England v India, 5th Investec Test, The Oval, 2nd day August 16, 2014

Root takes England into huge lead

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England 385 for 7 (Root 92*, Jordan 19*) lead India 148 by 237 runs
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Intensity, tension and an ultimate examination of courage and skill: such is the oft-stated attraction of Test cricket. But sometimes a day at the Test is none of those things, but just gambols along pleasantly enough, the result as good as decided from an early hour, with the chance of carelessness at every turn. Saturday at The Oval felt like this - but Joe Root was keenly resistant to the dangers.

When India took four England wickets in 11 overs on the second afternoon, transforming England's supremacy at 191 for 1 - already 43 runs to the good - into a somewhat lax position of authority at 229 for 5, Root glanced meaningfully at a deteriorating scoreboard, a young batsman who was obliged to get his old head on again. When it comes to the business of batting, his old head is never far away.

By the close of the second day of the final Investec Test, Root had re-established England's supremacy, not by withdrawing into himself, but by an innings both shrewd and enterprising: 92 not out from 129 balls. His forces off the back foot - his trademark shot - were crisp and assured. He survived some testing overs with the second new ball from Varun Aaron, a little jumpily at times, before preying upon a tiring attack so successfully in the closing overs that he almost stole in for a century. England scored 139 in 32 overs after tea to lead by 237.

His contentment now he has a settled position in the middle order was unmistakeable, his adaptability growing by the month, his desire for runs unabated. Even with the damage of a troubled Ashes series, his Test average is heading towards 50. That one day he will captain England seems inevitable.

He loves batting and even in his most defensive mode his mind ticks so obviously that he is eminently watchable. You feel you can hear it ticking loudly enough to keep the entire street awake at night.

On this occasion, he was busy from the outset, a perky stand of 80 in 25 overs with Jos Buttler singing of a new England era, runs cascading in the closing overs after Buttler's dismissal to prey on a tiring Indian attack, not as much playing for the morrow, as taking advantage of today. He destroyed India with a sweet touch.

India's attack had its limitations, although it showed more relish for the fight than the batsmen. Bhuvneshwar Kumar looked spent, the effects of five Tests in six weeks. Ishant Sharma found threatening bounce at times but he was well below the pace that destroyed England at Lord's. R Ashwin, although not particularly threatening, might have bowled more. As for Stuart Binny, that first Test wicket remains elusive.

But even days of unremitting domination there can be casualties. Sam Robson could be one. He made a maiden Test hundred in his second Test of the summer, against Sri Lanka at Headingley, but over seven Tests he has barely averaged 30 and, for all his earnestness, he has struggled to assert himself.

Robson fell in the second over of the morning, poking charily at his second ball, from Aaron, steering the next awkwardly through gully for four, and then being bowled by a near yorker. It was another stilted dismissal for a player who has looked somewhat manufactured. He might get a chance to bat again in this Test - the last of the summer - and it will be April before England turn to the five-day game again on a three-Test tour of the West Indies.

Aaron was India's figure of hope. It was a wholehearted spell from Aaron, who bowled his share of gifts, but who regularly found swing at close to 90mph, that shook India into a concerted response after England, 148 for 1 by lunch, had achieved parity, their nine remaining wickets asserting their dominance as plain as a row of pikestaffs.

Then four of those pikestaffs toppled over. Alastair Cook was dropped twice at first slip before a third edge to the same position in eight overs was finally held, so ending an innings of 79 that had begun responsibly but which, in its closing stages, had all the stability of a rich curry on an acid stomach.

Cook has arrested his decline with three half-centuries in four, getting more bend in his front leg than he did at the start of the summer. India's bowlers graciously fed him his favourite cut and pull shots that a few weeks ago he must have imagined he would never gorge on again.

But it would be misleading to suggest that all his problems are behind him. He was twice reprieved, on 65 and 70. M Vijay spurned a straightforward chance at waist high; it was his catch, but his lack of understanding with his wicketkeeper MS Dhoni is doubtless preying on his mind. Ajinkya Rahane missed a slightly tougher opportunity as Cook tried to force Ashwin off the back foot. Finally, Vijay held one, a good catch low to his right.

Gary Ballance was bemused by his own misjudgement on 64 when he pushed rigidly at a nondescript delivery by Ashwin, perhaps benefiting from a touch of extra bounce, and planted the ball into the hands of silly mid-off.

Ballance's start to his Test career remains among the best in England's history. He is a utilitarian cricketer, a batsman whose worth has become apparent as the summer has progressed. The shot that brought up his half-century summed up his composure: swaying out of the way of a short ball from Bhuvneshwar, calmly reassessed and instead steered it with ease over the slips.

In the over after Ballance's dismissal, India struck again, Ian Bell pushing at a length ball from Ishant that straightened just a tad. Moeen Ali's reputation for soft dismissals will also be entrenched further after he played on against Ashwin, indecisive over whether to leave the ball. A bowling attack which could have been forgiven for surrendering to despair had instead responded gamely.

Buttler made another useful contribution before he clipped an inswinger from Ishant to short midwicket, Chris Woakes fell down the leg side, third ball for nought, but Root and Chris Jordan remained at the close. Stuart Broad, next man in, fingered his broken nose and was probably grateful for at least another 16 hours' healing.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY namakkalsekar on | August 17, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    An all time poor Indian side. These players when they play outside India, exhibit no professional approach and look like novices. They have been paid very well and compared to other players fron other countries, they are very rich and their life is on on par with leading heroes of the silver screen. They lack temperament, conviction, competence and common sense. They seem to have no clue to the swing bowling and our bowlers have no bowling objectives and they simply run in and bowl mediocre deliveries. Without their knowledge, they sometimes bowl some unique deliveries which get them wickets. There does not seem to be any captain who directs the proceedings for India..Never a side so far from India has performed like this. All of you , Indian cricketers, please retire from cricket and enjoy your wealth. Enough is enough for us.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 11:45 GMT

    @nihit, in the same team yadav and pandey in for binny and gambhir looks little more decent.. seriously good team ..don't know we could see this team composition on field.. ashwin should start innings truly. .then we will not see wkts falling in bunches or early wkts..

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 11:40 GMT

    India should give up playing abroad if not willing to take cricket seriously.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Root has rooted the Indians

  • POSTED BY nathankathiravan7 on | August 17, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    Anyone or any team out of form. Call INDIA! India better start look at better captaincy. Dhoni is not aggressive, he gets in so much defensive mode even in a TEST match... He is better in ODI, T20... not in TEST level.

    Just embarrassed the whole nation with poor performance... This is not a good 15 man squad... Gambhir, Dhawan, Rohit, Binny were out off form players... Still made into test squad... Failed miserably...

  • POSTED BY baranasai on | August 17, 2014, 11:31 GMT

    The Match and the series are done and dusted/ Biggest lesson for Dhoni and h company but have they ever learnt any thing out of this series debacle. I am sure the same mistakes will come again in the next overseas series. I think they should sack Gautham Jadeja Biiny altogether and Virat Rahane for a series

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 11:30 GMT

    will be interesting to see whethet india survive till tea or not

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 11:26 GMT

    india will not be able to survive in Australia if they played like this.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 11:20 GMT

    India should open with R. Ashwin followed by Dhoni to shield the likes of Gambhir, Kohli, Pujara and Rahane. I think the batting order should be

    1. M. Vijay 2. R. Ashwin 3. M. Dhoni 4. Rahane 5. Pujara 6. G Gambhir 7. V. Kohli 8. Binny 9. B Kumar 10. I Sharma 11. V Aaron

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 17, 2014, 11:15 GMT

    @JG2704 (post on August 16, 2014, 20:35 GMT): Just heard on TMS commentary that Root averages 75 odd at 5, and 25 anywhere else in the order. It was always a no-brainer to me; except for that one magnificent ton opening at Lords, he has never looked comfortable opening in tests to me. Really stupid of England to have ever moved him in the first place, and deny Compton a well-deserved opening slot alongside Cook.

    Ah, you noticed England have no frontline spinners then eh? :-)

  • POSTED BY namakkalsekar on | August 17, 2014, 12:33 GMT

    An all time poor Indian side. These players when they play outside India, exhibit no professional approach and look like novices. They have been paid very well and compared to other players fron other countries, they are very rich and their life is on on par with leading heroes of the silver screen. They lack temperament, conviction, competence and common sense. They seem to have no clue to the swing bowling and our bowlers have no bowling objectives and they simply run in and bowl mediocre deliveries. Without their knowledge, they sometimes bowl some unique deliveries which get them wickets. There does not seem to be any captain who directs the proceedings for India..Never a side so far from India has performed like this. All of you , Indian cricketers, please retire from cricket and enjoy your wealth. Enough is enough for us.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 11:45 GMT

    @nihit, in the same team yadav and pandey in for binny and gambhir looks little more decent.. seriously good team ..don't know we could see this team composition on field.. ashwin should start innings truly. .then we will not see wkts falling in bunches or early wkts..

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 11:40 GMT

    India should give up playing abroad if not willing to take cricket seriously.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Root has rooted the Indians

  • POSTED BY nathankathiravan7 on | August 17, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    Anyone or any team out of form. Call INDIA! India better start look at better captaincy. Dhoni is not aggressive, he gets in so much defensive mode even in a TEST match... He is better in ODI, T20... not in TEST level.

    Just embarrassed the whole nation with poor performance... This is not a good 15 man squad... Gambhir, Dhawan, Rohit, Binny were out off form players... Still made into test squad... Failed miserably...

  • POSTED BY baranasai on | August 17, 2014, 11:31 GMT

    The Match and the series are done and dusted/ Biggest lesson for Dhoni and h company but have they ever learnt any thing out of this series debacle. I am sure the same mistakes will come again in the next overseas series. I think they should sack Gautham Jadeja Biiny altogether and Virat Rahane for a series

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 11:30 GMT

    will be interesting to see whethet india survive till tea or not

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 11:26 GMT

    india will not be able to survive in Australia if they played like this.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 11:20 GMT

    India should open with R. Ashwin followed by Dhoni to shield the likes of Gambhir, Kohli, Pujara and Rahane. I think the batting order should be

    1. M. Vijay 2. R. Ashwin 3. M. Dhoni 4. Rahane 5. Pujara 6. G Gambhir 7. V. Kohli 8. Binny 9. B Kumar 10. I Sharma 11. V Aaron

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 17, 2014, 11:15 GMT

    @JG2704 (post on August 16, 2014, 20:35 GMT): Just heard on TMS commentary that Root averages 75 odd at 5, and 25 anywhere else in the order. It was always a no-brainer to me; except for that one magnificent ton opening at Lords, he has never looked comfortable opening in tests to me. Really stupid of England to have ever moved him in the first place, and deny Compton a well-deserved opening slot alongside Cook.

