Derbyshire v Indians, Tour match, Derby June 30, 2014

Indians prepare for another gentle workout

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Just a week ago, Rahul Dravid was a former India captain and a cricket pundit. He was speaking about the need for intense and competitive warm-up games. Although Dravid mentioned only the recent trend of counties putting up their 2nd XIs, it has not helped that India insist on using their whole squad as opposed to picking an XI, robbing these matches of their first-class status. A week later, Dravid is now part of the support staff, a batting consultant in the lead-up to the first Test, which begins in Nottingham on July 9.

Dravid's presence in Derby on the eve of the warm-up game against Derbyshire is unlikely to make the game any more intense. India will play all their 18 players, with only 11 batting and 11 on the field at any given time, and the game is against Derbyshire, who might not need to play a second team to bring the intensity down: they are a place from the bottom of the second division, lost three players last week, and were pummeled by Durham in a Twenty20 on Sunday.

Yet there is an incentive for India to get their intensity up. In their previous tour game, against Leicestershire, who are placed bottom of Division Two, their bowlers conceded 349 for 5 in 62 overs. Two of the five wickets were "retired out". Ishant Sharma and Pankaj Singh were the only two to get wickets. Even as the pressure grows on England after their defeat to Sri Lanka, the focus in the visitors' camp is squarely on their bowlers.

With these quick bowlers, much maligned and missing their bowling captain Zaheer Khan, the intensity was high during India's only training session between the two tour games, on Monday. The lot of them reported at the ground an hour before the rest of the team, along with Duncan Fletcher-led support staff, Dravid and Cheteshwar Pujara. There were no batsmen to bowl to, but the purpose of coming early was to put them through an endurance test. All of them had to do five laps of the ground, without stopping to catch a breath or walking in between before picking up again. Times were kept, charts prepared for Fletcher to examine properly. Almost all of the bowlers seemed winded by the effort. There was no respite, though: after a break for lunch and a team meeting, they went through a full bowling session at the nets.

Mohammed Shami, though, was not part of the endurance test as he worked separately with physio Evan Speechly and strength and conditioning coach Sudarshan VP. His workout was not nearly as intense as the others', he didn't bowl much, but there were no injury concerns to report. Shikhar Dhawan, who had taken a blow and retired hurt in Leicester, was back fit too.

After this game, India move to Nottingham for their preferred mode of preparation, four days of intense training sessions, before the series begins.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • IndTheBest on July 1, 2014, 15:53 GMT

    Totally agree with @Night.angel. Pankaj Singh is probably most experienced as far the First Class cricket is. He could easily lead the bowling attack if needed. He has out performed other bowlers in both the tour games. Dhoni must go with 5 bowlers if he wants to get any chance of winning. Two spinners are waste in Eng. We must go with one spinner and one fast bowling allrounder in Binny. Batsman have to be more responsible to content and get respected total on board.

  • highonmethane on July 1, 2014, 15:41 GMT

    I don't think we can expect anything from Indian bowlers. The onus is on Indian batsmen like Pujara and Kohli to make sure that India draws at least few of the tests to avoid another whitewash.

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:28 GMT

    Wes Durston: 82 runs in 76 balls? Is this an ODI?

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:26 GMT

    Bhuvi : 9 overs & 16 runs. Ishant, the same number of 9 overs and 41 runs. Nice contrast!

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:14 GMT

    Oh, No! Now old man Durston has taken on Pankaj Singh too... the one we thought had a measure of the English conditions from the first match itself !

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    Except Ishant & Binny, all the other bowlers have so far maintained an economy rate acceptable to the long format. Of course, one has to discount the fact that it is against the 2nd bottom-most team, that too in the second division among the counties.

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    Old Man Wesley John Durston (age 33 years 268 days) is hitting our young bowlers, as if it is an ODI, with a strike rate above 88 !

  • on July 1, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    @Nerav on (July 1, 2014, 14:31 GMT)

    Our memories are quite intact. Last time both our batsmen AND bowlers failed, with a few honorable exceptions. Including the temporary recruit from his American vacation... Sri Rudra Prasad Singh!

