India in England 2014 July 3, 2014

Whitaker expects bowler rotation

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James Whitaker has hinted that rotation of England's attack will be a feature of the compressed, five-Test series against India, even if the bowlers themselves are not fans. Whitaker, the national selector, on Wednesday unveiled a 13-man squad for the first Test, which featured six seam-bowling options.

James Anderson, Stuart Broad, Chris Jordan and Liam Plunkett played the two back-to-back Tests against Sri Lanka and Peter Moores conceded afterwards that their workloads would be monitored. Broad said he was not in favour of the idea at the series launch - "If we bowl them out cheaply we can keep playing," was his alternative - but Whitaker said he expected Ben Stokes and Chris Woakes, the other seamers in the squad, to be involved at some point over the seven weeks.

Woakes was the unused man during the Sri Lanka series, while Stokes played four Tests against Australia, picking up 15 wickets along with the only century by an England batsman during the Ashes.

"We have got five Test matches in a very short space of time and one of the reasons to include six seamers there is that we believe at some stage they're all going to play," Whitaker said. "At the start of the series, while they're talking about the Indians and strategy and tactics, it makes sense to include that group so they get the first-hand knowledge straight away.

"We would like to think that the four who get picked on the day play brilliantly well and stay fantastically fit and the world's perfect, but realistically we need a group."

Stokes is thought most likely to compete with Jordan for a place at Trent Bridge, after Plunkett took nine wickets in the defeat to Sri Lanka at Headingley. Although Anderson was named England's Man of the Series for his 12 wickets, he and Broad, who was rested during the first few weeks of the season to manage his chronic knee problem, were asked to bowl long spells and appeared below their best as the game ran away from England in Sri Lanka's second innings.

Whitaker, however, said both would be fine to begin the India series at full throttle. "We know they are 100 per cent fit, they have been passed off fit by the medical team to be included, but they did just play back-to-back Tests and there will be fatigue that builds up," he said.

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  • spot_on on July 9, 2014, 12:35 GMT

    LOL.. Pakistan ranked number 4 and the fans claim it as the only good asian side who ranks 4 wihtout playing at home. How about playing 95% of the matches at your 2nd home UAE. there is a reason some teams classify tests as Home and Away. You need to learn what an Away category actually means.

  • neil99 on July 7, 2014, 1:09 GMT

    Woakes is a wo-eful selection. He can't even cut it in the short form of the game at international level, and bowling line and lengthy to good batsmen for over upon over seems way beyond his ability.

  • on July 6, 2014, 14:08 GMT

    There will be a bowling rotation in India too, I think all 6 will play at some part of series: bhuvi, shami & probably ishant will start in 1st test but we will see binny pankaj ishwar aaron soon with the progress of series. difficult for India to win a series this time but if our batsmen can perform well, we will have world's best batting line in future

  • yorkshire-86 on July 5, 2014, 10:37 GMT

    And yet again they still dont pick the 2nd best seamer in the country in Onions...

  • on July 5, 2014, 3:48 GMT

    I don't think there's anyone questioning India's batting strength here, They just have their opinion on our bowling but there's absolutely no doubt if these bowlers bowl well then India's winning this series.. Cz England bowlers are good but they get into their shell way too quickly when they are attacked by opposition batsmen.. And Cook do helps in that by setting defensive fields too early.. Dhoni said in PC before going to England that he's gonna be aggressive but he didn't said if he was going to be aggressive when he's batting or on the field.. I hope he would be aggressive in both.. If he does that then no one can stop India from creating history on English soil.. Both teams need to play good cricket, It really is THE BIG TEST..

  • on July 5, 2014, 3:33 GMT

    @Mervo- I never said Australia isn't a good team but they did got beat in India by 4-0..The worst defeat for them in over 40 years.. Yes, They did extremely well to beat England by 5-0, That's a phenomenal achievement and they beaten SA in SA too..I am not questioning their no. 1 rank, They totally deserve it cz they played really good cricket after that drubbing they received from India..Maybe It's time for India to rise up too..

  • Mervo on July 4, 2014, 22:35 GMT

    Arun Bose - good points, but you could add that Australia are now ranked number 1 and also white washed India 3-0 here and England 5-0. I hope that India does well in England. I sense that this is their best opportunity for some time as England are not a strong side-even at home now. India have some excellent batsmen now but pace bowling is their obvious weakness.

