England v India, 5th Investec Test, The Oval, 1st day August 15, 2014

Dhoni fights but India's top order folds again

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England 62 for 0 (Robson 33*, Cook 24*) trail India 148 (Dhoni 82, Jordan 3-32, Woakes 3-30) by 86 runs
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Without MS Dhoni, India would have been entirely bereft. Even with his redoubtable effort, consolation was only skin deep as India succumbed tamely in exacting conditions on the opening day of the fifth Investec Test. If the appearance in a Test match of an old-fashioned England green seamer was cause for debate, the appearance of an old-style green Indian batting performance was wearyingly predictable.

Desperate to summon some resolve after an ignominious three-day defeat at Old Trafford, instead India were routed by the sixth over after tea, entirely unable to combat the moving ball. A young batting line-up, with scant experience in England conditions, looked devoid of confidence. England then emphasised their advantage by easing to 62 without loss in 19 overs by the close with Sam Robson earnestly seeking a more positive approach and India's bowlers hampered by the footholds.

Once again Dhoni stood firm for India while others foundered, last man out for 82, depositing Stuart Broad into the hands of long leg. "Well played mate," was Broad's send-off. Suddenly these teams are being nice to each other again. It was a strangely relaxed innings, failing to bring him a first Test hundred outside Asia, although that must have been far from his thoughts when the last man, Ishant Sharma, walked out with him on 32.

His appetite for Test captaincy has been questioned as the series has progressed, but he struck his fourth half-century of the series, a series of uninhibited blows bringing him 15 of India's 19 boundaries, the sheer parlousness of India's position ultimately allowing him to play much as he pleased. He hit 58% of India's runs off the bat: well played mate, indeed.

An unbroken last-wicket stand with Sharma, a stonewalling No. 11, brought India 58 in 17 overs and, if 148 remained a long way from respectability, they would have been dismissed for 90 had England appealed for a catch at the wicket off Chris Jordan when Dhoni was 32, and again for 96 had Ian Bell not dropped Ishant, on 1, at second slip, a rare blemish from a rejuvenated England slip cordon. This Test series has now produced more runs for the last wicket than any in history.

But even Dhoni, India's one figure of defiance, was fortunate not to become India's third duck of the morning. He got off the mark in streaky fashion as an outside edge against Chris Woakes escaped to third man. Nobody would present his technique as a model for English conditions, but once again he resisted vigorously.

As for Dhoni's team-mates, one particularly persistent pigeon spent more time on the pitch than many of them. Considering that Dhoni had skipped practice two days before the Test to go shooting, it was fortunate to escape with its life, even allowing for the fact that pigeon saag is not yet a Jharkhand culinary speciality.

For once, it was England's support bowlers who took most of the spoils. Woakes, who had bowled without much luck in the series, and Jordan both took three wickets, although Jordan's rewards came as bounty from heaven as his inconsistencies went unpunished. England's retention of the XI that trounced India at Old Trafford paid off handsomely.

Is it purely coincidence that since Dhoni pressed his campaign against James Anderson this series has turned so markedly in England's favour or was it the catalyst for England to cast aside their Ashes hangover?

Anderson is bowling with a conjurer's sleight of hand, his sledging less apparent these days, and groundsmen have loyally produced pitches to maximise India's discomfort, most obviously here at The Oval, once the home of dry, quick surfaces replete with runs. Thundery rain has fallen in London all week and enough grass remained on the pitch to expose India's naivety.

There are only three more successful new-ball pairings than England's new-ball pair, Anderson and Broad. They reached 350 Test wickets when opening the bowling together, a wicket apiece as Gautam Gambhir and Cheteshwar Pujara perished within six overs. India, remarkably, have not assembled a half-century opening stand for 17 Test innings.

Heavy rain on Thursday delayed the start for half an hour, but England only had to wait four balls for success once the Test got underway. Gambhir fell for nought, his first ball - from Anderson - leaving him transfixed as he attempted a half-hearted leave and only succeeded in guiding the ball to the wicketkeeper, Jos Buttler, off the full face of the bat. Pujara, late on the shot again, was beaten on the inside edge by Broad as he nipped one back to clip his top arm and hit the top of middle.

Broad, after talk of face masks and experiments in the nets with nose splints, opted not to wear protection on a broken nose that he described as "still a bit wobbly", if not quite as wobbly as a Dukes ball in the hands of his partner in crime, Anderson. Two black eyes made him look like a Goth with badly smudged eyeliner after a heavy night.

India managed only two boundaries by lunch, five wickets lost within 25 overs. Virat Kohli's sumptuous off drive when met by a rare overpitched delivery from Anderson might have belonged to another match; another summer. It was the sole reminder of the style that he had been expected to exhibit all summer. He was dismissed in the following over.

Kohli's run without a half-century in this series now stretches to nine innings, his average of 12.70 among the lowest ever recorded by an India batsman in a five-Test series. His leave alone in Jordan's first over looked reasonable enough, but when your luck is out the marginal decisions tend to go against you: umpire Kumar Dharmasena adjudged him lbw with replays suggesting the ball would have clipped off stump.

India keep repeating their mistakes. Ajinkya Rahane, who began the series so impressively, was out without scoring as a furtive push at Jordan meant that he fell to a return catch for the third time in the series, so continuing a mode of dismissal for him also seen at Lord's and Old Trafford. Jordan, struggling for consistency at the start of his Test career, had barely broken sweat and found himself with two wickets in his first two overs without conceding a run.

M Vijay has been India's staunchest batsman this summer, rarely exciting but certainly the hardest to dislodge. He laboured 64 balls for 18 before he became the fifth batsman to fall, angling Woakes to Joe Root at gully. Stuart Binny, preferred to Ravindra Jadeja, found himself batting by lunch.

Nothing changed after the interval, any hopes that conditions might ease proving erroneous. Anderson toyed with Binny, giving the impression that if he wished he could have turned him in so many directions that he could have tied him around the stumps in any knot you cared to mention: an outswinger, edged to Cook at first slip, extended England's most successful outfielder-bowler combination to 25 catches.

The rest fell to the change bowlers. Woakes removed R Ashwin courtesy of an excellent low catch by Root, Bhuvneshwar flung his bat at a short, wide outswinger, and a short ball into the body of Varun Aaron brought a hapless response and a return catch. That Dhoni dragged the innings out for so long after that was a tribute to his competitive zeal. Others would do well to learn from it.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • FlatTrakBully on August 17, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    Team should move on. 3-1 is similar to 4-0 loss, but its better than England's record of 5-0 loss,. (Practicing county without IPL, BBL)

  • ladycricfan on August 16, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    The more we see Binny the more it becomes obvious that he is not a test class all rounder. He might be effective in ODIs. Jadeja should've played instead of Binny. For fast bowling all rounder the best contender is Rishi Dhawan.

    Cook was lucky to have so many lives. But the Batting looks easy at the moment. If India could restrict Eng under 300 And bat sensibly in the 3rd innings anything can happen. Fingers crossed.

  • CluelessJan on August 16, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Its inevitable, a 3-1 series test loss to India. What is more disappointing is the way England have steam rolled the Indians. Its pathetic to watch.

  • Shibu1981 on August 16, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    This test is going to "ONE DIRECTION" from here- Innings victory for Enland , No miracles are expected from this Indian team & even "Rain Gods" are not going to save India from a defeat. Even the conditions were against them, 4th test Manchester India won the toss decided to bat but conditions were against and bowled out inside 50 overs, Second innings-rain gods were there to help India on the 4th & 5th Day but India decided to finish the game ASAP on the 3rd day & take rest on 4th & 5th day watching thunder raining.5th test lost the toss again conditions were against them & bowled out inside 150 runs...pathetic...this Indian team are not supposed to win....look who has played 100 balls per innings in 4th & 5th test ....only dhoni........I am not a MSD fan....but still he is the best batsman so far from this Indian side....One could say he is the most experienced player in the Indian line-up, but dont forget he has got the worst technique in the first six batters.even Aswin is better.

  • theRule19 on August 16, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    Dhoni's performance as a captain and a wicket keeper are signs that his days as captain are over and if he wants to play..he can be a part of the team as fielder/batsman and not a wicket keeper. His keeping has gone down with each game and it is high time he is replaced with another keeper. His mindset as a test captain is just overly defensive and it does not convey a positive message for other players. India also needs to look beyond Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, R.Sharma who are just over-rated and can only perform in sub-continent. Binny is not an all-rounder so as Jadeja as both are part-timers. Bowling needs Aaron, Yadav, B.Kumar and another genuine pace bowler with Ashwin and another regular spinner.

  • on August 16, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    I feel many Indian players have taken their place in the team for granted.The way Kohli has performed in this series,it never looked like as if he was playing up to his potentials or that he was bothered to lose his berth in the team.Indians normally get complacent and casual when they are sure of and convinced of something.They ,normally ,dont realise their potentials and strenghts until they find themselves in "bothering"spot.Fear is the biggest motivating factor that drives most of the Indians,be in circket or any other walk of life.The element of fear and perception of f losing one's berth in the team is missing among most Indian batsment at present.Its high time that BCCI come forward with stringent measures to warn these players with "either act or quit".

  • on August 16, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    What India achieved with 10 wickets, England crossed with just one wicket.

  • ishaan1997 on August 16, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    People might not agree with this fact, but in my opinion rahane has the best technique to handle swing bowling and has looked the most comformtable. But the harsh reality is, that he has found ways to get out.He needs to resist his temptation to drive early on his innings, he is kind of player who once gets set, will certainly score big! In austrailia, i don't think they will struggle very much(i am still in doubt),since they are not that uncomfortable against pace and bounce

  • dee135 on August 16, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    Its really frustating watching this indian team playing and struggling...their openers and batsmen are vulnerable against swing bowling and the bowlers cant take 20 wickets to win a test match ....the results is far much clear bout this test is that india gonna lose by an innings and 200 runs....such a shame!! They should atleast learn from the indian women cricketers who just won a test in england by beating the womens team

  • Lion_Wallaby on August 16, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    India again scored a massive 150 runs in this series and England batsmen have easily wiped off that against this mediocre attack led by Sharma. What a pathetic performance and god save test cricket!!

  • FlatTrakBully on August 17, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    Team should move on. 3-1 is similar to 4-0 loss, but its better than England's record of 5-0 loss,. (Practicing county without IPL, BBL)

  • ladycricfan on August 16, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    The more we see Binny the more it becomes obvious that he is not a test class all rounder. He might be effective in ODIs. Jadeja should've played instead of Binny. For fast bowling all rounder the best contender is Rishi Dhawan.

    Cook was lucky to have so many lives. But the Batting looks easy at the moment. If India could restrict Eng under 300 And bat sensibly in the 3rd innings anything can happen. Fingers crossed.

  • CluelessJan on August 16, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    Its inevitable, a 3-1 series test loss to India. What is more disappointing is the way England have steam rolled the Indians. Its pathetic to watch.

  • Shibu1981 on August 16, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    This test is going to "ONE DIRECTION" from here- Innings victory for Enland , No miracles are expected from this Indian team & even "Rain Gods" are not going to save India from a defeat. Even the conditions were against them, 4th test Manchester India won the toss decided to bat but conditions were against and bowled out inside 50 overs, Second innings-rain gods were there to help India on the 4th & 5th Day but India decided to finish the game ASAP on the 3rd day & take rest on 4th & 5th day watching thunder raining.5th test lost the toss again conditions were against them & bowled out inside 150 runs...pathetic...this Indian team are not supposed to win....look who has played 100 balls per innings in 4th & 5th test ....only dhoni........I am not a MSD fan....but still he is the best batsman so far from this Indian side....One could say he is the most experienced player in the Indian line-up, but dont forget he has got the worst technique in the first six batters.even Aswin is better.

  • theRule19 on August 16, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    Dhoni's performance as a captain and a wicket keeper are signs that his days as captain are over and if he wants to play..he can be a part of the team as fielder/batsman and not a wicket keeper. His keeping has gone down with each game and it is high time he is replaced with another keeper. His mindset as a test captain is just overly defensive and it does not convey a positive message for other players. India also needs to look beyond Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli, R.Sharma who are just over-rated and can only perform in sub-continent. Binny is not an all-rounder so as Jadeja as both are part-timers. Bowling needs Aaron, Yadav, B.Kumar and another genuine pace bowler with Ashwin and another regular spinner.

  • on August 16, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    I feel many Indian players have taken their place in the team for granted.The way Kohli has performed in this series,it never looked like as if he was playing up to his potentials or that he was bothered to lose his berth in the team.Indians normally get complacent and casual when they are sure of and convinced of something.They ,normally ,dont realise their potentials and strenghts until they find themselves in "bothering"spot.Fear is the biggest motivating factor that drives most of the Indians,be in circket or any other walk of life.The element of fear and perception of f losing one's berth in the team is missing among most Indian batsment at present.Its high time that BCCI come forward with stringent measures to warn these players with "either act or quit".

  • on August 16, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    What India achieved with 10 wickets, England crossed with just one wicket.

  • ishaan1997 on August 16, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    People might not agree with this fact, but in my opinion rahane has the best technique to handle swing bowling and has looked the most comformtable. But the harsh reality is, that he has found ways to get out.He needs to resist his temptation to drive early on his innings, he is kind of player who once gets set, will certainly score big! In austrailia, i don't think they will struggle very much(i am still in doubt),since they are not that uncomfortable against pace and bounce

  • dee135 on August 16, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    Its really frustating watching this indian team playing and struggling...their openers and batsmen are vulnerable against swing bowling and the bowlers cant take 20 wickets to win a test match ....the results is far much clear bout this test is that india gonna lose by an innings and 200 runs....such a shame!! They should atleast learn from the indian women cricketers who just won a test in england by beating the womens team

  • Lion_Wallaby on August 16, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    India again scored a massive 150 runs in this series and England batsmen have easily wiped off that against this mediocre attack led by Sharma. What a pathetic performance and god save test cricket!!

  • on August 16, 2014, 11:57 GMT

    england is killing india like a tiger killing lamb .... no attack no fight no resistance .

  • on August 16, 2014, 11:57 GMT

    It seems long hard toiling and frustrating day ahead for Indian bowlers.But,I am afraid whethery they will be really motivated and energetic enuf to find themselves into the game,once England batsmen started picking them up all around the ground.Tough going for India.I wonder what could stop India from facing a humiliating and disgraceful defeat.Only Rain Gods could come in handy for India.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 16, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    Our women may not be multi-millionaires like our men but at least they are battling with grit & are going to handsomely win their only Test against England. Well done ladies & hope the BCCI rewards you for this very good win in England.

  • PeerieTrow on August 16, 2014, 11:09 GMT

    @Prabhakar Muthukrishnan: Agreed, Dhoni mostly gets "ugly" runs, they can be valuable as we have seen, and he can accumulate them quickly. However, it's just a shame for India he appears to have the influence (whatever that may be and however it may be applied) to keep him in place as captain, a role for which he is so clearly unsuited and unqualified.

  • on August 16, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    Dhoni's test average batting at no.6 is about 60. A below average test batsman will not have such an average. MSD has scored about the same no of runs as Ganguly or VVS at a similar stage in their career. This despite him batting lower down the order and not having the so called "technique". Right from the series against New Zealand, he has scored a 50 in every test match. Now, perhaps the only thing that we want from him is to grow horns on his head!!! Just charisma or hairstyle does not make one a sporting superstar. He has not become a sporting icon or for that matter the richest cricket in history just by chance. A lot of hard work and fine tuning has gone into his play. It may not appear pretty, but it is mighty effective.

  • PeerieTrow on August 16, 2014, 10:40 GMT

    @eggyroe: Your thinking that, "...when they [India] come to England perhaps they should like the old days arrive Mid April play all the counties and come to terms with English conditions" is spot on. That is the way test teams came to terms with the playing conditions, and county members such as myself supported their quest by attending county Vs visitors matches that were truly competitive. Unfortunately, your qualifying comment to the effect that, "...that is of course if they can drag themselves away from the IPL." is equally insightful. Test match cricket is the purest form of the game and, having watched it overcome other challenges it has faced over the years, I am confident it will survive the current finance driven world-wide schedules to remain as such. It will, however, be interesting to see exactly how that is achieved.

  • 5wombats on August 16, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    @glacier_143 (August 16, 2014, 8:37 GMT) - friend, I would say that the 2011 whitewash was worse for India than this showing in 2014. I was commenting extensively on cricinfo in 2011 and the shock disbelief and dismay of the India fans was palpable. At that time India had players such as Dravid (who batted like a true hero) and India came to England as Test number one side. On paper the 2011 Indians were a good side. But England had just returned from putting 3 innings defeats on Australia in Australia and were irresistible. In my opinion this is a pretty average England side now - its weakness is due to inexperience (not a lack of ability), a weakness that match practice will rectify. From the Indian perspective there is clearly disappointment - but this is really not a good Indian side either. I don't know how it is possible, but these Indian batsmen also have a weakness against the spin of Moeen Ali and lost Tests on dry flat pitches. The spin of Moeen has made a big difference.

  • justkiddin on August 16, 2014, 10:16 GMT

    This Indian Test team is a joke. First dump Dhoni from Test team. He is 100% unfit for Test cricket. I am saying this despite his knock of 82 yesterday.

    He is not suitable for Test cricket. The guy himself admits that his Test match technique is suspect. His captaincy is horrible.His keeping is average. His batting is below average in Test cricket.

    So the logic to persist with him is that there is no one else. Man, let us start from scratch. How bad can it get? India surely will score 150 even without Dhoni. India can still lose 5-0 many times. But that is okay.

  • eggyroe on August 16, 2014, 10:08 GMT

    Maybe the answer to India's woes is when they come to England,perhaps they should like the old days arrive Mid April play all the counties and come to terms with English conditions,that is of course if they can drag themselves away from the IPL.If they turn up just before the start of the Test Matches then they have to put up with the consequences of not having adapted to English Conditions.

  • on August 16, 2014, 10:08 GMT

    Dhoni has always let his play/batting do all the talking. On a lighter note, maybe the Indian team was trying to invent another format- a 2 day test. It would be entertaining, the purists would be satisfied and it would also mean no waste of time for the busy executives of today.

  • black_bird on August 16, 2014, 9:56 GMT

    Bring back ashok dinda. Who will add more venom at team indian bowling and batting.Remember, ganguly rated him as a upcoming legend.

  • ShanNachimuthu on August 16, 2014, 9:52 GMT

    England bowling might brought Indian top order down to its knees. Indian spearhead is not even on par with England's fourth seamer in pace and swing. Also a bucketfull of luck helped Cook men to rebound in this series. Had it not been half-an-hour madness on last day by England this series could not be much different from the previous 2011 4-0 white wash. As the most of this test team members will also take part in limited over series I fear that this trend will continue. Need to find genuine quicks and spinners. Also the slip catching is a matter of great concern. Need to have rethink on DRS as India is most sufferer because of not using technology. Indian selectors should seriously think about relieving MSD from test team. Keeping him there for whatever reasons would affect his performance in limited overs, which is not good while the WC is around the corner. After the Fab Four the Indian test side is in rebuilding phase and NOT to expect too much from this test team. Come On India!

  • AMMAR3438668158 on August 16, 2014, 9:37 GMT

    madhan raj i totally agree you we did not blame dhoni at all because he select the best team players but unfortunitly their batting line not click(top and middle order).kohli,pujara,vijay,rohit,ghambir and dhawan not perform as their batting abilities.and bowlng depart also not utilize conditons as broad and anderson bowl.

  • on August 16, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    @JG2704, do not assume things in cricket, cricket is the most complex and difficult game and there are so many factors involved in cricket game so you can never assume it is over until it is actually over. It might look like england is doing fine in this test with india allout 148 and england some 60+ no loss but the cricket game due to its complexity can change the direction anytime, i have been watching this game for several decades and i know that advantage can change hands in this game very fast. So I will not consider this is yet any advantage for england, for me to call as a team is in advantageous position the team should be placed in a much much better position than this. So I am still cautious in my statements and thinking, I do not want england to lose their advantage at any cost so. You know if england loses this test then all england can get is just a series draw, nothing more than that so england should try their bestest effort. Good lucks England!

  • prij on August 16, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    I think indian team lack the mindset of playing of 5 test series. they fought hard in any two test series overseas. they might have lost but they were not beaten like final two tests. I think India should start with three test and three odi overseas may be in Australia they can reduce it to that series. well thats just my point of view (hardcore indian fan) please publish

  • hnlns on August 16, 2014, 9:23 GMT

    What is most worrying is the pattern of dismissals keep repeating so many times like the slow motion replays - look at Kohli, Pujara and Rahane. They have exposed their weakness to English bowlers so well that Anderson, Broad and co don't even need to think. Just follow the set pattern and they will have the wicket after a few balls. This reminds me of the way Dravid and Lakshman got out repeatedly the same way against Aussies.

  • lucky666 on August 16, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    We all know Dhoni is not good with this format; still he's has shown some come back and get runs on the board, keep all techniques & decision & team selection out of this now...The question comes to when one is selected what is their mental sphere, just to blame of conditions, toss, and other factors when they will grow up stop saying sorry and give a fight. As I always said, we don't expect every match to win, but alteast show some character, what Indians have witnessed is throwing this games...if they blame poor umpiring I would say it's India's fault not to use DRS....that decision has killed them in this series...

  • GRVJPR on August 16, 2014, 9:05 GMT

    @ legfinedeep, if south african pitches are so flat, why to praise Ab Devillers. This means he is a flat track bully too.

  • legfinedeep on August 16, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    @indianSRTfan: if you don't think Joburg where Kohli the flat track bully scored his century was not a dead flat road, then I don't know what to say. Next time SA will prepare a literal featherbed and you will still proclaim it hard fast and bouncy.

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    The only heart India & their fans can take from this series is it is not a 5-0 white wash on foreign soil

  • _-Will-_ on August 16, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    @ myself on (August 16, 2014, 8:28 GMT): Kohli, not Kholi. Sorry about the typo.