    Ah, you noticed England have no frontline spinners then eh? :-)

  • POSTED BY LALITHKURUWITA on | August 17, 2014, 11:14 GMT

    Can we play test matches with 3 innings for each team?

  • POSTED BY cric1965 on | August 17, 2014, 11:12 GMT

    India will loose by an innings. This is thee results of IPL. Play more IPL. More track bullies will come as cricketing heroes ho fail out side the sub continents. Virat Kohli has repeatedly failed 9 times. What more chances he needs in test side without dropping media inflated another Tendulkar.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 11:06 GMT

    Varun's economy rate is shocking .since I am an Indian I can comment nothing but wait and watch

  • POSTED BY SatishTembey on | August 17, 2014, 10:55 GMT

    It will be a great challenge to wipe out definite of 300+ runs and set target for England. However I won't be surprised to see goos Indian performance. It is mainly because Indians will be playing for their place in the side !!!!

  • POSTED BY Mervo on | August 17, 2014, 10:53 GMT

    After India lose this series and then the one against Australia they will be ranked down below SL, with the WI and NZ in world cricket. Really this is not being 'out of form' or some other reason related to player selections, but a fundamental lack of wickets and coaching in India that develops players for the world game. International cricket can't be played in ignorance of the need for quality pace bowlers, quality spinners, batsmen with backfoot techniques, and all the other variations that are needed. Denial can be continued, but eventually the BCCI will need to make adjustments to the game in India to reflect the game internationally, if they want to be regarded as a powerhouse in world cricket. To watch Kumar and Binny bowling at a gentle 76mph when other fast bowlers are 10- 15 more than that is asking too much of them. Time for some serious decision making after this series.

  • POSTED BY ksquared on | August 17, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    The way Root is batting now it's reminiscent of that innings by Angelo Mathews against ENG in that Headingly Test a few months back

  • POSTED BY SatishTembey on | August 17, 2014, 10:49 GMT

    Well played Root. Now Indian team is totally demoralised, waiting for wicket. Sanjay Manjrekar criticised Dhoni for field placement. If you analyse Dhoni's captaincy, it is evident that it lacks plan and energy. Probably his interaction with players is minimum, much less than other captains. I don't understand why "third man" and "fine leg" area is not covered while defending such a low total. It will be interesting to analyse percentage of deliveries bowled by "off spinner" to left handlers. Ballace, who scored 503 runs, was rarely challenged by off spinner.

  • POSTED BY baranasai on | August 17, 2014, 10:38 GMT

    I am pretty sure that India has lost the series as thery were 42 for 5. I doubt very much they can even avoid an an innings defeat. It will be 3/1 by 9pm to night IST.Take it from me/ Unless some Miracle occurs there wont be any play tomorrow Indians will never learn anything from an adverse situation like this-no one in the team will be there to fight back. another 40 for 5 and 99 all out situation. Please don't have any hopes friends -enjoy your sunday by doing useful things England was a useless team now looking better at the expense ofa Hapless performance from Indians. Cook will survive for another 1 year as captain. They should drop Jadeja Ghambir Binny and few others. bring some new players as they can get a chance .Why not try new batsmen. Virat should sit out for a season to learn his mistakes and come back. When people shouted at Sachin last 2 years ago-same should apply to these people as welll

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | August 17, 2014, 10:38 GMT

    @ wapuser. Cummins is never fit.Johnson is getting on a bit and Harris won't stay fit. But yeah apart from that it is all good. Besides at least India won a test. How did your lads do last summer

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 10:38 GMT

    I have neof seen the West Indies in a state as bad as this.

  • POSTED BY Presynaras on | August 17, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    This series would be a failure for India, unless they bring Robson to form as well. All other players have been brought to form. Any other board wants their team to come to form, please contact BCCI for an overseas tour. The money from the television audience for the series is a bonus, but you will only get a three day game, so not much profit from stadium collections. You can't win them all.

  • POSTED BY JimmyDean on | August 17, 2014, 10:33 GMT

    @Pradeep: "When will Cook declare? .........Why on earth would Cook declare just yet and only on an early 3rd day, Pradeep???. I think Cook should bat on and score as much runs in this first innings and really demoralised the oppositions. There are enough time in this match for an innings win!

  • POSTED BY 5wombats on | August 17, 2014, 10:26 GMT

    As I said some time ago - I would much rather have Root in my side than Kohli. Root collects another Test hundred and yet Kohli collects another low score.... I'm waiting now for the entrails of this Test - I'm waiting to watch the Indian batsmen all at sea against Moeen Ali again. I cannot for the life of me understand why these Indian batsmen have such a weakness against spin. Someone please explain it to me.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 9:58 GMT

    Bring on the ashes

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 17, 2014, 9:52 GMT

    Why binny again why not naman Ojha instead

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 17, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    @thozar on (August 16, 2014, 23:32 GMT) Sounds like you're blaming everything on fortune there. Remember MSD won the toss in similar conditions in the last game and chose to bat. You say imagine what would have happened..... Well you have a great imagination there

  • POSTED BY crzcric on | August 17, 2014, 9:12 GMT

    Team india dominating overseas. What a team. They are the number one

  • POSTED BY sepultura.31 on | August 17, 2014, 9:10 GMT

    @ Darkmanx12155 keep dreaming mate! I will consider that India has won the test match if they can take the game into the 5 th day!! India's done and dusted in the test series IMO:)

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 8:51 GMT

    This English team was mediocre n india struggling against them.. What happens when ind tours AUSTRALIA down under.??Johnson, pattinson, cummins, siddle , I guess Clarke n co wil create a world record by finishing all tests in 2 days...

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | August 17, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    I think that ENG need to drop Bell, because as predicted by many, the recent 100 was a one off and he's back to his old ways of looking classy but getting out cheaply. Lyth of Yorkshire would be an obvious replacement. I also think Hales should get his chance at the top instead of Robson. Hales and Cook would be a much better pairing, i.e. one aggressor, one accumilator, just like AUS do with their opening pair.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | August 17, 2014, 8:40 GMT

    @thozar, good analysis, dont forget match is played in Oval NOT in Ahmedabad. When did India score 500 in 3rd innings of a test away from SC. Please look at stats. Last year England were on course of chase of 227 vs Aussies until rain at Oval. The logic is simple, one team must play badly inorder other to win. England played badly in Ashes 2013/14, so that does not guarantee England is a punch bag, nevertheless its not a guarantee than Aussies will win the ashes in 2015. Cricket is a great leveller. unfortunately i must accept SL vs ENG series was much better than this, game had twists. If your stars does not play horizontal bat in swinging conditions, you will face nightmare in Australia. Supporting India is onething but bullying others to show indian greatness is just a flop considering this test series. Support india and respect other cricketing nations.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | August 17, 2014, 8:33 GMT

    Ravichandran Jagadisan:Problem is that India cannot do the same when other teams visit India.Look what happened when Eng toured India recently.India lost that series.India should learn some lesson from SL team.If SL can beat Eng in Eng,why not India who are world champs & always bragging about best team in the world having outstanding batsmen.All of those batsmen were just good for flat tracks only.imo..throw those flat tracks towards low ranked teams & even their batsmen would score piles of runs.Then why are Indian batsmen considered as great batsmen.

  • POSTED BY Darkmanx12155 on | August 17, 2014, 8:29 GMT

    All you haters of GOD captain Dhoni, just wait and see how india will bounce back in the second innings. Lead is still under 250 and that should not be a problem for the indian batting line up who learnt a lesson during the 1st innings. Look how well Dhoni played the english bowlers! india will bounce back to win this test..

  • POSTED BY cricchanel.com on | August 17, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    Investec test series 5th test match, England is in a very strong position to defeat India with a huge margin than the previous all match, an inning second time in this series. The only thing which can play in India's favour is weather if prevents India from an inning defeat. Stuart Broad who was injured and not playing in this match. England managed to get a lead of 227 with Joe Root and Jorden on crease with 92 and 19 respectively. Jordan was finding a decent rhythm while Moeen Ali may also be a threat. The feeling is that England will need to make a lead more than 300 and then It will be very tough for India to avoid another miserable defeat of an inning.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | August 17, 2014, 7:57 GMT

    @ VillageBlacksmith: I agree re. Dhoni. He's as tough as nails and it's no coincidence he's the last of the 'old school' still playing. .. He might not be an outstanding captain tactically but I'm sure he makes up for that in other ways. I admire Dhoni because he's had a long, hard journey to get where he is. He's earned this respect by going through the school of hard knocks all around the world and showing time and again that he won't give it up easily. .. I'm not so sure the new guys have earned their fame and fortune in quite the same way.

  • POSTED BY VillageBlacksmith on | August 17, 2014, 7:32 GMT

    People calling for Dhoni's head is laughable…. He is the only guy scoring any runs and putting up any kind of resistance… This insipid new breed of flat track show ponies who cannot catch should be dropped… Dhoni's name should be the first name on any India teamsheet… If it wasn't for Dhoni this series would already be over…

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    @Calvin Palmer Warbah on (August 17, 2014, 6:04 GMT);

    6/66 is India's favourite score in this series. You can't deprive them of that , even in predictions.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | August 17, 2014, 7:24 GMT

    Some commts saying long 5 test series taking toll on Ind esp. bowlers fitness.Heres a fact.Same Eng team are playing their 3rd 5 test series within an year! 2 of those in highly draining,intense pressure,high stakes Ashes serier.Add to that IPL,ODI,t20s.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 7:22 GMT

    Mr . Dhoni kindly find a Route Dismiss Root

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | August 17, 2014, 7:12 GMT

    I'm not going to dwell on how abysmal India has been but take a leaf out of @ -Will-'s book and give the English some credit for a great fightback. Just like almost everybody else I was writing them off at 0-1 down but they have bounced back strongly. It IS a great effort and I dips me lid to them. The only thing I'd like to add is to ask them to ease up a bit. We've got to play the Indians next and this is becoming a hard act to follow. Thank god India won a Test, that gives us a bit of leeway at least.

    India can still salvage something out of this with a strong batting effort in the 2nd Innings. If they can draw it out to the fifth day they will have done well. If they can somehow scramble a draw it would be almost as good for their morale as actually winning it imo. .. We'll see shortly I guess.

