India in England 2014 August 18, 2014

Bhuvneshwar dragged down by the rest

India's marks out of ten after their 3-1 defeat in the Tests against England
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7.5

Bhuvneshwar Kumar
Bowled his heart out. Stayed accurate and skilful. Took 19 wickets at 26.63. Scored 247 runs. Saved Trent Bridge, won Lord's. Couldn't have done much more with his physique and strength.

6.5

Ishant Sharma
Rare India bowler who could cause discomfort with pace and bounce. Added accuracy and perseverance to his spirit. Won India Lord's with a hostile spell despite pain in his leg. Loses half a mark for getting injured at the wrong time. Fourteen wickets at 27.21 in three Tests.

6

M Vijay
Began superbly at Trent Bridge and at Lord's, deserved a century in India's victory. Left, left and left until the bowlers bowled at him. Lost his focus in the last three Tests, a soft run-out in the second innings in Southampton his low point.

Ajinkya Rahane
Least celebrated among the India batsmen, yet their batting's backbone. His Lord's hundred took the game away from England. A little loose outside off, which he will need to watch over the rest of his career.

5

MS Dhoni
Showed his specialist batsmen you don't always need a proper technique to score runs. Mental strength, discipline, hunger and bloody-mindedness can be enough. Took many a blow on his body but never gave up his wicket. Same couldn't be said of his keeping, which degenerated after Lord's. His keeping was almost poor.

Varun Aaron
Should have played when Ishant first broke down, but showed good pace and aggression despite having gone through a few stress fractures. Could be a handful if he becomes accurate and stays fit.

4.5

Ravindra Jadeja
Played an important hand in the Lord's win, but remained ineffective with the ball and in the slips. His bowling will have to improve a lot for him to be seen as a Test player outside Asia.

R Ashwin
Got only two chances, and then had to bowl with fewer than 200 on the board. Yet good signs were there: he has gone more side on, has been flighting the ball more, and has used fewer variations. Batting remains good as ever.

3.5

Stuart Binny
A noble experiment, but shouldn't have continued for three Tests. Bowling not good enough for a bowling allrounder. Batting not much better, yet he played a part in saving Trent Bridge.

Pankaj Singh
Desperately unlucky in his first Test but didn't bowl enough good balls for a man his pace; and didn't bowl fast enough for a man his build.

Cheteshwar Pujara
Got starts early in the tour but failed to convert them. Then when the starts weren't forthcoming, couldn't break out of the rut. Needs to work on his technique, get the back foot to move and the bat to come down straighter.

2

Mohammed Shami
Came to England as India's brightest fast-bowling hope. Didn't have the same zip as earlier, kept giving away loose balls down the leg side. Bowling coach Joe Dawes said he had lost his run-up. They couldn't correct it and he was dropped.

Virat Kohli
India's big batting hope, the one man who could dominate once he got going. But he was exposed outside off and couldn't find a way either to hit or grind his way out of poor form. Needs work on his technique.

Shikhar Dhawan
The jack in the box refused to come out. Kept being dimissed poking outside off. Was hoped to play the Sehwag kind of role; was dropped after three Tests.

Rohit Sharma
Looked decent in the first innings of his only Test of the series, but threw it away with a poorly timed shot. Wasn't played again.

1

Gautam Gambhir
Looked a pale shadow of the batsman he had once been, never threatening to build a longish innings. Played four innings, scored 25 runs; some said an average of 6.25 flattered him.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on August 22, 2014, 9:35 GMT

    Binny is a batting all-rounder. He's played that role in his entire career. Please do not confuse with this Dad, Roger, who was a bowling all-rounder @ the international level.

  • on August 22, 2014, 7:49 GMT

    I disagree with Ashwin. As you said, he bowled well and batted better. Only reason he didnt make more of an impact was because he didnt get a chance.

    I was going to say Gautum should get a 0, but he actually deserves a point since this performance should hopefully mean he will now never play for India ever again.

  • on August 21, 2014, 10:45 GMT

    Pretty harsh on Ashwin I think he was worth at least 6. Added runs a few times when his team were in real trouble and bowled pretty tidily if not very dangerously.