  • cricfansince91 on August 16, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    There is a saying that "running to get water after putting your house on fire does not make you saviour!!!" the same is the case with Dhoni, this knock was not a fighting knock rather a case of someone becoming a rabbit in a race of tortoises.. Everything Dhoni has done on this tour has been wrong and had it not been for Ishant sharma finally getting his radar right at Lords India would well have been down 0-3. Even if batting is failing, Dhoni's persistence with Jadeja, wrong choices of bowlers at wrong times and mindless field placings have seen England recover in this series and his act of needlessly stretching Anderson issue should be ranked at per with Dean Jones' mindless act of enraging Ambrose in 1992-93 AUS-WI series which in remarkable similarity saw AUS defeated 1-2; after leading 1-0 in First three tests!!!!

  • glacier_143 on August 16, 2014, 8:37 GMT

    This series has to be worst than 4-0 routing last time India played here because the way Indian top order has collapsed in the same way. Can someone tell me if there is ego problem in Dhoni to play Sehwag, Harbhajan, Zaheer in overseas, I think the trio would have made the difference with the experience they have or probably shuffling the batting order would have helped with Rahane,Vijay, Dhawan, Dhoni, Pujara, Kohli, Ashvin as batting order for second innings to give something to think for English Attack.

  • ramli on August 16, 2014, 8:35 GMT

    I am not too sure how all predict that India will amass runs against WI ... when India can't find answers for Mooen Ali where is the guarantee that they will fire against Shillingford and Narine? I fear that WI are going to expose this Indian team even in India just like England did in 2012 ... mark my words

  • ramli on August 16, 2014, 8:33 GMT

    @Roshan_P ... at score 8/4, ball is not that old still MSD fights with all his limited technique ... the key is to fight and not lose heart ... something the top-order does not seem to possess ... a break for some of them will do good to the team

  • _-Will-_ on August 16, 2014, 8:28 GMT

    Just thought I'd chime in on the "Kholi is the next Tendulkar, Pujara the next Dravid" theme.

    * Just going by memory, so feel free to correct me.

    Please consider the following:

    Michael Clarke made 151 on debut against India, in India, in late 2004. He was immediately hailed as the 'next big thing' in Australian cricket, complete with comparisons to other great Australian batsmen. Pundits even ventured to suggest that he was captain material. By late 2005, Clarke was dropped for under-performing with the bat. He had to prove his worth in first class cricket (ODI form was considered, I believe, but not used as a primary determinant) before being accepted back into the test squad in early/mid 2006. Please note the duration of enforced absence. Clarke also courted controversy, experienced negative media coverage, before truly stabilising. The rest, as they say, is history.

    The moral of the story?

    For Kholi et al. there probably isn't one, because India does not operate this way...

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:19 GMT

    Woakes and Jordan may be useful bits-and-pieces cricketers at Countly level, but they are not up to Test standard.

  • AMMAR3438668158 on August 16, 2014, 8:19 GMT

    vitatis landsbergis i don't agree your comments.you say australia is better in their own grounds and same as ind and eng.you are wrong.ind and eng perform well in their own conditions but australia in not in this category.aus perform in all countries like eng,uae,ind nz and sa.only one series not decide that a team is very good or bad.australia is better in all conditons then other teams.only ind and eng perform well in their home conditons.this indian team is inexperience in english condition so their players did not bat well.

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:17 GMT

    yesthe batting hasfailed big time.But one thing that seperates both sides massively is the penetration in bowling as well as the control exhibited bythe english bowlers.Guys like bhuvi and sharma lack in terms of pace but also doesnt seem to have the elemnt of control(STRANGELY BHUVI AS WELL).

  • JG2704 on August 16, 2014, 8:17 GMT

    Could have been even better for Eng had Bell - who is usually a solid cxatches - not shelled a standard chance. Buttler is defying the critics of his selection as a keeper.

    Well played MSD

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:16 GMT

    We should think about the solution for the future. #Indian players must play domestic cricket on fast and bouncy pitches. Atleast provide a couple of such pitches for each Zone. #Foreign coaches have coached foreign teams successfully. But it does not mean they will be able to coach Indian Team to successfully tackle their weakness against pace. Why not take the help of former India players who have successfully tackled hostile pace attack. Sunil Gavaskar as an opener has scored runs against fast bowlers of all countries. #Our bowlers are not able to take wickets in foreign soil. I can say Kapil Dev has performed well as a fast bowler.Why not take his help for our teams? #At least for our upcoming young players like Sanju Samson and others, give them enough exposure to pace,bounce,seam and swing movement. #Use MRF Pace Foundation more effectively with fast pitches. #Have a Standing Advisory Committee with former India Players like Tendulkar,Dravid,Kumble,Zaheer Khan to advise BCCI.

  • ramli on August 16, 2014, 8:15 GMT

    @MadhanRaj ... blaming Dhoni has become a fashion and passtime for all, especially India fans .... appreciation is not their forte, even when he shows grit and scores runs ... when India batting fails, they will complain why so-and-so was not picked ... when so-called players also fail, they will say the batting order was not correct ... same thing with bowlers ... same thing with the toss ... if anything fails, it is due to Dhoni ... it is as simple as that

  • JG2704 on August 16, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    @Lin Comp on (August 16, 2014, 6:48 GMT) Not sure what games you've been watching but all the way through you've been on England's back. Fair enough when the series was level or when India were getting the upper hand but you're still doing it now. Should you not be giving some words of encouragement for India under these circumstances?

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:09 GMT

    India is not good enough to play abroad where pace bowlers get some support from pitch. England do not have best bowlers and still manage quite easily to bowl India cheaply which also indicate this India team even not capable to play and compete longer series

  • Abaa on August 16, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    @ thozar: More false claims by you I see ... Here is an excerpt from a recent cricinfo stats article:

    Excluding Bangladesh/Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka's seven overseas wins have come in 57 Tests, which makes their win percentage 12.3%. India and Pakistan, the other subcontinental giants, have win percentages of 12.4% (22 wins in 177 Tests) and 21.4% (31 wins in 145 Tests) respectively in these conditions. The overall records of India and Sri Lanka, in terms of win percentages, are now quite similar.

    How on earth can you criticise Pakistan's or Sri Lanka's record ????? Of course Sri Lanka hasn't won as much but that is because they have not got as many opportunities as India has !!!!! Pakistan is the true Asian giant when it comes to overseas test victories with India and Sri Lanka having equally weaker records. Enough with your ridiculous claims! Get back to watching your team get embarrassed by the very team Sri Lanka beat and Pakistan trounced a couple of years ago

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    India can't play well in other county. they can play well only own ground.

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    This is absolute ridiculous batting show by the indians...bowlers alone cant win the game..its batsmen and fielders need to contribute...

  • ramli on August 16, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    @hnlns ... if India is to win, then Eng has to play as badly as India ... that is what Lord's win showed ... and it should only be a 2-test series hereafter???

  • on August 16, 2014, 8:03 GMT

    really i seen so many matches India can't playing well in others county. they can play well only own ground.

  • HatsforBats on August 16, 2014, 8:02 GMT

    Normal service has been resumed it seems; India are crumbling away from home and England give a master class on how to bowl in green conditions. One thing that does surprise me from this report is the Anderson-Cook record, given how average a slipper Cook is.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 16, 2014, 7:33 GMT

    The only solace we Indian fans can take from this five match test series is that the scoreline does not read 5-0, 4-0, 3-0. Most likely it will read 3-1, which is better than 4-0 in 2011, and 3-0 which Aussies suffered in 2013 Ashes played in England. The positives coming out of this series are batting performances of Dhoni, Vijay and Rahane to a certain extent, and bowling of Bhuvi and Ishant. Ashwin should now be seen as a batsman who can bowl, and should be selected as such. He can be a deadly bowler in India, but really not on green pitches abroad. Bhuvi can also be seen as a bowler who can bat. Selectors should be ruthless with the rest, and, if they are given more chances then it should be based on sound reasons. As someone else also said, let us not make a Tendulkar out of Kohli, and treat him as undroppable. During SRTs time, only SRTs place was certain in the team, and rest of the team was selected around him. If we do that with Kohli, we will sink lower than BD in rankings.

  • hnlns on August 16, 2014, 7:26 GMT

    If England manage to reach 350 by end of 2nd day, this will turn out to be another 3-day test match. It is increasingly looking like the Lord's win was a fluke or flash in the pan.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 16, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    @AndyDee you say that India has never defeated any nation in a test series when played away (i.e. outside of India). That is not true. India has had several away test victories but not as much as Indian fans would like. Here is what I remember as far as away victories are concerned: England in England in 1971, 1986, 2007. WI in WI: 1971, 2006, 2011. Pak in Pak: 2004. NZ in NZ in 1960s and then in 2009 under Dhoni's captaincy. India has never defeated Aus in Aus, and SA in SA in a test series. But then no other team from Asia has done that either. But, what I worry more than the performance of India test team, is the lack of interest displayed by Indian audience towards test cricket even when India is winning. For example, last year (2013) when India defeated Australia in India 4-0 in a test series, the games were virtually played in empty stadia. Even in this present test series against England, the number of advertisements on TV is much smaller compared to say an ODI/T20/IPL series.

  • Solid_Snake on August 16, 2014, 7:17 GMT

    @Ashok Niroula :My dear friend.Don't know what dream you are living into.But if i remember correctly.Last Eng thrashed India in India not long ago.Won the test series.Remember Monty Panesar?Indian batsmen could not handle that bowler.lol..If India wants to get rid of this losing habit,they need to stop playing with bugger teams.Playing with Bangladesh,Zimbabwe,kenya would surely improve the confidence of Pujara,Rahane & Kohli 'the great' :P

  • legfinedeep on August 16, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    @gbz22: even if your gross misrepresentations (lies) about India domination South Africa in 12 out of 15 sessions were true (they are not), it still does not matter since there are no prizes for who wins the most sessions or days. Only for who wins the match. By your (faulty) logic, South Africa must have won many World Cups because they dominate many one day games, who cares if they don't win the crucial knockout matches.

  • Chris_P on August 16, 2014, 7:07 GMT

    @IndianSRTfan. I watched the J'burg test and that pitch was a dead set road. Even South African fans said it was a road so I am not sure what game you saw. Kholi scored his runs there, a pitch that didn't aid bowlers.

  • on August 16, 2014, 7:07 GMT

    It's inexcusable for India to be getting out to bowlers like Woakes and Jordan who aren't even England's front line bowlers. All credit to them though for getting the wickets, but they are not super quick and unless they are bowling some tearaway swing deliveries, India are surely good enough to not get out easily to those bowlers.

  • Sinhabahu on August 16, 2014, 7:02 GMT

    @Ashok Niroula, England recently toured India and won the Test series 2-1.

  • 200ondebut on August 16, 2014, 6:59 GMT

    Great performance by Eng. If Bell had taken the chance from Sharma Eng would be ahead already. Nice to see that after the debacle of the SL series and the Trent Bridge test that the groundsmen have started producing wickets to suit the home side.

  • legfinedeep on August 16, 2014, 6:56 GMT

    @IndianSRTFan - I fear you, and the Indian selectors and fans have already turned Kohli in the newest incarnation in Tendulkar, hence he is undroppable. I suspect even if he fails dismally in another ten innings, he will be immune from being dropped. He was not a great test player to begin with, and he still hasn't proven that he can compete with greatness at Test level. Could Sehwag really have done worse than Kohli, or anyone in the Indian top order?

  • on August 16, 2014, 6:56 GMT

    very well played and overall good performance from the Indian team, after all their hardwork, we could see the result. Dhoni's motive and mgmt's way of selecting playing 11 is really awesome. Either Indian board can request the England board to make a flat pitch and not favourable for fast bowlers, so that we make ourselves fit. If they could swing the ball well why our bowlers cannt able to do that, where are we lagging. Simply blaming the pitch, weather conditions is not worthy, if that is a case why do we travel outside Asia. Why there is no change in the batting order, why should not we promote Kumar and Ashwin ahead of all and in the top 5, very responsible innings from top 5, we are saying we are not giving a chance to Gambhir, but what is achieved by giving a chance nothing. Dhawan is much better than him, though he is not scoring runs atleast he can withstand the attack and stay in the crease for first 10 overs. so we can expect the match to be over by the end of third day,

  • on August 16, 2014, 6:55 GMT

    Send England to India, lets see who is bad team now

  • on August 16, 2014, 6:48 GMT

    England cannot take it easy, wickets will fall in this innings because this is a bowler friendly pitch so england need to know that wickets will keep falling so they need to put their bestest effort and make sure that they do not go for loose shots as much as possible. And try to play a grinding type innings rather than an aggressive type one and try to first cross the 148 total and start getting lead and try to play as long as possible in the first innings. Any number of runs is not enough in the game of cricket because we never know what will happen in the next innings so try to play as carefully as possible and try to avoid losing wickets easily. Once again wickets will fall there is no way that can be avoided in this type of bowling friendly pitches but play responsibly and seriously. At least a draw is needed for england in this test to win this series, if england can win it is a bonus. Put your bestest effort, Good lucks England!

  • AndyDee on August 16, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    If India is not a bad team then they are certainly nothing to write home about. Australia is not only good in Australian conditions, they win almost every time in South Africa, in fact they are yet to lose a test series there since SA's return. They have won countless series in England and regularly win in Sri Lanka, NZ, WI and Pak when they play them away. England and SA also have won many series away. India on the other hand, I can't ever recall them beating anyone away in a test series. When India go to Aus, SA or Eng they get clobbered all the time. Heaven forbid when they come to Australia this summer, they will get slaughtered.

  • on August 16, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    If this match finishes in 3 days time, I would love to see an exhibition match between Indian men team vs Indian women team. Obviously my money would be on Indian women team.

  • dunger.bob on August 16, 2014, 6:22 GMT

    @LivingDead: I can see where you're coming from, I really think I can, so I guess we'll see India at World Cups and the like, but not for Test tours in the near future. There will probably be a few ODI and T20I exchanges but basically you'll go your way and we'll go ours.

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 16, 2014, 6:19 GMT

    I am really perplexed by the way the England players handle the ball.I don't know what they are doing with the ball but they are able to get conventional swing consistently for 40-50 overs.I don't know if it is due to the conditions but Allan Wilkins said that England worship the ball like a god.They protect the ball like a gem or a currency and when you respect the ball it will listen to you and make wonders for you.England players like Cook,Bell,Anderson mastered the art of how to protect the ball to get the maximum out of it.

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 16, 2014, 6:18 GMT

    We should write some poem to praise our captain courageous M.S. Dhoni. Besides showing solid technique, he took so many body blows. Reminds me of Sanjay Bangar and Rahul Dravid in Leeds in 2002. If only our 'fashion model batsmen' like Kohli had shown half as much courage and determination as Dhoni, this would have been a different story. Never mind, this series is lost, and we should look ahead. I hope that our team will do better in the ODI series, and also hope that for the upcoming home series against WI, selectors will give chance to a new set of youngsters like Manoj Tiwary, Baba Aparajit etc. so as to get some more batting options for the Aussie tour. Otherwise, these guys will make merry against hapless Windies team in home conditions, and then fail again against Aussies. I repeat that this game is lost (unless some miracle or rain happens), but I am happy with Dhoni's performance. A warrior standing tall amidst a crowd of timid soldiers.

  • IndianSRTfan on August 16, 2014, 6:17 GMT

    Posted by legfinedeep on (August 16, 2014, 5:39 GMT) "Why is India so afraid to get rid of Kohli? The last time he scored was on the flat dead made-to-order subcontinental track in South Africa" Clearly you didn't watch the Jo'burg match did you? That track was anything but flat and dead. Scoring runs against the number 1 team in the world, who have the best fast bowler of this generation, in their backyard, is the reason why India don't drop Kohli. He has hit a bad patch like everyone and he'll get out of it soon, that's all.

  • John.cric.lover on August 16, 2014, 6:12 GMT

    Exciting to see cricket played on such pitches... This is what cricket needs, a perfect balance between bat and ball... These type of pitches will make better batsmen.... One things for sure, Kohli and Pujara will leave England with doubts... But the answers for those doubts will make them better batsmen...

  • on August 16, 2014, 6:03 GMT

    I like all the Indian fans that criticized our approach on a tough deck against Zimbabwe, yet luck themselves to 100 at a measly 2rpo, they are just lucky they never got a deck like that out here with Steyn and Philander, would have been bowled out for 30. India don't have a settled unit, new seamers every series, spinners that are not effective anywhere outside of mumbai and a flimsy batting line up that can only cope with lifeless pitches. Add that up and you get the sum of a losing team. I'd start praying that Mitchell Johnson flops again by the time your series in Australia arrives, that will be embarrassing if not.

  • jjradha on August 16, 2014, 5:59 GMT

    @Pady Srini What Rohith as captain for 5 to 7 years? He had enough chances as batsman. If you give him captaincy it gives an excuse for non performance. 5 to 7 years is he a Mike Brarly

  • on August 16, 2014, 5:50 GMT

    Now India is a very bad team. India have been playing in England in English conditions.

    When Australia lose to India in India, do they (Australia) become a bad team?

    India great in Indian condtions and Eng in English condtions and Aus in Aus conditions. So none them are really bad. They do badly 'coz they are in foreign conditions.

  • on August 16, 2014, 5:46 GMT

    Now India is a very bad team. India have been playing in England in English conditions.

    When Australia lose to India in India, do they (Australia) become a bad team?

    India great in Indian condtions and Eng in English condtions and Aus in Aus conditions. So none them are really bad. They do badly 'coz they are in foreign conditions.

  • IndianSRTfan on August 16, 2014, 5:45 GMT

    @jb633: Refreshing to see some balanced comments. As usual, they will be wasted in a torrent of posturing and trash talking not only from one eyed fans of both sides but even more so from some overexcited SL, PAK and few Aussie fans.

    England have played brilliantly though. The turnaround has been amazing and England have played their cards perfectly. India have been outthought as much as, if not more, they have been outperformed in last two Tests.

    Still as they say, it'll be fair to say that England have a great team only after they perform in overseas and vastly different conditions. Apart from SA, don't really see any team capable of winning in all conditions.

  • legfinedeep on August 16, 2014, 5:39 GMT

    Why is India so afraid to get rid of Kohli? The last time he scored was on the flat dead made-to-order subcontinental track in South Africa. There is no doubt that he is an excellent ODI/IPL/T20/any hit and giggle variety, but that should not obscure the fact that he is NOT a test caliber player. If the Indian team stops carrying its dead weight around all the time then we all can actually watch and enjoy some exciting cricket, watching this one-sided contest is boring unless you are an English fan.

  • Billygilly on August 16, 2014, 5:36 GMT

    This was about to happen and if you are surprised now then I was surprised when India won at loards even that was due to some stupid batting by england batsmen who were in shock after their poor performances against Aus and Srilanka.If you analyse techniques of batsmen like Kholi, Dhavan, Ghanmbir and their attitude like after getting an hundred thumping the air jumping up an down it is as if they don't believe they got a hundred. I believe still Pujara, Vijay and Rahane shall be persisted not on form but their attitudes are far better and drop Kholi, Dhawan , Gambir, bits and piece players like Binny and Jadeja (may be in india ok ) go for 5 bat + 5 bow strategy until there is a real all rounder. Technique dosent mean just batting technique it is also approach they should learn from Dhoni what a heart the guy got. He is in a similar situation that Sachin was in early 90's to early 2000..he is the lonely warrior hats off to him!!!

  • Sinhabahu on August 16, 2014, 5:35 GMT

    I don't find this surprising. India isn't used to playing 5-match Test series and I expected them to start tiring by the 3rd Test. They need a long break before they go to Australia, where Mitchell Johnson must be licking his chops at the prospect.

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 16, 2014, 5:35 GMT

    indian batsmen need to play county and first-class cricket i dont know english county teams are satsfying with this type of performance they may reject all of them except rahane lords test win was due to english batmen ego shots none of the deliveries are wicket taking balls all are short balls

  • on August 16, 2014, 5:32 GMT

    I am surprised to see some of them are blaming Dhoni for failure. Blame our top order batsmen. In fact Dhoni is batting with maturity. But there is no enough support from top or middle order either. Also please don't blame Dhoni for being defensive captain. How can a captain attack with this kind of batting order. Dhawan, Puraja, Kohli and Rohit Sharma were complete failure. Just one more innings left for them in this series. If somebody stand up and give miraculous performance, then only India can save this series. Otherwise, its simple. In 2011 series it was 0-4, now in 2014 it is going to be 3-1. May be next time we can expect for 2-2. And the worst part, India is touring down under this year end. A Ghost is waiting there.

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 16, 2014, 5:27 GMT

    even batsmen fail the responsibility will be going to dhoni if we loss becoz in selection process dhoni involved. his selection proves always wrong for example why kedhar jadav rejected for odi when selection team consult dhoni before selection becoz jadav also a keeper. after batting collapse why cant he give chance to in form naman ojha instead of binny

  • on August 16, 2014, 5:26 GMT

    Dhoni actually is the only apart from Rahane and Vijay that actually deserves to be picked based on his batting only .You can change the captain and even kerper but Dhoni should still deserve the nod as batsman ahead of kohli pujara binny .Ishant again showed a lot of heart by batting more balls than every one but Vijay and dhoni .Judging by figures his bowling was not bad at all but if he aaron and bhuvi can get eng out under 250 only then f do Ind stand a chance to even draw the test .Important day coming up but England have the game in their kitty .

  • Realistic_cri_fan on August 16, 2014, 5:22 GMT

    I totally accept the failure of the Indian batsmen.They were out not by playing bad shots but by some excellent bowling.Anderson and Broad are at their top of the game right now.They are well supported by the other seamers.So no Indian batsman (including India A players) would have survived in this type of pitch with cloudy conditions.The ball was swinging even after 60 overs.It's really hard for the sub-continent players to be there.So all you have to do is learn from the mistakes and try to play confidently in the ODI series.This match and series is lost so no point in moaning about this.

  • on August 16, 2014, 5:15 GMT

    I remember when Dhoni started his Test captaincy in 2008 for close to 2 years he was the Indian captain with longest streak of matches without a loss. Now he is the captain with longest streak of matches without a win. So his process has undermined him. He can no longer blame seniors or up coming players. Just accept the fact his team is not productive including his captaincy.