  • POSTED BY dort7 on | August 17, 2014, 7:10 GMT

    It's obvious that the T20 format has ruined the Test temperament of these Indian players. Particularly the IPL which is flourishing has drawn players for financial benefit and recognition which in the process disrupted their techniques, and destroyed their concentration. This is a fundamental point which needs to be addressed by the Indian board. The boy's that play T20 shouldn't get involved in Tests and visa versa. At the end of it all this is the down side we are seeing of the T20 format entering the scene. Most intelligent Boards like Australia for an example manage this very well and ultimately produce results in all formats.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    for all those who are having a great time taking pot shots at almost every Indian cricketer now playing I would like to remind them that India lost 4-0 to both england and Australia when all the former test greats were playing. India are mostly beaten easily while playing abroad especially in the bouncy and swinging wickets in England and Australia. now all we can do is to return the compliment when they come to play in India

  • POSTED BY mrpaneesh1 on | August 17, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    In order for india to win BCCI should make it mandatory for all teams to play an innings of 20 overs and 1 wicket against india in all test matchs out side india.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 17, 2014, 6:59 GMT

    @Rajesh.Kumar, not quite correct, I dont think India has the wrong players, just the wrong attitudes.

    In the main the batsmen struggle with the moving ball, just like England have trouble with Spin in india, and in part the BCCI is to blame for not releasing indian players to apply for spots in County sides. Whats really undone them this series is underestimating Moeen Ali, who now has the upper hand, as they want to be positive but are tentative about being positive, this means they are in two minds so get out.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | August 17, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    Eng should bat normal,theres lot of time left.Obviously Roots 100 will be 1st goal in morning.With Jordan,Broad still left should look to bat to an hour after lunch.With all these stroke players and open fields runs will come quick.Goal should be inngs W.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 6:48 GMT

    In the test match between the two women's teams, India scored LESS than 2 runs per over in both innings, and England scored MORE than 2 runs per over in both. Yet India won.

    There is a big lesson for the India men's team. In test cricket, slow & steady wins the race. Not bravado. Not flashy strokes. Three things seem to be essential for success in tests. Patience! More patience, And, even more patience!

  • POSTED BY Rajesh.Kumar on | August 17, 2014, 6:46 GMT

    I think BCCI should give up on the this discriminatory policy of playing four/five test series with Aus/Eng, and playing two test series with the rest. While it is true that in the 70s and 80s, India used to play six test series at home, but then the work load on the players was not much. They used to play only two test series a year: during autumn/winter at home, and during the summer abroad. But now with ODIs/T20s/IPL matches abound, and with a lot of common set of players across all formats, Indian players are just too overworked, and should not be playing four/five test series at all. They should play only in three-test series against all teams (Aus, NZ, SA, Eng, WI, Pak, SL, BD, Zim...). This will keep players fresh and fit, and will allow them to be tested against a variety of oppositions. This will also do away with allegations of bias against non-big-three teams which are frequently levelled at BCCI. Bhuvi is already a victim of it, as his speed has gone down by 4-5 kmph.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 17, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    @Viswanath Sankaranarayanan, As with all things intensity generally comes from the top, and it looks as though Dhoni has thrown in the towel, and is going through the motions, when a captain gets like that the rest of the team adopt that persona as well.

    Cook isnt the most energetic or vocal of people, but he looks positively animated compared to Dhoni.

    Its probably time Dhoni makes a decision, on whether he continues as the test captain or not, because something has to give, we know the BCCI dont like to remove well paid and connected players, even if they are in bad form, but even they must be getting to the end of their tolerance, another loss in Aus later this year might be the catalyst for change, but I thought the same in 2011 and nothing happened.

  • POSTED BY sam6e on | August 17, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    People started comparing kohli with sachin and rahane with dravid...no wonder why they were called legends and that word doesn't exist for the current generation

  • POSTED BY sam6e on | August 17, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    I bet that even Bangladesh would have fared better than the current indian team...atleast would have taken the matches to last day even if they lose and for sure would have crossed atleast 200 mark unlike indians bundled out for 150 or less in more occassions

  • POSTED BY Rajesh.Kumar on | August 17, 2014, 6:34 GMT

    Dhoni can only work with the team which has been given to him by the selectors. If selectors select a lousy set of players, and if key players suddenly lose their form, then how is Dhoni to blame? As far as I remember, Virat Kohli lost his form with the bat in the second half of IPL, and the same loss of form is continuing. But he will play ODIs as well, and if he does not discover his form soon enough, he deserves to be dropped. And just because your dad happens to be in the selection committee, a player gets to play three test matches even though he has not picked up a single wicket. Because selection committee did not send any other decent batsmen/bowler, Dhoni is forced to pick this player repeatedly. Never mind that the player contributes neither with the ball nor with the bat.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 6:31 GMT

    @calvin may be some part of ur prediction may happen true, but we definitely see some resurgence in second innings and avoid innings defeat..They will not fold up easily. .

  • POSTED BY Mani_CricketFan on | August 17, 2014, 6:30 GMT

    Seeing current batting of India and especially top order, Virender Sehwag needs to be back as soon as possible. His quick 30-40 runs can demoralize the opponent's bowling attack. He can make 30 runs alone which is more than our top 4-5 batsman are making together. Cannot understand Binny's selection when India needed 2-3 extra batsmen. For future series, I want that selectors drop Dhawan, Kohli, Jadeja, Binny, Gambhir and bring Sehwag, Manoj tiwari, Samson, and some quality spinners who does not rely much on variations and istead bowl natural deliveries.

    For this test, can we borrow Sangakarra and mahela for a day or two and Herath for a day. Sanga and Mahela would alone make 300 runs in these conditions and Herath would bowl Eng for mere 100 runs.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 17, 2014, 6:18 GMT

    @JK2704, I really wouldnt care, but i pointed out the same issues in 2011, in the final test then.

    @thozar, all well and good in theory, but staring down the barrel of a 250-300 run lead adn trying to bat for the best part of 2 days to get 500 runs in the third innings, having spent 4-5 sessions watching the opposition play is a very big ask, its not impossible, but even then you would only give your bowler s200-250 if that to bowl at.

    England are strong favourites to wrap this up by close on the 4th day depending on how long they bat for, and how well india bat.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 6:11 GMT

    in the context of comparison thing to notice is in 90s England, was not fierceful as they are now with andson, broad, root are in top of their form.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    @ Viswanath Sankaranarayanan on (August 17, 2014, 4:30 GMT):

    You said: To quote, exactly "...I dont why everyone singlehandedly blames Dhoni..."

    Response: No. Many had been collectively doing it. When more than one person join hands, they can't do it singlehandedly".

    You said: "... Yes as a captain he made few mistakes..."

    Response: Dhoni made 'A' few mistakes. Quite a few in fact.

    Yes. Dhoni's natural style is the short format style. When a situation demanded that style he scored decent runs in tests too. Or, when he wants to bat in his natural style.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 6:04 GMT

    My prediction for India's first innings was 90% true. Here's my 2nd innings ~ 1/10,2/22,3/36,4/50,5/130,6/155,7/167,8/175,9/178,10/183. India will definitely lose by an innings. I swear in front of all the ipl lovers.

  • POSTED BY _-Will-_ on | August 17, 2014, 6:02 GMT

    I wonder what the Indian camp might have learned from this tournament?

    They might have learned that their physical fitness, mental fortitude and technical skills are manifestly inadequate for any overseas tour that exceeds two test matches.

    They might have learned that the cost of disregarding the rudiments of batting, bowling and fielding is, invariably, total failure.

    They might have learned that, despite winning a match, their present captain will take measures to strongly discourage, if not prohibit them from winning another.

    They might have learned these and other lessons, but all for nothing, unless their employers decide that Indian test cricket is worth saving. A strong brand reputation, backed up by a desirable product, is usually profitable. Surely this is worth investing in? Forget esoteric stuff like national pride (clearly not a priority anyway). Wouldn't a better product (ie: test team) bring more profit? And would that not be sufficient reason for investment?

  • POSTED BY Sanjo.john1 on | August 17, 2014, 5:51 GMT

    What India is really missing..? I'm pretty sure that it's definitely Virender Sehwag. He was actually the fear factor for any opponent against India. Because you could see that good innings of Dhoni also not motivated Team India. Veeru's just one innings upfront will surely change the complexion of the game. In late 90's India learnt how to earn draws against best teams with Sachin, Dada and Dravid. It was after the arrival of VVS and Sehwag India started winning matches.Speciality of both, when they r in form won't loose the wicket early... they make big hundreds to demoralise the opponents....!

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 5:45 GMT

    @mano Manohar, Nice points by you. Let us hope the team performs better wins in the end!

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 5:37 GMT

    @cricfansince91, I too agree with you, the 82 runs by doni was really nothing special in the context of this test where the momentum had already been lost due to fall of several quick wickets within the first couple of hours of the test on the first day. When doni comes at that juncture he has no pressure because there is nothing much to lose so he can play freely. Bhuvi too played such few good innings in the earlier tests in this series.

    The 82 runs is also significantly contributed by poor bowling by england. It was one of the worst bowling spell I have ever seen by these england bowlers against a batsman. Such short pitched or 1/2 volley or fulltoss or and wide deliveries without any fielders in the deep/boundary lines? Who will not feast on them? All they had to do was bowl good length so that the slip fielders and wicket keeper come into play so doni might nick to these fielders but all they did was waste those fielders and give him useless short pitch and wide deliveries.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 5:18 GMT

    @lin comp I have been seeing u r comments u r a bit overcautious about England performance at all stages of a match..good to see your humble support and respect to opposition..With Indian bad luck with toss and selection woes , England are in driver's seat at present in this series. .hope India come good in remainder of the tour. .cheers link comp..

  • POSTED BY TaleEnder on | August 17, 2014, 5:05 GMT

    "Its a four. Once again the ball goes through that porous area, sometimes called as slip cordon" - Harsha Bhogle. Always wonderful to listen to his commentary.

  • POSTED BY cricfansince91 on | August 17, 2014, 5:03 GMT

    @Viswanath Sankaranarayanan Dhoni is not fit for Test-Cricket and hence can't think along lines of a Test captain!!!! how else do you explain him regularly missing out on key moments of a test match which are evident to even viewers like us?? yesterday itself with two fairly new batsmen at crease at start of the post Tea-session was good opportunity to keep the lead under 150 but Dhoni chose to do 5 overs with Binny to wait for new ball instead of going all out for kill?!! this is only acceptable for somebody new.. Dhoni's tendency to keep his favoured guys and let things drift make him unsuitable, For every Durban 2010, Dhoni has a Capetown 2011 also!!! Ganguly was also not a very Tactically brilliant captain neither he had Really Unplayable bowlers but his sensible field placings & passion to do well overseas rubbed on to his team thereby resulting in some famous wins.. and regarding his 82, it was more of someone emerging as a rabbit in tortoise race

  • POSTED BY truecric_fan on | August 17, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    As long as India continue to do well in ODIs. T20 and Tests at home, who cares about our performance in Test Cricket - I assume this is what most of our star players are thinking.