  • on August 20, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    Well said fans.......its time to move on...dhoni should nt be in test team.unlike others dhoni s nt a proper testbatsmen.captaining and wicketkeeping has earned his test place which now has been diminished.Its better dhoni 2 have another worldcup in his hand in Australia for us instead in test team.

  • TRAM on August 19, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    I wouldn't want MSD as a pure batsman in the team. I dont think he is going to field well in any position. So lets bring Saha, the best keeper in India (those who dont know please watch his keeping in videos). Saha has also recently proven as good batsman and scoring fast, if that matters. Nothing wrong in bringing up Sanju Samson, but it would be too early for him and also his keeping is not as good as Saha. So keep him as backup/T20s.

  • on August 19, 2014, 18:11 GMT

    The worrying thing is the fact that India had a lot of match practice, now that is a continuity of streak of poor performances in NZ, SA and Aus. It is unacceptable to say that Indian batters are inexperienced, problem is skill wise I deem. Moreover, spinners just don't click it was amazing that R Ashwin got a test wicket outside India after August 2012!! Sums up the scenario.

  • John_Mil on August 19, 2014, 17:47 GMT

    I believe India should have had Test specialist as Australia used to do earlier.Specialist like Shewag,Wasim Jaffer,Badrinath,Pujara,Dinesh Karthik,Irfan Pathan,Gambir (Though he did not well in this series could be used) and could be used with other players like Virat Koli (Though he failed in entire series) Rahane,Dhawan,Vijay,Rohit Sharma,Naman Ohja.Dhoni is a Good player and Captain.But in Test I believe some expert can lead the side and Dhoni can be ratained for 20/20 and 50 over match.India should have given a chance some senior players earlier for the test instead of testing the Young team completely.Young team good but this is not the time to experiment.if you want to experiment should be mixed with youth and experienced at least for the test.

  • jam-11 on August 19, 2014, 17:33 GMT

    Bhuvi 6.5,vijay,ishanth,rahane 6,dhoni 5,aron 4, ashwin,binny 3.5,jaddu ,pujara 3,pankaj 2.5,shami 2,dhawan 1.5,kohli 0.5,gambir 0.0

  • mensan on August 19, 2014, 16:50 GMT

    Did kohli and dhawan deserved 2?

  • jo_n on August 19, 2014, 15:16 GMT

    Suresh raina should bat and bowl well for indias sucess in 2015 WC.

  • on August 22, 2014, 9:35 GMT

    Binny is a batting all-rounder. He's played that role in his entire career. Please do not confuse with this Dad, Roger, who was a bowling all-rounder @ the international level.

  • on August 22, 2014, 7:49 GMT

    I disagree with Ashwin. As you said, he bowled well and batted better. Only reason he didnt make more of an impact was because he didnt get a chance.

    I was going to say Gautum should get a 0, but he actually deserves a point since this performance should hopefully mean he will now never play for India ever again.

  • on August 21, 2014, 10:45 GMT

    Pretty harsh on Ashwin I think he was worth at least 6. Added runs a few times when his team were in real trouble and bowled pretty tidily if not very dangerously.

  • on August 20, 2014, 12:32 GMT

    Well said fans.......its time to move on...dhoni should nt be in test team.unlike others dhoni s nt a proper testbatsmen.captaining and wicketkeeping has earned his test place which now has been diminished.Its better dhoni 2 have another worldcup in his hand in Australia for us instead in test team.

  • TRAM on August 19, 2014, 20:22 GMT

    I wouldn't want MSD as a pure batsman in the team. I dont think he is going to field well in any position. So lets bring Saha, the best keeper in India (those who dont know please watch his keeping in videos). Saha has also recently proven as good batsman and scoring fast, if that matters. Nothing wrong in bringing up Sanju Samson, but it would be too early for him and also his keeping is not as good as Saha. So keep him as backup/T20s.

  • on August 19, 2014, 18:11 GMT

    The worrying thing is the fact that India had a lot of match practice, now that is a continuity of streak of poor performances in NZ, SA and Aus. It is unacceptable to say that Indian batters are inexperienced, problem is skill wise I deem. Moreover, spinners just don't click it was amazing that R Ashwin got a test wicket outside India after August 2012!! Sums up the scenario.