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 16, 2014, 5:12 GMT

    when we lost all are starting to blame coach, when we win all are praising capt what a shame after 2011wc no one recognized kirsten hard work our indians forgot himand praise dhoni and allow him to go home after we test no.1 no one recognize kirsten but now we are blaming fletcher what rubbish are doing our indian. OUR INDIANS DONT HAVE RIGHTS TO BLAME COACH BECOZ OUR PLAYERS AND FANS DONT HAVE MIN AND BASICS OF TEST CRICKET AND PITCHES

  • on August 16, 2014, 5:03 GMT

    This was expected. When ur team selection is such. I can't understand how could binny even make into the squad forget about playing 11.U hav a good batsman like Rohit nd u still want him in the bench even if ur batting is failing!!!!

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 16, 2014, 4:56 GMT

    even 100 tests capt smith and rickey dont have this many no.of losses outside their country pity for dhoni, still he is stays as capt if he has soul he immediately resign and flecher also i think flecher gets pressure from dhoni's decisions and also without kirsten our capt cant do anything see SA batsmen recently spin played very well they are also in same position to rebuild their team after smith,kallis without kirsten inda cant do

  • krishna_cricketfan on August 16, 2014, 4:50 GMT

    @@ LALITHKURUWITA: What is the need for this comparison? Sanga has been playing for the last 15 years. Also, one or 2 batsman alone cannot take any of the team to a win.

  • on August 16, 2014, 4:47 GMT

    Please cant we change rules here by giving 5 innings to India and give only 1 for England in this match. Then we have something to watch.

  • Test_Match_Fan on August 16, 2014, 4:46 GMT

    Since 1st test I have posted Kohli needs to be relieved. He is a 20/20 entertainment pony not fit for test cricket. Until he is shown the door nothing will change. Why is anyone surprised? This 20/20 entertainment pony need to leave test cricket for the real men. India deserves to lose until they get rid of Kohli and rattle the status quo

  • on August 16, 2014, 4:42 GMT

    Before this series Indian runs per an innings as they were dreaming = 500 >

    at the end of the 1st innings in 5th match avg is just over 100. so ICC can change rules .. give 5 innings to India and give only 1 for England. Then we have something to watch

  • titus_p on August 16, 2014, 4:40 GMT

    Our A Team that went to Australia is much better than this team. They would have scored atleast 75 to 100 runs more than this team. Why do selectors reward players on their domestic performance and select players on past reputation when it comes to Indian senior team. Atleast our women team is fighting it out with England so some cheer on independence day!!!. Selectors should select players purely on the latest performance or the current form of players. This is really bad, third time we being out so cheaply. It seems our top-order has forgotten batting. shame india.

  • on August 16, 2014, 4:35 GMT

    All these problems would have disappeared if Rohit was made captain and opening with Dhawan. Rohit is pure class. He is the only one who can take his IPL experience and make it work in England. Also he is proving himself to be a real good spinner. So India has a potential captain/allrounder for the future. Forget Ashwin. Groom Rohit. He needs a lot of chances and we have to persist - like we have done the past 5-7 years.

  • mamboman on August 16, 2014, 4:29 GMT

    India are going to be annihilated in Australia - worse than they were last time.

  • LALITHKURUWITA on August 16, 2014, 4:28 GMT

    Non of Indian current batsman can be put into Sanga's category from Sub continent when it comes to paying overseas.

  • Ilyasturi on August 16, 2014, 4:15 GMT

    there is no difference in current batting line of India and Pakistan, as in both teams on Captains are performing. Will not be wrong that current batting line of Pakistan is better than India. Why Ghambir is still in team, why Kholi, both should be replaced by R.Sharma and Karthik. Team is not performing and ppl will say its MS fault.

  • jjradha on August 16, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    There was a discussion about the captaincy here. What are we going to do about the remaining ten walkers. they are all waiting for someone to come bowl and get them out. What can a captain do with 8 non performers. The same happened to Cook until the second test. He was criticized Now he is been praised for everything he does, including Root sporting a helmet and standing so close at slips. That's power of performance. Remember MSD was consulted by management firms for his ideas. Let Rohith, Pujaraa, Kohily, Gambhir, Rahane why even Binny think about performing and then think about captaincy. In England the ball swings and local teams knowledge about the ground wind direction , pitch condition and practiced their cricket accordingly. That creates pressure on visiting team practice matches are very essential. Let the guys said above overcome the pressure and stress, then we can consider them to handle the pressure of captaincy

  • Rajesh.Kumar on August 16, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    These are those kinds of pitches where you win the toss and win the match in 90% of the cases if you decide to bowl first. At Old Trafford if Dhoni had decided to field after winning the toss, India would have won the match. In this match, if India had won the toss, India would have fielded first, and England would have been in the same situation in which India are now. The only exceptions to this were India's win in Lords in the second test, and India's win in Headingly in 2002, when Sourav Ganguly won the toss and decided to bat first. They lost Sehwag early but Rahul Dravid and Sanjay Bangar somehow toughed it out and then India went out to pile 600 plus runs and won by an innings. If India had batters with the technique of Dravid or guts of Bangar, then they could have survived the first day. So Dhoni haters, please stop blaming our courageous captain, who stands tall amongst the ruins. It is the rest of the team which has let him down. What he needs really is a new team!!!

  • Maduka43 on August 16, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Well said this. Some Indians fans must read this!!

    "Some" Indian fans are really funny. They come and ridicule other teams like Pak, SL SA, ENG (sp SL & PAK) - when they are performing bad & even extremely well. But when India is failing they scold other team fans to mind their own teams! If they have been nice to others & decent enough to appreciate other teams & players (rather than being big headed) when they perform well, no body will come here & ridicule u guys. So learn to be decent then u will ( & ur players) receive the same respect from other fans.& no body is superior to others. Everybody at some point will fail but will rise again. So be decent enough to appreciate others talent as well. So no body will ridicule ur players when there are some rough times like this."

  • cric_gates on August 16, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    In those 19 overs Indians bowlers never looked like taking wickets.Even umpires are not in their favor to raise finger( cook was plumbed to Bhuvi, any good umpire would give out 10/10,not using DRS is definitely working against India, out of form Bell was plumbed by Pankaj Singh on 0 in Southhampton test went on to make 165, Cook will make century at least. India will loose this test quite easily because they look pathetic not even fighting.

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    The message is very clear. This team is not competent to play in overseas conditions. No idea if the current coach is competent either! The team needs a complete revamp - none in the line up can claim to be the successors to players like Dravid and Laxman. An India A team would have done much better and also would have benefited from the exposure - at least we would have been spared the embarrassment!

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    This test India will lose by an innings. No improvement, no changes in batting order, same old stuff in middle while fielding, body language of Indian players shows, they are doing their duties only. catching, fielding and poor captaincy. Selectors wake up.... bring that India A team which toured Australia and provide them chance to play test cricket.!!

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    I think best to do India play 2 innings and England play ONLY 1 innings and this way we may can good game. This Indian team sooooo bad and I cannot understands how its possible they are given 5 test and only 2 test to Sri Lanka.

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:52 GMT

    am loving it...!!!!for all those people who were expecting not centuries but, double,triple centuries from kohli & co when eng lost to srilanka just before the start of the series,yet again the batting line up has shown that it only consisit of flat track pundits....!!!india is the most overrated,highest paid bating line but certainly not the strongest....!!!!!

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:50 GMT

    What a horrible show by the Indians! They deserved to be dumped on more humiliation. They have no work ethic and desire for putting in hard work. One would think, after the humiliating defeats in the last two tests, they would head straight to practice field and put in the work to correct their mistakes. But no. They decide to goof off and sight-see with the captain taking long break.

    They have no stomach for hard work and competitive fighting quality under duress and fire in the belly.

    Then there is the selection of Gautam Gambhir who never had any footwork, reflex or technique to handle top class fast/swing bowling. What was Dhoni and the selectors thinking? If we are to lose as we have been doing, I would rather do it with youngsters.

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:28 GMT

    Without Sehwag India can't put pressures in the England bowling lineup. If he was there, will play some positive shots in very first overs. Pressures will back to Anderson, broad. Actually English bowlers are laughing that India don't have any positive player in the team. Indian selectors must have to call Sehwag in the next series in Australia. They should check him as well as vs WI series.

  • _-Will-_ on August 16, 2014, 3:26 GMT

    * Correction - I posted on August 15, 2014, 23:44 GMT that I stopped watching after Trent Bridge. An error on my behalf. I meant to write Old Trafford. I did watch as much as I could prior to the fourth match. Time I will never get back...

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:24 GMT

    Indian batsmen instead of scoring runs are only trying to leave ball outside offstump their negative approach has paid dearly. Here comes the role of a coach, where fletcher has failed miserably.i think he should be removed immediately.

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:23 GMT

    Hat off to this by Nal Cooltng .. very well said :D

    "Some" Indian fans are really funny. They come and ridicule other teams like Pak, SL SA, ENG (sp SL & PAK) - when they are performing bad & even extremely well. But when India is failing they scold other team fans to mind their own teams! If they have been nice to others & decent enough to appreciate other teams & players (rather than being big headed) when they perform well, no body will come here & ridicule u guys. So learn to be decent then u will ( & ur players) receive the same respect from other fans.& no body is superior to others. Everybody at some point will fail but will rise again. So be decent enough to appreciate others talent as well. So no body will ridicule ur players when there are some rough times like this."

  • on August 16, 2014, 3:22 GMT

    Doni too was out much earlier but the catch was strangely not claimed. Doni had nicked a ball, the noise was heard by commentators and even the snickometer clearly showed there was a bat and ball contact but buttler did not claim the catch and even the bowler or slip fielders too did not appeal. If that catch was appealed umpire definitely would have given doni out and in that case india would have been all out around 90 to 100 total. Also the england bowlers persistently bowling short pitch and wide deliveries to doni and because of this he could hit so many runs through boundaries, all they had to was to bowl relatively good length and ask him to drive, if they bowl so many short pitch and wide deliveries then why to keep so many slip fielders? england did overall well but certainly they let doni off the hook by bowling such bad line and length to him and escape with so many runs.

  • vishwa1111 on August 16, 2014, 2:53 GMT

    This match is gone already for india...So keep calm and now support pakistan my dear indians

  • jmcilhinney on August 16, 2014, 2:52 GMT

    I'm pleased that England stuck with the same bowling line-up. They obviously believe that Jordan and Woakes have the potential to be successful Test cricketers, as do I, so it makes sense to stick with them when the team can afford to carry them to a degree. The fact that they were shown confidence will have boosted their confidence and they produced on the day. Jordan has been the less consistent of the two but he looks dangerous when he gets it right. Woakes has been more consistent, although more so at Southhampton than since, and was probably unlucky not to have taken more wickets. I'm sure that we'll still see the likes of Finn, Stokes and Plunkett in the team at times in the future but their success here can only help Jordan and Woakes serve England better in future.

  • on August 16, 2014, 2:50 GMT

    Where is NAMAN OJHA ? I Think he can score more runs then GAMBHIR, KOHLI & PUJARA aggregated in last 3 innings. Why you select these players when you can't include them in playing XI. worst decision of playing PUJARA & KOHLI who are making same mistake repeatedly and giving their wicket as a gift to opposition.

  • landl47 on August 16, 2014, 2:41 GMT

    Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but among the distraught Indian fans, the Sri Lankans gloating that they are better than India and the neutrals saying that both teams will lose to Australia and South Africa, there are very few comments saying that England actually played pretty darned well.

    Putting India in was a brave move by Cook after the unsuccessful insertion at Lord's, and the bowling and fielding was generally of a high standard. It was especially pleasing to see Woakes and Jordan, playing their 4th and 5th test respectively, taking 3 wickets each and keeping the pressure on after Anderson and Broad had made the initial breakthrough.

    At the end of the day Robson and Cook, not without some luck, got England off to a good start. Not a perfect day for England, but another good performance to follow up the progress made through the Summer.

  • on August 16, 2014, 2:41 GMT

    Indian deserves this. They do not know what they are doing. over confidence from fiest win has gotten into their head. because they aee good at t20 they think they can beat anyone in the world. Mr Dhoni needs to come in as opener with Ashwin and show how to play. so called best players on the top are only godd in their own back yard. street players can do better than this Team India should sent back to learn basics.

  • jmcilhinney on August 16, 2014, 2:27 GMT

    Apart from Trent Bridge, the pitches have been pretty good for this series. They've offered some assistance early for the quicks but that's really as it should be. Based on the colour, Lords looked like it would provide far more help than it did, although England's bowlers did waste a lot of what's on offer. This one may be offering a bit too much, although the recent weather would have made preparation difficult. With India's batsmen already out of form, dealing with significant swing AND seam was always going to end in tears. India were lucky to even make it to 100 but credit to Dhoni - he made the most of his good luck, just as several England batsmen had previously done but other India batsmen had not. If the sun comes out on day 2, as the forecast suggests, batting should get considerably easier and India may be in for more pain and another 3-day finish may not be out of the question.

  • vish2020 on August 16, 2014, 2:25 GMT

    Indians who were asking for sachin to retire early because they thought he was holding spot for too many talented players, please STAND UP!! i want to point at you and laugh my you know what off! sachin was not being selfish. he retired from ODI and T20 long time ago. He was staying in tests because he knew how empty the cupboard was once he left. It's a lesson for you guys! When you see a legend, admire! don't wait for next because you can see, next could be loooooongggg time after...

  • Rabat_Seamer on August 16, 2014, 1:56 GMT

    At this rate,ICC should make new rules and make a Test match of 3 days instead of 5(only for Indians) to make it more interesting ;) ....Jokes apart,this has been a surprising series for many as we all see how many batting flaws Indian batsmans harbor and how gifted Anderson is with his right-on-the-spot-that-will-swing-and-pick-a-nick bowling.Its an eye-opener for both teams;India should dig a bit hard to find where its batsman failed to deliver and England should really come out of the shell with amazing players like Cook,Root,Ali,Anderson,Bell to declare itself as one of the competitive team playing in the pitch these days..who's next to be gunned down??

  • 22many on August 16, 2014, 1:54 GMT

    second tier is where this team belongs...

  • on August 16, 2014, 1:53 GMT

    let me congratulate all the Indians here on yet another stunning performance. GREETINGS from Sri Lanka.

  • denmore on August 16, 2014, 1:52 GMT

    The "THINK TANK" of Indian cricket should perhaps consider sending the Indian Womens Cricket team instead of the so called MEN who cant even put up a fight!!! I firmly believe that the Women would have won us this series against the English Mens Cricket team.

  • on August 16, 2014, 1:47 GMT

    That's why Sehwag is needed in team.. Sehwag can make a win in this situation on his own

  • thozar on August 16, 2014, 1:38 GMT

    I am surprised how Broad is playing. Maybe it was not a bad injury. It looked really bad. Looks like England really want to win this test desperately. So they are picking injured players also. Indians are usually gentle and are not targetting Broad because they think it is soft target. This is where India should be ruthless. Since England have picked him, he must be fit. So India should not go soft on opposition players. When Broad bats tomorrow we should get Aaron and Ishant to pepper him with bouncers.

  • on August 16, 2014, 1:36 GMT

    Dohni is still the best capt sometimes players dont perform & the capt cannot be blamed.dont forget the glory the last few years. Keep going dohni.when you have had enough stop playing.

  • crzcric on August 16, 2014, 1:32 GMT

    India the number one team in the wolrd in every format.some thing wrong in the pitch.i'm sure dhoni will explain later

  • CodandChips on August 16, 2014, 1:22 GMT

    Great stuff England. The pretty much perfect first day of a test, bowling out the opposition then scoring a few runs without loss at close. Reminds me of Melbourne 2010, though that was even better.

    Good to see Woakes and Jordan pick up wickets..I'd have liked Stokes to get a game, since I thought he was our best bowler at Lord's, but I suppose it's nice to see faith shown in these 2 young bowlers. And once again Broad and Anderson showed their class in these conditions.

    Dhoni has batted well this series. Despite his captaincy issues. Despite his keeping issues. Despite the off-field nonsense. Despite his technical issues with the bat. He is leading a sinking ship but is fighting bloody hard with the bat to try and keep India afloat. And he's batted well bar a couple of irresponsible moments.

    Quite the turnaround this series. How important was that Jadeja drop of Cook? Who knows?

    Good to see England playing well. Do feel a bit sorry for India.

  • on August 16, 2014, 1:21 GMT

    home champs back on business ! best batsman's, best bowlers , best fans ....lol :D

  • _-Will-_ on August 16, 2014, 1:11 GMT

    @ AltafPatel on (August 15, 2014, 19:15 GMT): Apart from his 225 vs Australia in India, I have to agree. The problem is these fighting innings trigger gushing emotions, which in turn clouds judgement. Easy, then, to overlook tactics, fielding positions, bowling changes etc.

    It probably seems harsh, criticising Dhoni under these circumstances, but let's not forget, there was a time when we had our tails up - at The Ageas Bowl, after Lords. Such events are rare for India, to say the absolute least. If ever there was a time to grasp the nettle, that was the time. An appropriate playing XI wasn't chosen. The chosen players were then told that despite holding some very significant advantages, they probably won't win. Therefore, they should not even try. Inexcusable.

    These fighting innings only exaggerate Dhoni's worth when viewed in isolation.

    That said, every single player has, now, some serious questions to answer. They owe that much. But, will they be asked by anyone who matters?

  • Mervo on August 16, 2014, 1:11 GMT

    Dhoni did well and showed grit despite his less than perfect technique. To watch the English medium pacers on that damp wicket made me wonder what damage Johnson would have done. There would have been physical damage to bodies. England will need to re-think their strategy when Australia come, especially without Swan.

  • Cricketlover645 on August 16, 2014, 1:00 GMT

    ohh my ohh my what is going on for over rated India! Indian fans must be able to accept the fact that a tam can not be always win. Therefore Indian fans pls have some respect when commenting on other teams or players. Give due respect. By the way leave these player's houses and families alone. These players are humans and they always can not be winning matches for you.

  • crickarrr on August 16, 2014, 0:54 GMT

    i see lots of hate comments here from sri lankan fans.i'm my self a sri lankan fan and i would like to request from all sri lankan fans,not to be like indian fans how they act on our failures(else we can't say the difference right?).to indian fans(not all) in our defence you guys started it.But anyways good luck for both ind & eng sides and hope indian team can come strongly in second innings..cheers!

  • on August 16, 2014, 0:47 GMT

    Opening Partnership:

    "India, remarkably, have not assembled a half-century opening stand for 17 Test innings." ... says a lot. Without downplaying the shoddy performance of others... this one factor had been one of the biggest banes for India for a while. A good start is essential in a five day game. This is not T-20 !

  • on August 16, 2014, 0:31 GMT

    More worried about cricinfo then the cricket team, they need to diversify from cricket to survive, cover kashyap, sindu, yogeshwar dutt and other sports or else they may lose a billion viewers.

    pujara has a bigger gap between bat and pad then an octogenarian has between his left molar and right molar, kohli is playing leg cricket, gambhir is playing kaun banega crorepatis fastest finger first for the umpires, and the commentators are talking about everything except how they managed the same collapses in their playing days in england

  • on August 16, 2014, 0:26 GMT

    I really feel for the Indian fans. They had so much hope start of this series. When SL won the series few weeks ago I remember the comments of some Indian fans. They were not giving any respect to SL team or the individual players who out played England. I cant see any of them commenting here. Test cricket is the hardest game of cricket. That's why most best players rate test cricket pinnacle of the game. Had India played less matches in this series it would have been better series for them.

  • Temuzin on August 16, 2014, 0:09 GMT

    @frozeninusa: Loved your comment. Very true. A few of them have already started blaming Dhoni for selecting Binny and gambhir. Classical.

  • B.R.K.R on August 15, 2014, 23:55 GMT

    3rd test was the turning point, we played with 3 bowlers and rohit hoping for a drawn test which was in hindsight way too defensive after winning 1st test, we should have gone with 5 bowlers with england already on the mat we should gone all out for a convincing win, this shows dhoni is being too defensive as a captain :(

  • hiranya on August 15, 2014, 23:49 GMT

    At least India batted for 50+ overs after a long time. i think india should be demoted to 50 over and 20-20 cricket for their serious inability to play five day matches. but they can return to test cricket when they find few proper batsmen who can play longer innings.

  • Keithpandey on August 15, 2014, 23:47 GMT

    Quick points for Indian cricket...

    1.Our priority is odi wc so these tests are meaningless. 2.Selectors plz think about split captaincy, suresh raina for t20, dhoni for odi n sehwag for test. 3.The idea for foreign coach is total failure at least in case of duncun n greg. 4.To build a team from ashes we are in need for"John Wright" or our own great "Kapil sir". 5.Keeping in mind with dhoni's workload we need separate wk for test n odi, t20, make robin uthappa wk for t20, dhoni for odi and naman for test matches. 6. Three genuine test spinners at our disposal "A_mishra, P_ ojha, S_nadim". 7. Three genuine test fast medium bowlers "Umesh, iswar pandey, Praveen kr. 8.Test all rounders " Irfan Pathan" and Ashwin. 9. we need a pair of young technically right openers n one sold all weather middle order batsmen only for test matches. 10. Plz hire "Jason Gillipse" as bowling coach till wc, that is our main priority.

    selectors please read. Hope 10 pts act as anti biotic for team's disease..

  • _-Will-_ on August 15, 2014, 23:44 GMT

    I usually enjoy watching test cricket regardless of who plays, provided there is a contest. But, after Trent Bridge, I decided not to watch India "play test cricket" for a little while at least. Just to give myself some relief from continuously being reminded that, no matter how bad things seem, they are likely to actually get worse. Friends who did watch assure me I made the right decision.

    The concept of 'hitting rock bottom' assumes a finality to even the most spectacular and protracted declines. It is where England were before they individually and collectively decided that there was no where else to go but up. Team India continues to insist they have further to fall.

    From a strictly business perspective, I can only wonder if or how the BCCI will react. Of their three main brands - T20, F50 and tests - the latter has a severely damaged reputation. The actual financial consequences of this are known only to them. Will they improve the product? Or will they discontinue the line?

