India in England 2014 August 3, 2014

Plunkett ruled out of fourth Test, Finn recalled

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England squad announced for fourth Investec Test

Liam Plunkett, the England fast bowler, will miss the fourth Investec Test starting on Thursday with an ankle injury. Steven Finn replaces him in the squad for Old Trafford.

Rested from the third Test, Plunkett will now sit out the fourth with the hope of recovering in time to be in contention for the fifth and final Test at The Oval, starting on August 15.

"Liam Plunkett experienced some left ankle discomfort at the end of the second Investec Test and will miss the fourth Test as this continues to settle,'' the ECB said in a short statement on their website.

Plunkett sent down 94 overs in the opening two Tests of the India series, taking seven wickets at 41.28. He was replaced at the Ageas Bowl by Chris Jordan, who went wicketless.

Finn's recall marks a significant step in his return from a chronic loss of form that blighted his Ashes tour.

He was considered unselectable in Australia and has spent the months since back at Middlesex trying to become the bowler once touted as England's best young fast bowler.

He has not played a Test since July 2013 against Australia at Trent Bridge but has taken 90 wickets in 23 Tests at 29.40.

This season Finn has taken 44 wickets in 29.72 in Division One of the County Championship - the fourth-best haul in the competition.

His return to form had already been recognised by the ECB with his selection for England Lions' triangular one-day series with Sri Lanka A and New Zealand A. Finn's place in the Lions squad will be taken by Warwickshire seamer Boyd Rankin who also struggled on the Ashes tour but was selected for the final Test in Sydney, only to take 1 for 81.

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  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 5, 2014, 5:21 GMT

    @Patchmaster on (August 4, 2014, 22:23 GMT), that would be great but I think the sun has set on Tremlett's international career. He had some serious back injuries and if he wasn't back up to par for the last Ashes then, given his age, I think that he's done his dash. It's a shame for someone to wait that long for a chance at international cricket, do so well and then be brought low by injuries after such a short period. He's not the first though, and he won't be the last. Many England fans were happy to make snide remarks about the durability of many of Australia's fast bowlers but plenty of England bowlers have had significant injury issues (Onions, Tremlett, Bresnan, Broad) and England probably don't have quite the same reserves as Australia.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 5, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    @onepleaseumpire it's always Indian team as hunger tigers in overseas.. as arun bose rightly said it's just a confidence we got in our team and we believe in their resurgence in the next matches..just one of those days where eng found luck going their way in third test can't completely rate off Indian side..England must have overplayed their players with 5 match series succumbing to defeats big morale loser, then in series against sl ..so eng has its own loop hole playing long series..ashes white wash hardly go out of their mind.. this is just a analogy in ur way. India already applying themselves in this series, will not be a bother in 5 match series.. hope don't be too complacent at eng team and rule off india possibilities.. time will respond at its best!!!!

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | August 4, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    If ENG can get Finn, and Tremlett back and bowling well, they have the making of a seriously good bowling attack. Tremlett, Finn, Anderson, Broad - wow - that would be amazing.

  • POSTED BY niazbhi on | August 4, 2014, 19:05 GMT

    England will have to play Stokes and probably Woakes. England can consider Tremlett or Ryan Sidebottom, until Plunkett gets fit or Finn/Jordan gets better. If Ali bowls well, England will do well. They can keep Broad and Anderson fresh and have some threat in middle overs. Stokes can be the 4th bowler. Woakes can be a threat with the new ball. If Ali becomes a part time spinner, England will face all sorts of issues. If they do not get a wicket in the opening spell, they have to rest Anderson and Broad and india might build a big score.

  • POSTED BY wiiCricket on | August 4, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    I have always regarded Finn highly. He has pace, bounce and advantage of height. He is a great talent but badly managed. I am glad he is back!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 13:59 GMT

    @Pavish RS- Yes, They will! No force on Earth or heaven could stop them from coming back out of the defeat of Southampton and win this series! I know it, You know it and in few days time the entire world will know it ...

  • POSTED BY liz1558 on | August 4, 2014, 13:48 GMT

    @dunger.bob - a truce on the anniversary of the commencement of WWI! Agreed about pace - although, not sure why you left out Harris. Never a fan of Andy Flower's death by off stump medium pace tactics. England will need Finn if they are going to challenge Aus next year. MJ has got a point to prove in England - he clearly didn't like the crowd abuse, and England will want to mix it up. Australians seem to despise Jimmy Anderson, partly because he's good, and partly because he's not as good as English press make him out to be. It might be his last Ashes, so he will have something to prove as well. As long as everyone stays fit on both sides, it could be a cracking series.

  • POSTED BY USA_Desi_Cric_Fan on | August 4, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    whew please play with five bowlers india time to have varun aaron, gautam gambhir and ashwain back into team in the 11. dhawan does not seem to be in form.

  • POSTED BY Englishmanabroad on | August 4, 2014, 11:14 GMT

    I like Chris Jordan, however his performance in the 3rd test was pretty abysmal. If England were on a good winning streak, and full of confidence, I would probably say "keep him in!", but in the current situation where confidence is just (hopefully) starting an upswing, I would have to take him out. I wouldn't want anyone in the team who might be perceived as a "weak link".

