England v India, 3rd Investec Test, Ageas Bowl, 3rd day

Anderson and Broad give England control

The Report by George Binoy

July 29, 2014

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India 323 for 8 (Rahane 54, Dhoni 50*, Anderson 3-52, Broad 3-65) trail England 569 for 7 dec (Bell 167, Ballance 156, Cook 95, Buttler 85) by 246 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Highlights: England seamers peg India back

For almost two whole days India's bowlers had laboured on a surface that appeared docile. On the third, James Anderson showed them how it's done. He ran in with verve, hitting the pitch hard, swinging and seaming deliveries in both directions at pace, and whistling short balls past noses. And he did it right through the day - Anderson's first bouncer was as mean as his last. England kept dismissing batsmen after they were set and, frustratingly for India, before they could make their starts count.

Seven of India's top eight batsmen made it past 20. Five fell before 40 and Ajinkya Rahane threw it away on 54. There were six partnerships of more than 30, two over 50, but a highest of 74. While India's batsmen were consistently tested, the fact that most of them got in proved the conditions were far from unplayable. They will kick themselves for giving part-time offspinner Moeen Ali two wickets, and fervently hope MS Dhoni, unbeaten on 50, can bat deep into the fourth morning with the tail to try and prevent their 1-0 series lead from crumbling in Southampton.

That England were two wickets away from a defining first-innings lead was down to Anderson and Broad. Their speed made a world of difference, because the conditions overhead and underfoot remained largely the same. Anderson beat Cheteshwar Pujara first ball with his stock outswinger, and also knifed in inswingers with a startling degree of movement. There was serious heat on his bouncers too. One angled in sharply to the right-hander, reared up and seamed away, forcing M Vijay off his toes into a desperate fend. Chris Woakes was airtight at the other end, with figures of 7-5-10-0 in the first session.

Despite India being subjected to a stern examination, England were wicketless early on and the batsmen were scoring briskly. Broad brought results with a short ball against Pujara, who swayed out of the line but did not drop his wrists, underestimating the amount of jag into him. The ball grazed his gloves and gave Jos Buttler his first Test dismissal.

Chris Jordan offered India respite. There were five wides and two sumptuous drives - Virat Kohli past cover and Vijay through mid-off - in his first over. At his best, Jordan was economical, and he posed little threat. It remained that way.

Broad then struck the blow that won the morning decisively for England. He had Vijay beaten by an outswinger, and the batsman was indecisive when the next ball landed on a similar line and length. Vijay began to play and then tried to pull his bat away. Too late. Broad's delivery held its line and hit the stumps off the inside edge of Vijay's withdrawing bat.

India's situation could have worsened before lunch when Rahane, on 8, gloved Moeen's offbreak down the leg side to Buttler, but the umpire did not see it.

It was a different game after the break when Anderson and Broad weren't bowling. Rahane drove Moeen through covers, Kohli did the same to Woakes, who was not as economical as he had been earlier. While he treated Anderson with caution, Kohli slashed at Jordan's wide offering, edging it over the cordon. Rahane did not score off Anderson's first 18 balls to him.

Anderson's reward came late, but his prize was Kohli, who was half-forward as he half-pushed at an outswinger and edged to slip. He had left so many similar deliveries previously. India were 136 for 4 and Rohit Sharma started shakily, defending tentatively and seasoning the inside edge of his bat. One leading edge off Jordan, as Rohit tried to flick, nearly went to slip. Rahane, on the other hand, punched Jordan for successive fours, and pulled Woakes to the midwicket boundary.

The partnership was going well - it had grown to 74 - when Rohit decided to repeat his successful loft over mid-off against Moeen. This time he holed out to Broad and fell over his bat in disappointment. India had made 106 runs in the session, but Rohit falling with minutes to tea was a body blow.

The Indians saw worse early in the final session. With scoring opportunities scarce against the better bowlers, Rahane rightly tried to pull a long-hop from Moeen to the boundary. He top edged it, though, and watched it horror as midwicket settled under the catch. England's part-timer had thoroughly outbowled India's specialist spinner Ravindra Jadeja, the next man in.

He and Dhoni put on a feisty half-century partnership against the second new ball. Jadeja drove Broad for four and was dropped a few balls later, a tough chance to Joe Root at gully. He charged both Anderson and Broad and clubbed them down the ground, and was also beaten several times. Dhoni drove, played and missed, glanced and survived. Jadeja did not, struck plumb in front by a sharp inswinger from the relentless Anderson.

Bhuvneshwar Kumar, India's most consistent batsman this series, was scoreless for 16 balls, but when he began to get going he put Broad away three times in an over to the point boundary. Broad, however, had the final say, and with Bhuvneshwar caught at slip off the inside edge and pad, England had emphatically won their ninth consecutive session in this Test.

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Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 18:08 GMT)

battling 90 overs is possible and bulk of it will be carried out by rahane and rohit. .

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 18:07 GMT)

We could definitely see some resilience from rahane and rohit to keep for a draw. .India definitely has it's moments tomorrow. .will come good..

Posted by Oracle_Magus on (July 30, 2014, 15:11 GMT)

The match is now at an interesting Juncture 445 Runs to win in about 130 overs for India and England has to take 10 Indian wickets before that. Now the Inclusion of Rohit does not look bad at all. In this pitch the additional bowler would not have helped much. But we need to see, if the ploy of the extra batsmen will be fruitful. The best approach for India will be that Each batsmen has to resort to their natural game. Dhawan / MSD / Kohli and Jadeja are threatening only if they play their aggressive game. Otherwise it will be an agonisingly long stay for them at the crease and no runs to show for the effort. As long as the Indians remain docile, Broad and Anderson will fancy their chances. But a counter attack will definitely throw them off balance. Looking forward for a positive approach from the Indian Batsmen . Best of luck boys. Cheers!!!

Posted by brusselslion on (July 30, 2014, 12:44 GMT)

@ Captain_Tuk_Tuk: Sorry your explanation doesn't wash with me. England are 1 down, and therefore need to win. Moreover, Anderson is likely to miss, at least, one Test. Plunkett, Stokes (and, perhaps, Finn) can be brought in if Broad or others are too tired. Poor, negative captaincy irrespective of what is the final result.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 12:12 GMT)

@Dinuth Yapa…India won comfortable the Lords test (with 2 sessions remaining) unlike in penultimate ball and avoided the loss in last ball….im damn sure that India continue her lead 1-0

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 12:09 GMT)

@Lion_Wallaby..India and SL is playing together since from 40 years, subcontinent countries…but still SL unable to win SINGLE TEST against India in India…at least India won a test in all parts against all countries in their soil…SL is yet to achieve this in India and Australia …outside subcontinent yet to win one ICC tournament (India won all 3 ICC tournaments)…

Coming to this match, still India can save this game…moving forward to next match with 1-0 lead..plz publish

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (July 30, 2014, 12:08 GMT)

Dhawan will score a 50 ball century to put pressure on England. Kohli and Pujara will then finish off the chase.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 12:02 GMT)

@Lion_Wallaby..India and SL is playing together since from 40 years, subcontinent countries…but still I wonder why SL unable to win SINGLE TEST against India in India…at least India won a test in all parts against all countries in their soil…SL is yet to achieve this in India and Australia….probably this unique record will remain forever…India won almost all ODI series which it played last year…Celkon series by defeating SL in WI, CT 2013 by defeating England in England, against Australia 3-2, against England 4-1, against SL lot of matches in last two years…many more, but SL won only in BD (Asia cup+T20 WC) and in England 3-2, lost both ODI and test series against SA in HOME…outside subcontinent yet to win one ICC tournament (India won all 3 ICC tournamnets)…

Coming to this match, still India can save this game…moving forward to next match with 1-0 lead..plz publish

Posted by VinodGupte on (July 30, 2014, 11:57 GMT)

Time to drop shami, jadeja, nohit sharma and dhawan.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 11:57 GMT)

@Lion_Wallaby..India and SL is playing together since from 40 years, subcontinent countries…but still I wonder why SL unable to win SINGLE TEST against India in India…at least India won a test in all parts against all countries in their soil…SL is yet to achieve this in India and Australia….probably this unique record will remain forever…India won almost all ODI series which it played last year…Celkon series by defeating SL in WI, CT 2013 by defeating England in England, against Australia 3-2, against England 4-1, against SL lot of matches in last two years…many more, but SL won only in BD (Asia cup+T20 WC) and in England 3-2, lost both ODI and test series against SA in HOME…outside subcontinent yet to win one ICC tournament (India won all 3 ICC tournamnets)…

Coming to this match, still India can save this game…moving forward to next match with 1-0 lead..plz publish

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 11:56 GMT)

@Lion_Wallaby…I thought on spin friendly pitch, 110 overs are sufficient for spinners to bundle out SA batsmen, who wont play spin well…but after bowling 80 overs, unable to take 10 wickets…food for thought

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 11:55 GMT)

It was sad to see the Indian batting trying to play out time instead of trying to score runs in the first innings. Not to take any credit from Broad or Anderson, I thought they were fantastic. However, they were helped along by some totally unimaginative and spineless Indian batting. Any bowler will start looking dangerous if the batsman cannot take advantage of the bad deliveries. The unfortunate truth is, EVERY TIME A TEAM PLAYED FOR A DRAW THEY ENDED UP LOSING the game.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 11:49 GMT)

Its englands game now.. India isnt good as their fans think ... Got lot to improve.. Better dhoni make a call to Angelo Matthews and ask how SL defeated england..

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 11:46 GMT)

@Lion_Wallaby…I thought on spin friendly pitch, 110 overs are sufficient for spinners to bundle out SA batsmen, who wont play spin well…but after bowling 80 overs, unable to take 10 wickets…food for thought

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 11:45 GMT)

India's team selection and slip fielding are the reasons for the situation we are in at the moment. Pankaj Singh, to me seems like a workhorse, but he doesn't have that discipline to succeed at this level. I never thought I'd say this, but India are missing Ishant. Bhuvneshwar has done a decent job, and the reason he couldn't do as much as Anderson, Broad is cos he doesn't have their pace. Shami, who does have pace, has been miserably disappointing to watch. I don't want to talk about Jadeja's bowling. With Ishant out, India needed Aaron, just for his pace, and like Ishant, when on song, Aaron is as good as Steyn /Morkel/Johnson. Even after seeing the short ball fetch wickets, it's a shocker that India have gone on without a single bowler capable of getting the ball to rear up on the batsmen. Binny's exclusion was right, but Rohit's inclusion wasn't. Ashwin could've done something against the 5 left handers in the line up. Next test, Shami, Pankaj, Rohit out, Aaron, Ishant, Ashwin in.

Posted by Captain_Tuk_Tuk on (July 30, 2014, 11:43 GMT)

@brusselslion Cook wants to give rest to his bowlers this is 5 Test series and still 2 more to go.

Posted by MichaelBurton on (July 30, 2014, 11:42 GMT)

Had Rahane not been that lucky when he was 8, England could have enjoyed nearly 300 lead.

Posted by MichaelBurton on (July 30, 2014, 11:41 GMT)

Had Rahane not been that lucky when he was 8, England could have enjoyed nearly 300 lead.

Posted by whocareswhowins on (July 30, 2014, 11:33 GMT)

Dhoni going back to his default setting (poor team selection, picking only 4 bowlers, negative and defensive captaincy) has already hurt India. Back to square 1 then. The terrible slip-catching, missed stumpings etc have all weighed in. From being 1-0 up in a 5-match series, with 3 to play, any captain worth his salt (e.g. Clarke or McCullum) would have strangled England with attacking play. But NOT our dear leader Dhoni !! Ably supported by an equally defensive Duncan Fletcher, he has decided to go defensive and try and protect a tenuous 1-0 lead ! How pathetic is that? Now, India are staring defeat in the face and instead of winning this series possibly 2-0, are likely to go down 3-1. And yet, none of the so-called 'stalwarts' Gavaskar, Shastri, Ganguly or Dravid have the guts to say it like it is. Given the Indian psyche, Dhoni will cling on and on until after the 2015 WC. Ian Chappell was partly right: Dhoni NEEDS to go, but Kohli is not the right man (yet).