  • POSTED BY _-Will-_ on | August 17, 2014, 4:47 GMT

    Premature but still...

    Well played England for all efforts post Lords. It is inspiring to see a captain and his men overcome personal and collective obstacles. Even more so when progress is translated into tangible results over a relatively short time frame. England must be commended.

    That India were insipid is not an issue for Cook or England to answer. England recovered from a rough ~12 month run, complete with media maelstroms, to play extremely well against the team they were allotted. To ask for more is beyond reason.

    England will undoubtedly face sterner opposition in the future. As will every test team. This scenario is not unique. That many English fans are able to wholeheartedly enjoy present successes, while still being mindful of creases that might need ironing out, is a testament to their good sense. Their conduct on these threads has also been largely exemplary.

    England have earned the right to hold their heads high. They have done justice to a test cricket series.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 4:45 GMT

    I would have preferred around 350 runs lead for england because there are actually 3 days left in this test and such leads give more freedom to the bowlers to try many different things and for captain cook too try varieties of filed placements etc putting more pressure on the batsmen but the special bowling spell by india in the post tea session getting several quick wickets took away some of the advantage from england's hands. At the end of the 2nd day even if less number of wickets fell say england was just 4 to 5 wickets down instead of 7 down as of now the lead would have been still around 230 to 250 because root, buttler etc still played well but those extra wickets could have helped today on the 3rd day to swell the lead further. Now with only 3 wickets in the hand I am not sure how many more england can add but a lead of 350 is what a true advantage with 3 full days left so england did lose some initiative in this test . Put your bestest effort england, Good lucks england!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 4:43 GMT

    today's objective for India - get England all out below 450 and start confidently getting 180 not more than 4 wkts! ! These kind of things will give some momentum to odis. .

  • POSTED BY RK.Chandru on | August 17, 2014, 4:32 GMT

    Btb, Ashwin chasing the ball (running like Bolt!?!) tickles my rib more than a Mr. Bean or a Chaplin comedy does... Shed 10, 20 kgs and work on your fitness or quit the game Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 4:30 GMT

    I dont why everyone singlehandedly blames Dhoni. He is the main reason for india's 148. He scored 4 50's in this series. With out him india would have been bowled out for mere 90 runs. Yes as a captain he made few mistakes ,but howcome can he win if kohli gambir and pujara keeps failing again and again. Y not ppl blame gambir and kohli. Always people wants MSD to leave test team.

  • POSTED BY bobbo2 on | August 17, 2014, 4:25 GMT

    Indian back to their usual test form. Can't play outside India.

  • POSTED BY sili on | August 17, 2014, 4:19 GMT

    One last time and in this last innings kohli and gambhir has to play fearlessly and play like a one day game even 50 from each will help instead of 0. Looking for some fighting spirit from India team.

  • POSTED BY wake_up_india on | August 17, 2014, 4:11 GMT

    Perhaps Ganguly, Dravid, Gavaskar and Engineer could be persuaded to come back from retirement and save this Test. They are all handy.

  • POSTED BY cricpanther on | August 17, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    A bit surprise to see when Dravid demonstrates weakness of Virat on Match Point after Virat's 6th time unsuccessful !!! I would droping Virat from Test should be happened later on but as of now its time to drop batting consultant Dravid!!! India doesn't want this type of consultants who does not help at any amount and have no effect as well!!!

  • POSTED BY cricfansince91 on | August 17, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    Really Surprised how Dhoni always manage to overlook key moments in a Test match?!!! With some momentum and two fairly new batsmen at crease at beginning of the post Tea-session could well have kept the lead under 150 but Dhoni chose to do 5 overs with Binny to wait for new ball instead of going all out for kill?!! this could have been accepted with a new captain but not with somebody who has been there for nearly a decade now and with a coach who apparently is considered very knowledgeable yet.!!!!! it is key moments captured like these which win you a game and not your weird "Instincts" and be rest assured our batting will collapse on Sunday itself because it is easier to combat a deficit of 150 than 300-350 which England would have courtsey our "Cool Captain".!!!! It will be REALLY surprising & sad if Dhoni is not kicked out of Indian Test team let alone being dropped from Captaincy!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 3:53 GMT

    It was Dhoniś mistake of not starting the new ball with Ishant and Aaron allowed root and Company to take charge. Time and again Dhoni does the wrong thing seeing Root was not able to handle Aaron he should have brought on Ishant from the other,specially when Kumar was not making any impact with gentle pace and allowing the batsmen to score more freely ! If after this series Dhoni is not dropped as Captain the Selection committee should resign and bring others. Bhuvi has been a spent force and looks tired and worn out. Binny has been the biggest thorn that the selectors has sewn into the team and that Dhoni picked him for this Test is shocking, specially when he says Binny can bowl a few overs, so can most of the other Players in the Team !

  • POSTED BY cricpanther on | August 17, 2014, 3:46 GMT

    I am not sure what Virat Kohli, Rahane, Vijay, MS Dhoni, Dhavan, Bhuvnesh Kumar, Ishant Sharma, are doing in Test cricket!!!!

  • POSTED BY subratachakrabarty on | August 17, 2014, 3:28 GMT

    I don't think there is slightest of the chance that India can come back in this game because in this current squad there ain't no Laxman and there ain't no Dravid. All the top order batsman are failing. It seems like they saw and held the bat for the first time. And Kohli is the utter disappointment. And I believe we got to take some blame ourselves. Whenever a player plays well, we give him so much of attraction that the player himself starts thinking high, focuses less on the game and more on autographs. Everyone is not Sachin Tendulkar and Rahul Dravid and everybody can't handle success and media attention staying on ground. Pujara seems to forgot that the bat at his hand is to play and not for show. Rahane should focus on playing grounded shots. English players had their coaching sessions and they had enough of catch practices. Gautam should retire. He is done and dusted. And MV can't get out cheaply everytime just b'coz u scored one century in start of the series.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 17, 2014, 3:10 GMT

    Why nobody discussing about the batting skills of ms dhoni even.so called best players of India like kholi,rahane and pyjama failed intros test.every body yelled about the dhoni's batting records of dhoni in test cricket but now he proved himself as a test batsman and justified his existence in this team.he is one of the best player India ever produced in all formats.

  • POSTED BY yogicoolboy on | August 17, 2014, 3:07 GMT

    Indians have to take a leaf out of the way laxman and dravid batted in kolkata test/ change of batting order may not be a bad idea.

  • POSTED BY yogicoolboy on | August 17, 2014, 3:02 GMT

    I feel it wont be a bad idea for a change of batting order. Change of batting order may bring them luck hopefully. They have to bat out of the skins to save this test match. They shouldnt look at the scoreboard. They have to bat as if they are batting in first innings not look at the scoreboard and play freely and bat with grit determination and show fighting spirit which was lacking in 3 matches. Hope it works well. Wont be bad idea to pujara to open as he always comes when the ball is swinging.Guatam should bat at 6. Hope it goes well. .All the batsman have to bat with grit and determination. They have to bat like dravid and laxman as they did in kolkata test. Good luck india

  • POSTED BY raviscreen on | August 17, 2014, 2:46 GMT

    Now that the writing is clear about the outcome of the series, I tend to feel that the Indian players will play more fearlessly,not to forget that they would have drawn inspiration from the women cricketers. Keeping with the traditions, India have managed to give an answer or two, if not win the series and I guess that the last innings is the one for that. Who knows if India can put up a decent second innings total and giving their spin bowlers about 150 runs to bowl out England in the fourth innings. The poms are not ready to face this...Go India Go...

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 2:43 GMT

    The Indian players excessive indulgence and over commitment to IPL has been the real cause of concern for their disasterous and humiliating performance in the Test cricekts.Instant fame,glory and money in the IPL have left many cricketers to abandon their passion and zeal for Test cricket.If BCCI is really bothered and concerned about saving the glory of test cricket in India,then they should set up eligibility and qualifying criteria for entrance of Indian players in the IPL-such as,only players who perform consistenly well in Test cricket should be given berth in IPL rather than doing it in the reverse way.Because of IPL,most Indian crickets lack in skills and applications required for Test cricket.They find hard to focus in the game for longer time,cantmaintain enuf stamina to slog in the ground for long and cant focus on techniques required for batting in test cricket.Its high time that our cricket board wake up to realise the realities eating into the performance of our team.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 2:42 GMT

    @Milind Pandit on (August 17, 2014, 1:55 GMT):

    At least in this series, batting & fielding let us down. Not bowlers.

    Bowlers performed far above expectations; especially the seam bowlers. Of course, in the spin dept, Jadeja turned about to be a zero penetration bowler & Ashwin is bowling far below his own standards. Moeen Ali, with no personal brand building, bowled far better than our two spinners.

  • POSTED BY Makkumatr on | August 17, 2014, 2:41 GMT

    India losing pathetically yet again with no intent is one thing, but the denial and complete lack of accountability seen in the Indian team setup is appalling. Unless players are docked their complete match fees on losing, they will treat Tests as stopgaps before ODIs and T20s.

  • POSTED BY Lets-bash-others on | August 17, 2014, 2:37 GMT

    2 sessions today are enough to get India out... Match gets over today... Innings defeat by atleast 150 runs... And again Indian MEN"S team will get 2 days of REST....

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 2:30 GMT

    @Milind Pandit on (August 17, 2014, 1:55 GMT):

    At least in this series, batting & fielding let us down. Not bowlers.

    Bowlers performed far above expectations; especially the seam bowlers. Of course, in the spin dept, Jadeja turned about to be a zero penetration bowler & Ashwin was far below his own standards. Moeen Ali, with no personal brand building, bowled far better than our two spinners.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 2:24 GMT

    Both teams are not the two best ones in the world, at the moment. Both have issues. But, at least in this series, England played better than India in all departments.

    Here's a major theme, which is not talked about as much as batting or bowling. There had been an uneven contest between England's superb slip fielding Vs India's slip-shod fielding. England dropped far less chances than the 'prolific' spillers, India.

    The fact that they benefited a bit MORE of the wrong umpiring decisions is just the icing over the cake; not the cake itself.

    Such benefits came even MORE from the shoddy fielding of India. For instance, Reiffel gave just an extra Cook for England. But between Vijay & Rahane , India gave two more Cooks. Incidentally, England disproved an old English saying, that: "Too many Cooks spoil the broth". Instead they used a better one: "More the Merrier".