  • John_Mil on August 19, 2014, 17:47 GMT

    I believe India should have had Test specialist as Australia used to do earlier.Specialist like Shewag,Wasim Jaffer,Badrinath,Pujara,Dinesh Karthik,Irfan Pathan,Gambir (Though he did not well in this series could be used) and could be used with other players like Virat Koli (Though he failed in entire series) Rahane,Dhawan,Vijay,Rohit Sharma,Naman Ohja.Dhoni is a Good player and Captain.But in Test I believe some expert can lead the side and Dhoni can be ratained for 20/20 and 50 over match.India should have given a chance some senior players earlier for the test instead of testing the Young team completely.Young team good but this is not the time to experiment.if you want to experiment should be mixed with youth and experienced at least for the test.

  • jam-11 on August 19, 2014, 17:33 GMT

    Bhuvi 6.5,vijay,ishanth,rahane 6,dhoni 5,aron 4, ashwin,binny 3.5,jaddu ,pujara 3,pankaj 2.5,shami 2,dhawan 1.5,kohli 0.5,gambir 0.0

  • mensan on August 19, 2014, 16:50 GMT

    Did kohli and dhawan deserved 2?

  • jo_n on August 19, 2014, 15:16 GMT

    Suresh raina should bat and bowl well for indias sucess in 2015 WC.

  • jo_n on August 19, 2014, 15:12 GMT

    Squad For WC 2015

    Sehwag, Dhawan, Kholi, rahane, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni (Wk/Cap), Ashwin, Buvaneshwar, Umesh, and Mohit.

    SubContinent - Rohit, Sanju Samson (Wk), Karn sharma, Jadeja, (Aaron, Shami Kulkarni, Ishant and Praveen Kumar two of these five fast bowlers).

  • adv_nishanth on August 19, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    Rohit Sharma getting 2 marks is ridiculous considering that he got only 1 opportunity. Shikhar Dhawan getting 2 and Cheteshwar Pujara getting 3.5? Are you guys kidding? Pujara was one of the biggest let downs of the series. Ahwin & Jadeja 4.5? Ashwin did bat well at Manchester. But was he selected in the XI as a batsman? Apart from the half century at Lords there was practically no contribution from Jadeja. The catch he dropped at Southampton turned the series in favor of England. Ishant Sharma loses half a mark for getting injured at the wrong time? That is insensible.

    Rest looks fine.

  • InnocentGuy on August 19, 2014, 13:52 GMT

    Guys these scores seriously mean nothing. All it serves to do is summarize the performances of the members of this team relative to other members of the same team. A 3.5 or 5 or 7 really means squat. We all know what happened of the 5 Tests. Everyone is free to make their own analysis of the performances.

  • unmark on August 19, 2014, 13:35 GMT

    Mat Inns Runs HS Ave SR ODIs 30 30 754 91 25.13 72.43

    look this stat(guess who he is) and tell whether this player even can get chance in Bnagladesh team?? But why for this player so much media hype ,aaj tak hype & he is playing for India LOL

  • Speng on August 19, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    England only batted 7 times (mostly because India couldn't score runs) so for Bhuvi to get 19 and Ishant 14 wickets (in 4 innings due to his injury) probably indicates a better score should've been given to each. Going into the series we knew Bhuvi was a good new ball bowler and I think he showed he could be more successful throughout the innings (in English conditions). I would have upped their scores by 1 each.

    None of the rest of bowlers (except Ashwin deserve much) - Jadeja got way too many overs, Shami and Pankaj were not effective (we all like Pankaj because he looks like a likeable geezer but 2@146 is what it is).

    The batting was horrible. Vijay deserves a better score as his 40+ average when his opening partner was always getting out cheap and #3 and 4 were walking wickets shows how important his runs were.

    Selectors should get a 1 and MSD got carried away with "unusual" tactics after the Lords win.