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 11:07 GMT)

England should win surely win this (y)

Posted by brusselslion on (July 30, 2014, 10:56 GMT)

Anderson & Broad must be in need of a rest following their exertions this morning, so it's no surprise that Cook decided to bat again. Seriously, I don't get it. Is Cook expecting Ali & Root to spin India out on the last day? I half hope that we build up a lead of 400+, that India find themselves 150-8 tomorrow lunchtime, and that it then p@sses down for the rest of the day. Glad that Cook has found a bit of form with the bat, but new captain pleaassse!

Posted by Hanumall on (July 30, 2014, 10:55 GMT)

The equation is simple now. Can India bat for four sessions and save the match (third session on day 4 and three sessions on day 5). With the wicket playing reasonably and no pressure for scoring runs India's nine batsmen should be able to just block and survive the 120 overs. They survived almost that long in four of five innings on this tour so far.

Posted by spot_on on (July 30, 2014, 10:46 GMT)

What makes other call Pujara the next Dravid when he just is failing miserably abroad. LOL.. The Wall cannot be certainly replaced. Cricket is coded in his genes.

Posted by Lion_Wallaby on (July 30, 2014, 10:44 GMT)

@vkias: your prediction was superb!!! Though they couldn't last until lunch they survived 5 overs!!

Posted by Puffin on (July 30, 2014, 10:42 GMT)

It's probably a good thing England's first innings lead is small enough not to temp Cook into the follow on, those bowlers (ie, Anderson and Broad) need the rest, and Cook needs to learn to be more aggressive overall - playing safe clearly isn't going to work. They need to bash 200-ish runs quick and get the Indians back in.

As for England's bowlers, there's only the two abovementioned which are worth of the name. Let's try not to worry about the situation once Anderson retires. It's going to be "interesting".

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 10:39 GMT)

What about making India play on. Does this mean English bowlers are not fit to bowl a second time around?

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 10:39 GMT)

Dhoni will always(test) when ever hoping to score big bcoz of his poor techinique

Posted by wapuser on (July 30, 2014, 10:34 GMT)

Poor fielding had dent India 200 runs short in first innings and let England to come back in series.

Posted by Mervo on (July 30, 2014, 10:33 GMT)

Catches win matches. India dropped far too many and let England off the hook. Any rain and its a draw, and probably will be anyway. Kohli can't keep failing and Pujara has to do well at some stage.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 10:31 GMT)

thanks cook for batting again !

Posted by kanjithem on (July 30, 2014, 10:26 GMT)

Yet again India has gone overseas and, yet again, has played a team in slump back into form through a bewildering display that lacked any sense of professionalism. Well done fellows, keep at it. One day, you will get your due recognition for promoting cricket in foreign lands. The win at Lords was obviously an aberration. Second innings beckons - let's see whether you can make me eat my words. Happy to be corrected.

Posted by crazycricfan007 on (July 30, 2014, 10:25 GMT)

They polished it quickly. India will loose for sure. The batsmen are not playing positively, looks too defensive to me on such track. Anderson and Broad has bowled well though. I think lord's win was more of England playing badly than India playing better.

Posted by Lion_Wallaby on (July 30, 2014, 9:58 GMT)

@vkias; England yes but that other team NO!! and who cares whether you have you players or experience players???? Who really cares?? That other team you referring got the top 4 highest run getters for year 2014 and there are 4 bowlers in the top ten wicket takers too!!!! There is a difference between a team loses once a year and a team that wins once a year!!! plz publish

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 9:38 GMT)

It is all up to MSD now. If he can survive for 1.5-2 season then may be India has chance to pull a draw.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 9:28 GMT)

contd...try managing the expectations of a 100 people and see how it weighs you down..now multiply that by infinity...that is what dhoni has to deal with every time he steps on the field...gilchrist was a good counter attacking player, there is absolutely no doubt about that..but he is no match for dhoni as a complete cricketer, i.e. in terms of handling players, handling pressure..he is second to none in these aspects..he may struggle occasionally when the ball is seaming and swinging around but that's only because those conditions are alien to him the same way subcontinent conditions are allien to non subcontinent keepers..

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 9:20 GMT)

every pacer needs some wickets to get the inspiration and keep running in... with India dropping catches regularly you couldn't expect the same from pankaj Singh and bhuvi ... also England bowlers who were fresh and raring to go were bowling against a tired set of batsmen baked for 2 days on the field... all these make a sea of a difference in the speeds and skill display... why were the same world class seamers Anderson and broad so insipid in the first 2 tests?

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

This will end the debate here and now as the entire world of cricket including SL and Pakistan rate Gilchrist the best ever keeper batsmen and only India alone rate Dhoni as every other nation rate Dhoni as average and nothing more. Gilly also smacked hundreds in India and captained the side that thrashed India in India.

Posted by alipk52 on (July 30, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

England missed Plunkett surely, especially after seeing the way Jordan bowled, it seems all the burden is on Anderson and Broad to produce wicket taking deliveries, it was great for England that Ali took 2 very very vital wickets from nowhere, Thanks to traditional habbit of Indian batsman to throw their wicket away, England need support bowler for Anderson-Broad but sadly Jordan kept on bowling lose deliveries and took the pressure off from India which was created by Anderson & Broad, This is where Plunkett is good option, he would have easily took 3 wickets against mediocre Indian batsman.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 9:07 GMT)

If india somehow manage to avoid the follow on, I think we have a great chance of saving the match.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 9:07 GMT)

A fair day for england but surely not a good day. They took seven wickets and india passed 300. Need to polish off the tail quuckly this morning or they are giving india a sniff of the draw.

Posted by ThePacifist10 on (July 30, 2014, 9:06 GMT)

I'm just gonna sit here and watch our boys FIGHT. They've shown that they're capable of street fighting and getting dirty. Goodness knows how long they'll last today but let's see. Good luck boys! The bowling created a lot of chances and our batsmen weren't always going to click. Achilles' Heel? FIELDING. Please fix the slip catching for the love of god. Bhuvi got so many edges but no catches taken. Bell was out lbw but the umpires let us down. Lack of DRS should not necessitate the lack of good umpiring. Poor Pankaj. Shami needs to pull up his socks and fast!

Posted by Cricketfan11111 on (July 30, 2014, 9:03 GMT)

You can't fault Rahane for trying to score off a long hop. Unluckily it hit the toe end of the bat. Rohit though has a habit of going arial and throwing his wicket away. Interesting day today. Will india avoid the follow on? Will England impose the follow on if the option is available? Will they promote Buttler up the order for quick runs?

England win 60%, draw 40%.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 8:58 GMT)

This is Dhoni's best chance to prove his batting prowess. With miserable keeping and captaincy, perhaps he can save some pride at least by sticking in as long as tea time on fourth day. Dhawan should be replaced with Gambir and for God sake find someone else in place of 'No'hit Sharma. This lad just cannot bat in overseas condition. Bring in Aaron and Yadav to bolster pace department. Cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 8:54 GMT)

@niazbhi, yes i agree, how can england make such outrageous changes for such crucial test as this one, changing stokes may be okay too or may be not okay, but why was plunket changed? he bowled well and he can score too.

Jordan has played one of the most pathetic bowling display and his very ordinary bowling could be one of the reasons why india could escape with a draw (or even with a win) in this test. Also why can't cook go and ask jordan to bowl just to control the run rate, why he was trying to get wickets when he could not even maintain the line and length of county level bowler and in the process he was leaking runs like anything.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 8:42 GMT)

since there is a "debate" on who is a better keeper, i would like to make some points...australia, newzealand, south africa and england have similar kind of pitches..there will be differences depending upon the conditions and ground but the degree of change is not much when compared to the subcontinent..gilchrist played 75% of his tests in places other than the subcontinent..he kept a lot in conditions suited to him, his comfort zone..a test for any player is how they perform outside their comfort zone, for gilchrist that would be the subcontinent and for dhoni it would be outside the subcontinent..dhoni has played a lot of matches outside the subcontinent and done reasonably well both in batting and keeping..we cant say the same about gilchrist in the subcontinent..he hardly played tests in the subcontinent other than india and 2 test series with pakistan and srilanka once in five years..dhoni has to manage the expectations of a billion people...

Posted by niazbhi on (July 30, 2014, 8:31 GMT)

England miss both Stokes and Plunkett. When Stokes had 22 wickets in 6 tests he should be kept. If England can get two wickets quickly in the morning, they have to set a target more than 400 runs. They have to try to send Bell, Ballance and Butler to score fast.

Posted by iamgroot on (July 30, 2014, 8:28 GMT)

Disappointed with the way India batted in this test match. old bad habits return.Dhawan failed, kohli after getting his eye in again became out for a ball outside off. Then Rahane was our best batsmen in top order and he threw away his wicket after OUR hero Rohit sharma. This guy is TERRIBLE, every time he comes into the team, team's performance just goes down. He threw away his wicket first and then Rahane followed the same. This is exactly what I was afraid of. Now India with 7 batsmen are yet to avoid follow on. Rohit sharma is a disgrace not bcoz he has done something wrong but bcoz he failed to learn from his mistakes. Time and again he flatters to deceive indian fans. He should be kicked out of Indian team. Binny saved one test match as a batsman but then he didn't do much justice with ball. Shami too didn't bowl that great. How much we have to depend on Bhuvi? poor guy has done enough. Its time others step up. Dhoni is fighting. Ashwin IS better than Rohit in batting. Adv Eng

Posted by ankush0531 on (July 30, 2014, 8:20 GMT)

Where are re so-called experts/commentators, who were telling for first two days that pitch is absolutely flat. In fact on the third day pitch was good for batting compare to first two days. However still lot of help to seam bowlers. Only Saurav ganguly among the experts was telling that pitch is not batting paradise.

Posted by Surajrises on (July 30, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

The so called Super Talented Rohit Sharma din't fail to disappoint his millions of fans once again. Was he thinking like a Mumbai Indian's Captain when he tried to go over the top? Was Rahane trying to hit a boundary for Rajasthan Royals? What kind of shots were those during that situation! Virat is struggling outside that corridor of uncertainty but I am sure he will tackle it very soon. I really liked the way MS fought as a Captain for the team and I hope he scores a CENTURY that helps Indian team draw this test match and stay ahead with a 1-0 lead. Tough one but not impossible.. COME ON INDIA!!!

Posted by Honey0701 on (July 30, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

In England we are missing Rahul D, Sachin T, Sourav G, Laxman, Anil K, Srinath and V. Prasad.

The last test win by India against England in this series is fluke.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

@electric_loco_WAP4, LOL, I really enjoyed your plan to get doni out, I really hope it works out, but sadly it may not be easy to execute these plans because doni in the last couple of years is actually playing more comfortable than even the so called standard batsmen. He hardly gets beaten up by bowlers. He quickly gets bowlers' line and length as good as any standard batsman or even better than most of the standard batsmen so no tricks by bowlers have been working on him for the past about 2 years. One trick that may work though is to bowl on the off stump or just out side the off stump and make it if possible to deviate a little bit - and have slips, gully etc. I am not sure many other tricks will work against doni. The moment batsmen actually are in real form and first study the individual delivery before committing to a shot that is the difficult time for tricks to work, doni is enjoying this type of extraordinary form recently. But I really hope the trick you mentioned works!