  • THUNDERWAVE on July 4, 2014, 18:46 GMT

    there is some one from south africa said something let me remember you so called best test team ( sa) still finding single test series victory now tell mee hos comment are hilarious did not read that dont throw stone when while you are in crystal house something something

  • landl47 on July 4, 2014, 17:07 GMT

    @FFLNAH: Nice to see you here. I can't resist pointing out that after you said that Root was not good enough and I said he would make you eat your words before too long, he scored a double century in his next innings. How does that crow taste?

    As for dropping Anderson and Broad, you might be half right. Anderson is still bowling very well, but Broad didn't look 100% fit to me in the SL series. His pace was well down and he wasn't getting much nip off the pitch. I think England might be better off with Anderson, Jordan, Plunkett and Stokes as the seamers. Stokes' batting is a plus, too. However, if Broad is fit, he's a very good bowler.

    @CodandChips: the problem with your Stokes and Woakes side is that you left out Bell. That isn't going to (and shouldn't) happen. Besides, 5 seamers is just too many. If you included Stokes and Woakes, who from all accounts has added some pace this year, and dropped Broad and Jordan, I'd have less problems with that.

  • shillingsworth on July 4, 2014, 16:54 GMT

    @Charlie101 - Panesar's off field behaviour and past test record are irrelevant. He may still be a good bowler but 23 wickets in 9 D2 matches this season doesn't suggest that he is at the moment.

  • spot_on on July 9, 2014, 12:35 GMT

    LOL.. Pakistan ranked number 4 and the fans claim it as the only good asian side who ranks 4 wihtout playing at home. How about playing 95% of the matches at your 2nd home UAE. there is a reason some teams classify tests as Home and Away. You need to learn what an Away category actually means.

  • neil99 on July 7, 2014, 1:09 GMT

    Woakes is a wo-eful selection. He can't even cut it in the short form of the game at international level, and bowling line and lengthy to good batsmen for over upon over seems way beyond his ability.

  • on July 6, 2014, 14:08 GMT

    There will be a bowling rotation in India too, I think all 6 will play at some part of series: bhuvi, shami & probably ishant will start in 1st test but we will see binny pankaj ishwar aaron soon with the progress of series. difficult for India to win a series this time but if our batsmen can perform well, we will have world's best batting line in future

  • yorkshire-86 on July 5, 2014, 10:37 GMT

    And yet again they still dont pick the 2nd best seamer in the country in Onions...

  • on July 5, 2014, 3:48 GMT

    I don't think there's anyone questioning India's batting strength here, They just have their opinion on our bowling but there's absolutely no doubt if these bowlers bowl well then India's winning this series.. Cz England bowlers are good but they get into their shell way too quickly when they are attacked by opposition batsmen.. And Cook do helps in that by setting defensive fields too early.. Dhoni said in PC before going to England that he's gonna be aggressive but he didn't said if he was going to be aggressive when he's batting or on the field.. I hope he would be aggressive in both.. If he does that then no one can stop India from creating history on English soil.. Both teams need to play good cricket, It really is THE BIG TEST..

  • on July 5, 2014, 3:33 GMT

    @Mervo- I never said Australia isn't a good team but they did got beat in India by 4-0..The worst defeat for them in over 40 years.. Yes, They did extremely well to beat England by 5-0, That's a phenomenal achievement and they beaten SA in SA too..I am not questioning their no. 1 rank, They totally deserve it cz they played really good cricket after that drubbing they received from India..Maybe It's time for India to rise up too..

  • Mervo on July 4, 2014, 22:35 GMT

    Arun Bose - good points, but you could add that Australia are now ranked number 1 and also white washed India 3-0 here and England 5-0. I hope that India does well in England. I sense that this is their best opportunity for some time as England are not a strong side-even at home now. India have some excellent batsmen now but pace bowling is their obvious weakness.

  • THUNDERWAVE on July 4, 2014, 18:46 GMT

    there is some one from south africa said something let me remember you so called best test team ( sa) still finding single test series victory now tell mee hos comment are hilarious did not read that dont throw stone when while you are in crystal house something something

  • landl47 on July 4, 2014, 17:07 GMT

    @FFLNAH: Nice to see you here. I can't resist pointing out that after you said that Root was not good enough and I said he would make you eat your words before too long, he scored a double century in his next innings. How does that crow taste?