  • BhaskarHajong on August 19, 2014, 13:02 GMT

    Jadeja does not deserve more than a zero, so is kohli

  • Sigismund on August 19, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    How does Gambhir score more than 0? His final innings of the series was genuinely painful to watch - I've never seen the like, not even from a number 11. I honestly wonder if I would have looked any worse against Anderson, and I am a proper villager.

  • siddhartha87 on August 19, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    @Abaa:

    your comment made my day. Surely if Gambhir gets 1 for taking part we should get 0.5 for watching

  • badboyblue on August 19, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    These marks are justified based on their overall performances although I would have gave Bhuvneshnar Kumar 8.5/10 and MS Dhoni 6/10. Bhuvy and Ishant should play county cricket - they will get lots of success here. Kohli and Pujara need to play a season of county cricket (at least) if BCCI allows it otherwise they will get seriously exposed and Australia is only around the corner. Great Indian players like Tendulkar, Dravid, Shastri, Gavaskar, Zaheer Khan, Ganguly and Laxman all had successful stints at county cricket and because they learned the conditions here in England that allowed them to adapt their technique in different conditions - that is a making of a great cricketer IMO

  • on August 19, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    The India marks seem to be judged by about the same criteria as the England ones, so fair enough (even though I can't see why Pujara deserves more than 2). Pretty obvious from these marks that the Indian problem is that the batting line up is actually very poor, and its abilities are inflated by placid pitches. Bowlers did OK (though Yadav should have been there ahead of Pankaj).

  • on August 19, 2014, 11:13 GMT

    3.5 for Binny is bit unfair.. He saved a test match on his debut.. Batted confidently all the time... 2 bad decisions.. poor captaincy... dropped a catch when he is bowling... come on cricinfo... you can be bit more lenient on the debutant.

  • Vilander on August 19, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    Honestly Kholi/Rohit/Gam/Shikar = 0 Pankaj-2 Shami/Binny/Puj/jad/Ash-4 MS/Aaron-5 Ishant/Vijay/Rahane-6 Bhuv- 7 <5 only Kholi/Ash/Puj should be retained.

  • AshwinizXI on August 19, 2014, 9:49 GMT

    You are very liberal when you give any mark(s) to Kohli, Gambhir, Shikhar and Rohit Sharma. I think Pujara has also got more than what his performance warranted. Jadeja should have been docked all his points for that series turning drop.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 19, 2014, 9:28 GMT

    Although rightly so that we Indian fans are really disappointed that our talented batsmen like Pujara & Kohli failed to perform in this series, let us NOT start writing their cricketing obituaries yet for these are the very same batsmen who excelled in SA against the likes of Steyn & Co not that long back. So even though memories are short, it shows they have the talent but both clearly are not the finished article & really need to work on their game against good pacy swing & seam bowling that caused them problems in this series. Maybe they should try to secure a county stint with the support of the BCCI that will help in this process.

  • A.Ak on August 19, 2014, 9:01 GMT

    I love IPL. But there is one player ruined his career for sure from the IPL is Gautam Gambhir. Ever since he took up the KKR captaincy, he looked symbolic in test matches.

  • on August 19, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    Think you are being very generous on Kohli's score - for someone to play all five tests and average 13 with a top score of 39 is horrific as a specialist batsman. Every member of England's team averaged more than him with the bat (except stokes and prior who were dropped after 1st two tests).

  • smudgeon on August 19, 2014, 7:57 GMT

    Ishant loses half a mark because of injury? Fierce decision, Sid.

  • Abaa on August 19, 2014, 6:50 GMT

    If Gambhir gets a 1 for taking part, can I get a 0.5 for watching :-P

  • fiddlerv90 on August 19, 2014, 6:22 GMT

    I'm glad kohli failed soon rather than late . Its boring and disgusting how indian fans praise him as THE BEST batsman in the world without proving his capability in both formats. The best batsman is the one bowlers bowl to and hardly hope for wicket but for dot balls, and that is AB de villiers&sanga.

    People should stop making IPL an india's downfall. Almost all SA&Aus players play IPL and they excell in their national teams too.

    Kohli's form faded in the lankans hands in WC-T20 final in bangladesh. He was the reason RCB failed this year. IPL is doing good to indian domestic players who wish to play alongside their idols.