Posted by ramli on (July 30, 2014, 8:15 GMT)

In any sport, slip-ups happen ... it is how fast a team recovers from that is the key ... India seems to have slipped for the moment, who knows they will recover very soon to save this match ... let us wait till the match to complete and then give judgment on performance, selection, strategy, etc. ... People, who hastily predicted an India loss mid-way at Lords had to eat the humble pie ...

Posted by mzm149 on (July 30, 2014, 8:15 GMT)

@kirands: There is a thing called home advantage which England has. This is not a road of Chennai where bowlers have nothing to do in the game. You can be optimistic about draw but Indian win is a far fetched thing.

Posted by mzm149 on (July 30, 2014, 8:05 GMT)

Broad has hinted that there will be no follow-on and there is no need of one as well. England can score 150 runs in 1.5 sessions and give target of 375 runs to chase in 4 sessions which is impossible for India to chase.

Posted by ramli on (July 30, 2014, 8:03 GMT)

Oh ... the situation for India is not that precarious as it is made out ... Cook for sure will not enforce follow on even when he can ... and if India bats sensibly (like they did in Headingley 2nd innings) in the 2nd innings ... another draw on the cards ... only thing is, I do not foresee a Chennai result here given our batsmen approach so far ... losing by India has the least probability

Posted by warneneverchuck on (July 30, 2014, 8:00 GMT)

Lol someone compared Butler with gilly...I mean Dhoni is good in odi and can be compared with gilly but in test gilly was miles ahead of dhoni I dont even know who Butler is ...

Posted by JG2704 on (July 30, 2014, 7:55 GMT)

@ vkias on (July 30, 2014, 7:29 GMT) "Comfortably lost the test series at home"?

Looked to me like they they were well on top of the 2nd and a couple hours more play and the series would have been drawn

Posted by JG2704 on (July 30, 2014, 7:49 GMT)

I'm still one who generally likes enforcing the follow on as you'd then know exactly what you have to do to get the win. Also I feel that it tells the opposition that you're in a dominant position more and that you're not letting your foot off the pedal. I can see why a team may not enforce the follow on - bowlers rested etc - but for me there are usually more reasons to enforce a follow on although I see Broad is not a fan of the old school way. We probably won't get there anyway but if we get the choice I hope Cook will bear in mind that his bowlers would have had a good night's rest. If we do bat again I hope we rejig the batting order as I mention in my post last evening

Posted by JG2704 on (July 30, 2014, 7:48 GMT)

@vik-expert on (July 30, 2014, 5:30 GMT) Why do you need to compare the 2 for starters?

Interestingly in your selected stats is that you forget to mention that Gilchrist has a higher (by about 8 or 9) overall test average , regardless of how MS has captained the side or AG has played selflessly. Buttler currently has an average of 85 so statistically he is on par with both of them put together

Posted by JG2704 on (July 30, 2014, 7:48 GMT)

@sundersingh on (July 30, 2014, 4:10 GMT) You started off with a bit of honesty about India's selections - although if Binny wasn't going to bowl Rohit was always a better bat , but maybe they could have selected another bowler. But then you go on to say about the pitch etc. Even if it was a hit the deck pitch - suitable for our bowlers - then

1 - Why did we not play Plunkett 2 - Surely every team should prepare a pitch and select a side catering for their strengths? Would India or SL deliberately prepare a pitch to help guys like Mitch and Steyn?

As it happens India bowlers have bowled better than our bowlers as we have admitted and we keep having it pointed out and we certainly had some luck with the batting decs which again folk aren't shy of pointing out but is it too much to admit that Eng have actually played better than India in this test so far?

Posted by srinath555 on (July 30, 2014, 7:45 GMT)

those wickets were gifted by INDIA......so don't laugh too much

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 30, 2014, 7:37 GMT)

I've got a v good strategy for Cook to get Dhoni out in 1st couple overs itself. Here it goes. Dhoni is on strike to Anderson in 5th/6th ball. He will naturally look for strike next over. Here Cook can play double bluff. Put in 3 slips,gully and sweeper ,with couple in ring on off side. Dhoni will think it will be very wide o/s off and try to shimmey outside off to try and reach the 'wide' ball ,thus exposing his 3 stumps. Here Jimmy should fire in a v quick outswinging yorker on middle stump. Bingo!, if he gets execution right.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 7:29 GMT)

@ Lion_Wallaby...in spite of having two experienced spinners, two on field captains, 5 players played more than 100 matches, still SL was unable to take SA batsmen 10 wickets in spinner paradise (comfortably lost both ODI and test series in home)...it only tells India is not having the weakest bowling attack....both England and India having totally 17 YOUNG players, who not even played 20 matches, in this 17 players, 12 are not even played 10 matches, 4 of them are still inside 5 matches...so this test series is a competition between almost perfectly matched sides, both are in transition stage...both these teams have at least have 10 years future unlike OTHER TEAM...plz publish

Posted by mjrvasu on (July 30, 2014, 7:25 GMT)

Why did they take Gambhir on the tour if he was not going to be in XI? Time he stepped in place of Dhawan who seem to be playing all his innings in T-20 mode. India will pay the price for not having a good set of specialist bowlers, so at least make use of the Ashwin. Though he may not be a match winner, at least he will trouble English left handers.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 30, 2014, 7:23 GMT)

@ vik-expert - Whole world knows who the undoubted 'greatest of all' Wk/bat was . Yes he was a lefty strokemaker who batted @ 7 for the Aussies not too long back. By the way,he only captained 2 or 3 games for them but he achieved something even that great team considers their crowning achievement, that 1 of the greatest captains Waugh called 'final frontier ' after failing to win only thing he couldn't at helm of his great team .

Posted by Iceman29 on (July 30, 2014, 7:21 GMT)

The Remaining 50 odd runs hangs between winning and loosing the match...it will decide fate of this match I guess..if Dhoni and Shami can hold on and score those 50 runs then we have less chances to loose this match and time will be a huge factor...If India is following on then we will have to face an innings defeat...

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 30, 2014, 7:10 GMT)

@ ksriniasu - Yes both these sides have much catching up to no.1 side. Much more so India. Crucially both these sides dont have a bloke called M Johnson. Though Eng have enough quality there in Jimmy .Broad and co. to win this from this position with 2 days to go esp. seeing how Ind batting crumbled on what was the best day to bat till now. Albeit there was some good bowling too. More of the same and Eng will be going into next game with series squared. To conclude about Mitch,he's 1 of rarities in world that even on a flat 5th day pitch and all 10 W in hand no batting lineup will rest easy knowing well his capacity to produce that insane spell out of no where in which he could run through half your line up in matter of an hour. Thats the fear factor or 'X' factor he brings in this game.

Posted by Iceman29 on (July 30, 2014, 7:04 GMT)

Same old story for Ind...we have let loose the leash on England by dropping the out of form players catches such as Cook and Bell and now they have tasted blood and they will be aggressive and we am afraid from here on we are going to loose this match and this series.....there are some serious issues with our slip fielders and our openers which needs to be sorted out or else we will keep on loosing outside subcontinent....

Posted by shishir7 on (July 30, 2014, 7:04 GMT)

First of all, the Indians allowed the England team to draw t he first test match. They were in a good position but they drew that match. India should have been 1-0 up.

The Second match, due to poor England batting and good scores from Vijay, Pujara & Rahane and 7 wickets from Ishant, India won the match. India lead the series 1-0 finally.

The second test, selectors made the mistake. Dhawan had a poor series so far. They should have gone with spinner Ravichandran Ashwin. Bowling- Shami, Bhuvaneshwar Kumar, Pankaj, Ashwin, Jadeja. Batman- Vijay, Pujara, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Jadeja, Dhoni.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 6:55 GMT)

Drop Rohit and Dhawan........they got more than enough chances

Posted by Nandu_Athadu on (July 30, 2014, 6:55 GMT)

It is all-d-way England match now. If they wont win then they are at blame. Another 20-30 runs to India Total. You cant expect Dhoni to play with the tail and that too in testing conditions and bowlers. Has to look out for Cook and how he takes this game; will he impose the follow-on or set a target..Time is an important factor here which Cook needs to consider. Had our team held on those chances it would have be a different game..Also most of the batsmen was out on rather poor shot selection than good bowling.Pujara, Kohli to some extent had good deliveries. Rest gifted their wicket. Hope they will show some application in second innings.

Posted by cricmatters on (July 30, 2014, 6:54 GMT)

Rohit has proved that he doesn't have the attention span or the patience to play the longer format. India must select him only for home games. Same with Shikhar Dhawan and Jadeja, usefull one day players but not good for Test matches especially abroad. Pick a proper attacking spinner.. not Ashwin and a good no. 6 batsman with sound technique. Pujara can open with Vijay as he has the done so far anyway due to early dismissal of Dhawan. Can't believe that the Selectors are not seeing the writing on the wall.

Posted by pandian_ikku on (July 30, 2014, 6:51 GMT)

England, get the next two wickets before 46 runs and let India bat again. All the best for England to win this match as well as the remaining two matches.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 6:48 GMT)

India are not good enough to play for a draw. Look how ridiculous some of their shots were in the first innings. They'll be chasing 400 plus as Dhoni will be out early then England will slog some quick runs, then India will collapse like a pack of cards as super Dahwan will be out in the first over as usual, Kohli will edge to slip and rest we have all seen.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 6:44 GMT)

@qa_ankit: if India follows on there is no way England losing this unless we score at a pace more than 6 runs per over throught. But if we can avoid follow on somehow then England will be unsure of possible target and number of overs to give us to. That might put them in a risk. But with Dhoni giving Shami give half the over to play (singles 3rd bowl) I cant see that happening, India will have to bat out of their skins in second session to save this match.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 6:44 GMT)

I mean great, England's bowlers are looking much better than they have the entire summer...but they still took "only" seven wickets in the day. Seven wickets against a notoriously bad away batting side, on their best day in the summer. If India had taken their chances in the first innings there's no way England would have reached such a high score - I feel the massive total they did reach against mediocre bowling/fielding is making their bowling look a lot better than what it is.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 6:43 GMT)

Broad & Anderson bowled with venom, so much so that the concentration lapse occurred when Moeen Ali came on. Chris Woakes supported ably. Jordan was the only one to offer our batsmen some respite. Starting Day 4, MSD needs to go for it and not try to occupy the crease. India following on would be the best possible outcome from Day 4, going in with 2 down at stumps. Conversely, a narrow follow on avoidance and I predict an aggressive declaration from Cook & Co. Either ways, a riveting 2 days awaits us. Good wicket, nice test cricket in England. Can't ask for more.

Posted by Haiderpakawsome on (July 30, 2014, 6:40 GMT)

There are only three possibilities left now. 1. Dhoni and remaining tail would save follow on. But they would still end up with trail of 180 + runs. Eng would give a target of 370 + to India & bundled them out in 2nd inning for @ 200. 2. India cant avoid follow on. Batting again they would loose by an inning or if Eng bat again then Eng win by 8-9 wickets. 3. Draw.

The first two are very likely. I dont see this test ending in draw though. Overall good come back by England in his test.

Posted by truemsdian on (July 30, 2014, 6:35 GMT)

Well played msd...now the ball is in the england's court..if they give india 400 to chase with three n a half sessions to go,then india still can win this...so not ruling out india's chances yet but it really depends on cook....how he goes about this...!!!