    The series is moving towards a 3-1 result FOR England. For India, accepting that reality is the first step for progress.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 17, 2014, 1:55 GMT

    It's sheer foolishness to expect a team that always fails to play 90 overs and makes a mountain out of a molehill to take 20 wickets to do better. The Indian cricket board should give up playing its team all other games prior to IPL. Because IPL is the supreme kind of tournament India has ever produced. Ah, what a piece of innovation! Shame that the board has never believed in the primacy of the bowlers. Now face the consequences for the years to come. There is much in store for it now. A nation fraught with over a billion of populace yet cannot express itself on the grounds of sports. The game of cricket has simply devoured the native ones.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 1:48 GMT

    I think England has already taken enough lead as soon as Root got his hundred England should declare. because i am sure that India won't be able cross 200 runs. And at this moment England has already won the series. This is the pathetic and shameful performances from this Indian side. I think this team needs to quit playing test cricket in abroad. Every time it will be going to like this.

  • POSTED BY on | August 17, 2014, 0:29 GMT

    India have nothing much left in the test to turn around the tables.They are already staring at the inevitable loss.With three complete days to go in the match,even the rains wont be able to get in way between to turn around the matuch.Although its almost impossible for India to snatch a win from this stage,what they can do utmost is that they put up heroic and gritty batting display in their last innings .They must not give in to defeat so meekly and cowardly,but,instead,play sensibly and prudently with the bat so that they go down in the series with some honour.They must make England strive to earn victory instead of surrendering to them cheaply.

  • POSTED BY Silverbails on | August 17, 2014, 0:29 GMT

    England should declare soon. I can't imagine much more left in the Indian batting fuel tank now. The game should be over by the end of Day 3, I would imagine! Pathetic, sad lack of discipline and understanding of 'foreign' conditions, and India will finish 3 -1 in this Test series. These players only seem to play in the cash - incentivised ODI's and T20's. Never mind the true test of skill and patience which is Test cricket!! Sad and disappointing performance all - round. I really couldn't much care about the meaningless ODI's and T20 to come in this sad tour...

  • POSTED BY thozar on | August 16, 2014, 23:41 GMT

    India need to forget about the outcome of this test and bat like they have never batted before. If we are still batting on tea of the 4th day, that means we are safe and since England have to bat last on this pitch we may even have some advantage there. For that to happen we need to get quick wickets tomorrow morning. Lead should be restricted to no more than 250. Try to build a big opening partnership. Gambhir needs to rediscover his golden form in 2008 and 2009. Try to get to the end of the day for the loss of no more than 2 wickets and at the same time, erase 200 runs off their lead. If England want to win this test, they need to attack which means more scoring opportunities for us also. Bat positively. On the 4th day, try to get to the close for the loss of no more than 4 or 5 more wickets adding another 300 runs. That would give us a lead of 250. On the last day, just throw your bat and get another 80 and declare. England will fold under pressure. Not impossible. Go India!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 23:33 GMT

    Watched the last hour or so of the days play and it's fair to say that Root, Buttler and Jordan milked India like it was the middle overs of an ODI. Dhoni's field placements and bowling selections were poor and the bowlers didn't target the batsmen properly. Their bowling to Jordan was horrible - he's strong on the onside and all they gave him were balls he could whip to midwicket. Only occasionally did someone get it right and put it on his off-stump and then he had difficulty. They should've used Ashwin sooner as he'd've probably slowed down the scoring rate at least.

    Mooen is putting England in a dilemma: he gets out ridiculously, his defensive technique is horrible but his scoring shots are sublime and he's taking wickets.

    Anyway England need to to pound them into the ground tomorrow before lunch and bowl them out cheaply - leave India with a sense of despair like the last time they visited Old Blighty

  • POSTED BY thozar on | August 16, 2014, 23:32 GMT

    Most people simply do not understand test cricket. It is like they just look at the scorecard without watching the game. England may be comfortably ahead now but just rewind to what happened on the first day. England won the toss in overcast conditions and inserted India. Their bowlers were not great just steady and were helped by some poor batting to be honest. Jordan especially was extremely lucky to pick up all his 3 wickets. Then the sun shone but still our bowlers tested their opening batsmen and were very unlucky not to pick up Cook. Today also the sun shone and it made life easy for batsmen. Still our bowlers stuck to their task and picked up few wickets. Now imagine what if the reverse had happened. India would have been comfortably ahead probably for fewer wickets lost and more runs scored. Get some perspective fans. This is not an excuse. I am just spelling out the hard facts here. India bowled well but should watch out for the no-balls. The umpires let go a few today.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | August 16, 2014, 23:30 GMT

    I think Eng can get another 100. That would put Ind out of the match. Doubt if Eng need to bat in the 2nd innings. I am sure many true cricket fans would like to get over this one sided contest. Eng 100; Ind-0. I am not even going to bother what Ind does on this tour any more. Eng are far superior to Ind by light years. I request fans to invest their time elsewhere.

  • POSTED BY Pritt32 on | August 16, 2014, 23:21 GMT

    I am baffled why India played so badly following a bright start. No fight and spirit in the last test. Gifting the game to England. I am dissapointed India are playing like a club team. It is a sorrow site for Indian fans and deserve a refund. We need the days of 2002 and 2007 back, when India played with a spirit and passion. This team is letting the fans down.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 23:03 GMT

    Instead of Binny the all rounder they should have take B. Kumar and R. Aashwin as all rounders and keep another strike bowler that can give them the wickets when no one else seems to have any teeth.. An Umesh Yadav in place of Binny would have been perfect to break the monotony..

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 23:01 GMT

    I dont understand why every other bowler is getting to stay for ODI while Aaron the only bowler who looks threatening has to pack his bags.. and new non descriptive bowlers like Mohit Sharma take his place.. shouldnt they replace anyone else but Aaron if they have to.. and what was the point of bringing Ishwar Pandey and sending him back while leaving Umesh Yadav behind..

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 22:57 GMT

    Yes, the way things are going, this Test is likely to be over tomorrow, but I'm sure most supporters would love to see Kohli and Pujara show their ability. I suspect India will have to chase 300+ to make England bat again.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 22:45 GMT

    when touring overseas to play test matches india should select players like sehwag .performers like naman ojha should be put in playing eleven.why ishwer pandey was selected. on such a long tour fast bowlers must be rotated in order to keep them fresh and in form.Bhubaneswar is looking full of fatigue and colourless.a third defeat is on the card

  • POSTED BY reb1 on | August 16, 2014, 22:31 GMT

    After 2 tests, England made adjustments, and had players to back up those adjustments. Indian players feel that all they need to do is show up, and they should win. Every test, there are 3 or 4 Indian players that would not make it to any test team. After playing Anderson in the nets, Indian bowlers cannot possibly look dangerous to the English batsmen. Any improvement in the Indian side should begin with the thought that they lack skills, not form.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | August 16, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    Indian mens team a disgrace in that they dont have the fight of the past team. We need a NEW fighter like Bhajji used to be. Ashwin and Jadeja are the worst spin option. Virat Kohli has lost form - maybe his social life is affecting his game? Better we try a new set of players like Kedar, Ohja, Samson, Our current batsman have no fight and even the tailenders are batting better. Samson can take on the Sachin role - at number 4.

  • POSTED BY cricpanther on | August 16, 2014, 21:55 GMT

    Excellent to watch Joe Root batting!! After long time, looks like my most fav. batman Great Graham Gooch once again playing!!! Similar style, great to watch. Now Joe Root has to develop similar attitude when there is matter of run chase!! Whenever run chase require Joe Root lacks the temperament. When there is a matter of pilling up lead approach, Joe Root making centuries!!! Joe Root- New emerging Puma Panther!!!

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Indian shouldn't be given 5 test series in the future. Clearly not a competitive game being played as it was one way traffic. How will they cope against austarians in nov? Need to have a new coach or must allow coach to dictate the team. Feel sorry for the Indian cricket team as they once again bring battered by English.

  • POSTED BY osteo on | August 16, 2014, 21:25 GMT

    india need changes in upcoming westindies series. I prefer karn sharma,/parwez [who can ball and bat], sanju Samson[not for dhoni], rish dhawan[he can be used as 4th seamer in overseas]. some revolution needs forget about experience.

  • POSTED BY Terrk on | August 16, 2014, 21:11 GMT

    Still don't understand why we play Test cricket. It's boring, unprofitable and not marketable. Better off playing best of seven 20-20 cricket that's what I and my son want to see.

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | August 16, 2014, 21:06 GMT

    There is a good chance that this Test might be over on Sunday. India has batted for 45-60 overs or so in their last 3 outings. So, even if England were to bat for about 30 overs, India could still be all out before the day ends.

  • POSTED BY mickyvik on | August 16, 2014, 20:57 GMT

    In all my years of watching cricket, I have never seen such a gutless and demotivated batting line up. Even in the 70s and 80s in the face of the fiery pace of the windies, sunny, vishwanath, amarnath and yashpal made us proud. they must be shaking their heads in disgust right now.

  • POSTED BY mickyvik on | August 16, 2014, 20:51 GMT

    I guess this is when we miss the class of dravid, tendlya and viru. we took them for granted. big mistake.

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | August 16, 2014, 20:42 GMT

    Day 3 goals for the two teams:

    India - Restrict England's lead to 250-260. Bat rest of the day to score 200-250 for the loss of 3 wickets or less.

    England - Bat until lunch to extend lead to 350. Get at least 5 India wickets by close for 150-160.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 16, 2014, 20:35 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (August 16, 2014, 19:12 GMT) Root is going through a real purple patch right now but it may be unconnected with his batting position. Could just be that his form is good right now. Also there is a whole difference in quality between the attack he is facing now comp to the previous 2 series. I think he should stay at 5 as Cook has already proven he doesn't have the patience to keep going with him as an opener. Would be bizarre if Hales got a spot being that he was loaned out earlier in the year. I still fear (despite Ali's series) about our spin dept. In WI we may need 2 and I'm not sure we have 1. I get the hunch that India made Ali look better than he is

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 16, 2014, 20:34 GMT

    @Nampally on (August 16, 2014, 14:22 GMT) MSD seems to be an even more reactive captain than Cook in this format. Gambhir hasn't looked any better than Darwan and Binney is not bowling the overs to justify his selection. Maybe he will come on later in the game and prove MSD right or maybe there is some muddled thinking there

    @YorkshirePudding on (August 16, 2014, 19:32 GMT) You're not the first to comment on India's lack of intensity when warming up

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 16, 2014, 20:34 GMT

    @Siddharth Mohan on (August 16, 2014, 13:13 GMT) What you may notice - with both eyes open - is that Indian batsmen have also had the benefit of some friendly decisions in this series. In the last test there were 2 or 3 . The difference is that England batsmen - in the last couple of matches - have made the most of their fortune and gone on to make decent scores whereas Indian batsmen haven't prospered/capitalised.