    As for dropping Anderson and Broad, you might be half right. Anderson is still bowling very well, but Broad didn't look 100% fit to me in the SL series. His pace was well down and he wasn't getting much nip off the pitch. I think England might be better off with Anderson, Jordan, Plunkett and Stokes as the seamers. Stokes' batting is a plus, too. However, if Broad is fit, he's a very good bowler.

    @CodandChips: the problem with your Stokes and Woakes side is that you left out Bell. That isn't going to (and shouldn't) happen. Besides, 5 seamers is just too many. If you included Stokes and Woakes, who from all accounts has added some pace this year, and dropped Broad and Jordan, I'd have less problems with that.

  • shillingsworth on July 4, 2014, 16:54 GMT

    @Charlie101 - Panesar's off field behaviour and past test record are irrelevant. He may still be a good bowler but 23 wickets in 9 D2 matches this season doesn't suggest that he is at the moment.

  • Tlotoxl on July 4, 2014, 16:34 GMT

    If India teams performs even just reasonably well and manage to keep Cook in the poor form he is in at the moment then they have no excuses, they should win 3 or 4 - 0

    However if the bowling performs like it has in the warm-ups then they will lose, pure and simple. Cook aside all have batted well in their last few tests, it is just a matter a few of them performing well in the same test, Indias warm up bowling would be a feast compared to the Aussies and Sri Lankans that England have just faced.

  • on July 4, 2014, 15:09 GMT

    Stuart binny is handy in England conditions

  • on July 4, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    India should not play ishanth sharma if they want to win

  • Charlie101 on July 4, 2014, 14:59 GMT

    @Shillingford Monty has played one test since India at Melbourne so whilst he has misbehaved he is still a good bowler who has taken 167 wickets at 34in tests . There is no doubt that our seamers were jaded at Headingly in the SL 2nd innings and it also seems that Cook does not want to bowl Moen Ali . If this changes in the next test and Moen Ali really performs with the ball as well as he performs with the bat or even just holds up an end I will then agree that we do not need a specialist bowler like Monty.

  • afzal501 on July 4, 2014, 14:29 GMT

    Iam a Pakistani fan, I think India has got a good chance this year to win a series in England, as they are in bad form. Only Asian team who has got g good record overseas is Pakistan, we haven't played at home in years and we still in top 4 ranking. I think Srilanka has become a very good team they are not a third best team in asia anymore at the moment they are level.

  • shillingsworth on July 4, 2014, 13:17 GMT

    @Charlie101 - Panesar isn't the bowler he was 18 months ago. For all his excellence in that series, he didn't actually 'outbowl' Swann either.

  • on July 4, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    Yes, give them all a turn. Honestly, losing doesn't matter as much as finding out what your team will be for the next 8 years and getting them settled

  • on July 4, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    @xyz_79-India have recently beaten Australia by 4-0 in our home, If you think Australia is a minnow then you must be talking abt football not cricket.. In 2008 England got beat by 5-0 and 4-0 in ODI and tests respectively in India.. We whitewashed Australia by 2-0 in 2010.. Drawn test series against SA in 2010 by 1-1 and beaten them in ODIs by 3-2.. If that's not impressive than I think you should follow cricket more intensely.. You're making lame excuses to hide your team's shortcomings at home.. Have you won a test series at home since 2009? Well.. No..

  • sidh78 on July 4, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    Sl pitches are flatest in the world.thats why above 900 runs in a inning scored in SL.wow!! also even bangaladesh batsmans score near 600 runs in a inning in SL.this shows the quality of pitches in SL.thats why most test matches in sl ended in draw.but indian pitches are spining and turning but initialy good for batting & fast seam bowling.thats why in last 30 test matches played in india, 27 matches gave result.

  • Charlie101 on July 4, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    @Shilingworth What about Monty ???? Remember he outbowled Swan in the last series in India !!!