    I think Finn would be the best replacement and would add some "possibility" to the team. It's true that he can be a bit wild, but based on his last performance, Jordan was no better, and Finn's extra speed and bounce might unsettle the Indian bats.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    Indians will middle the right changes and strike back with a bang

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 5, 2014, 5:21 GMT

    @Patchmaster on (August 4, 2014, 22:23 GMT), that would be great but I think the sun has set on Tremlett's international career. He had some serious back injuries and if he wasn't back up to par for the last Ashes then, given his age, I think that he's done his dash. It's a shame for someone to wait that long for a chance at international cricket, do so well and then be brought low by injuries after such a short period. He's not the first though, and he won't be the last. Many England fans were happy to make snide remarks about the durability of many of Australia's fast bowlers but plenty of England bowlers have had significant injury issues (Onions, Tremlett, Bresnan, Broad) and England probably don't have quite the same reserves as Australia.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 5, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    @onepleaseumpire it's always Indian team as hunger tigers in overseas.. as arun bose rightly said it's just a confidence we got in our team and we believe in their resurgence in the next matches..just one of those days where eng found luck going their way in third test can't completely rate off Indian side..England must have overplayed their players with 5 match series succumbing to defeats big morale loser, then in series against sl ..so eng has its own loop hole playing long series..ashes white wash hardly go out of their mind.. this is just a analogy in ur way. India already applying themselves in this series, will not be a bother in 5 match series.. hope don't be too complacent at eng team and rule off india possibilities.. time will respond at its best!!!!

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | August 4, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    If ENG can get Finn, and Tremlett back and bowling well, they have the making of a seriously good bowling attack. Tremlett, Finn, Anderson, Broad - wow - that would be amazing.

  • POSTED BY niazbhi on | August 4, 2014, 19:05 GMT

    England will have to play Stokes and probably Woakes. England can consider Tremlett or Ryan Sidebottom, until Plunkett gets fit or Finn/Jordan gets better. If Ali bowls well, England will do well. They can keep Broad and Anderson fresh and have some threat in middle overs. Stokes can be the 4th bowler. Woakes can be a threat with the new ball. If Ali becomes a part time spinner, England will face all sorts of issues. If they do not get a wicket in the opening spell, they have to rest Anderson and Broad and india might build a big score.

  • POSTED BY wiiCricket on | August 4, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    I have always regarded Finn highly. He has pace, bounce and advantage of height. He is a great talent but badly managed. I am glad he is back!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 13:59 GMT

    @Pavish RS- Yes, They will! No force on Earth or heaven could stop them from coming back out of the defeat of Southampton and win this series! I know it, You know it and in few days time the entire world will know it ...

  • POSTED BY liz1558 on | August 4, 2014, 13:48 GMT

    @dunger.bob - a truce on the anniversary of the commencement of WWI! Agreed about pace - although, not sure why you left out Harris. Never a fan of Andy Flower's death by off stump medium pace tactics. England will need Finn if they are going to challenge Aus next year. MJ has got a point to prove in England - he clearly didn't like the crowd abuse, and England will want to mix it up. Australians seem to despise Jimmy Anderson, partly because he's good, and partly because he's not as good as English press make him out to be. It might be his last Ashes, so he will have something to prove as well. As long as everyone stays fit on both sides, it could be a cracking series.

  • POSTED BY USA_Desi_Cric_Fan on | August 4, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    whew please play with five bowlers india time to have varun aaron, gautam gambhir and ashwain back into team in the 11. dhawan does not seem to be in form.

  • POSTED BY Englishmanabroad on | August 4, 2014, 11:14 GMT

    I like Chris Jordan, however his performance in the 3rd test was pretty abysmal. If England were on a good winning streak, and full of confidence, I would probably say "keep him in!", but in the current situation where confidence is just (hopefully) starting an upswing, I would have to take him out. I wouldn't want anyone in the team who might be perceived as a "weak link".

    I think Finn would be the best replacement and would add some "possibility" to the team. It's true that he can be a bit wild, but based on his last performance, Jordan was no better, and Finn's extra speed and bounce might unsettle the Indian bats.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 11:10 GMT

    Indians will middle the right changes and strike back with a bang

  • POSTED BY dscoll on | August 4, 2014, 10:53 GMT

    It's great to see Finn back. He's got all the attributes of a great bowler, all he needs is a bit of confidence and he'll start shooting up the rankings. I honestly believe he'll be world No 1 in a couple of years, when Steyn starts to fade.

  • POSTED BY Prodger on | August 4, 2014, 10:31 GMT

    I saw Finn bowl at Scarborough two weeks ago and his performance was not encouraging, his control was awry and he was treated with disdain by the Yorks batsmen. Figures of 20 overs 0-88 tell the story, culminating in him been hit back over his head for six by young Jack Leaning

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 4, 2014, 10:20 GMT

    @Kentaccountant, mabe, however when you have 3 of your 4.5 bowlers who have shared 170 overs during the previous weeks test, there arnt that many fresh sets of legs to turn to.

    When you look at it, plunkett only bowled 37 overs compared to Anderson (54 overs), and broad (45 overs).