    Also re the spin dept. Moeen Ali seems to have less issues. Could it possibly be that English batsmen are playing spin better than Indian batsmen? Just a couple of thoughts there

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 20:33 GMT

    indiaa!!! show sum passion.. u guys r way better than wat u performed..i still back my team to compete well wth australia..we play pace n bounce much better dan swing.. n pls provide dust bowls wen these teams tour to india..n include wkt taking spinners..

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 20:30 GMT

    What India is doing is killing the test format. With the tests becoming a one-sided affair by the 10th over, who would follow the torture for the next five days.

    Indians follow the cricket the most making the BCCI the richest club. When India loses, it hurts the whole format.

    I would rather watch five T20 matches than one of these one-sided boredom.

  • POSTED BY nursery_ender on | August 16, 2014, 20:26 GMT

    Posted by YorkshirePudding on (August 16, 2014, 19:32 GMT) I do wonder how much influence Fletcher has on the team, and selection of players.

    Quite clearly none whatsoever. His job is to do whatever Dhoni tells him without complaining. Reminiscent of Greg Chappell and Tendulkar.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    Why is dhoni letting virat kohli play 5 tests in the series while he dropped sehwagh for underperforming in just two tests against australia in 2013....i think needs to step down the test captaincy!!!!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 20:16 GMT

    this england team are not strong as 2011 team that beat india 4-0. india let the series slip after lords win and surrendered meakly.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 20:16 GMT

    There is no point in getting carried away for England.They are playing against the minnows India.Saffas,Aussies and the Kiwis will test their real strength.After all it's a contest between India's 1 batsman MSD vs England's 11(yup, this England team has no tail) and 1 Indian bowler Aaron vs England's 5 scary bowlers including Broad-The Zombie and Moenalitharan-The spin wizard.I doubt this Indian team will score above 50 in an innings against Mitch,Siddle,Pattinson.This is what happens when your best players are not picked in squad.No wonder BCCI wants a free seat in the Test Championship.

  • POSTED BY RipalParmar1 on | August 16, 2014, 20:14 GMT

    Indian men cricket team have put us to shame but at the same time Indian women cricket have made us feel proud by beating England in the first test. Well done ladies cricket team.

  • POSTED BY JRP100 on | August 16, 2014, 20:06 GMT

    India have been seriously under par on top of not being test material, only Aaron has the pace to cause world class international batsmen trouble and he does not have the brain to be a consistent wicket taker. Shocking how they are making root and ballance look like future greats when they are in fact no better than the mediocre bowler bully that is Ian bell. Put these guys against genuine world class bowlers (the likes of steyn ambrose Walsh mcgrath..) and see them fail. But as they will only be tested against those types of bowlers maybe 15 tests out of their 130 test careers, their records at a large will be spared and they will be made to look like greats... A real tragedy that they will be compared to the likes of mark waugh and laxman in the near future.

  • POSTED BY Herath-UK on | August 16, 2014, 19:52 GMT

    There is no fight & no thrill in watching the match only the weather can spoil it. Sri Lanka's two Tests were nail biting finishes giving the Test cricket a real injection. The next Sri Lankan series should be a four Test series. Sri Lanka now beating Pakistan at home it is the best current Test team in the subcontinent.

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | August 16, 2014, 19:52 GMT

    Trott and Phil Hughes from Australia really do need some test matches against India to get some form and confidence, maybe a world 11 of out of form players Kohli could captain the world 11

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 19:46 GMT

    England are on top and the confidence is flowing through even with the mini collapse. However this is a beaten India team so some realism is required, Australia will not be so soft next summer. Some Indian players reputations have been clipped, at least donni has some fight

  • POSTED BY mickyvik on | August 16, 2014, 19:46 GMT

    I am baffled. After the first two tests, it appeared that both teams were on an even keel. What changed during the third test that India began playing like a third rate club team? Either england lifted their game several hundred notches or India dropped theirs.

  • POSTED BY Kotuwegogoda on | August 16, 2014, 19:44 GMT

    India's problem seem setting spin friendly wickets to blunt England,Aussies, Kiwis, Proteas and Windies. This deprive their own players getting exposure to green top wickets. This is not a problem for India alone but Srilanka,Bangladesh and Pakistan.

    If domestic completions in the longer format is held in bouncy tracks as well as spin friendly tracks players will naturally get an exposure or key players should sign up TTC play county cricket in England, Shield Cricket in Australia and similar longer for at cricket in South Africa during off season. Another way to find a solution is to limit lucrative IPL. This is a major turnaround and whether BCCI would have the concurrence from all quarters to to trim and increase the appetite and incentives for 4 and 5 days cricket with sporty wickets.

    As England batting unfolded end of day two, India will have to get England all out under 400 and bat third and fourth days. This will show then their true character.

  • POSTED BY rickyvoncanterbury on | August 16, 2014, 19:41 GMT

    Normally Karma comes to mind for me when I read comments from Indian supporters when they play overseas, but now I really do feel sorry for them, but on a positive note it probably cannot get any worse. see you in Australia... oh hang on maybe it can.

  • POSTED BY cricket_lover1 on | August 16, 2014, 19:36 GMT

    Looks like its a replay of 4th test. Dhoni said we learned a lot from 4th test. What a big Joke. Bowlers are not bowling in right areas, batsmen not scoring, slip catching pathetic. What they are doing about that? What is the role of the coach? Can they wake up?this is the last test match sir. Replacing players is not enough, their approach should be corrected. Please read these comments from cricket fans.....

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | August 16, 2014, 19:32 GMT

    Its difficult to know where to start, I've been at the oval for the last 2 days, and watch both teams in the field and batting, along with the warm ups.

    India really need to watch the intensity with which england prepare in the mornings and take those ideas away with them and start doing the same types of things. THey might even improve their slip catching.

    I do wonder how much influence Fletcher has on the team, and selection of players, because this version of Fletcher isnt the same one that took control of the England team and installed Nas as captain. I expect things will come to a head for him in the next 12 months and he'll walk away.

    I would also advocate dropping Dhoni as Keeper and pick him as a batsman and put him at first slip. but that was down to something Simon hughes pointed out, like Dhonis reluctance to take catches to his right so has a narrow slip cordon.

  • POSTED BY TomDeSailor on | August 16, 2014, 19:30 GMT

    The way the Indian team is playing is this series, I have lost interest in watching the match at all.. Their bowlers are really bowling well, by that I mean-Bhuvi,Aaron & Ashwin, Binny, Ishant & Jadeja should have not even in the squad.. Dhoni deserved to lose the series for his team & squad selection.. Hope he atleast gives up captaincy & keeping after this series.. The whole team is lacking a fighting attitude.. The captain himself is all at sea where test cricket is concerned.. That is showing on the whole team too.. But that's not an excuse for the batsmen who are an utter failure.. Dhoni should stop keeping wickets & bring in Saha or Ojha or Samson.. Ishant n Jadeja should never feature in a test squad, ever.. kohli should stick to ODIs.. Pujara will come back.. Rahane should bat in Kohli's position.. Dhoni should come at 5.. then followed by a keeper..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 19:19 GMT

    lolz on harsha bhogle comment..."indian slip cordon seems to be easiest place in the world for batsman to play his shots"

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 16, 2014, 19:16 GMT

    @Siddharth Mohan: I'm not sure if you've noticed, but Moeen Ali has 19 wickets in this series so far. That doesn't sound too unfriendly to spinners to me- or is it just Indian spinners to whom wickets are unfair? Incidentally, Ashwin has 2 wickets since you wrote this.

    I do sympathize with you over the Alastair Cook lbw, though. If only there were some way we could use the technology that enabled you to see that Cook should have been given out to review umpire's decisions.

    Oh, and Dravid, good player that he was, is 41 years old. I'm guessing he wouldn't be quite as sharp in the slips now as he was in his prime.

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 16, 2014, 19:12 GMT

    Robson getting out to a straight ball will no doubt ensure the mumbling going on that he should be replaced. Bell was out to a good ball, but as usual the same culprits are after his neck despite him being one of the best fielders and solid middle-order players in the game. Only worry/pity for me is England might not need to bat again this game, so that might be the last we ever see of Robson holding a bat in test whites. Compton would be my choice if England insist on a replacement opener, but the shouts for Hales are getting louder and more numerous every day.

  • POSTED BY Indiaforever on | August 16, 2014, 19:03 GMT

    India are gonna be trailing b 260+ in their second innings. All I ask is that they fight for their wickets and don't just poke outside off stump and get caught. The key is the opening partnership, time for both of them (esp Gauti) to get a score. You feel unless he can do something very very special his test career is pretty much over. Please India, just fight it out for a bit and take it to the 4th day. If we get a good start then you never know what could happen. If Pujara and Kohli come in when the ball is a bit older then they have a good chance to get some runs (hopefully).

  • POSTED BY hhillbumper on | August 16, 2014, 19:00 GMT

    Seen a comment here from an Indian fan about how they will win in one dayers. Guess that sums it all up.no patience or skill.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 18:56 GMT

    stopped watching test after 4th test. sack entire indian team batsman and fletcher also

  • POSTED BY La_Bangla on | August 16, 2014, 18:55 GMT

    @Srawan Kumar P - Process is more important not results

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | August 16, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    With India facing another uphill task of overcoming the first innings deficit in the range of 300+, what "Process" will Dhoni to avoid a possible Second innings defeat in a Row! When "Results" don't matter why play any Tests at all? Dhoni's "process" first shifted the momentum from India to England after their defeat at the Old Trafford. Now he has let England treat India like a "Minnows" Team unfit to be in the same League as England. The Indian Selectors need to be careful in choosing the Next Test Captain, who Must have a winning attitude & approaches every Match & series with this attitude. Today Indians looked like a "Beaten Lot"- with no grit. Having Shami in place of Binny would have at least given this team another wkt. taker. Have the top 5 Bats got the Guts to fight back & total >400? That is the Huge ?.Indian Cricket Women's team beat England today- cause to celebrate Indian Independence day. What is wrong with Dhoni's Team ? Paid "Pros" Lose - Whilst "Amateur Women" Win!

  • POSTED BY AltafPatel on | August 16, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    If India given 3 more innings then also they can not avoid innings defeat. Dhoni, Fletcher and team will be having horrifying nightmare, not for this series, for upcoming Aus tour where they are going to face bloody Johnson, Patinsen, Cummins, Harris, Siddle on their own soil !

  • POSTED BY SohailMirza on | August 16, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    I felt India really needed a better test captain who can make best use of the youngsters ... Vijay, Rehane and Dhawan are good talent and will be better with passage of time.. probably they should start looking to play county cricket more often... I would suggest to appoint Rehane as test captain and replace dhoni by Naman Ojha or Sanju Samson... Kohli should focus only on ODIs as he is not test product...he is badly exposed... SL recently had very good show at England..