    Thankfully, one of those exceptions have joined these young boys. And both the young batsmen and bowlers can benefit by taking in his advice.

  • Nerav on July 1, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    I can believe peoples memories are so short. Last time in England we had a injured Zaheer with no back up, genuine medium pacer Praveen Kumar and had Dhoni give up the gloves and bowl. We STILL TOOK WICKETS. The problem was the batsmen not be able to play against a moving ball. Only Dravid could score runs(if im not mistaken he was the only one to score a century in the tests). Lets remember last time India lost in England it was the batsmen not the bowlers. And we have seen sri lanks bowlers take apart the English batting line up, Wouldnt say they were all that fast but put the ball in the right place. Our batsmen need to learn how to leave balls and play the right ones.

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    Ashwin and Shami are not doing any bowling - does this mean they are already picked for the first test (or that they are ruled out) ?! ;-)

  • IndTheBest on July 1, 2014, 15:53 GMT

    Totally agree with @Night.angel. Pankaj Singh is probably most experienced as far the First Class cricket is. He could easily lead the bowling attack if needed. He has out performed other bowlers in both the tour games. Dhoni must go with 5 bowlers if he wants to get any chance of winning. Two spinners are waste in Eng. We must go with one spinner and one fast bowling allrounder in Binny. Batsman have to be more responsible to content and get respected total on board.

  • highonmethane on July 1, 2014, 15:41 GMT

    I don't think we can expect anything from Indian bowlers. The onus is on Indian batsmen like Pujara and Kohli to make sure that India draws at least few of the tests to avoid another whitewash.

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:28 GMT

    Wes Durston: 82 runs in 76 balls? Is this an ODI?

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:26 GMT

    Bhuvi : 9 overs & 16 runs. Ishant, the same number of 9 overs and 41 runs. Nice contrast!

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:14 GMT

    Oh, No! Now old man Durston has taken on Pankaj Singh too... the one we thought had a measure of the English conditions from the first match itself !

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    Except Ishant & Binny, all the other bowlers have so far maintained an economy rate acceptable to the long format. Of course, one has to discount the fact that it is against the 2nd bottom-most team, that too in the second division among the counties.

  • on July 1, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    Old Man Wesley John Durston (age 33 years 268 days) is hitting our young bowlers, as if it is an ODI, with a strike rate above 88 !

  • on July 1, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    @Nerav on (July 1, 2014, 14:31 GMT)

    Our memories are quite intact. Last time both our batsmen AND bowlers failed, with a few honorable exceptions. Including the temporary recruit from his American vacation... Sri Rudra Prasad Singh!

    Thankfully, one of those exceptions have joined these young boys. And both the young batsmen and bowlers can benefit by taking in his advice.

  • Nerav on July 1, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    I can believe peoples memories are so short. Last time in England we had a injured Zaheer with no back up, genuine medium pacer Praveen Kumar and had Dhoni give up the gloves and bowl. We STILL TOOK WICKETS. The problem was the batsmen not be able to play against a moving ball. Only Dravid could score runs(if im not mistaken he was the only one to score a century in the tests). Lets remember last time India lost in England it was the batsmen not the bowlers. And we have seen sri lanks bowlers take apart the English batting line up, Wouldnt say they were all that fast but put the ball in the right place. Our batsmen need to learn how to leave balls and play the right ones.

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    Ashwin and Shami are not doing any bowling - does this mean they are already picked for the first test (or that they are ruled out) ?! ;-)

  • ishaan1997 on July 1, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    @jose I agree what you said about Ishant, but i feel he is blocking a place of youngster. Besides, playing for 7 years is too much, it's only in India he is getting these many chances, in england or austrailia, he wouldn't have reached this far. In the starting of a series he does look good, but he looses shape thereafter. In short, he isn't consistent enough in my opinion, but i would love to be prooved wrong!

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    Completely agree with ishaan1997's selection for the first test XI (posted July 1, 2014, 13:06 GMT)-

    Dhawan,Gambhir,Pujara,Kohli,Rahane,Dhoni,Jadeja,Ashwin,Bhuvi,Shami,Pankaj.