  • Greatest_Game on August 15, 2014, 23:40 GMT

    @ gbz22 has some strange math for us to ponder. He writes "Yes (India) lost in NZ and SA. In SA they dominated 12 of the 15 days of cricket but failed to win."

    2 tests, @ 5 days per test =10 days, + 3 ODIs = 13 days. 13 days of cricket in which India were hung, drawn & quartered in the ODIs, comprehensively crushed in the 2nd test, and came within a few runs of conceding the highest run chase in test history, against a 10 man team short a strike bowler. 13 days of cricket in which India won absolutely nothing: zero, zilch, nada, not a single thing.

    Now, how does that add up to India apparently dominating 12 of 15 days of cricket? It does not. @ gbz22 is freely revising history, creating a fantasy of a dominant, but for some mysterious reason, winless India. India have won more in this test series than they did in tests & ODIs in SA. Time to accept reality: India won nothing because they dominated nothing.

  • crzcric on August 15, 2014, 23:38 GMT

    Its funny people people admiring so much abt dhoni's 82. He didn't get to play the new ball or old ball.Its always the case in one day cricket as well.he is just smart enough to coming to the right situation and get the credit. He is just overrated. Not even close to sachin or dravid.

  • on August 15, 2014, 23:23 GMT

    India were extremely unlucky. Rahane was unluckily out. Cook was not given out by the umpire when Bhuvneshwar appealed eventhough it was hitting the stumps. There were many inside edges during India's bowling. But overall the day belonged to England.

  • toorak on August 15, 2014, 23:21 GMT

    India is crumbling under pressure this is the real truth, they are the real flat track bullies. Most of the Indian fans living in the bubble of IPL, they will degrade criticise and do what ever to down grade any team, when you go though cricinfo comments there are ample evidence, this is pay back time mates...don't whinge taste your own medicine.....the real test is in down under.....prepare for a WHITE WASH...

  • SaracensBob on August 15, 2014, 23:07 GMT

    This really is quite shocking from India. Imagine a (fairly recent) top order of Ganguly, Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman batting at The Oval in today's conditions. India would be in the region of 250 for 3 at close of play with plenty of power to add on the second day. Starting to look like the I.P.L. has really messed up India as a test matc team. I fear for them when they visit Australia.

  • thozar on August 15, 2014, 22:55 GMT

    It is sad that even Sri Lankan and Pakistani fans are coming here and bashing India when their teams have worse record than India outside their home. At least India has won series in Sri Lanka and Pakistan. Sri Lanka have not even come close to winning a test in India guys. Think about how poor they must be. Pakistan has been beaten by India every time we faced them in the world cup, both one day and T20. I can only think that these 2 country fans are jealous of India's incredible world cup triumph in 2011. Especially Sri Lanksare bitter that we got the better of them in the finals. England and South Africa have never won the world cup. Especially South Africa has not won T20 world cup also. Same with Oz. India has won 2 one day world cups, champions trophy, and T20 world cup. So, non-Indian fans should stop needling us unnecessarily.

    Cricket is a funny game. You never know what is going to happen after the first day. So let us wait and watch. Eng batting is also brittle.

  • Mervo on August 15, 2014, 22:52 GMT

    These pitches are very grassy, and we are told in this case, also damp. Well I can see that England really needed a couple of wins, but really they don't do much for the balance of the game. There should be something there for all the players not just average medium pacers. I can understand how Indian fans would be saying, "just wait and see" and then present dry, low slow raging turners back home. This kind of wicket manufacture to 'save the dignity' of an ailing team when they play at home, is why test cricket is in the crisis that it is in. Some balance please? Why can't countries be confident enough in their team to have wickets that respect seam, bounce and spin? We, the spectators, would applaud.

  • on August 15, 2014, 22:46 GMT

    Another totally abject performance by the Indian top order, and good to see Jordan and Woakes take the six wickets between them. Even at this stage, the chances of India avoiding defeat (and a heavy one at that, possibly) must be huge.

  • on August 15, 2014, 22:41 GMT

    yes I do agree that they are playing worst cricket without showing some fighting spirit . the most important thing is why people are comparing with srilanka series even though its about 2 games. one must confess that crucial players are under pressure and going through lean patch. the worst thing is some people are giving suggestion to dhoni and company that they have to leave off stump swinging deliveries and skipper should go for attacking game. Even some people doesn't played even county levels are giving suggestions and underestimating dhoni leadership qualities. cricket is not like soccer where striker can produce the goal but test cricket is totally different where temperament , concentration, patience, will power , skill last but not team work.

  • on August 15, 2014, 22:35 GMT

    @gbz22 I'm as disappointed in this Indian side as anyone, but just a correction: in NZ they did not dominate more days than NZ. At Eden Park the first two days were definitely the Black Caps, the third day (of 17 wickets) belonged to India and the last day to NZ (given that they, you know, won). At the Basin days 1 and 2 were India's but the next two were NZ's on their way to 600+ and the last day was even (which basically had no function once Baz got his 300). So 3.5 days out of 9 is in no way more than NZ. Let's not pretend the Indian team only just started with its problems.

  • on August 15, 2014, 22:18 GMT

    The board should sack the current crop of players in the team and instead start preparing the junior team to represent India on it tours as this team has been a disaster can't blame the captain as he is as good as the team is Or let us stop playing cricket for the next few years give the emerging players a chance with sauna or Dhoni as the coach

  • Solid_Snake on August 15, 2014, 22:17 GMT

    @IndianSRTfan :You should all give some credit to Dhoni..If Dhoni was not there in the team,India would have bowled out on less than 20 runs in last test match.Same thing happened in this current match.It's only because of Dhoni India managed to go past 50 runs..lol.Even Bangladesh can do better than this.Eng now a days are going through bad form.Aus defeated them,even SL defeated them.Yet so called World Champs could not beat Eng.

  • ElvisKing on August 15, 2014, 22:16 GMT

    The only reason for such an outing means there is in-fighting in the team. The players are not at all interested in playing cricket, they would rather play Soccer than practice batting and catching. They could sit down and watch the mistakes they committed or the bowling actions of Anderson and company. How does one take a player like Binny in the team when you could have done better with Rohit Sharma or Naman Ojha ! Naman would have been handy bat and could keep wickets, as we have watched Dhoni has trouble diving to his left and going for the Ball during last 4 Tests. If there was no need for Naman Ojha in Tests why was he called to England, as he did not figure in the India A ODIs played in Australia ? Inexplicably Dhoni started with Ishant Sharma and who has been bowling as first change, instead of Aaron,who troubled the England batsmen in last Test . specially when the conditions were overcast throughout today.

  • on August 15, 2014, 22:14 GMT

    Is anyone still rooting for Gambhir or Kohli to assume captaincy?

  • Solid_Snake on August 15, 2014, 22:11 GMT

    @IndianSRTfan:I can understand the feeling of all Indian fans.After watching their team getting defeated like that,now all fans are Pointing fingers at other teams.lol..If this thing can make Team India help win matches outside their own country,be my guest :P

    Last time Pak won from SA in SA in 2006..But after that pak toured SA only once in 2012.So it's useless to count all these years. So far India have won only 5 matches out of so many Series's in Australia.Pakistan is just 1 match behind.Pak have won 4 matches in Australia till now. I was wrong in saying that India only win matches in their country.India can't even win in their own grounds.Look what Eng did to them in their last tour to India.India can't even beat Eng on a spin friendly tracks.They can't beat anyone on bouncy tracks,spin tracks.So i can understand all this frustration of Indian Fans.

  • on August 15, 2014, 22:11 GMT

    India's One Day Team at Bristol will be Rohit Dhawan Kohli Raina Rahane Dhoni Jadeja Ashwin Bhuvneshwar Mohit Sharma Umesh Yadav

  • VenkyN on August 15, 2014, 22:10 GMT

    India is a poor test team - this is not news. It has been five test matches, and we have not found the eleventh player, or an opener yet. Atleast this batting line up has inexperience as an excuse. However, that will only work for so long. The openers need to forget their millions in the bank and start working like coal miners on the field. Kohli and Pujara will be better off in the long run, if they have any courage, or self-respect at all to learn from this experience. The great Rahul Dravid was a cropper in his first tour of Australia and everyone knows what happened later. In the last couple of games though, the person that I have been most disappointed with is oddly, Rahane. One soft dismissal is too many. Three in a difficult series, when you are one of 5 batsmen is just inexcusable.

    The bowlers - well they are simply not that good. They try, and are honest about their limitations, that is it. We will never be a consistent team without better pacers than this trio.

  • Karthik78 on August 15, 2014, 22:10 GMT

    Only India in this world and across all sports, is having very weak senior team and very strong A/B Teams and U19 team. India's second team never disappointed either U19 or Team A tour (for example, recent India's A tour in Aus). Only problem is with adamant BCCI management and the captain who resist to change the combination and persisting with same failure team even there are very good replacements.

  • on August 15, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    English fast wickets are historically a tough call particularly for new comers. Also, despite talent, new comers vulnerabilities are being revealed and will take time, this includes fielding, the offshore crowds. There are retirements due in Asian teams, thats another challenge thy must brace for........

  • on August 15, 2014, 21:30 GMT

    The major puzzling aspects have been the form of Kholi and Shami , Jedeja's selection,Moin's bowling dominance and Dhoni's sometimes eccentric captaincy....in many ways it's been a strange series..many memorable moments ,some controversy and many question marks...the Indian batting just seems demoralized and will require a miracle to stave off defeat...England are perhaps 2 good batting sessions away from being in a virtually unassailable position.

  • SpaMaster on August 15, 2014, 21:30 GMT

    So much is being written on the Anderson incident. For your clear information, Dhoni pressed the charge after the first Test. India thumped England at Lord's well after the charge became public. So I don't agree with this Anderson incident spurring up England. Some selective memories. Besides that, no one can defend Anderson's behavior. He has been downright boorish and abusive. He was always going to land in trouble with that sort of attitude. If England feels spurred by Anderson controversy, does it mean England supports such behavior. England should have asked Anderson to cut it out for their own image if not for the possibility of Anderson being punched back on his face by one of the batsmen.

  • CricketMakdi on August 15, 2014, 21:11 GMT

    @LivingDead , When there was Ganguly, Dravid and Sachin we lost hopeless than now. The average does not mean anything, one innings 150 N.O and next 3 innings 0, will still put you at 50 Avg.

  • hhillbumper on August 15, 2014, 21:08 GMT

    We don't want Indian players in county cricket. All they will do is lower the quality. They are interested in low quality batting on flat pitches. Bless the poor little devils. Funny what confidence has done for the English though

  • Nampally on August 15, 2014, 20:57 GMT

    The Fans comments on team selection fell on deaf Ears of Dhoni. He is more interested in the "process" (of Failure?) than winning the matches. His XI selection is insanely irrational . He again included 2 passengers in the XI- Gambhir & Binny. So even before India went into bat, they were One OUT! A guy like Ojha was the right choice if Dhoni does not want Dhawan. But Gambhir is the worst choice of an opener. Binny is "bits & pieces" guy as someone rightly said. He was out for 5. Kohli's was wrongly adjudged LBW, as shown by Hawkeye. Pujara & Rahane played badly So 66 for 6 from previous 2 innings was reduced to 44 for 6. What "process" is Dhoni implementing? It looked more like a funeral procession by Indian bats. So Dhoni was the "Lone Ranger" leading the charge. His innings was "magnificent'-82 out of 148! But for Dhoni's knock India would have been shot for 60! Dhoni going with the same 5 Failed batsmen after an innings defeat defies Sanity! Shami & Ojha/Rohit NOT Gambhir & Binny!

  • AltafPatel on August 15, 2014, 20:55 GMT

    This is 4 times in row India could not past 200. Shameful, England side is very inexperienced compare to India.

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:54 GMT

    LOL! this has got to be the poorest excuse for a test batting line up ever! and to think ENG were embarrassed 5-0 not that long ago by AUS. the gulf between Ind and the good teams in monumental!

  • Cric_fan1000 on August 15, 2014, 20:51 GMT

    Indian cricketers didn't look to play with commitment. They were just throwing their wicket away. Except dhoni, no one really wanted to hang in there n play well.

  • SLMaster on August 15, 2014, 20:46 GMT

    Also, to add to my comments before, get rid of ego and employ DRS. Don't be critical about it. Right or wrong in BCCI perspective include it in Ind future tours.

  • johnathonjosephs on August 15, 2014, 20:45 GMT

    I find it ironic that Sri Lanka managed to win a 1-0 victory against this very bowling attacking, yet the mighty Indian team that boasts of some of the "most promising" batsman in the world has gotten demolished in the last 3 matches. It really is more of a surprise than anything. From Test 3 onwards, India has been a completely different India than it was in the first 2 Tests. Maybe the Jadeja-Anderson thing really got to the Indians? Or were they really just lucky that Ishant fired in the 2nd test?

  • LivingDead on August 15, 2014, 20:44 GMT

    @Jellybean yorker: Eng+SA+Australia+SL+West Indies combined population is around 200 million. Compare it with India - 1.5 billion. And how many of the 200 million actually watch cricket? Compared to India where it is a religion. Sure test cricket can exist but we dont want it to merely exist, we want it to thrive and grow. But game follows where the money is I guess.

  • SLMaster on August 15, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    I think Jadeja and Anderson incident spark ENG and downfall of India. India got carried away.

  • HolyShmoly on August 15, 2014, 20:38 GMT

    I am beyond embarrassed and disappointed. Scores of 178, 157, 162 and 148 are not what's expected of a half a decent test team. I so wish this was a two test series, this Indian team could have walked away with a trophy much like SL and all the Indian fans and media would have been raving about this great team. I seriously wish there was a 2 tier test system and India is relegated to the 2nd tier along with their friends WI, BAN and ZIM. This is an eye sore to watch these guys play.

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:36 GMT

    The difference between SL in Eng and Ind in Eng is the preparation and thats all. SL prepared in so many ways despite losing Paul Farbrace

  • CurrentPresident on August 15, 2014, 20:30 GMT

    Probably, there should be a well defined automatic standard for letting players continue and replacing them - no matter who they are.

    Have a base team of top 30 (10 batsmen, 10 fast bowlers, 5 allrounders, 5 spinners) and keep replacing the deadwood aggressively.

    For example, if as a test batsman, your averages ball lasted in the last ten innings is < 50, you should be automatically replaced no matter what. There are plenty of other players who could replace you.

    Similarly, if you are a test bowler and your average is above 50 for 10 innings, you are automatically disqualified and someone replaces you.

    We cannot just depend on players' pride and promise. Unless these automatic hard rules are in place for non-performance, we risk collecting non-performing stars.

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    to all English fans... England will also suffer these losses on a return tour of india...except South Africa all other teams have just won in their home turf...No idea what Duncan fletcher n Joe dawes are doing...are the coaches trying to correct the players mistakes n give a solution.. I can definitely see a change in cooks footwork after the 2nd test...Definitely he has had a word with his coach...Pls BCCI for heaven sake n for The goodness of indian cricket plssssssssssss change the coach... at least the bowling coach

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:25 GMT

    @AltafPatel on (August 15, 2014, 19:19 GMT) One things has been from this series that our super hero Kohli, Dhawan, Pujara, Jadu, Dhoni, Rohit...all are home ground bully. Total 100 or 200 runs from 5 test series by the batsmen averaging 50, 60 isn't a joke.

    ...I agree with most of what you have said except for Dhoni..here are stats:

    349 Number of runs that MS Dhoni has scored in the Investec Test series.

    704 Number of balls faced by Dhoni in this series.

    55.41 Percentage of team runs scored by Dhoni in India's first innings - 82 out of 148.

  • Rally_Windies on August 15, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    does the BBCI think that including Rohit and Dahwan, would result in a lower score than 148 ?

    do they really think they played thier best team?

  • gbz22 on August 15, 2014, 20:14 GMT

    The inability to innovate and adapt from this team is a shock to everyone. No one anticipated such a horror show. Yes they lost in NZ and SA. In SA they dominated 12 of the 15 days of cricket but failed to win. In NZ, they dominated more days than NZ, but still lost. But in england, its just mind boggling. The complete disintegration of confidence, will, commitment, self-belief is hard to fathom. Yes they have been unlucky, yes conditions have been almost inexplicably favorable to england, session after session, match after match. But you need to have the mental strength to cope with things going against you. There's something deeper going on here, which we don't see. Probably a major fight inside the dressing room, power centers, I don't know. As for the duncan fletcher, whose tenure has been the worst tenure in terms of test cricket for any manager ever, its beyond belief that he's barely questioned. Rest assured, he'll be sitting there like a oak stump for the next series too.

  • LivingDead on August 15, 2014, 20:14 GMT

    Certainly Indians struggle against movement, but this is abysmal. I mean, its not like Indians cant play in England - Dravid averages 69 in England, Ganguly 65, Sachin 54. But they were quality, not only in technique but in temperament as well.

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 20:13 GMT

    @LivingDead: Test cricket existed before India was involved and would exist without it. England, Australia, South Africa, West Indies, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe........................

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:08 GMT

    Its the concentration on T20. these batsmen have shoddy technique against the moving ball. They hang their bat out. that is dangerous on these picthes.

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:06 GMT

    Wow r u serious.....dhoni is the only reason we have the last two test matches of this series...LOLZ

  • on August 15, 2014, 20:05 GMT

    hahahah @fronzeninusa

    i see what you did there :D

  • bendobbie on August 15, 2014, 20:03 GMT

    After seeing these reoccuring shoddy performances from India and then reflecting on the way Sri Lanka played in England just weeks before, I have to ask which team deserves the five test series and which team deserves two tests. I think that if teams such as Sri Lanka and Pakistan played more tests then they would be much higher up the rankings. It seems now that the ranking can only apply to teams other than the big three because of the number of games played. This makes South Africa's performances all the more impressive.

  • jb633 on August 15, 2014, 20:02 GMT

    The strange thing about this is that i honestly believe had we prepared pitches like this against SL we would have won 2-0 and had India played on the pitches we played on against SL we could be 2-0 down. This game has no bearing on India v Sri Lanka, Sri Lankan fans may crow but India normally dominate SL so why be so smug about their losses. Cricket is in a strange phase at the minute with most sides capable of very good and very poor performances to boot. Only SA can hold their heads up with pride looking at their terrific record over the last 5 years. Aus will be good in certain conditions and shocking in others, England and New Zeland the same. Pakistan have potential if they can find a good pair of openers but they can crumble too. No point in fans getting cocky as the next minute your team can be thrashed. Fans have to accept SA are the best team on the planet but are still fallible. Anyone can beat anyone at this point. Just enjoy the game.

  • Chris_P on August 15, 2014, 19:59 GMT

    @thozar. I am still waiting for Kholi's double century, India's score to reach 600 & watch those "innocuous seamers' Jordan & Woakes who are incapable of getting even ordinary Ranji players out not perform? You've gone quiet?

  • Nutcutlet on August 15, 2014, 19:56 GMT

    @ Gary Nicholson (August 15, 2014, 19:22 GMT): in recent times maybe. But the 1959 Indian side (after England had been thrashed 4-0 by Benaud's Australia in '58-'59!) was every bit as dire. That series was a 5-0 humiliation, besides being the first Test series I followed in close detail. This series can only be 3-1! But in those days Indian cricket didn't have the riches it has today, so there's less excuse, really.

  • NoIPL on August 15, 2014, 19:56 GMT

    Probably one of the most one sided match i have ever seen.The result is know ever before the first day lunch.

    Even Sky commentators are trying their best to give some postive spin about the indian team batting.

    OK i agree with an ex-player saying we need to be patient with this team. what happend to the side travelled in 2011 that lost 8-0 loss to england and Aus. I think BCCI and its cronies are responsible for this mess . will BCCI act on these omissions or will it be swept under the carpet as they did after 8-0 loss in 2011/12.

    Anyway its god that these so called Indian Superstars need to be brought down to the earth from their high pedestal. Its good that England is showing them how to play test cricket.

  • LivingDead on August 15, 2014, 19:44 GMT

    This is a worrying sign for international test cricket. Consistent performances like these will turn away Indian fans even more. It might be first nail in the coffin of test cricket. With India fans switched off and test cricket already losing out to other sports in Eng/Australia/SA, it seems like test cricket days are numbered. Sure Australia/Eng/SA enjoy their test cricket but there is not much room for the sport to grow there. Only hope is that may be someone would inspire India to a victory or may be India will get a great coach in Dravid/Kumble/Ganguly who fires up the players. Otherwise, cricket might be heading exclusively into the T20 direction.

  • on August 15, 2014, 19:44 GMT

    I must say Indian top order must stay out of creese and to play all balls coming in and leave all balls out side off until first 15 overs

  • CricketChat on August 15, 2014, 19:43 GMT

    No one should grudge if Gambhir, Binny and Pankaj never play for Ind in tests again with Dhawan running close behind them. The only thing that would have bothered this Eng team is high quality spin that seems to have disappeared after Kumble retired years ago. That pace bowling is never going to be India's forte is once again confirmed when Indian seamers couldn't get a single wkt today on the same pitch that Eng bowlers wrecked havoc on Ind batting just hrs earlier.

  • Nutcutlet on August 15, 2014, 19:33 GMT

    As this summer approached, I looked forward to seeing both Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara display their techniques and temperaments on the Test stage here in England. I wanted them to give England's bowlers a searching examination. I wanted -- please forgive me for my innocence -- a genuine contest, a good scrap. I should have known better. I am old enough! India has been humilated once again - and it would have been even more of an embarrassment without Dohni's gutsy knocks. Now, would the BCCI care to underscore their commitment to Test cricket? Even if they do, would anyone believe them? Heaven help this side when it gets to Australia! BTW: to Indians in search of Dhoni's successor as captain; I suggest Ravi Ashwin. He has a level head on his shoulders and is a most intelligent cricketer. His body language, however, suggests that he's outside the inner sanctum in this Indian side. Those Indian supporters who know the current pecking order may care to verify this observation.