  • SirViv1973 on July 4, 2014, 11:28 GMT

    @Brusselslion, agree re Mills. I think a lot of us were hoping he would kick on this season but looking at his stats it hasn't happened just 5 wickets at an ave of over 60 in his last 4 games. On the back of what Johnson did to us last winter & Mills first FC game of the season where he took 4-45 a lot of people on these pages had him in their XI for the first test back in Apr. To me it looked a bad call at the time & looks even worst now. I too would be interested to hear from Essex fans re Topley, I've always felt of the younger batch of seamers (late teens/early 20's) he looks like he has the most potential, though I suspect he is still at least a year away from serious consideration.

  • Vaughanographic on July 4, 2014, 11:23 GMT

    All the Indian supporter comments are hilarious!! Guys, if you beat England this series then you can talk as much as you want. At the moment I would suggest England are the slight favourites, and they just got beaten by Sri Lanka!

    As a South African fan, I'm slightly nervous for the test series in Sri Lanka - they are a tough team!

    As for England, I think it's a bit disappointing they threw away Kerrigan so soon - to go into a 5 test series without a frontline spinner is unusual to say the least! Hoping Woakes gets a go and does well - how he gets ignored is beyond me!

  • linguboy on July 4, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    @ pradeeplasantha Andd your team SL has won how many tests in Aus??? How many series have you drawn in SA??? How many series have you won in Eng??? 1, right??? India have won 3. We drew series in Aus and SA and we won a test in Perth only other teams in Asia can dream of. Go and preach somewhere. And how many Limited overs trophies did SL win outside of subcontinent??? Mahela have a terrible average for a great outside subcontinent.

  • Proteas_Power on July 4, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    @Arun Bose: "Atleast we win at home on the other hand SL still loses to us and many teams at home convincingly"--What r u talking about by whom we lost test matches in Lanka? I think last time only Australia in 2010 was able to beat us in our own den so then what England beats Indian team in ur own country. At least we were defeated by Aussies the most tough team to beat in world cricket IMO. And whom you beat in your home grounds W.Indies, N.Zealand, Bangladesh LOL. Invite these countries & won some matches in India then compare India with SL. Did India ever beat any giant team in India. Never only minnows!! And what happens to SA in lanka world should see by themselves.

  • pradeeplasantha on July 4, 2014, 10:28 GMT

    @Asho and Arun, do you want me to remind you how pathetic India got thrashed my England ,Australia and South Africa during last tours, may be you have forgotten that dark hurting history. Sorry you do well against Bangladesh in Bangladesh but not against other team in Bangladesh.

  • on July 4, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    @pradeeplasantha- If Indian wickets were that easy to play at then why did SL hasn't won even a single test match in India where as India has won many series in SL? Explain this phenomenon..

  • brusselslion on July 4, 2014, 10:17 GMT

    Would be nice to see a bit of variation in the mix i.e. a left armer. Doesn't look like Mills has pulled up any trees so far this season, but I noticed that Topley has had a couple of recent '5 fors'. Can any Essex supporters supply a bit more detail? Thanks.

  • shillingsworth on July 4, 2014, 10:16 GMT

    @Charlie101 - England no longer have such a bowler. He retired last year.

  • on July 4, 2014, 10:11 GMT

    Me too always Indian supporter. I just put forward my concern about current Indian team situation. England also in team building phase. But still they have match winning players. Specially they have far more top bowling attack than India. Dhoni experience to rotate bowlers according to England players are so important

  • on July 4, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    @pradeeplasantha- Atleast we win at home on the other hand SL still loses to us and many teams at home convincingly.. I don't think there's any bigger disgrace than losing at home with home crowds totally behind you with all the pomp and saxophones and drums.. Well if you talk abt flat tracks then the flattest of all in the whole world is the colombo track.. And legends like Sanga and Mahela had feasted on that and bulked up their averages to keep their name in history books bcz history books don't care abt where those runs were scored cz it doesn't matter to history books but to us humans it matters.. Ppl don't throw stones at others' houses when their own house is made of glass.. It can deflect back and break those glasses into rubble..Have a good day..

  • RapidCommentsPlz on July 4, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    @pradeeplasantha will you try explaining what on earth you are trying to say??lolzz!where did you get that from "even struggle in bangladesh" ,"own back yard heroes"!! Is it because of so much matches you have seen sl playng on their dead pitches??? Or are you just trying to tell that SL are the MIGHTIES?? LOLZZ!!