    I would only add - Shami to lead the pace bowling attack and I think he is the kind of person who the extra responsibility will bring the best out of. When you are unsure about which bowling attack to pick, a balanced bowling attack (3 pacers, left-armer, offie) is a good option to cater for all possibilities.

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    Good to see the two young guns Pankaj Singh and Ishwar Pandey making an impression - together with Jadeja's couple of wickets the bowling attack for the first test seems to be sorting itself out - barring any unpleasant surprises from the team selection committee! ;-)

  • on July 1, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    Compared to the last match when we bowled against the bottom most team in the second dvn, this time we are bowling to a team just one rung above in the same second dvn. And, there is significant improvement in our bowling.

    If we extent that kind of a trend line (higher we go, better we deliver). Indian bowlers should take 20 wickets "easily" against their test team! No? :-)

  • on July 1, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    After Ishant's 2nd spell: Giving away 41 runs in 9 overs look very good indeed... in an ODI!

  • on July 1, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    For the first 20 runs from Ishant the batsmen took 4 overs; for the next 21 runs they had to face 5 overs from him. Yes, there is improvement.

  • ishaan1997 on July 1, 2014, 13:06 GMT

    I think it is highly unlikely Ishant will play.Even bhuvi rectified his mistake but ishant is still merrily bowling no balls against county batsmen. I mean 7 no ball in 7 odd overs!! People will still say that dhoni will favour ishant but i have a feeling that ishant will not play more 1 or atmost 2 matches if he doesn't perform. I mean with four bowlers and ishant, it might still be fine but with 4 bowlers including ishant, the workload will increase on the other two and they will break down because of ishant. For me the xi will look like:->Dhawan, Gambhir,Pujara Kohli,Rahane(Rohit will strugle against swinging ball and it will in the end be like 6 batsmen only)Dhoni,Jadeja,Ashwin,Bhuvi,Shami,Pankaj. If we play these bowlers, we still might win, but with ishant, we will conced 700+ per match(I hope i am prooved wong!!)

  • on July 1, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    @Darkmanx12155 on (July 1, 2014, 12:05 GMT):

    I sincerely hope, your faith in Ishant is proved right; for Ishant's sake, and more importantly for India's sake. I can't speak for everyone; but I would be delighted, if it happens.

    (Also for Zak's sake & Dhoni's sake too, both of whom still have faith in him)

  • Sameeratennakoon on July 1, 2014, 12:35 GMT

    Let's hope India would draw at least 2 matches.. Saying Ishant is their frontline bowler it shows how worst pace attack India has. Once England win first 3 matches they will bat more and more time in two dead rubbers. And Ishant and Co will be history..

  • on July 1, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    Jadeja had been bowling with better accuracy than Ashwin for some time; but we have to wait for Ashwin's spell to make a judgement, here and now, in England. At least he (Jadeja) makes the batsmen play. On pitches with very little assistance for spinners, that may (repeat, may) probably produce some results.

  • Darkmanx12155 on July 1, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    All you haters out there will worship Ishanth after the 5 tests. Ishanth is the best bet we have right now people. He is bad in sub continent, no doubt. but in helping conditions like Australia, NZ, SA, england, he is lethal with his swing and bounce at high speeds. Buvi is good in india only. Pankaj Singh will do well if he gets picked. Shami is good too. Go Ishanth, show these haters what u got. Funny how people can forget your match winning performances so soon. I sure hope you bring us glory and show what u can do in helping conditions. All these pundits seems to forget that its ONLY you who picked up 2 wickets in the previous practice game. dhoni knows and does the best for the country. his faith in ishanth will bring him glory this time around.

  • on July 1, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Hope, that is Ishant's first and final spell in this match against the low ranked Derbyshire!

  • on July 1, 2014, 12:00 GMT

    The senior Ishant gave away 20 runs in his first 4 overs with liberal dozes of no-balls & legbyes; whereas the junior Aaron gave away just 10 in the same number, including 2 maidens. Who is leading whom?