  • on August 15, 2014, 19:28 GMT

    sad to see what is happening to cricket. giving 5matches to india in eng or in aus you ll continiously see this dear ICC headed by indians.3-1, 4-0, 4-0 and 5-0 is certainly near by. this is just ordinary cricket and global fans want to see some tough cricket play by both parties. if not financial benifits will not be there because Indians will not watch cricket. give some more chances to SA, Pak, and SL in tests which will give equal chance. they play good cricket but having less chances. it is time to change this.

  • on August 15, 2014, 19:28 GMT

    "Some" Indian fans are really funny. They come and ridicule other teams like Pak, SL SA, ENG (sp SL & PAK) - when they are performing bad & even extremely well. But when India is failing they scold other team fans to mind their own teams! If they have been nice to others & decent enough to appreciate other teams & players (rather than being big headed) when they perform well, no body will come here & ridicule u guys. So learn to be decent then u will ( & ur players) receive the same respect from other fans.& no body is superior to others. Everybody at some point will fail but will rise again. So be decent enough to appreciate others talent as well. So no body will ridicule ur players when there are some rough times like this.

  • on August 15, 2014, 19:22 GMT

    Worst. Indian. Side. EVER.

    This is actually painful to watch.

  • on August 15, 2014, 19:21 GMT

    I think India missed an opportunity here. Dhoni should have include Dhavan & Rohit in playing 11. This is a last test & anyhow we are struggling so far. But after test series ODIs are starting. Match practice is most essential for any player. Rohit & Dhavan might have scored few runs on their names in this test and its sure big boost for Indian batting in ODIs where all other batsmen are struggling. Now immediately from first ODI everybody will expect specially from Rohit big inning. And burden will be again on Rohit to score runs after a big gap. Remember in our last Aussie tour. After sitting for more than 60 days on bench, Rohit lost his form miserably. Really feel very sorry for Rohit today. He shoud have included in playing 11. Even I dare to say he may have tried at opening partner of Vijay. India needs to try something new. England have their plan ready for every our batsmen and they are applying themselves perfectely. Rohit has sufficient experience opening in Eng. ATB India

  • frozeninusa on August 15, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    I expect another article on Dhoni's technique explaining why his poor technique is the reason of failure of every other Indian batsmen. I also expect comments from some Indian fans explaining why India would have won the previous test had Binny been selected and why India would lose this test because Binny has been picked ahead of Rohit or Jadeja.

  • AltafPatel on August 15, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    One things has been from this series that our super hero Kohli, Dhawan, Pujara, Jadu, Dhoni, Rohit...all are home ground bully. Total 100 or 200 runs from 5 test series by the batsmen averaging 50, 60 isn't a joke.

  • Temuzin on August 15, 2014, 19:17 GMT

    What No Jadeja in the team? So whom I am going to blame now for this loss? Oh well there is Dhoni, let us all blame him. Its Dhoni who is unnecessarily making runs in these tests. He should leave run making to Pujara, Kohli, Gambhir and Rahane. He should just focus on his keeping. by making 4 half centuries in thsi series he has confused all our top class batsmen. If Dhoni is making runs then he should also bowl and take wickets. He should not trouble our bowlers for that job.

  • on August 15, 2014, 19:16 GMT

    I wonder what will feel worse for Indian fans, the 4-0 drubbing in 2011 or the 3-1 that this is likely to become. probably 3-1 because of how awful England was and how they had England on the mat.

  • AltafPatel on August 15, 2014, 19:15 GMT

    Dhoni plays only when loss is clear. There is hardly an innings from him when he helped team to victory or at least draw. He is batsman in vain. If you are in good form, other batsmen are passing through bad form, you should come up in order to balance the situation. He rather prefer to his place secure in the team as captain and batsman.

  • ishaan1997 on August 15, 2014, 18:58 GMT

    Agreed, india are going to loose this test match too, i think the main reason because of the coach, the great Sir Duncan Fletcher. I mean, what is he doing to improve our team? He has been the coach of the england side, still he cannot train the batsman? And about the captaincy, is duncan a sitting duck?Isn't he the one who has to tell dhoni what he is doing right or wrong? In my opinion,duncan is not doing justice to his job. First he spoiled the retirement of the senior players and now trying to cut short the careers of the likes of kohli,pujara,rahane? I mean kohli and rahane are the best example, can't he help kohli to readjust his gaurd?OR why can't he tell rahane to avoid the driving early on his innings? That said, i won't predict anything about the austrailia series(Aus for sure will win it), but i just hope these players somehow get there form and confidence back, since, if they get it(even on flat tracks), then they would score runs anywhere in my opinion.

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    oh... Sri Lankans have 7 matches ODI and a couple of TEST for England..... looking forward to see what happens... oh by the way we can see the best bowler of thw the world Mr. Jimmy bowl in Sri Lanka against his Slinga Malinga...

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:54 GMT

    @indiansrtfan We lankans will comfort ourselves with the 2014 wc t20 win and a series win in England also in 2014. Love the way you indian fans cant take critisism:)

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:54 GMT

    What BCCI and more importantly Indian fans need to understand is that, India is performing below average since 2011 consistently, even in this series they have continued to do so. What is more surprising that, they didn't get acclimatized with the weather and pitches even after playing 4 test, the performance of the Indian team is heading from bad to worst.India just cant rule the cricketing world by playing in home and investing money in ICC. In my opinion too much home cricket, IPL and preparing flat track at home, where every innings is a 300+ one, is hurting Indian cricket badly.These pitches restricting the batsman to develop sound technique, which can be applied to foreign soil as well. As a cricket fan we want to see the traditional Indian good batting, which was there pride.

  • Great_Lion on August 15, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    I am sri lankan and a huge fan of kohli.But I was shocked here by looking at his failures.I thought he is a complete batsman.But I think he has lot to learn from greats like sachin, sanga,lara and dravid. Another one inning remaining so I hope he will play better than the past few innings.

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:52 GMT

    our flat track bullies have proved once again that they cannot play the swinging ball or quality fast bowling.the players take their place for granted.non performers shoul dbe shown the door

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 18:51 GMT

    @pratit: Bumble reckons that repeatedly doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome is a sign of lunacy. ....and Nas says Bumble knows about these things!

  • suman2 on August 15, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    You would naturally want to question the team selection (after such consistently poor performances), but then who selects the selectors? And who selects the coach?

  • Prodger on August 15, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    Everything young Robson does has earnestness stamped on it not to mention a demonic intensity. He follows in the line of England batsmen such as Tavare,Shah,Compton and, of course, Trott. He needs to show a touch more relaxation at the crease to achieve lasting success at this level

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    to srilankan fans....bashing India about their poor cricket and comparing them with sl teams win over eng few months ago is unfair..that was a 2test series...if this was a 2test series then India would have won after the lords test...I am not saying India is playing good cricket but definitely those two series can't be compared

  • Lets-bash-others on August 15, 2014, 18:41 GMT

    Hope the change of format will bring some fight in Indian team.. This test will not last even 3 days... May be tomorrow itself the game can be over...

    Indian fans should be prepared for such mediocre performances in tests as the team donot approach a test match properly.. A new coach is the need of the hour and also better to have more TEST SPECIALISTS in the test team..

    VK needs to change his approach.. He IS a great ODI player but what if his poor form continues in ODIs as well.. He struggled in SA and in NZ ODIs..

    May be some verbal exchanges with English players can help him but English players never needed that as for that to happen VK needs to stay atleast 100 balls....

  • truecric_fan on August 15, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Its time for MSD to quit as Test Captain, also a majority of Indian players like Ashwin, Jadeja, Dhawan, Rohit Sharma etc need to be restricted to T20 and maybe ODIs. Most importantly, BCCI management needs to be replaced with staff who can generate positive results.

  • sheru-sher on August 15, 2014, 18:36 GMT

    Indian players are so used to T20 cricket with edges making runs , with the field spread wide , that serious habits have developed. They must realise that , that sort of cricket is made for flat tracks/dust bowls . Sorry guys save those plays for inside India.

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:34 GMT

    The match will over in 3 days...

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    @those bashing Pakistan and their record overseas. pls tell me when was the last time Pakistan toured Australia England? we dunt get to play the big three at all. we havnt played in our own country for as long as u can remember still we are unbeaten in a test series in UAE.The last overseas tour was against SA and we beat them in the Odi series. what happened when India went there??? even though we are still an unpredictable team we have never been and never will be thrashed in so many back to back overseas tours like India did.simply bcos if this would have happened with Pakistan the captain coach and chairman cricket board would have been sacked immediately. so please stop giving these lame excuses and concentrate on avoiding the record of most numbers of overseas defeats under dhoni. guys ur just 3 matches away.

  • Prof_Chaos on August 15, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    Didnt someone say that Kohli will score atleast 3 centuries in this series? Indian team players need to not give IPL their highest attention. With money driving everything in Indian cricket now a days, I feel very sad as a fan. These young batsmen has true potential but I am not sure if they are getting proper guidance. For the next tour India needs to find Vijay a good partner and please dont play players like Jadeja and Binny. They arent test quality players.

  • recycle-bin-is-empty on August 15, 2014, 18:26 GMT

    @Big_Poppa_94 you exactly echoed my sentiments. Despite getting folded under 150 again and again, I still don't think there is any 'huge' problem with the batting techniques as suggested by many here. They played a lot well than here in SA even in the 2nd test here in one of the greenest pitch. The problem has more to do with selection. Yada, Mishra, Ojha Saha are all better than Ishant, Jadeja, Ashwin and Rohit.

    Maybe the team morale is very very severely down-Kohli cannot become one of the worst fielder from one of the best in just 2 months time.

  • Prof_Chaos on August 15, 2014, 18:25 GMT

    India is feeling the same pain Australia felt couple of years ago when all of their batting legends retired. You always think that young players are ready to step up and replace this legends but you really cant. Dravid and Tendulkar are among the top 3 greatest batsmen India has ever seen (Gavaskar being the other one). Kohli and Pujara needs to realize that they need more practice out side of India. Go play county cricket. Kohli gives me impression of arrogance and if he truly is an arrogant, overconfident person, then he will need to fix that. Its ok to be aggressive but aggression without intent is useless. He will always suffer against quality bowling.

  • eggyroe on August 15, 2014, 18:23 GMT

    @Arvind Jagadeesan,why should the English County System become the finishing School for Indian Cricketers.Are you seriously saying that under performing Indian Cricketers should be given access to the County Scene in place of young England Qualified Cricketers.If that is the case then in my opinion the Lunatics have really taken over the asylum.

  • TaleEnder on August 15, 2014, 18:21 GMT

    At the toss, Mr. Process said that he as well would have liked to bowl on Day 1 on this pitch and his batsmen did not let him down !! :P

  • anand_ on August 15, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    Just cant take this anymore. Just spoiled another day, these guys just never learn. Great Innings by Dhoni under pressure but pathetic field placements and bowling selections. Dont think I am going to watch cricket for a while now and if India keep playing this way I dont know how many will.

  • recycle-bin-is-empty on August 15, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    The reason for all these is none other than Dhoni. There are always some players who are not even average at best and keep getting selected. R. Ashwin- is he the best spinner ? I just don't know how this guy keeps getting selected, he has one of the worst avg outside India, both Ojha and Amit Mishra have always outperformed him yet he gets selected. Ishant Sharma- really ? There are some losers who keep getting selected like Ashwin, Rohit, Ishant, Sir Jadeja sometimes all of them sometimes one or two of them effectively making India a team of 9 or 8 players. And then in press conference Dhoni will cry about the bowling attack. AS far as the batting goes, I personally think it has more to do with mental pressure than anything. The way Gambhir, Kohli, Pujara and Rahane are getting out, the lack of confidence in them is apparent. I know Gambhir has failed miserably but seems to me he is the one under most pressure. The guy needs support, he was the one who won us two world cups.

  • MiddleStump on August 15, 2014, 18:15 GMT

    Another 3 day defeat on the cards. To increase attendance and keep the match going for 5 days there are a couple of options. Either allow every Indian batsman two chances each in the second innings, or allow all 17 players to bat. But it is still no guarantee that India will avoid an innings defeat.

  • jaggi.jagan on August 15, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    This is a series in particular that DRS would have done a world of good to India. It is about time, the BCCI took a more common sense approach in favor of DRS. This has nothing to do with how bad the team has played otherwise. Why is Binny being played. You either go with 5 bowlers or 6 batsman. We do not have room for a bits and pieces cricketer like a Binny or a Jadeja.

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    probably the end of Dhoni era at least test match captaincy is concerned.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on August 15, 2014, 18:12 GMT

    First things first, BCCI need to start helping their team and start to use Limited DRS to start helping their players out.

  • DanielRob on August 15, 2014, 18:11 GMT

    Another embarrassing display of batting by the Indian team. Its a complete waste of time watching them play. Dhoni as usual, just before the match said that "Process" is important rather than the "Result". He keeps on saying this series after series, losing every series along the way. Sadly, the World will remember the "Result" & not the "Process", & Dhoni's record as a Test captain getting from bad to worse, especially a playing away. This entire Indian test side needs a revamp before the Australian series along with the coach. I feel Akram should be made the bowling coach, that is though highly unlikely because he is a Pakistani. If radical changes are not made them I am afraid that in the long run this side will become a MINNOW playing abroad. We never played this bad away under previous captains and coaches. Well played England & India, well what to say... Keep improving your so called "Process".

  • on August 15, 2014, 18:11 GMT

    Whenever India is screwed up overseas they go on to win the ex good omen

  • pratit on August 15, 2014, 18:10 GMT

    India's inability to learn from mistakes is baffling. DRS could have negated many of the bad decisions against India. Cook's LBW was as plumb as it gets. Dhoni talks about "process". How is doing the same mistake over and over again a process?

  • Hammad.afzal on August 15, 2014, 18:10 GMT

    BCCI needs to do something soon. Even the most die hard Indian fans are running out of excuses. If England is doing this to India, Australia would do much worse.

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 18:09 GMT

    @Arvind Jagadeesan: None of these Indian batsmen, and I include Dhoni here, is good enough to play county cricket. I posted earlier to the effect that English county cricket is lo longer a finishing school for undercooked, inexperienced foreign players. Perhaps the young Indian cricketers should come over and play for free in the Leagues to get some experience, but I doubt they'll want to sacrifice their lucrative IPL deals.

  • indianzen on August 15, 2014, 18:07 GMT

    its completely England's tactic to put a pacy wicket while the first 2 tests were slower. Wish indian bowlers not that express, its really a planned once from the English cricket...

  • nursery_ender on August 15, 2014, 18:05 GMT

    Posted by Navi Kamboj on (August 15, 2014, 17:19 GMT) Kohli was given out when its marginal... Can easily be given not out and on the other hand cook was plumb and easily given not out .. Its tough to believe the standards of umpires these days .. Quite diplomatic !!!

    India's stance on DRS is that the technology is unreliable. Yet you're now using that same technology to complain about the decisions. So is it reliable or not?

  • nursery_ender on August 15, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (August 15, 2014, 17:29 GMT) Regardless of India losing or winning BCCI has to go with DRS. Though the other teams are also affected but India is affected more than any.

    The main reason England may have been getting errors in their favour (although Garry Ballance for one would have something to say after being sawn off twice at the Rose Bowl) is that their batsman don't nick off to slip at the first opportunity.

  • Lets-bash-others on August 15, 2014, 17:54 GMT

    @ Don Mohan Athukorala-- I know it won't happen but mate Indian team is not touring on your money or your team's... And let Indian fans decide where their team belongs... You concentrate on your test match..

    Try 2 understand that Indian test team will perform "similarly" in comming Aus tour also.. All Indian fans know it but they all hope for good things...

    And Bashing won't help till Indian selectors do some thing... Also if your SL team is looking good and having good time then.. Enjoy the moment...

    Why wasting your time here....

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    no offence indian fans,,actually I thought it is a T20 match...this pitch is hard but sl played in this and survived for a draw and we won the test series,,i think india must really need to think abt improving on fast tracks,,,seriously not acceptable from a world class players

  • mosin007 on August 15, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    i have sympathy for indian cricket team but some fans are giving terrible logics. 1st they were claiming that we r super power of cricket. we have worlds best batting talent like pujara, kohli and rohit etc etc. now they say wat if we always loose outside india neither srilanka and pakistan win matches outside asia. wat a lame and poor excuse for not doing well despite claiming to be the so called super power.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:42 GMT

    instead of eleven we may allow #MSdhoni alone yo play.....

  • Balancer on August 15, 2014, 17:36 GMT

    Now what are they going to do? Batting failure has become sort of traditional. I don't see any point in India going for overseas tours anymore. One can argue that every cricket playing nation is home pitch heroes, but I think SA, Aus and Eng play much better when they tour the sub-continent. With the top order playing as they are, I foresee an equally disastrous Aussie tour!!

  • Pritt32 on August 15, 2014, 17:36 GMT

    India is a very weak team, as they have scored less than 150 runs in four innings. Surely this rings alarm bells. Cannot bowl an opposition out quckly, as England will score 500 and crush India yet again. Radical changes are desparate before the Australian tour, otherwise they are heading for a drubbing. They do not deserve test status if they play this appalling standard of cricket and this continues in the next tour. Ban them from Test cricket. Sri Lanka fans are right to question the number of tests India play. They played a lot better in England than this Indian team. It is painful to watch India play and three days I expect England to win at Oval.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:34 GMT

    India should just play cricket inside there Country by using the power of ICC they have to keep there dignity.. I don't wonder to see India playing 15 odd test matches in India very soon in there flat pitches where there So called Batsman are only good at... Except Dhoni....!! Pathetic cricket all over outside subcontinents by Indian team..

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:32 GMT

    The best way for these young guys to perform well is to start playing county cricket. Even the greats Sachin, Dravid had a reasonable stint at county level which helped them to perform well. Its hard to see any Indian player taking part in county cricket these days. BCCI should allow these players...may be a season or two...which would do a world of good for these young batsmen when they travel abroad.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:30 GMT

    strange I have not seen any expert or ex - Indian cricketer comment on this habit of Dhoni team insisting on a game of football every day after play even if they win or loose or are in bad shape on a particular day. my take is, it looks like the team is so passionate about the game of soccer that they don't seem to have much steam left in the actual game. In long series like these one has to work to preserve and build passion to win in the game and here it looks like the players are happy to forget all problems of cricket pitch and move on to soccer each day. If you see the faces of the guys on TV when they show them playing football they seem so happy and enjoying themselves however that kind of enthusiasm is not seen when the days play for cricket starts. Plus a lot of ego these guys have built which shows in the Anderson episode like "how dare they" instead of worrying if " can we dare them where we are supposed to battle"

  • kumarcoolbuddy on August 15, 2014, 17:29 GMT

    Regardless of India losing or winning BCCI has to go with DRS. Though the other teams are also affected but India is affected more than any. All non-sense from umpires. Indian bowlers are tying to prove themselves here but umpires and BCCI are not really supporting them. Oh I forgot Indian fielders (Kohli & co) too. I understand that this series is clearly meant for only Cook's betterment. Something went wrong from 3rd test suddenly and Indians started playing like a domestic team. For anti-India fans (SL, Bang) this is a real feast. My dear Anti- fans have fun.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:29 GMT

    even zimbabe is palying a gud cricket against south africa thanks to dhoni

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:25 GMT

    newziland nd now England ..indian team needed a class for how to play in Other nations ground . :-)

  • whirlaway on August 15, 2014, 17:21 GMT

    Day 2 goals:

    India: Get England out for 200 or so. Wipe deficit losing 0-1 wickets

    England: Build innings to 300-350 for a lead of 150-200 by close.

    First session:

    India: Get 6+ Eng wickets before they score 148

    England: Overhaul India's total for the loss of 3 wickets or less.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:19 GMT

    Kohli was given out when its marginal... Can easily be given not out and on the other hand cook was plumb and easily given not out .. Its tough to believe the standards of umpires these days .. Quite diplomatic !!!

  • IndianSRTfan on August 15, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Solid_Snake: And Pakistan can play outside Asia can't they? Forget series when was the last time they won a test in Australia, South Africa? 15 years? 20 years? They can't even win in Sri Lanka nowadays lol.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:16 GMT

    Most of the batsmen have no motivation whatsoever to stay on the crease. It's almost like they give up before coming to the crease. well played Dhoni! Also Anderson and co.

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:14 GMT

    Why oh why do the umpires hate the Indians??? They give the one against Kohli for not playing a shot and now dont give Cook out on 2 shouts...ONE PLUMB in front. And for the life of me I dont know how Ashwin's dimissal and Buttler's dismissal is any different. We really need to stop supplying Umpires with there livelihood. They are utterly useless to us anyway

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:13 GMT

    Indians should not spend time on playing Test Cricket matches.Their good at playing IPL matches in Indian territory.At least they can make some money without getting humiliated.Because while you playing with your own country teams people won't bash at you or they won't burn Cricketers houses.Indians think that they have master class Cricketers but all they have is selfish Cricketers who only think about themselves.I'm really surprised with England teams performance after they got white washed by Sri Lankan team.Glad that England team showed Indians where they really belong,,,,,,,,

  • Ramansilva on August 15, 2014, 17:12 GMT

    India should negotiate for 2 or 3 tests for the Australian tour. Otherwise the embarrasment will be too much to bear.

  • goldeneye075 on August 15, 2014, 17:10 GMT

    Pathetic cricket by India!!! India should learn how to play Test cricket !!! Why do they arrange these 5 Test match series, when they are not comfortable of handling 3 days of test match cricket.. England Should have gone for SA, or SL and arrange a better contest for a full 3 to 4 match series, where as SL did a very good job and showed they are mature to play good Test cricket !!!

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    Indiansrtfan...hmm I think Sri Lankans they are better than Indian team in every format... 90's Indian team were superb those days... but yet again Indian team proved that they were the ultimate FLAT TRACK BULLIES except Dhoni the one who tried to fight back!!!!!!

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    @neil99: That's a fairly good summary. Having won two tests and "bundled out [the opposition] for around 150" in the third, I think the selectors have the right to have "smug grins on their faces" with "I told you so coming from their mouths." However, I don't see how you can possibly align that with your statement that, "We all know Cook should quit..."

    @milepost: The only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner.