  • Dimesh on August 19, 2014, 6:14 GMT

    there is Very BIG list after "1 Gautam Gambhir" who scored "0" in this card, starting with IPL.

  • kingcobra85 on August 19, 2014, 5:47 GMT

    Ashwin could not come before Jadeja even in this rating ?

  • Lets-bash-others on August 19, 2014, 5:02 GMT

    Zero should be given to Shami, Dhawan, Kohli and GG as the did almost nothing in this series.. Not even a stunning work in the fielding...

    No contribution for team other than in surrender...

  • Udendra on August 19, 2014, 4:32 GMT

    Glad that Kohli got at least a "2".

  • himanshu.team on August 19, 2014, 4:21 GMT

    I think there should be zero points in this card. The candidates are Dhawan, Gambhir, Rohit Sharma and Kohli. Pankaj Singh, Binny and Shami should only one point for one good innings with the bat. Pujara, Jadeja and Ashwin do not deserve more than 2. In fact, apart from Vijay, Rahane (in two tests) and Dhoni with the bat, no one deserves any where above 4, except Bhuvi who deserves the 7.5 he has got. Only Bhuvi can walk with his head help high, rest everyone disappointed BIG TIME1

  • Sexysteven on August 19, 2014, 4:08 GMT

    Not surprised kumar was dragged down by the rest it's ateam game kumar couldn't do it by himself so of course he was going to run out of energy and fight cos he's seen that the rest of them had no fight to start with when things got hard if you play with them long enough you eventually get like them that's what happened with kumar I could tell he needed arest after the third test India need to sort it out fast cos the tour of Aussie won't be nice if they dont

  • siddhartha87 on August 19, 2014, 3:51 GMT

    To be honest Gambhir is lucky to score 25 runs in the series. His technique has reached a new height of pathlessness. He can't even middle a ball properly. I knew before the series that Gambhir will be a walking wicket but had no idea that he is this worse

  • leleraja on August 19, 2014, 3:49 GMT

    Need to detect one full point from Jadeja for dropping Cook, which was the turning point in the whole series :(

  • on August 19, 2014, 3:16 GMT

    If Gambhir as Batsman gets 1 point for his 25 runs in the series, think about Shami who scored 50 in the first test, still he is at 2 points. Either Gambhir point are wrong or Shami should deserve more.

  • landl47 on August 19, 2014, 3:01 GMT

    The most disappointing performance was that of Kohli, because the expectations of him were so high. Can you imagine what the Indian fans would have said if before the series an England supporter had predicted that Joe Root would score more runs in one innings than Kohli would score in the entire series? Yet not only did that happen, but it happened twice- Root 154* and 149*, Kohli 134 for the series, average 13.40.

    I didn't expect much of Gambhir, who looked finished at test level some time ago and got his place on the back of some IPL innings where they didn't have slip fielders. However, I expected more of Kohli, so he would be the bottom scorer on my rating list.

  • Test_Match_Fan on August 19, 2014, 2:32 GMT

    I have watched my last Indian Test Match.......until they drop Kohli, Gambhir, Dhoni and Jadeja into IPL oblivion, never to bring them back. There is too much talent in India if they pick team based on merit and form in long format games in white clothing. Don't pick players based on performance at color clothing non-cricket entertainment events (ala 20/20 or ODI)

  • on August 19, 2014, 2:27 GMT

    Not good these marks.

    In bowling Ishant and Varun were better than Bhuvi(125 km is not at all a fast bowling, even kumble used to bowl around 115 KM as spinner). You can see last 3 tests how Bhuvi got wickets.

    Bhuvi(Bowling), Vijay, Rahane : were good initially once England read them, they are completely exposed.

    Bottem line: in my opinion below four guys only can get positive points rest all -5 or below. Batting : Dhoni(keeping below average) and Aswin (Bowling below average) Bowling: Ishant, Varun

  • ramz_01 on August 19, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    please some one tellme how Gautam Gambhir gt 1 mark after this kind of a profermence?