  • on July 1, 2014, 11:50 GMT

    Our (India's) supposed to be "pace spearhead" Ishant is raining no-balls & legbyes, quite liberally in the second practice match; right now!

  • on July 1, 2014, 11:24 GMT

    we need four steamers, bhuvi for swing and Aaron for pace, pankaj for the spirit to prove a point and shami for accuracy..

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 10:29 GMT

    People are writing off Ashwin too early - true his overseas record is not impressive but he has only played 4 tests outside India! Moreover he averages nearly 40 with the bat in test cricket.

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Stuart Binny averages 36 in Indian domestic cricket and has taken 82 wickets in 55 matches - and people want him in the test team!

  • on July 1, 2014, 10:06 GMT

    The problem of the 5th bowler can be easily solved if you look a bit at SA. I have always said this that Rohit can become a good 2nd spinner for India. With responsibility and time, look how JP has improved. I am quite sure Rohit can be used in a similar fashion. Plus, extra responsibility only makes him perform better. Whoever are asking for Ashwin and Jadeja to play tests outside, in my opinion, clearly don't know test cricket. Ashwin is below average at best and Jadeja simply cannot take wickets outside. Ojha is India's best spinner and Dhoni has somehow managed to push him out of the team. Anyway, thats for an other day. Playing XI - Gambhir, Dhawan, Puji, Kohli, Rohit, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin/Binny,Ishant,Bhuvi and Shami.If Dhoni can't win this, he simply should go!

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on July 1, 2014, 9:27 GMT

    What a shame, as the author says, that India demean the intensity of these matches by refusing them first-class status by opting not to play a fixed XI. They have therefore utterly traduced the whole meaning of a test "tour". A tour was always more than the test matches - it was also about playing first class cricket against first-class sides and using the competitiveness and intensity of those matches to prepare for the test matches. At the end of a tour, we looked not just at the batting and bowling averages for the tests but also the first-class averages for the tourists. For the domestic first-class sides, it was a great opportunity to make a name and catch the eye of the selectors. Some of the great cricketing performances of yore have been in these matches - for Bradman and Ponsford and McCabe et al it was de rigeur to perform at these matches. Alas India, a country with a great history and tradition, has chosen to throw the traditions and history of cricket to the scrapheap.

  • Karsugu on July 1, 2014, 9:21 GMT

    My INDIA XI would be G Gambhir, R Sharma, C Pujara, V Kohli, MS Dhoni, S Binny, R Ashwin, R Jadeja, P Singh, I Sharma, B Kumar and as substitutes - I Sharma, V Aaron, I Pandey and M Vijay

  • BradmanBestEver on July 1, 2014, 9:09 GMT

    If Ishant is selected the English will be most pleased. Zaheer would have been a better choice and he is beyond his best. The pace bowling cupboard is bare but Ishant has had enough chances so they need to give someone else a go

  • manmishr on July 1, 2014, 8:45 GMT

    5 bowlers is a must. And that is without counting Ishant. If India wants to leave their past baggage aside and do smoething well, they should drop Ishant and play 3 front line pacers + Ashwin and Binny / Jadeja. Bhuvi is no doubt India's best bowler at the moment and he has potential to be in worlds top 5 bowlers. He wshould lead the pack with Sami and Aaron supporting him.

  • Nero28 on July 1, 2014, 7:55 GMT

    I have selected shami, pankaj ,ishant and ashwin as the go to bowlers to 1st test. Bhuvi is a run machine for opposition. Ishant got the go on the basis of performance in previous match. Aaron is the back up bowler. Binny and jadeja should be played according to demand of condition.

  • on July 1, 2014, 7:49 GMT

    India needs bowlers more than batsmen. So they should drop one of their batsmen and instead use that spot for an all-rounder. Ashwin is a must in the team as the lead spinner, while either one of Jadeja or Binny should take the all-rounder spot. I'm sure Ashwin and Jadeja/Binny will score more runs than what that seventh exclusive batsman will. Plus, we'll have five bowlers to take 20 wkts (which we haven't done in a looonng while). If this is not done, we'll never win a match. Going with Jaddu as a lead spinner will be suicidal, given how many left handed batsmen England have. Cook, Ballance, Ali, Stokes (if he comes in), Broad, Anderson, that's more than half the team of left handers. Dhoni should be looking to win and not return home with a draw, in which case, he should be removed as captain. I rather see him being aggressive and lose, than try to be defensive and draw a game. No point winning just at home and getting to No.1 in tests.