  • POSTED BY AltafPatel on | August 16, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    Game is over for India. The only challenge remains is to avoid innings loss.

  • POSTED BY amilag on | August 16, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    England should declare now! They can win this match more 100 runs margin if they do so! Zim showing great fight than this so called team India! They are test status should be ripped off or they should not go outside India for playing matches!

  • POSTED BY neo-galactico on | August 16, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    Ian Bell must be the most frustrating batsman in the English line-up. For a player of such good technique and elegant stroke play his inconsistency is baffling. Worst of all his spot on the team is never questioned (perhaps rightfully so?). Soon we'll get another "coming-of-age" article on Bell again for the umpteenth time. Cooks needs runs too, he's living a charmed life way to often. The kind of security he offered Eng is all but gone. Robson time should be over for mine, he's technically inept. Root is shaping up to be a good batsman, sterner challenges await though. Overall, a great day for England.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    In this team most players are not set for the test cricket outside the sub continent.Test matches should be re scheduled to 3 days when Dhoni and this team is playing.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 18:33 GMT

    India should remove ishant, Binny and Jadeja from test squad and try to bring more specialist in the team, Dhoni is ok with available talent,

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    I love the fact that the Indian comments are either "sack xyz" or "Don't play tests outside India". In tune with the spineless performances of your team I see.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 18:29 GMT

    BCCI put all IPL heroes to the front while putting real test heroes in to rest and out of form . With a world cup at door step this slide is not good .

  • POSTED BY Ragpad on | August 16, 2014, 18:28 GMT

    As David aptly stated, India's unmitigated hubris and nonchalance are the reasons for its abysmal failure. To rectify this glaring idiocy, my suggestions are as follows: Fire the entire coaching staff, for Indians are absolutely no good at any department - be it batting, fielding, and bowling. Further, get rid of Kholi; place Pujara and vijay on probation for one more match; develop "close-in" fielding technique for both pace and spin, thereby putting the batsman under tremendous pressure; teach the players not to cower, when ball comes straight at them (both Gambhir and Pujara are notoriously scared of the balls; then, why are they at silly?!) Indians do not need scaredy cats. Discipline Dhoni for not being at the nets before the match - shows terrible leadership.; his hobbies are for his own time, not while he is on the clock.

  • POSTED BY sepultura.31 on | August 16, 2014, 18:22 GMT

    I'm sure India's going to loose this test too (and the series). I hope they show some guts and fight it out in the 2 nd innings rather than falling like nine pins. Congratulations to England, they have a comprehensively defeated India in every department of the game. However I would like to point out that Cook and Bell's woes have hardly disappeared- IMO it's only India's disgusting bowling and fielding that have given them a breather and a better opponent like Aus or SA will make life hell for them. I hope both of them take some time off and correct their issues or else itS going to be very hard for them in the coming Ashes.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 18:18 GMT

    Please don't send indian boys outside the sub continent to play test matches.Sehwag is most talented batsman in the world.We want to see him in the test squads.

  • POSTED BY cktspirit on | August 16, 2014, 18:18 GMT

    The show is very disappointing. I have not seen a more spineless display, probably barring England tour in 2011. Even the SA 2013 tour seemed better, there was a sense of fight. All I see now is a bunch of very talented youngsters mismanaged. Lack of application and commitment is striking, I am speechless about the kind of processes management is happy with.

  • POSTED BY DanielRob on | August 16, 2014, 18:08 GMT

    Looks 3-1 from here on and another innings defeat on the cards. I wonder how much Dhoni thinks his so called "Process" has improved. For me it has gone worse, from 1-0 losses in RSA and NZ to 3-1 in ENG. But I am damn sure that he will say that his team has improved and this tour has been a good learning curve for his team. Sack Fletcher ASAP otherwise this Indian side would be mauled Down Under later this year. Dhoni must also be replaced as the skipper, which won't happen I know but I feel that series we will see Dhoni leading for the last time in all whites.

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | August 16, 2014, 18:05 GMT

    Indian People are losing interest in cricket, Kabaddi is overtaking cricket in India.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 18:01 GMT

    Test matches should be re scheduled to 3 days when INDIA is playing.............."P

  • POSTED BY crazycric67 on | August 16, 2014, 17:54 GMT

    Well, the final rituals of another Indian humiliation is being carried out by England at The Oval. Indian bowlers have leaked at nearly 4.5 runs per over today as if they wanted to declare solidarity with the batsmen who failed to score even 150 runs. Another 3 day finish is on the cards. Most probably India will spare England the trouble of batting again. Well done boys!!!!.

    A request to BCCI : Please cancel the Australian tour or for that matter don't send our boys outside the sub continent to play test matches. We will better watch street cricket.

  • POSTED BY HolyShmoly on | August 16, 2014, 17:42 GMT

    @wapsuer - with 300 runs Eng will win by a test to spare, the best comment I have seen...while it sounds funny it could very well be true with this Indian team. Hopefully Eng can declare after the 1st session and roll over India in 2 sessions. It will be another 3 day weekend test and I can go back to work on Monday. According to Dhoni it is the "PROCESS" that matters, surely the "PROCESS" worked because they batted 17 more overs in the 1st innings here than at Old Trafford.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 17:42 GMT

    Like Michael Holding was told by one of the senior cricketer, will India analyze their performance in England..... NO....who has the time and patience for analysis, just move on to the next series.....that's how India is....absorb and move on

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Did someone say with 300 England will win with an innings to spare? What rubbish! With 300 they will win with a test match to spare.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 17:20 GMT

    Ashwin and Jadeja are very overrated. Can't we find better spinner in India? where is the Kumble, Bajji type of talent. Look how Herath got 9 wickets in a flat pitch where world class Ajmal was struggling to get just one wicket.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 17:16 GMT

    Now I don't know what is the comment from dhoni abt this test match with again innings defeat with huge amt of runs looks now lead by 220 runs I don't know they india gonna take that and if they then aftr tht putting some decent lead:m vijay remove ur googles don't sleep

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 16, 2014, 17:15 GMT

    Who is Penkat?

  • POSTED BY VillageBlacksmith on | August 16, 2014, 17:08 GMT

    Bell as usual an ineffective liability, his dolly drop cost over 50 runs, but he can only score 7 against this…. time for a change with bell… replace the old passenger (with the one off ton in over 20 inns) with the new…. EG A Lyth or J Taylor… the new are all performing, bell certainly isn't..

  • POSTED BY KolonnaweKing on | August 16, 2014, 17:05 GMT

    Congratulations Eng heading for a 3-1 series victory. But be aware of ODIs against them. Dhoni, call Raj.

  • POSTED BY godaganesh on | August 16, 2014, 17:04 GMT

    I don't know why India is not included any left arm pace bowler and a slow left arm spin bowler. What happened to irfan pathan.

  • POSTED BY BuddyCry on | August 16, 2014, 17:04 GMT

    This is over-kill from England, 200 lead is more than enough.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 17:03 GMT

    India should develop some technically correct players into proper test players. Pay them well so that they don't play to impress the franchise owners even during test matches. And keep them away from IPL.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 16, 2014, 17:03 GMT

    India will square the series iv got a good feeling about this

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | August 16, 2014, 17:01 GMT

    what was binny picked for ? this could have been Penkat's game for 10 wicket haul !

    list of great bowlers who started just as BAD as Penkat ...

    (1) Marshall (2) Warne (3) Ambrose

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 17:01 GMT

    India have been paying the price for not accepting DRS.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 17:00 GMT

    see Ind women's team won test match against eng women. but still no support for women's team.

  • POSTED BY joypulikken on | August 16, 2014, 16:59 GMT

    Try for One day match.. Just pray nd try for one day international.. Practice practice makes better for indian team..small small changes in practice sessions especially in fielding...

  • POSTED BY android_user on | August 16, 2014, 16:58 GMT

    Ind ready to accept another innings defeat. sorry. what happened to young guns

  • POSTED BY SanjeevHN on | August 16, 2014, 16:58 GMT

    It's time to move on for India especially the captain and the management including all the coaches and support staff. I guess the selectors are not compitent and bold enough to drop some players. They keep on picking bowlers who bowl in 120kph range. I guess there is no catagory as really slow bowlers. What Umesh Yadav is doing in India. Please pick bowlers with pace. I mean those who bowl ith average spped in the range of 140kmph. Bowlers like Bhwanesh Kumar can be 4th bowler but never be out and out strike bowler. We need 5 bowlers all the way through, 4 fast bowlers and 1 wrist spinner. Please try out Shreyas Gopal and Kuldeep Yadav in the home series. Jadeja is home pitch king but not suitable for overseas. There is case for K.L.Rahul and Kedar Jadhav

  • POSTED BY joypulikken on | August 16, 2014, 16:58 GMT

    Hello BCCI, Kindly send any Ranji Team for Outside India match. Very shameful to India..

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 16, 2014, 16:47 GMT

    Great job England had the sense to move Root back down into the middle order. Opener in tests, he is not. So comfortable and fluent in the middle order, epitomised by yet another 50. Hopefully England can go on and get a lead of ~250 now. The best fielders in this innings have been the pigeons...

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | August 16, 2014, 16:41 GMT

    If Eng can stretch the lead to 300+, which I think is quite possible, Ind will be looking at an innings defeat which is an apt result given their batting blues through out the series, not withstanding a lucky win at Lords.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | August 16, 2014, 16:33 GMT

    The players should stop worrying about the Champions league. I think they are spending too much time discussing plans for the Champions league. After all that's where the money comes from. Playing for nation is a pastime. Their real hearts lie with their franchise

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | August 16, 2014, 16:33 GMT

    I am from Pakistan.But i am a cricket fan and even i can identify the issues with Indian team..I can see where is their weakness in bowling.Where is Zahir Khan,Shammi Ahmed & Umesh Yadav,.Dhoni could have tried all of these bowlers.Just relying on Ishant Sharma who fires once in 10 or so matches.He is such an unreliable bowler.B.Kumar..He is a skilled bowler but lacks experience.He's still learning. In Batting,team India was totally flop.Only Dhoni scored some runs but all those runs were a slog show.Good tactics when score is less than 50 & 8 batsmen are already down..lol.

  • POSTED BY Chandima.Ceylon on | August 16, 2014, 16:30 GMT

    Indian fans over estimated the indian batting power at the begining. they belived Virat Koli can pass 300.Virat is a popular flat track bully. Anyhow they had to be simply happy with the single test victory.