Posted by atul2884 on (July 30, 2014, 6:32 GMT)

Its sure that England wont loose the match until some very bad Batting and poor umpiring is done. looking at India's chances of saving the match its only 35%. If India can bat for 1 hour in the morning and score 50 odd runs than it will give some time for their bowlers. Next target would be to control the flow of runs and Dhoni should be wary of JOS BUTLER as one good inning of 50 run a ball would give chance to England. If India takes 2-3 quick wickets and hopefully slip fielders wont deny that then England would get defensive and flow of runs will be controlled. Its still 65-35 to England

Posted by dunger.bob on (July 30, 2014, 6:29 GMT)

@ vik-expert: And besides, Gilly retired at the same time as Warne and McGrath. 2007 I believe, after white washing England 5-0. He didn't play as many T20's as dhoni because he's a fair bit older than Dhoni and was just too old to keep playing. Dhoni isn't quite there yet. .. and finally, Gilchrist gave his wicket away looking for quick runs 9 times out of 10. He didn't play for stats. He wasn't obsessed with his personal record. He was a magnificent team man and did what was right for the team, not his own personal glory. Not that I think Dhoni is either. He's cut from similar cloth in that respect .. I don't expect a stats-guru like yourself to come within a million miles of understanding just how priceless that is. .. Leave Gilly alone mate, he was a watershed for cricket and that's all there is to it.

Posted by HarshaIn on (July 30, 2014, 6:27 GMT)

Even if the remaining wickets fall cheap, I am not sure whether Cook will allow follow-on as the bowlers would be tired and they might have another 3 sessions to bowl. In that case, English needs to bat at a good pace which is a wee bit dangerous. If JA and SB are prepared to bowl again today for I guess 3 sessions, it would be Eng atw. Judging by the way the Indians got out, it wont be easy in the second innings as they would be much more patient and careful (hopefully). My bet is a Draw 60 and Eng 40.

Posted by Qa_ankit on (July 30, 2014, 6:15 GMT)

To be very frank. Given the situation, if India saves follow-on, they will save match straight forwardly. Reason is if India bats today for 25 overs and saves follow on, then any how England have to play and will be looking give atleast 350 runs to chase. That means, India will have to stay only for last day. Which they have done in this series. But if they concede follow on, then there will be 100% result. It can be India losing or might be Eng too. Because England can be rumbled out in 50 overs given the spin is there. And if England has to bat again to make 200 in last 50 overs with spinning pitch. They might be in danger.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 30, 2014, 6:13 GMT)

@ Lion_Wallaby...today is 4th day...even India can bat till lunch (im sure they will do it because one specialist batsman and that too captain is in middle), England has to pile runs quickly in one and half session...they will give at least target of 350 runs...India has the record of chasing 2nd highest runs in test history...if they wont lose early wickets, im sure they will try to chase it because it will make our lead as unassailable...India is not depending upon one or two batsmen like OTHER TEAM, its a team lot of YOUNG players (nobody in team played more than 85 test matches, half of the team is not even 20 matches), they will contribute in win....if it not possible, then at least test will become draw, WE WONT LOSE THIS TEST

Posted by dunger.bob on (July 30, 2014, 6:12 GMT)

@ vik-expert: I thought India had the best batsmen of all time, all the time. Shouldn't that mean that Dhoni is actually the one not under pressure ? Man oh man. An average keeper you say. Kept his whole career to the likes of Warne, McGrath, Gillespie and Lee. .. Dhoni has never had to keep to bowlers of that class. Ok, to be fair, perhaps Kumble and maybe Harbi Singh briefly, but not his whole career against some of the best bowlers the game has ever seen. .. Now THAT'S pressure for a wicket-keeper batsman. .. think about it for a minute mate before you embarrass yourself even further.

Posted by FellowshipAtJulampitiyeJunction on (July 30, 2014, 6:11 GMT)

On final day India will be chasing something around 400. Reasonable declaration convert it to 50/50 depending on how world champions take on the challenge. English win will keep the series intereting...........

Posted by Lion_Wallaby on (July 30, 2014, 6:02 GMT)

@rk_ks; after how many years did you win??? how many white washes through out?? Eng to Aus to SA to NZ!! Doesn't matter though Indian batsmen keep batting even though they are out in the real world with DRS!!! That win was once in blue moon England will win rest of it!!

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 6:00 GMT)

Disappointed with Dhoni, Jadeja,Dhawan and Rohit Sharma. Rahane has beaten Kohli and Sharma and in future may continue tradition of Mumbai batsman being successful at all places.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 5:57 GMT)

England scenario not that good with Anderson missing out on the rest of the series after jadeja conflict hearing ..India regaining their strengths could come good in next 2 matches. .This match looked like experimentation from Dhoni with 7 batsmen..draw will be the fitting result in this match..India battle out session wise..If they can survive 4 sessions in lord's by applying more they can do the same I this match against eng restless bowlers..hoping for draw..now fortunes whirling towards Indian tide..p

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 5:55 GMT)

While england can be said to have bowled reasonably well but in the overall context of this series where they are already down by 1 test this performance by england is nothing great. By this time they should have got india all out. India still has 2 wickets and doni is still not out and even the tail enders too give lot of resistance nowadays so we still do not know how much of this first innings lead will be eaten by doni and the tail enders. One think i can say is the overall advantage of england has been brought down by doni's batting, if england could enjoy a lead of around 280+ then it would have been a different story but now lead has already come down to 240 something with still 2 wickets + doni still batting. England has to do much better than this if they have to pressurize indians in this test. But england seem to have lost a great chance in this test. I know they tried their reasonable best but it is not enough against this indian side. Try harder England, Good lucks!

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 5:51 GMT)

India did mistake by going in with 7 batsmen theory in this match..that never succeeded them in overseas..that's y they r in this situation. ..hope they rectify that in all coming matches ..4 fast bowlers are must ..better replace pankaj Singh and rohit by ishwar pandey and varun. .If Manchester and oval pitches support spin linen make way for ashwin. .

Posted by Humdingers on (July 30, 2014, 5:45 GMT)

Psychologically India could really hammer Eng if they can get a draw out of this. Eng would have done themselves no favors for the remainder of the series. Anderson in all likelihood will miss either 1 or both of the remaining tests. Playing Broad would be a risk to his own fitness. Without Broad and Anderson who is going to provide the breakthroughs? Yes Ali got wickets, but they were more down to the batsmen underestimating him (no offense to his bowling). Will be interesting to see what Cook does - Declare early and set a competitive target or bat India out of the game and tire the bowlers out (even more) for the next test. This series is like chess…plan for 2-3 moves ahead!

Posted by cesar12345 on (July 30, 2014, 5:33 GMT)

@SHANKAR JAIRAMAN buddy its very unfair comment he was batting exceptionally before he got out for that poor executon and you say he has given lot of chances????????????

is 6 test matches lot of chancess??????

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 5:30 GMT)

three days and all the 9 sessions to England, England has played well but India has done really very bad . The pitch is a belter. If India continues this way then saving this match would become impossible.

Posted by vik-expert on (July 30, 2014, 5:30 GMT)

People complaining about Dhoni here's the comparison with Gilchrist his record against India 18 matches with 27.89 Average, Vs England in England 10 matches with 40.07 Average, in UAE 2 matches with 25.50 Ave, Vs SL 7 matches with 42.55 Ave. And big thing he only captained 1 or twice. Now MS Dhoni vs Australia 17 matches with 37 Ave, Vs England in England 10 Matches with 40 Average, Against New Zealand 9 Matches 54 average. I did comparison based on A Gilchrist is a western player only played on Fast tracks and MS played only on slow tracks. MS is doing captaincy from last 40 odd test matches. I still think he is better than A Gilchrist. A Gilchrist played with no pressure because of players like Steve, Warne, Langer, Hayden, D Martin. He had platform setup from these players before coming to bat. Of course no captaincy pressure. As soon as these players left Australian team he was just useless wicket keeper with poor batting record & bare in mind he only played 13 T20's & Dhoni 49

Posted by ksriniasu on (July 30, 2014, 5:27 GMT)

If India survives the first session tomorrow and bring the lead down to roundabouts of 180, it will leave England in a tricky situation. Do they accelerate and risk losing wickets or play slow and not give themselves enough time? If it were Australia, I would be sure that they would declare with a lead of 350 and 4 sessions to bowl out the opposition. But England is no Australia. Unfortunately, India is no Australia either. I would love for England to declare with 350 ahead and India to go for the target. But more likely, England will declare with 450 ahead with 2 sessions left, and India will play for a draw

Posted by jmcilhinney on (July 30, 2014, 5:27 GMT)

@sundersingh on (July 30, 2014, 4:10 GMT), firstly, the difference in that Ashes series was Mitchell Johnson, plain and simple. Secondly, we've seen a number of India fans claiming that the pitch was prepared flat so that Cook could score some runs and England wouldn't lose and now we have you claiming that it was prepared to suit England's bowlers. It's all rubbish. Since when is Anderson a "hit the deck" bowler? The pitch is fine. England have had a bit more luck than India but have also outplayed them. That's all there is to it. When England batsmen were dropped or got a call in their favour they went on with it and the India batsmen haven't been able to, e.g. Rahane given not out when he gloved it to the keeper.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 5:16 GMT)

It has become Customary of the Indian cricket team to make hill out of a mole. When Anderson and Broad seem to running out of ideas, Moeen Ali gets wickets. No one from the India bowling line up did that. It is purely in the hands of the Indian batsmen to save this test. The bowlers are proving to be…..

Posted by dunger.bob on (July 30, 2014, 5:12 GMT)

@ Rajesh_india_1990: re Dhoni. I used to think like what you said your fellow Indians do. Then he belted that double hundred against us (Oz) in the last series we played. .. I've heard some of my compatriots say 'yeah, but it was against one of our weakest ever sides that was just about to dump it's coach' and so forth and so on. I don't buy into it. It was 200 runs and it changed the course of that game and ultimately the series. .. In short, he did our heads in and we didn't recover. As far as I'm concerned he's one hell of a tough cookie and I wouldn't put anything beyond him.

Posted by aby_97 on (July 30, 2014, 5:12 GMT)

England should go with all guns blazing.Because fro me, this is the deciding day as Day 4 will tell you where the match is heading.They are in a very good position so Cook should shed his defensive tactics and get the remaining two wickets within an hour and give mammoth total to India and atleast give India three and a half sessions.This would be enough to bowl them out.It will not be easy as some people may think.Because, Shikhar, Kohli and Pujara are hungry batsman.Shikhar wcould play well in the fear of lsoing his place.There were lot of noise around Murali Vijay's inclusion before the series.But now, he is a class apart.PRESSURE can do funny things.So, Pressure on Cook's captaincy, pressure on Shikhar's batting, Pressure on Kohli to score runs. Interesting Day Ahead, Let's see who has the last laugh.

Posted by santoshmurudkar on (July 30, 2014, 5:05 GMT)

we are talking about b kumar shami p singh support to msd try to save the match but ROHIT SHARMA DHAWAN & VIRAT have to learn batting from B KUMAR DHAWAN is still luccky after 5 inn failure & if we saw him in 4th match then we know there is something bad sign for GAUTAM GAMBHIR

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 5:02 GMT)

Rohit Rohit Rohit Rohit Rohit Rohit Rohit . I don't know still how many chances selectors provide to him. I think Ashwin would have been better choice against him. Please don't pressure Kholi and dhawan let the play their natural game, they deserve more chances.

Posted by CurrentPresident on (July 30, 2014, 4:58 GMT)

I had mentioned this exact scenario yesterday, and true to form, the Indians lived up to it. Again, it will end up like in NZ and despite a good second innings fight, they will not be able to save this match.

The only thing that can save them is if one of the main English bowlers gets injured. There isn't any other player (other than Vijay), who can play the long slow innings needed to save this match.

Posted by dunger.bob on (July 30, 2014, 4:52 GMT)

@ landl47: Moeen Ali has the Ian Botham touch. Bowl a rank long hop, get a wicket. .. Priceless.

Posted by JustIPL on (July 30, 2014, 4:51 GMT)

Bounce is getting uneven, Ali can be the key to use the rough and exercise doosra as much as possible. England can only win if support allrounders contribute significantly which does not seem to be possible on this pitch where only anderson/broad have impressed. If they give a lot of time to indian bats then england might also lose as india can chase facing limited bowling resources that england have.

