted by sonofchennai on (September 15, 2011, 13:55 GMT)

@popnlock : be constructive in ur criticism..every team has its ups and downs...yes we were bad in this tour but do not mock..where was eng in ashes 2006-07...0-5 drubbing, gilly's fastesthundred...where were u after last yr's ashes win in ODI 6-1 drubbing....sucks....and we did nto lose to Ireland in WC...

Posted by Tigg on (September 15, 2011, 13:54 GMT)

I'd go with Patel in place of either Finn or Dernbach. Gives us the second spinner (with Anderson, Bresnan, one of Finn/Dernbach and Ravi we have plenty of seamers) and more batting depth.

Posted by Hindh on (September 15, 2011, 13:51 GMT)

@sabee The Pak team that was smashed by India in the semi finals were not even good paper tigers... pak fans are seething even now since THAT loss.....

Posted by vijaycook on (September 15, 2011, 13:45 GMT)

Someone tell Mr. Dhoni to use Varun Aaron as we have nothing to lose in this match. Give the kid a go. Go for the raw talent Dhoni rather than being diplomatic. Take our neighbors Pakistan they will first play someone new and raw. Give the English something at least to think about. Want to see the kid hit the 150 kmph. All the best Varun.

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 13:44 GMT)

Final Curtain..'Last Chance to Win' Seriously guys does that matter if they win the last game somehow..i will still call this series a complete whitewash..

Posted by Cric1988 on (September 15, 2011, 13:43 GMT)

reading articles on cricinfo now is like watching indian news channel, they will not accept a defeat and create hype without any reason. india has lost the series, why are they talking about the future series (in india) would be a challenge just before the final odi in england. it could not be a challenge just as it was assumed before this series (even though i dont believe so). but i dont think just to cover up failures of indian team on this tour we should start talking about the challenges england will face in india, even if it was to be discussed it should have been about which resources from this series can england use in india effectively!

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 13:38 GMT)

I wonder why Rahul Dravid is not in the spotlight!!!..shocking...its his last odi and there is no mention of him.

Posted by rashmil09 on (September 15, 2011, 13:32 GMT)

Farewell Rahul Dravid..Will miss you! :)

Posted by popnlock on (September 15, 2011, 13:30 GMT)

hehehe Indian team dint show up at ICC awards so how can be they awarded the Spirit of the Cricket award!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are just too proudy and arrogant, I hope the way England has slammed them in both tests and one-dayers, should help them know what they are in world cricket, paper lions made by useless media hype!!! Hah! world champs who can't even win a single match... hehehehehehehehehehe

Posted by sabee66 on (September 15, 2011, 13:28 GMT)

i feel sorry for TEAM India, they got exposed badly...wait till Aussies will eat them alive...lol

Posted by anilkp on (September 15, 2011, 13:25 GMT)

Andrew, you missed to say a word on Rahul Dravid, who prepares to play his final game in India colors.

Posted by Haleos on (September 15, 2011, 13:23 GMT)

Hope they play Varun Aaron. Its sad, we find a genuine fast bowler and he is serving drinks.

Posted by Rakim on (September 15, 2011, 13:22 GMT)

Dhni plz let Varun Aaron play (if u read cricinfo comments hehe), from a Pak fan ^^

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (September 15, 2011, 13:21 GMT)

What a woeful tour of fake injuries and lame excuses for India. They've just been thoroughly outclassed by the better team.

Posted by Rakim on (September 15, 2011, 13:21 GMT)

England will win, yet again :D. Anyways, let's hope we see a thriller. Still, my money on Eng xD

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 13:17 GMT)

I am assuming the words "Rahul Dravid" were in white color. I can't see them here. Well played Miller.

Posted by A.Ak on (September 15, 2011, 13:17 GMT)

Nothing mentioned about the final game of Dravid?, one of the leading run scorer in ODI. Not good. Why so biased? giving space for Trott's practice picture and nothing about the legend?

Posted by Rishi_Agrawal on (September 15, 2011, 13:16 GMT)

Varun Aaron must get a chance to show his talent. He will not get spicy pitches of this order in India to show his worth. This will also add a genuine fast bowler who can bowl at death. Medium pacers like Munaf and Praveen are a lot easy to keep the scoreboard ticking as the batsmen keep getting single easily. Even English tail-enders found it quite easy to score singles off these medium pacers in the last overs. I feel that a genuine pacer will create dot balls which other Indian bowlers were unable to in the last match.

Posted by Nampally on (September 15, 2011, 13:15 GMT)

India should have gone with Ojha for the final ODI.Ojha has done extremely well playing for surrey, taking 10 wickets in the last match.He is more accurate and turns the ball more than Jadeja. Ashwin & Ojha operating in tandem could have been very effective.India really need wicket taking accurate bowlers & Ojha is the best available answer with 2 seamers+ Jadeja as an all rounder 5th bowler. India has not made any moves towards Ojha which shows they are burying their heads in the sand & hoping somehow they will win. .India needs a good start from Patel & Rahane followed by good effort from the next 5 batsmen.The pitch at Cardiff is bit of an unknown product.I think swing bowlers will be effective with the new ball thereafter spin bowlers will be good with the old ball.Only way India can win is to keep their limited bowling & fielding tight and keep the pressure on.With the current bowlers India needs over 300 to win. Can they do it really depends on the individuals collectively.

Posted by stark-truth on (September 15, 2011, 13:15 GMT)

Is the resoundingly depressing Indian nightmare coming to an end - an utterly forgettable tour. But ironically, if Indian think-tank were to forget this tour and sweep the memories under the proverbial carpet, it would be to their detriment. Players have been ruthlessly exposed and there are huge questions looming about the truth of their national commitment and putting country before dollars. IPL has ruined the infrastructure of Indian cricket set-up and affected the mindsets of the players. Moreover, the age-long malaise of inability to cope with moving ball has featured time and time again, making a mockery of the batsmen and their records.

Posted by meeransb on (September 15, 2011, 13:13 GMT)

Shame on you Andrew. You wrote a whole preview without a mention that this is going to be Dravid's last ODI in India colors. FYI, Dravid has scored around 10,300 runs and you did not forget to mention that Suresh Raina was 22 short of 3000 runs. Hope you rewrite or add to the preview.

Posted by joephilip on (September 15, 2011, 13:10 GMT)

All the best Team India . Rock on !

Posted by akkihappy on (September 15, 2011, 13:06 GMT)

lets pray legend of cricket RAHUL DRAVID get wonderful century and win for india in his last odi....

Posted by Biophysicist on (September 15, 2011, 12:58 GMT)

I went through the whole article expecting some mention of this match being Rahul Dravid's in the limited overs versions (expecting that he would be playing). At least it merited a mention in the 'Stats and trivia' section!

Posted by   on (September 15, 2011, 12:57 GMT)

how could u forget it's it's Dravid's last ODI !!!! no mention of it ????????/

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (September 15, 2011, 12:57 GMT)

I dont really care what the score line reads...........the bottom line is if it hadn't been for the rain.......helping England at crucial stages...........the result could have been quite different......

Every team has a bad series..........India is having one after almost 2yrs..........and i think they will do well in future.....

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Andrew Miller Andrew Miller was saved from a life of drudgery in the City when his car caught fire on the way to an interview. He took this as a sign and fled to Pakistan where he witnessed England's historic victory in the twilight at Karachi (or thought he did, at any rate - it was too dark to tell). He then joined Wisden Online in 2001, and soon graduated from put-upon photocopier to a writer with a penchant for comment and cricket on the subcontinent. In addition to Pakistan, he has covered England tours in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand, as well as the World Cup in the Caribbean in 2007
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