  • kitten on August 19, 2014, 1:59 GMT

    This team was pathetic to say the least....they were abysmal, and thoroughly disgraceful in their performances. They should all, with the exception of Rahane, Bhuvi, Dhoni, and Ashwin, be dropped, as a punishment, for the ODIs. India can't fare any worse that what this team have done. It looked like they just did not care for the paying public/fans. What a farce. A very one-sided affair. They made England, who were tottering after the Lords test, look like world beaters, and I sincerely hope, that England don't let these victories go to their heads, and they get complacent for their future matches against stronger and much better opponents. But I feel, England will not go the way India has done after the Lords test. What a shambles...words fail me, and I am sure millions of others must have been bitterly disappointed. I hope they fare better in the ODIs, to give their fans something to cheer about.

  • on August 19, 2014, 1:55 GMT

    so how bad would Kohli have to be to get a 1?

  • Ms.Cricket on August 19, 2014, 1:19 GMT

    Everyone's score minus one will be more acccurate.

  • MinusZero on August 19, 2014, 0:25 GMT

    I picked Ishant as a future number one bowler when I first saw him. If he can find a probing line like McGrath, his height will take him there. India's T20 and spin focus hurts the development of quicks from India.

  • on August 18, 2014, 23:22 GMT

    ho my guys... i guess the board should keep the players to focus on game rather than their girl friends.lol. Virath is agood player for one day but not fit for tests. let forget this total failure and focus on up coming odis.. at least dont lose this.

    and Dhoni s really good as skipper he can not ask the English bat to give more catches to his fielders. if the best fielder dropped he cant do nothing.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 18, 2014, 23:01 GMT

    Is it any surprise that both Bhuvi's batting & bowling deteriorated as the series progressed due to being totally over bowled! Think he also had some long spells where he was bowling 10-11 overs on the trot & not surprisingly, he was carrying an injury towards the end. This is all down to just poor captaincy by MSD & reverting back to just four bowlers in the Test at the Rose Bowl - showing his defensive mindset & handing England the initiative to come back strong in the series.

  • legfinedeep on August 18, 2014, 22:26 GMT

    Most of these scores are too generous. Kohli got 2, for what? Just showing up? Gambhir should be zero.

  • here2rock on August 18, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    Why Binny, Jadeja and Gamhir in the test side, what do the selectors see in them? Why we're not Amit Mishra and Piyush Cawala not picked?

  • __PK on August 18, 2014, 21:55 GMT

    How did Kohli managed to scrape together 2 points from 10 failed innings?

  • wolf777 on August 18, 2014, 21:32 GMT

    Please add following marks...seems like you missed these 'Stars'...

    Captaincy - F Fielding - F Coaching - F

  • D.S.A on August 18, 2014, 21:17 GMT

    I disagree with some of these ratings, and also, the article is poorly written. I think Bhuvneshwar Kumar was a 7, as he became non-existent after the 2nd test, and he was only troubling Robson consistently. Jadeja was definitely not a 4.5. It would be fairer to say he was a 3...non-existent with the ball in all 4 tests, and made only 1 contribution with the bat. Ashwin was a 5, so this does him a bit of a disservice. Binny was a 1.5. Clearly, he was never one of India's best 6/7 batsmen, nor has he ever been one of India's best 5/6 fast bowlers, so he should have never been in the squad. Completely over-rated. Kohli should have been a 1, and benefitted from his ODI record. Naman Ojha should have been selected at 5, and Rahane moving up to 4. Pujara and Rahane are India's two most technically correct batsmen (not said in hindsight), and so they should be in the most important batting spots, 3 and 4, or vice versa.

  • Karthik_Jay_Cricket on August 18, 2014, 21:09 GMT

    Drop all from Team india except Buvi, Ishant , Rahane and N.Ojha and bring in Team A, will see success . with this team no hope for a win outside (doubt even in India).More important throw out coach, he is -ve impact on the whole team. Don't ever think of Virat as captain he has no class and no temper.

  • indianzen on August 18, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    Gambhir, Dhawan deserve a BIG ZERO. but really liberal marks to Kohli, Pujara and Rohit.. Except, Bhuvi, Ishant, Dhoni, Ashwin, Rahane, everyone else are a joke... Pankaj singh, no pace, no swing, no thinking, why was he selected ?