    As far as I could see they didn't use Bodyline tactics, which largely required the bowler to bowl on the Leg stump them attack the off, and FYI bodyline wasn't that successful, it bought a few wickets but the majority of the wickets were off regular deliveries.

    In fact India bowled More leg theory in the lords test than England.

  • POSTED BY xtrafalgarx on | August 4, 2014, 10:14 GMT

    @dunger.bob: Morkel and Harris would be a bit stiff there! Harris, despite all the talk about Johnson, actually clocked over 150kph in the series in SA a few times and touched the mark in AUS. Morkel shouldn't be fogotten either, he brutalised Michael Clarke at 150kph as well, i think he touched 153kph at some point.

  • POSTED BY Kentaccountant on | August 4, 2014, 9:44 GMT

    @Yorkshirepudding - not blaming the captain 100% but he should be having more input and deal with it quicker. Look at Clarke's handling of Johnson in the winter (and summer come to think of it) if he wasn't quite firing he was taken out of the attack and brought back later to clear out the tail. Plunkett's bodyline tactics - was that Cook's idea? It went a long way to losing the Lords test. Devon Malcolm - not a very good comparison. He was either on his game or not - mostly not.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | August 4, 2014, 9:42 GMT

    @ liz1558 : I'm pretty sure you and I have had our run-ins in the past, but I'd back you 100% on Finn. .. the Americans say that in life 'there just ain't no substitute for raw horse-power'. Well, in cricket, the rawest of all horse-power is a 90 mph + bowler. .. good luck to him. At the moment the cricket world needs heaps more horse-power. We have Steyn as a bit of a constant with Johnson providing the cameos. Other than those two, the cupboards a bit bare.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 4, 2014, 9:27 GMT

    @ R_U_4_REAL_NICK, to be fair about the weather, it is in Manchester, one of the wettest places in the UK where test cricket is played, except for maybe Cardiff.

    As you say they said they would be rotating the squad simply because of the work load and lack of rest available between games. Plunkett ran the equivalent of 17Km in those 94 overs, add on the field changes, training, running after balls in the field, and it may well be closer to 30Km, possibly more. Its a hell of a work load, and niggles will creep in.

  • POSTED BY Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on | August 4, 2014, 9:23 GMT

    Robson isn't up to test level yet, he needs to go back to county cricket and sought he's technique, move Root back up to open maybe. And where is Compton these days?

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 4, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    @Kentaccountant, Simply blaming the captain for a bowler being unable to bowl the right line and length is a massive leap.

    Were Atherton,gooch and Nass responsible for devon Malcoms lack of radar.

    you mention Brearley, but what you don't mention is that Botham was always capable of the Bowling the right lines and lengths, its just the captaincy fogged his judgement.

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 4, 2014, 9:03 GMT

    @Arun Bose (post on August 4, 2014, 4:22 GMT): "I don't think Cook will change the winning squad.. If he does that then it shows how immature he is as a captain."

    1. Cook is not a selector. 2. Really? If any of the players (e.g. Broad) are carrying niggles, then as I've been saying all series, THAT is the time to swap players and show some maturity/forward thinking. Running players into the ground for the sake of one series is not mature; it could jeopardize the future of certain bowlers. Also there was an article that came out at the start of the series that pretty much stated England would rotate their bowlers and give everyone a go. Most people, England and Indian fans alike, applauded that. Personally I don't mind which bowlers England go with next game. Since you've been posting everywhere about how bad the weather is going to be anyway, why would it matter whether the team is changed or not? You may wish to ask Indian fans how mature they think Dhoni is about the selections.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on | August 4, 2014, 8:55 GMT

    Good selection, just keep Saker away fom him!

  • POSTED BY liz1558 on | August 4, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    Good to see Finn back. Good to see Moores taking a risk on him. Andy Flower didn't appear to be the right sort of bloke to get the best out of Finn. Moores clearly likes the idea of a bit of raw pace - which has been missing from England's attacks since Flintoff and Harmy finished. Finn just needs someone to back him.

  • POSTED BY Kentaccountant on | August 4, 2014, 8:25 GMT

    Finn's breakdown last year, Jordan's difficulty in bowling a decent line and length in the last test - decent captaincy would have gone a long way to help this. Think Mike Brearley - the ability to get the best and then a bit more from players.

    Agree with the comments abut just letting Finn bowl quick, too many players are ruined by 'coaches' trying to get their techniques text book perfect. Unorthodox technique doesn't see to have hampered Malinga, Colin Croft, Muli too much - text book coaches would have.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 4, 2014, 8:16 GMT

    While Finn seems to have found his lines and lengths in FC cricket, lets wait until hes played this test before making judgements, Old Trafford should have settled down now after the square was turned, and the results there seem to be showing that, with Kerrigan no where near as effective as he was last year.

  • POSTED BY Anil_Koshy on | August 4, 2014, 8:11 GMT

    India will find difficult to handle Finn, he is the ideal bowler who can destroy India with his pace and bounce, he is the perfect foil for Anderson and Broad. India will lose this series 3-1.