  • on July 1, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    Dhoni should play the role of what Gilchrist played for Australia at test matches..he should be aggressive from the word go..As a batsman he should be a step ahead of the bowler

  • on July 1, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    Rahane averages 60 in first class cricket..clearly he should come ahead of kohli at number 4..Kohli at 5 is ideal

  • Paul_Somerset on July 1, 2014, 7:03 GMT

    Might not be a gentle workout for the Indian batsmen if Derbyshire play Mark Footitt and Mark Turner. Both can bowl pretty fast. They also tend to provide easy runs for English batsmen in the County Championship, but some Indian batsmen not used to conditions might find them less straightforward.

  • mayuresh11 on July 1, 2014, 6:51 GMT

    my playin 11 for 1 st test is

    gambhir and rahane to open pujara , kohli dhoni , rohit (rohit @ 6 because he had temperament like laxman to bat with the 8-9-10 batsman ) biny ashwin shami aron & ishant sharma.

    what would be views of other ? biny can swing ashwin can spin aron and shami have pace and ishant god knows if it is his day ..

  • on July 1, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    My 11 : Dhawan

    Gambhir

    Pujara

    Kohli

    Rohit

    Rahane

    DHONI

    Jadeja

    Bhuvi

    Ishant

    Shami

  • on July 1, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    My pick for the first test is as follows. G Gambhir, M Vijay, C Pujara, V Kohli, A Rahane, MS Dhoni, R Jadeja/R Aswin, B Kumar, I Pandey/P Singh/V Aron/S Binny (2 from them) & M Shami.

    I am doubtful of S Dhawan and R Sharma on seaming tracks and would necessarily be out of place on such wickets and bowling the 2 spinners and I Sharma on a green track won't fetch them 20 wickets. So its all upto experimenting with the new crop of bowlers along with Shami, Kumar and Jadeja or Aswin. When ishant plays, he would be leaking around so many runs, and then the youngsters and other bowlers will be under tremendous pressure, so why don't we try a new formulae. Also I would be inclined to open with S Binny instead of M Vijay (whose temparament is rather doubtful) like what we did with S Bangar in 2002. A solid orthodox dead bat at the top and with useful tweakers and swing with the ball. We would definitely miss a V Sehwag like explosiveness at the top. Onus is on pujara to replicate a Dravid

  • ladycricfan on July 1, 2014, 5:48 GMT

    For the first test: Dhawan, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rohit/Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Jadeja, Bhuvi, Shami, Ishant

  • on July 1, 2014, 4:05 GMT

    I believe there is no point in going into the field with a combination of 7-4. If selectors have termed binny/jadeja as all rounders in the team. They should be treated as one. Dhoni needs to back his batting and let these two get a go. my 11 would be dhawan,gambhir,pujara,kohli,rahane,dhoni,binny/jadeja,ashwin,bhuvi,shami and pankaj singh

  • Humdingers on July 1, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    People are blaming the bowlers left, right and centre. However, look at the past 10 tests India have played outside of India - how many times did they bat and score 400 (or 300 for that matter)? It's a whole easier to attack 550 than it is to defend 250. Ganguly used to blame the bowlers all the time. Kumble was different and put the batsmen on notice. India's strength has always been its batting. Put up a big score and let the bowlers work on the pressure.

    Of course it all comes down to captaincy as well - something that Dohni has been found out - it was easy when he had Tendukar/Dravid/Laxman/Sehwag performing - now he has a young squad and needs to lead both tactically and with the bat - which is isn't doing on both fronts.