  • POSTED BY PeerieTrow on | August 16, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    Now that is fascinating @Yousufahmed11; thanks for that. I'll work the Eng/Ind balance out properly at the end of this test and see if there is somewhere appropriate to post it on cricinfo.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    I like the the way the Indians play cricket in England, not 5 tests they should be given a one off. cant bat against pace and spin of moeen and too lethargic in the field.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | August 16, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    Innings defeat is inescapable again?

  • POSTED BY Yuosufahmed on | August 16, 2014, 15:45 GMT

    @JellybeanYorker: Yes, I agree with you. Statement of the pitches is very baseless. Same you said true for the match between Pak and SL as well. Based on my quick calculation, in that match so far, spinners bowled 152 (60%) overs and seam 104 (40%) overs. Of a total of 22 wickets, 14 (63%) fell to spin and 8 (37%) to seam. Quite balance, isn't it?

  • POSTED BY thozar on | August 16, 2014, 15:36 GMT

    Good fight back from India. Aaron is awesome. He should have played every test of this series and maybe the result would have been different. Clocking 90mph consistently, he is India's biggest positive of this series. He has troubled every batsmen and I expect more of this from him in Oz series too. Good thing for us Indian fans is he has clearly said that he won't sacrifice speed for line and length. I have lost count of how many times Ishant has dismissed Bell who is clearly having problems against Ishant. It is proved by the fact that the only times Bell scored any runs was when Ishant was not playing.

    Come on India, bundle them out for under 300 and we have a match in our hands although we need to fight hard

  • POSTED BY Retour on | August 16, 2014, 15:26 GMT

    In this game too, Ind is missing 1 more pacer to keep the pressure on to dismiss eng quickly. How long can Ind afford to have Dhoni-Fletcher for the tests?

  • POSTED BY Retour on | August 16, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    Good to see Varun amongst wickets. He should have been in the playing 11 earlier. Umesh should have been in the squad too considering he can bounce Eng out too like Ishant. Can't believe Pankaj Singh was picked in the squad, let alone in the playing 11.

    The strategic and selection blunders that Ind have made have instrumental in Ind's sub-par performances.

  • POSTED BY Mani_CricketFan on | August 16, 2014, 15:20 GMT

    What is wrong with Ashwin ? He is bowling middle and leg to right hand batsman. Why doesn't he bowl just outside off and turn it from there ? He is giving away too many easy singles with his line.

  • POSTED BY sumit1982 on | August 16, 2014, 14:48 GMT

    If England poses 200 runs leads .Seeing the performance of Indian batting these match will be over by day 3 if their no rain.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | August 16, 2014, 14:46 GMT

    Eng should declare now.100 runs lead is more than enough for India.Even with this 100 runs lead..This match would be over tomorrow with an inngs defeat for India.

  • POSTED BY PeerieTrow on | August 16, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    I see it differently, @Mani_CricketFan. This is TEST cricket, and in the bigger picture England are in the driving seat both in the series and this match. England first need to achieve a position from which it is difficult to lose the match, and hence the series. If India want to draw the series they need to go for the win. It's not a case of England being defensive, it's a case of Cook doing what we require of him as captain.

  • POSTED BY whirlaway on | August 16, 2014, 14:29 GMT

    England slump from 192-1 to 229-5. But the lead is already 81. Maybe 200 runs should be enough?

  • POSTED BY Mani_CricketFan on | August 16, 2014, 14:28 GMT

    England too defensive here. They should declare with 100 run lead and try to bowl India out and win by innings. Seems so straightforward and easy with the form India is. I wonder if India can survive even 2 sessions.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | August 16, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    India is already a weak batting team made weaker by carrying 2 passengers in Gambhir & Binny. How on earth Dhoni justifies the selection of these club level players when he benches specialist bowlers & batsmen like Shami, Dhawan, Rohit Sharma & N.Ojha? India has just one class pace bowler Aaron. Even he is not getting the support of the fielders with dropped catches. These are highly paid professional players playing like Club level Cricketers. No 100% effort given either in batting, Bowling or fielding. From 66 for 6 in the previous 2 innings at Old Trafford to 44 for 6 at the Oval in batting. I think Indian Women's Team under Raj- all amateurs- showed how a match is Won with their great 6 wkt. Victory over fully Professional England squad. Dhoni & Men's Team- Take a Page out of Indian Women's team & match their guts & determination. It is the Result that matter NOT the "Process" Dhoni. Your mind needs resetting to the expectations of Indian Nation on its Independence Day!.

  • POSTED BY PeerieTrow on | August 16, 2014, 14:07 GMT

    @Siddharth Mohan: I question your statement about the pitches, and here's why. In the four tests in this series to date a combined total of 1375 overs were bowled by both sides. Of those 327 (24%) were spin and 1048 (76%) were seam. Of a total of 128 wickets, 31 (24%) fell to spin and 97 (76%) fell to seam. Now that looks a pretty fair balance between spin and seam to me. CAVEAT: These calcs were done on a crowded train using cricinfo's match reports and the figures for overs were rounded ie 24.4 = 25, so I wouldn't bet my house on them but look forward to cricinfo's stasguru telling me I'm right or wrong.

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | August 16, 2014, 14:01 GMT

    Well done to India - best cricket coaches in the world. Only their skill & determination could haves saved Cook's career. India are the ambulance men of cricket. They will give an ailing captaincy CPR and bring it back from beyond death - truly the last miracle workers of cricket!

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 13:52 GMT

    funny excuse of Indian fans are making is this Indian team is inexperienced and young.(truth is they neither inexperienced nor young as they said) India has billions of people their religion is cricket and still unable to fine 11 players to win a match (or perform just to get rid of the shame) bottom line is country should produce a team to fight with any opposition even how their status is they send these 11 because they believe that these players are more than capable of experienced players and when they fail don't bring lame excuses that they are young you are making yourselves shameful

  • POSTED BY Yuosufahmed on | August 16, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    Women cricket match was more competitive than this one. I wonder why India drop some of their flat track bullies and take Raj, Mandana and few others from the women team.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | August 16, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    Just seen what seems to be 50th Ind drop catch in series!To no 1's surprise that it has been dropped @ 1st slip.Vijay the guilty 1 this time.Cook the beneficiary.With already couple of lives this inngs.,and with luck with him,hope he makes it really big.

  • POSTED BY Shueb on | August 16, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    Obituary of the Indian Cricket Team Dear All, With great grief we would like to announce the inevitable series loss in a day or two, please join for live action & experience the pain. MSD & Co.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    It is also sad to see the way pitches are created these days. In Sri Lanka, Herath is having a lot of fun with the pitches helping spinners. A good pitch is one which should help both speedsters and spinners. Ashwin can only be used as a specialist batsman in this series. He will not get even one single wicket. He should have been asked to open the innings with Vijay (who is now back to his own self finally), Gambir should have been dropped and they should have included Naman Ojha who has come from a great series in Australia where the balls did swing.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    Please bring back Dravid. We will have someone who can catch balls in the slip area. It is a shame that catches (or non-catches) like the one root took off Ashwin happened in the same game where the drops like Vijay's happen too. Cook who was completely out of form has been helped by India to regain form and also with a little help from the umpire. Cook was plum in front off Kumar. Give me chances like this. Against this ineefective Indian attack I can score centuries.

  • POSTED BY Balancer on | August 16, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    We just keep talking about batting and bowling! What about slip fielding? How are bowlers going to get wickets unless slip fielders get those sitters? Ohh the poor state of Indian cricket!

  • POSTED BY Parousia on | August 16, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    The Indian bowling attack is bowling rubbish.. Except for the occasional deliveries from Aaron none of them look threatening, more like a club attack

  • POSTED BY PeerieTrow on | August 16, 2014, 12:54 GMT

    Due to the unreliability of Robson, Cook and Balance have effectively been operating as England's opening partnership. If Trott has got himself 'sorted' by April 2015 I would suggest that the England top three should be Cook, Ballance and Trott.

  • POSTED BY henchart on | August 16, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    Indians are shaping up well-for a big Innings defeat.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 16, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    One big difference between these two sides is in stamina. England has played 7 tests this Summer with barely a break, but they still look much fresher and able to keep going than the Indian squad. Too much short-format cricket isn't going to equip players with the match-fitness they need for test cricket.

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  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 16, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    One big difference between these two sides is in stamina. England has played 7 tests this Summer with barely a break, but they still look much fresher and able to keep going than the Indian squad. Too much short-format cricket isn't going to equip players with the match-fitness they need for test cricket.

  • POSTED BY henchart on | August 16, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    Indians are shaping up well-for a big Innings defeat.

  • POSTED BY PeerieTrow on | August 16, 2014, 12:54 GMT

    Due to the unreliability of Robson, Cook and Balance have effectively been operating as England's opening partnership. If Trott has got himself 'sorted' by April 2015 I would suggest that the England top three should be Cook, Ballance and Trott.

  • POSTED BY Parousia on | August 16, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    The Indian bowling attack is bowling rubbish.. Except for the occasional deliveries from Aaron none of them look threatening, more like a club attack

  • POSTED BY Balancer on | August 16, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    We just keep talking about batting and bowling! What about slip fielding? How are bowlers going to get wickets unless slip fielders get those sitters? Ohh the poor state of Indian cricket!

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    Please bring back Dravid. We will have someone who can catch balls in the slip area. It is a shame that catches (or non-catches) like the one root took off Ashwin happened in the same game where the drops like Vijay's happen too. Cook who was completely out of form has been helped by India to regain form and also with a little help from the umpire. Cook was plum in front off Kumar. Give me chances like this. Against this ineefective Indian attack I can score centuries.

  • POSTED BY on | August 16, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    It is also sad to see the way pitches are created these days. In Sri Lanka, Herath is having a lot of fun with the pitches helping spinners. A good pitch is one which should help both speedsters and spinners. Ashwin can only be used as a specialist batsman in this series. He will not get even one single wicket. He should have been asked to open the innings with Vijay (who is now back to his own self finally), Gambir should have been dropped and they should have included Naman Ojha who has come from a great series in Australia where the balls did swing.

  • POSTED BY Shueb on | August 16, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    Obituary of the Indian Cricket Team Dear All, With great grief we would like to announce the inevitable series loss in a day or two, please join for live action & experience the pain. MSD & Co.

  • POSTED BY electric_loco_WAP4 on | August 16, 2014, 13:15 GMT

    Just seen what seems to be 50th Ind drop catch in series!To no 1's surprise that it has been dropped @ 1st slip.Vijay the guilty 1 this time.Cook the beneficiary.With already couple of lives this inngs.,and with luck with him,hope he makes it really big.

  • POSTED BY Yuosufahmed on | August 16, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    Women cricket match was more competitive than this one. I wonder why India drop some of their flat track bullies and take Raj, Mandana and few others from the women team.