  • Giant-Guru on August 15, 2014, 17:07 GMT

    What a shame, what disgrace, once again....without any remorse from the captain MS Dhoni. He scored few runs with all his luck, that's good for him but what about the team.....there is something going on within the team itself that's causing this downfall...and if their nothing within, and its purely top order players who are "Just Used to Playing on Death Lifeless Pitches". Then Fire them...playing at international level requires you to possess skills to play on all sorts of pitches. 90% of our players are over-rated, hyped and given the status of Gods. Lets stop this blind Idol worship...

  • vishwa1111 on August 15, 2014, 17:07 GMT

    kholi and pujara r legends for (indian fans) ...............I can't stop smiling

  • Greatest_Game on August 15, 2014, 17:07 GMT

    England batting at just 1.7 per over? 2 runs in 7 overs? Are they batting for the draw already? Really, I'd expect they might try and go for the win. Can they not chase down a 1st innings of 148?

  • on August 15, 2014, 17:03 GMT

    Same story happened what India experienced recent past. Indian fans almost say that Sri Lankan players are flat track bullies. So You have evidence in front of your eyes how Indian bullies play outside country. Keep it up England. Need another shock ending this as 3-1 lol.

  • rk_ks on August 15, 2014, 17:01 GMT

    Come on India, you can do it. You can lose by an Innings and 300 runs. You can do it. Try your maximum best to lose. And you can do it to bring Robson into form as well.

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:58 GMT

    dhoni is the only men who score run in last two matches

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:49 GMT

    I have to say that the Indians have found extremely new and innovative ways to get out !!

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:49 GMT

    Indians are great .dhoni is awesome ,ishant tip lovely

  • Solid_Snake on August 15, 2014, 16:49 GMT

    I laughed so hard when i heard Ganguly saying that current Indian team has got no experience at all.Surely he is right about that.But what happened when India's most experienced team toured Eng in 2011?So i get it now..India had over-experienced players in that team that's why whole world saw India getting defeated so badly ie 4-0.. Every time India gets defeated,a new excuse comes up.Come on.India just can't play outside India.All of these lame excuses should be stopped here

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:48 GMT

    india should b played its all cricket on its soil,they always seems a c grade team in otherz country,

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:43 GMT

    Unless something dramatic happens to the Indian batting line up between now and the Australian tour, they will be scoring under 100 on Australian wickets. Can't wait to see the Aussie bowlers rip India apart. Maybe tests outside of India should be three day tests for this current side.

  • manojkris on August 15, 2014, 16:43 GMT

    Indians should concentrate more and more on IPL and T20's, very soon even Bangladesh and Zimbabwe will beat them in tests. This shows money can't buy everything, what happened to their star batsman Kholi, not even a single half century in 9 innings, only a one day/T20 specialist. With such a massive Cricket loving population to boast about but still can't find 11 decent players to compete in international level.

  • Front_foot_cyber_bully_aka_Milepost on August 15, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    @ milepost

    We all know Cook should quit, but he won't. England are back to winning wAys (well 2 out of 12 tests) and everything is just rosy. The opposition is being bundled out for around 150, and the selectors have kicked back with smug grins on their faces and "I told you so" coming from their mouths. However, when Cook has failed in the World Cup, been blasted by Australia and then smashed by SA due to him leading the side in 2 formats through one of the busiest periods ever we might just see a different captain.

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:36 GMT

    Now I know this is going to sound radical, but will this prompt India to prepare different pitches domestically for their Home tests? (as well as putting more emphasis on First class cricket, and less on T20?)

    Or does this reinforce the idea that India must prepare flat tracks, with no assistance for bowlers, if they are to have any chance at all, going forward?

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:36 GMT

    Still watching, hoping for miracle from our bowling dept

  • IndianSRTfan on August 15, 2014, 16:35 GMT

    Gotta feel for Dhoni the batsman here. He has been the most consistent batsman for India. I'd much rather have him in my team than someone else purely for his guts Vijay. Rahane have petered out and Pujara, Kohli have had horrid time. Gambhir shouldn't have been in the squad let alone first XI.

    Love the way some Sri lankan fans keep talking down and asserting that their team is better than India. Lol! Just shows how those regular thrashings by India and that WC 2011 loss hurt them.

  • yogicoolboy on August 15, 2014, 16:35 GMT

    Well played Dhoni. He was saving grace for India.If only top order had done well could have got a respectable score.

  • Roshan_P on August 15, 2014, 16:32 GMT

    It's a testament to Dhoni's strength and determination that he had carried the innings through past 100 yet again. He may not have a Test match technique, but he can certainly scrap and fight along with the lower order. If Dhoni, with a poor technique, can do OK in these conditions then why can't the top order? I suppose Dhoni doesn't face the new ball at the beginning of the innings much though.

    It's a little disappointing though, that England did not manage to get India out for less than 100. The same can be said of the first innings in the last Test. They need to keep their foot on the accelerator and skittle the lower order out quickly.

  • dipusahoo on August 15, 2014, 16:31 GMT

    India again failed to put a good total.Only Dhoni has kept our honour.Will be quiet disappointed if india loses the series.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 15, 2014, 16:30 GMT

    Gosh, you'd think the game was already over reading such sour comments. Don't you all realise England haven't batted yet? I'm nervous; 148 could be unassailable for England.

    Well played Dhoni; well bowled England. Now let's see how England do batting against perhaps the strongest bowling line-up India have fielded all series.

  • AltafPatel on August 15, 2014, 16:29 GMT

    Dhoni playes worthless innings only when game already over for India.

  • Retour on August 15, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    Ind needs to restrict Eng to under 200. This is where a 4th pacer/seamer would have been more useful than a bits and pieces player like Binny. With 4 pacers, you can constantly rotate the bowlers to keep the pressure on the batsmen w/o tiring the bowlers out.

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:27 GMT

    Erm how does anybody figure that Sri lanka do better than India overseas??? We won the Champions trophy in England and demolished them in the process. We won our last overseas test series 3 years ago true. But Sri lanka's last series win abroad before England is.....so far back I dont even remember. 3 years dont define India's record overseas....we were horrible before the 90s and after that to 2011 take a look. We havent won much but we certainly were not humiliations. Cant say the same for Sri Lanka

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    If India do not practice on hard tops and continue playing most of their cricket on dirt tracks, why do they try to compete in England? With technology at hand, India needs to create hard top pitches at home to gear their batting/bowling on such surfaces. History will keep repeating itself unless something is done. Even our best batsmen of this generation cannot cope. They should also play county cricket as some of our older generation of players did however, the lure of money generated by the IPL keeps them at home and hence the saga goes on.

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:23 GMT

    Let them say what ever they want...I really proud of u dhoni as a captain nd as a batsman as well. ...u r a true warrior. .not like cook....first bowlers used to let u down now batsmans also. .but u r always there..

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:21 GMT

    Wish we had six Dhonis in out top order!

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 16:21 GMT

    @neil99: You say, "To defend India, a modicum, the pitch is an absolute disgrace." Garbage! You can't blame the pitch for India's abysmal performance with the bat, particularly when Dhoni seems to have mastered it.

  • pratit on August 15, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    What a pathetic batting display. The fact that Dhoni, with his limited technique, has played so well further points to the lack of application by the specialist batsmen. And the selection of Gautam Gambhir has to be one of the biggest blunders. Shikhar was at least negotiating the initial few overs. Gambhir seems to have brought back the ghosts of 2011. At the beginning of the tour, I thought bowling was going to be the problem. I never thought batting would be such a headache.

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:18 GMT

    Can we accept for one Pujara isnt great and so isnt Kohli and keep the expectations to bare minimum?And Pakistan lost a game in two days when their match total for 2 innings was 112 in 2002.

  • milepost on August 15, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    Wow, Auatralia are going to smash India and then England next summer. They won't even break a sweat. Cook can have 2 whitewashes on his CV as captain, if he doesn't quit after this test like he should.

  • PSLongia on August 15, 2014, 16:13 GMT

    Indian team has rightly choose 15th August date for tragic display...they are just reminding the indians that we simply cannot beat britishers

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on August 15, 2014, 16:12 GMT

    In one of my comments after the 4th test, I hoped England would beat us real bad in the final test. I was aghast at Dhoni's lackadaisical comment - "what is the difference whether you lose in 3 days or 5 days, a loss is a loss". Am glad it's happening again. Looks like Dhoni doesn't see the difference between a highly contested loss vs a loss like a school team! Good for him but not good for Indian Cricket nor the followers of Indian Cricket. Where's Umesh? Why Gambhir? Why not Wasim Jaffer and why not keep going back to Zaheer and all of that nonsense? Let us look ahead and win or lose with inexperienced players but not with players who are well over the hill. Let's have 4 genuine pacers and a good spinner (preferably wrist spinner) abroad. Shall we? At least now, can we sack Dhoni and Fletcher please?

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:12 GMT

    dhoni & men plz come back home we r missing u let's play ipl & clt20. it was our mistake to send u people again to england after 0-4 whitewash of 2011

  • on August 15, 2014, 16:09 GMT

    Playing a test match is a great honor. Dhoni and the team management has allowed their negativism cloud judgment - bringing Binny was bad enough. Some of the frontline batsmen must spend time in Ranji and Duleep trophy matches before they can tour Australia. A win against West Indies in placid Indian tracks shall obscure judgments on performance.

  • 6pack on August 15, 2014, 16:09 GMT

    This india batting line up is woeful... absolutely no fight. Thought Kohli was a decen batter, but an average of 12 tells you he may just be another indian flat track bully. In comparison the Sri Lankans showed way more heart in beating this same English side earlier this summer. Poor show!

  • manojkris on August 15, 2014, 16:01 GMT

    This Indian side is a laughing stock in overseas conditions specially without Dhoni. Sri lankans do perform much better than this generally whenever they travel.

  • Abam on August 15, 2014, 16:01 GMT

    This people are insulting our country. Shameless fellows, just pathetic. Only fit to play in flat tracks at home. The 2011 team is far better than this even though they lost 0-4. India better stop playing cricket, rather than giving such a dismissal performance.

  • cric1965 on August 15, 2014, 15:54 GMT

    Now Indian fans also lost their interesr regarding series because of the way Indian team performing. Virat Kohli after 9 innings scored 114 @average of12.66. He has repeatedly failed in English soil and expose his techmical faults to cricketing world. Now how he perform in ODI is the Challege.

  • Front_foot_cyber_bully_aka_Milepost on August 15, 2014, 15:45 GMT

    To defend India, a modicum, the pitch is an absolute disgrace. Why groundsmen/county grounds can't produce a decent track that offers assistance to bat and ball alike, with true bounce and some carry is bewildering or is it? Clearly the ECB heavily influenced this pitch and that at a Lords, which were very uncharacteristic of those grounds. The administrators are robbing the public blind. Again.

  • Karunk on August 15, 2014, 15:44 GMT

    Hurray! We made it past 50 overs and 100 runs by tea time.… at least our captain is showing he can use his experience to hang around even if that is by hook or crook.

  • spot_on on August 15, 2014, 15:44 GMT

    Embarrassed again! I'd have happily taken a 0-5 humiliation. Mitch will be licking his paws now down under.

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:44 GMT

    It's pretty obvious Indians can't bat on green pitches and they are running out of excuses . So called administration try to re write the game of cricket with their $$ . Pathetic performance from a team who has access to all sort of things .

  • StatisticsRocks on August 15, 2014, 15:41 GMT

    This is unacceptable. Why none of the batsmen show any application. They must learn from their women counterpart who are showing better fight and may even end up winning the first test match. I am switching to watching Eng Women vs IND women.

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:39 GMT

    will Moeenalitharan get the ball at all.........?

  • dabhand on August 15, 2014, 15:38 GMT

    desiboy - when Indian fanboys spend all their time ahead of the series crowing that they will win 5-0 or immediately after winning one test crow they will thrash England in the remaining ones - what do you expect ?

  • thalagune on August 15, 2014, 15:37 GMT

    big bluffing overrated indian team going down the drain,very pleased..

  • Giant-Guru on August 15, 2014, 15:35 GMT

    What are the Indian selector's doing??? What is the captain so called 'Cool' doing, well answer for the latter, is that he was busy learning skills at a firing range....probably thought those skills would be required when he face the Indian media and the fans on return to India.

    The Indian team needs complete overhaul, this is not even a 50 overs format team, they get all out much before that.....these are a bunch of T-20 players. BCCI must take a serious note of Dhoni's comments "we got 2 days more of rest" after loosing 4th test and today's "process is more important than results" so its clear that he is not playing for results, he is least bothered about winning.

    Fire such a captain whose adamant nature has done enough damage to Indian cricket, BCCI must revamp the camp. Select a team of players who has a big appetite for runs and love for the game. Dhoni must go, say good bye to Gambhir, and rest Kohli, Dhawan and Pujara..let them correct their game to make a comeback.

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:34 GMT

    I am lost for words here.... Playing with some character and losing is acceptable... But not succumbing without an iota of fight.! Seems lopsided..!

    We are Homo Sapien Sapiens because we have an unique quality of learning from our past mistakes, but if renowned heroes of Indian cricket keep repeating them...

    As I already said, I am lost for words..!

  • Iceman29 on August 15, 2014, 15:34 GMT

    I say lets bring our women team to play against England...am sure they will play far better than these guys...stop humiliating my country plsss.....

  • Jaganplus on August 15, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    India has been loosing test in 2 days. They have much work to do. They need to bring it's closure to 1 day. That is India's forte.

    We know test matches are hardship, if you calculate the pay by hours it's probably not even minimum wage. Specially when you are India since they have to be on-field a lot. Is that really fair?

    With this forward looking indian team, once the 1 day target is achieved, they can aim for wrapping up matches in 20-20.

  • Dhanno on August 15, 2014, 15:29 GMT

    @ Speng and few others defending Gambhir. what domestic cricket form are you talking about ? Its the Ranji games, Gambhir has done, nothing, nada, zilch in domestic cricket. IPL is not domestic cricket, its a show business run by few corporations. Even there, Gambhir has been in poor form. Gambhir's selection is same as having RP singh made to play 4th test in last series in England. The first day report of that 4th test match (where RP played) says (and I am quoting) "The way they started today, it seemed they were desperate to avoid playing at any cost." 3 years down the line, nothing is changed. And it comes to whom you select to play and how you lead this team as well. Dhoni was arrogant enough to field RP then and this tour we have seen selection of worse candidates: Gambhir, Binny/jadeja circus, IPL hero but third class spinner in Ashwin. And he had is hands bound by not bringing the better players on the tour. So accept it when blame is rested on captain and his cohorts in mess.

  • rattansharma on August 15, 2014, 15:23 GMT

    India should try new opening pair consisting of m.vijay and Rahane.ms Dhoni should bat at no.4 kohli and pujara should be sent at no.6and 7respectively in the second inning of the match.It is better to try new ideas in lieu of repeated collapse.

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:23 GMT

    As a neutral's perspective I really fail to understand the logic behind MSDs constant criticism by Indian fans and completely ignoring the fact that Kohli's lack of runs is one of the major reasons India is behind in the series. I do admit the top order didnt have much overseas experience but so much was expected of Kohli and his BIG FAILURES have lead me to believe MSD doesnt deserve to be made the scapegoat here... look who is there for India rite now... He has been the lone worrier as far as Indian batting is concerned.... I also think some of his selection policies especially persisting with Jadeja were completely wrong but he isnt the reason why India is in such shambles

  • SatishTembey on August 15, 2014, 15:22 GMT

    It is really astonishing that Broad is playing with a fractured nose, also Anderson. Bowled inspire of sickness. Broad mentioned in his interview that he will bowl with fractured nose. Wonder seriousness of Ishant Sharma's injury. After test victory in 2nd test, his noun participation has let pressure off from English men. Who influence such participation - injured player or captain?

  • rk_ks on August 15, 2014, 15:22 GMT

    Where are the people who told to open with Rahane or Ashwin because their batting seems to be technically more sounded.

  • balaji28 on August 15, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    Gautam gambhir-I like to ask him on what basis Gauti is selected in test squad,the reasons might be for playing horribly in irani trophy and give his team rest of india lose by an innings and also for playing horribly in ranji trophy and getting delhi knocked out in group stage. Virat kohli-I always call him one time wonder and even his one time wonder hasn't worked out in english soil better drop him from test team for God's sake. Pujara-Totally showed his weakness and always shows his stumps regularly and there is no reason for keeping him in the test team. Shikhar Dhawan-Whatever shots he tries ends up miserably and his off stump line weakness have proved in english soil and there should be no test future for him. Jaddu and stuart binny-Just one word for them-Bits and pieces all rounders and I don't know how the made it to the squad. Rohit sharma-I doubt his selection into the squad and he hasn't done justice to make it to the squad. Dhoni-Please step down from the test captaincy

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:20 GMT

    "How about bringing some Indian Women cricketers here, they are doing good so far at Wormsley." Spot on, John - they're 43 for 0 in their second innings, chasing 181 to win the Test. Shame.

  • qfriend2 on August 15, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    what a great batting performance by the world's best batting. This is magnificent, worlds best batting side fails consecutively 4th time. Hats off

  • fr600 on August 15, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    Hahaha, awesomeness from Englishmen, showing people places they belong to.

  • BeatTheChamps on August 15, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    @Charan Kumar Singh: India should lose not only this test match but also the one dayers. ODI victory is also enough to make them forget the load of rubbish they have dished out in the test series

  • SatishTembey on August 15, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    Is it good bowling or bad batting, lack of technique. It is clearly lack of technique and such flaws should have been noticed by the experts. So while doing thorough analysis, caliber of selectors should be properly studied. Also I am not sure same players will play against West Indies in India and will go to Australia and then ....... more humiliation.

  • Iceman29 on August 15, 2014, 15:11 GMT

    The selectors, Dhoni and the coach should take responsibility for these shameless defeats...HAVE THEY NOT LEARNED ANYTHING FROM PREVIOUS TOURS?? How long these guys will humiliate our country?? What is BCCI going to do about this?? Am sure this loosing trend will continue until we make fast and bouncy pitches...

  • desiboy454 on August 15, 2014, 15:11 GMT

    All India bashers are at it again... Agreed this is such a poor show from India, I too am very disappointing. I also do not like my own board (BCCI), but why hate the players so much. Did they ask for IPL? Did they say give us advertising and money. When they were young, money in cricket was just starting to flow. Saying they are flat track bullies is ignorant on your parts. Virat/ Pujara/ Rahane all performed well, I know they didnt average 50 plus but they maintained 40 plus there and scored 100s. I agree and will agree, Indian seamers are not world class, they lack the bite for tests. ricky ponting's his record in India was poor, but he is still a great. These players are playing first time in England, and I m sure next time they are in England they will do much better. As for being WC holder, WE ARE THE HOLDERS! I bet we make it to the final 4 of the WC15. All you bashers hate the money and power we have.. The world is changing so live with it! #INDIA#POWER

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    I hope India gives a chance to Pakistan to play a test series. so, our bowlers could come back in form. Thanks

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    I hope India gives a chance to Pakistan to play a test series. so, our bowlers could come back in form. Thanks

  • sl_supporter on August 15, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    India, see what your IPL circus has done to you!

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:07 GMT

    Big_poppa_1994 That folks is what happens to test cricket with ms dhoni as captain.

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:07 GMT

    Oh yeah fellow Lankan fans are having a party here!!!!

  • nbajaria on August 15, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    Well said Faisal Saeed. Agree with you mate

  • y4yoga on August 15, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    Evryone failed and the only man standing(fighting) was MSD... Everyone sthrow stones at MSD.... oh thats right... simple Indian mentality, someone needs to be blamed thats right its MSD, Team India wins Everyone stand in front of MSD, Team India Lose everyone hides behind MSD...

  • rajnet2 on August 15, 2014, 15:05 GMT

    What you call these players FUTURE of the Indian Team, they all are product of IPL where only slam bang theory works, same is in their blood, They dont know how to play cricket. dhawan, jadeja, Rohit, Murli, they all are IPL product. They don't know importance of their wicket, they only believe in IPL's theory of slam bang. Bring oldies, like Viru. I think Dhawan, Jadeja, and others are try emulate Viru's plaiyng technique, but they don't know Viru gives very much importance to his wicket, and being aggressive, always gives importance to his wicket. If all are failing why don't bring Viru to team.

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:05 GMT

    Ishants drop could be a turning point in the game .Bell what have you done .

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 15:00 GMT

    @Praveen Shavindra Muthuthanthri: I don't normally post in response to other contributors

    You said: "Give a flat batting track Indian batsman will score more than any other team in the world. Simple fact."

    I say, wrong: During the last test series in India these were the run aggregates:

    India: 1959

    England: 2314

    Now I must admit to having the advantage of a maths degree, but surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to establish who scored more runs on those sub-continental "flat batting tracks."

  • on August 15, 2014, 15:00 GMT

    As an Indian fan I am sincerely hoping India lose this match, coz if, by a huge stroke of luck, they manage to win this match, suddenly everything about Indian cricket would become alright. No, I hope they lose, and they lose badly, coz they are so bad, they deserve it and also so that thepowers-that-be takes note of this and at least TRY to do something about it.

  • Greatest_Game on August 15, 2014, 14:59 GMT

    England are in trouble now! All her is going to break loose. At 95/9 Ishant has them just where he wants them!

  • y4yoga on August 15, 2014, 14:59 GMT

    MSD was absent in the 2 days practice session, everyone else were present. Today at the crease everyone is absent except MSD. Bizzare

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:58 GMT

    Woman team is better than shamless men team....

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    I think we Indian fans should stay away from these greatest players while they are touring, as simple as that....

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    Its strange that we still believe in playing only n only on Flat Pitch's...if not then just one word "LETS GIVE UP", and call Opp Team back to India n play on flat pitch's and pay them back...so funny.

    Lets agree the fact that, our Team needs more n more exposure on foriegn soils, as next WC in not on flat pitch's....so its Wake up time guys...!

    We cant see ur head down....!

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:51 GMT

    Pakistan batsman are playing well and they are not playing ipl ..just the players are not focused on the game ,just bcoz of bcci paying to much money to the players ....