  • cricket_ahan on July 1, 2014, 3:19 GMT

    India need to restrict their bowling efforts to those earmarked for the starting XI, and those selected need to work together and bowl as a unit. Part of bowling is putting in the hard yards, even if you are not getting success with your initial spells. So even if they don't break through straight away, the unit must figure out a way to get batsmen out within themselves. Dhoni also needs to be on point with his fields, and find the right balance between catchers and protection, as well as placement to encourage bowlers to target the channel just outside off-stump. Am particularly looking forward to see how Pankaj and Shami back up their performances from the first game, whether Ishant gets carted again (hopefully he does and it means he doesn't get selected), and if Bhuvi manages to find his range. Dravid's involvement in the whole process will also be interesting to see.

  • Manu_reddy on July 1, 2014, 2:51 GMT

    I would like to c indian team in this order 1&2.dhavan & rahane 3.pujara 4.kohli 5.gambir 6.dhoni 7.jadeja/binny(defends on conditions) 8.ashwin(he should play as england are likely going to have 5 left handers in the team) 9.bhuvi 10.shami 11.pankaj....i have picked gambir at 5 because it will protect him from new ball n wen it comes to bhuvi someone should tell him to pitch the ball furthur up, from wat i have seen from him in his last few overseas tours no matter what the pitch conditions are he just bowled d lengths which he normally bowls in india i e good length and tat length might get him wickets in india but wen it comes to bowling in eng,sa,nzn aus he should be bowling more fuller length n then only he will be effective at his pace..

  • Manu_reddy on July 1, 2014, 2:27 GMT

    Indian bowling is like liverpool of epl n rcb of ipl because everytime we fans hope tat they r going to play well but most of d times they end up dissappointing the fans n as a fan i hope tat indian bowling ll become good if not strong n also hope to c liverpool n rcb winning d tournaments next year...i hope my hope wont remain as hope forever ra...

  • .Raina on July 1, 2014, 1:05 GMT

    What is this 'endurance test'?? These guys are supposed to be professional athletes, and if they haven't built up any stamina by now, what have they been doing so far?? You bloody work on your endurance when you are in your teens, not when you are closing up on to the 30's.......Managing fitness is an on-going part of any sports-person and this is not a boot-camp to work on that.They should be working on strategies, controlling the swing and getting their lengths right, rather than preparing like an under-12 team, that has just started getting serious about cricket.

  • Cpt.Meanster on July 1, 2014, 0:46 GMT

    It goes without saying that India must STOP relying on their batsmen for a change and improve on their bowling skills on this tour. India are powerful in limited overs cricket because their lacklustre bowling is dwarfed by the superior batting on display. However, in the long format, they are exposed like turkeys in the floodlights. They will never have a better environment than the swing friendly conditions of English grounds since we keep hearing all this talk about the Indian bowlers adept at swinging the ball. Personally, Ishant Sharma shouldn't even be in the squad. Instead, Ishwar Pandey should be given a go following a terrific Ranji season. It's time to show the world that India can also excel in the longest format and that too through their bowlers.

  • Nampally on July 1, 2014, 0:46 GMT

    Dhoni & Fletcher should take this match to prepare the XI for the first Test. The batting is more or less fixed with only openers need finalising. On the other hand the bowling is a huge ? India has a choice to go with 4 seamers + 1 spinners or 3 seamers + 2 spinners. But going with 3 specialist bowlers + 1 all rounder for a 5 day Test match as Dhoni decided in SA & NZ will spell disaster for India. Dravid's top priority as the Mentor is to convince Dhoni against such tactics used in SA & NZ. Forcing 3 pace bowlers to bowl nearly 50 overs each in the 4th innings was a No-Brainer! Based on the Form in the first match, Shami, Pankaj & Aaron bowled on target. The rest of the seamers were poor especially Ishant Sharma. So Dhoni needs these guys to bowl in the right areas on or outside the off stump - not over pitch or short pitch. They should mark such area in chalk on the net practice pitch & practice bowling. The slip catching is the other area where India is weak & focus strongly.

  • on June 30, 2014, 21:24 GMT

    . Ishant Sharma and Mohammed Shami were the only two to get wickets. ....wrong Pankaj singh did get wickets and not Shami

  • wablo55 on June 30, 2014, 21:13 GMT

    wasn't a gentle work out for the bowlers last match...