  • POSTED BY PeerieTrow on | August 4, 2014, 7:36 GMT

    @Rmano Manohar and @Arun Bose: To paraphrase your shared analogies, India's behaviour has awakened the sleeping tiger in the England set up and they could live to regret that over the next two tests. In addition you must bear in mind that India is not accustomed to playing five test series on other than home ground, and are already looking stretched and tired. This break between tests should have allowed Anderson and Broad to be well rested, so Anderson, Broad, Finn and Woakes will be relentless, particularly with Ali and Root wheeling away in support. I can't see India coping.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 7:21 GMT

    @jmcilhinney- There's a difference in what I said and what those English and other fans said.. I never mentioned abt England will lose or England can't win..I am talking prospects abt my team..I am not demoralising England, I am just encouraging my team.. While those fans aren't saying England will win but they are saying the negative thing like India can't win or India will lose again etc. I am not taking England lightly but I am just very confident abt my team's chances of winning this series.. Read my comment and their comments carefully.. You will see the difference.. I am being sporting while they are being downright insulting...

  • POSTED BY mirandola on | August 4, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    Finn was ruined by over-coaching and (management) concerns about his skittling the non-striker's end stumps in his run-up; this destroyed his natural action and melted his confidence. He should have been in the team all along, if only for his natural pace (at least a yard quicker than anyone else on show) and bounce - even if he didn't get the wickets, he would have terrified and unsettled India's batsmen. I hope England do what they ought to have done all along - tell him to bowl as fast as he can and forget EVERYTHING else. That's how fast bowlers bowl, and this guy is a fast bowler (if they let him play his natural game).

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 4, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    @Arun Bose on (August 4, 2014, 4:22 GMT), "India will strike back and win this series and show the world what these young Indians are made of". Are you sure that you're not taking England too lightly?

  • POSTED BY on | August 4, 2014, 5:53 GMT

    Finn's pace and bounce will make life difficult, for the Indians.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 5:51 GMT

    yes @arun bose well said..India has been a hunger tiger will come hard at England with 5 bowlers combination and with luck Winning the toss. .England bowlers become toothless once they are seen off with their new ball bowling..as we seen this from ashes onto current. .Indian team is capable of coming back strongly and we believe ..

  • POSTED BY on | August 4, 2014, 5:47 GMT

    Finns selection is another step in the direction for redemption of England test team.

  • POSTED BY bMike on | August 4, 2014, 4:23 GMT

    I think including Finn in the squad itself makes a huge pressure on Indian team since it brings back 4-0 whitewash memories of 2011. It won't be a surprise if India lose my an inning..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 4, 2014, 4:22 GMT

    Taking opposition lightly is the first step towards defeat(Eternal rule in sports and life) and some English fans are doing just that.. India may have lost the third test but they haven't lost the series yet.. I read many comments from those same fans after Lord's that England cannot come out of this defeat and would lose the series but English team proved them wrong..India too is capable of coming out of this defeat and strike back.. Finn is a good bowler no doubt but he's inconsistent and he won't be selected for 4th test as I don't think Cook will change the winning squad.. If he does that then it shows how immature he is as a captain..India will strike back and win this series and show the world what these young Indians are made of... Go ahead, Take India lightly and see what happens.. 19th August 2014 will be mine here at cricinfo.. And I know that! I believe in my team even if they don't believe in themselves.. It ain't over till it's over! #Bleedblue #JAIHIND!

  • POSTED BY on | August 4, 2014, 4:17 GMT

    I will comment on Finn only after he bowls in this test. Cricket is such a difficult and complex game and it is difficult to predict anything. Jordan was expected to do much better but nobody could understand what he was trying to do in the previous test. If a bowler who has overall around 8 to 10- years of total experience in bowling since they started to do bowling in the earliest career of their cricket life and still do not understand how to bowl a decent line and length in a test match then this cricket game must be a very complex and difficult game. So it is difficult really to predict anything. I hope Finn will bowl very well and try to both control the run rate and get some wickets too but only when he actually bowls we can find out the truth - whether he will bowl well or not. Every sport and game is difficult and complex in its own ways but cricket must be among the most difficult and complex games and nothing can be predicted in this game. All the best Finn!

  • POSTED BY Udendra on | August 4, 2014, 4:08 GMT

    Stumps (at the non-strikers end), watch out!

  • POSTED BY on | August 4, 2014, 4:05 GMT

    Finn is excellent choice for Eng. There had been tall bowlers in cricket earlier too, but guys who can generate unexpected bounce are difficult to handle. Finn is one such bowler. From unexpected bounce I mean the bounce from good length, not from short of length, banged in, which batsmen expect to rise. With this speed is just minor factor though we know that Finn does crank it up too. I also expect Pankaj to come good due to same qualities. But going into last 2 matches of the series, Eng dead weight either been removed or started performing while we have created doubts for ourselves. I would like Gambhir for Dhawan. Ghambir may fail but that won't make much difference as we are hardly getting anything out of our opening, but if he gets in, goes to 20-30 he won't throw like Dhawan does. I will also like Ash in place of Rohit, he will score more/equal than him and Eng have lot of left handers. Also may be Varun for Shami who need to take a break. Compete well instead of meek surrender