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 18, 2014, 21:00 GMT

    sorry in between ballance and buttler rahane place

  • thriyam_rav on August 18, 2014, 20:29 GMT

    I see so much Vijay bashing already. Highest run scorer with the bat for India and ppl blame him. How biased. Get a life guys. Atleast he played a few good innings. The rest did not even look like doing that !

  • on August 18, 2014, 20:28 GMT

    Our Indian team is over rated for nothing. The biggest curse is our selection process. Both the captain and coach are utter disaster, they have no clue what is the need of the hour. And our captain is talking about 'process' and not worried about results.That guy need to understand that 'process' is what determines the results.Very pathetic mind set. Ofcourse, all the so called super stars in our team all failed.

  • bvnathan on August 18, 2014, 20:18 GMT

    Only the following players in order of performance (not with any marks) made an impact with their contribution. Rest all of them were mere passengers who never felt what their R&R and what they should do as part of the team INDIA. Only to have a mention based on their performance on this tour are Bhuvi, Vijay, Rahane, Dhoni and Ishant. There is no need to talk or discuss about others in any context.

  • cric_lover_1991 on August 18, 2014, 20:04 GMT

    how can you give same scores to VIJAY AND RAHANE. VIJAY was DROPPED on 0 in 1st and 2nd tests B PRIOR and remaining tests flopped rahane was only pure class tech player than those remaining batsmen IN india even he compared with eng players overall he no.3 player in this series as per technic 1.ROOT 2.BALLANCE 3.BUTTLER 4.DHONI 5.VIJAY

  • on August 18, 2014, 19:24 GMT

    dhoni deserved 8 points for his batting...his batting reminded me of Steve Waugh...though his style of captaincy is best suited in Asia...he should give up test captaincy

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 18, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Yup - can't argue with that. Sometimes wondered if India turned up at all...

  • on August 18, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    Except for Shami, the three quickies were good. Ishant used the bounce well, Kumar used the swing well and Aaron was intimidating with his pace. Kumar did well with bat too. How about grading the selection team? They could have experimented with young Turks who are itching for a chance, since the series loss was already a foregone conclusion.

  • on August 18, 2014, 18:24 GMT

    very liberal marking kohli pujara dhawan rohit gambhir hardly contributed anything they should not get anything more than 1

  • ItHappensOnlyInIndia on August 18, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    If points are added for what they did and deducted for what they didn't, then they will all run in to negative big time.

    Actual Report card - Bhuvi, Rahane and Vijay should get 2. Bhuvi - "booohooo we were tired after 5 test series" cry babies. Ishant - learning for Zaheer. Plays 1, sits out 2.

    Rest of them should all get 1 for 'Showing up" because that is all they did. No guts, no fight.

    MS Dhoni - we are not jealous of IPL. If you and your boys can make 10 times more money, good for you and everyone. All we are asking is learn from your experiences, show fight and courage in the field; win or lose, we will support you no matter the result.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 18, 2014, 17:55 GMT

    Think Bhuvi & Ishant are the only two players who did reasonably well, exempt from any criticism & even deserve higher marks. Other than these two players, the bowling, batting & fielding was generally shambolic. Cook has been so lucky after being dropped so many times by the butter fingers of our fielders. MSD's team selection, captaincy & wicket-keeping has generally been abysmal. Even the rejection of DRS worked against us as we came out worse than England in poor umpiring decisions.

  • CricketChat on August 18, 2014, 17:35 GMT

    Gambhir - 1? Wasn't there a ZERO mark? Vijay and Rahane who had at least modest success in the first 2 tests totally stopped after that. I would give them a 4, not 6. I actually think Vijay is a disaster as an opener who kills any momentum at the top of the innings. Dhoni should either play as a batsman or quit tests altogether. In my mind, he is not a wkt keeper at all.