  • sidh78 on July 4, 2014, 9:56 GMT

    Sl pitches are flatest in the world.thats why above 900 runs in a inning scored in SL.wow!! also even bangaladesh batsmans score near 600 runs in a inning in SL.this shows the quality of pitches in SL.thats why most test matches in sl ended in draw.but indian pitches are spining and turning but initialy good for batting & fast seam bowling.thats why in last 30 test matches played in india, 27 matches gave result.

  • pradeeplasantha on July 4, 2014, 9:45 GMT

    @asho, good point, I remember Sanga and mahela piled up runs against southafrica in Sri Lanka. I think that was around 600 odds. However we still won the match and that was against mighty SA. Let me get straight this we are making the point is, India is ownback yard Heros. They even struggle in Bangladesh. That is what India should try and change if they can. But I am not sure they can do it. That is why I said try and encourage more matches in India. Hope u got my point mate.

  • Naresh28 on July 4, 2014, 9:29 GMT

    @pradeeplasantha - you talk of Indias backyard pitches. We have beaten you on yours in the past.

  • RapidCommentsPlz on July 4, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    @ pradeeplasantha lolz ask sanga and mahela how they piled up runs!!! Congratulations for making flat tracks so your batsmen can score runs and then you can come up here to laud their average!!Congratulations!!

  • pradeeplasantha on July 4, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    @Arun, it is not me that labeled India is its own backyard heroes, by themselves. I mean you do have good crickets hopefully they will remove that label in the future. However by that time!what BCCI should do is , try and organise more Test matches in India to make sure Indian cricket fans are happy and cheerful. Also producing more and more flat turfs so that Indian batsmen can pile up runs which will also make Indian fans happy......

  • on July 4, 2014, 8:28 GMT

    @Jube- No one's blind here, We know they didn't won in SA & NZ but fought hard being such an inexperienced team, I will bet that no other team with such an inexperienced line-up could have survived SA & NZ and would have simply surrendered but India didn't, If you're a strong supporter then atleast give them credit for that.. Winning abroad comes with experience and they are improving so what if they didn't won a series abroad yet..They might win this one and that too in a big way..Why do you want to stop us from believing in them? Just because you don't? That's preposterous mate.. I am the biggest, ever optimistic, die hard fan of my team.. You or anyone can't shake my belief for even an inch.. No one can.. No one could.. India is my team and I will support them even in afterlife and my soul will cheer for them from the stands..#Bleedblueforeternity

  • SirViv1973 on July 4, 2014, 8:21 GMT

    @Cod&Chips - Re your 5 seamer idea, I still can't agree with you on this one. As you say yourself Cook tends to rely heavily on Anderson and I don't think that will change a great deal even if he has 5 frontline seamers at his disposal. I don't think it would be an easy job for any captain to rotate 5 fast bowlers as they will not all look effective on the same surface & naturally the 3 or 4 most effective looking will do the vast majorty of the bowling & the 1 or 2 least effective will bowl very little. If we are to consider Moen the front line spinner then it effectivley means we would be going in with a 6 man attack. Yes Stokes & Woakes bat but neither is a specialist batsman. Stokes did get a 100 in Aus but he would not have been picked in the first place if he couldn't bowl as well. A 6 man attack is just too big a luxury for any test side.

  • on July 4, 2014, 7:55 GMT

    @pradeeplasantha- Concentrate on SA series right now bcz they looking determined to dismantle SL.. The amount of euphoria in winning a test series abroad is equal to the amount of utter disgrace to lose at home and SL hasn't won a test series at home since 2009.. That's why concentrate on ur team for the moment.. SL should never take SA lightly even in their dreams, The most feared bowling attack of SA can rip apart any team any where around the world.. Pitches don't matter for them.. The no.1 bowler in the world has arrived on your shores, Treat him with respect or he will rip your team apart.. Yes, I am talking abt the "STEYN GUN"..

  • Jube on July 4, 2014, 7:52 GMT

    @Arun Bose and others: I too am a strong Indian supporter and would love them to win but its one thing to be diehard and another to be simply blind. Lets face facts - India have hardly ever done well let alone won overseas. That is why we feel so good when we fight and draw. Even when we had a relatively high class batting line up, we just about competed at times overseas - and that to a large extent was and is because of a mediocre bowling lineup fed on flat pitches. Full credit to Sri Lanka for pulling it over England in the last test - and that was testimony to a potent bowling attack and good character shown in batting. I do not see anything of the former in the current Indian team and as far as the batting goes I think its only Kohli, Pujara and possibly Rahane to an extent. 3-0 England is what I sadly think if India is lucky.....