  • POSTED BY Sexysteven on | August 4, 2014, 3:45 GMT

    To me Finn has to be in the playing team for either Jordan or woakes Finns extra pace should help test the Indian batsmen and I would bring hales in to open with Cook hales aggression would compliment cooks batting I would try and find away to get eion Morgan into the test team that would even up the ballance between aggressive players and the anchors nicely plus the fact getting Morgan back into the test setup that would give England a captaincy option cos let's face it they will be looking for anew captain after next years ashes Clarke will expose Cooks Inapt captaincy if they don't get exposed before them but looks like Cook will get by to the ashes then when they lose 3or 4nil to the Aussies they will have to get anew captain but if they do it now there's a chance England might make a fight of the ashes next year but if Cook is captain at the ashes I'll be putting a lot of money on the Aussies cos there's no way England can win the ashes with Cook as captain we all know that

  • POSTED BY THEBEAST7 on | August 4, 2014, 2:56 GMT

    Excellent! I am a firm believer in Stev Finns ability. 6' 7" tall, strong lad. Got 90 wickets under his belt. He is expensive but when you look at the wickets column, he will always have a place in my test team. He makes the batsman play strokes. Thats how he pick up wickets. In helping conditions with his height and the ability to move the ball both ways (not to mention the bounce he can generate) he will be deadly contender for the indian batting line up. IF Finn and Chris Tremlet played regularly in the last 12 to 15 months, England would not have lost so many games.

  • POSTED BY cjscanada on | August 4, 2014, 2:40 GMT

    I feel now with Finn in the side it will be an uphill task for the Indians to save the series. India has gone ion with a very unbalanced side by including Rohit and as mentioned earlier Jadeja is not a Test player. I would like Ashwin to be in the team and give Binny a fair chance, instead of Rohit. Also Pankaj looks good though he has not taken a wicket and pray that Kohli and Pujara come to form. I think England will take this 2-1 or 3-1. Do not see this Indian side winning, as I am sure Dhoni's not going to change his thinking. By being defensive he has give the likes of Bell and Cook the confidence. England did capitalize and play well but we clearly missed a genuine spinner. Ashwin has not played a lot of overseas test. Give him time and he will turn into a match winner overseas as well and he has good batting techniques as well which compensates for his slowness in fielding. Good luck to both teams.

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | August 4, 2014, 2:25 GMT

    Very good time for Finn to come and get into form right away as Bell/Cook did. English selectors have played better mind games by rotating the all-rounders and woakes can be retained for the 4th test. Finn creates confusion on the off stump both swinging in and out and is difficult to face if batsman's objective is to just survive for a draw. Broad has to prove he is a match winner on his day in the next two tests.

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | August 4, 2014, 0:50 GMT

    @sheru-sher: It is one thing to play for a draw on the afternoon of Day 4 if the chances of a win are lower than the chances of a loss. It is quite another to play for a draw from Day 1 (which is what Dhoni did in the 3rd Test; he tried to play for a draw from the very second session on that day). That usually doesn't go very well.

    If the pitch at Old Trafford assists the pacemen, as I suspect it would, then it would be hard to sit around there and play for a draw, no matter whether Dhoni packs the team with 7 batsmen or 8 batsmen. If the England bowling attack is Anderson, Broad, Finn, Woakes and Ali, they will keep taking wickets from time to time. India better put some runs on the board rather than try to putter around.

    It is better to try to win and lose a match, than try to play for a draw and lose it. Sure, a loss is a loss , but the latter will leave a bad taste in the mouth. At least in case of the former, you can have the satisfaction that you tried to win.

  • POSTED BY Dilmah82 on | August 4, 2014, 0:22 GMT

    It good for Finn. The English bowling coaches, and previous team directors stuffed him and some of the other bowlers up...Finn may go for a few runs, but he's a wicket taker who has pace and bounce when on song, making life uncomfortable for batsmen. Good foil for Anderson and Broad...just he needs to be able to go out a bowl freely without restrictions by coaches or captain!

  • POSTED BY Aashiyer on | August 3, 2014, 23:50 GMT

    India has to win this and then draw the next.

  • POSTED BY RayMcCooney on | August 3, 2014, 22:52 GMT

    Re Rankin CodandChips, I guess Moores has been rerunning his Father Ted videos. Never mind that; Edgbaston!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | August 3, 2014, 22:14 GMT

    @ ballsintherightareas wrote of "Will Gidman who has nearly 200 wicket at 21.86 over the last four seasons (22.82 this season) and averages 38.77 with the bat (50.78 this season). What more does the guy have to do?"

    Maybe he does not come from the "right sort of family" to be considered for selection? You don't expect common sense to rear it's ugly head do you?

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 22:04 GMT

    Cook Hales Balance Bell Root Moen Ali Butler Stokes Bresnan Broad Anderson

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 21:58 GMT

    Why is Bresnan overlooked... he is much better than CJ and Woakes with bat and ball?? For me Stokes ahead of Woakes and Bresnan ahead of CJ.. better with bat and ball.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 3, 2014, 20:43 GMT

    Good selection with Finn as he will rough up the Indians nicely in time for Johnston and Harris. Finn can easily get up to 90mph and quicker. Can only see the series go in England's favour now.