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:51 GMT

    Free advice to the Indian Cricket Board, Since you are part of the Big Three so you can act on this advise without any problems. Try not to include away series outside the subcontinent. The Kohlis, Rahanes, Pujaras e.t.c can only bat on dead and flat Indian pitches only. And oh yeah try to arrange 5 test match home series against Zimbabwe so that all the batting records spoiled in England can be rectified in India against them. :) What a shame really, these are the World Champions.

  • ToTellUTheTruth on August 15, 2014, 14:50 GMT

    Hey Indian cricket team!!! Don't worry about the so-called humiliation that England subjected you and your fans. When you come home, we have that CLT20 circus waiting to kick off and you will once again become darlings. GO CSK...GO KXIP!!!! Hoorayyyyy!!!!

    Yeah, we just don't care about how we play test cricket...do we?

  • Bj289 on August 15, 2014, 14:48 GMT

    I do agree with @Ravinder Deol with due respect to Ms.Dhoni but there are many favourites who think they can't be dropped despite of having 'No Performance'.

  • rk_ks on August 15, 2014, 14:47 GMT

    Even Chris Jordan and Woakes were brought into form. No other sporting nation could do this except India. Who told Indian team is weak, they are are very strong in making out of form teams gain super form. Look into history and it proves again. Out of form teams should play against India to regain their form.

  • franciscan_educated on August 15, 2014, 14:47 GMT

    Its really astonishing that Indian batsmen after many decades are still susceptible to the moving ball. Without sugar coating," Indian Batsmen can only flourish in their own home conditions". Its an unfortunate truth that Indian fans have to accept and live on. Keep expectations at the minimum, anticipate the worst and accept a bonus if the team actually performs well. During the recent SriLanka Vs England tour, we saw the visiting SriLankans adapt quite beautifully after the initial hiccups. You could see a positive energy in that team. Something the body language of this team just shows the opposite of. I have been researching recent successes in the Indian domestic circuit and what really stands out is the performance of the Karnataka side. They seem to have won every domestic trophy there is. The side does not have too many big names yet they had a grit. My research revealed the Captain Vinay who has played a few International games was instrumental. Get him to lead this team.

  • lillee4PM on August 15, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    This match was lost before the toss. MSD very negative saying, "it's not about the result but about the process." This is all too hard for these guys, they have hit the self-destruct button and conceded defeat!

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    I think the issue with indian team is their preparation. When SL toured they arrived early to get acclamatised to weather and Sanga joined Durham to play 2 county games and recruited a consultant for the series also practiced with Duke cricket ball before leaving. I dont think Indians prepared that much

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:43 GMT

    @sujith-whats the purpose of beating WI if you cant win a match against ENG...shows the class of your team..real bad...

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    don't worry after this tour just call new Zealand, Bangladesh or Zimbabwe for a home series and rectify you records

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    That holiday was not enough thats y they want to finish this match in hurry too .

  • Orioles on August 15, 2014, 14:39 GMT

    This Indian team will be facing Mitchell and co. in few months time...Hope to see some new records in the form of lowest totals and worst batting averages..All these players should stop playing IPL if they want to do well in Test matches...

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    That's why they need all these weird rules so that they will still be able to play matches even after they loose almost every matches overseas, nobody will question them.

  • Bj289 on August 15, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    I do agree with @Ravinder Deol with due respect to Ms.Dhoni but there are many favourites who think they can't be dropped despite of having 'No Performance'.

  • cktspirit on August 15, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    I see what Dhoni means by sticking to processes irrespective of the results. It is packed series, so why not finish matches in 3 days and have extra two days off, good thoughts..

    Comes with an added advantage, no single player to pick on, wow...

  • Coolcapricorn on August 15, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    MSD said be believed more in the process than the result before the match - don't know if this process involved planning for a procession of his batsmen back to the pavilion after playing pathetically!!!

  • rk_ks on August 15, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    India deserve this. You should learn from your mistakes. Unfortunately we Indians never do that. Looks like Dhoni and team will not even look into where it is going wrong. At least they should see previous footage's to identify what is going wrong and how to tackle a bowler. They always relax and think about keeping the dressing room environment happy. And the coach biggest failure of all in the whole decade, he was a coach for England once and he don't know 1% of the pitch and how it behaves. They deserve to lose more badly than this.

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:32 GMT

    Give a sporting wicket and Indian batsman will be worse than Bangladesh. Give a flat batting track Indian batsman will score more than any other team in the world. Simple fact.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on August 15, 2014, 14:32 GMT

    India are still ICC World Champions and to me that is the only thing that matters. Winning a Test match is as pointless as the now defunct European Cup Winners Cup.

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    only India is able to lose a test match within 3 days, never in the history SL or Pakistan has lost a test match within 3 days, The way indians play they can even try to finish this in 2 days.

  • rsrs1981 on August 15, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    Stop Blaming the Coach and Captain for Indian Team Performances , for god sake these are bunch of professional cricket players they don't need a coach or captain to tell them how to play, coach or captain can only lay out a strategy its up to individuals to execute it, if the players are incapable of executing the plans they are not worth being in a national team calling themselves as professional cricketers. Though i do agree the strategy set up by coach/captain team as a whole was dreadful too

  • chechong0114 on August 15, 2014, 14:29 GMT

    Once again we are seeing the effects of a tired and overworked bunch of cricketers and as is the norm scores of disgusted comments from Indian fans. If there was ever a time in Dhoni's career that he has to speak up the time is now. Its really funny that none of the retired stars like Dravid and Ganguly have anything to say about the excessive work load that the Indians have and what effect it is having on their cricketers I guess they too do not care. Or maybe they are not as educated as I initially thought they were. All of a sudden now in the media all these praises for the English team and its players, calling Anderson a genius, this same team was coming in for heavy criticism after the series loss to Sri Lanka and the test loss to India at Lords, now they are best thing ever. They are taking credit for beating up on a tired, depleted and over worked Indian team and as if this is not enough another huge series await the Indians after this with the West Indies, absolutely horrible.

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:27 GMT

    It's useless to offer any comments now. This all happened because of the four-bowler strategy adopted for the third test. It not only set the tone for England but also broke the backbone of team India. In the ongoing test nothing is more pathetic than the attitude of the players and loss of self-confidence. The result seems to be on cards now. It's all about the paper tigers that turn unprofessional overseas.

  • sujithM on August 15, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    india will rise again no matter what!!!

    you just have to give them a perfect flat pitch!!!!

    then dhoni will be the best captain ever. dhawan will be the best opener. and kholi will be the best chaser. and india will be the best team in the world again!!!

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    Alright all so called Indian Fans .... Lets all put the blame on Dhoni again. It's totally his fault right? A captain is only as good as his players. Dhoni is here to stay as a player at least for 2 more years at least

    My suggestion, India need to pick players on current form rather than past Glory moving forward. Pujara and Kholi can't even get runs in IPL on flat tracks let alone try making runs on bouncy, swinging tracks. Gambhir's days as a Test cricketer are all but over after this Test match. Oh how Sachin, Dravid and Co looked so good in the past. If only India can appoint some of these Greats as Indian mentors/Coach rather than an old school Fletcher.

  • BBSBEC on August 15, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    Indian Cricket Fans this Anger is Just of Few Weeks for Your Team .. WEST INDIES Series is Around the corner . these Batsman will score tons off Runs Against WEST INDIES and Team Dhoni Will be happy again ...

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:25 GMT

    Wow... I am just amazed by the consistent performance by the indian batsmen... they all are making 6/66 consistently quite easily again and again. only the world class batters can do that... really Appriciated...

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:25 GMT

    People. What's with the harsh criticism? They are already getting better. They were 8/4 last match. This time they are 28/4. At least 20 runs more runs, right? And hey we always have Dhoni to blame for everything right? It's not like top order batsmen are failing because they're playing bad. It's because of Dhoni. 79/8 as I write this and Bhuvi Gone. But hey we are already getting better right?

  • sal7 on August 15, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    @Santanu Banerjee: Yeah, let us blame Dhoni! I'd like to say a lot more, but words elude me! Suffice it to say that Dhoni is the only world class.. no, THE ONLY ONE in this PATHETIC Indian lineup who deserves to be in the team, barring a few off course. But that's OK, sack him, SEE IF HE CARES! "GOOD RIDDANCE" is what you will find him saying. He'll climb higher mountains without these DUCKS holding him down, that's for sure.

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    Imdia is playing too defensive. need to open up

  • Seamer_Singh on August 15, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    You can say England bowled well, but for the batsman to crumble 4 innings in a row and probably a fifth is just beyond belief!

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:21 GMT

    I think India should declare now. At least we can save that much time.???

  • abhyudayj on August 15, 2014, 14:20 GMT

    The indian team performance is not up mark,batting and bowling is not accurate,the team look to workout for long term otherwise it will be tough to imagine in win in overseas condition

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    really shameful performance by India... time to drop gambhir... they really need a good opener alongside vijay... what s just going wrong with pujara and kohli? the bcci would do well to send these batsmen to play for a couple of seasons in county cricket ... their ego and the craze for the IPL will soon send India to the bottom of test rankings soon ! and please remove dhoni the captain after this series..

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    Now Indian fans have u realized the Diffrence B/W Ganguly and MSD . He kept on picking the Players that are not GOOD Enough Overseas . Plz WE Want To see Team INdia Not Team Dhoni . 4-5 Playes inthis team are of Cofidence that we can Do whatever we want on creicket Field we can't Be Dropped.

  • heretic on August 15, 2014, 14:18 GMT

    May be the Indian top order batsman didn't get the memo - guys this is Test no T20!

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 14:12 GMT

    I posted earlier to the effect that English county cricket is lo longer a finishing school for undercooked, inexperienced foreign players. Perhaps the young Indian cricketers should come over and play for free in the Leagues to get some experience. If it was good enough for the likes of Michael Holding it should be good enough for them. One of the problems here is that no Indian player currently in the team has ever played a 5 test series; I stand to be corrected on that but I believe it to be true. As to their cumulative cricket experience:

    Tests: 319 matches

    ODI: 775 matches

    T20I/T20: 1431 matches

    They're just not test-savvy.

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:11 GMT

    If they bat first, its the bounce and swing, and in the second innings, its Ali's so called spin.

  • AltafPatel on August 15, 2014, 14:08 GMT

    India's batting made all calculations by Laxman wrong. He told this is going to be high scoring match, I am watching score 68/7 right now !

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:06 GMT

    I think India needs a change in leadership..A Matthews would be awesome, with an average over 80 in the tests as a captain..

  • on August 15, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    dhoni going to rest for three days now

  • heretic on August 15, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    Unbelievably pathetic batting performance by India! What the hell...heads need to roll - these guys are professionals and need to do their jobs in any condition! I am not allowed to have an off season where I am allowed to get things wrong!

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:52 GMT

    India has collapsed once again it will be wise to try a new and revised batting order in second inning other wise there will be no fun to watch a procession of the top order.In my opinion this may be due to T-20.india should cultivate a new crop of test players keeping away them from Island circus cricket.After all it is a matter of national pride.

  • Binny128 on August 15, 2014, 13:52 GMT

    I think whenever India travels out of sub-continent, we should only pick Opening Batsmen. Like 6 openers, 1 wicket keeper and 4 bowlers, because most of the time, all batsmen face new ball. Might turn out to be a master stroke ;)

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:48 GMT

    The writing is already on the wall in very 1st.session of 1st.days play.India has started where they had left off in Manchester,as we had expected. As I write the 6th.wicket has fallen with the score at only 44. Tough decisions have to be taken asap by BCCI .SACK DUNCAN FLETCHER & ASK DHONI TO STEP DOWN AS CAPTAIN OF TEST SIDE AT LEAST!! We wont miss him, for Tests at least !! He can remain Captain of 1 Day & T20 teams. We have such a celebrated wise entourage of India's past cricketers covering the series,big names as ex-Capt.Sourav Ganguly,Kapil Dev,Dravid,Shastri,Manjrekar,Arun-Lal,even Wasim Akram who look on in helpless bewilderment, at the continuous meek surrender by Indian batsmen in each of their past 4 innings in England.I feel they are just wasting their precious time in England covering such a hopeless and uninspired Indian team ,who make all their money in IPL and relax when it comes to Test .cricket.These wise men instead should nudge BCCI to select a New Test Team.

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:46 GMT

    we love u india no matter what!!! Jai Hind!! India is the best ever!!!!

  • Front_foot_cyber_bully_aka_Milepost on August 15, 2014, 13:45 GMT

    @jb63

    Indian players used to play in county cricket, however there is too much international cricket. Why fringe players don't come over here is unknown - maybe the impact of IPL which clashes with some of the county season. Maybe the BCCI should start a placement program.

    Plus, did you miss the last series in India where England won? So the reverse would not necessarily happen in India.

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    indian batsmen does nt know how to play in bouncy track.....they should nt play test cricket anymore....play odi n t20

  • mensan on August 15, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    Just poor cricket from Indian batsmen. They are falling like nine pins. I don't think this side is in rebuilding phase. The top order has lot of experience. They must show some fight.

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:42 GMT

    Okay Now Indian Cricket fans.. Now lets blame Dhoni..put every of your frustrations right upon him..yes his test captaincy is not upto the marks but That's what we do best when India lose, whether the bowlers underperform or the batsmen.. That man as a batsmen at least doesnt throw away his wickets.. Keeps taking blows on the body knowing that way he wont get out.. India just dont have it to win overseas test..God Save India.....

  • Retour on August 15, 2014, 13:42 GMT

    Usually in a long test series, you would have a couple of batsmen who have got big scores. To say that India's batting backbone Pujara and Kohli have failed to get going is an understatement. With this kind of batting form, the question about whether to play an extra batsman is moot. On the current form, the batting, irrespective of extra batsman, looks good to score around 250 runs if it doesn't have a extremely bad day like today. And something around 250 would be a low score in most conditions. So Ind will have to focus on getting the opposition out cheaply too, i.e. need to play wicket taking bowlers.

    Anyways, every cloud has a silver lining. Hopefully this will mark the end of Dhoni's era in tests.

  • whirlaway on August 15, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    Revised goals for second session:

    India: Somehow get to 100.

    England: Score 30-0 after getting India all out for less than 80.

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    Big three ,big test ,big lost ??

  • depp1417 on August 15, 2014, 13:36 GMT

    whats wrong with our Team, we did well in 1st test ,won at lords..the big names ,gambhir,kohli ,pujara , have they forgot to bat , they all have played here in A team tours and know English conditions well, so why our emotions are been made mockery we were hopeful this young team will win but know they are left to again save their faces, Why dhoni have to save face all the time for us, let us think we have duncan fletcher as coach what the hell is he doing, what is role of dravid as batting expert, this way we dont think Dhoni will win down under or defend his last world cup next year,,we have dominated english team from 90's but now again a disappointment and we need to wait for another 4 years and thnik virat kohli will help us in series win..

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:35 GMT

    Dhoni has to understand if defence is not working then must adopt 20 - 20 Formate style. In any way we have never scorred more then 150 runs in the inning in last couple of innings.

  • cricchanel.com on August 15, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    A poor perfomance of India again, I was not expecting so in this test match. I think we must consider either there is something really bad in team management. I mean to say either there is any lack of captaincy or fight for captaincy.

  • AltafPatel on August 15, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    Dhoni have to play in this match not as a captain, but as batsman too. Will this be final series for Dhoni and Fletcher, or Aus tour will be the final to close the chapter of away defeat with white-wash !?

  • Rajnish_aggarwal on August 15, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    Mostly all Indian batsmen follow Rahul Dravid of later years when he had aged and become very tentative.. All batsmen are side on and do not move backfoot which actually helps in double defense. Particularly Virat Kohli must change to 50% of Chandrapaul's stance then only his backfoot shall hold the pitch and allow front foot to be in the right place after ball is hurled towards him. Why dont Indians try something different. Orthodox batsmen are getting out more and more wrong footed while unorthodox batsman Dhoni is able to hold the fort and put up some fight. Ashwin and B kumar are able to survive because they move both feet and their front foot is extended enough and lands at right place in the line of the ball. Gambhir was rewarded for doing nothing while Dhawan is left out. As far as lack of confidence talks, these are the same batsmen who had scored big runs earlier so it ia rubbish talk. So do it differently and for some time send B Kumar and Ashwin to play new ball.

  • Charlie101 on August 15, 2014, 13:25 GMT

    India is like England in a rebuilding phase but the problem I see is that Indian players are selected on their ODI and IPL performances. Gambhir should not have been any where near the squad but was selected on his impressive IPL performance. BCCI has plenty of money and they need to take a number of batsmen from the Ranji trophy and subsidise them to play in the English County cricket or Lancashire League to develop rather than earning a fast buck in the IPL . In the same way the ECB need to push a number of our young players into the IPL for England to have a chance in the T20 world cups going forward. I can see India reversing the momentum when the ODI and T20 series start .

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    Indian Cricketers couldn't have given a better gift to fellow Indians celebrating India\s Independence Day today, on 1st.day of the 5th.& Final test at the Oval,by absolutely falling apart ,& tottering at 43/5 , by lunch, in just 2 hrs. of days play. Must say an improvement over the last session of play at Old Trafford where they lost all 9 wickets and lost the match by an innings. Here at least there was a slight improvemet they ONLY LOST 5 WICKETS in a single session !!! Absolutely appaling, to say the least. Indian batsmen dont seem to have done their homework since the last 2 tests, especially Kohli & rahane,getting out regularly in similar fashion. Its sad to see Indian Test Cricket slowly dying out due to IPL hype in India.Time for the big guns Kohli, Gambhir,Jadeja,Dhoni to focus on shorter format & make way for serious Test cricketers sitting back home as Wasim Jaffer,Sanju Samson,Uthappa & co.India simply have so much talent back home that we need new faces in the team now!

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    india wins only in India. Dhoni has to left captaincy of india. now to much loses

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:12 GMT

    what a disgusting display of batting by india!! But i loved India loosing :D

  • cvenka on August 15, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    the one & only reason for the poor performance of india is the poor & over defensive starts by the openers especially vijay. if he dont know how to score a boundary from opening bowlers, then he would better step down & leave the place to some good stroke players like uttappa. how i feel sehwag should been playing here instead of strokeless wonders like vijay & gambhir

  • SAF-Fan-no-1 on August 15, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    My word biggining of Series - KOHLI.,PuJARA, DHAWAN, GHAMBHIR - they can't and never do good in England. IPL player name and fame player can't do any thing on Subcontinantal. These are player should dropped the side and get Wasim Jaffer Nephew 17 Years Old lad. Get Naman Ojah, GET Viru Back in side. Atlist he can break bowler's form. Hurry...Inida ..........GO ENGLAND Hard on INDIA.......GOOD LUCK for ENGLAND.

  • SridharKalyan on August 15, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    A pathetic display by Indians - I tuned in to see if there will be a sense of pride and a fight-back, but it was not to be. Rahane has forgotten the basic rule of keeping the head down; Kohli still believes his macho body-language alone will do; less said about Gambhir's current form,the better it is. Why, why are we being subjected to this?

  • whirlaway on August 15, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    Session 2 goals for the two teams:

    India: Take score past 100-120 without losing any more wickets.

    England: Get at least 3 more wickets before India total reaches 100-120.

  • yogicoolboy on August 15, 2014, 13:03 GMT

    I think you cant be too harsh on Gambhir, As he is comming back after a long lay off. Openers arent seeing off the new ball at all, thereby exposing pujara and virat early.

  • whirlaway on August 15, 2014, 13:02 GMT

    Remember that even with DRS, the Kohli dismissal would have been ruled "Unmpire's Call". And the umpire's call was "out LBW".

  • on August 15, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    England bowlers have to try to get doni out as soon as possible. The bowlers seem to be wasting some deliveries by bowling them wide of the off or leg stumps or short pitched deliveries, rather for doni they should bowl just around the off stump with relatively fuller length. Short pitched deliveries will be punished by doni and we have seen last test it was 8 for 4 and then doni made sure that the total reached around 150. England bowlers need to keep taking wickets and their main focus should be to get doni out as soon as possible. England need to know that if pitch is producing wickets then when they bat they will have to face the same situation, with bhuvi swinging, ishant back, aaron superb pace, and with binny too a good pace bowler and ashwin very able spinner so england should make sure that they try to get india all out as soon as possible, otherwise things could get complicated later. Put your bestest effort england, Good lucks england!

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on August 15, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    Eng in top control of this test right from toss W.Opening spell of top class swing,seam by Jimmy,Broad to clueless Ind top order was a treat.Jordan,Wokes have continued in same vein,Ind 5-43 @ lunch.With sun coming out,pitch flattening out,Eng on course

  • PeerieTrow on August 15, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    Some contributors are suggesting that India's batsmen should go into the counties instead of the IPL. Unfortunately on this showing few of them would be good enough, and in any case we've got too many over-paid underperforming overseas players here already. Gone are the days when the counties were a post-graduate school for newly appointed overseas players. .....and another thing, we also need to get a number of those who see it as a retirement home out as well.

  • whirlaway on August 15, 2014, 13:00 GMT

    India top half score getting progressively worse since 2nd innings at Southampton (112-5), followed by Old Trafford (62-5 and 61-5) and now at the Oval (36-5).

  • entryholedia on August 15, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    The team India simply does not have the teeth to fathom the swing & seam no matter whatever selection be from a bench completely devoid of quality . After Sachin, Dravid , Ganguly Laxman the era of capable batsmen for any condition have ended . We now have a bunch of players who have shamed the basic essence of batsmanship while championing the cause T20 IPL cricket and has made India a laughing stock all over the world . The most humiliating part is we are unable to last for even one day such is the abysmal batting quality . Even if Bhuvi Aaron & Ishant are able to bowl out the English cheaply for below 250 our batting incapability and totals of 150 will still result in a heavy defeat by Innings .

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    game is not over yet. the 1st session is all about toss. come on india

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    next up Ind vs wi ...Ind wins and everyone forgets all the humiliation of eng 2014

  • Wicky_Rulzzzz on August 15, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    Well Kohli has proved himself to be a flat track bully....can't agree more with @King900.