  • Charlie101 on July 4, 2014, 7:46 GMT

    They have to rotate the seamers because we are not playing an outright spinner who can tie up 1 end . Crazy policy

  • pradeeplasantha on July 4, 2014, 7:19 GMT

    India have a massive challenge to win the Test match series in England as they always struggle abroad. They even struggle to play in Bangladesh. It is very obvious India only good in India and they should play tier 2 in abroad. England has a very good chance to wrap up the series in style.

  • on July 4, 2014, 7:11 GMT

    Great job Arun Bose. I am also frustrated with the Sri Lankan supporters. India has always helped Sri Lanka. Till last year India was playing so many matches with Sri Lanka that people were bored of it. I don't know why so much hate towards India. Ok, your team has been playing well this year. Enjoy that feeling. You don't have to come into each India article and blast us. If you hate us so much, then ignore India articles. We as India supporters always love our Asian team and enjoyed your win as well.

  • on July 4, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    @Peacelikefire_Samrat- No mate you're wrong, SL hasn't won a single test match in India even when murli was there in SL team.. Winning a series in India is like fantasy for SL..

  • on July 4, 2014, 6:34 GMT

    @Sujan Perera- 3-0 to SA in both ODIs and tests against SL.. Morkel, steyn, Philander, Mclaren all will eat through the fragile batting line up of SL..

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on July 4, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    Or is this the polite way of dropping Anderson and Broad? Perhaps they should do keeper and captain rotation as well.....

  • on July 4, 2014, 6:27 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug- We will see who will be laughing in the end.. I am frustrated with all the negative comments abt India even before the series has started.. What abt that? Huh? Is it justified? As a die hard Indian fan, I will step up for my team and blast anyone who talks ill abt my team..

  • on July 4, 2014, 6:24 GMT

    @Sanjaya Dias- Then let the series start first, How can you assume that they will do badly even before a single ball's bowled? Let the series start and you will see what's Indian batting line up is all about..Pujara will definitely get two or three big grand daddy hundreds(Double ton)and Kohli as usual gonna blast bowlers all around the park, Even Rahane will display his mettle as a test batsman and Dhoni will surely fire big this time(If he gets chance to bat).. We don't have any legends in our team right now but they are hugely talented and are future legends for India.. Just wait for five days more..

  • on July 4, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    With fresh bowling attack England can target only two Indian technical correct batsmen kholi and pujara. Others may not stay longer in swing conditions. Predict 3-0 to England

  • CodandChips on July 4, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Not sure if this is good or bad.

    Rotation is good. Especially while we are trying to pick ourselves off the ground. But Whittaker implies that this will be the squad for the whole series. Which means rotation will be limited.

    @landl47 agree with you re Cook bowling bowlers into the ground. Especially Anderson who is the only bowler he appears to have any confidence in. My way of getting around it for this test was to play both Woakes and Stokes as I posted on the other thread. It would force Cook to rotate his seamers.

  • on July 4, 2014, 6:19 GMT

    5-0 for England....................................................................

  • Pacelikefire_Samrat on July 4, 2014, 5:59 GMT

    Finally after waiting for eons,Sri Lanka wins a test series abroad and seems they are still not able to get over that shock.All the focus is already on the upcoming India-England series,already the previous series has faded into obscurity and still I see Sri Lankans shooting their mouths off.U have never won in a series in india when ur so called "legends" were around,stuttering their stuff,ur never gonna win any in the future.After murali quit,u have won just 2 test series at home.Once Sanga n Mahela leave,i wager ur not going to win even a test match.First look at urselves before talking about India.

  • on July 4, 2014, 5:57 GMT

    Mate I am talking about recent history. Even Tendulkar made his last century August 2002 headingly in england. Vensakar done in eighties. We are talking abt now and need to perform well this time. I am talking with fact

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on July 4, 2014, 5:51 GMT

    It's not a bad idea given that Jimmy and Broad aren't near top form partly because Cook can't captain them properly. The options don't look too bad and given all the talk of dry pitches there will be a lot of bowling to do. @Arun Bose, don't take the banter here personally otherwise you'll be in for a long summer. Should be a good series with India taking home all the trophies.