Posted by sundersingh on (July 30, 2014, 4:51 GMT)

Already its 1-1 in series , i hope India make the change for the next match...

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 4:48 GMT)

I don't think Rohit will get big scores in any test matches.........selection of shots `he only deserved to play T20 or ODI.

Posted by sreehk on (July 30, 2014, 4:41 GMT)

INDIA pays the PRICE for Dhoni's selections and mindset. What India missed from a good 5th bowler they did not get it from the extra batsman Mr. Rohit Sharma. The impact of Rohit's selection is so huge that all Indian bowlers are tired to death now staring at a long series. Several other batsmen feel gutted why are they not given just as many chances or why Rohit is so partially treated. India deserve this for their selection. India should lose the test. Look at what Moin Ali is doing. Drop Rohit for good. Bring Ashwin in. Period.

Posted by denmore on (July 30, 2014, 4:38 GMT)

I think Dhawan needs a stern talking to...maybe even remind him of Gambhir etc in waiting in the ranks...

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 4:27 GMT)

While it is true the twin opening bowlers for England kept to their task valiantly by mixing balls outside the off stump with a sudden incoming ball well pitched up to catch the batsmen unawares on being nether forward or back. But the unsung hero was Moeen Alii who got two well set batsmen to gift their wickets of ordinary balls. The Bombay style of cricket is known for Gavaskar and Sachin who seldom gifted their wickets away and showed a lot of mental strength to play against a mammoth total. Instead we had two young cricketers infected with ODI -T20ites playing rank bad shots. If this Test results in a win for England it is more India losing than their winning. Dropped catches, very poor bowling discipline and poor temperament in batting are not valid excuses

Posted by sundersingh on (July 30, 2014, 4:10 GMT)

The difference between INDIA and OZ. when Oz has the upper hand in the series, they gone by the scruff of England and went for the kill..but India have chosen the other way by going the defensive way... what is the outcome-( COOK and BELL) came to form mid series and England having the momentum on their hands... I am damn sure If ashwin was there i dont see BALLANCE scoring runs.. once again MSD faulted the same mistake of taking 7-4 combination. on dhawan, there is no diff between gambhir and him...England got the great ploy of creating the preparing the HIT THE DECK PITCH which is not suitable for our bowling attack. well done ECB! please publish....

Posted by kunakrish on (July 30, 2014, 4:07 GMT)

@Pady Srini i don't know you have watched the match ,well rohit supporter cant speak anything because he is playing so well that no one can tell any thing ,now every one questioned he is playing too slow ,once he got out after trying to score ,which exposed the middle order,England bowlers did the job.

Posted by whirlaway on (July 30, 2014, 4:06 GMT)

Day 4 lunch targets:

India: Reach 400, losing 0-2 additional wickets

England: Get India out within the next 20 runs (first innings lead of 220+ runs), and score 70-80 runs for the loss of 2 or fewer wickets

Posted by Realistic_cri_fan on (July 30, 2014, 4:03 GMT)

This game is heading towards a draw.I am pretty sure that Cook won't make India bat again even if India follow-on because he is a defensive captain.So India have to play 4 sessions in the 2nd innings.I am confident that our batsmen will not make the mistakes again.Final verdict:Draw-70%,England win-30%

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 3:56 GMT)

@kirands, Remember 1. Southampton is not Chennai. 2. There is no Tendulkar and Sehwag in this team, or for that matter Gauti and Yuvraj are also missing. 3. You are alos missing a batsmen of calibre of Dravid/Laxman who can bat for long hours without losing concentration. All three are a possibility in this match. Lets hope for good game of cricket who wins should not matter

Posted by vik-expert on (July 30, 2014, 3:55 GMT)

India have new slip cordon and they dropped important catches = 569 runs. Cook made 95 he was dropped on 15 & butler made 83, he was dropped in on 9. England score could have been around 425. May be England could have managed 550 but bit slow pace. Now India will have to bat at least 5 seasons to save this match. If Dhoni will be able to bat with shami and P Singh for another session the it will be difficult for England to win this test match. One more session slow batting means loosing 70 - 80 runs plus Anderson & Broad will bowl at least 10 overs each which will make them really tired. They have already bowled 24 overs each. England at least will need 400 runs which means they need to bat for another 50 overs. England will only have 1 day to bowl out Indian batsman with tired Anderson, broad & wayward Jordan. 2 wickets were Eid gift to Ali from Rohit & Rahane. I don't think they'll make same mistake with loopy Ali's bowling.

Posted by rk_ks on (July 30, 2014, 3:35 GMT)

Binny didn't play well in 2 test matches agreed. When Binny was taken out based on poor performance, why not Dhawan. He dropped a critical catch as well. No notable performance except one against Aus and one against NZ. Atleast Binny would have scored 30 runs more than Dhawan. And for some reason what this coach is doing. From the last 10-15 test matches at least 20 catches were lost because slip is too far away. We as a spectator notices these, but what is that the coach and captain are doing. Everyone knows, Rohit throws away his wicket so easily after settling down. It is happening from last 2 years. He scores slowly to settle down, plays a bad shot and then get out. What is the coach doing about this.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 3:33 GMT)

@entryholedia, get your stats right. I dont know what is your age. Brijesh and Mankad both played their last international matches in late 70s. The cricket was not a craze those days, and mainly players from the big cities used to get selected as selectors those days did not visit smaller cricketing centres looking for talent.

General Comments I also saw some comments about wicketkeeper batsmen in earlier decades, i can cite at least 2 wicketkeeper batsmen who were either equal to or better than MS Dhoni, namely Farokh Engineer and Syed Kirmani. Both for excellent keepers keeping to quality spinners like Bedi, Chandra, Pras and Venkat. I doubt if Dhoni could keep wickets to the above spin quartet. They did not want dust bowl wickets to get wickets, like the present day spinners.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 3:30 GMT)

Drop Vijay and make Rohit open. Amazing innings from Rohit. Vijay played really poorly.

Posted by rk_ks on (July 30, 2014, 3:29 GMT)

@ Lion_Wallaby: Ya. Eng lost in the last test against this mediocre bowling. And against your super bowling, one of the Indian bowler scored 3 50's.

Posted by Iyer on (July 30, 2014, 3:28 GMT)

Dhoni is not fit to play test matches in seaming / swinging tracks against quality fast bowling. Period! His team selection is always debatable. His fielding tactics and bowling changes are mostly illogical... It is good to think 'outside the box' once in a while but if you consistently outside the box then you don't belong to stay within the box. This test can be saved or extended to fifth day second session - only if India manage to bat till lunch on day 4. Otherwise it is 1-1 beyond reasonable doubt. It is criminally insane to drop Ashwin and Gambhir. Dhawan like Dhoni is a player of French cricket in English conditions.

Posted by cktspirit on (July 30, 2014, 3:05 GMT)

India is paying the price for poor catching, mistaken strategy (proven formula of 7 batsmen) and reckless batting. The difference between previous test and this one is a kind of reversal in application of the batsmen. Rahane, Vijay, Bhuvi did apply themselves well, this time England did it well. The problem with Dhoni's favorite batsmen is undue aggression and lack of application. Examples are Dhawan, Rohit and Jadeja. It is clear India is continuing with weakened bowling pack (as usual for times immemorial), it is time to wakeup and understand 7th batsman can not bring in what six of them fail to do.

I can only hope for Dhoni doing a Kapil, like in the match where Gooch scored a tripe !!!

Posted by entryholedia on (July 30, 2014, 2:59 GMT)

Sikhar Dhawan is being persisted in the same way as was Ashok Mankad in the seventies and later Brijesh Patel in the eighties . Both the erstwhile batsmen failed & failed umpteen times yet they played for India . When Gambhir is in the touring team why not select him . At best he will also fail but at least we will have tried someone . Yesterday the Indian contingent of commentators towards the end had somehow lost their voices . Both Sanjay Manjrekar & Sourav were hoarse and we had to tone up the TV volume to hear what they said . Perhaps the dismal batting & some horrendous dismissals e.g Rahane & Rohit to One Moeen had left the commentators shell shocked!!

Posted by JustIPL on (July 30, 2014, 2:57 GMT)

Great rearguard action by Dhoni, the only remnant of the fab4 era. He has done it so many times for India. Without him India would have followed on by now. Moeen is one of the main wicket takers in this series and has taken over 100 first class wickets for a reason in english conditions and should not have been taken lightly. Poor captaincy by cook for saving indian batsmen from Broad for first half an hour today.

Posted by Humdingers on (July 30, 2014, 2:54 GMT)

@Rajesh_india_1990 - have you ever watched a bloke who was a no.7 and wicketkeeper called Adam Gilchrist play? That's how you turn games. Dhoni is not here nor there. He is lost in Tests (one of the best in ODI's and T-20's mind you). But defn not fit for test cricket.

Posted by Lion_Wallaby on (July 30, 2014, 2:51 GMT)

@vkias: Really?? Are you expecting 70% chance for a draw and 30% chance for India to win?? what a joke England is already 250 ahead. I would say 100% England win!!! Even Anderson would score another 60-70 runs to extend the England lead against your mediocre bowling line up!!!

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (July 30, 2014, 2:49 GMT)

Over the last 5-6 years only 2 teams in test cricket have the pedigree to grind out a draw with their back to the wall with superb rear guard resistance...SA and Eng. The rest just fall like ten pins when up to such situation. Get those 2 wickets quickly and give Anderson and Co. 5 sessions to bowl India out. Pretty simple aint it?

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 2:38 GMT)

@Ajanthan Shantiratnam on (July 30, 2014, 0:47 GMT):

Unless there is an extreme emergency, Gauti will remain benched, as long the present incumbent stays in the captain's seat.

Moral: Don't invite the captain's wrath. And, if you are in the team, don't challenge the captain's skills & tactics, whether you are England's KP or India's Gauti. Most captains have elephantine memories.

Posted by Siva_Bala75 on (July 30, 2014, 2:33 GMT)

India has 12 wickets- 2 this innings and 10 in the second. To save this match, India should score 450 runs @ 3 per over and consume 150 overs. This will require at least two big partnerships. Given the low quality of India's bowling, England may enforce a follow on, if available. The best hope for a draw is resting on Dhoni-Shami batting for long and score some runs.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

@Posted by wolf777 on (July 30, 2014, 1:16 GMT): You said:

"...They said that adding the sixth batsman will add balance to Indian side...well, now the Test Match is hanging in balance...". Well said.

But, England is the one who brought in Ballance to their side, and filled in the void, left by Trott. He filled in the traditional big shoes left behind by the likes of Vaughn & Trott, pretty well. Bare-chested-pub-celebrations aside.... That one, I guess, was good for the Youtube....

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (July 30, 2014, 2:17 GMT)

As usual nobody is going to talk about Dhoni's 50..But if he fails in one innings whole world will critisise that he dont have a proper tecnique,bla bla bla....he dont have any overseas centuries but Look at his batting position.. how can he score a century coming in at 7 and have to fight it out with tailenders..why dont my fellow Indians dont understand this?

Posted by lobsterchampion on (July 30, 2014, 2:10 GMT)

I think India have themselves to blame for the situation they are in. Bowlers did not bowl that badly, had the catches been taken and some of the decisions gone India's way, things would have been different. Most of the batsmen got starts, but they failed to convert them into big scores. I am particularly disappointed with the way Rohit and Rahane got out. They gifted their wickets to Mooen Ali. Virat needs to quickly sort of out is weakness for deliveries out side the off stump. Having said that, I dont think all is lost for India. Among the England's bowlers only Anderson and Broad seemed like getting wickets. I think all Indian batsmen need to do in their second innings is to play out both these bowlers patiently. The pitch is playing well, if batsmen apply themselves, there is still a chance for India to draw this test match.