  • jb633 on August 15, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    @big_poppa - you talk great sense my man. There should be some sort of system where English players play in Ranji cricket and India players play county cricket. I am under no illusion as an English fan that if we go to India the reverse of this would be happening. Of that I have absolutely no doubt. I also think if you played anyone at home right now you would win. I rank our win in India as higher than any ashes triumph given how difficult it is. I am finding the trend of home sides winning every series at a canter very tedious though and want contests. To have contests the quality of cricket must improve. This series has been played at a remarkably low level, even lower than that dreadful series against SL. Something must change for sides to buck the trend of getting hammered away from home. Playing overseas domestic cricket would certainly help.

  • CricketChat on August 15, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    Dhoni, what were you doing when you say batsmen need to convert starts? They aren't even getting starts to begin with when your team score reads 25/6! Seriously, Ind needs next few tests in sub-continent for their batsmen to get some confidence back. How about a tour from likes of Zim, Bangladesh and WI?

  • sumit1982 on August 15, 2014, 12:52 GMT

    Only way to improve the batting and blowing skills in test match every Indian player need to play domestic test tournament for their belonging state team.

  • Sexysteven on August 15, 2014, 12:49 GMT

    Cooks captaincy is now not in question that's rubbish and a false impression if the English fans and media think that India are making cooks captaincy look good that's nothing to crow about the real test will be next year the ashes India they ain't much chop outside Asia they don't stand achance in Aussie on bouncier and faster pitches even more so if the selectors keep stuffing up selection rahane vijay should have opened pujara kohli rohit dhoni ojha ashwin kumar Aaron ishant would of been the team they should of gone with and had the best chance of being competitive I do believe dhoni shouldn't be captain give that to kohli and shouldn't be keeper give that to ojha or Samson if he wants to play test cricket let him play as a batsmen only if he is good enough

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:49 GMT

    After your batting collapsed thrice in two tests, why would you not play with an extra batsman? RIP logic.

  • PoeticCricket on August 15, 2014, 12:49 GMT

    As a fan o f test cricket I am utterly disappointed. I think both Zimbabwe & Bangladesh would have done much better job than this pathetic Indian top order, after playing for more than a month in English condition, no excuse. Worse than mediocre performances like this, which only last three days is blasphemy against the five day test cricket. Though England lost last test test series against Sri Lanka. It was 10 days of test cricket fought with sweat, blood & Anderson in tears. England bullying a weak team like India at home won't improve their cricket but only masks their real problems. Cook is not a better test captain than Dhoni, neither Ali is a world class front line test spinner.

  • jb633 on August 15, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    The worst part for India is things will only get worse. They are going to get utterly humiliated in Australia without question against a far better side than this one. They will lose their world cup crown without a defence and things wont change. Even as a neutral I used to be a big fan of India, they had players like Dravid and Sachin who were universally liked. They now have guys like Ghambir, Jadeja and Kholi who are universally disliked. It seems they are so caught up in their IPL fame they forgot to learn the lessons laid down by greats of the game like Dravid, Sachin, Sehwag etc. It is an actual shame to witness this as their fans deserve better. I feel sorry for the knowledgable Indian cricket fans who have to listen to the IPL dross hammered into them at every turn. The IPL is going to ruin your national side (it already is). Surely people want a strong India rather than a strong Chennai Super Clowns or the Rajistan Rejects or whatever they are called.

  • Kashi0127 on August 15, 2014, 12:46 GMT

    Expertise of Gambhir, Pujara, Kohli laid out in the open this series. Their true calibre exposed. Unfortunately they will be back in India flat wickets scoring double hundreds and more. Only way teach them is drop the Kohlis, Gambhirs and Dhawans in home matches for series or two.

  • Temuzin on August 15, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    Lets blame Dhoni for his poor technique. Its because of him and his poor technique in these conditions that has got top 5 to collapsed :) His team selection is also bad. He brought Binny again. Not good. He should have Nohit sharma instead.

  • delimack on August 15, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    What a shame, the best paid players are playing like the Zimbabwean's. This will happend when everything happens for money. The IPL has led to the downfall of good cricket and corruption at the highest levels. It would be better if India starts playing teams like Ireland and Afghanistan to get some practise, then face England

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    I think indian team should take rest to play from away match

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    India played their part really well on bringing England back to form.. First beating them at lords to show that they are a top class team.. Then loosing consecutively to show England can still beat a top class team.. Bravo!

  • Temuzin on August 15, 2014, 12:36 GMT

    So the cries of bring Gambhir in should change to drop Gambhir and bring in Dhawan. Kohli and Pujara have been found out and so is Rahane, but lets blame Dhoni for all this.

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    Pride and honour both are on stake for India. Things have gone from bad to worse .From the first session message is quite clear final test is not going to end in a draw until the rain God's want it. India still can pull the things back but it requires an herculean effort and a bit of luck .

  • thisisanoutrage on August 15, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Can't wait to see you guys down under in a few months. Love, Mitch.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on August 15, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    Right from time Eng W toss everything going to Eng's plan.Ind 5 down already,Eng fast moving to an impregnable position.We are not yet @ lunch on d1!Pertinently both Eng support quicks are continuing where Jimmy/Broad left,both swing,seaming it all over.

  • Kotuwegogoda on August 15, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    Will this test go beyond four days ? Any predictions who will win ?

  • ishaan1997 on August 15, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    So, again the top order fails!! Need to make few changes now, Rahane should open(Although again he fell playing a very bad shot), he is a natural opener and it is showing that he should do so in tests). Kohli and pujara need to work on their off stump strokes, especially kohli. Rahane needs to be less comlacent(Please, don't crucify him, he has had a okay series overall) One more important thing is that, the indians have ensured each and every player in the england squad will be back in form, even jordan and woakes who bowled just okaish in the last to test matches. Again, indian are in a position that they cam never recover from and 3-1 seems ineviatable unless the lower order rescues them once again or the bowlers bowl the spells of their life(both highly unlikely). Only rain can save them but it will also beat them!!

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:23 GMT

    India have a lot to learn from Sri Lanka and Pakistan to play test cricket out of asia. Or is the flat track IPL hype the only problem? No sri lankans or pakistanis play IPL.

  • crkt10 on August 15, 2014, 12:22 GMT

    I think India should stop playing International and concentrate on IPL....it is good for players, crowd and BCCI.

  • Samuel-Drown on August 15, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    Starting to get a touch embarrassing. Test cricket isn't supposed to be quite this easy.

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    To be honest Murali Vijay was playing good enough to survive through the English conditions, he has a. tight technique which when produces edges atleast keeps them down so that it dies before reaching the slip fielder, But today that was good cricket from A.Cook to place that slip or gully whatever so close and square to him that dying ball off the edge was even caught..Good efforts..Not much that Vijay could have done for it...Again I feel like cryimg and depressed as a very genuine Indian fan..Hope Dhoni does a miracle again.. It is 36-5

  • cvenka on August 15, 2014, 12:19 GMT

    the only positive thing came from this tour is it made us realise the abundant contribution of sehwag. The reason for the indian's struggle is the poor opening by openers, especially vijay. only because of his over defensive approach india find themselves in the soup. just see the strike rate of vijay & compare that with sehwag. then people will understand how india managed to win overseas.

  • mikkkk on August 15, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    Several people stated before this Test that England are in for a shock. Well, we admit it, we are shocked. Shocked by the fact that this India team is worse than the last one that was here. Theyve had 3 years to rebuild and havent even started by the looks of this.

  • Nuwan_Lorensuhewa on August 15, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    Indian team are not doing right by their fans, and the whole nation who loves cricket. I am not a big fan of Indian team, not because of the team, but mainly because of the attitude of their fans criticizing and letting down other teams and players. Having said that, they don't deserve a punishment like this. I really feel for the Indian fans. This match is like England playing and under 15 school team. I can't watch this anymore. Indian cricket seems require a complete overhaul, ban IPL and focus on their cricket, build it from scratch.

  • thisisanoutrage on August 15, 2014, 12:14 GMT

    Come on India. At least do something to make Indians proud in Independence Day

  • LALITHKURUWITA on August 15, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    Gambier failed in his first 5 matches in IPL so he needs 5 test matches to practice. Then he will be a run machine for India.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on August 15, 2014, 12:12 GMT

    You can't attack in these swinging conditions. You need a good technique to see off the first hour and get to lunch unscathed. Vijay has shown the best technique out of everyone, but Dhawan/Gambhir got out too early and exposed ChePu and Kohli very early. This then puts pressure on Rahane.

    I hope Duncan Fletcher is sacked and Dhoni steps down from Test cricket and only focuses on the World Cup preparations.

    Also, all our batsman should ply their trade in English county instead of IPL. But we know that will never happen. Tendulkar? One season at Yorkshire. Ganguly and Dravid also played for English counties. Zak played for an English county too.

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    Rahane...vijay. .hitting 1 century in tour..and playing entire year...This is the problem in our team...gambit 3 and dawan 6 inngs plop..still they playing...uttappa just plop a tour he drop..This is doing selctores mistakes. .uttappa bring back has open let's trai...If traing gambir why nt uttappa he so far better then gambir. .past records ipl and domestic have robin side...

  • LALITHKURUWITA on August 15, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    India needs to play only 2 test match series overseas. If so India would have been series winner.

  • kesaraca on August 15, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    Being a Sri Lankan I use to love indian cricket. Certainly when they play with us Sri Lankans I wish my Country wins in moderate manner. Why I love Indian Cricket is when they win 100000000 peole smile. I am horribly sad for the current performance by the Indian team. I think this the error of their coach. The worst decision that Indin Cricket had taken after winning the World Cup is appointing Loser Fletcher as their coach. I hope the administers eyes will open at least three months before the World Cup.

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    once again horrible team selection by indian coach and Dhoni. why did he play gambhir in the playing eleven when we all clearly know that he doesn't even deserve to be in the test squad. and rahane i think has lost his mind because this is 3rd time he has got out caught and bowled as if he is giving catching practice to the English players. rest dharmasena did by giving kohli out who was hit on his pads out side of the line of off stumps. i am extremely embarrassed to say that this indian cricket team has let our country down.

  • on August 15, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    wow. .so happy

  • LALITHKURUWITA on August 15, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    Eng Vs Ind test matches always start one day after SL vs Pak matches but finish one day before.

  • B.C.G on August 15, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    Good to see Jordan doing well.A truly good bloke.The selectors were wise to retain him in the team.Remember even Jimmy & Broad struggled at first.

  • OhDearieMe on August 15, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    Earlier I posted, "One down, four more before lunch would be good." Five down with half an hour to go to lunch is even better.

  • tcarlos on August 15, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    Kohli the maestro from ipl has another failure. i think all the indians should learn to play proper cricket

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on August 15, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Whoa!Just as I write Rahane's sent back for 0.Ind 28-4!Jordan 2-0 in his 2nd.Am I surprised anymore?Well,Ind on familiar ground,sinking rapidly.At this rate Eng should be batting before tea today.What a fantastic toss W by Cook.Was an easy call to field.

  • King900 on August 15, 2014, 12:00 GMT

    KOHLI said before the Test series started that he had nothing to prove against anyone. According to me he has now proved that he can only play on flat pitches.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:53 GMT

    The man of crises in 2014- MS Dhoni is back on the crease, lets see what can he do 28-4, The Kohlis, The Pujaras,The Rahanes have yet again failed! And they wanted to win the the match! Feel depreseed as a cricket and more importantly An Indian Cricket Fan

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 15, 2014, 11:52 GMT

    Two overs, two maidens, two wickets for Jordan! Good call England on sticking with him, and poor support bowler what poor support bowler!? Now Woakes - please follow suit...

  • Rajitha_SL on August 15, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    India has selected best team today for England condition. why they have taken this much time to find right combination of Indian test team. but unfortunately sires is over ????????????

  • Front_foot_cyber_bully_aka_Milepost on August 15, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    India have performed much worse in the last few tests than England did in the whole of the last Ashes. It's shocking and dreadful to watch.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    Rahane flatters to deceive yet again. Story of his career todate.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:49 GMT

    Shameless batting ,team management always worried balling in oversea ,but the main concern is their batting .....

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:47 GMT

    Yet again Kohli has failed for India. Great bowling from England again though

  • SatishTembey on August 15, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    It is same story again. I think it is due to over cautious approach by India batsman. Their defensive mindset is causing early downfall and making England bowlers strong. On the contrary, England batsman attacked Jadeja in the third test and totally demoralised., they also attacked Indian bowlers. I hope Indians will change stance and attack, hope mediocre bowling of Moeen Ali will be attacked and score heavily.

  • Speng on August 15, 2014, 11:43 GMT

    To be fair to Gambhir, wasn't he scoring piles of runs in domestic cricket? You do have to respect domestic form... He does look like a walking wicket though.

    So is Binny going to bowl 10 overs/inning again? India should have picked another proper bowler as they need wickets. Ashwin thru Sharma is the core bowling lineup they ought to have had the whole time.

  • Mervo on August 15, 2014, 11:42 GMT

    Gambir again? I know he has supporters but his record shows again and again that on anything other than a dead flat track he is hopeless. Kohli and Pujara will have nightmares for years over this series and I suspect the series against Australia coming up. The only white washes coming up are in the reverse direction for India on current selection, preparation and form.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:41 GMT

    Very brave and excellent decision by Dharmsena of Kohli's lbw ..Atleast he was given out for a right call.. or it would have been a seriously unlucky decision added to Kohli's disastrous form..MAYBE India now needs Sachin to comeback and play for them..

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:40 GMT

    India has no batman who is technically strong to face swing bowling.. Should lean from Sangakkara

  • glacier_143 on August 15, 2014, 11:40 GMT

    I feel sorry for Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman, who had to hang up because of this young player who showed their promises but have truly failed and Sorry for Sehwag, Zaheer and Harbhajan who could have made major difference at least better than this lot playing in England.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:37 GMT

    Engalnd not bowling as well as they needed to after getting those 2 early wickets. They have bowled many short pitch balls and wide deliveries and they need to bowl much tighter line and length on and around the off stump because england need to get maximum out of this morning session and the advantage of toss win, if these advantages are wasted as in lords then india can bounce back again. Put your bestest effort England, Good lucks!

  • parikshit_Ops on August 15, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Somebody please tell me why Gambhir was selected in Test Squad. Give me a one good reason. If the team you captain wins IPL ( Mind you, Gambhir didn't contribute much in that batting-wise) then you are asked to open in Tests. He didn't have a great Ranji session. There would be at-least 10-15 batsmen with better records in last season. You are making Naman Ojha sit out, you don't even select Kedar Jadhav, highest scorer in Ranji. You don't even select Rohit Sharma in XI with his good record in domestic/First Class Matches. I am sorry, Thanks, Gambhir for your past record but your days are numbered. Just as write this , Kohli goes , not offering a shot again. India again in a big trouble. Am not banking on Rahane to do rescue act gain, it will be advantage. Vijay is in good touch, however, hope he scores a fighting century. Big hope but yes!

  • Front_foot_cyber_bully_aka_Milepost on August 15, 2014, 11:34 GMT

    Unfortunately it looks like we've been served up yet another disappointing nothing surface, which offers hardly any pace or bounce. Saying that, there's so many "walking wickets" in the India side it'll hardly matter. It hasn't heen a great series and as I thought at the stat of the summer, determined by the passages of very poor play rather than exceptional stuff. C'mon India provide a sterner test.

    Can't believe Woeful Woakes retained his place. The guy fires blank after blank with the ball. Let's hope that's a cue for him to take 10 wkts...

    Oh dear Kohli. 3 gawn already. This wont even last 3 days.

  • SatishTembey on August 15, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    It is same story again! I think it is due to defensive mindset. Indians are over cautious and thereby making England bowlers strong. On the contrary England chose to counter-attack. Ian Bell attacked Jadeja in third test and also attacked fast bowlers - this tactic has demoralised Indian bowlers. Hope Indians will change stance and play positive cricket. I wish Mediocre bowling of Moeen Ali will be smashed.

  • Big_Poppa_94 on August 15, 2014, 11:30 GMT

    People calling for Sehwag are the same who wanted him out! Sehwag is past it. He is aged and isn't a dogged type of player like Chris Rogers, who can set an example to his team mates on how to bat in tricky English conditions. Also you cannot flay the ball when the bowling is accurate and swinging.

    I would also like to add that the true problem with Indian cricket is not the batting, but the bowling and athleticism. This current crop of Indian batsman won't really be bounced out and these swinging conditions will trouble any good batsman.

    So have faith. The real questions are these: Why is Umesh Yadav not in the team? Why is Jadeja still in the team despite being a bits and pieces player? Why is Fletcher the coach when he is so defensive? Why is Dhoni still captain? Why is a spinner like Ojha not in the team?

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:25 GMT

    India will lose the series 3-1,by luck they won the 1st test ,just this player are playing for fame not for cricket....

  • rsrs1981 on August 15, 2014, 11:24 GMT

    So in couple of days the series ends, all these players who failed miserably go back play the champions league and some series back in India succeed handsomely and hold onto their places as usual and people again forget the drubbing they took overseas !!!

  • Blade-Runner on August 15, 2014, 11:24 GMT

    Well, despite all the injuries, Broad joins the party. What a player. Btw Pujara has proven that he can score runs only on home flat tracks. He had an abysmal tour of New Zealand and now this. Don't be fooled by his 100 in SA because it was a lucky one and dropped at 40 something by Faf. No hope for India in the future as It seems.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:23 GMT

    Quite why India chose to regress to Gambhir is beyond me. He didn't work in his prime in England, what made them think he would in the evening of his career?? As for Pujara being the next Dravid, his bubble has truly burst! Pathetic batting at its finest. Another 3 day test beckons unless at least two of the batters stand up and be counted. Vijay needs to be more attacking, else another 22 of 97 deliveries type knock and India will 72 for 6 in due course!!

  • vijaytriambak on August 15, 2014, 11:22 GMT

    Gambhir wants to be Indian captain but he doesnt fit to be a player in the team

  • Seamer_Singh on August 15, 2014, 11:21 GMT

    So with India failing again in England as well as SA, NZ and most likely in Australia again, it's time for Fletcher and co to go. The team was doing brilliantly until Gary Kirsten went so whatever DF is bringing into the side is clearly failing. The difference can be clearly seen from the team under GK and now.... especially in the fielding.

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:08 GMT

    @bladerunner...yh u r correct bro..Test is for teams who never own innings defeat..what ever the rankings says,best test teams in world cricket are SA,AUS,SL and ENG..no doubt..

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:06 GMT

    @Blade-Runner Aww thats a tough call. Without us whose going to whitewash Australia and put the fear of God into South Africa who have'nt come to India since Sach scored his double ton on em

  • on August 15, 2014, 11:05 GMT

    India ..again for an innings defeat...go on england..from SL..

  • Reverse_Bat on August 15, 2014, 11:00 GMT

    I think we really miss Sehwag, or someone hard hitting like him, someone need to attack on one end, these guys are too defensive for the bowlers to get advantage of the new ball and pitch. Oh 2nd wicket down, well, we lost this test too.

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    Tough on Dhawan to be left out so that a walking wicket comes in to take his place. I can only hope there is a pool of solid openers in domestic cricket. Or it might be prudent to make pujara an opener from now on because he is doing the job right now anyway

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:54 GMT

    Who else they gonna fill with Gambhir's position ..dhawan???or retired Tenbullkar..

  • Blade-Runner on August 15, 2014, 10:53 GMT

    Anderson picked up i where he left off in the last match and claimed a wicket in the 3rd ball. Indians are so poor here. They should stick to IPL in my opinion. Test is for real strong teams like SA, AUS, Sri Lanka and England.

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on August 15, 2014, 10:50 GMT

    I hope the selectors never pick Gambhir again for Tests. Feel sorry for Rohit who was dropped after just one match, while underperformers like Kohli and Gambhir get a long rope.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 15, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    Gambhir is a walking wicket as seen yet again - simply don't know what he is doing in the squad, let alone the team!

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    This is going to be Gambhirs last oppurtunity to impress the selectors. otherwise he will vanish moving forward.

  • OhDearieMe on August 15, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    One down, four more before lunch would be good.

  • bhushanB on August 15, 2014, 10:43 GMT

    Looks like all the practice that Gambhir did leaving the ball outside off has finally paid off.... he was drawn into his usual nick mode then tried an extravagant leave.. process altered, but result the same.

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:42 GMT

    Again hit by england..no doubt this is gonna be England's day...

  • Jimi01 on August 15, 2014, 10:40 GMT

    I find it hilarious that Indian fans were predicting a series win for India before 1st match even begun. When will they learn. Haha

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  • Jimi01 on August 15, 2014, 10:40 GMT

    I find it hilarious that Indian fans were predicting a series win for India before 1st match even begun. When will they learn. Haha

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:42 GMT

    Again hit by england..no doubt this is gonna be England's day...

  • bhushanB on August 15, 2014, 10:43 GMT

    Looks like all the practice that Gambhir did leaving the ball outside off has finally paid off.... he was drawn into his usual nick mode then tried an extravagant leave.. process altered, but result the same.

  • OhDearieMe on August 15, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    One down, four more before lunch would be good.

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    This is going to be Gambhirs last oppurtunity to impress the selectors. otherwise he will vanish moving forward.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 15, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    Gambhir is a walking wicket as seen yet again - simply don't know what he is doing in the squad, let alone the team!

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on August 15, 2014, 10:50 GMT

    I hope the selectors never pick Gambhir again for Tests. Feel sorry for Rohit who was dropped after just one match, while underperformers like Kohli and Gambhir get a long rope.

  • Blade-Runner on August 15, 2014, 10:53 GMT

    Anderson picked up i where he left off in the last match and claimed a wicket in the 3rd ball. Indians are so poor here. They should stick to IPL in my opinion. Test is for real strong teams like SA, AUS, Sri Lanka and England.

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:54 GMT

    Who else they gonna fill with Gambhir's position ..dhawan???or retired Tenbullkar..

  • on August 15, 2014, 10:56 GMT

    Tough on Dhawan to be left out so that a walking wicket comes in to take his place. I can only hope there is a pool of solid openers in domestic cricket. Or it might be prudent to make pujara an opener from now on because he is doing the job right now anyway