  • on July 4, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    @Sanjaya Dias- I think you know nothing abt Indian cricket..Gavaskar, Vengsarkar(He's the only visiting batsman to score three hundreds @Lord's), Ganguly(Debut hundred at lord's), Sachin Tendulkar(The highest run-getter in England)..We have many batsmen who performed brilliantly in England.. Don't just comment anything, First check stats and then comment otherwise it looks quite lame..

  • niazbhi on July 4, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    One or two of PK, Shami and Pandey will do well.. I am not sure whether Indian batsmen will do well. Both teams will play a lot of allrounders Stokes, Moeen, Jadega, Binny, Ashwin. Jordan and Broad can bat too.

  • Greatest_Game on July 4, 2014, 3:52 GMT

    @ Shaun Adams seems puzzled. "Don't agree with this myself, if they are bowling well and are nearly unplayable …"

    Shaun. The chances of them being nearly unplayable are zero. Just ask Angelo Mqthews. If the Lankans found them easily playable, so will the Indians. The Jimmy and Stewie show is so far from unplayable that …………. the selectors picked 6 seamers because they have not a clue what will happen. Don't you get it? They have no faith in Anderson & Broad. Broad's grand statements are his way of trying not to be dropped. But he is barely a med pacer these days, and is not doing much with the ball. A lot with the mouth, yes, but that does not take 20 wickets, does it. Broad can say what he likes - they are NOT going to be "unplayable."

    The only time they will be unplayable is when they are not picked. Cant play em then, and that is about that!

  • Greatest_Game on July 4, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    @ Die_Hard_Indian_Cricket_Lover on is emphatic: "As an Indian fan we would accept nothing less than 3-0 series win."

    Be prepared to be disappointed, and be prepared to accept 5 boring draws… if your batsmen don't let you down! Neither team has the bowling to take 20 wickets, unless the opposing batsmen fail to show up. Even then each team's tail could probably bat for two days.

  • gopi_dhillon on July 4, 2014, 2:59 GMT

    this is going to be a bad prolonged series between 2 struggling teams. only solace is the batting of pujara and kohli. everything else in this series is going to be so ridiculously below class. sigh.

  • Indian_Kari_Pakku on July 4, 2014, 2:47 GMT

    After won the practice match yesterday India entering the test series with lot of confident while England had recently lost the Test series to SL. India is obviously the tournament favourites while England are under dogs. As an Indian fan we would accept nothing less than 3-0 series win. All the best boys.

  • landl47 on July 4, 2014, 2:26 GMT

    One thing that would help England's bowlers stay fresh is if Cook didn't bowl them in 8-10 over spells. Anderson bowled for an hour and a half, 10 overs, to start the second test. Jordan started with an 8-over spell. Strike bowlers just can't handle that sort of workload and stay sharp. Give them 3-5 overs, then a break, and they'll be able to come back fresher and better, not only in the same game, but from test to test.

    If you only have 3 seamers and it's a seaming wicket it can be hard to juggle them so they each get enough rest, but Cook has the luxury of 4 decent seamers at his disposal. Wasting that advantage by bowling them into the ground is just plain bad captaincy. The excuse "He looked like getting a wicket" doesn't wash- looking like getting wickets isn't getting wickets.

    Frequent bowling changes also prevent the batsmen from settling in and getting their timing right. This is one area where Michael Clarke has been excellent- Cook needs to learn from his example.

  • Ms.Cricket on July 4, 2014, 1:52 GMT

    O the poor souls, they work so hard and yet the team loses!

  • on July 4, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    When a team is playing poorly rotation seems to be the norm. When a team is playing well it stays the same. Rotation has become a fancy word for being dropped.

  • on July 4, 2014, 0:24 GMT

    Except Dravid in recent history Indian batsmen never perform well in England. They will struggle against tall swing bowlers from England line. Be low par Indian bowlers also not sure to get 20 english wickets in each match

  • on July 3, 2014, 22:00 GMT

    Don't agree with this myself, if they are bowling well and are nearly unplayable why change them for someone of lesser skill who could get smacked around the ground. It will be good for lasted series but at the start keep your best and win matches then there is less pressure later in the season

  • on July 3, 2014, 21:14 GMT

    Their are no positives for India its only England domestic team and they can not bowl out once.They should much worried about it.