Posted by DeepThinking on (July 30, 2014, 2:05 GMT)

Cook...irrespective of India scores 40 odd runs or not to avoid follow on, be a man, come out, bat and declare when England's lead is 325 / your bowlers have 5 or more session, force for a result... Don't play safe game and expect a result...

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 1:58 GMT)

England ahead by a mile. Sorry for stating the obvious. Even if England don't enforce the follow on then England still will have enough a big enough lead that they won't need to bat long before making a second declaration. Unless we get miracle last wicket partnerships we have seen throughout the series, I think England will at minimum have a 175+ lead. India will need to bat really well in second innings.

Posted by cricfan_aus on (July 30, 2014, 1:50 GMT)

Score or not but Ind should try bat out at least 15 to 20 overs on the 4th day. Ind fans should not be disappointed at all with the batting effort. of course it could have been better and no one score or played a substantial inning in this match compared to last few away series where the whole team struggled to put 200 on the board, this is lot better. Every one chipped in the score, at a healthy rate too. (3.16). So i can not see MR Cook asking a Ind to chase 400 with 5 sessions. The issue is if Ind not able to avoid the follow-on and do not play out 15 overs in the first session.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 1:19 GMT)

@pratit on (July 29, 2014, 19:28 GMT)

I hate ifs & buts. If one wants to live in that fantasy world, think of Cook out for 15, Bell out for Zero, Buttler out for Zero... and a few run out chances...and more... Yes we can quote many. If they had been in India's favour, this pitch would have certainly produced an even contests and result oriented test.Hope, nobody gets at the throat of the curator & his ground staff.

Posted by wolf777 on (July 30, 2014, 1:16 GMT)

They said that adding the sixth batsman will add balance to Indian side...well, now the Test Match is hanging in balance...

Posted by DCricket on (July 30, 2014, 1:16 GMT)

India has some basic problems which are not being addressed since Dhoni became Test captain (I am not sure if they were being addressed before that). Spin has been india's strength which is not the case anymore. What Dhoni brings to the team (outside subcontinent) is very defensive captaincy, prejudiced selection, week wicket keeping and week batting. Sometimes he makes selection just to make a point. Binny was a recent example. He selected him for two test as an all rounder. In better seaming(than india) condition he was given 20 overs. to me it appears he made a selection to make a point that (Binny is no good). Why is Jadeja being selected? Ashwin can bat as well as Jadeja in these conditions and bowl way better than him. Still he is being selected before Ashwin. India didn't win the second test, England lost it. Even on the last day after first session, England could have easily win it. Until Dhoni is captain, India will not win an away test series.

Posted by kirands on (July 30, 2014, 1:12 GMT)

Thinking positively from India's point of view. India may be trailing England by 246 runs in the first innings with only the last two wickets in hand but England can take nothing for granted. Alastair Cook has a challenge on his hands. He will have to time his declaration tomorrow carefully so as not to lose the Test match. He will certainly not have forgotten what happened to England in that memorable Test match in Chennai in 2008, in which he played. England dismissed India cheaply and took a handy first innings lead of 75. England managed to reach 311 for 9, and Kevin Pietersen declared their second innings, setting India to chase 387 to win or bat out four sessions. And what happened ? Virender Sehwag went berseck, slamming 83 off 68 deliveries, Gambhir chipped in with 66, Tendulkar and Yuvraj combined in a 163-run breezy partnership for the fifth wicket, and India ended up humbling England by six wickets with plenty of overs to spare. Lightning can strike twice !!!!!

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 1:08 GMT)

@Posted by Neil Shah on (July 29, 2014, 20:08 GMT):

Even if India can not avoid follow on, they can still draw this test, if they don't lose PATIENCE & CONCENTRATION, second round around.

The risk is when India's first innings folds up soon, and England rattles up quick runs till tea (worse, even before tea), with a lead of 350+ and insert India back.

Posted by Suhail Jaan on (July 30, 2014, 1:01 GMT)

I want to know your opinions , would England enforce the follow on or not? i personaly think they will play until tea

Posted by MeijiMura on (July 30, 2014, 0:57 GMT)

A long line of poor dismissals from the Indian batsmen. Murali was caught in two minds, Pujara should have dropped his hands, Kohli needlessly played at a wide one, Rahane was out trying to hit a long hop for six, something even a club cricketer could have achieved yet he was embarrassingly dismissed from his hash of a shot against a very very ordinary bowler, while Rohit's dismissal was similarly pathetic against the same very very poor bowler. If India lose this match then they will look no further than their careless and brainless batting from their first innings.

Posted by dunger.bob on (July 30, 2014, 0:51 GMT)

Under most normal circumstances 320/8 is quite an acceptable 1st Innings total. It's just that it looks a bit pallid when put up against England's total this time around. They (India) also scored the runs at a decent clip so I think it's quite a good response actually.

With only 2 days left in the match, there's still a lot of work ahead for England. They need to keep their foot flat on the floor to bring this home for a win. They can't afford to let up for a second or time could beat them. India on the other hand could probably start slowing the game down South African style. If I were them I wouldn't worry about the follow on, they just need to bat as long as they can today and take as much time as possible away from England.

Anyway, it's building to a crescendo and has been a cracking game of cricket so far. Can't wait to see what happens !

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 0:47 GMT)

It happens only in IND that a player of the caliber and experience of Gambir doesn't get a place in the team.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 0:44 GMT)

If follow on is saved then there is a chance that this match could be saved bcoz without follow on it would be difficult for England to set a target and then bowl out India in one day as England will look to Atleast try to set 400 runs or more as a target. The only difference between England and India in this match is shot selection and slip catching. India dropped catches and England held on to the offers given gby Indian batsman. If follow on happens then someone has to repeat the performance of Laxman and Dravid in Eden Gardens against Australia. I hope India can come out of the this mess.

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 0:24 GMT)

India should first avoid follow on and then keep check on england run rate. make england work hard for their second innings runs. make england bat entire day tommorow,so that india can save the test on the last day

Posted by   on (July 30, 2014, 0:11 GMT)

What baffled me is why India was in hurry to play shorts one day like n throw wicket. A 228/4 is far better than 328/8. India cud never win after giving 550+ to England.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 23:38 GMT)

Just to put it in perspective, India 323/8 is still HEAPS BETTER than anything India did in 2011. It only looks bad in comparison to England's massive first innings total. India's young batsmen should still take heart that they performed OK while facing two top class bowlers. Obviously, wasn't good enough but wasn't as bad as the "Greats" performed 3 years ago. As a cricket lover, its good to see that the series is still alive and England do have some fight.

Posted by markofcaloundra on (July 29, 2014, 22:40 GMT)

Poor umpring decisions have cost India parity in this match, Bell and Butler's howlers add up to 240. India must surely rue their folly over DRS. Whether they can bat out and survive this test is unlikey, but possible after all, howlers aside, India are right on par with England, despite their modest county standard bowling attack, and their batting unable to match their potential class. Three tests into this series and they are playing pretty well. The real test is whether they can maintain this level over two more tests.Ishant has definitely been missed, while Pankaj Singh has had an ok debut, looked a better bowler than Jordan or Woakes, i do think India would have been stronger if they had brought one of their legspinners to test England more thoroughly against this traditional English weakness. Very even, competitive series so far, hope it continues, but my fear is India will fall away over the next two and a bit tests. Hope not. Could be a riveting series to the wire.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 29, 2014, 22:21 GMT)

Dont think Eng will/need to enforce f.o.Pitch still's pretty good apart from the rough,which will make Moen big threat in Ind 2nd inng.With all Eng bats in fine fettle,a 50 over bat @ 4 p over to decl. 1 hr before tea should give Ind target of around 450.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 29, 2014, 22:07 GMT)

Engs day again.A step closer to big victory for 1-1.Be much deserved having 1 all 9 sessions in game so far.Well,Eng W is all but imminent sometime in d5-95pc-with only slight chance otherwise-5 pc.Rested,fresh Eng should knock over no.10,11 in 3-4 overs.

Posted by JG2704 on (July 29, 2014, 21:54 GMT)

England really need to polish off the tail quickly (for once) and be in a position to enforce the follow on. If that happens pleeeeease no modern way nonsense. Make India bat again and if we manage to bowl them out again then at least we know exactly what we have to do to chase the target, Batting again and it's a guessing game about when to declare when you're so far into a game. If India avoid the follow on I'd like to see them go for broke and maybe think a little out of the box. Move Bell up to open given that he is showing some confidence/fluency and give Root more license and maybe go totally outside the box and move Buttler and Broad up the order. I'd like to see Robson and Ballance shifted down the order for this inns only

Posted by yorkshirematt on (July 29, 2014, 21:53 GMT)

England did well again today, but if they can't or choose not to enforce the follow on then it should be a draw. Now I know these things aren't set in stone but that could well win the series for India, as the BBC weather seem to be suggesting a wet August

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 21:31 GMT)

Certainly England's day, with a generally patient bowling attack gaining the reward throughout the course of play. An interesting problem for England should they bowl out the last two wickets quickly. I think for a change the follow on would be enforced. We'll see.

Posted by JustIPL on (July 29, 2014, 21:12 GMT)

Yet another match saving knock by Dhoni who is only survivor from the fab4 era. Moeen proved his worth in unsettling batmen and exposing them like he did in the fourth innings of first test where binny saved the game. In the absence of cook, bell, anderson, broad and dhoni this test series is like a battle of minnows.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 21:11 GMT)

Atleast Dhoni will fight hard in this test match as he is the one made bigger mistakes on team selection and fury of cathes (wrong slip fielders placed) in the slips and ofcourse stumping. If Ind lose this match, then dhoni will be heavily abused by the fans and media. Will shami and pankaj be helpful for India or else they need to grind heavily for 2 days. Its really difficult to stay there for 2 days that too in 2nd innings. Eng 90 - 10 India on this match now. Expecting unbelevabile things from Ind to draw this match. Hope Gambir will replace Dhawan and Ishant & Ashwin will come back on next match.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 20:53 GMT)

This is the time for Dhoni have to prove himself and also he needs to partially justify about his team selection in this test. I know he is been conscious about the criticism happening now that's why he is making some runs here. If India lose this match, then Dhoni and Flecther will be on a tremendous pressure from the Indian cricket board.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 20:51 GMT)

The only hope India has to save the test is to avoid the follow-on. Everyone here assuming that Cook will not enforce the follow-on so as to "rest his bowlers" is delusioned or engaging in wishful thinking.

Forcing India to survive long enough with a lead of 200+, England will relish the thought. If they have to bat a second time, they have to score fast which means they'll not be giving their bowlers all that much rest anyway. Moreover, they'll force them with fewer hours to bowl India out or risk giving them an achievable target.

Dhoni and Shami need to avoid the follow-on, or it is all over by tea on the fifth day.

Posted by Raki99 on (July 29, 2014, 20:41 GMT)

Kohli and Pujara Needs to come good in the second innings and I don't think Dhawan has technique to survive the Opening bowling outside the subcontinent, He played couple of good innings in NZ but apart from there he is becoming Anderson's bunny in Eng. Fielding is still work in progress especially the slip catching.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 20:21 GMT)

I think India should consider playing 5 frontline bowlers rather than playing 6 batsmen. Playing 5 bowlers will help other bowlers both mentally and physically. They should also bring in a proper bowler who can attack. Bringing is Ashwin won't solve the problem, because he will just try out a lot of things and he will just go for runs. Jadeja is doing very well by not going for too many runs. They should consider bringing in Varun Aaron. He can bowl 3 over spells and attack. Varun has good pace and will trouble the opposition. When he gets some experience India can use him like Mitchell Johnson.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 20:08 GMT)

India should be able to draw this if they can avoid follow on. Its uptoo dhoni, to make sure he scores at a decent pace, if follow on is avoided, then it will give india more time to bat out the 10.wickets prolly will need to bat full 4 sessions.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 20:05 GMT)

Real test for the Indian batsmen...it would be excellent if they can have the patience to bat it out and draw the game.