  • Vilander on June 30, 2014, 20:34 GMT

    It was not Mohd Shami, it was Pankaj Singh the giant in the picture who took the other wicket.

  • on June 30, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    Indias main challange will be about taking 20 wickets in 200-220 overs in 5 day format (when played outside the subcontinent). If cook is going to get some tactical insight, indian batting could struggle. However, england do not seem strong after being battared by sri lanka, but they could rise quickly with home advantage.

  • bhushanB on June 30, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    Welcome decision to include Dravid as the team's mentor... his experience will greatly help Pujara and Rahane.. who see him as a role model... Murali, Kohli and Rohit can also benefit.. depending on how much they are willing to learn from a mental aspect...

    At the same time BCCI should have appointed former pacebowlers well know for their fighting attitude like Akram, Donald (Akram preferrable as he would understand the Desi mind better)... Akram can greatly help with tips like how to conserve energy when needing bowl for longer periods (almost imminent) without losing intensity... And they could have even flown in Zaheer with the team, as a consultant... He can have a glimpse of his soon-imminent future....

  • Night.angel on June 30, 2014, 19:03 GMT

    Monga, get your facts right. It was Pankaj Singh who took the wicket not Mohammed Shami.

    Pankaj Singh is as tall as Ishant but build more stronger . Pankaj has got a first class bowling average of 25 whereas Ishant's is 32. Ishant's speed nowadays clock between 130-135 , which Pankaj can easily surpass. Pankaj has more experience, having bowled in Indian unresponsive pitches, he knows his trade but Ishant has no clue even in helping conditions barring the odd series in NZ.

    Pankaj is more accurate and won't give away boundary bowls unlike Ishant. So my question is why can't we replace Ishant for somebody like Pankaj who has more maturity and also has 300 first class wicket ??

  • bhushanB on June 30, 2014, 19:01 GMT

    While fitness is very important.. one should realize that it cannot be built up overnight with a couple of "Intense" sessions..... More often it would backfire as player's bodies cannot take it and will cause breakdown...

    Indian bowlers should - in my opinion - concentrate on the lengths to bowl and build strategies.. on hunting in packs... find the combination of bowlers that would cause the most damage, as well as conserve their energy levels to come back with intensity as needed...

  • bhushanB on June 30, 2014, 18:57 GMT

    Shami not participating in regular sessions is an indication he has few niggles.... This might be the reason for his not-so-great form over the last couple of months... No injury to report is more worrysome than otherwise.. as it might recreate a Zheerisque situation from 2011.... Fingers crossed...

  • Triple_A on June 30, 2014, 18:54 GMT

    Cant seem to understand why it would matter if the Indians played 11 or 18 players - they aren't in England to win 3-day First Class matches.

    I am hoping that they give their bowlers a workout first this time - all the main batsman have already faced 50-100 balls, and batting against Derbyshire bowlers isn't going to help too much. The bowlers really need to find their lines and hence need a good day in the field - when you have 6-7 bowlers in the squad, it is important that everyone gets a decent couple of spells before the first game.

    Also, I'd like to see Dhoni, Binny and Saha get a bat this time. I think the team was going for 100 balls per person in the first match - that wasn't good enough to allow the lower order to bat. Knowing the team management, they will probably start finalizing the 11, and its critical that the others dont get rusty, or lose form while sitting on the bench. We can't afford another RP Singh-case this time.

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  • Triple_A on June 30, 2014, 18:54 GMT

    Cant seem to understand why it would matter if the Indians played 11 or 18 players - they aren't in England to win 3-day First Class matches.

    I am hoping that they give their bowlers a workout first this time - all the main batsman have already faced 50-100 balls, and batting against Derbyshire bowlers isn't going to help too much. The bowlers really need to find their lines and hence need a good day in the field - when you have 6-7 bowlers in the squad, it is important that everyone gets a decent couple of spells before the first game.