  • kc69 on July 3, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    I dont know why but I feel English are looking way too overconfident.Last time when English whitewashed India Strauss, KP,Trott, Swann and Finn had a huge role but with none of them England doesnt look invincible .Looks like 50 50 chances for both teams.

  • on July 3, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    So the best six seamers dissent include Finn? Check out his stats and sage Every 8 overs he gets a wicket Better than all the others

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 3, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    Pretty much what some of the guys (Nutcutlet; SirViv1973; etc. - well done!) - were saying on the previous thread. I think this is a good thing really; it rests the players and should hopefully give more opportunities to the likes of Woakes, who otherwise seemed destined to be the perennial 12th man. I think it also creates more onus on the bowlers to perform better, as (too many) poor performances will have them constantly peeping over their shoulders at the fringe players capable of replacing them more frequently than they'd like.

  • Cricsnake on July 3, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    What happened to Steven Finn? If he's fit he must be included in the squad. This policy seems positive for me. But the Englishmen should utilize their pace options to get maximum output. Selecting the right combination is the key factor.

  • on July 3, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    yes wear out the bowlers india and launch an assualt on the 4th and 5th test and take it 2-0 it will be the best bet we need kohli and rahane to hold up ends along with puji and we are gonna win good luck guys and bleed blue!!!!

  • NWorsn on July 3, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    This is the selection tactic that was universally panned in Australia. An awful strategy, selecting on the basis of potential (not actual!) injuries. I pity the day that Anderson or Broad are 'rested' from a Test match because of Whitaker's Brave New World policy.

  • 2MikeGattings on July 3, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    Bowling Moeen at some stage would be a plus, too.

  • on July 3, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    Couldn't they just schedule series properly? 3 ODI's against Sri Lanka was enough, and 3 against India with an extra T20 would space this series out far better!

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  • on July 3, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    Couldn't they just schedule series properly? 3 ODI's against Sri Lanka was enough, and 3 against India with an extra T20 would space this series out far better!

  • 2MikeGattings on July 3, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    Bowling Moeen at some stage would be a plus, too.

  • NWorsn on July 3, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    This is the selection tactic that was universally panned in Australia. An awful strategy, selecting on the basis of potential (not actual!) injuries. I pity the day that Anderson or Broad are 'rested' from a Test match because of Whitaker's Brave New World policy.

  • on July 3, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    yes wear out the bowlers india and launch an assualt on the 4th and 5th test and take it 2-0 it will be the best bet we need kohli and rahane to hold up ends along with puji and we are gonna win good luck guys and bleed blue!!!!

  • Cricsnake on July 3, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    What happened to Steven Finn? If he's fit he must be included in the squad. This policy seems positive for me. But the Englishmen should utilize their pace options to get maximum output. Selecting the right combination is the key factor.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 3, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    Pretty much what some of the guys (Nutcutlet; SirViv1973; etc. - well done!) - were saying on the previous thread. I think this is a good thing really; it rests the players and should hopefully give more opportunities to the likes of Woakes, who otherwise seemed destined to be the perennial 12th man. I think it also creates more onus on the bowlers to perform better, as (too many) poor performances will have them constantly peeping over their shoulders at the fringe players capable of replacing them more frequently than they'd like.

  • on July 3, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    So the best six seamers dissent include Finn? Check out his stats and sage Every 8 overs he gets a wicket Better than all the others

  • kc69 on July 3, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    I dont know why but I feel English are looking way too overconfident.Last time when English whitewashed India Strauss, KP,Trott, Swann and Finn had a huge role but with none of them England doesnt look invincible .Looks like 50 50 chances for both teams.

  • on July 3, 2014, 21:14 GMT

    Their are no positives for India its only England domestic team and they can not bowl out once.They should much worried about it.

  • on July 3, 2014, 22:00 GMT

    Don't agree with this myself, if they are bowling well and are nearly unplayable why change them for someone of lesser skill who could get smacked around the ground. It will be good for lasted series but at the start keep your best and win matches then there is less pressure later in the season