  • POSTED BY whoster on | August 3, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    England have a lot of bowlers who bowl at good pace, but having someone genuinely fast and hostile would give the attack a cutting edge. Finn could be consistently 90+mph when he had his tail up, and I hope he is rediscovering his past form.

    90 wickets in 23 Tests is no mean stat, and England have to keep him in mind. His economy rate wasn't exactly tidy, but he always got wickets, and at an average of less than 30.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 3, 2014, 20:17 GMT

    I wanna c Jordan given another chance and woakes not, neither did anything special but Jordan has proven himself before and is best catcher in England, hopefully Finn will get a game

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | August 3, 2014, 19:57 GMT

    of what I have seen this summer and this has been on a couple of occasions Finn looks ready. If you want him to be the world class bowler he can be then keep him away from Saker. God knows how many bowlers get screwed up by England and their coaching but if Anderson had been allowed to bowl as he did originally then he would have a lot more wickets by now. Saker must be sacked after this series and get a proper bowling coach in there. God knows why Mushy went but Saker must go

  • POSTED BY sheru-sher on | August 3, 2014, 19:50 GMT

    I have a feeling that India will play for a draw again as they did in the 3rd TEST match. If they do get a draw then they will again go for another draw in the last Test so they can go home at least with a drawn series. So probably they might go in with 7 batters , a wktpr and 3 bowlers. Having won the second Test they thought they could have easily played out for drawn games and go home with a series victory abroad.

  • POSTED BY CodandChips on | August 3, 2014, 19:50 GMT

    Stokes was the best bowler at Lord's and I assume he'll come in for Jordan.

    I wonder if Broad and Anderson will need a rest in either game. Especially with the world cup coming up and Broad's injury.

    Why is Rankin in the Lions squad? Has he done well for Warwickshire?

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    Consistency is vital at test level. Does Finn have it?

  • POSTED BY Jamie-1212 on | August 3, 2014, 18:25 GMT

    One change from the third test, Stokes will come in for Jordan.

    Woakes bowled well at the ageas bowl and will keep his place.

  • POSTED BY grahaam on | August 3, 2014, 18:08 GMT

    Rankin and Morgan can now go back and join the Irish, Finn is a good bowler and has adapted well during his time out..Good Luck if selected

  • POSTED BY Stumay on | August 3, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    Finn's back. That will keep the scorers busy with all the byes and no-balls. Has he really managed to fix the problems which were so debilitating to him only six months ago?

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 18:02 GMT

    Great news for England and bad news for India. Finn, in the limited time that he played on Indian dust bowls during their winning tour was hostile and troubled every Indian batsman. He will be more than a handful on lively English pitches. India should follow suit and send an SOS for Umesh Yadav. Let Umesh and Aaron on the Englishmen, with Bhuvi to back up. Ashwin should be brought back. Dhoni should also use Murali Vijay more with the ball, for he was impressive in the second test. Virat too should be encouraged to bowl for his sort of dibbly-dobbly will suit English conditions perfectly. Who knows a wicket or two could also rub off confidence onto his batting too.

  • POSTED BY siddhartha87 on | August 3, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    Great to see Finn again. He is a tremendous bowler and I hope to see him playing XI. I think Anderson ,Broad , Finn,Woakes will be pace quartet here. Stokes bowled well in Lord's but playing him and Woakes together will decrease England's power in attack.

  • POSTED BY venkatesh018 on | August 3, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    At the moment, Rankin is making a great case. He is looking in superb rhythm.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 3, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    I'm also excited to see Finn. Jordan looked off so hopefully they'll replace him with Finn

  • POSTED BY thevinodzz on | August 3, 2014, 15:59 GMT

    OMG.. Rahane is the nly Indian batsman or one of the 2 batsmen in this series so far.. He was Finn's bunny on England's last ODI tour of India... hope he plays him well this time

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 3, 2014, 15:56 GMT

    Just a quick comment on the squad- with Finn in for Plunkett, of the 13 in the squad no fewer than 8 are age 25 or less. Three others (Cook, Broad and Moeen) are 29, 28 and 27 respectively and that leaves Bell and Anderson, both 32, to carry the 'senior citizen' tag. I don't ever remember a younger England squad in my 55+ years of watching cricket.

    India are similarly a very young side, with only a couple of over-30s (Dhoni and Vijay). If Naman Ojha plays he would be another over-30, but I doubt he will.

    These are the two sides with the best young talent in world cricket and I hope and expect to see them tussling with each other for the #1 ranking in a couple of years.

  • POSTED BY Charlie101 on | August 3, 2014, 15:50 GMT

    I do feel that at this stage we have to consider Moen Ali as an all rounder despite his fantastic performance with the ball at Southampton so assuming Jimmy and SB pick themselves we have to select the 2 best fast bowlers in the country for the last 2 places. SB has proved himself to be a very capable no 8 and likewise Jimmy can hit runs so ability with the bat is irrelevant . So who is the best bowler out of Stokes , Woakes , Jordon , Plunkett when fit and Finn .