    Also, I'd like to see Dhoni, Binny and Saha get a bat this time. I think the team was going for 100 balls per person in the first match - that wasn't good enough to allow the lower order to bat. Knowing the team management, they will probably start finalizing the 11, and its critical that the others dont get rusty, or lose form while sitting on the bench. We can't afford another RP Singh-case this time.

  • bhushanB on June 30, 2014, 18:57 GMT

    Shami not participating in regular sessions is an indication he has few niggles.... This might be the reason for his not-so-great form over the last couple of months... No injury to report is more worrysome than otherwise.. as it might recreate a Zheerisque situation from 2011.... Fingers crossed...

  • bhushanB on June 30, 2014, 19:01 GMT

    While fitness is very important.. one should realize that it cannot be built up overnight with a couple of "Intense" sessions..... More often it would backfire as player's bodies cannot take it and will cause breakdown...

    Indian bowlers should - in my opinion - concentrate on the lengths to bowl and build strategies.. on hunting in packs... find the combination of bowlers that would cause the most damage, as well as conserve their energy levels to come back with intensity as needed...

  • Night.angel on June 30, 2014, 19:03 GMT

    Monga, get your facts right. It was Pankaj Singh who took the wicket not Mohammed Shami.

    Pankaj Singh is as tall as Ishant but build more stronger . Pankaj has got a first class bowling average of 25 whereas Ishant's is 32. Ishant's speed nowadays clock between 130-135 , which Pankaj can easily surpass. Pankaj has more experience, having bowled in Indian unresponsive pitches, he knows his trade but Ishant has no clue even in helping conditions barring the odd series in NZ.

    Pankaj is more accurate and won't give away boundary bowls unlike Ishant. So my question is why can't we replace Ishant for somebody like Pankaj who has more maturity and also has 300 first class wicket ??

  • bhushanB on June 30, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    Welcome decision to include Dravid as the team's mentor... his experience will greatly help Pujara and Rahane.. who see him as a role model... Murali, Kohli and Rohit can also benefit.. depending on how much they are willing to learn from a mental aspect...

    At the same time BCCI should have appointed former pacebowlers well know for their fighting attitude like Akram, Donald (Akram preferrable as he would understand the Desi mind better)... Akram can greatly help with tips like how to conserve energy when needing bowl for longer periods (almost imminent) without losing intensity... And they could have even flown in Zaheer with the team, as a consultant... He can have a glimpse of his soon-imminent future....

  • on June 30, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    Indias main challange will be about taking 20 wickets in 200-220 overs in 5 day format (when played outside the subcontinent). If cook is going to get some tactical insight, indian batting could struggle. However, england do not seem strong after being battared by sri lanka, but they could rise quickly with home advantage.

  • Vilander on June 30, 2014, 20:34 GMT

    It was not Mohd Shami, it was Pankaj Singh the giant in the picture who took the other wicket.

  • wablo55 on June 30, 2014, 21:13 GMT

    wasn't a gentle work out for the bowlers last match...

  • on June 30, 2014, 21:24 GMT

    . Ishant Sharma and Mohammed Shami were the only two to get wickets. ....wrong Pankaj singh did get wickets and not Shami

  • Nampally on July 1, 2014, 0:46 GMT

    Dhoni & Fletcher should take this match to prepare the XI for the first Test. The batting is more or less fixed with only openers need finalising. On the other hand the bowling is a huge ? India has a choice to go with 4 seamers + 1 spinners or 3 seamers + 2 spinners. But going with 3 specialist bowlers + 1 all rounder for a 5 day Test match as Dhoni decided in SA & NZ will spell disaster for India. Dravid's top priority as the Mentor is to convince Dhoni against such tactics used in SA & NZ. Forcing 3 pace bowlers to bowl nearly 50 overs each in the 4th innings was a No-Brainer! Based on the Form in the first match, Shami, Pankaj & Aaron bowled on target. The rest of the seamers were poor especially Ishant Sharma. So Dhoni needs these guys to bowl in the right areas on or outside the off stump - not over pitch or short pitch. They should mark such area in chalk on the net practice pitch & practice bowling. The slip catching is the other area where India is weak & focus strongly.