Posted by ToTellUTheTruth on (July 29, 2014, 20:01 GMT)

Looks like this will be the last series for Broad and Anderson, the way they are bowling so many spells. Cook is going to bowl them into ground and the so called "Bowling Unit" of England consists of only two bowlers. They are being overbowled and I fear for them...honestly.

Posted by Eclipse0990 on (July 29, 2014, 19:51 GMT)

Well whatever the scenario was before the match, right now India just needs to do three things right when broken at root level. First. Play out maximum balls possible tomorrow in the morning. It's better if batting is slightly easier for India and Dhoni attacks taking total to 400 or so. That'll leave England to play at least two sessions. Second task. When England bats, bowl wicket to wicket and reduce the rum flow. The pressure of winning the match is more on England. If a collapse happens, it'll be because batsmen make mistakes. Too much to ask for but if anyhow India gets 10 wickets in 2 sessions, match can still be won. Third task. Don't throw wickets away while batting. I can ensure that India won't lose after that.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 19:30 GMT)

Englands seems to be in good control of the mistakes they made in previous games..

Posted by pratit on (July 29, 2014, 19:28 GMT)

After the way India dropped their catches, this was always on the cards. Had India taken their chances, England would not have crossed 400. Bowlers get demoralized when dollies are dropped. After all that the batsmen needed to apply themselves better and not throw their wickets away.All they needed to do was to take time out of the game and tire the bowlers. When wkts don't fall for a period bowlers automatically lose intensity. And surely we have seen enough of Rohit Sharma to know he will not make it in this level. His weakness outside offstump is glaring. And he has never played any quality innings outside the subcontinent. He also looks too impatient. Ashwin would have added a lot more value to the team. But Dhoni probably wants to draw more than he wants to win. But the thing is, when you play to draw you invariably lose.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 19:19 GMT)

Indian bowlers need to find the right line and length to the ENG batsmen. The game is going to be a definite draw but India have to prove the win in lords has not got to the head. Still think india will win the series.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (July 29, 2014, 19:17 GMT)

We need to occupy the crease and eat some time tomorrow hopefully the entire morning session which leaves 5 sessions for both the teams. Follow or not we need to play 4 out of the remaining 6 sessions to not loose this game.

Posted by MarvinX on (July 29, 2014, 19:17 GMT)

I don't think England will enforce the follow-on even if they have a 225+ lead. Their bowlers are hurting and Cook would want to give them a little more rest. So best case scenario for England would be to get India out quickly and get set a target of 400 with 4 and a half sessions to get India out. I see India fighting hard on day 5, with Shikar and Pujara under pressure.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 19:13 GMT)

Pretty even day. Perhaps England slightly ahead but I can't see much other than a draw.

Anderson and Broad bowled well. Calls for the senior players to stand up appear to have been answered by all 4 of them.

Woakes bowled pretty well I thought. He's gained a bit more pace since his debut, but he was wicketless so the questions over his penetration will remain. Jordan was poor, and it shouldn't be forgotten that he was wicketless in his previous test.

Ali bowled respectably but lacked the threat that Swann had. His wickets were gifted to him, though he did deserve at least one.

India's batsmen looked comfortable. They got starts but nobody kicked on. England have found it difficult enough to bowl out England today. To finish them off then bowl them out again will be harder a second time when the bowlers are more tired and the batsmen are unlikely to throw their wickets away so easily.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 29, 2014, 19:07 GMT)

India has to fight hard to avoid follow on, especially Dhoni...at least till lunch, if the deficit is inside 150 runs, then should restrict England by taking as many wickets possible...im expecting England will give 350 target in 100-110 overs...if it so then try to chase it, it is not a difficult target (3.5 runs per over, today India scored 298 runs with the loss of 7 wickets= 3.3 run rate), if lose early wickets, then try for draw..but at any cost should not let the 1-0 lead to go away

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 19:03 GMT)

This match looks like it's heading toward a draw. Regardless of how long India bat or if or not they avoid the follow on, Cook will not enforce the follow on even if he had the option. So even if India get bowled out cheaply tomorrow, England will probably bat all day, unless Indian bowlers churn out some magic, which at the moment, seems unlikely, especially without Ishant. So my prediction is that this match is headed toward a draw, provided Indian batsmen can emulate SA's stonewalling act on Day 5, but India will find it much easier since this pitch isn't showing signs of wearing out yet, and even if it did, Moeen Ali and J Root are not exactly Ajmal or Herath or Swann, so India might just scrape through to a draw on Day 5. BUT, Cricket has thrown bigger surprises, so I wouldn't be too shocked if India bat for two sessions tomorrow, or if they get bowled out and England enforce the follow on and win, or if they get bowled out, but Indian bowlers roll out England for under 100-150.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (July 29, 2014, 18:55 GMT)

@ electric_loco_WAP4....India 323/8...hope you saw that score...Broad and company could not polished of tail as you expected...tomorrow India surely avoid follow on....the test will be end either in draw (70%) or in India's win (30%)

Posted by tests_the_best on (July 29, 2014, 18:46 GMT)

India on the backfoot but atleast they showed some fight and got past 300 unlike the horrors of 2011.

They have already batted 3 and half sessions, can they do it again for close to 4 sessions in the 2nd innings? Factors in favor: Confidence from lasting around 4 sessions in 4th innings; might not repeat the mistakes of Rohit/Rahane playing loose shots as they wont be going after runs. Factors against: 4th innings pressure with only draw as the favorable option and attacking fields; Eng likely will up their intensity (though bowlers might be tired).

Either way, it's been good viewing, especially the last session where there was a constant struggle between atleast staying in the game, albeit on the back foot vs being completely out of it. 4th and 5th days should be exciting. Barring the first test, this series has been quite interesting, hopefully it stays that way for the remaining ones.

Posted by ShanNachimuthu on (July 29, 2014, 18:45 GMT)

The only chance for India to push for a draw is to make England bat again by avoiding follow-on. But not a bad effort by this young Indian team. Their were many collapses under 250 after giving away 500+ runs outside subcontinent in the past. Great bowling by England seamers, bowled with zest and bowled almost a wicket taking delivery in every other over, which was one in 10 overs while India was bowling. The weakness of Indian bowling is losing the zest in quick time. If the pitch does not assist then it means the bowlers should put extra effort consistently and catching and fielding should be extra sharp. Thats what England does and set the platform to level the series. If ENG were able to enforce the follow on then it will be comfortable win for them otherwise it will be tense win for ENG or a draw. Though it is impossible for Indian win, the match will be quite interesting as there will be an enthralling tussle between bat and ball.

Posted by PoundOfFlesh on (July 29, 2014, 18:41 GMT)

England did not have to get the Indian batsmen out twice in one innings (Ballance, Bell and Butler) Only Rahane was the lucky recipient of a bad decision from Tucker. Terrible Slip fielding by the Indians also helped the English batsmen.

Posted by Zacinthebox on (July 29, 2014, 18:32 GMT)

The only way India can save the game is by avoiding the follow on and then batting incredibly well in the 4th innings. I am looking at least 4 if not more sessions of India batting on day 4 and 5. It will be epic and historic if India can save this game. But the chances are looking slim. In the 4th innings, key players for India are Vijay and Pujara. At least one of them has to make a big century with key support from other batsman.

Posted by baskar_guha on (July 29, 2014, 18:31 GMT)

As of now, England clearly the better team in all departments in this test. It will be disappointing for them if they don't win from here. India has problems everywhere to deal with from slip catching to collective top order failures to listless bowling. They will consider a draw an achievement.

Posted by crazycricfan007 on (July 29, 2014, 18:29 GMT)

The problem for India overseas have been batting and not bowling. If our bowlers will have 560 behind they will surely be more impressive. Time and gain our batting has not proved much overseas. Partly due to technique and partly due to lack of concentration for long periods. Batsmen (esp. top 4) should understand the importance of playing overs and shut the opposition in first 90 overs. Runs will come as it did for England later (tired fielder and bowlers). Our batsmen should learn from English batsmen.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 18:26 GMT)

India should learn from England bowlers. see Anderson & broad their bowling length. only on off stump line. the ball either came in or outside the off stump only..one main thing was they were consistent in that length. watch the wickets. that will tell the. story

Posted by kirands on (July 29, 2014, 18:19 GMT)

Viewing it in isolation, 323 for 8 wickets does appear to be a very good score. However India are still playing catch up with the mammoth England score of 569, and they are 246 runs behind with only two wickets left, and with two full days' play remaining in the match. It's going to be really hard for India to save this match. There is no way England are going to enforce the follow on. Cook knows only too well that if he enforces the follow on, England are not going to win this match. Assuming India concede a lead of 225 runs, England will look to score about 220 runs and declare some time after tea tomorrow. India will be set a target of 440 to win, or more realistically survive 110 overs if they are to save the match. Batting 110 overs is difficult but by no means impossible. India did it a few times during the days of Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman. They can still save this Test and go to Old Trafford holding on to their 1-0 lead in the series.

Posted by devil_in_details on (July 29, 2014, 18:19 GMT)

While England kept getting wickets, the fact that Indian batsmen kept fighting throughout, was admirable and in tune with the character of this Indian team. Now India needs to get maximum juice out of its last two wickets tomorrow- time is as much of essence as runs. Then it has to bowl tight and keep the English batting for a couple of sessions and then bat for 4 sessions to save the match. Its hard work but can be done and indeed could be the making of this young Indian team.

Posted by tintukumar on (July 29, 2014, 18:18 GMT)

just saw pankaj,s 1st class record..he has 3 fifties..i hope shami and pankaj would give dhoni a good support to avoid follow on..in either case,it will be tough for eng bowlers to chip off india's 10 wickets in their 2nd innings seeing them bowl soo hard that they need a lot of rest

Posted by Angry_Bowler on (July 29, 2014, 18:15 GMT)

This will be 1 all! IPL kings worth what on these kind of pitches! Anybody's guess. I still wonder how India won at lards!

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 18:15 GMT)

if India gets past the first session of day 4 unscathed, it will do a world of good to the confidence of Indian dressing room. they will come out and try hard with their bowling.. I seriously doubt our bowlers taking another ten wickets.. but, India will definitely draw this match for sure.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 18:10 GMT)

Lot of people are talking about this test.Lets look at the forest from dhoni's prespective. 5 match series ,2 are done ,third one is on a pitch that has batting written all over it . So if you are one up on the series to england he wants to draw this and put pressure on england. If he manages to execute this plan then we have two matches left with england under pressure.Looking his idea to rest ishant and not have bowlers to take 20 wickets that clearlytells mehe is playing this match for draw.I wont be surprised if gets to draw it then he is not going to want to play for the win the next one too. AT THIS POINT in his carrier he wants A SERIES WIN in england doesnt matter if it says 1-0 or 2-0 or 2-1 The plan is to draw the test and move on to next one.

Posted by sudhindranath on (July 29, 2014, 17:58 GMT)

Day 4.

India needs to get England's lead to less than 150. And then restrict England to less than 150 by close of play, taking as many wickets as they can.

England needs to get a 200+ run lead first. Then score 200+ and declare an hour after tea, setting India a 400+ target in about 100 overs. Then take a wicket or two in the 10 overs before close.

Posted by InnocentGuy on (July 29, 2014, 17:58 GMT)

Given the facts, I would think that this isn't a bad performance from India at all. They saved the first match, won the second and have crossed 300 again now. Although this is definitely a much better performance as against the 2011 one, I would be supremely disappointed if India do worse than lose 2-1 from here on out.