    If Plunkett was fit I have no doubt he would be playing at Old Trafford and I certainly see Finn as the closest to a Plunkett so I hope he gets a game. Stokes based on wickets taken at Lords would be next in line but whatever happens India look a bit jaded so we have a huge opportunity which I hope we can take .

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 3, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    There's really only one place up for grabs. Woakes bowled well at Southampton without any luck and he's a more than useful bat, with a FC average of 38 and 8 centuries. He should keep his place. Jordan, on the other hand, looked like Finn in Australia- no rhythm at all and thus no control or movement. He needs to get back to the FC game and bowl lots of overs.

    The issue is whether to replace him with Finn or Stokes. I thought Stokes was the best England bowler at Lord's, 5 wickets for 91 in the game and decent economy. He's also a great fielder. The problem has been his batting, but since that test he has made a 50 in a limited overs game. With Woakes in the side he could actually bat at #9.

    Finn when on song is genuinely quick, but his struggles are well-documented. He had a great start to the season, but has tapered off a bit. I'm not sure throwing him back in at this stage is a good thing, especially if Broad is still nursing hiis knee. I'd take Stokes for this test.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 3, 2014, 15:29 GMT

    I'm also excited to see Finn. Jordan looked off so hopefully they'll replace him with Finn

  • POSTED BY GrumpiusMaximus on | August 3, 2014, 15:16 GMT

    I welcome Finn's return. He's an excellent bowler when he bowls well. What I'd like to see is more consistency and less searching for the 'magic' delivery. When Anderson stopped looking for magic balls and worked on his consistency, his impact on matches became much greater. I think Finn might be a long-term prospect for Anderson's replacement. Seven years younger and all that.

    I would assume if anybody is going to go, it'll be Jordan. A very good young bowler but his return to the team was mediocre. I'd keep Woakes in. I'd be tempted to suggest Broad should come out and Jordan should stay in but Broad is a match winner - albeit an inconsistent one.

  • POSTED BY nev57 on | August 3, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    Plunkett being injured was the ideal opportunity for England to try something different. Not long ago they were crying out for a left arm fast bowler, so why not try Mark Footitt. He's bang in form and taking wickets. But no, back to one of the old boys!

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 14:49 GMT

    "Posted by ballsintherightareas on (August 3, 2014, 13:57 GMT)

    I like Finn, I really do, but he's averaging 29.72 this season.

    And then there's Will Gidman who has nearly 200 wicket at 21.86 over the last four seasons (22.82 this season) and averages 38.77 with the bat (50.78 this season). What more does the guy have to do? "

    i'd imagine A) take those wickets in Div 1 and B) add some more pace. i agree his figures are remarkable, but so are David Masters at my love (Essex) and he'd never get anywhere near any intentional team

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | August 3, 2014, 14:09 GMT

    I think the pitch for the 4th Test will not be a green top but it will be one that helps the fast bowlers. India's "fast" bowlers are either injured (Sharma) or limping (Kumar) or in woeful form (Shami) or still recovering from a bad Test debut (Singh). Other than that, the team has a few untested novices like Aaron and Pandey in the "fast" bowling department.

    India's trump card is now Ashwin so England will try to blunt that as much as possible. If the contest is between Sharma/Kumar/Shami/Singh/Pandey/Aaron on one side and Anderson/Broad/Finn/Woakes/Stokes/Jordan on the other side, clearly that is no contest at all! It makes sense to provide a pitch that helps the fast bowlers a bit. England will be able to take advantage of it much better than India could.

  • POSTED BY cric1965 on | August 3, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    Finn will add more power to Anderson,s army. If India can draw the test it will be a big success.

  • POSTED BY ballsintherightareas on | August 3, 2014, 13:57 GMT

    I like Finn, I really do, but he's averaging 29.72 this season.

    And then there's Will Gidman who has nearly 200 wicket at 21.86 over the last four seasons (22.82 this season) and averages 38.77 with the bat (50.78 this season). What more does the guy have to do?

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 3, 2014, 13:47 GMT

    Glad Finn is back he's a great player was sad to see him lose form. So I would say Anderson, broad, Woakes, Finn should be the line up with Ali spinner still. stokes bowled some good balls but his batting was terrible and as for Jordan well he looked completely different to the bowler against Sri Lanka kept bowling wides that Butler had know chance even Prior fully fit would have had difficulty stopping them.

  • POSTED BY whatawicket on | August 3, 2014, 13:46 GMT

    i think he would have been in the squad either way. with much rain at gods ground the wicket maybe not as hard as we were told a week ago.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 3, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    I'd be very surprised to see Finn selected for the fourth Test. He's just been added to the squad as cover in case of a last-minute injury. I'd expect to see England unchanged in fact. Woakes looked pretty good despite not taking a wicket and one poorish game won't be enough for them to lose faith in Jordan. Plunkett may have been recalled if he was fit but, with him ruled out, Jordan is definitely the next in line. He lacked a bit of control but he also bowled some good deliveries. He's had very little bowling for a while so hopefully he can put in a better showing this time. I'd expect Finn to be in the touring squad for the winter.