  • dhoni_sachin_fan on August 18, 2014, 17:21 GMT

    I'd give Virat Kohi as well a score of 1/10. The only difference between him and gamhir is that the latter played only 2 tests. Kohli was horrible with the bat and abysmal in the field, dropping catches and misfielding... And what's more..extras scored more than him

  • playitstraight on August 18, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Appropriate marks, although I can't see how Kohli gets a 2 - he failed to make a single half-century, failed to convert starts, half the time didn't know where his off stump was, played some ODI shots, and dropped important catches - of course he's been dropping catches ever since the NZ series. Sad to see, since he used to be one of India's best fielders.

  • cricket-india on August 18, 2014, 17:14 GMT

    kohli deserves only a 1 if dhawan gets a 2; because atleast dhawan did see off the new ball and scored into the 30s in the first 3 tests. coming down at the safe number 4 position, kohli did much worse and never looked like he was even trying to make a fist of it. shami prolly deserves an extra half point for saving trent bridge with kumar.

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  • cricket-india on August 18, 2014, 17:14 GMT

    kohli deserves only a 1 if dhawan gets a 2; because atleast dhawan did see off the new ball and scored into the 30s in the first 3 tests. coming down at the safe number 4 position, kohli did much worse and never looked like he was even trying to make a fist of it. shami prolly deserves an extra half point for saving trent bridge with kumar.

  • playitstraight on August 18, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Appropriate marks, although I can't see how Kohli gets a 2 - he failed to make a single half-century, failed to convert starts, half the time didn't know where his off stump was, played some ODI shots, and dropped important catches - of course he's been dropping catches ever since the NZ series. Sad to see, since he used to be one of India's best fielders.

  • dhoni_sachin_fan on August 18, 2014, 17:21 GMT

    I'd give Virat Kohi as well a score of 1/10. The only difference between him and gamhir is that the latter played only 2 tests. Kohli was horrible with the bat and abysmal in the field, dropping catches and misfielding... And what's more..extras scored more than him

  • CricketChat on August 18, 2014, 17:35 GMT

    Gambhir - 1? Wasn't there a ZERO mark? Vijay and Rahane who had at least modest success in the first 2 tests totally stopped after that. I would give them a 4, not 6. I actually think Vijay is a disaster as an opener who kills any momentum at the top of the innings. Dhoni should either play as a batsman or quit tests altogether. In my mind, he is not a wkt keeper at all.

  • Coolcapricorn on August 18, 2014, 17:55 GMT

    Think Bhuvi & Ishant are the only two players who did reasonably well, exempt from any criticism & even deserve higher marks. Other than these two players, the bowling, batting & fielding was generally shambolic. Cook has been so lucky after being dropped so many times by the butter fingers of our fielders. MSD's team selection, captaincy & wicket-keeping has generally been abysmal. Even the rejection of DRS worked against us as we came out worse than England in poor umpiring decisions.

  • ItHappensOnlyInIndia on August 18, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    If points are added for what they did and deducted for what they didn't, then they will all run in to negative big time.

    Actual Report card - Bhuvi, Rahane and Vijay should get 2. Bhuvi - "booohooo we were tired after 5 test series" cry babies. Ishant - learning for Zaheer. Plays 1, sits out 2.

    Rest of them should all get 1 for 'Showing up" because that is all they did. No guts, no fight.

    MS Dhoni - we are not jealous of IPL. If you and your boys can make 10 times more money, good for you and everyone. All we are asking is learn from your experiences, show fight and courage in the field; win or lose, we will support you no matter the result.

  • on August 18, 2014, 18:24 GMT

    very liberal marking kohli pujara dhawan rohit gambhir hardly contributed anything they should not get anything more than 1

  • on August 18, 2014, 18:37 GMT

    Except for Shami, the three quickies were good. Ishant used the bounce well, Kumar used the swing well and Aaron was intimidating with his pace. Kumar did well with bat too. How about grading the selection team? They could have experimented with young Turks who are itching for a chance, since the series loss was already a foregone conclusion.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on August 18, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    Yup - can't argue with that. Sometimes wondered if India turned up at all...

  • on August 18, 2014, 19:24 GMT

    dhoni deserved 8 points for his batting...his batting reminded me of Steve Waugh...though his style of captaincy is best suited in Asia...he should give up test captaincy