Posted by Temuzin on (July 29, 2014, 17:41 GMT)

Lets hope India avoids follow on tomorrow. MS is fighting hard and if Shami and Pankaj can chip in with few runs in avoiding follow on, Englands advantage may be nullified a bit. Go on India.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 17:39 GMT)

if india bat successfully without losing a wicket in tomorrow's morning session, then we are in for a definite draw, unless India destroy the ENG batting line up like they did against NZ in the 1st test. Dhoni has played a balanced innings with some short falls. I'm thinking India is missing Ishant in the bowling department.

Posted by sudhindranath on (July 29, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

Day 4 targets for England and India:

England: Take 200+ run lead. And score another 200+ runs to set up a 400+ target for India w/ a full day's play remaining (plus perhaps 8-10 overs on Day 4)

India: Try to reduce England's first innings lead to 150 or below. And then restrict their second innings scoring to below 150 by close, taking as many wickets as possible.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 17:13 GMT)

No issues with the Rahane non-dismissal for me. An incorrect decision. But not a bad decision. England had their luck with decisions in the first innings.

No issue with him not walking either. I'm not going to accuse him of cheating or anything silly like that.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 16:58 GMT)

okay ill say that my predictions were true when I said that all the indian batsmen are capable of scoring runs on this pitch.. indeed india batted deep in the innings.. but what really disappointed the fan inside me was that no big battles were won in any session.. india let even moin ali dominate and forced us to go in the shell against his bowling too.. from here with bhuvi and dhoni on strike, I see them batting till day four session 2 to give a huge relief for the fourth innings

Posted by HDG1978 on (July 29, 2014, 16:35 GMT)

I hope India can save this Test and retain their 1-0 lead going to Manchester. India's batting has been adequate in this series considering all their frontline batsmen are playing their 1st series in England. Keeping fingers crossed for India.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 16:33 GMT)

Woakes could do with a wicket. He's bowled pretty well. A wicket for his confidence. Also to increase the confidence of the England setup in him.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 16:10 GMT)

Dropped catches have been crucial this series in particular. Ballance was dropped at Lord's before making that hundred that kept England in the game. Kumar and Jadeja were dropped at Lord's before their match-winning partnership. Cook was dropped on Sunday early on and Buttler was yesterday. Perhaps Root dropping Jadeja will be a significant moment in this game?

This partnership from Dhoni and Jadeja has been frustratingly sensible. A couple of mistakes here and there. Kumar still to come don't forget. England will hope to use this new ball to bowl out India tonight, or it could be a tough day tomorrow.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 29, 2014, 15:46 GMT)

All the Eng bowlers bending their backs and pounding this pitch real hard. Almost all of them touching 90mph @ times. Tells 1 reason why a pitch that was deemed dormant,flat best part of 2 days has looked far livelier.Right oh!New duke due next over-80th.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 29, 2014, 15:36 GMT)

Been mighty good effort by Eng in the field,bowling that find them in a dominant position.Pitch didnt provide help as expected,was not much swing too.This Eng attack could even be 3rd best after Aussies and SA. Theres some potential for sure.

Posted by BeAHuman on (July 29, 2014, 15:27 GMT)

Another bad decision by Dhoni. Rohit is unreliable and although he has class, does not really do much in test matches and throws away his wicket often. With Dhawan. Pujara, and Kohli failing, it was a bad decision to pick Rohit. Aswin might have been a better choice or Binny even. If India must go in with 6 regular batsmen, then they need two useful part-time bowlers from the 6 as there is no genuine allrounder. So India must play Jadeja, Aswin or Binny (or someone else who is okay with bat and ball) + 3 pace bowlers. In this match Dhoni should have picked Gambir for Dhawan. Also MSD does not bat well in tests overseas. So essentially it has been only Vijay and Rahane in batting with contributions from Jadeja, Bhuvi, and Binny...and the tail.

Also after just a test win everyone thought that England was done. Hello they are not playing in India so how could India relax?

In fact even in the last test things were clear - India needed another bowler. Somehow the batting scrapped through.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (July 29, 2014, 15:24 GMT)

Watching masterclass Eng bowling performance on star1 here in India.Game situation as expected,Ind 6 down now.With Dhoni,Jad @ crease we are virtually into long tail.Think Jimmy,Broad will be on soon to polish off.Cook to make his 2nd big call-follow on?

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 15:14 GMT)

This post tea session on Day 3 could very well decide the fate of this Test match. There's been an issue with the temperament of some of these young talented Indian batsman.Almost all of them have got starts and got out just when it looked like if they are set for a Big One. Rahane is the Big Fish for the Poms. India needs to pull a leaf out of SA's book and try to bat until Lunch tomorrow that is the only way they could save this Test match while England would be keen to bowl them out quickly and bat aggressively tomorrow for a session and a half . Four Sessions to negotiate and it would take a mammoth effort from India to salvage a Draw. Fingers Crossed !

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 14:59 GMT)

i dont know many more about test cricket but i know idia will win....india is the land of cricket

Posted by Eclipse0990 on (July 29, 2014, 14:34 GMT)

@entryholedia.. it ain't over yet my friend. Not until India has lost 20 wickets. Did you watch the SL-SA second match? Sl had SA on their knees but still couldn't win as SA batsmen did not give up. That's what you're looking at here. So I'm sure Indian loss will give you a reason to celebrate but that's just one out of three possibilities as of now.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 14:28 GMT)

These 2 batsmen looking very good currently and don't look like getting out. England need something from somewhere. Dhoni, who doesn't have a great test record, but batted brilliantly in 2013 in test cricket, and is the best ODI finisher in world cricket, will be dangerous. Not to mention Jadeja with domestic triple hundreds and England's nemesis Kumar.

Posted by entryholedia on (July 29, 2014, 14:22 GMT)

The Indian commentary contingent analyse our batsmen's fallibility against quick bowling when they themselves were the same way when they started & ended . WE know how our batting greats fell in the last English tour . The most insipid of attacks in the world is being analysed in great detail for what purpose is not known . Zaheer even after years of experience still could not maintain the magnetic line necessary for a medium fast bowler & Shami is no different .

Posted by entryholedia on (July 29, 2014, 14:12 GMT)

Ishant sharma bounced out England at Lords on a wearing track something very alien to Indian 'Fast men'( Are they fast at all?) and we in India were all amusing ourselves watching the English weaving & trying to evade the shot pitched stuff . Remember India really hurt Broad both in kind & mind . Now its payback time for the Englishmen who are now doubly armed with a huge score-569( Courtesy a gentle insipid attack) & two additional quick men one of West Indian decent & other a John snow type , both of whom mean business . Broad is gradually coming good to a limit which is good enough for Indian talented 'young' batsmen. Remember when Lloyd could not dismiss India in '1976 by straight forward fast bowling he resorted to shortpitched stuff which took the wind out of India courtesy Holding et al . This strategy is still being followed first in the '2011 'Sorrow summer ' of India then at South Africa in the last tour . So dear India even God cannot save you guys .

Posted by wapuser on (July 29, 2014, 14:04 GMT)

Come on viru...and show ur capability. ..

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 14:04 GMT)

Such an important test after england being 0-1 down in this series and they bring jordan for plunket for what? plunket bowled very well and even batted well too in the previous 2 tests and this is extremely bad bowling by jordan, he is giving all the initiative from england back to india, recently i have not seen such poor bowling by any other test bowler. i am still not sure what is he trying to do? is he showing his anger against cook for dropping him after SL series or is he in such poor form? bad luck for england because anderson and broad did some reasonably good work and jordon is wasting all the good work of his senior bowlers.

Posted by NYCSid on (July 29, 2014, 14:03 GMT)

If Rahane can score a 100 on a green top, I will place my bet on a possible double hundred on this runway pitch.

Posted by wapuser on (July 29, 2014, 13:37 GMT)

Winning England would make series fascinating

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 13:36 GMT)

Best thing to happen for this test would be India all-out about 150 runs behind around lunch tomorrow.

Posted by Pritt32 on (July 29, 2014, 13:34 GMT)

India is heading for a heavy defeat. England have bounced back strongly amidst criticism from media and former players. The hosts have batted superbly and bowling very well. India simply have woke up in the wrong side of the bed, as they bowled abysmally and struggling in the batting against Anderson and Broad. 569 for 7 is a mountain to climb for India at 140 for 4. Few Indian batmen need to be dropped like Dharwan as he struggled to play good deliveries outside off stump. He is not a test standard player. India must player better than this in the remaining matches. It is simply not good enough. Ashwin must return. Please do not let us down by playing sloppy cricket.

Posted by Collegefastbowler on (July 29, 2014, 13:33 GMT)

If you pack you side with batsmen, you will definitely need them as your weak bowling will find it hard to get the opposition out. So it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that you need so many batsmen. The key is to find the right balance, you need an attack that can take 20 wickets else the opposition can put pressure on you by putting up big scores. Pressure can reduce the effectiveness of your batting strength. It is important to select your best 4 bowlers + 1 all rounder and 5 specialist batsmen and a keeper batsman.

Posted by wapuser on (July 29, 2014, 13:32 GMT)

Overspent indian bowling has nothing to offer Poor batting display. All had starts but failed to convert.same overseas story

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (July 29, 2014, 13:25 GMT)

Lucky toss for England to win ..win the toss win the match type of pitch...

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 13:15 GMT)

Looks like India are going to be following on! Going to get no where near England's total.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

I still think this game will end in a draw. Hopefully England can prove me wrong.

Good to see Cook having some confidence in Ali and Woakes.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 12:38 GMT)

Interesting session. Wickets. Runs.

England should be wary of India's long and talented batting lineup.

Woakes has looked good, as have Anderson and Broad, considering the criticism they've copped. Jordan has been disappointing however.

Rahane was probably out but England have had their luck this match. He will look to do what Bell, Cook and Buttler did and score plenty of runs. I wouldn't have said the decision was bad, just wrong. There is a difference.

Posted by 122notoutWestByfleet1996 on (July 29, 2014, 12:34 GMT)

cannot understand why Plunkett has been dropped for Woakes

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (July 29, 2014, 12:32 GMT)

Virat and Jinx need to bat till the close.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (July 29, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

Another poor decision that DRS could have reversed. Why is it not being used?

Posted by Harlequin. on (July 29, 2014, 12:16 GMT)

I get the feeling that England really need to bowl India out today, or at the least have them 8 down. If India can drag this innings on until tomorrow lunch time then I can't see the English bowlers having the energy to get another 10 wickets in a day and a half.

Posted by CodandChips on (July 29, 2014, 12:14 GMT)

Pretty even session I think. Perhaps England's slightly ahead but should be wary of this long batting lineup of India that is full of talented players.

Woakes has really impressed me. Jordan however has looked poor. Anderson and Broad have done well, which is good considering the criticism they've copped.

Rahane caught behind was unlucky, but England's players had plenty of luck. Will Rahane go on like them? It was a good take from Buttler. Let it not be forgotten that Rahane fell victim to that howler at Lord's. I don't even think this umpiring decision was bad. Incorrect but not bad.

Posted by wapuser on (July 29, 2014, 12:10 GMT)

Wait for Virat s 211 and Rahane s 155

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 12:09 GMT)

If India just get somewhere near 450, they surely can compete for a draw in the game. Right now ENG are slightly ahead. We need V Kholi and Rahane to create a good partnership and continue head on. Targeting M Ali and Jordan would be best for India.

Posted by   on (July 29, 2014, 12:08 GMT)

unlucky rahane was not given out, it would have been 108 for 4 now at lunch, but bad umpiring has helped england batsmen too, so no much comment on that.

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