  • POSTED BY B.R.K.R on | August 3, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    the momentum is definitely with england with a comprehensive win in the last test, with bhuvi looking unlikely and most of the team out of sorts, england are the definite favourites to begin with

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 3, 2014, 13:12 GMT

    That's fantastic that Finn-knee is at least getting another look in. Woakes and Jordan, much like Pankaj Singh for India, bowled their hearts out last game but went wicketless; on another day either or both players could have been amongst the wickets. Plunkett, as I predicted before the series, has demonstrated great pace and roughed up some of the batsmen at times, but just doesn't look like being regularly amongst the wickets. All brawn and no brains...

    Doubt we'll see Finn-knee immediately thrown in for next game, but if England are sensible and go with those bowlers that are bowling well regardless of batting (whether that be Stokes, Woakes, Jordan etc.) then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to pull off another good performance like last game. If Broad is carrying any sort of niggle/doubt, then leave him out! I'm not saying he's bowled poorly (was fantastic last game actually) but just don't believe he's that critical for England as the selectors seem to believe he is.

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 13:06 GMT

    Finn can easily knock down any wicket of ANY opposition team in the world; at the bowler's end!

  • POSTED BY Balladeer on | August 3, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    All I can say is that it's bloody lucky for England that Anderson wasn't suspended. While Finn has definitely done enough to merit another call-up, I'm not sure that I'd necessarily risk him in a test quite yet. Might have a 2006-07 Harmison on our hands if he misfires. Of course, if he doesn't he could well be terrifying.

    Either way, Anderson/Broad/Woakes/Stokes or Finn seams (ha!) an attack to be reckoned with.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 3, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    Overjoyed to see Finn back! Always believed him to be a serious talent.. Somewhere along the lines of Morkel. Hope he replaces Jordan or Woakes in the playing eleven! (y)

  • POSTED BY TeamSelector on | August 3, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Fourth best haul, huh .... I wonder who got the 'first' best haul?

  • POSTED BY cric_lver on | August 3, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    thanx god..they don't called any uncapped player this time

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  • POSTED BY cric_lver on | August 3, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    thanx god..they don't called any uncapped player this time

  • POSTED BY TeamSelector on | August 3, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Fourth best haul, huh .... I wonder who got the 'first' best haul?

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 3, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    Overjoyed to see Finn back! Always believed him to be a serious talent.. Somewhere along the lines of Morkel. Hope he replaces Jordan or Woakes in the playing eleven! (y)

  • POSTED BY Balladeer on | August 3, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    All I can say is that it's bloody lucky for England that Anderson wasn't suspended. While Finn has definitely done enough to merit another call-up, I'm not sure that I'd necessarily risk him in a test quite yet. Might have a 2006-07 Harmison on our hands if he misfires. Of course, if he doesn't he could well be terrifying.

    Either way, Anderson/Broad/Woakes/Stokes or Finn seams (ha!) an attack to be reckoned with.

  • POSTED BY on | August 3, 2014, 13:06 GMT

    Finn can easily knock down any wicket of ANY opposition team in the world; at the bowler's end!

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 3, 2014, 13:12 GMT

    That's fantastic that Finn-knee is at least getting another look in. Woakes and Jordan, much like Pankaj Singh for India, bowled their hearts out last game but went wicketless; on another day either or both players could have been amongst the wickets. Plunkett, as I predicted before the series, has demonstrated great pace and roughed up some of the batsmen at times, but just doesn't look like being regularly amongst the wickets. All brawn and no brains...

    Doubt we'll see Finn-knee immediately thrown in for next game, but if England are sensible and go with those bowlers that are bowling well regardless of batting (whether that be Stokes, Woakes, Jordan etc.) then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to pull off another good performance like last game. If Broad is carrying any sort of niggle/doubt, then leave him out! I'm not saying he's bowled poorly (was fantastic last game actually) but just don't believe he's that critical for England as the selectors seem to believe he is.

  • POSTED BY B.R.K.R on | August 3, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    the momentum is definitely with england with a comprehensive win in the last test, with bhuvi looking unlikely and most of the team out of sorts, england are the definite favourites to begin with

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 3, 2014, 13:41 GMT

    I'd be very surprised to see Finn selected for the fourth Test. He's just been added to the squad as cover in case of a last-minute injury. I'd expect to see England unchanged in fact. Woakes looked pretty good despite not taking a wicket and one poorish game won't be enough for them to lose faith in Jordan. Plunkett may have been recalled if he was fit but, with him ruled out, Jordan is definitely the next in line. He lacked a bit of control but he also bowled some good deliveries. He's had very little bowling for a while so hopefully he can put in a better showing this time. I'd expect Finn to be in the touring squad for the winter.

  • POSTED BY whatawicket on | August 3, 2014, 13:46 GMT

    i think he would have been in the squad either way. with much rain at gods ground the wicket maybe not as hard as we were told a week ago.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 3, 2014, 13:47 GMT

    Glad Finn is back he's a great player was sad to see him lose form. So I would say Anderson, broad, Woakes, Finn should be the line up with Ali spinner still. stokes bowled some good balls but his batting was terrible and as for Jordan well he looked completely different to the bowler against Sri Lanka kept bowling wides that Butler had know chance even Prior fully fit would have had difficulty stopping them.